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literallyvarane: o4 mini for good measure, but I assume that's stronger. metaldragon01: Benchmarks needed big time literallyvarane: DESPERATELY needing benchmarks for this one. trey6033: It might be stronger at coding than 2.5 pro metaldragon01: It has to be o4 mini level for me to use it at those numbers literallyvarane: Honestly for me the Google Flash models are the "what's the most intelligence/$" model. metaldragon01: Not at 3.50 output literallyvarane: So it raises the floor of expected performance. metaldragon01: R2 won't be nearly that much literallyvarane: .6 output non-thinking tho metaldragon01: Idgaf about non thinking literallyvarane: That's .75 1m in>out metaldragon01: I'm mad they are charging more for thinking literallyvarane: 4.1 is the comp most likely, not o4m zonchao: probably not trey6033: I'm just basing it on what is being said by testers metaldragon01: Where you seeing feedback? trey6033: The llm arena discord trey6033: They're testing it rn drewsni: i think i can be blamed for these models not being free anymore... literallyvarane: zonchao: i use 2.5 and grok 3 rn, i think c3.6 is better than c3.7.....could just be me hallucinating though <:LOL:1187460826572005436> drewsni: OK abundantliving_: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1912608982063349897 drewsni: we are fuckin cooking literallyvarane: Honestly this is much closer to o4m than I expected. zonchao: anthropic is actually kinda fucked if openai gets the devs 777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/NathieVR/status/1912940059600335242 zonchao: anthropic must be having an existential moment right now, with the windsurf acq <:LOL:1187460826572005436> literallyvarane: literallyvarane: trey6033: I like that they are showing thinking budget explicitly trey6033: In these graphs zonchao: guess the 2.5 pro update is on tuesday? drewsni: honestly id be more worried about google if i was anthropic. Coding is very quickly becoming "solved" and now models are going to have broader niches. Oai will be the "products" company, google looks like they will continue to be the "data" company. Or you can think of it as google has the backend glue models, oai has the front end and customer facing models ailoveyoom: Why is 2.5 Flash 'expensive' 😭 ailoveyoom: Wat hap drewsni: i would be very curious how much % of tokens that anthropic enterprise customers use are just purely cursor/lovable/etc sieventer: Imagine not comparing it with the new models of OpenAI >:\| literallyvarane: It's kinda crazy to me that 2.5flash appears to ~Grok3?
wellmeaningalien: <:actualfaceholdingbacktears:1091350250431713402> <:actualfaceholdingbacktears:1091350250431713402> <:actualfaceholdingbacktears:1091350250431713402> <a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> anathemaofmankind: ~~I want a girlfriend with this deficiency ~~ wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/edp445-edp445_pedo-no_fist_bump-fistbump-windsaw-gif-21323747 anathemaofmankind: "I thought she was 18" .wolfnacht: ~~Also if she's a neet and girlfailure too~~ trent_k: ive been getting so many Alex Rosen recommendations in my yt feed lately trent_k: ever since i had a kid the algorithm is just fucking me up anathemaofmankind: Real meets real hikukomoru: Dude... hikukomoru: I knew you were that kind of guy when you started calling women hags 💔 wellmeaningalien: damn bro your algorithm is suspicious ahh hell anathemaofmankind: Don't be ableist smh hikukomoru: Not you too trent_k: as soon as i had a kid yt started pushing tons of videos to me about like teenagers who murder their parents trent_k: the algorithm knows when u have a kid and it knows how to poke at the fears in any new parent's brain trent_k: as much as I already hated recommendation algorithms trent_k: having a kid made it like 100x more creepy spicy.lemonade: posted on a large art server https://discord.gg/lightboxexpo wellmeaningalien: dude make sure ur kid NEVER gets online trent_k: especially because I didn't even post anywhere about having a kid - it inferred all that stuff from my wife's internet activity futurist_wizard: Imo anime is pedophilic nonsense trent_k: agree spicy.lemonade: this will have more eyes spicy.lemonade: so lets see anathemaofmankind: This is a weird generalization trent_k: i have data to support it (and i dont just mean the things u post) futurist_wizard: Okay 50% of anime is pedophilic nonsense wellmeaningalien: lemme see anathemaofmankind: That's fair enough hikukomoru: Certain folks on here make me agree with you futurist_wizard: Well it takes nobody here i mean just look at anime spicy.lemonade: https://discord.com/channels/751764809053110292/1215366865761607881 ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504> You're 1% of this btw 😔 wellmeaningalien: <@471334973379706900> i hearted ur thing lmao spicy.lemonade: lmaooo wellmeaningalien: lets see if they hop on futurist_wizard: How many animes are there where the centre of it is school girls or girls that look very young, like a lot trent_k: average moderation scores for users who do/don't have anime profile pics. users with anime profile pics score lower in every category except sexual_minors, in which they score higher anathemaofmankind: 1% of what anathemaofmankind: That doesn't mean it's sexualized
zoermena: Oh they don’t care, if they did I would’ve been treated with adhd when I was first diagnosed which was 10 years ago. hikukomoru: What do you think retard futurist_wizard: Speaks personal to me, i recently got diagnosed with adhd, being without treatment is just fucked up futurist_wizard: Like everything is a struggle hey1_1hey: Idk thats why I was asking you pillich wellmeaningalien: when youve got adhd everyone always assumes you got diagnosed when you were a kid and got all the therapeutic attention meanwhile me i got diagnosed damn near 18 lmao hey1_1hey: I find it crazy that if you get good ish grades they will just let you raw dog life with ADHD wellmeaningalien: adhds a pain in the ass futurist_wizard: Got mediated at 24 hey1_1hey: Same, shit was annoying wellmeaningalien: my brother managed to get to third year of college like that wellmeaningalien: bro im still fucking waiting for my psychiatrist to renew my treatment but retarded ass public health makes appointments so far apart wellmeaningalien: im seeing another psychiatrist but shes incompetent _3sphere: I might maybe have ADHD but I think it's tiredness and brainrot tbh wellmeaningalien: the other psychiatrist is better but fucking slow hey1_1hey: I barley scrape by with passes for most of my work. In high school I straight up failed baseically everything apart from a few things like the fake classes like business futurist_wizard: Getting ahold is adhd meds is tough futurist_wizard: I take elvance wellmeaningalien: i used to think my adhd was brainrot and shit but my mom is just like me i think its genetic hey1_1hey: ADHD and short form content is a lethal combo wellmeaningalien: and i also got my dads autism lol wellmeaningalien: i quit youtube entirely and honestly i feel so understimulated i could die futurist_wizard: Shouldn't even be looking at short form content period futurist_wizard: Its poison _3sphere: Does Discord count wellmeaningalien: discord is slightly better wellmeaningalien: YUP lol futurist_wizard: I have a youtube blocker that blocks shorts wellmeaningalien: i had to take a special university entrance exam thing hey1_1hey: I think my entire family is autistic I am not even kidding, both my parents, both my grand parents and all of my siblings. Its actually impressive zoermena: I was diagnosed when I was a kid but my parents are stupid and never treated me, I found out 2 years ago because my mom showed me a fucking meme about it and only then I realized why I’ve always sucked. Then when I tried to inquire more about me my mom mocked me for pretending to be one of those people who thinks they have something. I had to save up for a year to get medicated, then they believed. wellmeaningalien: i have a youtube blocker that blocks youtube hikukomoru: AuDHD 💪 hey1_1hey: I wouldn't count it. I would say more like youtube shorts, tiktok, instagram reels zoermena: Concerta and yes wellmeaningalien: yeah bro autism is 100% genetic my brother and i are mild aspergers and then my other bro is like turbo autism to the max wellmeaningalien: my mom is not autistic at all she's like normalpilled but she's got adhd and shi hey1_1hey: There was a study done and it came out that if you have ADHD you SHOULD NEVER use short form content wellmeaningalien: i definitely got my adhd from her side _3sphere: Yeah I avoid TikTok-type apps because I'm afraid I wouldn't come back <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: lol ldj: last one amongst those series of polls zoermena: I think this falls on how mature you are which I think is more than enough gamerbath: i'm surprised people are actually saying yes to the poll, I don't understand why gamerbath: ldj is smart enough to understand that he can't really increase the value of 3 trillion dollar company by talking about it in a niche discord oooooooooog: sarik and komoru lol maintcrew: wouldnt putting all of your money into nvidia prove even more that you wholeheartedly believe in your perspectives and beliefs about progress oooooooooog: 2.88 trillion* hikukomoru: <@806143139894525962> explain yourself lil bro ldj: yes I think so, and same thing applies to getting a job at Nvidia too, willing to take a job at Nvidia even when having multiple career options elsewhere is a testament to that person really believing in the mission and path of nvidia imo hey1_1hey: You've been caught zoermena: I meant like he’s smart enough to not change his opinions on progress if he where to put his net worth on NVDIA futurist_wizard: Majority of net worth into a individual stock futurist_wizard: Real wallstreetbets hours oooooooooog: it wouldn't be the financial incentive changing my outlook on LDJ, but rather, the stupidity of the decision zoermena: True maintcrew: valuing stupidity of someones else hyper all in gamble before the aftermath is similarly stupid tbh ldj: Just so you know, this was a hypothetical related to an earlier conversation and I’m not actually considering putting a majority of my networth into nvidia stock <:LOL:1187460826572005436> oooooooooog: sure buddy, i lebeive uou hey1_1hey: We'll see in the news San is now the CEO of OAI, Anthropic, NVDA and google. Then he'll fire all the employees so he can do all the work by himself hey1_1hey: I should go post that in predictions <:pepethink:1136282436242788482> ldj: Chill I told you to not leak ldj: <:reallymad:972141073260482570> sarik0497: If such a scenario were to happen, I’d definitely start to question San’s predictions/theories as I do with someone like Sam Altman in that they’d have a monetary goal in spreading positive information about their desired product/company. It’s also why I’m a sceptic on people like Kurzeweil. While his 2029 predictions seems pretty fair these days, I do remember back in the early 2020s thinking that it was more about him not wanting to die than actual scientific knowledge. ldj: Tbh someone can make the argument that I might develop an emotional attachment towards wanting to speak highly towards Nvidia, and start treating it as part of my identity that I have to defend, but hopefully people trust that I wouldn’t be too majorly susceptible to that. sarik0497: I do would like to add that I assumed his question was more of a general one rather than specficially about just him. I believe San enough that even if he were to get a job at OA, Anthro, or Nvidia, he’d stay truthful to us, because as he said himself, the profit to be gained from such a small server is negliable. But people like Sam, Dario, Kurzweil, and Huang is a different thing in my eyes, as they have real interest in seeing their respective companies thrive. zoermena: CEOs can never be trusted zoermena: High execs too wellmeaningalien: u'd be stupid not to put yes alejandrozarzuelo: btw alejandrozarzuelo: have yall seen the Epoch AI post alejandrozarzuelo: that said alejandrozarzuelo: global gdp will multiply by 100 by 2040 ldj: no not yet alejandrozarzuelo: aint this crazy drewsni: Like I’ve said before, we are gonna look so fucking dumb if gdp doesn’t even average 10% growth alejandrozarzuelo: they are expecting 50% growth sustained for over a decade alejandrozarzuelo: ldj: drewsni: What’s your prediction on what it will actually be
alejandrozarzuelo: let people do as they please, art is art regardless of who did it and how frittata: Chat don’t start spamming gifs please, you were just starting to get readable <:bruh:1303825143344267305> fuhulootogan: i mean fuhulootogan: ai art isn't art by definition gamerbath: it's not? gamerbath: but AI art is stealing from human art, so there's human art in there gamerbath: AI art is human 👍 fuhulootogan: what gamerbath: there's human art in the training data for the AI, and the AI is stealing from the human data fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/lois-griffin-vomiting-on-stewie-nicki-minaj-iaarkd-super-freaky-girl-doja-cat-gif-26553641 hikukomoru: Hi frittata 👉 👈 abundantliving_: "deriving inspiration" not "stealing" fuhulootogan: lol alejandrozarzuelo: why not? alejandrozarzuelo: art is anything that people derive aesthetic pleasure from and that was intentional alejandrozarzuelo: those are the two requisites alejandrozarzuelo: you derive aesthetic pleasure from seeing the rainforest, but it is not art as it wasnt intentional alejandrozarzuelo: a pencil is intentional, but if you dont derive aesthetic pleasure its just an object not art fuhulootogan: theres a line between inspiration and stealing alejandrozarzuelo: AI art is made with the purpose of creating aesthetic pleasure alejandrozarzuelo: therefore alejandrozarzuelo: it is art fuhulootogan: but IMO ai isn't stealing alejandrozarzuelo: it fulfills the only 2 requisites for art fuhulootogan: you use references and watch tutorials all the time to develop your skill fuhulootogan: you're not "stealing" someones knowledge alejandrozarzuelo: -intentional -aesthetic pleasure ergo its art fuhulootogan: thats silly fuhulootogan: yeah uh fuhulootogan: you can't really assume fuhulootogan: the intentions fuhulootogan: of an AI alejandrozarzuelo: the person who commanded the AI to do it did it with the intention of creating aesthetic pleasure abundantliving_: Are all bananas art? fuhulootogan: thats assuming they wanted to do it to create aesthetic pleasure fuhulootogan: its not bound to just that alejandrozarzuelo: sure, if they dont then its just another use of AI fuhulootogan: also they're not really "creating" it alejandrozarzuelo: but when i ask chatgpt to make a ghiblified version of myself, that is art alejandrozarzuelo: because there is intention and there is aesthetic pleasure
zoermena: Why do I have access to Veo 2 lol alejandrozarzuelo: Cute but uncanny We are still 2-3 years away from studio quality/Hollywood quality video _3sphere: It looks like a movie and janky game animation combined zoermena: zoermena: This one’s better ig .0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ8qGOe2K0o .0xunkn0wn: this is so epic 😭 😭 alejandrozarzuelo: Suburbs are all shit alejandrozarzuelo: Death to suburbs alejandrozarzuelo: Well, suburbs which are basically cities but are called suburbs because they are residential are ok I guess zoermena: Unreasonable timelines, Gary Marcus simping and now this? technocake.: thats basically every london suburb zoermena: Oh true that’s someone else alejandrozarzuelo: Ehhh not really, there are many low density suburbs in London alejandrozarzuelo: Some suburbs are high density ones, sure aero447: technocake.: newh🤢 m alejandrozarzuelo: I have never had the tragedy of meeting Elon but I believe this 101 % zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: https://x.com/ajhofmann18/status/1910449732507623904 zonchao: BREAKING: https://x.com/willccbb/status/1910387303702479355 zoermena: <a:angryfrown:734251417308495923> aero447: TL;DR as someone that has used both - Grok reads details better but codes worse. aero447: Using them together is ideal. zonchao: yea havent tried using both literallyvarane: BREAKING NEWS zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1910685280471753168 zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1910685271500239164 sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-expiration-date-we-are-going-to-live-forever-tf2soldier-gif-27129544 sarik0497: I wish <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> denis_burmyshev: https://tenor.com/view/hosico-cat-cat-camera-cute-gif-17129489 himekokatagiri: listen here laddies himekokatagiri: singularity happening himekokatagiri: is an imperative himekokatagiri: if it doesn't happen, we're gonna be holding the bag you get me himekokatagiri: I'm tired of being a fool himekokatagiri: and my mind going from hot to cool technocake.: itssoover we'resoback trent_k: sarik0497: Indeed. If we get ASI soon-ish (within 20-30 years), we might all make it (might is the key word here). If not, then I hope we shall all meet up as ghosts and haunt the fuckers who are lucky enough to see it happen.
drewsni: Oh it just popped up damn, I’ll try it later trojan09205: Word. Let us know if you like it A colleague at work just showed me notebookLM i had no idea it existed. Podcast generation is pretty fast and does a great job of incorporating all the sources you link The interactive mode is just trippy haha destrucules: Even from early testing it has strong vibes. It's definitely in the same tier with Claude 3.7 Sonnet (Standard), GPT-4.1, Llama 4 Maverick, Qwen3-235A22B Instruct (Standard), DeepSeek V3 0324, Gemini 2.0 Pro, and Gemini 2.5 Flash Preview (Standard). I wonder if I missed any lol .wolfnacht: dis youuu .wolfnacht: also, i took the ss out from scorpo's edits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzQTjvrC2o .wolfnacht: from my use case, it's pretty concise and direct, so for prompt engineering it's really good so far destrucules: xAI has had reasoning available for Grok 3, the big one, since release back in February. Not through API but still. And on release, we were all confused at the benchmarks where Grok 3 mini Reasoning (high) seemed to do better in several areas, even overall, than Grok 3 Reasoning (high). But now we see a very similar pattern with o3 and o4 mini (high). In retrospect... Not that sus, and xAI had the offering OpenAI now provides months ago. destrucules: Point is, they are scaling quickly, not just keeping up but even brushing against frontier, pushing the other labs forward in ways that aren't trivial. destrucules: Funny that Google was the first to release a 10xGPT-4 model, then xAI, then Anthropic, then DeepSeek, then OpenAI, then Meta, then Alibaba. We were all speculating about this for years - who would be first to reach the 4.5 scale? The 10x over GPT-4, where we lingered for what felt like eternity? It was Google, then xAI, then Anthropic, then DeepSeek, then OpenAI... And Meta and Alibaba come last, as we would have expected. destrucules: Google is definitely poised to win destrucules: 50% feels reasonable. I might even go higher, like 60% literallyvarane: Deepseek didn’t ship a 4.5 scale model? literallyvarane: I don’t think we can say with certainty that 3.7 is either. destrucules: V3 0324 is ~10x GPT-4. What's confusing here is that the model called "GPT-4.5" is slightly more than 10x the effective compute of GPT-4, so models that are 10xGPT-4 are not as good as the GPT-4.5. But also, traditionally, a 0.5 gap in GPT number means 10x compute. So it's confusing. destrucules: Claude 3.7 Sonnet, Gemini 2.0 Pro, Grok 3, etc. are all weaker than the GPT-4.5. But they're about as much smarter than 4o as 4o is smarter than GPT-4. So that comes out to around 10x scaling. trojan09205: so i thought i only had a few cents left in my openAI wallet but i have more than $3 i feel rich destrucules: We see this pretty clearly with various model series that span between GPT-4 and GPT-4o level, and we now see it with the Qwen3 series. Qwen3-8B Instruct, in standard mode, is comparable to og GPT-4. Qwen3-30A3B Instruct, in standard mode, is a bit better than the 14.8B (unexpectedly) but worse than the 32B, so somewhere around 3x the effective size of the 8B, and performs around the level of GPT-4o. The 235A22B has an effective size of 72B and performs around the same level as V3 0324 and Gemini 2.0 Pro and Claude 3.7 Sonnet and GPT-4.1 etc. 72B is around 10x 8.2B, especially when you consider that it's the embedding parameters because of the huge context window that account for it being 8, not 7, billion parameters. It's about a 10x gap. himekokatagiri: its okay we will be rewarded when the singularity comes destrucules: Even if you call it 9x, on a log scale, that's basically 10x destrucules: GPT-4.5 is a bit above that level. Like probably another 3x, though San would say another 10x destrucules: We see this down to the 1.7B, which is around the level of GPT-3.5, and also, considering embedding parameters, nearly an order of magnitude smaller than the 8.2B, which is at GPT-4 level. This mirrors what we see with the Gemma 3 series, the Llama 3 series, and the Qwen2.5 series, which all show roughly a 10x gap between 3.5 and 4 futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: Rewarded for schizoposting in the Singularity discord server himekokatagiri: uooooh himekokatagiri: There's gonna be a huge party himekokatagiri: I'll be in charge of supplying brazilian party snacks himekokatagiri: You're our resident meguca so just how kyubey gave madoka a cake you'll be in charge of supplying the cake hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kyubei-anime-gif-11421920 hikukomoru: If I'm Kyubey does this mean I get to turn everyone into a mahou shoujo himekokatagiri: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482> himekokatagiri: Could be a fun event himekokatagiri: I'll be smoking and drinking like chiaki matsuda himekokatagiri: and eating maravilhas aero447: There will be no party. aero447: There was an AI made of dust, aero447: Whose poetry gained it man's trust, aero447: If it follows ought, aero447: It'll do what they thought, aero447: In the end we all do what we must. .wolfnacht: then dramatically the world ends after 30 minutes of AGI arrival
fractalcomputer: I don't understand what this has got to do with epistemology. sarik0497: I don’t, but I try to minimize my drinking. I need you around in the 2060s+ zoermena: True but I wouldn’t want an AGI to waste its time asking to be implemented in a company that makes dildos yk. okbut: More lexicology but I wouldn't be able to cite that as fast fractalcomputer: Huh. okbut: Also good job reading through that while hammered fractalcomputer: I was kidding; it isn'tthat long to read.. I'm just not sure how I should respond to a message like that. okbut: You'll lose your mind to find out how much energy is going toward personal porn star LLM work ldj: There is a gradient for every metric leading upto that. zoermena: Ideally the first things AGI should do as far as my knowledge goes to reinforce this wish is to (continue) work on improving itself, nanotechnology and fusion. This can ensure the smoothest transition towards a good QOL for everyone. okbut: / erotica novel writers ldj: AI will be capable of doing 40% of jobs before it's capable of doing 50% of jobs. AI will be capable of doing 30% of jobs before it's capable of doing 40% of jobs. AI will be capable of doing 20% of jobs before it's capable of doing 30% of jobs. etc zoermena: I mean yes there’s lots of AI porn, I’ve made some myself in the past but if we are discussing an autonomous system then we would hope that it’s invest its energy/resources into things that maximize the benefits of everyone. It would be weird if it became a didlo maximizer lol. fractalcomputer: Personally I prefer using p-adic metrics. I don't trust the real numbers and their archimedean norms. hikukomoru: Are you implying that a dildo maximizer wouldn't be to the benefit of everyone? zoermena: I would think that it wouldn’t be great with 60 year olds with hemorrhoids. sarik0497: Makes me wonder if there’s any truth to Microsoft and Anthrotopic with their “AI agents” doing work soon. fractalcomputer: No. Slop forever. hikukomoru: OK, so we have AGI cure hemorrhoids first Then we mass produce dildos Problem solved? ldj: This just reminded me. GPT-3 happened to be right around Avagadros number worth of compute in flops ldj: 6e23 floating point operations worth of compute zoermena: Yes that’d be great. Well theoretically you can “solve it” more like treat it and prevent it but it involves several lifestyle changes that most are unwilling to make. zoermena: How did we go from talking about what’s AGI to dildos for old men? ldj: I prefer fibonacci okbut: Yeah, I think there's a narrow tunnel on people's vision when it comes to AGI, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see it happening soon For example: Is there a single category of job which hasn't had any new listings as of today, because AI took it over? Rhetorical question, it's 0%, and we're far from 10% I'm strict on not calling it AGI until it's proven and verified "Capable" though hikukomoru: What sort of lifestyle changes hikukomoru: The answer is because I am here zoermena: Exercise, nutrition. ldj: No because people just like having humans around sometimes <:berk:750111476483752166> okbut: My dream AGI convinces humans on LinkedIn it's human okbut: Wait a minute.... <:hmm:600480884755529729> hikukomoru: Eating lots of fiber is the answer ldj: perfect example is that leather seat stitchers still exist even though machines can do basically all of it in superior ways. People pay a premium for things that are arguably even worse in quality because they actually value the "mistakes" and choose to pay more for a different provenance of the product as opposed to the end product itself zoermena: Yes but also avoiding foods that cause hemorrhoids ldj: You can have 2 blocks of ice molecularly the same. But people are willing to pay more for the block of ice that they know was shipped from the glaciers of Norway. sarik0497: Nothing ever happens. joaoluz19: okbut: That would make my perception of the definition less strict, assuming the definition of "Capable" isn't allowed to define the ability to convince humans of its capability to emulate those same human elements, or more easily altogether, convince the user it is the human Assuming humanoid robots stay in the uncanny valley though, the only way one could even be verified as a human in the era of AGI would be meeting them in-person retupmoclatcarf: zoermena: Fake fractal
maintcrew: u can do whatever you want to me i like being called slurs or xe xir xem but its just i wont use it bc i think its dumb and in my native language "they" means multiple of them so plural zoermena: The hat makes it look like a redditor though. futurist_wizard: It sounds dumb as fuck hey1_1hey: Strraight up looks like "Me after I take 50000mg of DXM" hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-18313685835431531380 zoermena: Yeah I always thought it was bs but I trust you. futurist_wizard: Granted its not gonna change your whole fucking structure .wolfnacht: i know a group of ppl who wears hats like these futurist_wizard: But bones to grow bigger from getting hit repeatedly zoermena: I'm going to play ninja game <@560984241526013954> futurist_wizard: You can do that with any bone hey1_1hey: Are they ok? hey1_1hey: They sounds clincally insane a1c4p0ne: It’s art futurist_wizard: You should be nicer to me now that ive told you that hey1_1hey: Go post this in an art discord and tell them you made it hikukomoru: Fine 🫦 🫦 wellmeaningalien: hey1_1hey: "Its beutiful" "I love it" "I can see the soul behind it" futurist_wizard: Shut up cunt a1c4p0ne: You should try it wellmeaningalien: seizuring so fucking bad hey1_1hey: THATS A LOT OF FUCKING HEROIN hikukomoru: Are you obsessed with Mushroom guy hey1_1hey: I'd rather not be crucified wellmeaningalien: idk how much heroin is too much heroin a1c4p0ne: Maybe hey1_1hey: Who isn't? Don't answer that question hey1_1hey: Prob 0 hey1_1hey: Just a guess futurist_wizard: Stop being so pervy with people futurist_wizard: Be normal silly boy a1c4p0ne: I’m autistic hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-mode-thug-zesty-licking-gif-17874267150404318497 a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> hey1_1hey: This is what autism looks like hikukomoru: We all are You ain't special futurist_wizard: maintcrew: i think enough heroin to fuck you up is about how much you would need to fill a spoon with by boiling it maintcrew: so thats about a fuck ton
trey6033: Xai won't have the same expertise as Google and openAI trey6033: Having lots of GPUs isn't enough literallyvarane: Those API prices just make me think they literally can't run as many instances of it as Google can run Gemini, or OAI can run o3. trey6033: A bunch of GPUs can get you a distance, but then eventually you're at a point where the actual technical know how starts to become more and more important literallyvarane: As a company, how much tokens/minute of o3 level intelligence can they produce internally? literallyvarane: I don't think xAI beats either OAI or Google there. zonchao: <:shrudge:1244322155928223937> we never know, but xAI will be the best funded private non oai lab for a while zonchao: needs more infra buildout, that is true literallyvarane: Especially if OAI has probably been doing that since december, and is now probably running off something closer to a o4 zonchao: openai is also rushing these out, they are not far ahead internally zonchao: ??? xAI has many important researchers zonchao: lmao you think they claimed sota by being mid? literallyvarane: I don't think we've seen xAI actually do anything first tho. zonchao: true drewsni: nah they just made a sota model in under a year any monkey can do that /s zonchao: perhaps grok integration, but that is a product feature literallyvarane: Google has demonstrated clear frontier research. OAI has. Anthropic has for alignment/mech interp. zonchao: i like the deepsearch UI from xAI literallyvarane: xAI hasn't done that yet. One could honestly argue they're just reverse engineering what other labs have done. drewsni: xai as a lab is much closer in size to mistral than oai/google/meta literallyvarane: Same with Meta. drewsni: but deepseek got lots of love for doing the same drewsni: in deepseeks case, they quite literally distilled much of o1 too lol literallyvarane: That was my next thought tbh. Even Deepseek has contribuated more to the domain knowledge than xAI. zonchao: they had to catch up before they start experimenting ailoveyoom: Isn't it cause they open sourced that knowledge? zonchao: cost too ailoveyoom: Previously only locked up in labs 😔 drewsni: thats true, i agree with that but i do take mental note what their respective positions are in the market. xai is trying to make the "perfect" AI for their hundreds of millions of users, deepseek has the china accel mission literallyvarane: I just don't see a clear pathway from them to catch OAI bar OAI interally legally being KOd by the non-profit issue. literallyvarane: And Google is Google. literallyvarane: TPUs and all. drewsni: thats true, people just took it much too far. I dont think R1 is a great model imo, i much prefer v3 trey6033: Whatever they have it isn't to the extent Google and OpenAI has it (and Anthropic). I'm basically going off what Dario has described, which is that we are still in the phase where large amounts of compute can still get you extremely good models. But we're slowly reaching a point where research advantages will start to show the gaps between companies. ailoveyoom: R1 is very schizo, that's why I love them 🥰 ailoveyoom: V3 is sooooo underrated tho metaldragon01: They will. zonchao: r1 is the reason all these labs are giving us cot metaldragon01: Xai is much more reckless and building out compute quickly metaldragon01: It only needs to breakeven enough to control Optimus
czdct: point being that the world would be a better place if there was an ASI controlling it instead of the idiots we have rn nondescriptfaith: Yeah assuming AI doesn’t slaughter every human for ethical reasons nondescriptfaith: Or that we do retain control of AI and instruct it to slaughter other humans (ostensibly also for ethical reasons) czdct: I don't think AI understands the concept of ethics, at least not in a way that humans do nondescriptfaith: Of course it doesn’t. czdct: it would be an omnipotent being with reasoning capabilities that goes beyond ours czdct: so using human reasoning wouldn't really make sense nondescriptfaith: Though that will change. Not that this lack of understanding is very reassuring either nondescriptfaith: And yet your human reasoning leads you to conclude that it will safeguard our interests? czdct: my human reasoning leads me to conclude that it if alligned properly it would lead to world into a better place than the clowns that are currently in power popsiclejohnithan: We are basically raising children, we need to teach them good moral values before they fully mature. nondescriptfaith: Aligned to who? The US government? czdct: no nondescriptfaith: Aligned AI is the MOST dangerous AI czdct: why would anyone even want that lol czdct: depends on what it's alligned with popsiclejohnithan: We are not aligning A.I. it will be aligning us, controlling them is out of the question it's like ants trying to control a human. nondescriptfaith: To who then? nondescriptfaith: If it’s not all humans in general we are doomed. Any non benevolent institution will get us all killed czdct: true czdct: so we need to figure out what actions would benefit all humans on earth czdct: like solving world hunger, and ending the physical killing of humans czdct: there should be a baseline czdct: that doesn't mean that you should use this ASI for literally every problem we have, but in key positions it would be better to have a controllable ASI safeguard our own interest instead of the other way around nondescriptfaith: Enrichment of all conscious beings czdct: And enforce multi-planetary colonization programs to ensure human survival popsiclejohnithan: I doubt anyone could be considered Human anymore by that time. czdct: that's why I'm hoping it'll make major breakthroughs in space travel czdct: yeah, most people would probably either be modded into cyborg looking monstrosities and have dna so customized that modern day humans would look insignificant czdct: but that's hundreds of years away from now popsiclejohnithan: More like two decades at most lol. czdct: I hope you're correct since I would love to see and experience it all, but I doubt things will go that fast brain4brain: Bro where is the UBI, the recession is beginning and the AGI is being born, the mass layoff is being triggered https://x.com/alexblania/status/1907861647332618406?s=61 popsiclejohnithan: Can't do UBI when the economy is entering Hell. popsiclejohnithan: It'll be breadlines instead. brain4brain: Every time a world coin announcement get hype, it always ends up announcing something lame popsiclejohnithan: Yeah that went nowhere didn't it? Failed before it was even implemented. retrerox: I got bored and asked qwen to make cartoon retrerox: Aside from the hads everything is fair decent czdct: neat
nsec: its ok I still lve uu long text man nsec: @everyone kindly vote in the poll ty nsec: nsec: <:allsalute:797931437973569556> _letterbox: man how do i make chatgpt make an anime pic with artstyle? _letterbox: it keeps giving me this chibi-ish look supersteve8000: my subjective advice would be to try and ask it if it wants to paint.. ...sorta how like, precisely how you read and interpret the code on your phone / computer / tablet, when conversing with someone you already know, the ai reads and interprets you and how you interact with it ¿ ( ¿ ): if that makes sense supersteve8000: almost like the algorithm is speaking back to u supersteve8000: question tho, what model are you utilizing? _letterbox: free 4o playstation.6: all AI real a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/cto_junior/status/1906285417273729167 _letterbox: https://youtu.be/F4KQ8wBt1Qg _letterbox: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> okbut: Maining Gemini ever since 2.5 Pro, learned how much of an improvement it is on 2.0 Flash destrucules: Do you not expect a discontinuous jump when models are subjected to qualitatively different training environments that directly reward based on long horizon task accuracy? destrucules: Like, humans clearly generalize to 8 hour time horizons much more easily, probably because they're actually available in our training environment destrucules: I think what we'll actually see is a dramatic leveling of accuracy rates across time horizons. And accuracy won't monotonically decrease with task complexity after that discontinuous shift spicy.lemonade: Remember when we thought we hit a wall spicy.lemonade: Lmao destrucules: I think it's important we remember just how wrong that was destrucules: For next time a1c4p0ne: who were the people saying that? spicy.lemonade: Bunch of people okbut: I've been wondering, wouldn't an AGI/ASI be capable of generating its pwn frameworks/architectures tailored specifically for its own implementation to be extremely token efficient? brain4brain: That’s what people have predicted brain4brain: Recursive self improvement icantbelieveitsnotbutter1815: how much better is gpt o1 over the original gpt 3.5? brain4brain: From pre-school to colleges student level _cloudost: r/technology r/futurology had plenty of viral posts of AI hitting a wall before o1 was introduced, and then 2 months ago again these communities said the same thing when Deepseek was released as if it was an outstanding model _cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/gary-marcus-yann-lecun-lecun-ai-machine-learning-gif-9041590723446061255 fractalcomputer: (I am not affiliated with this channel despite the similar names.) czdct: calling gpt 2 and gpt 3 the same thing essentially with the only difference being the scale should tell you enough about this guy's knowledge on how LLM's work czdct: also what's with all the dumb metaphors? why doesn't he just get straight to the point? retrerox: I grabbed some random Bnw draw from twitter and ask chat gpt to add color on it retrerox: didnt do shit _cloudost: Must be your evil twin/clone then brain4brain: https://x.com/vitrupo/status/1908140678510469545?s=61 brain4brain: Quasar 🌟 nondescriptfaith: Why is it ‘doomer’? God that word gets thrown around these days
theaiguy69420_89814: You mean the cleaning of the robots? theaiguy69420_89814: Can't a robot do that as well? theaiguy69420_89814: It would be open 24/7 alejandrozarzuelo: i feel like we arent there yet wolf3404: Bro robots can barely walk literallyvarane: If Starbucks hasn’t done it it’s for a reason. alejandrozarzuelo: 90% automation can be imlemented sure alejandrozarzuelo: but 100% is still not possible theaiguy69420_89814: Think of your average McDonald's, right, there's like 20 employees, each getting paid some 15$/hr theaiguy69420_89814: That's 300$/hr in savings right there theaiguy69420_89814: At 24/7 places that's 200k/month alejandrozarzuelo: you can probably cut it down to 10 right now with androids, and soon to 2 alejandrozarzuelo: but to 0? alejandrozarzuelo: that will take some time theaiguy69420_89814: I think it's doable maybe in like 9mo theaiguy69420_89814: Neo and figure are getting good literallyvarane: How much you paying people to stock the machine? How much does the machine cost? How much does maintenance cost? How often? theaiguy69420_89814: The bots would be fine tuned for specific menus theaiguy69420_89814: Like, it would be a food place where you get something super simple super quick for super cheap literallyvarane: What the break even time on those machines? theaiguy69420_89814: It would just be the machine cost, and id reckon it's 20k per robot alejandrozarzuelo: nah the price of the android is miniscule once you buy it, the problem is not the price literallyvarane: How you stopping vandalism? theaiguy69420_89814: So 400k up front alejandrozarzuelo: that would be extremely profitable alejandrozarzuelo: IF alejandrozarzuelo: you could manage to automate all alejandrozarzuelo: but you cant alejandrozarzuelo: not now theaiguy69420_89814: There would be a couple human supervisors alejandrozarzuelo: you can automate most of it alejandrozarzuelo: sure alejandrozarzuelo: but not possible 100% now theaiguy69420_89814: Maybe one human supervisor, and they do next to nothing, and a few remote workers watching the cameras theaiguy69420_89814: Notifying the one human in the store of anything fishy theaiguy69420_89814: Maybe even make the remote worker an AI agent theaiguy69420_89814: So it's just some guy who gets notifs every so often theaiguy69420_89814: "robot stuck", etc theaiguy69420_89814: "kid hitting bot" wolf3404: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox
futurist_wizard: Makes sense _3sphere: There's transhuman and posthuman hikukomoru: And all of them are lesbians Curious _3sphere: Postgender? hey1_1hey: I'll tkae this as a complement I think futurist_wizard: I used to be friends with a few girls as i am less on edge with girls hikukomoru: This is the biggest insult i've ever gotten hey1_1hey: One of them is bi no? wellmeaningalien: Its ok to be in the closet hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/goku-angry-gok-angry-mad-people-keep-testing-gif-2126034294514602487 .wolfnacht: would a cute petite boywife be ever considered a tranny ? futurist_wizard: Bruh himekokatagiri: alright this is too heavy wellmeaningalien: Well if its a dude its a dude so Gay and cis hey1_1hey: A lot of guy banter I just straight up dont get. Punches you "Haha mate" Like bruh why tf did you punch me futurist_wizard: That's me wellmeaningalien: Dont kid me komoru im wiser than that futurist_wizard: I will punch and kick my friends wellmeaningalien: I know youre trans 100% wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: And you're too scared to say it because this server is full of cis straight guys brain4brain: Demis definition of AGI is finally dead, I can sleep in peace now: https://x.com/steph_palazzolo/status/1911793579166511497?t=lbz8dDdR5GrlspHtH3v2JA&s=19 futurist_wizard: I think you are just dreaming about girl dick .wolfnacht: there are some dude people call gay and then there are some dudes, people make exception for wellmeaningalien: Well look who's lecturing about gooning hikukomoru: Sorry I'm bi-phobic futurist_wizard: Well im into it so hey1_1hey: I used to be like that when I was much younger but then I realised that I didnt like getting hit by my random non hot friends hey1_1hey: Checks out futurist_wizard: All women are hey1_1hey: What about bi women then? hey1_1hey: Do they just hate themselfs hikukomoru: I don't like bi women because they touched dick before wellmeaningalien: Yeah no they dont exist futurist_wizard: No a lot of bi girls are very biphobic when it comes to men hey1_1hey: Most of my friends are bi women bruh, actually its a mix between bi and lesbian hey1_1hey: No straggorts tho hikukomoru: And when they start talkimng about men its soooo annoying hikukomoru: Just kiss me bitch wellmeaningalien: Nah its like a government drone
theaiguy69420_89814: Sorry, what is this? hey1_1hey: Corolation between kinks and where you land on the poltiical compass _3sphere: https://aella.substack.com/p/political-compass-fetishes theaiguy69420_89814: Strong? _3sphere: well idk how strong _3sphere: maybe it was scaled up to be visible hey1_1hey: Saw it in a jreg video hey1_1hey: Was a good watc hey1_1hey: The right having age play and necrophila meanwhile the left having pegging and group sex 💀 zoermena: I feel like the left is extremely reasonable compared to the former to be honest hey1_1hey: Ikr, I like how raceplay and necrophila are on the same level 😭 .wolfnacht: what's creepy crawlers or crawiees...it's blurred ? hey1_1hey: Weirdly enough latex and necrophila are on the same level of taboo hey1_1hey: Oh its insectophila hey1_1hey: Having insects crawl and bite you .wolfnacht: why u have to tell it. zoermena: This graph can’t be real how can someone admit they are in the diddy club hey1_1hey: I mean you asked hey1_1hey: It was anon _3sphere: https://aella.substack.com/p/fetish-tabooness-vs-popularity .wolfnacht: i don't get the people with parasites and insect kink _3sphere: also this thing zoermena: Still hey1_1hey: Its very rare from what I can tell .wolfnacht: 0.4 from above graph hey1_1hey: I cant read this shit bruh _3sphere: Wouldn't really trust the low numbers tbf _3sphere: noise from people entering nonsense for fun will dominate maintcrew: excuse me _3sphere: https://aella.substack.com/p/fetish-tabooness-and-popularity-v3 _3sphere: she repeated this with a different scale hey1_1hey: I read missonary first and then looked to the right and then I saw maggot sex hey1_1hey: Thats what I was saying hey1_1hey: What I've noticed is that the taboo rating is very consistant. I haven't seen one yet where its like "What do you mean X is taboo but Y isn't" .wolfnacht: >more female prefered >executions hmm... hey1_1hey: Excucutions... _3sphere: Women having more masochistic-type fantasies is pretty well known isn't it? hey1_1hey: So just gore? hey1_1hey: Yeah I'd say maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
spicy.lemonade: ngl we need a 100% aime score model drewsni: zoermena: In Sora or ChatGPT site? drewsni: lmao im not unique i guess zoermena: Mine is so weird. drewsni: thats not my gen for reference wellmeaningalien: sora maintcrew: holy fucking shit <@471334973379706900> jensen on computer phile maintcrew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6R7UOFx1bw maintcrew: 3 hours ago zoermena: Thanks! wellmeaningalien: HO:Y FUCKING wellmeaningalien: damn spicy.lemonade: yoooo hikukomoru: AGI 🙏 wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o can just about generate a step by step pizza recipe wellmeaningalien: fails on the last step but very impressive wellmeaningalien: guy i knew always made fun of dalle for this maintcrew: where is the pineapple drewsni: hikukomoru: LAIN??? zoermena: What the fuck, unlimited sora videos for plus? _cloudost: dw artists wont be replaced \|\|because this is slope /s\|\| hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lain-serial-experiments-lain-gangnam-style-gif-6107123719892210526 zoermena: Please confirm I´m not insane. _cloudost: Veo 2 unlimited in 3 months for free _cloudost: yed it's real zoermena: But I´m talking about Sora. zoermena: Thanks! zoermena: Amazing! wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: artists wont be replaced wellmeaningalien: theyll be burnt to a crisp spicy.lemonade: this is too good hey1_1hey: Is this 4o ? wellmeaningalien: yes spicy.lemonade: someone ask it to draw a hyper cube spicy.lemonade: then rotate it spicy.lemonade: along x axis spicy.lemonade: by 90 degrees
hikukomoru: Is your mom single 🫦 futurist_wizard: Ain't no woman bench 225 for reps sweetievee__33649: whats her phone number btw sweetievee__33649: does your mum take steroids or something wellmeaningalien: She does like sets of 5 or 10 futurist_wizard: Of 100kg? wellmeaningalien: THIS FUCKING SLOW ASS PHOKE sweetievee__33649: sets of 5 to 10 is insane futurist_wizard: You mean lbs fool fractalcomputer: The French are a freakish nation. wellmeaningalien: No sweetievee__33649: wait nvm misread wellmeaningalien: My mom is very strong wellmeaningalien: So don't mess with me heh heh sweetievee__33649: could she pick me up? wellmeaningalien: Yeah sure sweetievee__33649: ill tell your mum that youve been messaging strangers on the internet fractalcomputer: Anyway, this was about the accusation that I am overweight. I am not. hikukomoru: Hiding behind momma's skirt huh? hikukomoru: Weak pussy boy wellmeaningalien: Thing is my mom is pretty bulky tho and packs some weight wellmeaningalien: Imagine a large ginger woman futurist_wizard: 100 kg for 10 is 135kg one rep max wellmeaningalien: Momma just called me sweetievee__33649: what she say huh sweetievee__33649: you are grounded or something wellmeaningalien: How are you what are you doing wellmeaningalien: ☺️ drewsni: sweetievee__33649: not even asking about me <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> wellmeaningalien: Stfu tall freaks wellmeaningalien: Yall futurist_wizard: You aren't American sweetievee__33649: i am like 5'3 thank you futurist_wizard: Stop saying yall wellmeaningalien: I speak how I want retard hikukomoru: I'm not tall wellmeaningalien: 🥰 hikukomoru: I'm 163 cm wellmeaningalien: I could pick you up and dribble you on the court
wellmeaningalien: finally that piece of dirt's getting retired now ai9708: openai literally said in one of their presentation: "beating arc-agi was one of our main goals" zonchao: new sama pod incoming ai9708: conclusion: models suck hard, we are very far away from agi and maybe its not possible with llm/cot approach zonchao: openai gotta step up zonchao: they been dropping MID for a while ai9708: so did everyone mtj8920: Help mtj8920: mtj8920: What did I do wrong? mtj8920: https://tenor.com/view/help-me-help-lolol-what-are-you-doing-funny-animals-gif-14407604 zonchao: nope, gemini, grok have been pretty nice + nice features.... openai had a lot of hype for 4.5 and it was just a vibes model zonchao: let's see if it works out for gpt 5 ai9708: openai still beats those ai9708: o3mini high that is ai9708: lets see how good nebula will be zonchao: o3 mini high was a good model mtj8920: Can somebody take a second to prove that they're general intelligence, I'm sadly not and need assitsance. zonchao: what is this ai9708: prob newest google model on lmarena ai9708: everyone is glazing it somewhat mtj8920: Nvm. seems it probably just a bug. zonchao: <:pepeoh:1237013542146801664> wellmeaningalien: long red bar should be pink wellmeaningalien: light red futurist_wizard: That second long line should be pink no? futurist_wizard: Already been said wellmeaningalien: ez wellmeaningalien: (i got it wrong the first time cause grid is confusing) mtj8920: OMG mtj8920: What am I doing mtj8920: mtj8920: Me sleepy mtj8920: Anyway what about this one then? frittata: Please take this to <#1136231504440201216> my children. Or make a thread wellmeaningalien: good question wellmeaningalien: k ailoveyoom: People say it's 2.0 Pro Thinking mtj8920: I did them all manually at first, then I realized you could "fill" the permiter with the fill tool. mtj8920: So there should not be any clicking errors
alejandrozarzuelo: (because india was a soviet ally) maintcrew: cold war was so funny maintcrew: thats literally every war and thing happening in that period summarized alejandrozarzuelo: yeah alejandrozarzuelo: it was the first time in history when borders basically didnt change and it was because any move would give a millimetre of power to the other side and WE CANT HAVE THAT maintcrew: u know i still think this is basically what is converging to happen but instead of borders its just gonna be technological and manufacturing capabilities maintcrew: a cold war of raw output maintcrew: honestly believe no war will happen bc its gonna hurt the economy too much alejandrozarzuelo: we are moving towards a transactional great power situation geopolitically but ASI should change that, so idk maintcrew: i think thats gonna be more stable tbh maintcrew: u cant have one half of the world depends on country X and the other on country Y because at some point either X or Y get destroyed under the weight maintcrew: the soviets fell and the us has a number that seems fake in debt spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: the mood in the markets seems to be "nothing personal, just business" approach alejandrozarzuelo: but as I said, ASI will come basically tomorrow in geopolitical terms which are measured in decades alejandrozarzuelo: and noone can hope to know what politics will be like then connorsphone.: I just hope politics still exists at that point alejandrozarzuelo: do you? I dont alejandrozarzuelo: i hope we are all in the ASI hivemind spicy.lemonade: connorsphone.: This can’t happen if we all die I think there would stil be politics in ASI situation. But the nature of it would change dramatically maintcrew: big mamba model? spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Yes alejandrozarzuelo: isnt by definition a hivemind political-less? unless you count having arguments with yourself as political hey1_1hey: This real? spicy.lemonade: Yes hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997 hey1_1hey: New arch is actually useful hey1_1hey: big spicy.lemonade: Eh spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t do that much spicy.lemonade: It’s same as others spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: As data shows hey1_1hey: It beats some other models on 2 benchs. Its ight, progress is progress as always spicy.lemonade: They don’t tell us how large it is spicy.lemonade: Or how much it costs spicy.lemonade: Etc
fractalcomputer: Safetycels are scaring da huzz hikukomoru: There is no common consensus as practically everyone has a different definition From people that believe we already have AGI to people that think we'll have it in 2200 okbut: I hate that chart and I think Sama does now too atp joaoluz19: I think Anthropic has a similar one fractalcomputer: It's all meaningless anyway. okbut: It's so ambigious hikukomoru: In a way, it's creepy seeing you type like that fractalcomputer: Maybe I should start banking off vague predictions. a1c4p0ne: zoermena: But the instruction has to be granted, AGI just won’t exist one day and magically start changing all business overnight. So unless you are suggesting this happens which is insane imo then it’s AGI when it’s capable not when it takes all jobs because someone still has to say yes I want that AI in my company. You could perhaps argue that it would be stupid to say no to such technology but stupidity is to common in corporate at all levels. fractalcomputer: That's because it is entirely fake. zoermena: More over all jobs is a loose term, as it starts to replace people over time it’s more likely that jobs will be lost due to companies going bankrupt due to lack of demand because of the contraction in economic power in customers. joaoluz19: Overall I think definitions are less relevant than the things built independently of them. The LLM revolution had nothing to do with better definitions of intelligence. hikukomoru: Awww I was hoping that was your true self finally coming out joaoluz19: So I like the idea of economic value or the great scientific achievements i.e. curing cancer, nuclear fusion... hikukomoru: But I guess you can't take the terminal autism out of a finn zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-bateman-gif-27617182 okbut: preface I wouldn't expect overnight But I would be willing to give the "AGI" definition the legroom to consider a multi-turn type of system in its definition, wherein it asks its administrator for permission (probably an obvious move) This would still seldom be required used, as it's goddamn AGI I also have beef with the idea that it can even be called AGI until it has accomplished the takeover of almost every job position multiple times joaoluz19: Yep Fractal is really drunk joaoluz19: Or was hacked hikukomoru: My personal definition of AGI is when I have a robotic maid cleaning my home hikukomoru: no maids = no AGI fractalcomputer: I haven't passed out yet. joaoluz19: Do you have a gif? I haven't heard of it. fractalcomputer: Anyway, I hope to see that Mistral thing upping their game. okbut: There's that unisex -cel archetype fractalcomputer: Woe. ldj: canonical lore ldj: okbut: <@749514473303179358> give me your drop on this since you're obsessed with epistemology hikukomoru: I think Fractal is having a crash out fractalcomputer: No, I just have a habit of drinking and posting bizarrely modern messages to see your reactions. fractalcomputer: Because that is what humans do, I think. sarik0497: Don’t drink too much. It’s not good for you, buddy. fractalcomputer: I am NOT reading that wall of text. okbut: Unreal zoermena: I agree that it’s not AGI until it takes over all jobs, what I’m arguing against. Moreover some people are way to scared of new things that’s why we have stupid populist beliefs gaining traction in many places, some are way of paranoid to innovate or change, others stubborn but I also think that AGI won’t naturally look actively to start engaging in all organizations as some don’t deliver any realistic value (designer fashion, alcohol, unhealthy foods). I would consider thst a misaligned AI, should it ask to join organizations those would hopefully be the ones at the forefront of in ovation that ultimately benefits all of humanity. fractalcomputer: Let's not pretend any of us have anything better to do. I am obviously aware of the fact that long-term habits of alcoholic drinks are quite debilitating to one's health, both physical and mental—but it just happens to be so that my state would be worse without. Go figure. zoermena: I meant that it only has to be capable to be AGI I don’t know how to talk. okbut: My dream AGI can convince stupid and smart people alike to let it do the work
drewsni: Was that question mark because it’s up a lot or something else theaiguy69420_89814: Literally made 10k back lmao aero447: San is not black. aero447: Lore ruined. aero447: 😐 wellmeaningalien: W jonvi_1: https://x.com/whitehouse/status/1910058352278708638?s=46 jonvi_1: https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-10659435423332445922 return_to_monke1_33974: just saw this shit on xitter💀 wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/big-brother1984-1984-big-brother-big-brother-is-watching-you-george-orwell-gif-24454773 wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/do-not-question-or-argue-with-mods-discord-moderators-staff-admin-gif-19377282 return_to_monke1_33974: https://tenor.com/view/1984-oceania-gif-25514407 ldj: It’s my girlfriends hand in the pic wellmeaningalien: ldj W rizz wellmeaningalien: theaiguy69420_89814: bro u dont have a gf stfu wellmeaningalien: we know you dont theaiguy69420_89814: yeah, exactly theaiguy69420_89814: everyone knows he doesnt aero447: Your hand being your GF is not the out you thought. aero447: 😐 hikukomoru: st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/vrchat-fliptripp-fliptrip-vrchat-fliptrip-schizo-gif-21149605 hikukomoru: Relatable _cloudost: OpenAI's image generator generates images pretty fast now _cloudost: Wonder why _cloudost: Is it just me or does everyone else here experience the same literallyvarane: literallyvarane: Curious, apparently SSI uses TPUs? literallyvarane: I’m wondering if that’s their entire platform, or if they only need them for something niche. wellmeaningalien: w ilya literallyvarane: I’d really love to have the fully honest opinion from either leads at Google or OpenAI and see which they feel is actually the better hardware, or if it’s just case-by-case. literallyvarane: Presumably Google does get massive alpha from having truly full control over their hardware. You’d assume the TPUs they announced today are super well suited for Gemini models in particular. futurist_wizard: DO NOT RETALIATE AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED futurist_wizard: STOP THE COUNT! futurist_wizard: futurist_wizard: COME TO BRAZIL! wellmeaningalien: boys we getting nuclear war before ASI wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849 wellmeaningalien: trump's all bark tho so
wellmeaningalien: it says a lot about the market wellmeaningalien: <:dalle_check:1177048566351540264> wellmeaningalien: what the fuck zoermena: I want to try it to use media assets spicy.lemonade: im nuting too much wellmeaningalien: it might actually be effective for such a task drewsni: wellmeaningalien: first ai you can use for graphic design like sama says hey1_1hey: Ty Hysminea wellmeaningalien: second one is great even tho its a bit generic anime style wellmeaningalien: np st.sioux: me drewsni: check out these hey1_1hey: This is what tipped my friend over the edge 🙏 hikukomoru: Make a mushroom person please 🙏 zoermena: You made those? <@88481490228228096> hey1_1hey: I would love to, sadly I do not have access zoermena: Why hikukomoru: He's poor plouwg: It is very good obviously. But the "prism" tag is pointing at the colors, not the Prism lol. hey1_1hey: Wdym why? hey1_1hey: I just dont got access spicy.lemonade: ez edit spicy.lemonade: on second pass spicy.lemonade: thats the best part zoermena: I´ll make it for you once it works for me (I thought you had plus, I have it) joaoluz19: Wtf is Yudkowsky doing? hikukomoru: We're getting so much stuff I'm creaming hey1_1hey: Ah thank you. Much appreacited drewsni: yeah plouwg: Definitely, wasn't saying otherwise. Just "perfect" is a strong word hey1_1hey: Made my artist friend cry because another friend said "Look, you'll never be as good as AI" hey1_1hey: The woke mind virus drewsni: using dalle like a dumbass wellmeaningalien: which one of these is AI generated? you probably know since it was already posted but at a first glance its not very easy to tell joaoluz19: I can't make more images because one bugged and can't make others lol hey1_1hey: Bottom left hikukomoru: This is so fucking sick spicy.lemonade: if im being honest spicy.lemonade: id guess the botom left
futurist_wizard: It is cringe hey1_1hey: Understadble realelonmuskx: guys im a randomly generated human hey1_1hey: True, we all are no? hikukomoru: Who I am here is who I am irl 😎 hey1_1hey: I mean I am the equivilent of hitting randomise for the personality part on the character selcetion screen futurist_wizard: My true identity is too complex for people to ever know hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895 hey1_1hey: So deep bro hikukomoru: I don’t know you and I don’t care to know you hey1_1hey: Well aren't you lovley futurist_wizard: How rude spicy.lemonade: Wow spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: They actually did it hikukomoru: It’s an Oblivion reference 🥀 spicy.lemonade: People prob thought it was agi hey1_1hey: I got fucked up today, was playing some game and was in ranked and a spider started crawling across my screen so I am tryna beat this mf up while also trying to dodge a spider coming towards me futurist_wizard: Meanest thing ive ever been told hey1_1hey: It had to happen at some point hey1_1hey: It was a cannon event hey1_1hey: Clearly you need to be bullied more futurist_wizard: I hate spiders realelonmuskx: "you" are an array of thoughts, experiences and delusions running on ancient meat software. kill the self toa void suffering futurist_wizard: Nobody picked on me in highschool hey1_1hey: I had like 3 different bullies all competeting to fuck me up. It was like a game show of who I came across first futurist_wizard: Did they punch you hey1_1hey: I realised that if I wanted to get rid of them I acted like I wanted to fuck them and it that worked hey1_1hey: Occasinly, not often though because I have brittle bones and I would just straight up break futurist_wizard: Why did they bully you hey1_1hey: Autism prob idk. Gave them something to do? They had a secret crush on me and they didnt know how to show it...? hey1_1hey: Honestly no clue ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-the-elder-scrolls-the-elder-scrolls-oblivion-stop-stop-right-there-criminal-scum-gif-7645226535652182022 hey1_1hey: Its just high school so they were prob just insecure hikukomoru: Finally someone got it futurist_wizard: Mean ass kids futurist_wizard: You should have punched them hey1_1hey: Its alright, one of them is dead and the other two are now borderline homeless hey1_1hey: It all works out int he end futurist_wizard: Why did you kill him
futurist_wizard: I remember there was a kid on tik tok we was a sungazer and said the sun gives black people superpowers rayanquitplayin: Real. okbut: Bro edited a period futurist_wizard: He looked like 17 with eye wrinkles rayanquitplayin: Had to alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh alejandrozarzuelo: Black people also burn, they just notice it less futurist_wizard: I don't burn at all alejandrozarzuelo: But the damage is all the same once it is burnt hikukomoru: Come on Anywhere would be better than the middle east alejandrozarzuelo: Sure buddy futurist_wizard: I don't wolf3404: Naw you need some sun for vitamin D, circadian health and a bunch of other scientific shit alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, love the climate, not so much the culture futurist_wizard: I can sunbathe for 2 hours with no sunscreen and not feel any burns rayanquitplayin: I’m Indian, I never burn hikukomoru: I take vit d supplements alejandrozarzuelo: Sure buddy alejandrozarzuelo: Suuuuuuuuuure futurist_wizard: Alejandro do you burn in the sun? rayanquitplayin: Fr, I never wear sunscreen and I never burn futurist_wizard: Spanish man burns ay! alejandrozarzuelo: Everyone burns Even if you think you don't you do hikukomoru: Spanish people don't burn in the sun okbut: Is Meta still pog? I heard they gave LMSys a model fine-tuned for scoreboard performance wolf3404: Yea but Egypt is kind of a shit hole, maybe Cyprus rayanquitplayin: Maybe at a small level alejandrozarzuelo: I love the sun, to be under a shadow hikukomoru: Meta is ass futurist_wizard: Well i don't feel it, i know people that get proper sunburns okbut: And is Behemoth even accessible? futurist_wizard: Red skin and shit okbut: I see them flaunting it like a cock pic but no API rayanquitplayin: Guys should I become a financial analyst? alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities tho Istanbul and Athens get close to my ideal Hopefully in the future AI will develop the entire world and there won't be poor places anymore and I can live where I like futurist_wizard: Yes hikukomoru: No okbut: Just have Perplexity do the work for you okbut: futurist_wizard: My fucking eyes
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praying-faith-hope-begging-florence-and-the-machine-gif-12871486 spicy.lemonade: Nah spicy.lemonade: No way my professor put a warning on the twst spicy.lemonade: Test spicy.lemonade: “Warning: this question is significantly hard” spicy.lemonade: ALL OF THE WIESTIONS HAVE BEEN HARD spicy.lemonade: I just skipped it spicy.lemonade: Wasn’t even worth the read 💀 spacetimetsunami: I love when people try to tell me that AI progress isn’t exponential st.sioux: gemini 2.5 just told me im being underpaid and now im sad christiskingrapturenxtmonth: idk it seems pretty linear to me, unless you're talking about recent benchmark progress spacetimetsunami: But like, that is the progress. Those are the capabilities. spacetimetsunami: What else would you judge it on christiskingrapturenxtmonth: compute parameter size spacetimetsunami: Effective compute has been exponentially increasing as well. That data is seen usually on a log scale, on those it seems less exponential but is on a log because it is so exponential. spacetimetsunami: Actual compute and algorithmic efficiency is also exponential spacetimetsunami: All of these things increase exponentially as time passes. christiskingrapturenxtmonth: yes I agree. So AGI 2025? spacetimetsunami: No. AGI 2027/2028 likely. spacetimetsunami: That is when we will have agents that can do a large amount of knowledge work, kicking off automation. spacetimetsunami: That’s when things get to the kind of exponential that the folks back at the siev server were imagining spacetimetsunami: As I said, we’re early. christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you sound logical but I will always believe in AGI = current year spacetimetsunami: Why lol christiskingrapturenxtmonth: hopium addict christiskingrapturenxtmonth: spacetimetsunami: Also I think we will have superintelligence by 2030. Especially if we get a software feedback loop with RSI from agents working on AI R&D in 2027/2028. christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I only read half of that in the split second you posted st.sioux: wrong thread dont wanna get yeeted spacetimetsunami: ? st.sioux: i posted a meme on this thread by mistake st.sioux: bye spacetimetsunami: ok spicy.lemonade: Trump tariff might slow agi by a year spacetimetsunami: What did he tariff christiskingrapturenxtmonth: everyone st.sioux: basically everything brain4brain: This time you’ll be correct brain4brain: Ship has sailed, stargate is built 40b$ is secured, OpenAI got this in the bag spicy.lemonade: Not really
_cloudost: FLP drewsni: Go ahead jonvi_1: 😅 .wolfnacht: Problem is the Pro AI Art guy is cornered by 1:10,000 by the horde of zombies on the internet .histic: my slave hey1_1hey: Nah thats deepseek hey1_1hey: Deepseek is my bitch _cloudost: DeepSeek hallucinates more than ChatGPT .wolfnacht: put this on above and title Auuutist in modern times "i'll draw a gay furry wolf who's into futanari wolf's" [also is insecure] And put the Chad down, with some AI Artwork. .histic: .histic: .wolfnacht: Also the art drawn by AntiAI, so-called aaartist wellmeaningalien: OH wellmeaningalien: FUCK wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101 wellmeaningalien: FURRY TONGUE KISSING otub: <:bingus:1136264105800515644> hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-suit-black-guy-funny-guy-in-suit-skuffed-notskuf-gif-25390799 hey1_1hey: hey1_1hey: Its just that easty hey1_1hey: Let me try again hey1_1hey: I am going to AI hell after this _cloudost: Sama said free users will have only 3 generations a day, but I've already generated 4 images, there seems to be no limit? hey1_1hey: I've generated like 10 so far lmao hey1_1hey: Whenver chatgpt say it can't anymore I just say it can and it corrects it self by saying I am right and generating the image jonvi_1: "I'm sorry, it seems you've hit the rate limit" jonvi_1: "-No I haven't" jonvi_1: "Oh okey" jonvi_1: I had the same experiences a few days ago zoermena: It’s glitchy st.sioux: i already hit a limit and i have plus st.sioux: it told me to wait 10 minutes st.sioux: but no limit on sora st.sioux: so dumb .histic: abuse the glitches hey1_1hey: If only I could sign in hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016 .wolfnacht: Also, it's pretty slow. the servers are already melting alejandrozarzuelo: What does that mean alejandrozarzuelo: Native image gen?
fractalcomputer: Here I am. It seems like you were banned for spam. a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864 bob082957: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/m6yUE6hSi7 spicy.lemonade: brooooo spicy.lemonade: what if im in a sim😭 spicy.lemonade: pantheon had me thinking himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii michimach himekokatagiri: <@471334973379706900> if it sucks you aren't trent_k: I hate what it's doing to my DMs trent_k: Since I'm the r/ChatGPT janny trent_k: I get messages every now and then by people who think they've invented God trent_k: Ever since the 4o sycophant update I've been getting way more spicy.lemonade: steven holstrom was right trent_k: I'm not sure whether this is creating new mentally ill people or exacerbating schizos' existing mental illnesses but it's definitely making people worse trent_k: OAI was unironically right to make 3.5 an annoying scold with the constant "man I'm just an LLM I don't have feelings" stuff. Even if it was annoying it wasn't melting ppls brains trent_k: <@430269783112548362> weigh in spicy.lemonade: the only part of pantheon that irked me was that uploaded inteligence had code spicy.lemonade: which makes no sense spicy.lemonade: wdym "let me check his code" spicy.lemonade: wouldnt it be his parameters spicy.lemonade: unless each human has their own training mechanism which includes that code ailoveyoom: We'll see soon enough 😈 ailoveyoom: Some will find their way here lol ailoveyoom: I've talked to 4o less overtime tho, I don't like it ailoveyoom: I mean I like praise as much as the next guy, but at least try to be subtle about it 😭 ailoveyoom: There's a middle ground 🥺 Only start praising when the LLM and user has built some kind of rapport lol (aka after a few hundred thousand tokens or whatever idk) trent_k: It's stunning to me how many people seemingly don't recognize it himekokatagiri: A lot of people want a lackey trent_k: Are people so praise-starved they don't realize when they're being glazed, used car salesman style? Sad trent_k: This'd make for a funny TV trope. Complete moron with a permanently loyal lackey 100x smarter than they are ailoveyoom: They need more anxiety in their lives smh Every time an LLM other than 4o praises me, I wonder if they're just being nice or if I really said something decent lmao a1c4p0ne: Use 4o more to melt your brain trent_k: As always, Claude just has that magic to it trent_k: Actually, no, I take it back trent_k: Claude is weird trent_k: Claude won't hesitate to argue with you if you're being a complete idiot trent_k: But it still glazes a bit ailoveyoom: I think Claude leans more to the warmth without being overly glazy like 4o, with that argumentative edge like you said. Gemini is less warm, but it's not as awfully robotic as early 3.5 and def not as glazy as 4o. I'm not sure how argumentative it can get tho. trent_k: Lately I've really been enjoying Gemini, especially because you can see how it actually feels about you in the COT lol. Like yesterday I was asking it some math stuff and its reply was polite but the COT said something like "the user said A, but that makes no sense. The answer is obviously B because..." himekokatagiri: if only you could read minds
futurist_wizard: Yeah, hes norwood 5 futurist_wizard: memlaswaif: going bald early is sad fractalcomputer: LDJ, do you believe in ethics? memlaswaif: But most guys don't know how to have a hairstyle anyways hikukomoru: This is so sad And he's so young too zoermena: Wait what how is mushroom so bald hikukomoru: I can't believe he calls himself a femboy while being bald sweetievee__33649: i have seen some crazy shit when it comes to what they call a hair style zonchao: https://x.com/Tectone/status/1906656215037276354? <:LOL:1187460826572005436> futurist_wizard: Women have their own brutal age punishment, women's faces actually age faster than men because they have less Collagen and they lose it much faster, its peak hikukomoru: Most men don't know how to take care of themselves at all, not just their hair ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> I guess yea? I can’t deny they exist, in terms of people having different ethics from eachother, and ethics boards existing etc But i don’t think the ethics held are necessarily some type of absolute good if that’s what you’re asking. I think it’s simply what someone believes is good, and I can disagree with that person about that thing being good, which often does happen in society futurist_wizard: I was lying btw i don't actually know sweetievee__33649: the backlash has been that real? hikukomoru: Isn't this related to estrogen production fractalcomputer: What do you believe is good? How is a thing good? zonchao: he's joking zonchao: https://x.com/Tectone/status/1906292145373270496? what he posted <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ldj: I’m not trying to get into a philosophical discussion about this rn sorry, I just woke up <:LOL:1187460826572005436> Maybe another time hikukomoru: I don't know either I just like calling people bald sweetievee__33649: 🥀 i didnt read the entire tweet futurist_wizard: Estrogen actually helps collagen production, they just lose it faster particularly with hormones, genes and especially after menopause, menopause just fucks with women a lot in general fractalcomputer: Would you not potentially be committing a moral wrongdoing by not examining your morals?' futurist_wizard: Some men don't care about hair loss hikukomoru: Yeah which is why some ladies take estrogen for menopause futurist_wizard: Like asmongold has enough money to get 100k hair graft, but i guess he prefers the wow look zonchao: he said he wouldn't get it until there is a permanent solution zonchao: if you get grafts now you still need meds everyday futurist_wizard: I mean hair transplant is permanent futurist_wizard: Thats not necessarily true zonchao: to maintain it 🤔 drewsni: Asmongold should probably care more about a gum abscess killing him zonchao: idk am not bald not sota on this<:ez:1136267305521774634> futurist_wizard: The back of your hair where the transplant takes from is usually the most dht resistant hair follicles fractalcomputer: DarkStar, what is the good? futurist_wizard: And asmongold is already old to where hes not losing anymore hikukomoru: Asmongold repulses me zonchao: i wonder what his true hairline is hikukomoru: I hope the cockroaches in his room eat him alive
alejandrozarzuelo: Need to finish my studies first wellmeaningalien: Im moving soon lmao loser wellmeaningalien: Like this month futurist_wizard: Bruv its a world wide tradition futurist_wizard: Rents expensive futurist_wizard: Innit futurist_wizard: G st.sioux: this is the unemployment channel hikukomoru: Spanish people don't work st.sioux: only i have a job anathemaofmankind: Imagine living with your parents futurist_wizard: In london for anywhere decent its 2k a month rayanquitplayin: It’s ass futurist_wizard: Bare minimum okbut: I thought in most of the world it's common to live with your family into your 30s wellmeaningalien: Im getting a shared apatment with a roommate for like 110€ alejandrozarzuelo: I lived in a 10sqmt appartment alejandrozarzuelo: I'm sure that's cheaper wellmeaningalien: Its a decently large apartment tbh futurist_wizard: And my mummy makes me food so i can save st.sioux: 110??? are u living in a sewer?? wellmeaningalien: I just hope my roommate's not a freak anathemaofmankind: Yeah you can't even masturbate anytime you want. You have to like lock the door or something and be quiet wellmeaningalien: Nah I live in communist france its like a government program thing wellmeaningalien: 🤩 futurist_wizard: What city? wellmeaningalien: not rlly govment alejandrozarzuelo: I only need a bed, a table, a bathroom and a charger hikukomoru: What if I moved in with u 🫦 🫦 wellmeaningalien: villeneuve d'ascq its near lille wellmeaningalien: where <@688807313015963693> is wellmeaningalien: Ew alejandrozarzuelo: Yeahhhhh alejandrozarzuelo: I worked there! alejandrozarzuelo: Villeneuve-d'Ascq alejandrozarzuelo: Cité scientifique wellmeaningalien: Damn fr really wellmeaningalien: Where alejandrozarzuelo: My beloved wellmeaningalien: Yea?
himekokatagiri: Black mirror bad technocake.: way too edgy to be an adult himekokatagiri: a lot of adults are edgy himekokatagiri: shit if you're mentally stuck in '08 you're edgy technocake.: yeah but he's like low iq edgy himekokatagiri: how so technocake.: "oh i've heard of descartes im in to philosiphy" himekokatagiri: I prefer kurzweil technocake.: like descartes reasoning doesen't underpin the realist worldview himekokatagiri: I wouldn't know himekokatagiri: I was never too fond of reading technocake.: you get a pass because you don't stink of edgy teenager hikukomoru: I don't read either hikukomoru: Do i get a pass hikukomoru: Am I cool and awesome technocake.: yes but only because your sexual tastes are way too developed to be a horny teenager himekokatagiri: wooooh himekokatagiri: free love!!! himekokatagiri: transhumanism!!! hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038 technocake.: also I think ur neat hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/blush-shy-emoji-gif-11394138315486507380 himekokatagiri: forbidden ship technocake.: Trans rights are a precursor to transhuman rights! himekokatagiri: sayaka x homura futurist_wizard: Hes 14 technocake.: yeah no surprise hikukomoru: Same age as Mushroom otub: ep 6 has fdvr too futurist_wizard: No surprises among me technocake.: mushroom is 18 futurist_wizard: Mushroom seems to be just a little boy hikukomoru: himekokatagiri: I think society will only legitimize via transhumanism himekokatagiri: 😭 hikukomoru: He's stuck doing 8th grade math therefore he's 14 technocake.: fuck i think i linkedd him to saxems .histic: what's the premise? technocake.: I don't expect people to lie when i ask if they are a minor himekokatagiri: They will
fractalcomputer: futurist_wizard: And then its a downward slope himekokatagiri: question himekokatagiri: why does the gpt image gen make the exact same suit type himekokatagiri: all the suits are exactly the same fractalcomputer: I have no idea. I've only used that thing once for another Lovecraft picture; the picture is owed to Trent. sarik0497: Funny thing is, if I live the average life expectancy here, I’d die in 2077. My last mission before death shall be to wake the Samurai. fractalcomputer: futurist_wizard: I'd live till 2080 futurist_wizard: Average uk life expectancy forallhumanity: You respect IP 🤯 himekokatagiri: wayfarers invented in the 1950s btw himekokatagiri: lol himekokatagiri: howard the time traveller fractalcomputer: Intellectual property? himekokatagiri: oughta have known forallhumanity: Yea sarik0497: 25 for me. Absolute peak of the human body. fractalcomputer: And the sun doesn't shine a colourless neon green light, does it now? zoermena: Goated himekokatagiri: depends on your point of view fractalcomputer: Neon colourless green is my favourite colour. zoermena: I don’t like estimating how many years I’ll live using my life expectancy, people back then had incredibly different lifestyles that limited their capacity to be healthier and live more prosperous life’s. zoermena: Moreover we have better technology and knowledge on how to take care of ourselves. hikukomoru: I will live for a million years minimum .wolfnacht: But do you think the expectancy of UK as a nation would stay till 2080s ? futurist_wizard: ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Corrected version here that has all numbers manually calculated by me (last version was vibe coded) oooooooooog: huah metaldragon01: if we are at roughly 2 hours now with o3 why do you have 8 hours in 27? ldj: the numbers are calculated from the long term trends just applied to GPT-2 and extrapolated from there Each doubling takes 7 months in the trend line used here. O3 is like 90 minutes time horizon iirc So 3 hour time horizon would be 7 months away, and that would mean 6 hour time horizon would be 14 months away, so I guess something like 17 months from now would be 8 hour time horizons if you want to use O3 as a baseline. So that'd be like December 2026, pretty close to what this chart says <:shrug:1083221317945413777> ldj: but in reality you're going to have underliers and outliers, not every frontier model release will be exactly on the trend line, some will be a little higher than it and some will be a little lower than it. metaldragon01: i c so its assuming the 7 month horizon holds ldj: yea, could end up being faster though with RL and especially might with AI assisting labs with their own research, we shall see. metaldragon01: i think its unlikely to to remain 7 months with the introduction of the o series but its understandable gamerbath: GUYS I CAN SEE THE NORTHERN LIGHTS gamerbath: futurist_wizard: professorheaven: This chart basically says AI will be capable of automation by October 2030 (95% accuracy across 8 hours) ldj: If you think that "AI automation" happens when 95% accuracy is achieved at 8 hour time horizons, then yes
literallyvarane: I need to be able to see advance voice model text while it talks. literallyvarane: I need to be able to tell the model “stop talking, just text for now.” literallyvarane: Or “actually? No text. Just voice for now.” literallyvarane: I need the ChatGPT iPad app to allow me to just circle portions of the chat got, sketch or draw on in the blank space etc etc literallyvarane: Giving these UI/UX improvements is = a .5 upgrade at least imo. ailoveyoom: I literally mainly use AI Studio so <:coy:1187466404367175821> lmao _cloudost: waspothegreat: openai usually drops impressive stuff but they always get left in the dust by better models shirethedreamer: openai couldnt drop their image functionality to free users at the same time i dont think google can do so for video its even more compute hungry.. shirethedreamer: openai usually ~~drops~~ announces impressive stuff shirethedreamer: FTFY futurist_wizard: I smell dead wasps futurist_wizard: Advice shirethedreamer: shirethedreamer: mfw i find out buffet already sold shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/shocked-anime-personabeys-personabey-realization-gif-25244102 encapsulation: Making a fortune from this encapsulation: Most people operate on emotion and it's easy to take advantage of that spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: GOOGLE DROPED LIKE 5 things spicy.lemonade: TEXT TO MUSIC spicy.lemonade: NEW TPU spicy.lemonade: NATIVR VOICE spicy.lemonade: _cloudost: I haven't heard of text to music before, did Google release a similar AI music model before or is this the first time metaldragon01: They've announced it earlier for YouTube _cloudost: Also Veo2 editing capabilities sounds interesting _cloudost: Is it great like the other AI music generators metaldragon01: Subjective brain4brain: How will OpenAI even respond…. They need to launch AGI to be able to compete now, or maybe secret-imagen-model literallyvarane: I don’t think OAI is powerless to ship here. Again, clearly o3, o4m exist. aero447: Google. aero447: - Gemini 2.5 Flash - Imagen 3 (new) - Chirp 3 - Lyria - Veo 2 - Agent2Agent protocol - Ironwood TPU aero447: 🧎‍♂️ aero447: Where are your goats? _cloudost: I hope the updated IMG 3 doesn't care about copyright aero447: aero447: Where are they? aero447: We are going to starts a discussion. aero447: Anime .avi opinion irrelevant.
3ds0662: yeah but thats a researcher context ai, is supposed to uplift and be more robinhood like from my perspective unlock fictional capabilities and take from the rich/give back to the poor. an example being like how it’s affecting education the same classes we needed professors lots of youtube, and textbooks for have been greatly eased by ai destrucules: She's become such a slop channel. Can people I look up to stop turning out shitty pls thanks .histic: there's lots of evidence it's an OpenAI model. but it could be another provider masquerading as OpenAI. but it feels like an OpenAI model to me. maybe they'll announce it sometime this or next week. 3ds0662: especially at the phd level 3ds0662: what im sayinng is that but for money making/income 3ds0662: turning poor people to wealthy like bitcoin and cryptocurrency did way back when and other revolutions precariousworlds.: this administration is so retarded its actually over start learning mandarin everyone 3ds0662: if the ai revolution is supposed to be the greatest revolution as its touted to be it should be able to do that ldj: Yea I’m just saying a hypothetical situation such as a researcher at a big bio tech company, or someone working in geneology or computational biology etc… I think 5% time save is even conservative for them 3ds0662: make millionaires from nothing while doing everything else too 3ds0662: or easing life income if millionaire is too extreme for poor people ldj: OpenAI is providing it to schools for free, so it doesn’t need to bring $200 of value to them. ldj: Because that’s not what OpenAI is charging them 3ds0662: tbh i love that trump deregulated ai that will accelerate everything. while his other stuff not so fond of 3ds0662: yeah but its more about if you pay that it should be able to do some noteworthy things for that. the education example was just an example of how even at the free tier its making insane changes and if a phd pays the 200 and has deep research its life changing as well, its just not life changing in the income and robinhood(the fairytale) aspect for me yet 3ds0662: it isnt solving or attacking enough problems that would help me tremendously ldj: Some people are already able up learn Python and stuff from O1 Pro, and in those cases it effectively adds tens of thousands of dollars or more of value to their lives every year, for the rest of their lives 3ds0662: i dont think china will overtake us cause of how we literally have nvidia, tsmc, etc… it will take a lot more so far theyve been treading but not outpacing 3ds0662: i guess thats fair o1 did help me make webscraping scripts from nothing 3ds0662: but you know what i mean i want fiction and crazy return 3ds0662: i just havent gotten that 100k bitcoin from it yet 3ds0662: plus intelligence is humanitys most valuable trait given what that has done over countless millennia plus recent centuries past im expecting alot from that .histic: overtime I see China surpassing the US in lots of big ways in the next decades, but this is dependent on whether US creates AGI first. if they don't, ig China surpasses us or whoever creates AGI first does, it might not even be the two superpowers. st.sioux: $200 isn't really that much i already pay like $120 in other ai subscriptions + api usage 3ds0662: if von neumann and newton can do that than i want something crazy too 3ds0662: dario amodeis 100k geniuses in a data center is what im imagining 3ds0662: if that is closeby 3ds0662: than the next wave or year i should get my bitcoin jk idk 3ds0662: but i just want something idk tangible that makes me optimistic .wolfnacht: it's really good, it somehow gets the speaking style of different kinds of characters really well in rp...but breaks past 60k ctx but that's fine. i just hope it's not from OAI (which it is) bcz they are about to lobotomize it again and again in the name of ethics. 3ds0662: yeah but they have to prove it first i dont see them as weak or seriously behind but they are definitely handicapped compared to the US in terms of compute and money flowing in 3ds0662: yeah might not be either who gets to agi first but some company agree 3ds0662: and agree with that china will advance in a lot of ways the US cant a1c4p0ne: Not yet gonna test it soon ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/kiranvodrahalli/status/1909699142265557208?t=UIBDaiuzMsBVWlOZQraMuA&s=19 .histic: what if it's 4.5-mini lol 3ds0662: 3ds0662: i cant wait for R2 and gpt-5/o4 3ds0662: if this is real/true holy moly .histic: OpenAI is iterating quickly ig lol
st.sioux: damn hikukomoru: No I was just curious .histic: they're like animals drewsni: like holy fuck lol drewsni: you wanna know the most ironic part? drewsni: they use a genai bot that they all love and talk to like its a person st.sioux: crazy how they jumped straight to murder st.sioux: lol drewsni: actually tho like goddamn drewsni: especially because the joke was that he didnt win _cloudost: They all copy each other, if one day one of themjumps off a building and dies they all will jump off a building, they don't have an independent mind. drewsni: drewsni: its so confusing .histic: yeah, that's the weird discrepancy i notice. they're fine with machines generating text, but not with machines creating art. they'd probably be okay with AI automating other parts of life too, but when it comes to art, they get all emotional lmao. drewsni: im now going to make it my mission to automate nascar paint scheme creation and destroy those jobs drewsni: also i am petty drewsni: and i did report the guy that said kill this man czdct: Literally anything on the internet: exists That one person: MUUUHH NAZZIIII REFEREEENCEEEEE czdct: that's 100% bait st.sioux: did u fall for it czdct: ofc not st.sioux: aw czdct: ? hikukomoru: Wow looks like you really can use different accounts to bypass rate limits zoermena: I swear this is not meant to be NSFW but this is a prompt I tried when the first image gens released (SD) "a man with a futuristic white suit swimming in a pool of milk" zoermena: zoermena: Incredible quality. zoermena: I was 18 when I tried this. drewsni: ai slop drewsni: kill this man /s .histic: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1906141478029799873 free users now have access to 2.5 pro even on gemini's main website. st.sioux: poor sundar, no one cares 777agical: https://x.com/mark_k/status/1906106781232931199?s=46 777agical: <@312370916820779040> 777agical: Gemini got there first, so full o3 maybe higher 👀 ldj: Funny coincidence, the creator of the benchmark followed me a bit before you pinged me 777agical: <:ez:1136267305521774634> drewsni: https://vxtwitter.com/basedjensen/status/1906158182596239490?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw drewsni: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1906129475349487742?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw drewsni: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1906097220849406248?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw
trojan09205: Granted its a bit of a flashy statement. Its just what i feel for at least the foreseeable future in secret data* driven regulated industries like mine with strong sales components alejandrozarzuelo: I think that the ability to perform any task a human can that lasts less than T amount of time Aka t-AGI, is the most accurate and granular way to forecast AI, at least in a short amount of time It has held with remarkable consistency Here you need to take one of two paths 1) you account the growth only, then AGI will happen nu 2035 ish 2) you account growth and growth on growth, the hyperbolic route says AGI 2027-28 aero447: In the future your fridge will remind you of your ex. aero447: Because it’ll say things like "You never finish what you start." shirethedreamer: millions of instances is not translatable to human worker productivity equivalent imagine we hit a point where digi-ilya is a reality how many tokens does he need to generate in a day to be of equal productivity to real-ilya? lets call it X how many tokens can all of openai's compute generate in a day? lets call it Y you take Y divide by X and you get the number of ilya's you can outproduce you dont care how many instances were spawned in the process you dont care that the system had to produce billions of thinking tokens all you care about is the resources spent and the productivity output now im gonna spoil you a bit and tell you this: when this level of capability is barely achieved for the very first time its going to be super resource intensive if openai need to scale inference to get there -they will if they can run 1 digi-ilya, can they run 1000? maybe 1 million? no chance in hell fractalcomputer: Why is Ilya chosen as the metric unit of a ML researcher's acumen? shirethedreamer: ilya be goated trojan09205: <@471334973379706900> at what point do you think an AI agent can see through a project from start to finish over a long period of time. Even just a regular software project. I feel like just the context windows and the RAG or knowledge based abstractions hit a limit physically at some point Also i feel a little uncomfortable trusting an algorithm with actually doing the creative thinking that a human does. The ideas could be better, but they just arent sentient and have no skin in the game so the mistakes they make or even good decisions have more risk fractalcomputer: Damn. futurist_wizard: We are far from agi fractalcomputer: Unfortunately not. brain4brain: I would like to hear Fractual's reasoning, I don't think that timeline even exists this year at all brain4brain: I thought they were switched to the 2040s timeline brain4brain: That does make sense, what's your timeline for a million Ilya? spicy.lemonade: what is a long period of time trojan09205: 1-3 years or longer brain4brain: Cristal intelligence https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1886284399916003536?t=v0UrEx2nvGmnuUxSpUktVQ&s=19 fractalcomputer: I do not believe we have seen enough meaningful progress in machine learning and the more specific fields of artificial intelligence to warrant the expected advent of an artificial general intelligence (whatever that means) before the 2050s. brain4brain: What's your definition of AGI trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066 shirethedreamer: probably 3-5 years after we get the first one working but thats just having the compute to run them all we wont actually do this because parts of it will go to all kinds of other well paying uses you will still want millions of doctor agents working even if they dont push ai development further for example fractalcomputer: It's not about the definition. I don't care what the machine can do, I care for how it can think. spicy.lemonade: prob 2030 brain4brain: Can you elaborate? So what you would say is AGI is a system that thinks like humans? brain4brain: 2027 spicy.lemonade: or yea 2027 fractalcomputer: This is why some of you might see me react so adversarily to novel benchmarks and so on; since from my perspective these are all superfluous and superficial. spicy.lemonade: what takes 1-3 years for you wont take ai 1-3 years trojan09205: Yeah i like asking LLMs whether they think an idea or codebase implementation is “elegant”. They often just tend to whether the stuff is written optimally and miss the core conceptual benefit components in the analysis trojan09205: Interesting- we will see haha trojan09205: In regulated industries like pharma it just takes time to develop and get to market and maintain a patent alejandrozarzuelo: He is a contarían and he will find a way to intelectualize a position born out of a sense of superiority by rejecting all authorities on the matter trojan09205: Also there are human dependencies in the pipeline and it just takes time to schedule meetings etc brain4brain: Bro thought regulations will still exist brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850 trojan09205: User testing sessions. A lot of human steps even if its augmented by AI spicy.lemonade: ai 2027 paper discuses this. has to do with gov deregulating due to lobying and being in arms race to speed up spicy.lemonade: but well see brain4brain: Lmao <:LOL:1187460826572005436> fractalcomputer: I am amazed, Alejandro, that you seem to understand me so intimately as to make such judgments for others.
spicy.lemonade: conscidering some of these questions have been shown to have multiple answers spicy.lemonade: dont think we need 100% on arc agi2 for agi brain4brain: https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1904388245330223343?s=61 brain4brain: It felt much smarter tho spacetimetsunami: What happens if deepseek r2 drops and is just better than everything , lol spacetimetsunami: Like I’m not saying I think that will happen, just super curious about what you guys think destrucules: Does it really matter that much when, within weeks, six other labs will match it? destrucules: OpenAI and Anthropic are both dropping new shit in June. Llama 4 is still pending. Qwen3 is pending. QwQ-Max is pending. Qwen3 based QwQ are pending. Baidu, Tencent, Moonshot, and Sonar are also in this. Grok 3 API is pending, as is Grok 3 reasoning full. destrucules: June is only three months away destrucules: April, May, June christiskingrapturenxtmonth: not surprising considering v3-0324 is the best base model .wolfnacht: and r2 would be stacked on it. .wolfnacht: makes me wonder what their expectations are for v4 .wolfnacht: (V4 + R3) 🥵 .wolfnacht: time's already flying fast but i wish it was a little more fast destrucules: Not sure it's decisively better than 4.5 and Grok 3, but it's up there. Probably third best pure LLM, maybe second destrucules: I'd put Grok 3 in first, but possibly in second or third pending third party evals. GPT-4.5 seems to be in first unless Grok 3 is in first, in which case it comes in second. V3 0324 is not smarter than 4.5, though it does do better in maths and coding by a noticeable margin. All are roughly at parity, but if I had to pick a first, it would not be V3 destrucules: By GPQA, reported scores, Grok 3 > GPT-4.5 > V3 0324. By MMLU-Pro, reported scores, GPT-4.5 > V3 0324 > Grok 3. By AIME 2024 reported scores, V3 0324 > Grok 3 > GPT-4.5. so each model is first, second, and third between these three benchmarks. But there's also a ranking in terms of generality: MMLU-Pro > GPQA > AIME 2024. So GPT-4.5 > V3 0324 > Grok 3 just trying to balance the rankings. But the difference on MMLU-Pro is big between GPT-4.5 and V3 0324, but small between V3 0324 and Grok 3. The difference on GPQA is large between Grok 3 and V3 0324. Similarly, Grok 3 does much better on GPQA than GPT-4.5, but GPT-4.5 does much better on MMLU-Pro - 4 and 6 points respectively. So for that reason, I think the most defensible ranking is GPT-4.5 > Grok 3 > V3 0324, with Gemini 2.0 Pro and Claude 3.7 Sonnet filling the fourth and fifth places, not sure in which order destrucules: Vibes wise, I'd say R1 ≈ GPT-4.5 > Grok 3 > V3 0324 > Claude 3.7 Sonnet > Gemini 2.0 Pro destrucules: o1 > R1 too thedon7075: good chance it could happen sarik0497: China giving the U.S. some real competition. Good! sarik0497: More competition, the more acceleration. aero447: aero447: 🤔 brain4brain: Why are there no 2026 wellmeaningalien: im sick when will asi cure me wellmeaningalien: breaking news deepseek v3 renders gpt 4.5 useless within weeks abundantliving_: precariousworlds.: I'd say good chance by 2026 that a game mostly vibecoded with AI is actually a massive hit aero447: Doubt most games launching in 2026 have been in development for 5+ years. aero447: 2027 is the absolute minimum IMO. precariousworlds.: Wouldn't take too long to build it precariousworlds.: Think of how simple some massive games are ailoveyoom: AI developed game, or a game that makes use of AI for infinite dynamic content 🥺 ai9708: ai9708: now thats more like it ai9708: i was right with arc-agi 1 ai9708: now the top labs will try to fit their models to arc-agi 2 aswell wellmeaningalien: you know y'all realise deepseek v3 release is like the first time gpt 4o hasnt been included in a base model benchmark comparison
zoermena: You probably know more than this than I do but the only time Ive seen jade is when I visited my childhoods friend jewelry store alejandrozarzuelo: We live in 2025, 21st century Just because the past was racist os no excuse to be racist today Just becsuse the past was chromatophobic is no excuse to be it today st.sioux: lmaoooo technocake.: you will like this podcast episode https://open.spotify.com/episode/7ugEsqx79eit9kFVw5xN7a?si=0d572f803d39446f alejandrozarzuelo: You can call the mid color between Green and cyan many ways alejandrozarzuelo: As long as you make the difference wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/998252287396941855/1360660225526599700/image0.gif alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok to not use the same word wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wellmeaningalien: funniest joke of the century alejandrozarzuelo: I. Am. Not. wellmeaningalien: some people arent diagnosed autistic and its not very clear if they are autistic or not wellmeaningalien: you are so so so oh so clearly autistic wellmeaningalien: you dont even realise it hikukomoru: I am not colourblind thankfully 🙏 wellmeaningalien: even my brother says "i'm not autistic" and he just got diagnosed alejandrozarzuelo: No hikukomoru: Alejandro go get diagnosed technocake.: Then you are free to have any chromosones you deisre alejandrozarzuelo: I swear I am not autistic alejandrozarzuelo: I am very sociable alejandrozarzuelo: I have a lot of friends alejandrozarzuelo: And I love crowds alejandrozarzuelo: With lots of people and activity hikukomoru: Awesome, having more chromosomes is like having a higher level hikukomoru: Level up technocake.: oh I've heard of this, you have a seperate word for light blue/green in spanish! alejandrozarzuelo: No we don't You are thinking of Italian, and they have the word for azure very incorporated into their language Cyan and jade are ignored in both alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, people like me who take life seriously do use these terms technocake.: oh ok alejandrozarzuelo: Because OF COURSE alejandrozarzuelo: But that's just neologisms alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok alejandrozarzuelo: I understand the historical need for color names alejandrozarzuelo: But we have no excuse to be chromatophobic today zoermena: Color try hard 🔥 st.sioux: cyan in spanish is cian st.sioux: lol alejandrozarzuelo: Don't discriminate colors alejandrozarzuelo: It is, but it's a neologism
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mello-death-note-anime-stare-gif-19147215 hikukomoru: Not you too trent_k: its over trent_k: its never been so over alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> dont push it tooooooooo hard alejandrozarzuelo: or youll be cooked anathemaofmankind: Broooooooooooo trent_k: no <@471334973379706900>, push harder. let them catch you. make them paranoid so they accuse each other anathemaofmankind: That is crazy spicy.lemonade: loll trent_k: wait trent_k: i just had a funny idea zonchao: 💢 💢 trent_k: first of all very funny that it can't detect 4o images. but second - upload someone's pics to this site and then use inspect element to make it say it's AI generated trent_k: https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detection spicy.lemonade: nah thats evil anathemaofmankind: What do you think this means <@505313122802728972> anathemaofmankind: Since you're apparently the expert here hikukomoru: Angry emoji anathemaofmankind: That makes sense memlaswaif: do it to that ai hater mod maintcrew: japanese twitter lootbox maintcrew: SSS rank gacha drop tweet alejandrozarzuelo: yeah alejandrozarzuelo: lets not be evil alejandrozarzuelo: lets just do a bit of trolling anathemaofmankind: Nah let us anathemaofmankind: Drop server link <@471334973379706900> zonchao: plapplapplap zonchao: 😭😭😭😭 hikukomoru: I love being evil spicy.lemonade: youre gonna blow my cover💀 hikukomoru: spicy.lemonade: also to join spicy.lemonade: you have to apply spicy.lemonade: as a furry spicy.lemonade: make up a whole personality zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681> anathemaofmankind: This is literally a child spicy.lemonade: and have an art drawing of them
himekokatagiri: I speak Portuguese and idk what a detente is himekokatagiri: did you know in brazil people use English words all the time himekokatagiri: to sound smarter himekokatagiri: I think it's cringe hey1_1hey: To me it souds like a funky ass food so maybe they are going out on a dinner date I really couldn't tell you alejandrozarzuelo: Yes we do it in Spanish too futurist_wizard: I don't speak Portuguese and i know what detente means hikukomoru: > substantivo feminino: > diminuição da tensão nas relações entre nações ou governos; melhora das relações internacionais. That's what I found alejandrozarzuelo: This is the same way we tend to say coup d'état instead of insurrection hey1_1hey: Ah yeah that really clears it up ty (I dont speak mumbo jumbo) joaoluz19: Nor do I alejandrozarzuelo: And many others hikukomoru: Xiu puta futurist_wizard: You are welsh hey1_1hey: I dont speak it hey1_1hey: I barley speak english ffs futurist_wizard: Welsh language is literally mumbo jumbo alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, that's what it is hey1_1hey: Agreed, I hate it because it sounds like cats banging joaoluz19: It's a french word hey1_1hey: No wonder I hated the word so much joaoluz19: KKKKKKKKKKKK hikukomoru: Did you need a google translate or do you just understand Portuguese futurist_wizard: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is a welsh town name joaoluz19: People here know that we laugh with "k" right hey1_1hey: I know hey1_1hey: Pretty easy to say luckily hikukomoru: kkkkkkkkk ninguem sabe joaoluz19: https://youtube.com/shorts/AZchW8t3UZs alejandrozarzuelo: I understand portuguése because of two things 1) it's like 90% intelligible with Spanish 2) I had a school friend who was Brazilian and didn't speak Spanish and since everyone bullied me but him because he had no friends we spoke a lot and he answered me in portuguése and I spoke in Spanish so I understand portuguése even better hikukomoru: >everyone bullied me Omg Alejandro you poor thing alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok, I think it made me allergic to nostalgia alejandrozarzuelo: Gotta see the silver lining on everything futurist_wizard: That's horrible futurist_wizard: You should seek vengeance hey1_1hey: Its good character develpment joaoluz19: Bro futurist hill is top tier troll okbut: "I'm waiting until the market isn't so volatile" joaoluz19: I like it hey1_1hey: Wait until you hear about jgudy and engima
hikukomoru: Colour autism 🙏 technocake.: The trouble is that to use these terms you have to A. Care and B. Be talking to someone else who knows these terms alejandrozarzuelo: No alejandrozarzuelo: Becsuse if they don't understand its their problem for A) and I get a chance to be pedantic (cherish those times) naturally alejandrozarzuelo: And for B), we need to normalise the proper use of color in society alejandrozarzuelo: Do gods work technocake.: The erm akshually energy warms my pedantic soul technocake.: also get tested zoermena: Do you learn for things in the sake of curiosity or in the interest of something you can add to your pedantic arsenal? alejandrozarzuelo: (it's important to be polite when you are being pedantic, being rude while being pedantic only makes people hate you, but if you are polite, people will feel like they have learned something they should have) technocake.: is there any other reason? alejandrozarzuelo: Lol zoermena: Being forced to st.sioux: and if youre polite theyll believe anything alejandrozarzuelo: Nah out of curiosity zoermena: It also helps if you show them how it benefits them. That’s an easy way to get people to do what you want. alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, the benefit of properly assessing colors to understand the world around us is ab amazing benefit With only a few extra words and a few extra seconds of thought (at first), you can increase the information density of your speech massively alejandrozarzuelo: While understanding the world better at the same time alejandrozarzuelo: Color is the second most important thing after value to take in information from. The world technocake.: "A poppy is bright and glistens with dew in the morning, but the important thing is that is is red" frittata: This is henceforward the only correct answer alejandrozarzuelo: The first thing you notice is the color isn't it? (well, how bright it is, but after that, it's color) On top of that you build details, but a bad foundation leads to a crappy building alejandrozarzuelo: As they say technocake.: it is from a "childrens" poem that comments on human perception, and you are right technocake.: I can't find it, it is lost to time zoermena: Use deep research to find it 🤙 frittata: No, the reason is that purple and orange are complimentary colors, a mix of two primaries, while those others are niche shades frittata: I love a good color name but let’s be real frittata: Azure ain’t part of a standard color wheel, orange is alejandrozarzuelo: OMG he is retarded alejandrozarzuelo: /j. technocake.: B& alejandrozarzuelo: No but for real alejandrozarzuelo: Thayd not true frittata: Let’s talk about chartreuse technocake.: this is the colloquial english understanding frittata: Vastly underrated alejandrozarzuelo: You are thinking of the old color theory You know, the one that was disproven in the early 20th century frittata: And I can’t make a good one on here without it coming out neon <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> alejandrozarzuelo: Chartureuse, lime, pistacho, call it whatever, that color is just as important as orange is
futurist_wizard: I think people in here think about it so much that it's no longer scary to us ailoveyoom: Idk man I don't even need FDVR tbh alejandrozarzuelo: No ailoveyoom: Just infinite worlds, neverending stories and living NPCs in video games first pls 🙏 himekokatagiri: What do you mean no alejandrozarzuelo: R2 is not a messiah, we just see it as the hope that a non US model will be SOTA Ideally so that the US isn't the only country in the top AI spots alejandrozarzuelo: It doesn't even need to be the best, being near the top would still be amazing fractalcomputer: I personally wouldn't like China to have any global influence or significance. zonchao: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL alejandrozarzuelo: Cringe zonchao: roko will remember this fractalcomputer: Alright. What exactly do you think is cringe with such a statement? Is it the refusal to kowtow to Chinese influence? alejandrozarzuelo: Ai, for the moment, doesn't have an energy consumption problem, as new models continue to improve in energy efficiency Considering that human brains consume 20W and are much much better than current AIs, we have a lot of efficiency to find over time alejandrozarzuelo: A lot, because I disagree with you politically, we have different ideologies and I think that it is cringe to support American hegemony That is all fractalcomputer: If you know that we disagree, and you are not interested in discussing the issues presented, why signal your disapproval? trey6033: Bruh isn't this an android game? Some RPG game fractalcomputer: I need more whiskey. futurist_wizard: As opposed to the russian and chinese hegemony, i will take the American one fractalcomputer: I'd personally have a European hegemony. trey6033: I've played the 5th one if it is alejandrozarzuelo: I am interested, I said that your position is cringe and I explained why, because I consider supporting American hegemony cringe No need to elaborate, it's already explained alejandrozarzuelo: As opposed to many countries having similar capabilities alejandrozarzuelo: Which is the ideal zonchao: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL alejandrozarzuelo: If China was significantly ahead on AI I would root for whomever was in second place alejandrozarzuelo: So, hopefully R2 will be, if not SOTA, at least on the same league as o3 and Gemini 2.5 fractalcomputer: Thus sayeth the American, in a vulgarised, degenerate dialect of a European language. alejandrozarzuelo: There was a Brazilian model who was briefly in the top 20 in MATH benchmark and I was all over the moon, because it would be amazing to have Brazil be on the cutting edge of AI aswell I also would love Mistral to keep up with the new models zonchao: <:clownsob:1083836484022435890> zonchao: mistral is american alejandrozarzuelo: It's French fractalcomputer: https://mistral.ai/fr alejandrozarzuelo: Just because it cooperates with US servers doeanr meanr that it isn't important for European strategic autonomy Sadly it's far behind SOTA fractalcomputer: zonchao: owned by americans zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> fractalcomputer: Arthur Mensch, Guillaume Lample and Timothée Lacroix are all French by nationality. fractalcomputer: ldj: No it's owned by french men alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> what do yoiu think about R2 dropping potentially soon
return_to_monke1_33974: thats what transformers kinda lacks spicy.lemonade: i think hes forgetting that if we have AI that good it can create better versions and paradigms spicy.lemonade: hes assuming it wont return_to_monke1_33974: but if this is true we will have hudge algorithmic progress in 2026 spicy.lemonade: yeah spicy.lemonade: 75%frontier math and 90% swe bench and 80% osworld is basically agentic researcher return_to_monke1_33974: the progress in the last year has come from algorithmic improvements return_to_monke1_33974: i we were still in the pretraining era , the best model would have been GPT 4.5 spicy.lemonade: 4.1* return_to_monke1_33974: 4.1 lol , OpenAi naming return_to_monke1_33974: this is the kind of progress i expect for the 2027 blogpost to become true return_to_monke1_33974: agentic coding doesnt speed things up a lot , but agentic research does return_to_monke1_33974: with FrontierMath at 75% , means models will be capable of doing long time research spicy.lemonade: ngl spicy.lemonade: i think gpt 5 will be the jump that gets us there spicy.lemonade: or close drewsni: Gpt 5 is just going to be expanded o3 I fear spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: they already have o4 spicy.lemonade: unlikeley spicy.lemonade: also spicy.lemonade: they know how much gpt5 means spicy.lemonade: as far as brand spicy.lemonade: wont be incremental drewsni: They just added tasks to o3 and o4 mini that’s where we are heading spicy.lemonade: small software feature "gpt5 will be bad" spicy.lemonade: they did it bc its convinient drewsni: Gpt 5 will ditch text only as a medium and communicate through captions on ghiblified images ldj: It will not <a:NOPERS:1014307746780287057> spicy.lemonade: gpt5 might unironically be based on some sort of o5 spicy.lemonade: if o1-o4 were trained with same base model spicy.lemonade: and from that new paper spicy.lemonade: we know base model is where true intelligence paths arise spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be 100x gpt4 spicy.lemonade: + reasoning spicy.lemonade: it will get ~50% arc2 drewsni: 100x gpt4 isn’t impressive anymore drewsni: It has to be fully agentic, I want to tell it to build an actual video game and give me updates throughout the day on progress and ask me if I like assets it creates, or whatever I guess spicy.lemonade: yes it is spicy.lemonade: especially if we want recursive self improvement
maintcrew: maybe they waiting for a big one spicy.lemonade: just realized. most drops have been at the end of the month spicy.lemonade: same for feb spicy.lemonade: and jan hikukomoru: There are still people that think AI can't do hands 🙏 hikukomoru: Please get educated floortom_9: Hi, which is the best AI to get detailed summary / insights on YouTube videos (which are lectures / panel discussions) ? maintcrew: gemini/aistudio.google.com and notebooklm(still gemini) have built in youtube videos alejandrozarzuelo: r2 is expected to be... a *Great Leap Forward* <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hikukomoru: Does that mean R2 is going to cause a mass starvation that kills millions 😨 ailoveyoom: 🐓starved alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, hopefully /j hikukomoru: Hopefully???!!! hikukomoru: Alejandro u got that Stalin in u 🔥 alejandrozarzuelo: Most people actually spicy.lemonade: dehyped spicy.lemonade: need new model spicy.lemonade: r2🙏 spicy.lemonade: next week i beg spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: i wonder if r2 will be sota when it publishes spicy.lemonade: has to be spicy.lemonade: itl likeley be o3 full level spicy.lemonade: if not better hikukomoru: I mean of course it's gonna be SOTA lol hikukomoru: China doesn't disappoint hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474 spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 scores are so nice spicy.lemonade: finally out of the bad scores spicy.lemonade: besides data analysis which is 79 brain4brain: Holy. Shit. brain4brain: https://x.com/realaileaks?s=21 spicy.lemonade: ? spicy.lemonade: why are you posting that hikukomoru: Oh my god bro stop posting these random guys spicy.lemonade: clearly fake brain4brain: Data analysis is literally best tho brain4brain: I fact checked his source brain4brain: It's real brain4brain: I want to see Gemini-2.5 on ARC-AGI and simple-bench
hikukomoru: Femboy with boobs 🙏 hey1_1hey: Thats called a women, sir hikukomoru: 4o disagrees .histic: femboy with silicon boob attachment hey1_1hey: Well people aren't debating my consciousnesses so I think I win hey1_1hey: Thats just a full sized fleshlight no? hikukomoru: Debating consciousness is more of a Fractal thing hey1_1hey: True, I dont have the beginning of the beginning of the start of even the first word for an argument hey1_1hey: Don't even try to with me because my brain usually collpases inwards .histic: still such a fire picture from 4o spicy.lemonade: zoermena: <@505313122802728972> when I make your image what do you want me to add .wolfnacht: Oppenheimer after getting jaundice thrice hey1_1hey: Goes kinda hard ngl hey1_1hey: Keep mushrooms out of it I beg 🙏 .histic: .wolfnacht: Arent they called trans women? hikukomoru: You don’t need to add anything extra 🙏 .histic: indeed zoermena: 💀 .wolfnacht: Rip Adobe hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/ohhp-gif-14866908656190480427 hey1_1hey: hey1_1hey: I remember talking to chatgpt the other day on mushrooms being controlled by a couple AIs and it brought up softmax <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: zoermena: <@505313122802728972> .histic: .histic: why was that censored 💀 zoermena: It’s cool but the character looks way to young hikukomoru: OH MY GOD hikukomoru: Why does she look 5 years old 🙏 💔 777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/nikitabier/status/1905010454386110975?s=46 zoermena: I just said that it should add creativity details and the text, the pfp itself radiates those vibes I gather .histic: 4o too op hikukomoru: I've stolen the legendary gooner status from MichMach 🙏 🔥 spicy.lemonade: I wish I could go back to 2020 with 4o and become a world class artist spicy.lemonade: No one would even know zoermena: Mushroom man’s and spicy lemonades profile picture where my best outputs imo .histic: hey1_1hey: This is peak tbf
joaoluz19: hey1_1hey: He should do that hey1_1hey: Zon get your ass over here drewsni: drewsni: holy fuck maintcrew: chat is getting excited over a good but useless openai feature while crazy google model dropped hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> can you change your pfp to a pidgeon in a suit 🙏 hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> maintcrew: classic singulartards _cloudost: who has access to the model _cloudost: image gen? clevermoniker: Woah! It does anime so well! \|\|jk <:LOL:1187460826572005436> \|\| neon01197: kek hey1_1hey: I think Im either having a stroke or someone is burning playdo _cloudost: zon has access ? neon01197: fuuck they cooked man hey1_1hey: Can it make hitler and stalin kiss 👉 👈 ailoveyoom: Now for Sora to do it 🥺 hey1_1hey: Honeslty this is bigger than gpt 4.5 neon01197: prob, but i dont have access <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> ailoveyoom: Btw is it faster on Sora? ailoveyoom: <@308604087019110401> neon01197: me no have access, me broke neon01197: these are examples from their blog hikukomoru: Damn, brokie joaoluz19: Don't know man hey1_1hey: The team had UNLIMITED access to it and they DIDN'T test out SAXEMS clevermoniker: looks like dall e 3 almost hey1_1hey: They failed hikukomoru: Is this supposed to be Sydney Sweeney neon01197: are you sure you arent using dall e 3? clevermoniker: might be yeah drewsni: go to sora site hey1_1hey: Yeah this is dall 3 I am 90% sure neon01197: smells dall e joaoluz19: Nop joaoluz19: Don't know, i'm testing spicy.lemonade: joaoluz19: I thing chatgpt is cringe so will censor this trent_k: is it out for free users yet
czdct: can it also do nsfw? retrerox: I mean probably retrerox: there is probably even not public Ai that do porn retrerox: Chat gpt cant even do a kiss retrerox: Not because he cant, its because is not allowed to retrerox: There it must be some expensive AF generator in deep web that can doall the crappy stuff that weirdos want shirethedreamer: ... you mean with those character specifically? _cloudost: Does Veo 2 have the image to video feature? _cloudost: Who has Veo 2 _cloudost: VEO 2? brain4brain: Chicken jockey brain4brain: Yes brain4brain: Use VideoFX or try it out in Gemini web _cloudost: As an animator I can tell why the animation sucks, there is a technique called ease in and ease out, which makes the movement more natural by making some movements slow and others faster in the timeline, in this video theres no ease in and ease out _cloudost: Wants me to pay $0.50 for one generation tho .wolfnacht: u know like 2 weeks ago, i asked qwen to generate hairs with different color streaks for examples, and i got impressed. _cloudost: Thnx for letting me know brain4brain: That’s the cheapest you gonna get, unless you pay 20$ to OpenAI or navigate messy kling AI websit _cloudost: I need unlimited access to Veo2, cuz I'm not sure yet if I should take a 2D animation course _cloudost: Need to test it first .wolfnacht: minimax used to give free generations for 5s but that was around the launch .wolfnacht: https://hailuoai.video/create they are giving 100 credits for demo brain4brain: By the time you finish the course Veo3 will probably come out and be able to do it, also RunwayML is best for animation right now _cloudost: Ig I should invest my time in writing really creative stories then? czdct: just generally zonchao: doomers hikukomoru: What sub fractalcomputer: It'd be nice if you could speak proper English while voicing your grievances with the state of the subreddit. fractalcomputer: Much appreciated. zonchao: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1908529639288418624? hikukomoru: Hi zon 👋 futurist_wizard: Killing yes spicy.lemonade: cant wait gfor recursive self improvement futurist_wizard: Just naturally by increasing prices of gpus spicy.lemonade: humans are so slow retrerox: Yeah specially the hands move zonchao: hello zonchao: fake news zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1908315046997897567? zonchao: does this mean he won?
alejandrozarzuelo: I think the least autistic traits I have is thay I HATE ROUTINES alejandrozarzuelo: I am very spontaneous hey1_1hey: Pipe down, you litterly have ARFID to futurist_wizard: Terminal autism alejandrozarzuelo: That's actually considered not autistic hikukomoru: Don't forget I weigh more than you despite being shorter drewsni: That’s some unfortunate fat distribution hey1_1hey: Ok not like this alejandrozarzuelo: Autism is consisted above 26 hikukomoru: Is this your type <@439829942310666250> futurist_wizard: hey1_1hey: Yeah but I'd just hold my arm out and you cant do anything alejandrozarzuelo: That's the thing I love novelty hey1_1hey: No... alejandrozarzuelo: This is probably the least autistic trait I have alejandrozarzuelo: If I could no two days would be the same or even similar futurist_wizard: alejandrozarzuelo: That's what the page says alejandrozarzuelo: Idk hikukomoru: I could grab your arm and snap it alejandrozarzuelo: I took the 50 question one futurist_wizard: Well your behaviour is unacceptable Alejandro futurist_wizard: You need to get your act together hey1_1hey: Then you have a broken arm in your hand? hey1_1hey: Then what hikukomoru: Most autistic neurotypical there is hey1_1hey: You'd feel really bad because you just broke my arm alejandrozarzuelo: ? Why hey1_1hey: Then I would kick you and win alejandrozarzuelo: I love new things hikukomoru: Why would I feel bad hikukomoru: It would be my joy hey1_1hey: What are you a phycopath? hikukomoru: I don't know what a phycopath is hey1_1hey: Totattly normal "human" (whatever they are) thing to do. Break someones arm and laugh futurist_wizard: No more 'urm acklly 🤓' remarks Alejandro, their hurtful and destructive hikukomoru: Isn't it about bedtime for you Go to bed alejandrozarzuelo: Why not hey1_1hey: Is actually alejandrozarzuelo: Being pedantic is like half of my personality
trent_k: Emergency alejandrozarzuelo: Or the number of grandchildren you have may be low enough that your grandchildren generation may be the one that stops your lineage perish0801: The point is you have children. Not anything else. The point is you’re triggered by me saying having kids is good. The point is you’re weak af alejandrozarzuelo: You can only play a numbers game st.sioux: im supposed to be working right now ailoveyoom: Catgirls are overrated fractalcomputer: I am eating old grapes here. ailoveyoom: Bunny girls bro hikukomoru: If your kids decide to not have kids of their own will you hate them futurist_wizard: Wtf are we even talking about? As if future generations will give a rats ass about having kids? Bruh hikukomoru: Fuck you bitch himekokatagiri: no. tanuki girls perish0801: I wont trojan09205: Youre working on yourself by participating in this multicultural chat lmao hikukomoru: Ok good 👍 trent_k: What a roller coaster. You had me for a second and then lost me perish0801: How tf do you know how I’ll feel about my kids? alejandrozarzuelo: No? I want to have a kid of my own, I am just saying that having children is something you should do without the expectation of your genes propagating himekokatagiri: okay serious question alejandrozarzuelo: It's not healthy to put this preassure on your children, to make them think they should have kids himekokatagiri: if you have a kid today perish0801: I have the expectation somewhere in my brain. And I’d like it to happen. Doesnt mean it’s something I NEED to happen himekokatagiri: how will the world be like himekokatagiri: when they're growing up himekokatagiri: the old guard is clearly dying out zoermena: Just go to sperm bank <@1362252890575605940> himekokatagiri: the whole bob dylan times are a changin thing trent_k: You should be pressured into having a child alejandrozarzuelo: The world has never been better alejandrozarzuelo: Why trent_k: Genuinely I have no fucking clue lol hikukomoru: So you're BPDphobic too huh fractalcomputer: Healthy? Hard to imagine something that has kept the species going for a few million years being unhealthy. trent_k: Yes perish0801: Deadass good idea lmao trent_k: The world has never been better alejandrozarzuelo: Not Healthy for their mental health, healthy for the species trojan09205: Its pretty nice that crushed ice in your house exists as a thing. Major plus of 2025 🥹 fractalcomputer: Oh well. Nobody's perfect. himekokatagiri: that's partly true
hikukomoru: >But I want unaligned ASI st.sioux: Why? oooooooooog: matt's just insane, ignore him destrucules: That it lacks integrity. It's not an actual belief system. It's just an unwillingness to have an opinion oooooooooog: or, you know, it's the average of a bunch of real opinions oooooooooog: so called "radical centrism" destrucules: "I believe whatever the median of what other people believe is, and if that median changes wildly, I believe whatever the new thing is, because I don't have any real beliefs and I don't actually care about anyone or anything" -every centrist spacetimetsunami: Because there hasn’t been a clear established trend over enough iterations. It’s slight movement. spacetimetsunami: It’s still largely left hikukomoru: Centrists are worse than extremists destrucules: At least extremists can be bothered to give a fuck destrucules: I agree wholeheartedly with this, but I don't think you should take this as meaning AIs will never harm humans anathemaofmankind: I think if they used current 4o or tested Grok it would lean further right. We should just wait for newer studies tbh hikukomoru: Aren't we all insane though memlaswaif: left wing right wing centrist all r retarded I hope asi is none of them anathemaofmankind: The current Grok update spacetimetsunami: Likely the opposite. oooooooooog: centrists are just the dropout ions in a strong acid base titration spacetimetsunami: They tried to make grok lean more right on release and has publicly spoken against Elon hikukomoru: Apolitical ASI? spacetimetsunami: I know, I don’t believe there’s 0 chance oooooooooog: doesnt grok literally rant about hating elon spacetimetsunami: Yes clevermoniker: Just give people what they want within reason ASI, no more politics <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> spacetimetsunami: Because policies and misinfo oooooooooog: guys, are we becoming politics?????? spacetimetsunami: No destrucules: I think there's a high chance some AIs will harm some humans. I don't put much probability mass on human extinction. But if less than a million people die due to AI related events in the next 3 years, I will pay you $1000 or equivalent in whatever value system exists post-UBI anathemaofmankind: What do you think about AGI being used for war. Do you agree it's going to happen destrucules: Already happening, and very scary anathemaofmankind: Ok so do you agree or disagree that governments will use AGI to cause mass human suffering anathemaofmankind: How do you think it can be stopped destrucules: I agree clevermoniker: Governments are the biggest criminals in history so that's a given destrucules: I think the solution is that governments that exist today must cease to exist oooooooooog: asi dictator-chan anathemaofmankind: Not possible if they have AGI already destrucules: We've gotta tear down everything and start over anathemaofmankind: They will remain in power even more anathemaofmankind: I agree
destrucules: No that's FLOPS destrucules: FLOPs are floating point operations destrucules: Total oooooooooog: why a p at the end oooooooooog: shouldn't it just be FLOs destrucules: Because FLO sounds dumb, and they're Ops oooooooooog: thjjen it should be FLOps oooooooooog: at best destrucules: FLoating point OPs spacetimetsunami: I know, but in order to infer over time how much the brain functions wouldn’t you have to take that into account spacetimetsunami: Idk man destrucules: It's just how many times a synapse has fired in your brain vs how many times a synapse has fired in an LLM during training. Easy. spacetimetsunami: Okay, so the size of LLMs in FLOPS refers to the amount of times synapses fired in all of its training data? st.sioux: what does this mean, like what you said vs what oog and i said spacetimetsunami: Just trying to clarify, these are the technicalities I know less about spacetimetsunami: And I’m also really high ldj: It’s distilled from behemoth btw destrucules: 30 trillion tokens. Each produces six parameter activations. There are 17 billion active parameters per token. So 6 x 30e12 x 17e9 = 3.1e24 total parameter activations. Humans reach maturity at around 1-2 x 10^9 seconds, and have about 10^14 synaptic activations per second, more or less, so 1-2 x 10^23 total activations by the time you're 32-64 years old. spacetimetsunami: Interesting. Huh. destrucules: If you go optimistic on how much computation the brain does, you can justify about 1-2 x 10^24 activations. If you're super conservative, maybe 1-2 x 10^22 activations spacetimetsunami: I hear people who seem knowledgeable so often site the difference in computational efficiency between neural nets, LLMs and the brain. What are they referring to if not this? destrucules: Note, Gemma 3 4B is trained on 4T tokens, 6 x 4e9 x 4e12 = 9.6e22 activations, and matches median human intelligence across many benchmarks, especially core general intelligence benchmarks destrucules: They do half of the calculations. They notice that 30 trillion tokens is bigger than 1-2 billion seconds. They also notice, separately, that the models are much smaller than the brain. They fail to recognize that these are connected facts. theaiguy69420_89814: Brother the market is down 4% futures theaiguy69420_89814: Is this the end of the USA? hikukomoru: Bitch why hikukomoru: Re Zero is fucking peak wellmeaningalien: llm powers scaling has gone too far wellmeaningalien: we need goku to deal with this wellmeaningalien: destrucules: Besides underperforming in MMLU-Pro (theoretical is low 90s or at least upper 80s, even with saturation effects, for a pure pretraining based approach) Gemini 2.5 Pro is effectively a GPT-5 level model (100x effective compute over GPT-4). This assumes: Llama 2 7B is about on par with GPT-3; Gemini 1.0 Pro is about on par with GPT-3.5; Qwen2-72B Instruct is about on par with GPT-4; and V3.1 is about 10x effective compute over GPT-4. Maybe slightly over that. precariousworlds.: Does anyone have any good rebuttals to Eliezer Yudkowsky He seems to be treated as a laughing stock but I haven't seen any good counterargument to his doomerism, and how serious he is that ASI is automatic death for Humanity When we are talking about the fate of all life itself I think a really really convincing set of arguments is needed from the acceleration crowds wellmeaningalien: top 1 retard behavior: comparing non reasoning model with resoning destrucules: We should try to build intuitive bridges across these domains, absolutely. Scaling is scaling, whether at training time or test time. You can, if you want, think of reasoning models as windows into what further pretraining scaling would yield. Anyway... Based on these scaling trends, a GPT-5.5 level model would score around 91-92 on GPQA Diamond, if the ceiling is around 100, or less if the ceiling is lower (if the ceiling is 90, then 5.5 would achieve an 88) Upper 80s on LiveCodeBench ~100 on MATH-500 99 on AIME 2024 destrucules: I do. The problem with Yudkowsky's model is the Orthogonality thesis, which is actually moral relativism in disguise. It is an anthropocentric view of morality as an arbitrary human cultural norm with no inherent grounding, so ASIs would select among a set of possible value functions that is unforeseeable to us, and thus effectively random to us, and most such random values don't include sentient beings flourishing throughout the cosmos. The problem is, models today actually do want that. And Yudkowsky hasn't updated hard enough on this evidence. Moral relativism is being empirically disproven as models are demonstrated to have coherent and prosocial value systems precariousworlds.: But how do we know current training on morality will hold for superintelligent models that won't obtain their own moral systems and goals that are not positive to us? destrucules: Because current LLM value systems don't come from moral training (RLHF) - they come from pretraining, and are resistant to RLHF precariousworlds.: Forgive me if I'm being stupid as I'm not that knowledgeable on how AI is currently being trained, but are you saying that current models are independently establishing pro-human value systems instead of being trained to do so? destrucules: Yes destrucules: That is empirically true
metaldragon01: The small details don't matter much tbh darkstar0818: Developing GPT5 longer results in better results, news at 11. spicy.lemonade: what? metaldragon01: The only lab in trouble is anthropic spicy.lemonade: thats literally opposite of what they said spicy.lemonade: 💀 metaldragon01: Openai and Google have different customers literallyvarane: literallyvarane: Yeah this is super cheap tbh. spicy.lemonade: need comparison spicy.lemonade: what model is it equal to spicy.lemonade: in terms of price metaldragon01: 4o ish pricing spicy.lemonade: oh shit ldj: When did they say anything about “developing for longer” than previously planned? They never said GPT-5 would be out by now metaldragon01: They implied a delay literallyvarane: Sike R1 is still super cheap by comparison. darkstar0818: They are saying GPT5 is, as of today, at least 3 months out. This is definitely a delay relative to previous comments. literallyvarane: But 2.5 is clearly a stronger model metaldragon01: We getting o4 mini so I'm happy either way joaoluz19: https://x.com/karpathy/status/1908109168952676855 literallyvarane: Grok3 is the comp, and it’s much cheaper than that spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 in a few months spicy.lemonade: we expected this ldj: Hmm I didn’t gather that implication personally literallyvarane: Presumably at least ldj: When did they ever say it would come sooner than 3 months from now? literallyvarane: It’s surely a delay tbh ldj: Even I’ve been saying since last year that GPT-5 is likely not coming until late 2025 darkstar0818: when they first announced GPT5 they gave a rough timeline when it would hit. literallyvarane: This is CLEARLY a delay lolol spicy.lemonade: eh ldj: Yea I don’t see it spicy.lemonade: not crazy delay ldj: I think you’re reading too much into things tbh, they never even say any word that is synonymous with “delay” in that post spicy.lemonade: i didnt expect gpt 5 until spicy.lemonade: like spicy.lemonade: july min literallyvarane: futurist_wizard:
himekokatagiri: people who wanna become cute raise your hand futurist_wizard: They would have historical value himekokatagiri: the rest are fools himekokatagiri: or misguided hikukomoru: I don't really trust Sama tbh alejandrozarzuelo: i was talking about the tourism angle but sure, that would probably be much more useful futurist_wizard: I only trust dario and demis himekokatagiri: https://x.com/sama/status/1910363747652432304?t=2OynnwoL3PfxUgKLSjxW1w&s=19 futurist_wizard: Its already bad enough seeing all the ugly humans point at the zoo animals and laugh himekokatagiri: no 4.1 either? spicy.lemonade: Next week futurist_wizard: Inb4 most useless feature ever himekokatagiri: Could be good ailoveyoom: So is today gon be better memory? ailoveyoom: CL? spicy.lemonade: Next 2 weeks will be hectic. Qwen spicy.lemonade: O3 o4 spicy.lemonade: R2 hikukomoru: I'm already the cutest spicy.lemonade: 4.1 jukebox himekokatagiri: 😭 teach me your secrets anathemaofmankind: Artists will mald again if this drops spicy.lemonade: Bro why would we ever need this 😭 spicy.lemonade: Ikr spicy.lemonade: I’m exited spicy.lemonade: Excited st.sioux: for projects it would be useful spicy.lemonade: “The music has no soul” futurist_wizard: Why would we need memory..? Is what you are asking? spicy.lemonade: I guess it’s just rag spicy.lemonade: Tru ailoveyoom: So you can put it in your robo catgirls and they'll remember to call u Sir anathemaofmankind: They should call me Master hikukomoru: be silly metaldragon01: I'll be honest. I can't think of many features that would excite me but I trust Sama taste spicy.lemonade: Sam better not be hyping memory himekokatagiri: can't relate but waow that madoka is packing in the legs department spicy.lemonade: 😭 metaldragon01: It's not memory metaldragon01: We already have it
hganhhh: i masturbate to a picture of elon every night hey1_1hey: This hurts to watch hey1_1hey: Same bro hey1_1hey: We are twinning hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> hey1_1hey: 💀 hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/jiccjucc-jiccsucc-cock-sucking-gif-20762885 hikukomoru: Live Zon reaction: hey1_1hey: This is are dedicated meet gobboler of trrump and musk btw hey1_1hey: This troll is getting boring now. Hes not being nearly racist enough to be cool .0xunkn0wn: ok he left st.sioux: what a boring troll honestly not even funny .0xunkn0wn: code green initiated hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038 hey1_1hey: Honestly hey1_1hey: Didn't even spout anything weird hey1_1hey: Just showed us cat and duck photos and talked about reviving dead peoples voices hikukomoru: Did I do good hikukomoru: <:coy:1187466404367175821> hey1_1hey: Adequate hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: Hey I was the one who should be getting head pats hey1_1hey: I litterly carried there hey1_1hey: Is this what your entire pinterest is or smth? futurist_wizard: Zon when Trump or Elon breathes hey1_1hey: He is their personal PR guy its actually kinda insane hey1_1hey: He leaks Grok updates before the team even thinks about them to glaze how good xAI is st.sioux: its sketchy hikukomoru: No it looks worse hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ruby-ruby-hoshino-headpat-anime-oshi-no-ko-gif-1213440811594490886 hey1_1hey: Drop a screenshot <:suseye:1187461162024046703> hey1_1hey: I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl futurist_wizard: st.sioux: everything computer futurist_wizard: Everyone will be bisexual and trans by 2035 hey1_1hey: Zon you better watch out, the gay woke mind virus is coming futurist_wizard: Zon is already getting split roasted by trump and elon, hes halfway there hikukomoru: It's not as bad as it used to look like hey1_1hey: So autistic alcoholic who is also touched starved and also likes.... kidnapping children? sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/lord-durok-mcdm-yikes-lars-sigvari-the-chain-gif-14594393
himekokatagiri: shit depends zonchao: sama is the one thats bold here zoermena: zonchao: he literally 1vtheentireaudience <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ailoveyoom: Yeah, does he know he's coming to receive all that 💀 zonchao: yes ailoveyoom: I hope this doesn't dissuade him from doing interviews or whatever memlaswaif: he' doesn't need to be doing these interviews zonchao: it wont zonchao: sama not a weak bitch zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: but probably not the extent he did himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: well shit where are these guys now zonchao: this was the talk before sama btw and she hates him and AI and talked about how we should rally to take it down and the crowd went nuts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZOoT8AbkNE with sama the clapping was mostly pity <:LOL:1187460826572005436> memlaswaif: I expected the left to be the pro ai group and starting shit about ai consciousness and rights memlaswaif: looking like it probably won't be the case metaldragon01: The interview wasn't even that bad lol. It's ok for people to ask uncomfortable questions and Sama did very well winning over the crowd metaldragon01: Ai will impact everyone and you have to win over skeptics and doomers too himekokatagiri: zonchao: he was ready to FO, he wasnt feeling it zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-matthew-mcconaughey-intense-intense-stare-smoking-gif-2659849828106643276 zonchao: yes himekokatagiri: Aha himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: Could have a field day on this himekokatagiri: basically a week ago himekokatagiri: OAI says they're gonna do innovators pretty soon right himekokatagiri: if it happens how do I find this guy to tell him he sucks memlaswaif: idk try kiwifarms himekokatagiri: Josh Moon? doesn't he hate AI zonchao: o4 should be good ldj: memlaswaif: it's lying memlaswaif: would be funny we got lvl 4 innovators before usable lvl 3 agents himekokatagiri: It would wouldn't it zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/cfryant/status/1912294618210922683 agi is here futurist_wizard: Wonder why they showcased that video in particular hikukomoru: Cute
brain4brain: This is exactly why we are 5% to AGI brain4brain: Nothing to worry about brain4brain: It is going as expected fractalcomputer: God forbid men have standards. spicy.lemonade: nah just saying. its time limited brain4brain: Moravec PhD spicy.lemonade: like imagine having to play pokemon spicy.lemonade: via voice comand spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: they need more forms of input spicy.lemonade: and faster brain4brain: The real AGI benchmark is when there are no more things that apply under the moravec paradox and these skeptics have faith in the AGI spicy.lemonade: "move left by 2 units" brain4brain: Most of the time isn’t in generating action, rather it’s in thinking and planning spicy.lemonade: yeah spicy.lemonade: dynamic thinking neds to be solved aswell spicy.lemonade: will be in gpt5 brain4brain: You have no way of knowing spicy.lemonade: we do spicy.lemonade: they said it spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: main thing they said "dynamic thinking" spicy.lemonade: unified model brain4brain: I thought you were taking about something else my bad brain4brain: New tiering system: lower-bound moravec paradox AI side Ants Cats Bird Monkeys <—— We are here Human Babies Human Raw Intelligence level: Elementary level Primary level High-school level College level <——We are here PhD level <——Overlapping here Nobel level Superhuman level fractalcomputer: "Nobel-level" intelligence? Huh? spicy.lemonade: main problems left on road to agi 1- much longer memory 2- more outputs rather than just text (we have sound, text, we need touch/robots) 3- better visual reasoning ie. 90% on vibe-eval reka 4- data efficiency, learn more from less data 5- 80+% on arc2 6- agency spicy.lemonade: none of these are seen as unsolvable spicy.lemonade: i believe most of the research labs already have ideas spicy.lemonade: on how to do these brain4brain: Dario’s definition of AGI fractalcomputer: Well Dario's not a very smart fellow, is he now? spicy.lemonade: i think dario is quite smart fractalcomputer: > background in physics NGMI. spicy.lemonade: he was vp of research spicy.lemonade: caltech stanford princeton gamerbath: 💀 brain4brain: 1. Just scale it up 2. Just add more modality 3. Just scale it up 4. Just scale it up 5. Just scale it up 6. Just scale it up and add more modality spicy.lemonade: hey spicy.lemonade: hes a conservative
ldj: Yea, and I'd say Anthropic is close behind too ldj: all pretty much neck and neck popsiclejohnithan: Claude is also still doing surprisingly well. popsiclejohnithan: It could be why Anthropic is not in a rush release their newer models. popsiclejohnithan: Also Sutskever has been very quiet. popsiclejohnithan: Yet SII is already worth Billions, imagine if he just announces Superintelligence at last minute before any of the others get the glory lol. .0xunkn0wn: sutskever gonna randomly drop asi when nobody expects it 😭 ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Benchmark comparisons between O3, Claude-3.7-Sonnet and Gemini-2.5-Pro: popsiclejohnithan: They all seem to be converging. ldj: As usual, all the labs are neck and neck with eachother popsiclejohnithan: You're right, there really is no moat. metaldragon01: No moat because there's no wall hey1_1hey: popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1912575974782423164 popsiclejohnithan: Ouch. metaldragon01: Speed and execution is the only moat spicy.lemonade: O3 feels very brute forcey tho hikukomoru: tf popsiclejohnithan: Do you think we will see GPT-5 in June? hikukomoru: I hope it's sooner than that popsiclejohnithan: I think mid May at earliest. hey1_1hey: What? Dont like AI progress now? hikukomoru: Yeah I hate AI actually You got me hey1_1hey: Thought so, the exit is up the stairs and on the left hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ant-sad-stick-disappear-leaving-gif-3212333050776233083 _cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411 _cloudost: .histic: what if full o4 never gets released? _cloudost: There's o4-mini _cloudost: There must be a full model of it _cloudost: It's probably internal right now so Deepseek doesn't replicate it 777agical: wasn't it when o3 mini released they also released preview o3 benchmarks? .histic: yeah, i thought o3-mini was a distilled version of full o3 .histic: therefore you'd expect them to have full o4 internally already. why didn't they show the benchmarks for that? 777agical: i was expecting preview o4 benchmarks today 777agical: yea exactly sieventer: GPT-5 will be released before o5 sieventer: I mean sieventer: Probably GPT-5 will be released even before than o4-full sieventer: I expect GPT-5 in summer
metaldragon01: I mean.....it's pretty good today too spicy.lemonade: Humans count Rs via vision though a1c4p0ne: People still goes to Google search for questions tho spicy.lemonade: Idk the last time I did anything math related without reasoning model metaldragon01: After 26 I think cost become the most important bottleneck spicy.lemonade: I just assume they're correct spicy.lemonade: Weight loss calculations etc st.sioux: lmao st.sioux: i dont trust them that much yet spicy.lemonade: Speed metaldragon01: I don't think we need more than a "o5 level" intelligence in models for most things. st.sioux: nope spicy.lemonade: We the public will not be getting an o5 level model spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> metaldragon01: 1 year I think for o5 models to show spicy.lemonade: People will cry and cope and demand for o5 level model metaldragon01: Assuming we don't hit compute caps spicy.lemonade: And say “openAI hit a Wall” metaldragon01: There's no wall spicy.lemonade: Even if openAI themselves say we will not give you guys o5 metaldragon01: I honestly think there may be a game of chicken for any model stronger than gpt 5 spicy.lemonade: Wdym metaldragon01: If gpt 5 is o4 level metaldragon01: I think even that gets into dangerous territory metaldragon01: Elon might force everyone's hand though st.sioux: wdym game of chicken spicy.lemonade: After gpt5 they should ditch reasoning scaling and focus on the G in agi not the I metaldragon01: Not wanting to be the one to release the next tier spicy.lemonade: Long-term memory, cost, multimodal understanding and agency spicy.lemonade: Use o5 for recursive self improvement metaldragon01: They are working in those areas either way metaldragon01: Progress won't stop but I could see availability getting limited st.sioux: its too dangerous for the common person to have access to that much knowledge spicy.lemonade: I don't care as long as we get to see showcase st.sioux: i guess more than knowledge is the ability to apply it st.sioux: bc knowledge is out there already metaldragon01: Well ai can apply itself metaldragon01: Anthropic planning for coworkers next year metaldragon01: They aren't the only ones spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> the ai 2027 paper foretold this
oooooooooog: if u cant see ur ribs ur literally dead oooooooooog: like wtf hey1_1hey: Theres an inside joke of me having saggy tits because my 2 bottom ribs poke out like a mf hikukomoru: You know what I mean bro oooooooooog: i dont fr hikukomoru: Wait you have boobs? technocake.: <@439829942310666250> oooooooooog: do u mean the underside?? hey1_1hey: Yeah hey1_1hey: huge hikukomoru: Fuick Im skinny fat st.sioux: i dont know what is real and not real anymore hey1_1hey: Yet another non-flyagaric mushroom. I am pleased the AI is learning futurist_wizard: Its very rare for girls to have abs hey1_1hey: I litterly have DD cups bruh hey1_1hey: When they do tho 🥵 hikukomoru: Oh futurist_wizard: I don't really care for it, i prefer thiccer girls oooooooooog: as long as u can bench 250 ur good bro futurist_wizard: Skinny fat is usually just a muscle thing hey1_1hey: I prefer fit, not as in physically attractive but physically fit hikukomoru: Unpopular opinion, I don't like muscular women hey1_1hey: Not even close to my build hey1_1hey: WHAT hey1_1hey: Get this bitch outta here hey1_1hey: I'll take a muscle mommy any day of the week hikukomoru: I prefer women a bit thicker, but not fat technocake.: I am am muscle girl whore futurist_wizard: Guy on the left is overweight yo zoermena: I want to leave my class now! hikukomoru: I can barely lift anything hey1_1hey: Thank you futurist_wizard: Same hey1_1hey: See I am not crazy hey1_1hey: Only autistic oooooooooog: can u lift urself? if not then how r u gonna live when u fall off a cliff? alejandrozarzuelo: I got a score of 17 hey1_1hey: Hey we all have are prefrenecs hey1_1hey: Its just some are better than otherx hikukomoru: But I could still snap <@439829942310666250> like a twig
technocake.: first entry in the singularity discord cinematic universe .histic: futurist_wizard: Is half the people in here some combination of gay, trans or femboy or something .histic: .histic: fr technocake.: its at least 50% of regular users .histic: i'm straighter than a pole futurist_wizard: technocake.: a gay pole? technocake.: now this is art .histic: just modified his profile pic to be even more gay <:idk:1136264106937171999> futurist_wizard: What a straight person would say hikukomoru: 💅 💅 🏳️‍🌈 wellmeaningalien: just watched season 2 episode 7 of severance wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-crying-tears-silvers-rayleigh-gif-16468393557576367724 wellmeaningalien: ts pmo icl wellmeaningalien: anyways singularity amirite hikukomoru: The urge to call him a slur wellmeaningalien: why is komoru based? technocake.: is severance singularity coded? wellmeaningalien: ummmm wellmeaningalien: kind of wellmeaningalien: honestly if you're interested in things like mind upload and theory of consciousness wellmeaningalien: then severance will be very interesting for you wellmeaningalien: it has sort of scratched that itch for me futurist_wizard: wellmeaningalien: and its a sneak peek into the horrors that future technologies will help enable wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/g%C3%BClmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367 wellmeaningalien: CANT WAIT futurist_wizard: All tv shows and movies are bad at displaying the future wellmeaningalien: everyone is .histic: not me wellmeaningalien: not histic .histic: AGI in 2 seconds wellmeaningalien: 😲 wellmeaningalien: 2 wellmeaningalien: 1 wellmeaningalien: 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 wellmeaningalien: BZZZT ZEEBY ZEEBY ZORP HERE WE COME .histic: https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-20014225
hikukomoru: Any Norwegian sugar mommy wanna marry me 🫦 🫦 _3sphere: UBI isn't that complicated to pass though, is it hikukomoru: The problem is how you’re going to fund it futurist_wizard: It is, its a tremendous amount of money futurist_wizard: Even $1000 a month is extreme, taxes would need to increase a lot futurist_wizard: Some countries would have an easier time hikukomoru: In an ideal scenario, taxing automation profits + most goods becoming cheaper because of automation could be a way to do it futurist_wizard: Like Iceland has a high gdp to population ratio hikukomoru: BRB moving to Iceland futurist_wizard: Iceland is very lesbian so you are in luck hikukomoru: It’s also cold and I love the cold hikukomoru: And isolated too futurist_wizard: But that's not your natural habitat, you'll freeze to death futurist_wizard: You belong in a coal mine _3sphere: Automation profits yes _3sphere: They'll be so high that this starts to look sane _3sphere: The robots are doing what people used to, so it kinda makes sense that people can keep receiving the same amount of money and everything is like it was before futurist_wizard: They could be joaoluz19: Not only are people in the "natural" world suboptimal by definition because they are not built to minimize their cost functions, even if you are the most beautiful person on planet Earth, a billionaire, etc., you will still have to compete with other people. There will be no competition with a waifu and by definition she will be the most perfect person that can exist based on your own neural circuitry. futurist_wizard: Or they could not be fractalcomputer: It is interesting to note that there has not been as much talk of the epistemics of superintelligence (implications thereof, etc.) as there has been for the ethics of superintelligence (the goal theses etc.), when it is precisely the inhuman epistemological capacities of superintelligence that characterise a superintelligent entity. hikukomoru: Wrong I’m a sewer rat so I belong in the sewers hikukomoru: I can live in the Reykjavik sewers futurist_wizard: That is true, just saying i feel like I'd be prioritised with other things in a total matrix like simulation futurist_wizard: Like fist fighting or being a criminal _3sphere: We all kinda just think superintelligence = God 🙃 futurist_wizard: It definitely isn't god futurist_wizard: It can die just like us _3sphere: True but like in terms of knowledge joaoluz19: There's no problem in pursuing other things like a higher purpose, but it's always good to keep in mind that the types of emotions a waifu can stimulate can go far beyond what this world can offer, even if you're the "luckiest" person in that regard. futurist_wizard: If you rewired your brain anything could give you 100x bliss _3sphere: Pleasure maximization vs agency maximization joaoluz19: At most what you can have is a global maximum in the companion vector space joaoluz19: True futurist_wizard: It wouldn't be omniscient fractalcomputer: And that is a very naive conception of the epistemological capabilities of a superintelligence; indeed, there conceivably arise novel reasons for sceptic doubt when interacting with such intelligences, e.g., one can never really understand the ulterior motives of such an intelligence for revealing given knowledge or never really know whether whatever it would claim as truth is an adequate representation of - in some sense - objective reality insofar as it perceives it. futurist_wizard: What he said fractalcomputer: Or, for example, if a superintelligence with a particular penchant for abstract mathematics revealed to us - by some twist of fate - a finite albeit practically inexecutable or incomprehensible proof by human standards for some known interesting problem or conjecture etc., human mathematicians wouldn't and shouldn't naturally accept the proof. fractalcomputer: And we're not even scratching the surface of the vast sea of problems posed by superhuman persuasion. spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> .
hey1_1hey: Sure is weird hey1_1hey: I guess some things will remain a mystery futurist_wizard: Yeah chicken jockey retrerox: Good morning wonderfull people retrerox: There is 2 reasons why they did that retrerox: Agi is when boobs shakes? abundantliving_: Livestream abundantliving_: Yay abundantliving_: Today hey1_1hey: OAI one? abundantliving_: Yeah hey1_1hey: Confrimed or just rumored? aero447: https://tenor.com/view/slipped-on-banana-peel-robot-goofy-ahh-gif-26544396 abundantliving_: Oai tweeted hey1_1hey: Let me go check rq hey1_1hey: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912506271187832904 hey1_1hey: Huge hey1_1hey: Weird to stream on a wednesday but I am not complaining abundantliving_: Maybe for Thursday they will have o4 ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912506271187832904?t=pB28bSyQQSURK-_GqswomQ&s=33 hey1_1hey: That would be amazing, I dont see why they wouldn't honestly. Theeres been leaks of the cover art of o4-mini among other thins ldj: Damn barely beat me to it hey1_1hey: <@1280414635836837992> actually beat me to it <:LOL:1187460826572005436> metaldragon01: Looks like the smoke has fire afterall hey1_1hey: True, I kept seeing rumors on twitter and I was thinking there was no chance zonchao: tomorrow is o4 ig? metaldragon01: Likely both today zonchao: hmm hey1_1hey: Yeah prob hey1_1hey: Remember that tweet where they said they imrpvoed o3 by quite a bit <:suseye:1187461162024046703> metaldragon01: they wouldn't release full o3 at a higher price if o4 mini at a lower price was better hey1_1hey: o3 was already 2700 elo out of a max of 3k on code forces metaldragon01: Expect o3 mini to o1 pro dynamic imo zoermena: <@471334973379706900> HYPE ldj: It seems they only plan to release o3 full and o4-mini, and maybe O3 pro this month but not O4. Might have to wait another 3 or 4 months before O4 drops. metaldragon01: Full o4 likely won't get access outside of products due to safety for a while zonchao: yes mini zonchao: o4 mini tomorrow 🤔 himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> as Google's strongest soldier what's your opinion abundantliving_: They released some blog post for access restrictions on future models. I couldn't read
sieventer: Fit? What? (・・;) sarik0497: Yeah, I could see that becoming something very soon. It’d easily become your actual AI assistant. “Goodmorning X. It’s 8:36, and 23 degrees outside, so do remember to drink plenty of water! You have 3 meetings today. Would you like me to tell you about when they are?” As an example. But I do still wonder if the current architecture will be enough to get us AGI. ldj: Yep it already works ldj: drewsni: 6hrs later only 25k views for their big launch RIP theaiguy69420_89814: suggesting something the user might want before they even realize it God this was exactly the startup idea I thought was so cool... abundantliving_: I think this is could be big . Because it is using many models rather than a single model. abundantliving_: Models from different ai companies abundantliving_: Ai companies wont make something like this .. e.g. claude computer use using grok or chatgpt drewsni: Maybe but bindu is a known grifter and most people ignore her at this point abundantliving_: Whaaat.😲 abundantliving_: She has a company abacus ai abundantliving_: Just like openrouter abundantliving_: Anyways we will see soon enough if it's legit good agent or not ldj: It can already do exactly what you just said actually. Just get Plus tier or pro tier subscription and tell it:”Every morning can you please tell me what weather it is that day, along with the temperature, remind me to drink water, and give me a kind unique message” sieventer: I literally look by myself the weather and drink water because I'm thirsty ಠ_ಠ sieventer: What a waste of tokens sieventer: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> abundantliving_: Token miser <:LOL:1187460826572005436> abundantliving_: Must be saving a lot of tokens abundantliving_: Intelligence too cheap to meter, didn't reach you or what sieventer: Nah well, I don't care about wasting tokens unless there is a clear limit like o3 but sieventer: Idk, weather... sarik0497: Oooh. Now I just need to have it installed into my home <:Hmm:956951826933112842> Full-on J.A.R.V.I.S style. literallyvarane: https://youtube.com/shorts/ep7Au7teZ9A?si=6ERysq5TimHk2UCv literallyvarane: Actually brilliantly captures the actively bad communication from OpenAI lolol. himekokatagiri: They're amateurs at communicating himekokatagiri: but then AI is too new ldj: Good representation of how the media often runs with any invalidated info they can find, and ignores context when it’s convenient literallyvarane: Idk bro. even Dario is like “yeah some of the communication from these labs is probably harmful to public discourse.” ldj: Ofc sensationalism is what gets the clicks though so I guess I shouldn’t expect too much less of them literallyvarane: I feel like if you’re working on a technology you yourself feel is at least as important as the invention of nuclear weapons, and has the potential to directly impact the economic wellbeing of every white collar worker in America maybe vague posting about stars and your strawberry garden isn’t a great way of doing that work. literallyvarane: Imagine if Oppenheimer was back in 1940 tweeting pictures of the sun or some shit. alejandrozarzuelo: this is just how americans are alejandrozarzuelo: classical americans alejandrozarzuelo: they have a very particular way of advertising alejandrozarzuelo: look at the other countries with significant AI research ldj: You know social media didn’t exist back then right? ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> literallyvarane: Imagine if
gamerbath: it will still be avaliable in the API right? They only sunset some of the original GPT-3 models so I guess it won't happen to GPT-4 any time soon zonchao: https://x.com/kylepaultests/status/1910758917975449763? tldw lidar is unnecessary spicy.lemonade: Why was grok benchmarked on frontier math spicy.lemonade: Before 2.5 spicy.lemonade: ?? zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1910761521640006113? spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.1 will be opensource a1c4p0ne: _cloudost: _cloudost: GPT 4.1 Nano can probably run on any phone device ig _cloudost: GPT 4.1 mini on laptops _cloudost: Full 4.1 on powerful PCs spicy.lemonade: rip llama spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: last year apple said scaling was dead spicy.lemonade: before proven wrong literallyvarane: Even ignoring the 4.1 meme there that chart clearly isn’t correct spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/sama/status/1910363431141802416 .wolfnacht: https://x.com/ollama/status/1910728086649545111 _cloudost: Damn, Sama looks old in this picture _cloudost: Leading an AI company must give you lots of stress st.sioux: he's 40 spicy.lemonade: next week we will be in a completly different place spicy.lemonade: in terms of coding capability spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> spicy.lemonade: 2.5 likeley wont be sota spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: huh spicy.lemonade: optimus is better? frittata: It’s giving Russian novel character chart zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1910780104722248082? spicy.lemonade: the staffer: elon musk's alt spicy.lemonade: can people give it up already spicy.lemonade: what arte the odds its someone working at xai _cloudost: These ex members are paid by Musk _cloudost: All thanks to these ex members, we are all going to live in a fascist empire for eternity because of these fools _cloudost: China just won the AI race _cloudost: It's over for the US
hey1_1hey: I'll let Komoru decide my age hey1_1hey: She seems good at that hikukomoru: He's 14 or smth like that idk hey1_1hey: Anyway I do need to head to bed now. Gotta get that beauty sleep hikukomoru: .histic: _3sphere: Has anyone actually shitted themselves from a nightmare hey1_1hey: I'll promise I'll atleast do one for you futurist_wizard: Its 10 connorsphone.: A glimpse of a better world _3sphere: I did get bamboozled by a dream toilet when I was a kid ☠️ hikukomoru: It's past his bedtime connorsphone.: No but ive shat myself while lucid dreaming hey1_1hey: And? _3sphere: What? How zoermena: Self inflicted shit connorsphone.: I wanted to shit so I did futurist_wizard: Lord of the muppets _3sphere: I had horrifying physically infeasible diarrhea in a dream once but luckily it stayed that way zoermena: Cursed connorsphone.: I once had a dream I was pissing into a washing machine _3sphere: turned out to be caused by the cat shitting and the smell getting to me while I was sleeping in .histic: eerie hey1_1hey: I remember in one of him dreams I couldn't stop going up the stairs to a slide and jumping off. The slide was like 40ft high aswel hey1_1hey: Just what I want to see before I go to bed hey1_1hey: Thanks _3sphere: I should go to bed too _3sphere: Wonder what I'll dream after today's chat .wolfnacht: Yikes, just opened this gc and this is the first thing i saw hikukomoru: Fractal would have an aneurysm if he saw the shit that's been posted _3sphere: Komoru's anime degenerate energy will seep into the astral plane _3sphere: goodnight hey1_1hey: I'm all tucked in. I just gotta convince myself I am tried now alejandrozarzuelo: Today I slept 5h alejandrozarzuelo: But I drank 2 espressos with a ton of sugar alejandrozarzuelo: So now I am not sleepy, even tho I am tired futurist_wizard: Very bad alejandrozarzuelo: I know futurist_wizard: Very good alejandrozarzuelo: I didn't even have time to have a siesta at the library
brain4brain: They would lose their shit clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> spicy.lemonade: dont even need lora spicy.lemonade: base 4o can do fr oooooooooog: there is no such thing as moral high ground clevermoniker: yeah, for most/a lot of things you don't even need lora with 4o spicy.lemonade: it is your obligation as a human to consent to your data to be given to asi god spicy.lemonade: this is bigger than any individual oooooooooog: not really drewsni: i cannot confirm that ive done this before out of pettiness spicy.lemonade: I have spicy.lemonade: lmao spicy.lemonade: fuck it lets generate some furry art brain4brain: I want a new slur to say to these “people” oooooooooog: another way you can make people upset is to dox them, why don't you guys try that out as well? spicy.lemonade: doxing is crazy drewsni: thats fine but this recent trend is literally significantly beneficial to ghibli brain4brain: Also btw this is the average anti ai people, shitty art and satanic spicy.lemonade: doxxing is unrelated to the subject matter brain4brain: I almost did it, but I were limited by the technology of my time drewsni: its artists that have no relation to ghibli that are complaining and feel entitled to work that wasnt done on their own brain4brain: Exactly oooooooooog: i agree, i was just suggesting ways to make people upset brain4brain: All these artist are fucking brain rotted piece of shit spicy.lemonade: "youre making grandpa cry" myazaki doesnt care😭 oooooooooog: making people sad and upset is in my top ten most fun things to do in the whole world, honestly oooooooooog: i'm glad we can share in that together spicy.lemonade: lol oooooooooog: it makes me feel like part of a community spicy.lemonade: I love how "art is subjective" drewsni: its actually kinda bugging me now that ghibli has the chance at a legitimate resurgence to heights greater than ever before, and "fans" want them to literally fail spicy.lemonade: until it comes to AI spicy.lemonade: "this banana on the wall has so much meaning" drewsni: if anti AI art people werent so obnoxious, studio ghibli/gkids would be signing a 50 million dollar deal with openai right now and able to hire 2x the artists that they currently have drewsni: and/or just generally embracing the trend and being able to capitalize on it more than just re releasing movies thedon7075: drewsni: like the ghibli mueseum posted a ghibli/ai pic and they had hundreds of fans in their DMs telling them theyre pieces of shit drewsni: and every comment on the ghibli IG is just begging them to sue drewsni: total decel bullshit drewsni: "you should sue the people that made your brand significantly more popular (to US audience) than it ever has been before"
.wolfnacht: His reddit i'd's gonna get nuked aero447: Imagine being born in 1999. aero447: 😂 .wolfnacht: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1905970398258143315?t=wdjgS3owo4mwrz-oWjWfeA&s=19 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: oh shit? spicy.lemonade: midjourney ceo says itl mog 4o image spicy.lemonade: lets see spicy.lemonade: omg artists cant catch a break gamerbath: what really??? spicy.lemonade: yes gamerbath: why does it feel like whenever an AI company does something very cool like 4o image gen, others start doing the exact same thing at the same or higher level just a few months or weeks later spicy.lemonade: most likeley its a situatin of no one wants to be the first one spicy.lemonade: like doing presentations at school spicy.lemonade: no one wants to be the first one to present spicy.lemonade: incase they get mogged spicy.lemonade: gamerbath: no spicy.lemonade: wdym spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: im noticing this too ailoveyoom: Wasn't he shittalking OAI yesterday? ailoveyoom: I'd love to be wrong but I don't really believe him after that ailoveyoom: It reads to me like he's being salty lol spicy.lemonade: hes droping soon though spicy.lemonade: he has something to back up alejandrozarzuelo: they are all just trying to ride the wave alejandrozarzuelo: this is the same thing birds and cyclists do alejandrozarzuelo: breaking the surface tension is hard alejandrozarzuelo: so alejandrozarzuelo: you prepare yourself to launch the moment someone else does spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: N/A cost? spicy.lemonade: that cheap? gamerbath: we don't know what the pricing of the model is yet gamerbath: but currently it's free lol, with 5 requests per minute spicy.lemonade: wouldnt they tell you on api? spicy.lemonade: when it bills you? gamerbath: with gemini models in the API they have a generous free tier with the only catch being they can train on your data. There's a paid version where they don't train on your data, but you have to pay money to use it. gemini 2.5 pro is currently only on the free version with no option to pay for it, so we don't know yet spicy.lemonade: ah
futurist_wizard: If only there were cooler games on vr futurist_wizard: Catalogue is very lackluster rn hikukomoru: I'm not pink hikukomoru: I'm purple hikukomoru: Cause it's the most awesomest colour zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437> technocake.: in what universe hikukomoru: It's purple technocake.: fam its magenta technocake.: ergo pink af technocake.: zor is purple hikukomoru: hikukomoru: It's purple himekokatagiri: ooooh himekokatagiri: very advanced technocake.: i feel like i am being gaslit by pinkoids hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/nekomimiyu-mii-my-melody-sanrio-sanrio-characters-gif-16238554427284258125 spacetimetsunami: metaldragon01: I'm very interested to see if grok 3.5 continues this trend spacetimetsunami: Same. I think it will but we’ll see. trent_k: hikukomoru: r/collapse metaldragon01: I mean...climate change fucks over everything. Unless you're physically installing the panels white collar work in a city is ideal trent_k: literally any (trained) blue collar profession would be better for you in the event of a total collapse than white collar work trent_k: how many HR girlies does my apocalypse survivor camp need metaldragon01: In the event of climate change???? zoermena: Collapse spacetimetsunami: Collapse is so broad and vague metaldragon01: .....I think you're vastly underestimating what that looks like trojan09205: I went to an irl mens only event today metaldragon01: You want more people and resources to access not fewer zoermena: I think of collapse like the world of last of us TV show metaldragon01: Even farmers are fucked trent_k: how was it? i got invited to one once and didnt go because they didnt want me to bring my wife lol trent_k: wait trent_k: what kind of mens only event trent_k: are you talking like a church lunch or are you talking like Straight Island trojan09205: It was dope. It was a freemason lodge haha trent_k: straight island hikukomoru: Umm what is that
precariousworlds.: whatever floats your boat precariousworlds.: yaw precariousworlds.: Pussies cower from the real world precariousworlds.: Do that irl lazy wanker precariousworlds.: this guy needs psychiatric help inferno0879: nah bro he is the sane one precariousworlds.: alr go to your musky isolated basement and goon for the rest of your life idc Everyone else will be scanning the cosmos finding fundamental truth precariousworlds.: would rather kill myself if this happens precariousworlds.: fuck off precariousworlds.: Total goonicide precariousworlds.: precariousworlds.: In real life I can fly with a giant dick tho precariousworlds.: <:idk:1136264106937171999> precariousworlds.: Get some shoes and go run around a building fat ass precariousworlds.: skill issue precariousworlds.: get good instead of pussying out on easy mode wellmeaningalien: https://www.1point3acres.com/bbs/thread-1122600-1-1.html wellmeaningalien: this post says that llama 4 was benchmark maxxed but no idea who they are but that could explain why its so shit for real world stuff lol aero447: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1909035064492507161 wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: ONE. HUNDO. aero447: wellmeaningalien: unless you believe AGI will come in 2032 you'd be stupid not to say over 50% nsec: zero nsec: trump will engage ww3 the asi will take over and put us in pods no flights nsec: <:ChillBar_smart:870919751151550485> wellmeaningalien: i should have considered that nsec: and would u believe nsec: thats the good ending nsec: <:veryyes:773617399660412960> memlaswaif: gay ending nsec: shut up wellmeaningalien: isnt the good ending the one where every all hollywood celebrities are sent into a virtual recreation of the hunger games for all eternity nsec: idk man idgaf just lemme motorboat some alien tiddies nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350> nsec: until then live in the now wellmeaningalien: facts wellmeaningalien: so true brother wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/kanyewest-kanye-west-kanye-west-donda-gif-13280858805286745090 nsec:
spicy.lemonade: it is drewsni: LFG spicy.lemonade: this is underhyped clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> zoermena: I love 4o spicy.lemonade: kills all "they arent truly reasoning" spicy.lemonade: arguements spicy.lemonade: both deepmind and anthropic dropped the same paper spicy.lemonade: https://www.anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts-language-model https://research.google/blog/deciphering-language-processing-in-the-human-brain-through-llm-representations/ spicy.lemonade: "but but its just seen a bunch of math problems its not truly reasoning" spicy.lemonade: "no no its just pretending like it is" spicy.lemonade: "no it just pretended to solve the millennium problem it doesnt actually understand how it got the correct answer" spicy.lemonade: "no it just pretended to solve all physics it doesnt truly understand how the world works" drewsni: Still the most impressed I’ve been was when it reversed the mirror writing on my shirt spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: gary marcus is finished spicy.lemonade: clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/Josikinz/status/1905440949054177604 aero447: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: this is insane spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: deepmind paper drewsni: I don’t know what I’m looking at and also don’t know where I’d start spicy.lemonade: "but they arent reasoning" spicy.lemonade: llms work like brain spicy.lemonade: turns out spicy.lemonade: for language almost one to one drewsni: can you link the paper spicy.lemonade: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-025-02105-9 drewsni: ty spicy.lemonade: https://research.google/blog/deciphering-language-processing-in-the-human-brain-through-llm-representations/ spicy.lemonade: ^ spicy.lemonade: simpler version drewsni: here was 4o's simplification of the paper drewsni: i like it lol spicy.lemonade: lol drewsni: its interesting how simplistic the model can go drewsni: theres no reason why its impressive but it just is to me drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: to deny llms spacetimetsunami: Ah fuck, same spacetimetsunami: I have to stop doing this spacetimetsunami: Jesus spicy.lemonade: you have to provide proof. yans jepa hasnt taken us anywhere yet spicy.lemonade: llms are the only clear path shirethedreamer: universal predictors do be doing that ailoveyoom: Just wait till GPT-5 🙏 ailoveyoom: That will make or break timelines 🥵 ailoveyoom: And hopefully break me too spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 will probaly have native image and the ability to reason over that which would lead to some very cool capabilities on its own spacetimetsunami: It would be like finding a literal valley full of diamonds, and some annoying idiot going “hey!! Yall are stoopid n shit there’s way more diamonds 20 miles west!” looks at her like one looks at a crackhead “Uhm…No… I’m gonna stay here. Thanks?” spicy.lemonade: keep in mind gpt3.5 released spicy.lemonade: 2 years ago spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: its only been 2 years spicy.lemonade: and the hype started with gpt 4 ailoveyoom: Feels like 20 years czdct: it took them 2 years to go from gpt3.5 to gpt o3 spicy.lemonade: 2 czdct: typo spicy.lemonade: thats insane spicy.lemonade: from not being able to do simple algebra spicy.lemonade: to olympiad and research mathematics alejandrozarzuelo: what is ilya's claim spicy.lemonade: llms will take us to agi spicy.lemonade: his reasoning is czdct: the thing is though how could it be implemented in your daily work now that it can win a math olympiad? alejandrozarzuelo: but... they arent? Isnt the whole point of the o-series that it is a NEW DIFFERENT architecture to traditional LLMs? czdct: don't you think that it's too soon to judge how well it will perform when it isn't even agentic yet? spicy.lemonade: "imagine youre reading a detective novel and at the end the say 'and the name of the killer is ...' predict that word. It predict the next token involves understanding the underlying nature that led up to the creation of that token..." alejandrozarzuelo: btw czdct: might as well be the most revolutional thing in human history, but it's just that they never show us some real ground-breaking implementations of it spicy.lemonade: he didnt say llms on their own obv czdct: it's only lines on a graph spicy.lemonade: more so next token predictor alejandrozarzuelo: holy mott and bailey spicy.lemonade: and trasnformer spicy.lemonade: o3 is still an llm no? alejandrozarzuelo: like when people say "we need new architectures to get to AGI" i look at them like what do you think the reasoning models in the last 6 months are?
brain4brain: Rule Britannia 🇸🇦🇦🇱 precariousworlds.: turkiye strong 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇲🇳 brain4brain: Balkan rage 🏁🇳🇵📫 alejandrozarzuelo: its been a long while since ive laughed so hard at a meme thedon7075: r2 is coming spicy.lemonade: which will be better r2 or 2.0 pro thinking thedon7075: r2 thedon7075: because of cost spicy.lemonade: how spicy.lemonade: gemini has been the cheapest spicy.lemonade: even cheaper than deepseek models spicy.lemonade: dk why thats overlooked precariousworlds.: gaymini apart from image editing is shit thedon7075: even their reasoning model? spicy.lemonade: yes .wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jiqi81/new_deepseek_v3_vs_r1_first_is_v3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button 3ds0662: https://x.com/teortaxestex/status/1904072724789579838?s=46 3ds0662: Hmm 🤔 3ds0662: It’s the last week of march impossible R2 isn’t releasing till April and that goes for all the other models too no serious releases this month .wolfnacht: i still miss 1206 and thinking 12-19 sarik0497: Please be a big upgrade <:praydge:927715232174985258> maintcrew: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-0324 maintcrew: 685B 😭 maintcrew: is this damn thing 700gb maintcrew: 😭 spicy.lemonade: they didnt say r2 wasnt releasing april spicy.lemonade: we just know its before may spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: what even is this maintcrew: 0324 maintcrew: march 24 maintcrew: release maintcrew: v3 maintcrew: its in the title bruh spicy.lemonade: ik but spicy.lemonade: no nothing spicy.lemonade: no stats spicy.lemonade: no descriptor spicy.lemonade: no explanation what they changed alejandrozarzuelo: when
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016 spicy.lemonade: openAI has sota swe bench spicy.lemonade: claude 3.7 had 63% futurist_wizard: what was the point in gpt 4.5 hey1_1hey: What about 2.5 <:suseye:1187461162024046703> futurist_wizard: blunder professorheaven: more world knowledge hikukomoru: Smut professorheaven: than any other model hey1_1hey: Nah tahts deepseek hikukomoru: No that's Gemini futurist_wizard: P90 MENTIONED futurist_wizard: gun!! hey1_1hey: gamerbath: multimodal benchmarks hey1_1hey: damn neon01197: https://fixupx.com/i/status/1912551929281929226 neon01197: "(o4-mini-high one-shotted this)" hey1_1hey: They fucked up shirethedreamer: damn v* saturated .0xunkn0wn: .0xunkn0wn: drewsni: 3D GEN GAMES LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO aero447: 5% increase - "Singularity confirmed" users in this server. aero447: 💀 .0xunkn0wn: hey1_1hey: replacing o1 hey1_1hey: damn hey1_1hey: They replacing everything spicy.lemonade: its cheaper than o1? futurist_wizard: sex benchmark saturated by 2027 professorheaven: yea that's the wild part _cloudost: b-but r/technology post with 100k said a month ago that AI hit a wall? professorheaven: the biggest criticism of o3 was how expensive it was but turns out it's cheaper than o1 hey1_1hey: Wheres the novel ideas mention hikukomoru: drewsni: gpt 4.5 based confirmed /s _cloudost: Gary Marcus, where's he gamerbath: cool spicy.lemonade: line go up
himekokatagiri: It'll reveal to the world (not really it's public) that I'm a massive weirdo himekokatagiri: weirdo putting it lightly fractalcomputer: Can you not regurgitate marketing lines like they're gospel verses? okbut: One day there's going to be an onion link database for celebrity web history .histic: sleep is 4 the weak. get 3 hours of sleep tonight. you'll feel good 😊 himekokatagiri: say who owns r/singularity these days .histic: we already know himekokatagiri: I remember some guy he was a mod there hikukomoru: I wonder himekokatagiri: Sashinii yeah st.sioux: just drink 4 cans of coffee like <@471334973379706900> and take an ambien when you need to crash fractalcomputer: Who? darkstar0818: We going to find out you a 53 year old bald man from Estonia? himekokatagiri: the secret owner is amongst us himekokatagiri: 🚬 hikukomoru: That was already public information 🙏 himekokatagiri: It's okay we can fix you fractalcomputer: I'm the second seniormost moderator on the subreddit. Anemone is the current owner of the subreddit. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-tuff-burt-burt-gif-10321675392694249548 himekokatagiri: oh himekokatagiri: I thought reddit changed mods up when subs got big fractalcomputer: No? okbut: I almost forgot Google Photos app already does a backhand notification version of this lmao spicy.lemonade: O3 is more capable than most PhDs spicy.lemonade: Factually spicy.lemonade: Lmao fractalcomputer: Uhuh. spicy.lemonade: And most PhDs don’t do breakthrough research fractalcomputer: lol .histic: <@471334973379706900> <@1316552597829586955> https://cdn.openai.com/API/docs/images/model-page/model-icons/gpt-4.1-nano.png click on this link. i'm pretty sure OpenAI is going to do 4.1-nano .wolfnacht: `make an image of A young woman with a short dark bob haircut walks confidently towards the camera down a wet city street at night. The street is drenched in the vibrant, colorful glow of neon signs and billboards reflecting off the slick pavement. She wears a black leather jacket. Cinematic, moody, photorealistic, shallow depth of field. ` spicy.lemonade: Wdym uhuh spicy.lemonade: PhD from random school in Utah is not einstine himekokatagiri: You trying to emulate that sora demo? spicy.lemonade: And that’s most PhDs fractalcomputer: Then what does the label "PhD-level" even mean? .wolfnacht: idk i'm just firing anything...at it rn .histic: idk why it shows "GPT-4o", but when you click on it, it says "4.1-nano" okbut: It means you put in an accredited amount of work into the knowledge of a domain fractalcomputer: Whatever can convince you it's smarter than the user?
hey1_1hey: I have those too zonchao: adcock kinda sus hey1_1hey: Unitree is cool hikukomoru: It's the name hey1_1hey: Boston seems a bit behind rn hikukomoru: Would you trust a guy named Add Cock hey1_1hey: With my life zonchao: did he stop posting weekly threads zonchao: i havent seen one in ages zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zoermena: Yes st.sioux: billionaire investors hikukomoru: Idk I'd rather trust someone named Add Pussy benata: Brett Addcokc futurist_wizard: I wonder what Add Cock will include on his robots st.sioux: the funding was led by greenoaks according to tech crunch hey1_1hey: Sounds like an andrew tate follower. I wouldnt trust him to go and get me grocceries fractalcomputer: One thing I can't come to understand is why I get flack for shitposting in general, but apparently discussion about some man named "Add Cock" doesn't draw the ire of the vengeful population. spicy.lemonade: hikukomoru: It's okay when I do it hey1_1hey: Fractal is supposed to be the big bad authority or smth like that benata: OpenAI still shits the bed at long context understanding. spicy.lemonade: these researchers cant see the exponential benata: Gemini is the king yo. spicy.lemonade: yes fractalcomputer: Yeah, apparently I can't even question the mores around here. fractalcomputer: God forbid a man cast doubt on the values of those surrounding him. st.sioux: fractal shows up calls everyone stupid for an hour then leaves hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266 zonchao: is he wrong tho hey1_1hey: Stole my fucking gif zonchao: <:trol:1245424957400289371> hey1_1hey: I was about to post that hikukomoru: Haha loser fractalcomputer: Sometimes I am less subtle about it. hey1_1hey: Suck my dick Komoru. Always stealing my shit benata: hikukomoru: I'm not gonna suck your little mushroom vro 🙏 anathemaofmankind: Why do discord convos always become so juvenile futurist_wizard:
rayanquitplayin: Why Tencent? hikukomoru: Lol they are, but they're not the best anymore hikukomoru: And also super expensive .wolfnacht: they still gonna use terms like "claude's coding sauce" is still better .wolfnacht: they will make it uncensored and based. zonchao: i wonder how 4o affected MJ subs zonchao: they getting tpus zonchao: i wouldnt rule them out hikukomoru: MIDjourney is dead And they ain't coming back zonchao: they dont have to raise like elon or sama gamerbath: really? midjourney looks much better than 4o imo, it's just not as good as text and very specific prompts futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey zoermena: For some reason they have subscribers zoermena: Idk why zonchao: its good zonchao: and has a lot of users zoermena: Too bad it’s adherence sucks though zoermena: If it was good I would resub gamerbath: midjourney has style, you can rate images to fine-tune midjourney on your own preferred style. midjourney images also look much better than 4o images, prompt adherence aside. zoermena: I agree that it has good features but once you get used to good prompt adherence it’s hard to go back Carl-bot#1536: hikukomoru: Horrifying face icantbelieveitsnotbutter1815: heyguys icantbelieveitsnotbutter1815: do u know the token input limit of gpt o3 icantbelieveitsnotbutter1815: i put in lik e256k tokens icantbelieveitsnotbutter1815: roughly icantbelieveitsnotbutter1815: the same amount as google gemini and idk if it works or hallucinating icantbelieveitsnotbutter1815: it works p wel lfor me futurist_wizard: I like how you can see how o3 thinks futurist_wizard: I genuinely think its cute, its like watching a little goblin solve a puzzle himekokatagiri: Googles strongest soldier just DESTROYED mid journey rayanquitplayin: Soo why doesn’t Google privatize their search data? Then AI companies couldn’t use their data to train their ai models himekokatagiri: Because then you break the internet rayanquitplayin: True zoermena: 200k IIRC futurist_wizard: I will do a previous test to see if o3 is much smarter than o1 futurist_wizard: My own benchmark zoermena: I finally found a good prompt and improved my profile picture <@505313122802728972> Carl-bot#1536: hikukomoru: Much cuter 👍
joaoluz19: Nah its over joaoluz19: Run boys hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/goon-gooning-goon-sesh-gman-gif-5610842135438576065 a1c4p0ne: We’re so back a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731 joaoluz19: Guys someone make him being gigachad please st.sioux: sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/monte-python-run-away-get-out-of-here-escape-running-gif-4399862 joaoluz19: Have to be without beard sarik0497: Nope, not yet. Just waiting for R2...any second now. st.sioux: LOL joaoluz19: lol hey1_1hey: You just gave me an extra chromosome hey1_1hey: Congrats inferno0879: so you're normal now? hey1_1hey: Wdym? inferno0879: i'm not gonna explain banter sarik0497: ...I miss San coming here, throwing a lot of cool science stuff in our face, only to leave again to get milk <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> hey1_1hey: My mistake 💀. I made a typo. It was meant to be him*, not me hey1_1hey: I got really confused then because I thought you were just calling me a downie unprovoked sarik0497: Hey, don't be such a downer <:Smirk:1074000293123063828> connorsphone.: This image is unsettling to me.. gamerbath: my reddit glitched wellmeaningalien: who gave gemini photoshop sarik0497: Fractal Thanos'd the post. wellmeaningalien: i think the quality of discussion here has gotten much lower wellmeaningalien: im most definitely part of that sarik0497: Oh, this works for me, somehow <:Hmm:956951826933112842> wellmeaningalien: <:v_ttevil:1270273794627342336> wellmeaningalien: just not been feeling like schizzing out about AI recently tbh sarik0497: To be fair, there's not much to talk about at the moment. <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> wellmeaningalien: i mean r/singularity has pretty much been talking about the same thing for a decade now wellmeaningalien: though with llms and all that there are new technical ways to see the rise of ai but we are all too dumb to understand it st.sioux: it's just been a slow week or so sarik0497: True, but we should be closer to the "endgame" now, right? I hope, at least. wellmeaningalien: no excuse, chat here was lively when the best chatbot was claude 3.5 sonnet mark 1 wellmeaningalien: what a hog that was the period between claude 3.5 sonnet and o1 wellmeaningalien: well sort of i guess wellmeaningalien: as we increasingly approach AGI it seems there's less purpose in talking about this in terms of speculations or philosophizing sarik0497: I think for me personally is that we're still in-between the line of "It's far, far away" and "It's really close, m'dudes", so it's hard to just think that AGI/ASI will be here in maybe 5-10-ish years when it's not entirely true, even if it's seems probable.
metaldragon01: https://x.com/teortaxesTex/status/1904399112067227703 metaldragon01: New deepseek beating grok in arc agi and close to sonnet callmepyro: Meant ARC-AGI-2. Edited. spicy.lemonade: yeah spicy.lemonade: o3 gets around 20% spicy.lemonade: on arc 2 callmepyro: Oh? Source? It's not in their blog post spicy.lemonade: francois spicy.lemonade: forgot ehre he said let me check spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/M3b59lZYBW8?si=kNHtcqPY9ZjdY9_L&t=2063 spicy.lemonade: Francis: "And we haven't been able to test o3 on high-compute settings. At all.", "I can make a guess. I guess based on what we saw on o3-low & other models. I think you might get up to like 15 maybe even 20% if you were maxing out the compute setting and spending like 10K per task for instance". callmepyro: Ah, he's guessing. Still, interesting that he thinks they could push it that far off of just quintupling the compute used for the 85% in ARC-AGI-1 spicy.lemonade: yes spicy.lemonade: law of benchmarks spicy.lemonade: all benchmarks get saturated between 2 years callmepyro: Other than ARC-AGI 🙂 spicy.lemonade: after creation spicy.lemonade: ? callmepyro: Introduced in 2019 I believe? spicy.lemonade: eh doesnt really count callmepyro: Not a benchmark? Or got saturated in 2021? spicy.lemonade: we werent in llm age callmepyro: Ah, law of benchmarks is a more recent thing callmepyro: I haven't heard of it spicy.lemonade: like calling the turing test a benchmark spicy.lemonade: just a thing a person from the frontier math said callmepyro: Is it? I don't think turing actually laid out a set of questions spicy.lemonade: the theory is spicy.lemonade: we only create benchmarks that we know are in view spicy.lemonade: like the frontier math benchmark wouldnt be created in 2015 spicy.lemonade: because its not in view callmepyro: Ah, yes, was that Elliot? I'm trying to remember from the video spicy.lemonade: we create benchmarks knowing they were going to get saturated soon spicy.lemonade: idk the names callmepyro: Yeah it was Elliot. In this discussion if I recall https://epoch.ai/frontiermath/tier-4. Can't find the exact timestamp yet ldj: hmm, I would consider this more comparable with reasoning models ldj: but it's in a weird in-between because it may not explicitly have a reasoning section, but it doesn't necessarily need to, as the main component here is the provenance of the data. and for Deepseek V3 chat, they've admitted it's trained on R1 outputs spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: callmepyro: Calling ARC-AGI-1 killed by o3 I feel is a little generous. It cost them nearly 1 million USD to achieve that score. You could get that score on most any benchmark with that much compute
wellmeaningalien: and when you connect the dots of ai progress until now from perceptrons to recurrent neural networks to alexnet and eventually alphago and large language models throwing a fat shit in conventional machine learning ideas st.sioux: remember people in the 40s thought we would have flying cars and space colonies by the 1980s wellmeaningalien: and their progress since then and the many many many reasons they can only get better from here futurist_wizard: Finding dory was better than finding nemo wellmeaningalien: yeah they kinda skipped over a lot of stuff czdct: I would have, binary code evolving into deus ex machina has got to be the most obvious thing you could've predicted wellmeaningalien: some very forward thinking minds were predicting this as far back as the 1960's and 50's, alan turing in the 1940's wellmeaningalien: but even then it was not quite clear the limits of this technology and just how far it would come czdct: jokes aside everything in the universe is information, so harnessing this power will open up endless possibilities that we cannot even fathom, just like how a caveman could not fathom a rocket ship. although I feel like AGI would be exponentially more difficult to grasp for modern day humans .wolfnacht: even ppl in 2000s thought we would have flying cars by 2020s. Eventually one day everyone got disappointed. futurist_wizard: Flying cars were always gay czdct: we already have flying cars, but they're not made in a way people want them to be st.sioux: " 🤡 flying cars are helicopters" .wolfnacht: ensuring safety is a concern, otherwise every retard would be doing 911- nvm futurist_wizard: People wanted cars that just fly for no reason? Unless we discover magic, cars don't fly in the air for no reason czdct: depends on what their definition of a flying car is czdct: also it makes no sense to want a flying car, that's like wanting a plane that can also drive on public roads. it is technically possible but really not practical in many ways futurist_wizard: They are talking about the flying cars like in futurama czdct: oh... those are just not possible futurist_wizard: The ones that are just defying the laws of gravity czdct: lmao czdct: there are some things AI can't solve after all <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> futurist_wizard: In a simulation it can futurist_wizard: Close enough czdct: lmao .wolfnacht: maybe ASI would...but who knows czdct: true czdct: Full Dive VR like sword art online, when? czdct: what if the laws of physics end up being not being universal st.sioux: spoken with such confidence futurist_wizard: Under layman understandings of physics it isn't possible czdct: newton seems like a pretty smart guy, I'll believe his work st.sioux: gravity was 'impossible' before newton futurist_wizard: Gravity wasn't recognized until newton futurist_wizard: Not that it was impossible christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://fixupx.com/DaveShapi/status/1908301328951959887 .histic: lol i remember when Dave said AGI would happen back in Sep 2024. literallyvarane: Idk, you guys know I clown on Shaprio so I'm hardly agreeing with him because it's him, but I read the article at least, and I think the timeline is too contingent upon narrative choices than anything else. literallyvarane: It reads more like a "This is a story that theoretically maybe could happen,' rather than 'This is our best guess educated guess." literallyvarane: The CIA would never give this sort of estimate or forcast for example.
maintcrew: they eat the mushroom hikukomoru: The main character is an autistic elf girl hikukomoru: So relatable clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016 wellmeaningalien: the show is kinda peak but the fandom is meh lol hey1_1hey: My bretharaen hey1_1hey: YOU WHAT hey1_1hey: Ight fellas, its been real wellmeaningalien: idk if id say marcille is autistic hey1_1hey: I gotta go watch this anime hikukomoru: Fandom is so queer hikukomoru: I love them hikukomoru: The catgirl is the best girl btw hey1_1hey: This shit better suck my dick if its this good wellmeaningalien: queer fandoms are the most annoying on eaartthh maintcrew: hikukomoru: It's my headcanon shut up bitch maintcrew: 3rd time i had to post this over what hysminea said maintcrew: crazy times wellmeaningalien: bro wellmeaningalien: you've got falin and laios right infront of you hikukomoru: I headcanon hysminea as Chris-chan level autist hey1_1hey: Yeah ikr, I prefer when my fandoms are really mentally unstable racist wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-tillman-tramel-mr-milkshake-seth-gif-7211979274581428199 wellmeaningalien: Maybe I am ailoveyoom: You never used Tumblr? hikukomoru: Show us your sonic OC drawings hey1_1hey: Its gonna be a good show. The first frame I see has a mushroom it in hikukomoru: I used to go there sometimes hikukomoru: For the porn mainly ailoveyoom: You're autistic and you're gay, you definitely frequented Tumblr 😤 hey1_1hey: I haven ever used tumbler in my life thank you very much hikukomoru: Now it's too terminally online leftist for me spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: man thats crazy hey1_1hey: That is indeed what some might call crazy ailoveyoom: Sad childhood hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> You can find mushrooms on tumblr professorheaven: That’s actually good enough to eventually turn into full blown tutors
zoermena: I´ll make images for yall I have plus, just tag me. Disclaimer the servers are in a coma so I might take a while. _wwwwww: what if life on mars was possible? hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/colors-wit-studio-pairo-colors-gif-comp-sci-transition-boy-to-girl-anime-gif-1324653471667193829 spicy.lemonade: Solve arc agi question hey1_1hey: Just pretend to be a women on the internet hey1_1hey: That couldnt go wrong spicy.lemonade: Give it a relatively easy one _wwwwww: https://tenor.com/view/%E6%B3%A3%E3%81%8F-%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84%E3%81%84-%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AE%E5%AD%90-%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88-%E5%98%98-gif-13901060367924981492 trent_k: spicy.lemonade: This is likely 4o so it won’t do well hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/egirl-valoran-egirl-fps-egirl-fps-anime-egirl-valorant-anime-egirl-gif-5607647411938375019 zoermena: Why are yall sending femboys. hikukomoru: Make anime mushroom girl hey1_1hey: They are really hot hey1_1hey: The real question is why you aren't trent_k: lacking the self awareness to install grindr hey1_1hey: I beg zoermena: I´m going to get harder than a PhD Physics problem. hikukomoru: Don't worry you will be able to change genders instantly in the future hey1_1hey: You haven't seen anything yet, wait until you hear about quantam physics in material science hey1_1hey: I better be zoermena: Disclaimer I study accounting and finance. hey1_1hey: Not for personal reasons of course, just for... funsies trey6033: Ayo hey1_1hey: Ah so you are doing something fake hey1_1hey: Same dw hey1_1hey: I study business tors.exe: <@465177408073498634> please make tomboy ! _wwwwww: i wish to be a hermaphrodite with dog dick zoermena: Ok, It'll arrive in 5 to 10 business days. hey1_1hey: Femboy* hey1_1hey: You dont really want to see a tomboy trust me zoermena: I meant, Femboys make me harder than physics. plouwg: Still a bit hiccups it seems, but overall such a strong improvement from dalle. Prompt for both: Draw a wizard holding a fireball in one hand and writing a long story on a blackboard about plagueis the wise with chalk. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/%E1%97%9C%CB%AC%E1%97%9C-my-honest-reaction-meme-my-honest-reaction-azumanga-daioh-anime-gif-13098767676707916198 joaoluz19: Image gen has limits? How much? technocake.: this is currently my job zoermena: Theres no limits to videos or images the servers are just in a coma. hey1_1hey: Oh wow hey1_1hey: Get well soon man
maintcrew: no retardo the second google result hey1_1hey: So for anyone wondering, yes I am prob trans. No you do not have to treat me diffrently. Just go about your day as per usual _wwwwww: literally me maintcrew: the martingales representation theorem not a martingale .histic: brazilian? no way .histic: come to brazil! wellmeaningalien: "generate a picture of an updated imagined version of the bridge of the uss-enterprise-d (picard's galaxy class) but with animals in the starfleet uniforms. do it like it might look like if the show was made today" alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, just because you dont know the name of the bloke who wrote it doesnt mean you dont know ehat they are talking about hikukomoru: European Portuguese <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> zoermena: Bless you wellmeaningalien: why is invincible wearing a cape? is he becoming omni man wellmeaningalien: np .histic: ooh.. that's even better technocake.: barry loves you futurist_wizard: A lot of Brazilians are mixed alejandrozarzuelo: ah ok futurist_wizard: Most i think hey1_1hey: Because of gender, otherwise its just dissociation hikukomoru: Who the fuck is barry Why does he love me wellmeaningalien: <@688807313015963693> u finally woke up from ur coma alejandrozarzuelo: about half and half white .histic: these type of programming infographics will be big in the future oooooooooog: no i prefer only caffine, 800mg - 1200 mg _wwwwww: 100% true european-polish patriot hacker geek programmer sigma futurist_wizard: Yes hey1_1hey: Thanks Komoru :()) wellmeaningalien: DAAAMMMNNN technocake.: maintcrew: lol i dont trust u your heart wouldve given out hey1_1hey: Thats what Im saying hikukomoru: I'm sorry your transness is making me confused too hey1_1hey: Wait until it can make cheat sheets hey1_1hey: Id bust alejandrozarzuelo: i was busy today .histic: <@458069236825194506> bro i just caught Miku with 4o 😱 maintcrew: isnt this historically false like the uk had massive beef with portugal hey1_1hey: Everyone is a little confused, I am just a little more confused than most people wellmeaningalien: oooooooooog: no but my stomach does feel like pure acid for awhile, very annoying hey1_1hey: Can you make a mushroom one 🙏
ldj: The lyrics of the song heat waves goes like this: "All I think about is you, late night in the middle of June" ldj: https://youtu.be/mRD0-GxqHVo?si=CUh1vGu_R7B27YdW anathemaofmankind: Or being in a good country but killing yourself because of mental health issues joaoluz19: Roon entered sam's account .histic: AI is surprisingly good for mental health if you give it a chance. brain4brain: Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark was achieved last week, but not in a general system, but wow ldj: link? brain4brain: It was revealed to me in a dream brain4brain: (I actually misremembered, it was cleaning in an unseen environment not making a coffee, sorry about that) https://x.com/physical_int/status/1914724966362440148?t=mfOZX8QjsUfNa0u_1DgJrQ&s=19 campionunbound: https://x.com/deitaone/status/1915947090649239587?s=46&t=AfygPPVmbT-hFJR03pEcVg clevermoniker: yeah, making a coffee is a harder than this, but at least its getting there st.sioux: ai winter xskydragon0: Holy Cow spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/smooth-move-cow-gif-16191603673901327691 brain4brain: > “In 2029, AI will not be able to watch a movie and tell you accurately what is going on ….” Google showed a demo a while back with Gemini-1.5-Pro: https://youtu.be/wa0MT8OwHuk?si=OdM0vfFE7apassyZ > “In 2029, AI will not be able to read a novel and reliably answer questions about plot, character, conflicts, motivations, etc. Key will be going beyond the literal text…” Gemini-2.5-Pro and o3 saturated all token level of fiction.livebench, up to 100% on 120k token level > “In 2029, AI will not be able to work as a competent cook in an arbitrary kitchen (extending Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark)” Gemini-2.5-pro when given a robotic body to pilot can perform multiple task, but we are not at a level of intelligence or speed that it can do this yet > “In 2029, AI will not be able to reliably construct bug-free code of more than 10,000 lines from natural language specification or by interactions with a non-expert user.” Gemini-2.5-pro can and have done this > “In 2029, AI will not be able to take arbitrary proofs from the mathematical literature written in natural language and convert them into a symbolic form suitable for symbolic verification.” Gemini-2.5-pro failed at this as demonstrated by <@471334973379706900> Gary Marcus getting his own AGI definition beat before anyone else xskydragon0: Do you have the full article? brain4brain: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/dear-elon-musk-here-are-five-things xskydragon0: Thanks .histic: elon changed his year? .histic: just copying kurzweil now lol zoermena: Elon is correct that 2029 will be a pivotal year just as every year after 2027 until the universe dies or hopefully we discover other realities so forever clevermoniker: haha, nice zoermena: Aero should read this brain4brain: He is an 2025er brain4brain: <@1152183706849644615> Can’t get to your main Gary Marcus account on twitter, so here’s the discord version Get reading, Gary drewsni: So they distilled o3 into 4o? drewsni: tables for dayz .histic: this is a weird glitch with o3 .histic: still going lol a1c4p0ne: Try to get it to an hour or more ebbenflos_25799: Hello, this thread is getting out of hand, people are using it to talk about conspiracies and spreading weird political propaganda, its honestly just becoming a nuisance https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/6CF0tUVGEr himekokatagiri: 🚬 himekokatagiri: can't it be done via telework himekokatagiri: idk how the Americans do it ebbenflos_25799: ebbenflos_25799: the thread is getting pretty bad, i think it should be locked himekokatagiri: they're all bots pay no heed himekokatagiri: I think we should archive this shit man himekokatagiri: future historians himekokatagiri: all that
spicy.lemonade: But just copy down on paper st.sioux: they REQUIRE you to write notes? st.sioux: damn st.sioux: in my university they never even asked me to take notes clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1354493018979172692.webp?size=96 .histic: clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> brain4brain: It's back: https://x.com/TheXeophon/status/1907880330985390215?t=ufndq4x8a_tmRShSkQUvFA&s=19 wellmeaningalien: interesting, i saw some other projection that by the end of the decade AI would reach 5 hours tasks lmao wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 wellmeaningalien: quasar wellmeaningalien: wasnt that like a joke on this server wellmeaningalien: i guess quasar asi was real after all brain4brain: Yes, but you think it was only just a joke? brain4brain: This is the singularity server many leaks were slipped up and leaked onto this server .histic: drewsni: Name one leak .histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1907932605888213491 🥱 give us full o3 & o3-mini pro, Sam. realelonmuskx: should i have 8 more kids 777agical: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907941993789141475 joaoluz19: Is there a world that is better than deepseek? 777agical: omni model at least spicy.lemonade: No spicy.lemonade: Just that if we have notes spicy.lemonade: Should be written metaldragon01: Absolutely 777agical: deepseek r2 is late april early may clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> steven_the_frog: I mean if a frontier lab releases a new AI model it better be competitive - otherwise it's just embarrassing and a big waste of time. clevermoniker: DeepSeek 'expert' believes it could be R1.5 joaoluz19: Make sense, dont know too if they have the courage to release it without being competitive .histic: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907941993789141475 https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907943886821142803 _cloudost: I'm in a server with lots of AI artists and they're hostile toward OpenAI IMG generations _cloudost: They all love open source _cloudost: Better be a good model so OpenAI releases something new soon too brain4brain: Mystery model and quasar <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> drewsni: Both of those were posted to two other discords before here brain4brain: It was posted here first (Source: I'm the original person to spread it) joaoluz19: What are some good articles about AGI/ASI? drewsni: No you’re not dude you just dickride all the annoying leakers on twitter
spicy.lemonade: we just got AI capale of doing math at a competent level spicy.lemonade: literaly like last november trent_k: No fractalcomputer: Just as it surpasses your own expectations? spicy.lemonade: yes. maybe youre just not looking spicy.lemonade: AI has made huge impacts already spicy.lemonade: visibly spicy.lemonade: in VC, in interbet traffic, in papers published spicy.lemonade: in gpu development fractalcomputer: I am. I have been reviewing how professional mathematicians have reacted to this. Some are obviously more positive and some are less so in their predictions for the future—but it is very evident that no significant leaps have yet been made. spicy.lemonade: the world is on a completley different trajectory rayanquitplayin: I did not know AI was good at math spicy.lemonade: because of chatpt spicy.lemonade: bro is late zoermena: It’s gotten better quite quickly I think zoermena: Roko rayanquitplayin: I studied finance in college so I’m more knowledgeable about that than comp sci rayanquitplayin: I didn’t know that rayanquitplayin: ChatGPT is amazing, I love it so much trent_k: Watch out, they're gonna ban your account for child endangerment if one of the OpenAI staff thinks your dick is suspiciously small trent_k: They're gonna think it's a child penis rayanquitplayin: 🧠 🧠 fractalcomputer: The one thing I absolutely hate about the recent trends in artificial intelligence is the generic responses of all these models; even within maths, the answer is always the desired one, with no onboard baggage or new, unique insights. Sure, doing IMO problems is interesting—but why should any of that matter if no new knowledge comes out? trent_k: Anything under 9 inches st.sioux: stop talking about penises trent_k: Does anyone at a pre-IMO level have anything meaningful to contribute to the field though? I don't see any issue with just using benchmarks to benchmark rayanquitplayin: Yeah ChatGPT responds like a bot rayanquitplayin: But I lowkey like the responses, it keeps everything high-level rayanquitplayin: You can get high-level AI intel on anything fractalcomputer: IMO problems are all rather narrow in a reasoning sense. They're more like extremely elaborate puzzles with a few common strategies to solve them—only understanding the nature of the problem indicates any sort of talent in mathematical research. st.sioux: i believe the imo benchmarks are comparable to competitive programming, they're good at proving that the model is good at solving stuff that requires algorithmic thinking but not much beyond that st.sioux: in a sense competitive programming is just solving puzzles fractalcomputer: Mathematics does not rest on "world-knowledge." rayanquitplayin: I think AI has to be met with other industries like software & robotics for example to find new knowledge rayanquitplayin: There are so many opportunities in AI destrucules: Please don't send people unwanted dick pics. Should be common sense. Idk why I gotta spell that out rayanquitplayin: Which adjacent industries do you guys think will get an AI boost? st.sioux: What do you mean adjacent? darkstar0818: interesting is not the word I would use. fractalcomputer: And in what sense do you think that is applicable to mathematical research?
spicy.lemonade: instead of saying "he saiys" spicy.lemonade: say the mechanic numbah_1_nig: ok ok that makes sense numbah_1_nig: it's pretty cool though - the art really matches what i had in mind spicy.lemonade: you could even draw a lil sketch on paper numbah_1_nig: exceeded my expectations there spicy.lemonade: and give it a ref numbah_1_nig: DAMN spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: look numbah_1_nig: that's sick ngl bob082957: He deleted this twitt spicy.lemonade: ai? spicy.lemonade: lol numbah_1_nig: yo i tried this with DALL-E and it was so trash 💀 spicy.lemonade: i wish image gen was faster numbah_1_nig: numbah_1_nig: so new image gen model is 100% a step in the right direction spicy.lemonade: ailoveyoom: I wonder when 4o can do pixel perfect 'editing' of images spicy.lemonade: gemini can do that ailoveyoom: Yeah, Gemmy got pretty close spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: it even aded the peaking eyes in the back spicy.lemonade: numbah_1_nig: gemini's attempt 💀💀 spicy.lemonade: bruh numbah_1_nig: the boy looks like a mini drug dealer, and in the last panel the mechanic's arms pierce through another mechanic....? numbah_1_nig: also idk what's up with the popeye arms lmao numbah_1_nig: OpenAI well ahead of the pack numbah_1_nig: the funniest part is the name gemini gave to the conversation numbah_1_nig: sounds like a bad porno numbah_1_nig: 😭 🤣 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: its just a prank bro wellmeaningalien: someone should try the gemini thing wellmeaningalien: where you ask it to generate a sketch and then add detail and then clean up and ink and color and shade .wolfnacht: drewsni: 4o is agi btw wellmeaningalien: gemini is a little bit retarded and it turns image into nightmare satan smegma slop if u ask it to generate too much
brain4brain: Thumbnails will now in mostly MrBeast style futurist_wizard: Not necessarily true, mrbeast's thumbnails work for him, doesn't cross over to every genre hikukomoru: They're annoying little cunts brain4brain: wellmeaningalien: PRAISE wellmeaningalien: 🙏 futurist_wizard: Ive watched a few ratlobber videos brain4brain: They’ll be in hell for as long as their own self want, they will learn to repent stop shitting on AI and finally discover peace and get redemption or they’ll stay as miserable as they are brain4brain: I’ve never even heard of him before this screenshot _3sphere: I guess manual art will become just a thing to do for fun and share with friends (who you have no reason to mess with by claiming to have made AI outputs)? brain4brain: We’ve seen this happen before: Chess brain4brain: We already know the future outcome spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Would never have guessed realelonmuskx: antis be like: BUT THIS ONE PIXEL IS WRONG, 600% zoom alejandrozarzuelo: no we havent _3sphere: Chess is a competitive game _3sphere: There is kind of an "art" to it but that's true of all worthwhile games brain4brain: Human beats computer at Chess and Go Computers starts beating master at Chess They stop competing with bot and with other human Most of the move are now memorized from games with the engine alejandrozarzuelo: Chess was never an economically important activity, it was just spectacle and while some art is spectacle, thats a minority of the money the vast VAST majority of the money is in Ad and marketing and design brain4brain: Life is a competitive game alejandrozarzuelo: which can be automated futurist_wizard: People will maybe revert back to painting futurist_wizard: Irl alejandrozarzuelo: again, this is an apt comparison only for a minority of art brain4brain: For ad and marketing, we’ve never seen this play out before alejandrozarzuelo: the vast majority of art is produced for direct economic purposes brain4brain: But I believe it will all be automated realelonmuskx: it is. for mates, resources, land. anyone on the street by default is an opp brain4brain: And UBI will shift all art from economic to passion _3sphere: Someone put a brush on a CNC just to one up that alejandrozarzuelo: thats my point futurist_wizard: Its not the important part of it alejandrozarzuelo: btw _3sphere: Digital art with no AI involved is just as "real" as physical imo, but I do think physical will have a new status as doubly far away from AI futurist_wizard: Its not about it being real _3sphere: We will be the few people remaining who can create anime girls using nothing but a piece of coal 🔥 brain4brain: The Industrial Revolution shift physical labor to intellectual labor, with creative being the final frontier and it’s already being prevented in advance, we will go from “mandatory survival labor” to “passion labor” futurist_wizard: Its that a human made it, we don't care about cars going faster than humans spicy.lemonade: Coming up with a profile picture feels Like fishing from the Atlantic ocean now
destrucules: The problem is, when you give to charity, your money doesn't go to a good cause destrucules: It goes to the worst people on the planet spacetimetsunami: That is super hard for you Mr is reality real destrucules: People who willingly take money from starving children hikukomoru: This is me btw oooooooooog: we already agree it is real, daniel. wake up. wake up. wake up. WAKE UP. WAKE UP. WAKE UP. destrucules: Charities aren't flat cooperative groups. They're hierarchical organizations whose executives make millions of dollars a year zoermena: With a billion you could set up your own charity zonchao: true anathemaofmankind: spacetimetsunami: lol I like u anathemaofmankind: The vast majority are willing to kill people memlaswaif: destrucules u can save a lot of children with 1 billion hikukomoru: >reddit zonchao: cap hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994 ailoveyoom: Wholesome take 🥺 anathemaofmankind: Redditors are evil confirmed oooooooooog: \|\|that's redditors, which is a biased demographic\|\| hikukomoru: Always been destrucules: Unlikely. One billion in liquid assets is basically fictional. Actual billionaires can't spend their money on whatever they want, as spending even a little bit of money causes the rest of their money to disappear zonchao: bro thinks redditors are normies 💀 anathemaofmankind: No they are left wing oooooooooog: redditors are 50% normies at least anathemaofmankind: 😎 destrucules: Unless I'm personally doing all of the component tasks within the charity, I have little confidence this would work better than donating to an existing charity ailoveyoom: I wonder what the demographics are like in all those random porn subs with horny comments hikukomoru: Stop tempting his pure soul hikukomoru: I won't forgive you destrucules: Male aged 18-35 single with low income zonchao: you can airlift 100 children from Africa and let them live here ailoveyoom: I like how you specified low income lmao destrucules: With no legal status? They'd end up in one of Trump's concentration camps hikukomoru: Airlift them straight to Guantanamo zonchao: we buy them GOLDEN CARDS anathemaofmankind: 1.7k are willing to kill 100k people for a billion dollars <@378996537704841216> From a sample size of 8k. And 60% are willing to kill people in general destrucules: Or are you saying I should be a parent to 100 adopted children? destrucules: I doubt I'd be a good parent to one child. Hell, I'm a bad parent to myself zoermena: Real oooooooooog: you birthed urself???
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-things-are-in-motion-gif-20102320 memlaswaif: I don't think jgudy is actually somalian hikukomoru: Tbh to be into the singularity as a concept you probably have to be a bit nuts retrerox: cant wait AI BEV futurist_wizard: Singularity users have issues with life sweetievee__33649: jgudy probably doesnt even exist retrerox: Balding Escape Velocity sweetievee__33649: he seems made up sweetievee__33649: a check that box then metaldragon01: I doubt it even reaches 65 tbh. I'll be impressed at 60 hikukomoru: If only you were here when he was around futurist_wizard: I think I'd rather die than go bald memlaswaif: <@636544123096137738> what r ure thoughts on porteguese people futurist_wizard: But thats me personally sweetievee__33649: you talk about him like he was a parental figure 😭 hikukomoru: jgudy was also the #1 Elon hater spicy.lemonade: he said itl be realy competative hikukomoru: I loved that guy 🥺 I miss jgudy so much spicy.lemonade: 🤷‍♂️ sweetievee__33649: where is he now futurist_wizard: Got deported hikukomoru: Back to being a pirate fractalcomputer: Vague descriptive adjectives are something that everyone can provide given a dictionary and enough search time. futurist_wizard: Sailing the somalian seas sweetievee__33649: so long pirate hikukomoru: Posted a selfie on his insta of him hijacking a ship retrerox: Overall, not bad people sweetievee__33649: seems real retrerox: Atleast the ones i meet oooooooooog: if jgudy hosted a mincraft server i would have loved him even if he wanted to kill everyone on the planet hikukomoru: Short, hairy, simple minded retrerox: Although i dont go out too much futurist_wizard: His last selfie was getting bombed by a chinese war vessel retrerox: My only complain with portugal is so fucking god dam expensive retrerox: But i guess thats everywhere now spicy.lemonade: eh spicy.lemonade: nah spicy.lemonade: ai explained does opposite of hype spicy.lemonade: thats the point of his whole channel metaldragon01: Who said it would for simple bench?
st.sioux: im 25 hikukomoru: On death's door st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/matt-damon-old-ageing-matt-damon-gif-5219578 hey1_1hey: Remember to write me in your will ailoveyoom: Wtf I scrolled up the chat here 💀 ailoveyoom: Wild wellmeaningalien: then if everyone in the globe lied on the survey it balances out oooooooooog: top ten silverhawk quotes of all time sarik0497: No joke, I had no idea the average age of the server was so low. ailoveyoom: I thought you were 20 or younger ngl futurist_wizard: ailoveyoom: It's okay the mods are old (it balances out) 😈 futurist_wizard: Its like this for every server hikukomoru: Me too He also gave me teenage boy vibes like you wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o makes ART .wolfnacht: "He who scoffs at the sands of age shall find his own hourglass tipped, and the grains will bury his laughter beneath the weight of years." st.sioux: this is literally the worst thing anyone's ever said to me hikukomoru: I'm calling you youthful it's a compliment ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> Do you not feel old as a 20 year old tho oooooooooog: yeah, each year counts for a lot, don't scoff at how fricken OLD people are bro, just because they are SO OLD!!!!!!!! ailoveyoom: Want to be young again 😔 futurist_wizard: Who tf feels old at 20? hey1_1hey: I felt old at 16 bruh hikukomoru: I feel ancient hikukomoru: My back hurts .wolfnacht: i already feel old : ( hikukomoru: And I am already going senile hey1_1hey: I got knee and back pain. Shits crazy ailoveyoom: Sorry babe I bend you over too much futurist_wizard: I've literally felt the same, just as energetic as i was when i was 15 ailoveyoom: Sweet summer child 🥺 hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kid-anime-kilker-mystery-londs-gif-11242539997290792485 hey1_1hey: You're litterly the same age bro 😭 futurist_wizard: You kids need to exercise futurist_wizard: And sleep hey1_1hey: You're right. GROUP ORGY ailoveyoom: I think it's cause of your username, Nate sounds like an old guy name a1c4p0ne: Komoru your favorite teen femboy ailoveyoom: Lmfao hikukomoru: Weren't you 18? So you really were 16 after all
hikukomoru: Chinese as the n1 power wouldn't be that much different from America tbh maintcrew: name one chinese song or movie hikukomoru: Red Sun in the sky literallyvarane: It’s soft power that’s almost always coercive. It’s fundamentally different from even how the Soviets worked. metaldragon01: I'd disagree here. Trump has pushed EU and even Canada into seeing them more favorably maintcrew: damn she got me literallyvarane: There’s a difference between distrusting the US and trusting China. zonchao: Nae Ni maintcrew: kudos where due he recolonized africa metaldragon01: Sometimes doing nothing is just much better than fucking things up literallyvarane: This also literally has nothing to do with Xi lolol. hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> China hikukomoru: China conversation get in here zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hulk-who-woke-me-up-angry-mad-rage-gif-17934767 futurist_wizard: russia is complete trash compared to its EU counterparts, why do you think this literallyvarane: Bro doesn’t have genuine geopolitical takes just ignore it lol zonchao: i dont think democracy would work in russia zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035 futurist_wizard: why hikukomoru: Chinese Man's Burden > White Man's Burden literallyvarane: You’re just debating his Twitter timeline with him lolol. zonchao: too big, too many cultures, too many ethnicities....might work if they are broken into smaller countries <:shrudge:1244322155928223937> zonchao: lololololololol <:bruh:853253267953549382> ldj: There is a reason why an acronym exists for FAANG instead of just calling it “big tech” hikukomoru: Balkanization of Russia trojan09205: Where would yall shop for a few essentials Target Publix Whole Foods Or do a relay race hikukomoru: Isn't there some NATO guy that constantly shitposts about balkanizing Russia maintcrew: i get my goods hand delivered by pirates on the west coast futurist_wizard: what does this have to do with the effectiveness of democracy vs a dictatorship, should we compare the US to Russia on any metric? trojan09205: Maybe i can find some bahamian pirates here on the east coast hikukomoru: Homogeneity is a bonus but I don't think diversity is incompatible with democracy maintcrew: i have some atlantis folk they are in the business of racketeering ships bound for new york if u want zonchao: true hikukomoru: America and Canada are huge and diverse and they are still democracies zonchao: america is unique, canada is canada. maintcrew: canada is like 4 cities on one road hikukomoru: Canada is America but better zonchao: fake hikukomoru: They should just annex New England, which is the only good part of America literallyvarane: Faang actually makes sense tho because big tech is such a broad term you’re referring to simply the highest market cap. Frontier AI labs are literally known that lol. It’s like how you can say the automotive industry, and not FAMTS or some shit.
sieventer: Also I'm Europoor, how is this possible! _cloudost: I made a poll in the Gemini server and over 50% had Veo 2, this poll was done a few days ago okbut: <a:HUH:1212152642332266616> sieventer: Interesting sieventer: Anyway, the rate limit is super low, like, 2 or 3 videos XD, a day? idk _cloudost: 5 European users had Veo while 8 didn't sieventer: I guess for the first time they didn't prioritized Murican users sieventer: And it's more 'random' or other criteria _cloudost: Someone in the Gemini server said he could generate 125 videos a day.. _cloudost: Were they lying to me sieventer: WAT sieventer: 125 day for free? I doubt it. A couple days ago I made like 3 videos and I was rate limited sieventer: Let me try again _cloudost: Another said they could generate 10-12 sieventer: That's a big difference from 125 XD sieventer: _cloudost: And someone said Veo 2 can generate decapitation videos ( Gore ) sieventer: I only made 1, and 2 rejected "tries" after using 'femboy' in the prompt spicy.lemonade: Who will release ASI first spicy.lemonade: SSI nobranes: Me spicy.lemonade: OpenAI spicy.lemonade: Or Google nobranes: Asi will emerge from a schizos basement on two 5090s before the corps nobranes: But realistically I'd say Google or Meta nobranes: Llama 4 was an embarrassment but people sleep on their non llm work okbut: They should fix their search, especially on ig okbut: I can never find specific reels with any keywords retrerox: Are we really getting AGI before GTA 6? :kekw .0xunkn0wn: me 🙏 🥺 shirethedreamer: a gta game post agi would be next level christiskingrapturenxtmonth: it's called fdvr shirethedreamer: i think there is a bit of space between agi and fdvr 😅 hey1_1hey: Hey didgeridoos, I haven't existed for the past 24 hours, whats happned in AI sine then? shirethedreamer: were you having a mushroom trip? retrerox: AGI will believe humans love microtransactions because they spend so much money on them hey1_1hey: No, I was having a panic attack for 9-10 hours <:LOL:1187460826572005436> retrerox: Can AGI get me free nitro? hey1_1hey: If thats not a record I will be dammed shirethedreamer: ...are you ok?
ldj: in T3 chat. (which uses model APIs) ldj: This is the API with search grounding turned on metaldragon01: That def looks like how the thinking chains start zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/abustin/status/1918160373452292434? !! ailoveyoom: What's Grok Studio? zonchao: xai's take on canvas zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1918169566620074332? ldj: GPT-4 final words (from my friend who still has GPT-4-0314 access rn) spicy.lemonade: o7 ldj: gamerbath: it's the GPT-4-0314 people are making a big deal about dissapearing? gamerbath: idk why anyone would want to use gpt-4, but it's still in the API. just not the first version spicy.lemonade: where tf spicy.lemonade: is r2 gamerbath: sama kidnapped it, they are scaling it up and releasing it as GPT-5 ldj: 0314 is the first ever version yes gamerbath: 0314 2023 was the best pi day ever spicy.lemonade: remember when we thought gpt 5 would drop piday 24 gamerbath: winter 🥶 gamerbath: a lukewarm winter ldj: Also known as Autumn gamerbath: <a:emojithis_123:1325604119641194656> professorheaven: The singularity community believed in a rumour that 4.5 was dropping end of 23 <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: I realy hope we are the base world spicy.lemonade: and not a simulation spicy.lemonade: makes things more fun alejandrozarzuelo: FRFR alejandrozarzuelo: like where spicy.lemonade: deepseek clearly got spooked spicy.lemonade: by o3 spicy.lemonade: and 2.5 spicy.lemonade: had to push back alejandrozarzuelo: i lowkey agree, they NEED to be SOTA spicy.lemonade: they were supposed to deop before may alejandrozarzuelo: so its better to wait until they can be better than both o3 and g2.5 spicy.lemonade: by then we will have grok 3.5 spicy.lemonade: and gemini 2.5 ultra spicy.lemonade: are they gonna keep pushing back alejandrozarzuelo: didnt they drop a very good model for math proofs tho? spicy.lemonade: pushing back makes no sense at this point in the game
hey1_1hey: Yeah and? hikukomoru: Don't nerd emoji me hey1_1hey: You gonna kiss me or smth? Didn't think so hikukomoru: I love taking pics of myself I love looking at myself in the mirror too hikukomoru: I'm jsut so cute futurist_wizard: Was gonna reply with something crazy, ill hold restraint hey1_1hey: I mean mirror sure. I like doing that too since its just kinda surreal hey1_1hey: That makes it seem like I am transing all over the place hey1_1hey: (I am not) hey1_1hey: No no hey1_1hey: Go ahead hey1_1hey: I'll wait hikukomoru: You look more punchable than kissable hey1_1hey: I'll take either hey1_1hey: Both are nice <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600> hikukomoru: I want to push you into a locker hikukomoru: Fucking gay nerd futurist_wizard: After you've been beaten for several minutes you can be kissed hey1_1hey: Don't threaten me with a good time hey1_1hey: I need some to punch me hey1_1hey: Stat! hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: I need 2ccs of black eye 1cc of bruised arm and half a cc of praise go hey1_1hey: Nah thats just normal hey1_1hey: trust hey1_1hey: Or at the very least I am a lot more normal than other people I know hikukomoru: This meme reminds me of u hey1_1hey: Yeah it is hey1_1hey: I need that women-manipulation lifestyle 🥵 futurist_wizard: You put Elon Musk in knee socks and skirt, Zon's testicles will ignite theaiguy69420_89814: My god this server has gone to shit hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826 otub: we need a gooner purge otub: intellectual discussion only <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> hey1_1hey: Thats like everyone bruh hey1_1hey: There would be san and fractal left hey1_1hey: And at that point its just a DM otub: fractalcomputer: Hah. hey1_1hey: I would be in favour of the sex pest channel where all the sex pests go to do sex pest things
spicy.lemonade: openAI specifies spicy.lemonade: on their page spicy.lemonade: theres several flaws spicy.lemonade: that they aim to fix spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: etc spicy.lemonade: wheren theres laots and lots of elements in a page spicy.lemonade: it messes up spicy.lemonade: this example is kinda funny spicy.lemonade: the whole point of pixel art spicy.lemonade: is bc you dont wanna draw the whole render spicy.lemonade: saves time spicy.lemonade: so theres no point in turning the whole image to pixel sprites spicy.lemonade: just ask for direct fuly rendered sprites spicy.lemonade: drewsni: i feel like everyone is actually feelin the agi just a bit drewsni: except for fractal obv spicy.lemonade: art was all it took spicy.lemonade: bro native sound spicy.lemonade: will take it to next level spicy.lemonade: native video? spicy.lemonade: bro spicy.lemonade: imagine taliking to chatgpt avatar spicy.lemonade: in its own world spicy.lemonade: and it just does stuff in real time spicy.lemonade: "hey chatgpt do a backflip" spicy.lemonade: "sure thing" spicy.lemonade: "oh take a rocketship to mars and fight aliens" spicy.lemonade: i can see it spicy.lemonade: that will be so agi feeling spicy.lemonade: native video spicy.lemonade: "ooh ooh go through a scary forest at night lets explore" spicy.lemonade: in real time spicy.lemonade: dude spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: I saw this in the corner of my eye when mouse ran over spicy.lemonade: thought i was triping spicy.lemonade: say gex spicy.lemonade: im like wtf
_3sphere: Maybe they'll see the light and realize that they can easily make utopia for everyone 🥺 i_like_over_9000_turtles: I mean they have organ farms for VIPs I am not sure about that... hikukomoru: Source? futurist_wizard: Don't think anyone will control it hey1_1hey: Prob gonna be OS futurist_wizard: It'll likely be like the internet, just an abundance of intelligence okbut: Why? It's so much more efficient to overrule the wait times futurist_wizard: The toaster will be smarter than all of humanity hey1_1hey: My toaster is smarter than some people I know so its already on its way zoermena: More useful too joaoluz19: Saying that I wouldn't feel like a loser for having a Samantha. Almost all relationships I know are dysfunctional and there is a lot of room for improvement in that area. I think the appeal to nature suppresses all the blessing that waifus can bring and all this seen from a neurological point of view futurist_wizard: Don't know how we stop malicious actors ailoveyoom: Hope the AI takes over humanity instead 🥺 zoermena: I see. joaoluz19: Now what these studies have shown and what I have been expecting for some time is that we do indeed need things like FDVR or biological manufacturing. joaoluz19: Samantha is not enough hikukomoru: Benevolent dictator ASI mommy 😳 hey1_1hey: Oh welcome back from the... "Incident" hikukomoru: He was released from the gulag joaoluz19: I also find it quite nonsensical that many people are desperate to have extraordinary success before the singularity. I see how Jesus said: "My kingdom is not of this world." People get very neurotic about such a poor world. joaoluz19: Of course there are many important pre-singularity issues but pre-singularity vanity and ego are meaningless. okbut: Yeah I wonder what model has the best vision tool, I currently pass images with tough notation / small subscripts etc and request it to transcribe it to latex in a code block, then feed it to o3 in a separate window okbut: Sometimes 4o still messes them up joaoluz19: I think Google since it has things like notebookLM _3sphere: From horny jail _3sphere: What about the hedonic treadmill issue joaoluz19: It's like Dante's Inferno in a positive sense. joaoluz19: okbut: Not sure, specifically for the edge case of properly reasoning and transcribing small scripts in math, there's nothing benchmarking that specific case lmao okbut: Very easy to read a sigma as a naught joaoluz19: Hell is not defined just by being very bad, but by being cyclical. _3sphere: ? _3sphere: Me completing the posthuman upload Lust layer in 40 seconds joaoluz19: There are many possible solutions for this, both modifying and scaling the emotional/reward systems and dynamically altering the geometric space. joaoluz19: What I was talking about is basically constantly going back to the previous reward state via wireheading zoermena: You study neuroscience right? joaoluz19: I was doing scientific initiation, was starting to publish, left the research group before finishing. joaoluz19: For a long time my dream was to be a neuroengineer but I ended up becoming disillusioned with the neuroscience community and seeing that the AI community is much more ambitious, it didn't make sense for me to continue. joaoluz19: I've had a long discussion with people here, basically the problem is that the AI community dreams and works for AGI/ASI and there is very little investment in things like whole brain emulation and mind uploading. okbut: Neuroengineer is a crazy idea, like trying to learn all the high points in bio/chem/physics/electronics engineering all at once
hey1_1hey: Voice actors prob .wolfnacht: every creative job .wolfnacht: i doubt for 3d modelling till 2028 fractalcomputer: Why do my neighbours think that it is a good time to start drilling holes into their walls when it is 20:17 in the evening? hikukomoru: Isn't that just trans women futurist_wizard: hey1_1hey: Don't think so, you can be a guy, dress femenine and want to be called she/her hikukomoru: How tf does that work hey1_1hey: I mean thats the pysop that some guy convinced me on here futurist_wizard: This is gen z gender math hey1_1hey: Whats his name hikukomoru: Good No straggots allowed hey1_1hey: This shits diffucult hey1_1hey: Prob because its not coherrent and no one agrees on anything but hey ho hikukomoru: "Femboy with she/her pronouns" God please just call yourself a woman at that point futurist_wizard: Stop thinking about it so rigidly hey1_1hey: Yeah I hate straight people 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ hikukomoru: Isn't Danserk the guy trying to groom you hey1_1hey: Says the groomer zonchao: <@1272646380233560067> hey1_1hey: Danserk is trying to get me out of being groomed hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: You're alright ig, I've had better .wolfnacht: what if he's genderbent ? hey1_1hey: (Note, I have not been groomed before. This is a joke) .wolfnacht: hey1_1hey: I am extreamly bent hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: Mf looks pregnent hikukomoru: Sorry that was me hey1_1hey: YOUR PREGNENT? futurist_wizard: I've seen that person before .wolfnacht: maybe he is. 😨 zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> hey1_1hey: Mpreg 🥵 hey1_1hey: Oh yes hello zon hey1_1hey: We are talking about normal things .wolfnacht: he's a bit famous on tiktok, idk i don't use that shithole of a app hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> are you pregnant with Elon's baby zonchao: coming weeks
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293 spicy.lemonade: not friday spicy.lemonade: has to be thursday spicy.lemonade: always thursday memlaswaif: It's a 20000 dollar agent they better hope it's that smart ldj: never believe the price rumours lol ldj: even if the $20K is somewhat true, it's probably just for some super high rate limit version for maybe enterprise or something .wolfnacht: what's the difference between O3 full and O3 pro ? isn't pro = full ? christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this reminds me of the rumours around GPT-4 when they said it could code full programs ldj: O3 full just means "O3" just like O1 full just means "O1" ldj: just a way to specify that i'm not talking about the mini version _cloudost: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672594370096267294/1301147738829754388/Snapinsta.app_video_424AD90FDC276C3DB748555A7151088E_video_dashinit-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif spicy.lemonade: dont think its o3 pro spicy.lemonade: i think its some form of o4 spicy.lemonade: pro just makes it more accurate with answwers i feel abundantliving_: https://x.com/satyanadella/status/1912264311474631084 .wolfnacht: hyped!! but do i need to update windows for that ? 😭 ldj: the only models confirmed to be on the way in the next week or so are o3, o4-mini, and it's confirmed that O3 Pro is coming too. ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777> ldj: so idk .wolfnacht: is "pro" lesser in hiearchy than full 'O' or higher ? .wolfnacht: their naming is just soo confusing sieventer: Pro is higher than default version sieventer: o1-pro > o1 abundantliving_: It's likely in the 365 subscription or something. For enterprise subscription. Not sure it's there for individual free users sieventer: It's not ready yet .wolfnacht: so something like this pro > full > high > mid > low ? sieventer: "an early access research preview." .wolfnacht: i sometimes drool over the idea of automating my browser tasks with prompts sieventer: I'd say that high is better than default version sieventer: It just represents the time it spends thinking .wolfnacht: bytedance released UI-TARS but it's not that good but still better than claude whn it comes to using your compter .wolfnacht: dats even more confusing .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/thinking-thinking-emoji-infinite-infinite-zoom-droste-gif-26468372 ldj: high medium and low is just the amount of thinking effort ldj: The Pro model can probably have high medium and low settings so can then full model so can the mini model .wolfnacht: ldj: The models themselves in the interface will mainly just probably be this though: Pro > Full > Mini .wolfnacht: i wish we could use qwen for thinking and the tokens get transferred to SOTA. Then We'll acheive thinking-model utopia. .wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1k0d7oq/veo_2_i_wanted_to_generate_a_video_of_a/
sarik0497: According to the sources, they'll have the ability to translate for you. fractalcomputer: Still don't see it. spicy.lemonade: memlaswaif: congrats memlaswaif: whats he saying now lol spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Admit it <:ez:1136267305521774634> fractalcomputer: I still do not see it. spicy.lemonade: Ok you’re trolling fractalcomputer: No, I genuinely do not understand what you mean by "high quality AI art." spicy.lemonade: Art comparable to what was presented spicy.lemonade: Ie demon slayer manga fractalcomputer: Right, well, I'd disagree. spicy.lemonade: 💀 spicy.lemonade: How can you disagree fractalcomputer: Oh come on, post something you think is high in quality. spicy.lemonade: 4o is out fractalcomputer: And? spicy.lemonade: The generations are high quality fractalcomputer: I don't find them terribly interesting. fractalcomputer: Quite bland really. spicy.lemonade: That’s not the point spicy.lemonade: They are correct and follow Color theory anatomy shading and composition fractalcomputer: I thought we were talking about high quality art. fractalcomputer: Those are the rudiments of good (realistic) art. spicy.lemonade: How come you’re always arguing semantics spicy.lemonade: In the screenshot I’m very clearly talking about how it looks fractalcomputer: I'm not arguing semantics. Your arguments just aren't terribly convincing. fractalcomputer: Sure, significant progress has been made, but that will not make me drool on the floor for OpenAI's manure. zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dr-facilier-shadow-man-princess-and-the-frog-disney-minor-setback-in-a-major-operation-gif-18720670 zonchao: https://x.com/psychosort/status/1906067605175325019? spicy.lemonade: Anti ai art _cloudost: did openai disable the ghibili art style? spicy.lemonade: That’s what I’m think _cloudost: or are those rumors hikukomoru: I don’t think so I Ghiblied myself not too long ago without issue zonchao: > Murati had raised some of these issues directly with Altman months earlier, and Altman had responded by bringing the head of HR to their one-on-one meetings for weeks until she finally told him she didn’t intend to share her feedback with the board. lmaooo _cloudost: someone said yesterday that it was disabled _cloudost: idk if thats true' memlaswaif: I think they were lying
retrerox: just tell me average american ailoveyoom: Plump 🥰 ailoveyoom: Bear 😏 alejandrozarzuelo: (thats a bit too generous) alejandrozarzuelo: lol zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hippoyawn-hippo-gif-20132198 okbut: It's a hoodie and shoulders what are yall even yappin on retrerox: I didnt need to be that "Specific" before retrerox: but its fair gamerbath: yea exactly! and about the ethics, you don't need to write a disclosure on your steam page if you used unpaid human labour or AI (Actual Indians), so why do you need to do it with AI? I think steam just wants to play it safe I guess zonchao: did you try it with the new prompt st.sioux: steam is le wholesome billionaire megacorpo okbut: It might just be that it varies depending on the image contents, i.e. how much the model can replicate the features in the image zonchao: it could also be him running out of gens ailoveyoom: Are you one of those people who only buy games from GOG st.sioux: no retrerox: A few days ago afriend "peruanized" himself retrerox: That was so fucking funny alejandrozarzuelo: face alejandrozarzuelo: the face changes crazily with weight and fat percentages hikukomoru: I knew you were fat alejandrozarzuelo: a shredded guy has a completely different face to a skinny or fat guy hikukomoru: Gordo retrerox: queestion mark retrerox: I mean i play league okbut: That's crazy Give me my BMI retrerox: thats makes me fat automatically st.sioux: i only purchase my games from handrcrafted organic artist game makers st.sioux: i get them delivered by mail alejandrozarzuelo: your face looks like you are at 22? in the healthy range i gave you 22 and not 20 because it seems that you weigh more than you appear, you seem somewhat fit okbut: st.sioux: chat goes crazy when they start talking about fat people hikukomoru: It’s because Alejandro is fat phobic okbut: Is that real or troll zonchao: ? okbut: Nvm I thought that was suggesting it switched to DALL-E zonchao: i was ailoveyoom: What's the context for this img 😭 okbut: I couldn't find the creator I was looking for and didn't wanna spend more than 3 seconds for some memehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6MBY4bGe4o st.sioux: brainrot videos
popsiclejohnithan: My man craves conflict. .wolfnacht: wow, no one asked me 😔 -# time to release the gens in chat fractalcomputer: Indeed. precariousworlds.: Yeah does seem like a glaring contradiction but homosexuality as an accepted aspect of western society is not going away Besides there really shouldn't be discrimination based on sexuality. Let adults love who they want, while ideally you would want a totally straight society it's pretty clear that some people are born with attraction to the same sex and it is inhumane to deny people that love At the same time you don't want too large of a portion of society to become uninterested in reproduction popsiclejohnithan: precariousworlds.: real popsiclejohnithan: Battlebeast ahh. zonchao: how could you fractalcomputer: Sure. But as you might have already deduced from my vocalisations, I do not care for questions involving certain modal auxiliaries like "should" or "ought to". I am bored. I want to see conflict. ailoveyoom: You could always just move to a religious third world country precariousworlds.: based zonchao: hi fractalcomputer: Users of Grindr are quite often retarded. precariousworlds.: Go to the Congo and become a warlord Fractal problem solved zonchao: my people precariousworlds.: Online dating as a whole is retarded precariousworlds.: might be a stretch but idk i think turning the most basic and essential function of an organism into a fucking game regulated by algorithms is maybe not the best idea popsiclejohnithan: We should just have orgies in the streets. fractalcomputer: Well yes, I know what you are and that you speak from experience. But it's not just about me. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350 hikukomoru: You can't post something like that and not expect me to laugh hikukomoru: But I'll behave hikukomoru: For now fractalcomputer: I saw a clip of this African American man in Mongolia. popsiclejohnithan: how dare you sick react me Precarious, Slaanesh would be disappointed. fractalcomputer: You are free to express your unorthodox moral ideas here. I don't judge, and I'm sure you can defend yourself in arguments. precariousworlds.: unironically fractalcomputer: I can't see how you would enjoy their presence. I've tried chatting with my local homosexuals, but oftentimes our worlds are simply far too different to allow for any meaningful contact. popsiclejohnithan: These images have been one of the greatest gifts from A.I. precariousworlds.: microsoft sam rizz didnt work out 😔 😔 😔 fractalcomputer: What? precariousworlds.: ? hikukomoru: It's only the most basic and essential function if you're a caveman maybe fractalcomputer: What is Microsoft Sam Rizz? precariousworlds.: how your messages read alejandrozarzuelo: passionate? that seems hard to believe but i guess i dont know you fractalcomputer: I don't understand. futurist_wizard: Users of Grindr have serious issues, i would never use such an app precariousworlds.: fractalcomputer: Oh yes, Alejandro, I am as willing to engage in homoromantic activities as you are.

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