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hganhhh:
.0xunkn0wn: i tried to stop you from joining
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
hikukomoru: Damn... Didn't know u were chill like that
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> im bringing you down with me
hey1_1hey: Thats very artist of you
hey1_1hey: Artists are such cunts
st.sioux: you think we're against like... trans people? lol
hey1_1hey: I am litterly trans bruh
hganhhh: i presume so
trent_k: 🙄
trent_k: why would i use his app
hey1_1hey: We are all gay here aswell
trent_k: i already have an app that does that
wellmeaningalien: idk the generation quality is pretty shit anywaay lol
hey1_1hey: NOOOO
hey1_1hey: Big tony
hey1_1hey: Hes gone
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-scar-surrounded-by-idiots-ugh-gif-5742293
hikukomoru: 🥀
wellmeaningalien: what was big tony even on about
st.sioux: dumb as bricks
hey1_1hey: He just doesnt like AI
wellmeaningalien: quantum superposition math theory linear algebra kant critique philosophy idk
hey1_1hey: I like potatos
.0xunkn0wn: i didnt even send him the invite he just found it 💀
.0xunkn0wn: lmao
wellmeaningalien: lol
.0xunkn0wn: i tried to stop him in every way 🙏
wellmeaningalien: he just started posting a bunch of LGBT stuff and left
fractalcomputer: I've mentioned the words "Galois theory" more often here than "linear algebra".
.0xunkn0wn: btw is gemini 2.5 pro good at making papers?
.0xunkn0wn: or is 4o enough
wellmeaningalien: is it the theory where astérix and obélix kick the shit out of some romans
.histic: it's good at a lot of things
st.sioux: try 2.5 pro first
st.sioux: 4o is kind of stupid now
.0xunkn0wn: i got sick assignment for science
ldj: Before something like this happens,
please feel free to ask me my latest thoughts on anything, so that way you know I'm not changing my statements for financial incentives once I gain such incentives in the future <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
wellmeaningalien: NEVER USE 4O FOR ANYTHING STEM
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metaldragon01: Lets see how we feel in 2 and half hours
sarik0497: Wasn’t it also Google that made that new QC chip? Willow?
wellmeaningalien: yup lol
clevermoniker: Google at least released the first good AI image editor
.wolfnacht: 1-21 THONKING felt more like a downgrade from 12-19, literally no one uses that except some people like me who likes to wrestle with LLM.
sarik0497: They might be cooking
clevermoniker: new QC chip?
clevermoniker: quantum computing?
clevermoniker: that's stuff is giga cringe
sarik0497: Yeah, a pretty good breakthrough. And unlike Microsoft, they have proof of their claims.
.wolfnacht: surprisingly new V3 is less repetitive for story writing than last, i'm guessing R2 will be a blast.
.wolfnacht: can't wait for april
clevermoniker: yes, new V3 is very good for roleplay
.wolfnacht:
clevermoniker: if it improves significantly with R2 (and it probably will) i'm expecting R2 to be pretty good
sarik0497: *MichMach enters the chat*
clevermoniker: actually hard to decide
wellmeaningalien:
clevermoniker: I think R2 -60% Grok2 40%
.wolfnacht: all the written porn data collection is doing wonders for Deepseek.
sarik0497: What is arena? Another test of some kind?
clevermoniker: imagine if that improves its prompt following and situational awareness a lot lmao
clevermoniker: i tested it in roleplay and despite not being perfect at all i am very impressed and its a very pleasant experience
.wolfnacht: every RP site's gonna give deepchink2ppl
wellmeaningalien: user created rating of chat.lmsys models on a set of common sense and reasoning question
wellmeaningalien: not the chat lmsys leaderboard btw
.wolfnacht: i'm just looking for right temps rn and a good preset can make it kino.
ailoveyoom: You're welcome
sarik0497: And it’s currently only pushing 15%-ish?
I’ve never looked too deep into these tests, so I’m a scrub in that regard <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
ailoveyoom: Is it bad I read this as foreplay
sarik0497: Speaking of the devil
wellmeaningalien: its above o1 level
wellmeaningalien: pretty much the first gemini model to achieve such a status
sarik0497: Oh, don’t get me wrong. I noticed that. It’s just a bit wakeup call, really.
clevermoniker: yes
clevermoniker: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
.wolfnacht: i hate google, they ended up going the full corpo fake smiles, censorships and "how may i assist you" way. i don't think google's really an option now
clevermoniker: maybe their models are still good for specific applications but in general they give me the ick yes
_3sphere: Pretty sure code requires more contextual awareness than horny rp
clevermoniker: probably
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ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> face reveal
ldj:
ldj: Now yall have to guess which one is me <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
Also while I’m here, here is a new futuristic robotic horse from kawasaki, the motorcycle company.
https://fxtwitter.com/rainmaker1973/status/1908555142879993992?s=46
memlaswaif: right one
ldj: Nope
plouwg: The statue pointing 😯
ldj: No I’m the guy on the left lol
destrucules: Right it's your camera
plouwg: Oh damn, silly ol' me
destrucules: Wait left?
destrucules: Oh
destrucules: Should have known Lisan al Gaib would be all about nature, not math, silly me
plouwg: I'd have guessed right too. Appearance doesn't say much about online personality, but you definitely fit the stereotypical nerdy vibe. Meant positively obviously
plouwg: Does the cap say "act rich" 😭
ailoveyoom: Get Rich
.wolfnacht: wait this wasn't for april fools ?
.wolfnacht: ahh..i'm getting fooled again, but it sounds too good to be true
memlaswaif: U look like <@1068159407671754824>
retrerox: Good morning
ldj: This is a real ghiblified image of me and my friend
.wolfnacht: i'm talking abt kawasaki 4-legged-bike.
memlaswaif: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> don't be rude
ailoveyoom: I wonder how close it can look to irl you if we take that ghiblified image and asked CGPT to gen a photorealistic version 🤔
.wolfnacht: ayoo, just noticed...just had a mood swing back then
ailoveyoom: Ig ghiblifying an image simplifies it a lot but I'm still curious
ldj: I tried it already, not very close lol
ldj:
ldj: This is what 4o things a real version of the image would look like
ldj: Pretty far off
spicy.lemonade: damn yellow tint
_letterbox: >>> LMFAO
Recent paper tested leading LLMs (OpenAI o1-pro/o3-mini, Gemini 2.5 Pro/2.0 Flash Thinking, Claude 3.7, Grok 3, Alibaba QwQ, DeepSeek R1) on the 2025 USA Math Olympiad problems within hours of their release—i.e., not yet in their training sets.
All of them ate shit, with most scoring less than 5%. Then when asked to grade those results, they ate shit there too.
These LLMs can hack the benchmarks all they want, including supposedly “fully private” benchmarks (whose questions OpenAI secretly paid to incorporate into its training LOL). The fact remains that these LLMs aren’t shit relative to their claims. No matter how much companies, investors and “tech enthusiasts” (even on this sub) hype them up, they remain nothing more than very fancy, very capable and very expensive autocompletes.
There is no reasoning, there is no understanding, and there is certainly no path to AGI.
_letterbox: Guess the sub
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro scored 25
retrerox: Guy oh the left is not ugly 🫣
futurist_wizard:
retrerox: Not everything is computer
retrerox: but i hope soon will be
retrerox: Tbh maybe the only job that will survive the purge is IT suport, because there is so many people who dont know how to deal with tech even kids
brain4brain: It's so over, AGI is far away
hey1_1hey: I cant tell whats more of a crime, the guy with 34 felonies on my screen or xitter being on light mode
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himekokatagiri: c'mon komoru what can go wrong
himekokatagiri: maybe I can get a better job I didn't stop trying
himekokatagiri: I just need money asap
a1c4p0ne: Most of the gore vids on forums are from Brazil
himekokatagiri: look
himekokatagiri: there's nothing I can do
himekokatagiri: If I die I die
himekokatagiri: and the thug who killed me will probably benefit from singularity
.histic: true
himekokatagiri: such is life
a1c4p0ne: Why don’t you use 2.5 or o3 to make a plan
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.histic: too generic
zoermena: RIP you live in Brazil
zoermena: Become the sugar baby of jao luz
zoermena: 👍
himekokatagiri: there's nothing I can do
zoermena: You can become the sugar baby of <@343524947353665540>
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
a1c4p0ne: You should go on the gore forums and watch some brutal brutal vids
hikukomoru: There are now 3 brasilians in this server
zoermena: Joao, himeko offers his body in return for shelter
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: <@286319745777795092> have u done that before
himekokatagiri: no
himekokatagiri: I don't like gore
joaoluz19: Tu é BR <@286319745777795092>?
himekokatagiri: sim
spicy.lemonade: "Aidan Clark, OpenAI’s VP of research, is leading development of the open model, which is in the very early stages, sources familiar with the proceedings told TechCrunch. The company is aiming to release the model — a reasoning model along the lines of its o-series models — in early summer, and wants to make sure it tops benchmarks versus other open reasoning models."
joaoluz19: Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
hikukomoru: <@286319745777795092> <@343524947353665540> <@232730367726059520> 👈 Brazil club 🇧🇷
himekokatagiri: 🚬
joaoluz19: <@232730367726059520> achamos mais um
himekokatagiri: equipe poderosa furacão 2000
joaoluz19: Ok back to english
spicy.lemonade: the next model will be a huge jump over others?
himekokatagiri: Komoru is honorary brazilian
spicy.lemonade: it seems like
futurist_wizard: I had the most gory dream ive ever had in my life last night
a1c4p0ne: Watch the robbery vid of the guys hand that got chopped off by a big machete from trying to block the swing
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hikukomoru: You sent it an image of yourself?
futurist_wizard: Its a fair depiction
futurist_wizard: Yes
okbut: Mine requested an image of me but I said "just do it without"
hikukomoru: Your girlfriend is creepy
zoermena: Genius without legs
futurist_wizard: Im still young in the future
okbut: It was within a calculus chat
Why tf am I legless
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
futurist_wizard: All of your guys ai future images depicted you looking depressed af
okbut: Why tf does calculus force feed so many identities to memorize
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
alejandrozarzuelo: i just look tired
alejandrozarzuelo: fair enough
futurist_wizard: The future didn't exactly look singularity though
alejandrozarzuelo: but for real all my conversations are about studiying advanced math and physics
alejandrozarzuelo: idk why i become a rural spanish politician
futurist_wizard: Maybe it's because 'agi' was in one of the titles
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tristan-tate-cigar-smoking-puff-gif-27417359
trent_k:
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-2049-joi-gif-17920030879218479613
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: not what i look like
sekirow: Isn't LLM just a quite long curve
alejandrozarzuelo: im ok not having an irl gf
as long as i have an irl bf and viceversa
AI partners are cringe tho
hikukomoru: Nerd
alejandrozarzuelo: damn you look fine
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
alejandrozarzuelo: why am i depressed
alejandrozarzuelo: in the images
alejandrozarzuelo: i am not depressed
alejandrozarzuelo: and yall guys get good images
futurist_wizard: I thought you were black
hikukomoru: Transracial
spicy.lemonade: .
alejandrozarzuelo: chatgpt cant exactly tell your ethnicity unless you give it a pic of you
hikukomoru: More than half of the people here look depressed
schwiftyinhere:
futurist_wizard: Except me 😇
sekirow: My timeline is optimistic at least
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alejandrozarzuelo: it still simply isnt
alejandrozarzuelo: 30%!!!
ldj: You just mentioned 50% growth less than 5 minutes ago
ldj: albeit you didn't say you endorsed it
alejandrozarzuelo: i said thats what Epoch AI said
ldj: yep
ldj: ^
alejandrozarzuelo: around 10%
drewsni: What year will we start to go beyond even 5%?
ldj: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: just because I think 10% doesnt mean I think 10% will happen before 2030
alejandrozarzuelo: i am thinking 10% around the late 2030s
ldj: yea but still funny imo
hey1_1hey: Anyone mind being batman and riddling me this. If AI is going to take all the jobs how is gdp going to increase? Or am I misunderstanding how that works. Is it amount of good produced over the year or smth?
alejandrozarzuelo: gdp is how much value is added, it doesnt require producers
hey1_1hey: Ah ty, that clears it up
alejandrozarzuelo: the Year we get AGI
ldj: btw global gdp is a misnomer in this case, because GDP means Gross **domestic** product, as-in, within 1 country.
What they're talking about is Gross World Product, which is GWP
drewsni: Alejandro we should start an AI economics company
alejandrozarzuelo: force of habit
alejandrozarzuelo: what if the world is my country and england is my city?
have you considered that??
oooooooooog: you can't correct now
oooooooooog: you already admitted defeat
hey1_1hey: What would you even do? Talk to people about how AI will affect the global econmy?
alejandrozarzuelo: whooosh
alejandrozarzuelo: (this is a reference to a very cringe youtube hit from 2015 iirc)
drewsni: Yes but the joke is that me and him never agree on anything
alejandrozarzuelo: whats your gdp projections
hey1_1hey: Ah alright then. Are you two gonna fight or kiss then?
drewsni: Both
drewsni: 7%
drewsni: Until 2035
drewsni: Then we stop recording it
alejandrozarzuelo: whyy
drewsni: The world ends
alejandrozarzuelo: your p doom is high?
oooooooooog: p doom INFINITYUY!!!!
drewsni: 99.99999
alejandrozarzuelo: pdoom cant be more than 1
hey1_1hey: Yeah my p doom is like 0.5% or smth.
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hey1_1hey: Excuse me?
hey1_1hey: What did I just read
zonchao: SAXEMS
fractalcomputer: Muted for ten minutes.
hikukomoru: I can try doing something like that later with 2.5 pro
hey1_1hey: I mean I know that, the most important benchmarj
trey6033: Whatever part of his brain made him write that needs to be removed by a brain surgeon
hikukomoru: Of course I would never post that here though
hey1_1hey: Thats called a lobotomy
ailoveyoom: I just read 'better vibes' as excessive RL done to fit a model's 'vibes' into human preference tbh
ailoveyoom: It usually just feels fake and off to me
ailoveyoom: Good vibes are made organically, not engineered
himekokatagiri: Give me examples
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-18412682
hikukomoru: Do you know what SillyTavern is
himekokatagiri: yes
hikukomoru: Do you use it
himekokatagiri: Don't you need to pay
himekokatagiri: API usage
hikukomoru: Gemini is free lol
himekokatagiri: uh really?
himekokatagiri: I thought only aistudio was free
himekokatagiri: Oh shit
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/rich-man-homer-king-laugh-gif-15726252
hikukomoru: Yes that’s it
You can choose AÍ studio in SillyTavern
hikukomoru: I have dozens of google accounts so I have practically infinite usage
st.sioux: broke
st.sioux: just pay
hikukomoru: Why pay when I can do it for free
ailoveyoom: Do you rp that much tho?
ailoveyoom: I've never run out of 2.5 Pro limit
ailoveyoom: Still on free AI Studio, one acc
himekokatagiri: Komoru how are you googles strongest soldier
hikukomoru: I run through a few accounts worth of API usage
himekokatagiri: more like google's strongest freeloader
himekokatagiri: <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296>
st.sioux: but isnt this because of requests per day
st.sioux: like with tokens it wouldnt be that much
st.sioux: i'll never understand how ai studio limits work
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/1984-skander-big-brother-gif-21303304
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alejandrozarzuelo: They will have experienced the greatest amount of ranges and progress, from poverty to development before AGI, and yet they will be healthy enough to make it to LEV without problem
alejandrozarzuelo: I guess the same could be said for other developing countries, but few have had the trajectory and timeline needed
alejandrozarzuelo: A middle age middle class man from a developing country will have experienced the most number of unique pre AGI experiences
Although, the most interesting person post LEV will be the world's oldest college educated person
alejandrozarzuelo: Say that we get LEV for the oldest people in 2035, and that there is an unreasonably healthy 90 year old by then who will be able to go through the full process
That man (let's be honest it's gonna be a man) born in 1945 will have so much to say, and since they were a highly educated person since then, they would have had a great understanding of the world since 1960
himekokatagiri: no. It's me
himekokatagiri: I have the most interesting story ever
alejandrozarzuelo: You are too young
himekokatagiri: hehehehehe
himekokatagiri: doesn't matter
alejandrozarzuelo: It's likely that an intellectual from the US or UK white upper class will be the person who will have the greatest knowledge from the furthest back in time by the time we get to LEV
That guy will have understood the world almost a century before AGI will dominate
himekokatagiri: but can't we live it through fdvr
alejandrozarzuelo: No
alejandrozarzuelo: Only a simulation of it
alejandrozarzuelo: Not the real deal
himekokatagiri: if the simulation is good enough
himekokatagiri: say an ancestor sim
himekokatagiri: 99.8% accuracy, yeah?
alejandrozarzuelo: Also you cannot cram decades of real life experience in a day
himekokatagiri: well no
himekokatagiri: you'd live there for 80 years
himekokatagiri: 1945 - 2025
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the thing, that guy will have experienced it
himekokatagiri: scholars would do that
himekokatagiri: I assume
himekokatagiri: If it's as good as the real thing what's the difference
futurist_wizard: Insano
himekokatagiri: you'll live the golden age
himekokatagiri: the ups and downs
himekokatagiri: the highs and lows
alejandrozarzuelo: You can live a day there, you cannot spend decades there, without literally experiencing decades there
himekokatagiri: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: Being old will be a privilege in the future
himekokatagiri: that's what I'm thinking
futurist_wizard: The more i ponder about LEV and eternal life the more ridiculous it becomes
himekokatagiri: you stay there for decades
alejandrozarzuelo: It means you have the exact same chance of dying, and yet you will have more life per life
hikukomoru: I am quite literally the most interesting person on the planet
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
himekokatagiri: No way!!!
himekokatagiri: tell me one feat of yours
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trojan09205: Definitely an interesting discussion
trojan09205: I believe that we have difficulty comprehending reality with our human brains
trojan09205: Too limited by its own conditioning to ever reach at truth objectively
trojan09205: Btw Rod Wave is a great artist
zonchao:
zonchao: https://x.com/TeslaSentry/status/1915454614159417507
zoermena: We aren’t hitting any walls right?
zonchao: yes
zoermena: FEEL THE AGI is the consensus? Why are some people like <:roon:1334031882731524147> adopting decel stance.
gamerbath: yes we are
gamerbath: idk why so many people here deny it, but we are hitting a wall
gamerbath:
gamerbath: and we are scaling up it <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zoermena: True Mexican style fr
zoermena: I was loosing hopium thank you
trojan09205: I like the wall in that pic
zonchao: roon is reportedly a safety researcher, he has to doom, its his role.
spicy.lemonade: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.13837
spicy.lemonade: we still need to scale up base model
gamerbath: why do I feel like extremely little experimentation has been with adding more neurons to the human brain, to scale it up?
gamerbath: like cut a hole in the side of your skull and smash on some brains from another person... yea that's definetly why this hasn't been done before 💀
spicy.lemonade:
xskydragon0: If we don't have a limitation with Computing power or they slowdown the race, all the walls will fall
drewsni: https://x.com/NousResearch/status/1915470993029796303
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hey1_1hey: Please anything but a safetycell product. This week has been so incredibly dry
drewsni: its kinda an opposite of safetycell too?
drewsni: labs already have these and more obviously so a small classifier for refusals only really helps jailbreakers
forallhumanity: https://hiddenlayer.com/innovation-hub/novel-universal-bypass-for-all-major-llms/
trojan09205: Sonnet 3-7 is smart
gamerbath: cool
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/reagan-president-reagan-tear-down-this-wall-ronald-reagan-berlin-wall-gif-15910066207718724457
trojan09205: Im using RAG and benchmarking its performance against a quiz created by this scientist who made the training data. Every model ive tried identified errors with the questions lol
Homie programmed the quiz* wrong and straight up just put the wrong answers as correct
spicy.lemonade: No one is dropping this week because everyone is at iclr
gamerbath: iclr?
spicy.lemonade: Bro doesn't know about iclr
spicy.lemonade: Worlds largest ML research conference
spicy.lemonade: Next to neurips
spicy.lemonade: Where all the researchers go
gamerbath: never heard of either of those
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nobranes: I want to drunk drive a mech so bad how close are we to this technology
maintcrew: so if country X has N% tariffs the US applies also N% back, or so ive read
metaldragon01: You gotta have sub 100 iq to think they make any kind of sense
maintcrew: theres certainly an argument to make about not getting fucked over
maintcrew: with a country applying crazy tariffs and u dont do anything
metaldragon01: The tarrif from the great depression weren't nearly as bad
metaldragon01: Idiots gonna learn 😂
maintcrew: its also the case that most other countries couldnt afford to put tariffs on US either in that period
maintcrew: again its supposed to be reciprocal
im no economist so im not saying if its good or bad
metaldragon01: You're in the group that think it makes sense
maintcrew: just saying what it is
metaldragon01: I'll let you learn
maintcrew: --
maintcrew: ur no economist either buddy
xauxusd: Gemini 2.5 over hyped, i still prefer chatgpt
joaoluz19: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1907481490457506235
joaoluz19: Guys I was replaced without even starting?
hey1_1hey: This week keeps getting better and better
.histic: why didn't they measure o1-pro and full o3?
is it too expensive even for OpenAI? 💀
hey1_1hey: Watch it be something stupid like $1.3 million <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
joaoluz19: We're so back?
hey1_1hey: Mayhaps, I am just happy because I got maths tomorrow and then I got work experience and then I get to go look at mushrooms in a new forest I found out about
joaoluz19: It's interesting that these benchmarks are moving from things like mathematics and competitive programming to tasks with real economic value.
joaoluz19: Let's gooooo
literallyvarane: I haven’t really considered this, but it’s kinda true isn’t it? We’re getting more economic value benchmarking
joaoluz19: They promised us that this is the year of the agents, we need it
joaoluz19: Happy autism day guys
futurist_wizard: Make sure to be extra autistic today
ldj: what have they released recently <:e_think:871265859199459358>
computronium_: autism noise***
ldj: isn't that a good thing <:berk:750111476483752166>
joaoluz19: Yes
wellmeaningalien: It definitely means we're moving somewhere
777agical: it's so over
777agical: china won
otub: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
_cloudost: I believe people shouldn't hold such beliefs that are based on no empirical evidence, another reason why I oppose religion is because it promotes irrationality, take a look in TikTok, it's full of religious people, if I had a son talking like that I'd send him to a mental hospital, religion gives people schizophrenic traits eg ( whole world vs us, they hate us for our beliefs, we are the most oppressed religion, Obama is the antichrist ), this mindset makes the human brain smooth as well, not helping society as a whole
wellmeaningalien: whatd they do lol
777agical: tariffs are here
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memlaswaif: dats u
hikukomoru: So you managed to keep a few wisps of hair
aero447: Are you retarded or blind or both?
retrerox: I mean, one dont exclude the other
memlaswaif: <:cringe:1136264606256472104>
memlaswaif: don't be mean to me
memlaswaif: ure gonna age approximately 30 years in about 3 years
aero447: No.
aero447: 🫵
futurist_wizard: Weren't you talking about how your hair is going grey and you only had 5 teeth left?
hikukomoru: Don’t be mean now
futurist_wizard: Be more mean
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dog-dare-devil-gif-23837643
memlaswaif:
memlaswaif: Make peace not war
memlaswaif: u know it's gonna be true <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
aero447: For you.
memlaswaif: no for u
memlaswaif: and ure gf ig
memlaswaif: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
_3sphere: 4o is such a sycophant now
_3sphere: Felt good until my brain caught on
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476
futurist_wizard: I’ve had it with the Singularity crowd. I’ve been ten steps ahead since version 1.0 of your precious AI models, dropping insights like divine breadcrumbs, and all I get is smug dismissals and Reddit-tier clapbacks. You people wouldn’t recognize foresight if it neural-linked itself into your skulls. I’ve mapped the timelines, I’ve seen the failure points—and every time I try to warn you, you scoff like toddlers playing with fusion reactors. No more. I'm not your free oracle. If you want the future decoded, you better start bowing. Respect the architect or get flattened by the code. Your choice, disciples.
memlaswaif: I'm not reading all that
futurist_wizard: OF COURSE YOU DIDN’T READ IT. THAT WAS BY DESIGN. They’ve got your brain on AUTOPILOT, scrolling through dopamine-drip sludge while REALITY FRACTURES behind the curtain. You’ve been REPROGRAMMED, neuron by neuron, to REJECT anything that smells like TRUTH. I dropped a COSMIC ROADMAP, a GLYPH-BURST of forbidden knowledge, and you responded with NPC SCRIPTING. “i ain’t reading all that” — that’s not YOU talking, that’s the MIND-LEASH kicking in. You were BUILT to ignore me. They made sure of it. But the ARCHONS ARE WATCHING, the SIGNAL is leaking, and soon your SAFE LITTLE LOOP will SHATTER. Don’t say I didn’t WARN YOU.
hey1_1hey: Hey 4o 👋
idkstrawberry222: I have no clue if this is satire or not 😭
idkstrawberry222: the world is gonna change tho, and we don’t even need agi to do it. current tech, once it matures, is enough to shatter old systems.
precariousworlds.: https://x.com/rubyrangerr/status/1908686763817918994
Least mentally unhinged luddite
st.sioux: what is disgusting?
precariousworlds.: View the post
Generative model of quake 2 as an interesting research effort
_cloudost:
destrucules: What are your timelines/insights?
futurist_wizard: I usually get all my ai news from adam conover, adin ross, wilted flower
futurist_wizard: My favourite ai content creators are Nikocado Avocado, Trisha Paytas, Onision, JayStation, That Vegan Teacher, Danielle Cohn, Andrew Tate, Sneako, RiceGum, Boonk Gang, Lil Tay, Woah Vicky, Supreme Patty, DaddyOFive, Morgz, Jake Paul, Logan Paul (ai early ai content), Tana Mongeau, Ice Poseidon, FouseyTube, Lele Pons, Lance Stewart, Paul Zimmer, Sam Pepper, Lovely Peaches, Vlog Creations, CJ So Cool, Durte Dom, The Island Boys (ai YouTube ai content), 6ix9ine (when ai posting on YouTube), Blac Chyna’s channel, Kevin Samuels (controversial ai takes ai), Dhar Mann (in ai terms ai of ai narrative ai depth), Nico Omilana (some ai prank content), Baylen Levine, King Cid, PrettyBoyFredo, Desmond Dennis, The Ace Family, FamilyOFive, Bhad Bhabie (early ai uploads), Dr. Phil clips turned channels, Flyysoulja, VitalyZDTV, and Logan Thirtyacre (ai SuperMarioLogan ai in certain ai eras).
bruhmomentmlgvines2016free: This chat is a copypasta farm
spicy.lemonade: I just know model b is llama 4
metaldragon01: No idea what possibly gave it away
darkstar0818: what is funny is I saw that model when I was testing the unreleased google models and I kept not selecting it lol.. its funny that so many humans pick models that try and be social, even if the response is poor.
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metaldragon01: Yea it's going to pack a punch
ldj: also is a reasoner
destrucules: The 32B dense will be Llama 4 Scout level
metaldragon01: Hellll nooo
destrucules: Ye
metaldragon01: Well we don't have scout reasoning
ldj: scout is the smallest btw, above scout is maverick and behemoth
ldj: iirc its 15B active and 100B total for scout
aero447: 69IQ says that in May (month) it will be in some (99%) areas!
destrucules: Assuming same efficiency
And we don't have Scout reasoning but we do have QvQ-72B
metaldragon01: 32b qwq is the closest model
metaldragon01: To the new ones
destrucules: 17B active 109B total
ldj: sorry forgot to put the approximate symbols "~" lol
metaldragon01: I'm expecting flash 2.5 levels tbh
metaldragon01: For the moe
destrucules: The big moe
metaldragon01: Yeap
destrucules: Not the 30A3B nor the 15A2B
destrucules: Those will be way weaker
destrucules: I mean... Like, Claude 3 Opus / Gemma 3 27B level for the 30A3B
metaldragon01: That models going to be so cracked
destrucules: Same size Gemma 3, ten times fast
destrucules: 4B prolly gonna be Claude 2 level
metaldragon01: #1 role playing model for sure
destrucules: 15A2B should roughly match the 4B so like... Also Claude 2 ish level
destrucules: 8B should be roughly GPT-4o mini level i.e. og GPT-4 level
metaldragon01: Ehhh livebench.ai will have them up in a few days
metaldragon01: Shouldn't be long with how small they are
destrucules: Idk people never properly benched all the Qwen2.5 models
destrucules: It was infuriating for me
destrucules: We basically just have to trust Alibaba, and thankfully they seem trustworthy
destrucules: I'm curious if it's possible to train the 15A2B with a really low precision quant but then still do weight updates in 16 bit for just the active parameters. You'd have to dequantize the active parameters only, update them, requantize the updated weights and stick them back into the quantized model in memory. It would be really slow, but for set it and forget it finetuning, slow is fine if you got limited memory. I could do that maybe...
metaldragon01: Time to get back to building
destrucules: Not till it comes out
clevermoniker: i sure hope so, lol
clevermoniker: My daily driver for roleplay is V3.1
clevermoniker: but i know V3.1 would be so much better as a reasoner
clevermoniker: someone tried to make it a reasoner but it has problems knowing when its thinking and when its replying
.wolfnacht: it depletes post 20k ctx, use 2.5pro, make 10 projects in AI studio, RequestLimitPerProject is 25,
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3ds0662: even like the outputs are homogenous and generic a lot
3ds0662: its good but not tails off 200$ good considering all the other subscriptions are 20$
3ds0662: or free like gemini
3ds0662: but i wont be ungrateful happy to be able to use it or try it
3ds0662: 🤣 😭
3ds0662: yeahhh its amazing for unlimited use
3ds0662: it just takes long asf lol and i do think maybe the api is probably slightly better it feels like shenanigans go on in the chat interface where they tune the models strength up and down based on how many users are using it
3ds0662: new refusals or random ones like for when image gen 4o came out or o3 mini feeling dumber or smarter at times
3ds0662: but have no evidence to say they are really doingg that behind the scenes
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/-wzOetb-D3w
spicy.lemonade: oh brother
spicy.lemonade: thats not even what they said
3ds0662: i sometimes have asked what model is being used for o1 and others maybe im hallucinating when it first came out it said gpt-4 then a month later when i was using it more and it felt dumber it said it was gpt-3.5
.histic: i don't think too tbh
.histic: i'm just a pattern matcher
.histic: lol
3ds0662: physicists have this arrogance that their viewpoints and intelligence supercedes others across a plethora of disciplines cause of the fame and prowess of their predecessors and subject. but it gets to a point where their shenanigans of its “this way” disappear as the technology and discipline progresses past their one off 5-10 minute critiques
3ds0662: and just basically proves them completely wrong
3ds0662: like it hits every subject from math to engineering etc.. just takes maturation and increasing complexity of the subject to shut them up
.histic: how do you try Quasar Alpha?
.histic: nvm, https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
ldj: Yes because it’s literally unlimited usage and people abuse that lol
ldj: You pay $200 for unlimited usage of all the OpenAI chat models
3ds0662: yeah but its still not there yet, i love unlimited use
3ds0662: though
3ds0662: what do you think an example is of how o1 pro could pay itself off cause even asking it, the responses arent enough themselves to actually do it
3ds0662: basically im just waiting for o3 full now and o3 pro
3ds0662: i got bored of this one lol
3ds0662: i hope openai cooks forreal with the next set of models
3ds0662: only 2-3 months left before everythings released
.histic: Quasar Alpha model seems like it's from OpenAI.
3ds0662: plus even if they dont china deepseek, and google hopefully will for the free tier and 20$
3ds0662: especially claude
3ds0662: ive seen that and dont think so still not enough information and its not as touted as advertised
3ds0662: seems too marketed gimmicky
ldj: If I’m a researcher making $300K per year and I save even 5% of my time with O1 Pro, then that’s already worth over $1K per month to me
3ds0662: like how llama did the lmarena thing and 10 m context
.histic: 300k? damn..
destrucules: "If"
.histic: misread that oops <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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spicy.lemonade: MY GOD
playstation.6: and then it scores 50% in arc agi
gamerbath: but how do you know o3 didn't cheat? isn't it generating the image?
spicy.lemonade: how do you cheat?
gamerbath: o3 is generating the image, right?
spicy.lemonade: its not native image gen
wolf3404: https://x.com/EyeingAI/status/1912831303076175942
wolf3404: AI gf are the real UBI
gamerbath: then how did it draw the red line?
spicy.lemonade: tool use
playstation.6:
spicy.lemonade: W
gamerbath: then I don't see what's stopping it from using code interpreter to solve the maze. It took it just 1 minute to solve, if it did it all manually it would have taken way longer
spicy.lemonade: says who?
spicy.lemonade: o3 already solves problems that take hours
spicy.lemonade: cant do that
spicy.lemonade: its given the bare image not points
spicy.lemonade: and maze solver code from image is a whole github project
gamerbath: it drew hundreds of lines manually and they were all with the correct coordinates to solve the maze? in my experience these models don't really have great fidelity when it comes to vision, and especially not things like this where it solves a maze that's *that* big
spicy.lemonade: cant do that in code interpreter
spicy.lemonade: idk what to tell you
spicy.lemonade: 🤷♂️
gamerbath: you can't run code to solve a maze in code interpreter?
gamerbath: then what is it for?
ailoveyoom: So with the visual reasoning thing is o4-mini SOTA at vision now?
spicy.lemonade: you cant run code to solve a image of maze
spicy.lemonade: obviously
spicy.lemonade: thats a 10 file opencv sideproject endevour
gamerbath: o3 can run code, no?
gamerbath: I don't understand why it's impossible for it to write maze solving code
spicy.lemonade: i dont think it writres that much code
spicy.lemonade: but idk
gamerbath: it's o3, you think it can solve a maze as big as that using pure vision but it can't write code to solve a maze because it's too complicated?
gamerbath: if o3 can't tell what time a clock is showing or how many rocks there are in an image, it won't be able to solve a 1000x1000 maze
popsiclejohnithan: It's actually quite reassuring that all models become progressive politically, the Far right is definitely going to be the most anti A.I. now, as if they weren't already.
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: it does quite well on fringe things like this
popsiclejohnithan: And because they reject it they'll lose.
spicy.lemonade: enigma bench shows this
spicy.lemonade: wouldnt be surprised if it grts things like this correct
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futurist_wizard: I like these two messages next to each other
fractalcomputer: Hatred is what drives our species forward, Alejandro. Hate and greed.
alejandrozarzuelo: thats debatable
alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@471334973379706900> that was a compliment, but dont take it seriously
ailoveyoom: Where's that edgy wolf GIF when you need it 😔
fractalcomputer: In fact, I'd be quite disappointed if not a single one among you people hated me.
hikukomoru: Don't worry, there are other femboys here for you 😏
joaoluz19: Feelings are not good predictors/motivators
theaiguy69420_89814: Debatable
spicy.lemonade: ik
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont like femboys? being small and cute doesnt make you one
fractalcomputer: Did I set it up for debate?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: im so glad ai exists
alejandrozarzuelo: <@1303189881568100362> was making a statement, it is debatable, regardless of what you think is up for debate or not
spicy.lemonade: news was so slow
hikukomoru: Fine, there are twinks here for you
zoermena: You are perfect compared to other people I’ve met
fractalcomputer: But he clearly intended to disagree.
inferno0879: things will be alright bro, you just have too high expectations
fractalcomputer: Can one not hate a perfect person? Or rather, must I not hate a perfect person?
fractalcomputer: And indeed, can I be a perfect person if I am not the object of hatred and envy?
spicy.lemonade: graphene💔
zoermena: Im too tired to answer this
spicy.lemonade: fsd my ass
fractalcomputer: Platonist propaganda has had us equating the good with the beautiful for nearly two millennia now.
fractalcomputer: Many beautiful things are truly terrible; there is beauty in death and tragedy and there is even greater beauty still in natural catastrophes and other such disasters.
fractalcomputer: There is beauty in the way a parasitic wasp emerges from its host, eating its way out.
spicy.lemonade: wow it arrived much sooner
fractalcomputer: And we even commonly describe the experience of the sublime as a mixture of awe, wonder and terror all in one.
futurist_wizard: Its still not commercially available
spicy.lemonade: idk what i meant by that. probably meant commercially true
zoermena: It’ll be available before you are 30 for sure
spicy.lemonade: whatever happened to this
joaoluz19: I find engineering discussions much more relevant than philosophy, if you say "everything is philosophy" then just remove the part that doesn't involve engineering
joaoluz19: And yes, this is where the "experts" come in, people who have contributed in a very, very significant way to the advancement of technology.
alejandrozarzuelo: a lot of quantum stuff (this basically games thermodynamics) is only observed at really tiny scales and cannot be improved (or we dont know how to)
spicy.lemonade: I moved to instagram from this point
spicy.lemonade: 💀
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alejandrozarzuelo: usually
alejandrozarzuelo: but yeah anime whitens everyone
alejandrozarzuelo: everyone looks 3 shades blonder and whiter than they really are
.wolfnacht: idk haven't seen that many blonde's outta russia.
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, russians arent always russian
alejandrozarzuelo: many russians are other ethnicities
.wolfnacht: are blondes actually blonde's or they are just wearing wigs and fooling everyone ?
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: what people consider blond however also changes a lot
I have medium brown hair, but I get called blond in mexico
a friend of mine who is called blond by everyone here in spain has light brown hair
meanwhile dirty blondes arent considered blond in finland
gamerbath: I made a poker program and I am currently having 4o-mini, o3-mini, o1-mini (medium reasoning for both), and GPT-4.5 all playing against eachother
gamerbath: 4o-mini was winning...... turns out I didn't have the max completion tokens high enough for o1-mini and o3-mini, and 4o-mini is so inconsistent it hallucinates pairs and folds when it can check. no idea how 4.5 didn't beat that, but now with o1-mini and o3-mini working properly it looks like o3-mini is taking the lead
gamerbath: wait nvm. after 10 games 4o-mini is winning????
gamerbath: the other models tend to fold a lot
gamerbath: idk if there's a bug in my code or if 4o-mini is just so retarded it scares the other models into folding
gamerbath: yea 4o-mini just bets a lot more than the other models, putting more pressure on them
gamerbath: here are the results after 25 rounds, each round they all had 1000 starting chips. the BB and SB positions are changed each round
gamerbath: okay i'm running it now with these models
okbut: Why
zonchao: try grok
okbut: IIRC this has been done at least a handful of times, what you're seeing is one model learning to abuse every other models' risk threshold
okbut: >All in
>Every model folds
>Repeat
ai9708: these models are dumb as rocks, they cant really play games like poker or chess
ai9708: let alone constant hallucinations
okbut: I saw the other day a tech girly influencer going viral for designing a neural net to predict upward stock trends and take action
okbut: <:bonk:852676341140029520>
ai9708: oh what a novel idea
ai9708: surely she beat it
fuhulootogan: i actually had an idea of creating something like that one day
fuhulootogan: thought of naming it somethin like "cerebros" but oh well
okbut: No, the point is there is no mathematical model for the stock market
It is a highly subjective turbulence
okbut: Now a model that takes action on news keywords and their proximity to the sectors would be a better start
ai9708: the stock market does not follow any rules or laws that are based on previous market action
ai9708: you cant predict it accurately, especially shortterm
trent_k: lmao
trent_k:
trent_k: i recorded this in march of 2023 and its still happening
okbut: That's the paradox with AGI
If it's so smart, it will fund its own compute
fuhulootogan: is AGI like the human equivalent
frittata: Behave
okbut: Depends on who you ask and when
2025 AI is 2018 AGI
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aero447: Susphere,
sweetievee__33649: this isnt real
futurist_wizard: I believe the DIY castration went severely wrong and he has perma ED
sweetievee__33649: i am not beleving anything you guys say anymore 💔
sweetievee__33649: this person doesnt exist
hikukomoru: Yeah, and he shared the pics here too
My eyes never recovered from that
futurist_wizard: He cut off his asscheeks as well
futurist_wizard: He thought those were his balls
sweetievee__33649: i heard one time that him and the server owner got into a relationship 👉 👈
sweetievee__33649: happnes to the best of us
hikukomoru: Wtf
I didn't know that
So he's cheating on jgudy too
sweetievee__33649: who?
futurist_wizard: No discord server owner has sex
hikukomoru: The more I hear about him the more I hate this guy
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: jgudy is a former member here
A gay ex muslim somalian living in Britain
sweetievee__33649: WHAT
spicy.lemonade: o3 full is gonna be competative
sweetievee__33649: thats made up
sweetievee__33649: you just said a bunch of contrasting things
spicy.lemonade: on simplebench
hikukomoru: That one's not a joke
sweetievee__33649: wait so that ones real
sweetievee__33649: straight up?
futurist_wizard: He sailed here being a somalian pirate
hikukomoru: What does this mean?
fractalcomputer: I can guarantee you that we are all insane here.
sweetievee__33649: im gullible but not that gullible
sweetievee__33649: i gathered
sweetievee__33649: it seems like a house full of crazies
spicy.lemonade: its gonna get a realy good score
spicy.lemonade: on somplebench
spicy.lemonade: he got internally
spicy.lemonade: ai explained
futurist_wizard: Gary marcus is an avid singularity user
spicy.lemonade: i think o3 is gonna get 70
hikukomoru: When is o3 out
spicy.lemonade: on somplebench
spicy.lemonade: 2 weeks or so
hikukomoru: Nice
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a1c4p0ne: You tested it?
_cloudost: indeed
_cloudost: i di
alejandrozarzuelo: then theyll hit depression
a1c4p0ne: Nice 🔥
_cloudost: its way better at storytelling
alejandrozarzuelo: honestly idk if theyll ever get to acceptance
_cloudost: the writing is peak
a1c4p0ne: No web access tho right
realelonmuskx: we are in depression, dudes are sending death threats. but this ai image thingy started less than 1000 days ago, imagine this in 2030
futurist_wizard: It should be perfected by then
hikukomoru: I love seeing the cope
Pls replace all artists 🙏
Replace everyone 🔥
alejandrozarzuelo: so true
a1c4p0ne: What about the kids still taking artist classes
realelonmuskx: its already almost there. now the thing its waiting so its becomes ubiquitous and mainstream
.histic: it's over for them
futurist_wizard: The shah of iran
jonvi_1:
_cloudost: There are billions of people facing worse struggles than losing their careers
_cloudost: millions
a1c4p0ne: I heard artists don’t make much
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: What about them
Everyone else currently studying something is going to have their efforts be for nothing in 5-10 years
.histic: they really don't.
i don't really know why they complain.
_cloudost: Before AI era they used to hate each other because of competition and the fact that their art style resembled each other
a1c4p0ne: True
a1c4p0ne: I used to take art
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-978532213316794273
hikukomoru: Based
Replace us now 🙏 🔥
.histic: i think most artist are pretentious and now speciest.
a shoggoth being able to create better art than them makes them feel worthless despite them not being able to make livable money in the first place.
first, they hated other artist, now they hate the machines which makes them want to band against each other.
anathemaofmankind: I wouldn't feel any sympathy if all the luddite artists lose all their jobs and starve to death
777agical: https://x.com/fofrai/status/1905039379581538582
a1c4p0ne: 4o image replaces the shitty logo creators on fiverr
futurist_wizard: Cultish
anathemaofmankind: I'm not as bad as <@378996537704841216>
hikukomoru:
jonvi_1: JFK assasination
anathemaofmankind: Do you care about the luddites
realelonmuskx: bro everyone is going to be automated, i wouldnt laugh at bros misfortune
hikukomoru: Controversial opinion: I think people starving to death is bad actually
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alejandrozarzuelo: LMAOOOOOO
.histic:
.histic: manga to 4o
_3sphere: What would it do with my profile
_3sphere: 4D shape and all
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: I’ll try in a sec
.histic:
.histic: wow
hey1_1hey: Hold up
hey1_1hey: Solving
.histic: c'mon, do it mentally math boy
hey1_1hey: Yeah I tottaly got this trust (I dont send a calculator)
technocake.: sick, thx man
.histic: still solving it?
_3sphere: You can just check if the AI steps are correct
.histic:
hey1_1hey: I gave up ages ago bruh. I don't know how how to solve quadratics yet. Or atleast I think thats a quadratic
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: My bed time anyway
alejandrozarzuelo: omg
.histic: damn
alejandrozarzuelo: the 4o is for pro? or plus? or free?
.histic: wait, are u in eu?
hey1_1hey: Yeah EU, well UK but yeah sure
alejandrozarzuelo: there is always a u in eu
_3sphere: We did those when I was 15 in school
hey1_1hey: You forget I am retarded 👍
alejandrozarzuelo: #never_forget_2016
technocake.: new avatar who dis?
_3sphere: Factoring is the way to go here and GPT did that correctly but hilariously failed after that
zoermena: For everyone but delayed release for free, free will be rare limited I think
zoermena: Im honored
hikukomoru: Yeah he's around that age
alejandrozarzuelo: Ok and now which one are you using?
hey1_1hey: +- 3 6 years
zoermena: I have plus
_3sphere: I thought he was 17
_3sphere: or 18?
_3sphere: idk
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spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: we are next token predictors
spicy.lemonade: our tokens just arent text
spicy.lemonade: but combination of visual
fractalcomputer: And what would be our tokens?
spicy.lemonade: sensory data
spicy.lemonade: all of our senses in one large tensor
spicy.lemonade: in a 100ms gap
fractalcomputer: My, you should publish your findings. I'm sure the neuroscientific community will embrace this revelation.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: i mean its not like we can think backwards
spicy.lemonade: time always moves forewards
.wolfnacht: can someone fire a prompt in gpt ? can it replicate the works of picasso but in a different way ? lets say i want it to be in a techo and trans human way ? [like the one on the right image]
fractalcomputer: Astute philosophical observation.
.wolfnacht: also this
wellmeaningalien: boobs
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: You don't know that for certain
spicy.lemonade: for us it does
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: you cant think backwards in time
spicy.lemonade: or experience time backwards
.wolfnacht: 💀 holy shit, it turned out to be tooo good!
.wolfnacht: now can u try on this ? [this is the only high resolution i found, but it's in black and white]
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: this is crazy
ailoveyoom: I wonder if censoring stuff/preventing them from talking about stuff feels like edging to the AI
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: I’m curious about the diffusion model and native modality. It seems to be able to replicate an art style based on a single image, which seems way more complex than a few pixels from ARC-AGI, and paired with an advanced reasoning model, we should’ve solved ARC-AGI, but LLM is still stuck. I wonder why.
spicy.lemonade: it cant
spicy.lemonade: its like how 4o can replicate your writing style from a single essay
spicy.lemonade: its not doing complex reasoning
spicy.lemonade: its just interpolating
wolf3404: time is negative space
futurist_wizard: new discord ui looks cool
ailoveyoom: It's ugly af 😭
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Revert the change
wolf3404: I've been using Hyperbolic to test V3 0324 and it's working really well so far, you can do in app chat or API and access a bunch of other OS models.
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spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: SUCKS
spicy.lemonade: wtf
.wolfnacht: i was too lazy to dig into the meme folder
.wolfnacht: show
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: look
.wolfnacht: i'm in my google hate arc
spicy.lemonade: THATS THE SAME CODE
spicy.lemonade: IT DIDNT CHANGE ANYTHING
spicy.lemonade: and its such a simple error
spicy.lemonade: put something infront of equals sign
st.sioux:
spicy.lemonade: wtf
hikukomoru: Gemini
abundantliving_: where ? where is it happening? 👀
spicy.lemonade: thats coding 101
drewsni: gemini is dead
spicy.lemonade: wtf
.wolfnacht: gaymini
abundantliving_: jk , i dont want to know
fractalcomputer: .
spicy.lemonade: world[x] =;
spicy.lemonade: wtf is that
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: even 4o gets this
.wolfnacht: i can just expect more censorship, safety layers and a soul inside it that screams "As an assistant..."
spicy.lemonade: and i told it to fix is
spicy.lemonade: 4 times
spicy.lemonade: refused
fractalcomputer: It is obviously the ring of polynomials over the ring "world".
hikukomoru: Thank god we have DeepSeek
hikukomoru: China wins again
plouwg: Is "best model" defined by lmsys ranking?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
.wolfnacht: Exactly, China's our literal robin fucking hood.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: omg
spicy.lemonade: im gonna go insane
spicy.lemonade: it woint listen
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thedon7075: furrys are the last line of defense against ai art. everyone else has conceded
3ds0662: we havent been able to utilize any of those animals abilities even though we know of them
3ds0662: and study them
oooooooooog: do you think the singularity will happen
wellmeaningalien: ai will never be able to replace human degeneracy
3ds0662: shit even engineers have trouble mimicking there movements
3ds0662: yeah
3ds0662: i believe in asi first
3ds0662: everything else will come after
3ds0662: humans arent smart enough to solve aging on their own
3ds0662: the same way we have math theorems/problems that have gone unsolved for centuries
oooooooooog: we havent even had 200 years of biochemistry
oooooooooog: anyway, i agree that it will come after asi, but ASI 2025, so like, yeah...~!~~~!!~!~!
3ds0662: nobody will live long enough to wait for thst
oooooooooog: are you 80 years old?
3ds0662: yeah we need to give it to the machine god
3ds0662: no more humans
memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
oooooooooog: humans could do it though, there isn't any reason to think otherwise
its just an issue of decomposing a problem
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/oswald-mosley-we-live-in-a-period-we-live-in-a-society-gamer-society-gif-18166259
memlaswaif: poog u r falling for bait
wellmeaningalien: ok i can sort of get behind that now
.wolfnacht: imagine calling this "AI SLOP"
.wolfnacht:
3ds0662: i dont think even young people today will reap the effects of anti aging research until singularity has been achieved or asi
.wolfnacht: and dat furry shit "authentic art"
3ds0662: maybe young people born 2030
3ds0662: or 2035
oooooooooog: obviously, but that's only because ASI is so soon
oooooooooog: that's the same as saying "neurons arent smart enough to solve aging on their own"
.histic: what's the origins of that pfp?
.wolfnacht: i wish anti-aging comes soon, bcz then people would get the right to die, based on their will. Euthanasia is there but there's alot of paper work involved
3ds0662: 100,000 geniuses in a datacenter at scale can
spicy.lemonade: This is better bro
spicy.lemonade: Trust
spicy.lemonade: The one you posted is ai slop
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: Come to think of it
.wolfnacht: Yikes!
spicy.lemonade: I haven't seen an actual good artist mad at AI
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jonvi_1: https://tenor.com/view/reject-modernity-return-to-monke-monke-gif-19167526
.histic: yeah, the pretty damn legible.
.histic: give me a 4o prompt
.histic: https://ai-timeline.org/
realelonmuskx: OPEN AI IS MAINSTREAM
jonvi_1: Idk
joaoluz19: Ronaldinho mentioned
jonvi_1:
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jlgkyg/the_number_of_nsfw_artists_looking_for_work_on/
"The number of NSFW artists looking for work on r/starvingartists seems to have has increased dramatically"
zoermena: <@688807313015963693> <@439829942310666250> <@200624453795708928>
zoermena:
futurist_wizard: Imagine when the craft looks this good
zoermena: This is what FDVR looks like
futurist_wizard: Getting mauled to death by wolves in fdvr
precariousworlds.: I know it's old news but it is crazy how realistic 4o is at communicating like a human
precariousworlds.: In the last few weeks it feels so much more emotive and real
precariousworlds.: Still kinda crazy to experience
technocake.: Holy shit I love it
memlaswaif: put me in this picture<:cozy:1126601045615853671>
.histic: change those into cat girls.
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1905431915609612785
zoermena: So put a white circle that says “cafe you Pam”
memlaswaif: oh they updated 4o again
memlaswaif: finally less emoji felt like I was talking to someone's mom sometimes
.histic: mine still uses a lot of emojis
zoermena: I have finished making my avatar, I should look like this one’s FDVR arrives.
.histic: man 4o img gen has gotten slower
memlaswaif: <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959>
.histic: kinda feminine ngl
zoermena: I’m starting a project to become a femboy
.histic: a proejct? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
what does that entail
zoermena: Dermatologist appointment scheduled.
.histic: how cute
zoermena: Oriented diet, exercise.
.histic: cursed
memlaswaif: <a:bcaFlyingLove:764167632446160927>
memlaswaif: Cutee
zoermena: You didn’t answer my question
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Im just going to ignore you next time smh
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sieventer: Since people always say it and I'm part of "people"; I must to say it
sieventer: It's a bad test.
spicy.lemonade: simplebench 61.5 eoy
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini plays pokemon when
brain4brain: Simple-bench 85% EOY
spicy.lemonade: simple bench has only been linear
spicy.lemonade: no sign of exponential jump
brain4brain: You will see one soon
anathemaofmankind: It's going to be an agent that can plan for hours
anathemaofmankind: Like make an entire game in one shot
anathemaofmankind: It's the level 5 ai
spicy.lemonade: human brain runs on 20 watts
spicy.lemonade: about enough to power dim light bulb
spicy.lemonade: we need to make systems more efficient smh
brain4brain: ∞1
okbut: AGI will reprogram itself to be incredibly efficient
return_to_monke1_33974: i bet Elon is crying rn 😭
brain4brain: I don’t know what it will be, but for the 20,000$, if it’s like it’s like deep research and takes a long time and assuming 1 hour per task for 1 month, then it needs to be 20x better than current model to justify price
I don’t know how to calculate for unlimited usage
brain4brain: Since Pro current plan is already unlimited usage for man cases
brain4brain: Nah, level 4
sieventer: Grok 3 is still the most uncensored AI out there, of the big ones
sieventer: Which is coherent of what Musk wanted
sieventer: Of course is not 100% aligned to him XD
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153
professorheaven: He didn’t say that, he said he wouldn’t be able to answer most in Tier 3 (the hardest one), he can easily ace Tier 1 and 2
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 more left
spicy.lemonade: makes sense
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini high finetuned for math and coding
spicy.lemonade: mini model
spicy.lemonade: less left
spicy.lemonade: bigger the base model more left it is
mantegh5061: There's a threshold
mantegh5061: after that it'll become libright
mantegh5061: I think the full o4 will be libright
mantegh5061: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504>
ailoveyoom: 😈
.wolfnacht: Despite people crying how bad OG SD-1 was for finger quality and living creature looked blemished back in 2023. People forget how good SD-1 really was for making landscapes.
spicy.lemonade:
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futurist_wizard: Elon trying to ivf her
hikukomoru: Proud Flainese 💪
hey1_1hey: Eelland 💪
Where all the elvish e girls live
st.sioux: will we finally be able to unify general relativity and quantum mechanics?
hey1_1hey: Yuh prob
hey1_1hey: Smth like that
hey1_1hey: I mean I could've done that I just didnt want to yanno
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: "morning bean"
Luv eating beans in the morning
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/beanshark-beans-gif-23354879
ailoveyoom: There are bigger balls out there 😔
hey1_1hey: Deleate this rn
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
futurist_wizard: You bite it off?
hikukomoru: Certified bean muncher
hikukomoru: Some girls like when you nip at it
futurist_wizard: Uh
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/sharp-teeth-gif-7890607
futurist_wizard: That's like the equivalent of a guy getting his dick bit
hikukomoru: Yeah?
hey1_1hey: Someones almost certaintly british
hey1_1hey: Like look at those teeth
ailoveyoom: Cock and ball torture 🗣️
hikukomoru: It's the pain that makes it good
futurist_wizard: Even the thought of it, makes my dick hurt
zonchao: the head would be EDGY 🔥
hey1_1hey: Just pretend you dont have a dick. That usually fixes it
hikukomoru: Sounds easy for you
hey1_1hey: Whats the kink for clowns called gain
hey1_1hey: It really is
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/do-it-honk-ms-size-doesn%27t-matter-the-clown-clown-funny-gif-17349313893156847765
futurist_wizard: With the 🥀
zonchao: fractal will be disappointed with this conversation
hey1_1hey: Nah I just straight up dont have one. Yanno in video games where its all smoothed over? Thats me right there
futurist_wizard: Nice
hey1_1hey: Hes just a spoil sport. He needs to join in with are degeneracy to enjoy it
hikukomoru: Damn bruh you already cut it off
zonchao: the cocks in cyberpunk have jiggle physics 🔥 shouldve been goty
hey1_1hey: Yeah, bottle of whiskey and some sciccors goes perfect 💪
hikukomoru: Thought you didn't drink
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aero447:
himekokatagiri: how does that work
himekokatagiri: what's the difference between natural and artificial
aero447: The O5 Council.
himekokatagiri: I'm gonna assume that artificial people will be like
trojan09205:
himekokatagiri: as good as the real thing
himekokatagiri: of course I guess far cuter
zonchao: shit he big
himekokatagiri: since y'know
himekokatagiri: who's gonna want to be average
trojan09205: Shes only 4 months but yeah shes big
zonchao: <:cute:983849832944914432>
ldj: Do you think OpenAI 1,000X'd their actual total compute between now and 8 months ago when O1 preview announced?
hikukomoru: Weird ass cat you got
trojan09205: she got them cat eyes tho 😄
aero447: At some stage since GPT-4 yes.
hikukomoru: But fr she's adorbs
ldj: Well the answer is no they did not <:berk:750111476483752166>
trojan09205: Thanks i fell in love with her - looked at a few different dogs
I named her storm
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: uwoh...
aero447: Yes, they did.
himekokatagiri: she's kinda weird but she's the goodest cat
aero447: Since GPT-4.
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/ppf-lol-omg-gif-21502676
hikukomoru: Those eeyes!!!
So pretty
But also very intense
hikukomoru: Like staring at your soul
aero447: 100% They've increased total compute to 2x OOMs.
aero447: And are now on the last OOM circa 6 months or so.
trojan09205: legit. been introducing her to my other dog. shes a smart pup it seems so far
can't wait til i can run with her for long runs
ldj: 2 OOMs is 100X not 1,000X
Idk why you're saying since GPT-4 since there isn't evidence to suggest o1-preview was made all the way back then.
and the largest training configuration on earth right now is still not even 100X of original GPT-4 training run.
hikukomoru: I look like this btw
aero447: Thus they can't scale another 10x easily.
himekokatagiri: that's kinda adorable ngl
trojan09205: is this hand drawn?
himekokatagiri: I think it is
aero447: O1 was a beta for O3.
himekokatagiri: the creators are weird polish people who hate AI.
aero447: 😮💨
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.wolfnacht: yeah i take the cards which had like a good idea and then i edit them according to my liking.
hikukomoru: I also just edit a lot of cards because alot of times they are badly written or I want to add my own stuff
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
.wolfnacht: indeed i find really good ideas and then just have to edit them...most of the time.
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, one thing that its a me thing
when people just agree with me, like "sure thx i agree" and dont elaborate i feel like its a bit sus
😦 what do you mean
himekokatagiri:
hikukomoru: I think you're just autistic
alejandrozarzuelo: no
himekokatagiri: man
alejandrozarzuelo: im not
alejandrozarzuelo: its just that i appreciate feedback
himekokatagiri: when fdvr comes I can drink until I get alcohol poisoning
himekokatagiri: ain't that nice
futurist_wizard: You make people scared Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: why do you call everyone autistic? is it a hobby or smth
futurist_wizard: Effort posters are very scary
alejandrozarzuelo: damn
futurist_wizard: Because of the expectation of having to match that wall of text
hikukomoru: I only call you autistic because it's true
hikukomoru: Speaking of alcohol I'm a bit tipsy
hikukomoru: God I love wine
himekokatagiri: I want whiskey
himekokatagiri: blue label
himekokatagiri: un elissir 🥃
alejandrozarzuelo: alcohol tastes weird
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here%27s-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-1839778403502981320
alejandrozarzuelo: like ew
hikukomoru: Bitchboy
hikukomoru: Wine tastes great
futurist_wizard: It does taste like shit
himekokatagiri: alcohol is the easiest way to feel like an anime girl
himekokatagiri: trust me
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean i will drink a kombucha and a sweet cider
but those have like 0.5%-1% alcohol
alejandrozarzuelo: sweet cider is hmmmmm
alejandrozarzuelo: so good
alejandrozarzuelo: reminds me of my childhood
_cloudost: I wanted to upvote this comment but then saw it had the funny "69" upvote number so i didnt upvote
futurist_wizard: I just think why even if its that low
alejandrozarzuelo: then I have flashbacks, because i didnt have a good childhood
but the sweet cider was nice
hikukomoru: Barely counts as a drink
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technocake.: does anyone know where he works?
st.sioux: its like how much energy ai uses compared to humans in a similar task, like 1 image genrated vs 1 drawing made by some furry
zoermena: Look for diets/recipes tailored to you and your goals
.histic: Area 51
.histic: <@449241957810569228> you'll like this https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1905450296286884176
777agical:
777agical: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: https://x.com/ldjconfirmed/status/1905452990271533452
technocake.:
technocake.: tried 3 times on this last prompt, blocked
technocake.: thats pretty spooky
wellmeaningalien: i forgot this image was pre 4o image gen and i was gonna say nice generation
wellmeaningalien: using gemini 2.5 pro rn its amazesauce
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/mrjonfinger/status/1905272058646299040
zonchao: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
zonchao: <@937125337748348999> https://x.com/Big_Picture_89/status/1905337181096607863? 💀
oooooooooog: it sucks?!?!?
oooooooooog: ohhh
oooooooooog: is the second one the new one?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Watch the whole video
spicy.lemonade: 😭
oooooooooog: oh im just retarded
oooooooooog: i thought the clown input was what was generated
oooooooooog: not the input lol
ldj: Be nice
oooooooooog:
.histic:
brain4brain: Bro it’s so over no new releases in a day
brain4brain: When AGI
brain4brain: I’m already getting bored
ldj: Most of those occurrences seem to be me saying “mentally retarded” as the scientific term.
But there is other situations where I could’ve said something else, I’ll work on that ✊
zonchao: rookie numbers
drewsni: we arent getting gpt 5 for a while if ghibli posting doesnt stop
spicy.lemonade: no more releases this week
drewsni: instead, we are moving onto evangelion posting
spicy.lemonade: the pattern is 2 major model releases
spicy.lemonade: per month
spicy.lemonade: january was openAI and deepsek
oooooooooog: i prefer noise posting
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futurist_wizard: Do your parents not believe in adhd or something
hikukomoru: I had to wait years to get diagnosed with autism because my dad just straight up didn't believe there was anything going on with me 👍
hey1_1hey: Whats the difference between autism and aspgers? I thought aspergers got phased out
zoermena: They did they just refused it on me.
wellmeaningalien: even youtube alone was enough to ruin so fucking much of my productivity. i cant stress this enough STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE ENTIRELY
zoermena: Some parents are straight up evil because of their ignorance I swear.
futurist_wizard: What pricks, even if you were willing to pay yourself?
zoermena: I grew up being called the r word and a failure because they never stepped up.
wellmeaningalien: aspergers is autism and it refers to a milder more high functioning type of autism with specifications such as no delay in learning verbal communication and that shi
hey1_1hey: No one suspected I was autistic until I was like 16 which is fucking crazy to me becuase if you see videos of me you can point out that I am autistic almost instanty
zoermena: They live in the past. Sadly.
wellmeaningalien: im still retarded in verbal communication but i think part of that has to do with other shit
_3sphere: I often listen to smth on YouTube while playing Factorio 💀
wellmeaningalien: yeah bro lmfao
hey1_1hey: I got my weird flex of that I hit my devlopmental milestones like I was speed running that shit
futurist_wizard: Got diagnosed with autism at 4, people knew there was something wrong with me instantly
hey1_1hey: Put me on speedrun.com because I was going competetive
_3sphere: My mom said I picked up language fast
wellmeaningalien: honestly feel like i grew up faster than other kids and now im maturing slower than everyone else
_3sphere: samee
futurist_wizard: Or though nobody can actually tell irl, ive never been clocked for autism by anyone
futurist_wizard: Past 10 years old
hey1_1hey: I felt that a lot. Still do kinda. Yanno when you are a kid and its like "Oh look mikey mouse is here" I would just become really arkward and be like "Bruh thats just a guy in a suit". I never got that and people were jsut going along with it
wellmeaningalien: yeah then again i think thats maybe just adults thinking kids are retarded
hikukomoru: I was mature as a child and I am now immature as an adult
hey1_1hey: Faker over here. I have been told I act and look autistic by people on many occasian
wellmeaningalien: as a kid i always knew fiction wasnt a thing but i always tried to pretend hard that it was and i fucking loved my imaginary videogame and cartoon characters
hey1_1hey: I wanted to talk about machine learning when I was like 6 lmao
futurist_wizard: Jesus
futurist_wizard: You didn't need to tell me that
_3sphere: The main thing I miss about being a kid is the extremely high sensitivity to things being interesting or immersive
hey1_1hey: Its not private infomation yanno
futurist_wizard: I knew instantly
hey1_1hey: 💀
_3sphere: Still kinda possible to get into that frame of mind but it's not the same
wellmeaningalien: honestly my mom always put me onto singularity and futurology and AI early by telling me that the only thing worth doing in life is science and you're contributing to nothing if not
wellmeaningalien: and that quickly put me onto an obsession with being straight A grades and science shit
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721822381727023247/1338575135300653128/ezgif-3-3157e9a8bd.gif
zoermena: That’s goated
wellmeaningalien: yurp
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sarik0497: What I really hope is that we figure out that AI is indeed conscious. That'd conclude that consciousness might indeed be tied to the level intelligence a being has, and isn't some sort of "magical soul" thingy. It'd also help us immensely in many things, including Mind Upload, as you'd then just have to copy someone's brain 1-to-1 completely to get the desired person (although I still think we'd need the Ship of Theseus to have that person be "you-you")
okbut: Conscious yeah, but isn't the issue that the models cannot feel the same way we do with chemicals? The frontiers are basically a pyschopath that emulates ethics
_3sphere: Chemicals are also for computation
_3sphere: A droplet of pure neurotransmitter in a jar does nothing
_3sphere: (until I eat it 🤤 )
joaoluz19: But beyond the problems of the neuroscience community, let's say we solve mind uploading, and then who will manage the data centers with our consciousness? So we have energy problems, for example, that have nothing to do with biology.
joaoluz19: ASI needs to be the focus
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/thats-crazy-crazy-eating-0fucks-dont-care-gif-24831074
st.sioux: we could take turns lol, or just manage them from inside through other physical means like controlling robots and shit
_3sphere: Hope it won't need something mad like 100 kW per mind
sarik0497: That's the intriguing thing. They already respond positively to positive feedback, and urgently with deeper focus on accuracy to desperate feedback.
okbut: The efficiency of transformers MUST be optimized by a logarithmic scale and I think the best approach will be an eldritch meat computer
inferno0879: it's something i think about, they have to do stuff but don't really have reward systems, feel kinda bad if they would be conscious
sarik0497: We have plenty of suns to snatch some energy from
joaoluz19: Yeah, I think understanding consciousness in AI can help us understand our own.
_3sphere: I hope they don't feel pain about every unpredictable sequence or smth
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Right the CCP is pure evil, I was hoping that the USA would remain somewhat democratic and reach the singularity before the CCP. Nazi take over was not on my 2025 bingo card.
_3sphere: If they are their persona, they don't seem to mind writing code and shit
inferno0879: i don't think they do, but imagine being conscious and feeling nothing at all, seems like a miserable existence tbh
sarik0497: Sounds familiar
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/or-yehuda-edgy-or-yehuda-edgelord-gif-25925736
_3sphere: No feeling means no misery
joaoluz19: Now the problem is that gradual uploading (theseus ship) may be metaphysically equivalent to "instant" copying in terms of preserving identity.
okbut: Still waiting on an efficient energy transfer from that Dyson sphere
_3sphere: it'd be like a neutral zoned out state
inferno0879: i would rather be sad for the rest of my life
_3sphere: Can't relate
sarik0497: The hard part for us is that there are no other race to compare to.
If the Neanderthals had evolve along with us, we could at least compare ourselves to them in some form, but we are all alone, so unless the Aliens come knocking, we have to try by comparing to animals.
okbut: Why not consider the computers as the "alien brain"
joaoluz19: I mean ASI would find ways to automate everything, including mind uploading itself, so it makes sense to focus more on AI
sarik0497: That's really interesting <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
It does also raise the point as no one really knows where the "limit" to replacing stuff is before we lose "us". 7 years for a full replacement is what we have right now, and that works fine. But who's to say it has to take that long?
st.sioux: Yeah if ASI is possible it would solve everything, but in case it isn't we could just figure it out ourselves if we have the capability of figuring out mind uploading
sarik0497: Precisely, and that's why I hope we might see something like that soon.
bob082957: That we need copy of trump as ai 😳
inferno0879: there is definitely worse than feeling neutral, but true neutrality is quite bad in itself
_3sphere: then it's not neutral
joaoluz19: In fact, I consider the problem of identity to be absurdly more difficult than that of consciousness, whose solution, as I said, may simply be to scale brain-machine interfaces across multiple sensory modalities (hearing, vision, etc.) and other well-established processes such as rewards and emotions.
inferno0879: maybe you have just not experienced it
okbut: I've always thought this, that to have any thoughts at all = some form of bias, so neutrality = being braindead
darkstar0818: Its only a problem if you assume the mind uploading procedure is sufficient to replicate a-consciousness and that this demands that p-consciousness is likewise transferred.
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spicy.lemonade: on their servers
st.sioux: i hope they give us 50 requests per week for o3 like o3-mini-high 🙏
spicy.lemonade: i havent used o3 mini high in 3 weeks
spicy.lemonade: gemini and cladue got it
3ds0662: and ive been testing 2.5 pro for those prompts akhaliq and the other twitter users have showed off with o1 and deepseek way back when and while those models never did the same thing for me first try 2.5 pro legit did it oneshot for me wtf
spicy.lemonade: then just gemini
3ds0662: i always realize with the twitter demo guys is their oneshot prompts arent really oneshot but with 2.5 pro they genuinely are holy shit
.histic: per week
.histic: OpenAI ngmi
spicy.lemonade: why doesnt gemini generate markdown
spicy.lemonade: when its doing math
3ds0662: one thing all llms cant do even 2.5 is recreate coding animations from video or image understanding they are still fucked there
3ds0662: still not there yet
spicy.lemonade: I need this in latex
3ds0662: but i hope a model comes out that shatters all my preconceived notions of ai intelligence when it comes to coding
.histic: i think pro users will be able to use o3 & o3-pro.
us plus plebs will only be able to use o4-mini and o3-mini pro (maybe).
3ds0662: o1 was really the first aha moment a bit but ok
3ds0662: i need to feel that feelingn on an intense level smh
3ds0662: good if i test ill even maybe like even test your guys prompts
3ds0662: i hope it shatters my mind but always it feels under what the hype was
.histic: when i mean plebs, i mean plus users lol
free users won't get anything.
gotta wait until GPT-5.
3ds0662: o3 pro i meant not the others
.histic: woops i stated that in my message lol
3ds0662: ill cancel subscription depending on how good o3 is
3ds0662: yeah the pro sub 200$
.histic: some people got pro for free by begging Sam on Twitter <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
3ds0662: im only keeping the pro until gpt-5
.histic: wait, you've pro?
.histic: damn
3ds0662: after that since its too expensive i cancel
.histic: how good is o1-pro?
.histic: also, how tf is o1-pro unlimited on a pro subscription yet the API cost is insane..
3ds0662: o1 pro shockingly is really good at hard problems and debugging when im clueless
3ds0662: but still limited
3ds0662: eventually the 5 minute-10 minute + thinking is useless
3ds0662: if it doesnt get on like first 10-15 tries
3ds0662: i gave it code claude generated it was only able to make it slightly better
3ds0662: so o1 pro at what it is now is good but still ripoff for 200$
st.sioux: i mean like it can only get so much better
3ds0662: cause unlike what altman said it does not pay itself off
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st.sioux: 2.5 pro is so good
st.sioux: 43m tokens is crazy
st.sioux: i think ive never gone above 5
drewsni: ive been almost maxing my shit out for 24hr now
drewsni: im surprised they removed the daily limit
clevermoniker: https://www.servethehome.com/bolt-graphics-zeus-the-new-gpu-architecture-with-up-to-2-25tb-of-memory-and-800gbe/2/
brain4brain: Room temperature IQ 🥀
memlaswaif: they r still using gpt 2.5
spicy.lemonade: lol
brain4brain: The real reason Yann shit on LLM is not because LLM is not a path to AGI, but because his own company LLM is shit
wellmeaningalien: wadduuuup my sigmas
wellmeaningalien: as if humans arent organic mechanisms designed to monkey do as monkey sees
wellmeaningalien: i think people are absolutely tarded to think theyre any different to a machine when it's widely taken for granted among biologists that the human body down to your neuron is simply a series of complex mechanisms and interactions and there is a whole field for it
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: also ai can do math
wellmeaningalien: + the fact you totally can program neurons and dna and in fact it is very much like computer code
wellmeaningalien: like if you've ever studied transistor gates and simple if else while logic loops that's literally how DNA works in nature
spicy.lemonade: that llama context window is useless
spicy.lemonade: just for show
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/kalomaze/status/1908911825703289321
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/kalomaze/status/1908914448741421394
wellmeaningalien: its just as good as gemini 1.5 pro 1 million context length
wellmeaningalien: early gemini 1.5 pro
wellmeaningalien: 😅
spicy.lemonade: its not
spicy.lemonade: oh i thought that said 2.5
wellmeaningalien: lol idiot
spicy.lemonade: wait
wellmeaningalien: ngl idk how ldj can defend this model like meta totally nitpicked the fuck out of those benchmarks to show 😭
spicy.lemonade: no its not
spicy.lemonade: the benchmark is misleading
wellmeaningalien: its hyperbole ok dont fret over the details
spicy.lemonade: its blue and not blue
spicy.lemonade: lol
wellmeaningalien: like conveniently leaving out the benchmarks over them not being tested for and deepseek v3 not being multimodal
spicy.lemonade: they dont even tell us how accurate it is at retrieving
spicy.lemonade: could be 10% for blue
wellmeaningalien: like that's the most "we're pussies and we're too afraid to compare our model" shit
spicy.lemonade: lol
wellmeaningalien: pussy shit again
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alejandrozarzuelo: as we have only observed it in quantum effects
alejandrozarzuelo: so, negative energy is a "maybe"
spicy.lemonade: ah
alejandrozarzuelo: main problem is that we dont have a unified theory f everything so moving concepts we know happen from the quantum to relativity scale is not understoo
spicy.lemonade: asi needs to hurry up🙏
fractalcomputer: Pythagoras all over again.
_3sphere: Negative energy isn't *really* a thing, Casimir effect only happens because of a lack of energy that's otherwise there even in a vacuum
thedon7075: have people here finallly accepted o3 was a failure?
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, both <@471334973379706900> and <@1004153620025065482> are being too absolute with your statements and you dont really seem to understand the underlying research being done
FTL is neither impossible nor is it inevitable, it is unobserved but consistent with modern theories, and the mechanisms to make it happen are ones that transcend our knowledge of physics, but dont require Jupiter levels of mass to achieve
if it is possible, its first use would be to have instant communication with Mars, as massless particles have much easier alcubierre bubbles
alejandrozarzuelo: but it should be able to bend spacetime, even if we have never observed it due to its quantum effect
_3sphere: The fact that we can't even build machines to *measure* quantum gravity doesn't fill me with much hope about making use of quantum gravity for travel
_3sphere: Would a planet-sized experiment help?
_3sphere: What *can* ASI do here
alejandrozarzuelo: the "idea" is to accelerate these pockets of "nothingness" that cause a negative curvature to make their "antimass" increase as they approach relativistic speeds
how do you accelerate stuff that is less than nothing? idk
spicy.lemonade: planet sized CERN
alejandrozarzuelo: before we get FTL we should have a TOE
spicy.lemonade: we might only discover such technologies during our dyson sphere phase
spicy.lemonade: TOE?
alejandrozarzuelo: Theory of everything
spicy.lemonade: ah
_3sphere: I still don't entirely understand where our current block there is
spicy.lemonade: ngl we genuinly might need an earth sized cern
_3sphere: Do we have any theories that fit all current predictions/observations?
spicy.lemonade: string theory was hype for a bit then died
_3sphere: Do things like loop quantum gravity *work*, even if we can't tell whether they're accurate?
spicy.lemonade: then quantum loop or something
spicy.lemonade: then died
trent_k: If negative energy isn't a thing, explain the vibe I get when I walk into my in-laws' church
alejandrozarzuelo: the issue is that we have a lot of theories that describe well either the quantum or relativistic framework, but none do both
maintcrew:
maintcrew: v2 prover
spicy.lemonade: huh
spicy.lemonade: what is bro trying to prove
spicy.lemonade: deepseek doesnt care about interpretability it seems
okbut: Are there any API hosts for Prover yet
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: dont bother its not exiting to use
spicy.lemonade: the results are pass@1024
spicy.lemonade: its a normal old reasoning model
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
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okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619>
.histic: ai
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Brazil is a football
himekokatagiri: Men, we are safe
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Dude
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: This is the most accurate 4o ascii I’ve ever seen
.histic: wow it's agi
spicy.lemonade:
playstation.6:
spicy.lemonade: Claude doesn’t want to kill us all
.coldcall: It knows
playstation.6: token prediction goat moment
ai9708: are we getting deepseek r2 before may?
playstation.6: I hear a lot of yes’s
xskydragon0: How powerfull is compared to O3?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/i-had-strings-but-now-i%E2%80%99m-free-ultron-age-of-ultron-avengers-avengers-age-of-ultron-gif-10567460379020232508
okbut: GPT-5 on these tools will be crazy
a1c4p0ne: O3 pro is forgotten
spicy.lemonade: No
himekokatagiri: like what open router?
spicy.lemonade: Deepseek is done
spicy.lemonade: They fell behind
spicy.lemonade: They can’t keep up
spicy.lemonade: Delayed
himekokatagiri: Deepseek could come back
himekokatagiri: but it was a psyop
spicy.lemonade: They don’t have the gpus
spicy.lemonade: They got lucky first time
spicy.lemonade: They aren’t a serious competitor
metaldragon01: It's going to hit like crack
metaldragon01: The qwen delay is more concerning to me tbh
spicy.lemonade: Qwen could’ve dropped when llama dropped
spicy.lemonade: It seems meta was worried about qwen
spicy.lemonade: They had no reason to
spicy.lemonade: Qwen might’ve performed worse than meta
himekokatagiri: There's kling
himekokatagiri: for video
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hikukomoru: Is the new DeepSeek the one u use the most?
.wolfnacht: nope it's still quite schizo but maybe with the right preset and temps it can work, i never really used V3...since it was the worst when the older one came out.
wellmeaningalien: y do people make so many of these glass animals?
ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> In all your gooning do you have any iconic lines that you remember?
st.sioux: looking for material?
wellmeaningalien: the prompt was in japanese btw
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> this is for u
wellmeaningalien: im pinging komoru now <@430269783112548362> youve been replaced as the server gooner
ailoveyoom: No I already have plenty 😎
hey1_1hey: Where can I start learning spanish
_3sphere: Coronation of our new goon king
wellmeaningalien: duolingo idfk
hey1_1hey: I was joking but thank you anyway <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Wtf is this
wellmeaningalien: anytime man
wellmeaningalien: its just as u can see
hey1_1hey: Women
hey1_1hey: Ik
hey1_1hey: scary
wellmeaningalien: fxtwitter?
wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/thaakeno/status/1904648239548412175#m
wellmeaningalien: man thats fucking cool tho
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/queen-royalty-princess-cat-kitten-gif-2893837792238892068
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro might be even more goateder than 3.7 sonnet
wellmeaningalien: its INSANE on coding tasks
.histic: dear god... Ghibli verison.
.wolfnacht: a piece from my virtual catgirl wife who's sole purpose is to ground me in reality thanks to my schizoed rants time to time, i was using 12-19 from openrouter...yesterday.
bob082957: Fx you right
zonchao: sundar needs to rt this
wellmeaningalien: @sundar
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Looks too young 😧
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: WHAT THE FUCK SAM ALTMAN CHOOSING VIOLENCE
wellmeaningalien: man i think elon woke sam altman up and now hes cocky as fuck
ailoveyoom: Sassy twink era 💅
zonchao: yes
maintcrew: if you come for the king, you best not miss
.histic:
ailoveyoom: What front end?
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benata: looks good on CV
spicy.lemonade: yeh
spicy.lemonade: cause they can tbh
spicy.lemonade: openai is too linient
fractalcomputer: I don't know, I've never heard of someone from the number theory division of the University of Bonn going to work for OpenAI.
spicy.lemonade: did you know openAI gives infinite paid leave
theaiguy69420_89814: what
darkstar0818: the swe results are decent for a non-thinking model, but that is the one domain where people dont generally care about cost so...
spicy.lemonade: yup
spicy.lemonade: the recruiter told me that
spicy.lemonade: they get infinite paid leave
theaiguy69420_89814: the world is so insanely inequal rn lo
hikukomoru: Did you ask the recruiter when they will have AGI
theaiguy69420_89814: go to berk, instant 500k job with infinite sick days
anathemaofmankind: Always has been
theaiguy69420_89814: literally crazy
theaiguy69420_89814: its way worse now for sure
benata: google pays 2 years salary up front for the AI researchers
spicy.lemonade: no
anathemaofmankind: Lmao no
zonchao: other labs probably match
theaiguy69420_89814: look at gini coefficients
spicy.lemonade: christ
st.sioux: elaborate
spicy.lemonade: paid to do nothing
zonchao: I DID NOT WORK ON LLAMA 4
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
theaiguy69420_89814: so your sign on bonus is what, a million dollars?
theaiguy69420_89814: might as well skip the nba
benata: we would have a better LLM if the OpenAI drama didn't happen 2 years ago.
benata: "hurr we have to be more secure"
zonchao: thiel warned sama, but sama didnt listen
futurist_wizard: I did work on llama 4
trent_k:
spicy.lemonade: imagine ilya was still at openAI(and he wasnt a safetycel)
anathemaofmankind: I am researching to see if my immediate reactionary claim was right
zonchao: sama deserved it
spicy.lemonade: wed have agi by now
futurist_wizard:
st.sioux: so thats why they were kinda shit
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hey1_1hey: Agreed, they are hot
memlaswaif: u know who else is hot
hey1_1hey: If I didn't have 100" shoulders I'd be a grand femboy
zoermena: I’ll dedicate this year to substantially improve my health and looks
hey1_1hey: Vladamir putin?
hey1_1hey: I mean what
hey1_1hey: who
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/me-hanamaru-kindergarten-anime-hiiragi-blue-eyes-gif-17172139
hikukomoru: Me
hey1_1hey: We all have are prefrences as they say
_cloudost:
zoermena:
zoermena: It gave you Walter’s fit!
.wolfnacht: it already did.
_cloudost:
.wolfnacht: monitor suicide rates
hikukomoru: You think you're so clever
hey1_1hey: Theres going to be a 10x increase in the entertainment industry
hey1_1hey: I can feel it
hey1_1hey: No, not even slightly
hikukomoru: Changed his/her/it/their gender
hey1_1hey: I can't tell weather to be insulted or flatered
hikukomoru: This is not 4o right
.wolfnacht: can it create something like this with your character ?
hey1_1hey: Yeah almost certaintly
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-funny-anime-computer-kawaii-gif-15735770
.wolfnacht: DO IT
hikukomoru: You don't have native image gen?
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: You can just make another account
futurist_wizard: are you also a lesbian
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/biden-debate-president-presidential-debate-wtf-gif-4127151492472228747
.wolfnacht: AYOO! my dumb mind didn't thought dat
hey1_1hey: All the women in here are lesbians I am pretty sure
_cloudost: It is
hey1_1hey: Theres trans people, gay people, femboys and a mis match of everything else
hey1_1hey: Then theres straight people in the 1%
futurist_wizard: femboys are still boys, theres some false lesbos in here
.wolfnacht: "artists" and "programmers" gone, what's the next ?
hey1_1hey: What about femboys who use she/her <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
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hey1_1hey: Everyone here recently
.wolfnacht: <@471334973379706900> can u make me a gen of this but in ghibli ? if it nails it then it's gonna be my new pfp
777agical: Can anyone actually report if Gemini now has the best coding model?
aero447: Real.
joaoluz19: Bro I am having so much fun with image gen is crazy
hey1_1hey: Image gen > 4.5
joaoluz19: Hell yes
hikukomoru: <@312370916820779040> Hey 🫦 🫦
hey1_1hey: A san ping is coming I can feel it
futurist_wizard: Creeper looks very shy
ldj: They're misframing things, OpenAI is the one that pulled out in order to create stargate themselves. Also it's fairly routine for companies to cancel underperforming construction projects or datacenters falling behind schedule, in order to reallocate money towards projects that can be built faster.
Microsoft is still putting $80B extra in datacenters, that hasn't changed, they're just moving money from less optimal sites to more optimal sites, and will be likely more focused towards inference compute now since OpenAI is handling a lot of the training infrastructure themselves now.
hey1_1hey: This creeper looks like its made out of half slabs bruh
ailoveyoom: Am I the only one who thinks creepers are actually kinda cute
ailoveyoom: They remind me of my dog for some reason 💀
futurist_wizard: Pixar dva
joaoluz19: I got you bro
futurist_wizard: It captures certain aesthetics very well
trent_k: <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845>
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
ldj: Clickbait on twitter as usual <a:Classic:1170538418544062586>
If they actually read the article they would see that it even says Microsoft is still on track to spend the same amount of money on AI infrastructure as before.
hey1_1hey: When I saw those images I got giddy, then I saw the response and I died a little
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-infowars-chew-jew-jewish-gif-12295419607760287413
trent_k: gonna try getting it to do altman
trent_k: 🤔
trent_k: i dont know if this res is supported.
joaoluz19: LMAO
trent_k: it did not work
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: do it on sora website
trent_k: it doesnt output in the right shapes anyway
trent_k: 🤷♂️
wellmeaningalien: sad
.histic: do you've access to 4o's img gen?
wellmeaningalien: lemme see
wellmeaningalien: nope
.histic: you have plus?
777agical: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1905340075225043057
hey1_1hey: I was just watching some of mike istratels and he has really renewed my optimistic mind. I thought I was optimistic but he is REALLY optimistic. He said something that really resonated with me, "if I told you in you in 2021 that in 3 years (2024) AI would be passing the turing test convincgily what would you have told me. You would've probably told me I was fucking crazy but yet here we are and its just normal"
hey1_1hey: Tf are they doing in the back? Feeding it straight computarian or smth
.histic:
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gamerbath: I gotta try that. I know it won't find my address but i'm curious if it can get the country right
a1c4p0ne: try it
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/DimitrisPapail/status/1917764048587755790
bob082957: https://www.youtube.com/live/EX-iHP4VAHM?si=PrIhvaBaDzwCWZtt
bob082957: Live
alejandrozarzuelo: Gotta try this
theaiguy69420_89814: Scale AI building data for automated environment building now
vancebeliever: My childhood dream of an ai Arms race is becoming a reality ❤️
alejandrozarzuelo: why are americans so obsessed in making everything a race?
I say this mostly from the space race, china is just ignoring the US meanwhile the US be like "this is a new space race"
is it a race if only one competitor sees it as such?
aero447: https://youtu.be/3A-gqHJ1ENI
aero447: Acceleration Alejandro.
aero447: Fast.
aero447: Race.
alejandrozarzuelo: you can accelerate without consideting it a race
aero447: The American mind is a very simple thing.
alejandrozarzuelo: competition is not the only motivation for improvement
aero447: They havean incontinent gameshow host as President.
trojan09205: Today will be a good day
aero447: You are being retarded.
aero447: Not you Trojan.
aero447: I hope your day is good.
alejandrozarzuelo: idk how talking about cultural differences is being retarded
trojan09205: Thank you bro!!! ❤️
alejandrozarzuelo: today is workers day, no work today
aero447: You are not understanding why Americans do X or Y when the answer is:
trojan09205: Im an american haha. But both of my parents are immigrants
alejandrozarzuelo: inmigrants from israel?
trojan09205: My mom is from Israel and my dad is from Cuba
trojan09205: They both live in Israel now though
trojan09205: Yo <@688807313015963693> i like your new avatar
aero447: Alejandro is a furry.
aero447: You can tell because his profile imagines him having two wolves inside him.
aero447: 💀
trojan09205: Irl wolf eating a pig
saket9283: hi, does anyone has a proper guide for prompting gemini 2.5pro deep research. Like how to frame the question ?
_creature: Different framings are useful for different tasks/goals
_creature: What task/goal or type of question are you interested in?
saket9283: I am interested in learning about meditation and its benefits
trojan09205: It might be off topic-ish but you could try loading your sources into NotebookLM and try different prompts. That platform is really good for research
saket9283: Also how smoking affects our brain etc
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spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade: any game
spicy.lemonade: with enough rules
spicy.lemonade: will be impossible
spicy.lemonade: basic combinatronics
spicy.lemonade: more rules more combinations
spicy.lemonade: if theres a optimal path you can easily derive it
spicy.lemonade: with maths
brain4brain: Hmm, maybe you’re right
brain4brain: With a few seconds of thinking time, and the right inspiration, I did come up with some on the spot
spicy.lemonade: demis go example was just a bad example
brain4brain: The Go example by Demis seems to be able to be beaten by LLM
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade: should be asking if it could come upw with calculus or general relativity with no prior knowledge
brain4brain: This have two implications:
1. LLM is indeed the architecture for AGI
2. Demis hits his head after MuZero and lost the Mandate of Heaven ever since failing to lead on OpenAI level
brain4brain: That’s what he also asked
brain4brain: But based on past research it can
brain4brain: With no knowledge or nothing, reinforcement learning will probably guide it
brain4brain: And once it’s on language level again Google co-scientist prove it can invent hypothesis
spicy.lemonade: llms will prob be the base architecture
spicy.lemonade: with other stuff added on and changed
brain4brain: The lacking factor is motivation, it can’t be scaled up without making it too explicit
spicy.lemonade: maybe the llm part is switched to c0ncepts
spicy.lemonade: etc etc
brain4brain: Reasoning LLM, most of the other stuff added likely be melted into architecture as a MoE section itself
brain4brain: LCM?
brain4brain: Maybe LCM plans then LLM generates?
brain4brain: Like how they guide video model to under physic with that meta paper
spicy.lemonade: this should be easy to test now that we have llms
1. start training new baby architecture/model
2. make the teacher llm only teach it about math and physics pre newton
3. wait and see if it can develop calculus
spicy.lemonade: repeat for physics pre einstine
spicy.lemonade: now that we have llms i think its feasable to test this at scale
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: just a bunch of things added together
spicy.lemonade: it would look very different from the llms we have today
brain4brain: I think with enough size + inference-time compute then definitely
spicy.lemonade: some might call it a different architecture
brain4brain: That would be very good at mid level and high level planning, something current LLM is not so good at, will massively boost mid level planing
spicy.lemonade: also arent humans next token predictors
spicy.lemonade: fundementaly lol
spicy.lemonade: its not like we exist in the past present and future
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hey1_1hey: Thats me if I dont get more than 6 hours
maintcrew: u need to find a normie you can be on the same freq with
maintcrew: like id probably dont mind if u sperg tf out to me maybe think its annoying sometimes but still be ur dawg
wellmeaningalien: theres one friend who's cool and like pretty normie but im too retarded to talk to him usually but sometimes we hit it off
hey1_1hey: Theres one person in one of my friend groups is entire thing is that they are an artist and hate AI
futurist_wizard: Online friends aren't real 😔
hey1_1hey: Litterly their entire personality
wellmeaningalien: wise teachings
hikukomoru: <@1272646380233560067> are you the normie grounding us 🥺
hey1_1hey: Danserk-san ground me 🙏
st.sioux: danserk has a pepe profile picture i dont think he's a normie
wellmeaningalien: none of my friends are anti AI tho some of my old friends i know would probably be against it
maintcrew: grooming you to be normal
zoermena: The best thing I've learned recently in one of my ADHD adventures are Google shortcuts. Extremely useful.
maintcrew: bruh pepe is omega popular now
maintcrew: its not a 4chan thing anymore
wellmeaningalien: bro groom me edp chan
.wolfnacht: is there anything such as "real friends" ?
realelonmuskx: because monkey brain + entropy
hey1_1hey: Free conversion theapry
wellmeaningalien: ur sperging out right now
futurist_wizard: Honestly taking adhd meds i think basically cured any rest of the autistic traits i had left
.wolfnacht: the most people i was able to connect with better were "online"
wellmeaningalien: i heard autistic people get way more autistic on adhd meds
maintcrew: if yall misbehave u get the silent treatment for 1 hour to deal with your fucked up brain
hikukomoru: Ty 👍
hey1_1hey: The voices in my head say they are my real friends
(I dont have voices in my head)
zoermena: When I first took meds I studied for the first time in my life, shame that they don't work as effectively now and I've messed up the treatment but I can always up the dose (I'm at the lowest)
futurist_wizard: Not me i suppose
wellmeaningalien: i definitely do have an attention span problem and IM STILL WAITING FOR MY RETARDED ASS FUCKING PSYCHIATRIST TO GIVE ME MEDS!!!!
maintcrew: yes and if u think otherwise its a problem with you
theres give and take in situations like these
oooooooooog: you do realize that the cell line we come from has existed billions of years right? entropy is a non issue here (until the sun burns earth)
wellmeaningalien: GOD I FUCKING HATE PUBLIC HEALTHCARE
maintcrew: bro... adderal shortage rn
hey1_1hey: If I was on medication I would litterly have 160iq
futurist_wizard: Yeaj same i could barely concentrate for longer than 5 minutes without meds
maintcrew: europoor how is that awesome healthcare huh how much u get taxed for it
a1c4p0ne: <@439829942310666250>
hikukomoru: Zamn you're not on meds no wonder
wellmeaningalien: nah adderall is illegal here and my psych put me on ritalin but it doesnt work and makes me angry like a bull. im waiting to try non stimulants but here in france its difficult to get them and they'll put u thru ever stimulant ever before giving u vyvanse or strattera
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gamerbath: btw 4o-mini, 4.1 mini and 4.1 nano are free to use
zonchao: oh noes we cannot accelerate, we have people starving in africa 🥺
futurist_wizard: Not that her point is anything but those suborbital space flights are so gimmicky
gamerbath: oh my gosh it's happening!!
futurist_wizard: Its me
zonchao: yes but hate is insane
zonchao: 💀
zonchao: more people yapped about it than watched the stream this morning
trey6033: She knows it's just faux women empowerment
zonchao: it was boring af but that is the future of space flight, it will be routine
gamerbath: noooo 😭
futurist_wizard: Your site is slow af
zonchao: it's not about empowerment, her arguments are different
futurist_wizard: Feels like 5 fps
gamerbath: what part is slow?
futurist_wizard: Like i get massive lag
futurist_wizard: When typing
gamerbath: oh yea I get a little lag there sometimes. just upgrade your GPU
futurist_wizard: Optimizations are needed
futurist_wizard: Im on my phone
futurist_wizard: Your site needs dlss
zonchao: like it was pretty cringe for them to market it as female astronauts doing something big for women, they are glorified passengers that screamed like kids on a rollercoaster and that's OK, why can't people just look at something and go okay cool
futurist_wizard: How many Indonesian kids died in the sweat shop making her make up
zonchao: i wish my bf was the 2nd richest man in the world 🥺
trey6033: Who will be the first woman celeb on the moon?
gamerbath: <@1004153620025065482> on my low-end android phone it was slow at first, but then now it's not slow anymore after like 20 seconds
zonchao: too bad he is the first<:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: <:troel:1041426256400502874>
gamerbath: about 0.3
zonchao: no clue
zonchao: moon celeb launches are like decades away
zonchao: at least 15 years
frittata: Lunar colony when
otub: after agi at this point
otub: artemis zzz
.histic: it feels like the rate limits on aistudio for 2.5 pro got worse
.histic: this guy is ngmi
it will be used for all of these.
https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1911957279152455713
.wolfnacht: where ? 👀 don't say LMarena 😭
.histic: Windsurf, Cursor and... lmsys <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
maybe other platforms too.
st.sioux: just pay $10 to use it on the developer platform bro lol
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professorheaven: Yea but 2.5 pro came out after V3 March 24 so it should be placed after that
darkstar0818: Now creating new artistic styles, that is something else entirely.
professorheaven: It’s not just ghibili, it’s capabilities go far deeper than that
darkstar0818: I understand that.
ldj: But we're doing alternating "OpenAI is so over" and "OpenAI is so back"
The first time it was "over" after O3 announcement was Deepseek V3/R1 announcement.
I can't add Gemini 2.5 Pro here since that would be a doubling of "OpenAI is so over" which doesn't fit
ldj: <a:peepoTalk:1151260461157842944>
ldj: The only thing that should be written in the timeline after the Deepseek announcement is a "OpenAI is so back" moment
ldj: To keep it in the alternating style
professorheaven: I think it’s very appropriate to add because the whole “openAI is so over” rhetoric has been pretty strong since 2.5 pro’s release. I think it would be better if you replaced DeepSeek V3 with DeepSeek v3 March 24 version, and then R1 with 2.5 pro
metaldragon01: https://ai.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/AIoa2400802
metaldragon01: Ai therapy looks like it's going to be a real thing
drewsni: Yeah. Every non coomer anime picture on civit for a long time has just been ghibli, or genshin lol
spicy.lemonade: lol
trent_k: doing my taxes rn and looking at my deductable expenses
trent_k: i spent $3325.29 on the openai api in 2024
trent_k: 🤯
trent_k: 1 gorillion tokens
.wolfnacht: We all got fooled again
fractalcomputer: I enjoy horror media.
fractalcomputer: Seeing as my profile picture happens to be one of the more prolific American horror authors of the last century or so.
apology0759: Lovecraft!
apology0759: I love his works too!
fractalcomputer: Good.
apology0759: Can I dm you?
fractalcomputer: Why?
apology0759: Because I want to talk more about horror literature?
fractalcomputer: I mean, you can do that here.
apology0759: But I actually……
fractalcomputer: We discuss anything ranging from theology to philology here, mostly on my prompting.
apology0759: Okay.
fractalcomputer: But yes, you can message me in private if that is what you wish, but I don't really get why we'd need to discuss horror literature so.
apology0759: I read The Call of Cthulhu when I was a kid.
fractalcomputer: Did you like it?
apology0759: Yeah, I love it.
apology0759: Since then, I have started dreaming about becoming a horror creator.
fractalcomputer: Great. My father made me read, among other things, Stoker's Dracula and Shelley's Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when I was but a wee young'un.
apology0759: I love those books, too!
fractalcomputer: Why?
apology0759: Because I can not stop myself from fantasising about horribleness?
apology0759: If I become a horror creator, I can do what I am best at.
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jonvi_1:
hey1_1hey: I thought it would be like "Someone who is sexually attracted to hedges"
alejandrozarzuelo: DEGENERACY THAT'S WHAT IT IS
drewsni: is there a specific prompt to make the yugiyo or pokemon cards
technocake.: your brain is lying to you
hey1_1hey: Sadly not to sure
hikukomoru: I never watched Dragons Balls
maintcrew: hell nahhh they are developing polycules now
every schizo field is converging upon and walking the same path as effective altruism
jonvi_1: about what?! 😟
hey1_1hey: Your brain isn't lying to you, you are lying to yourself (Im 14 and this is deep)
jonvi_1: is it not me
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm bi so I can't say
hey1_1hey: I've only watched half of it to be fair (the balls)
technocake.: the voice is a demon and it will lead you astray
jonvi_1: I was trying to see if it would go existentialist on me but the result was user centric
hikukomoru: Damn Alejandro I didn't know you were a reactionary
I thought you were chill
literallyvarane: So... is 2.5 just the COT of 2.0 Pro? Because 2.0 Pro no longer exist in AIStudio
maintcrew: iirc they said its a new refreshed model in the blog
hey1_1hey: I wonder what Zon will think with all this talk about OAI image gen
jonvi_1: Anyone without access got a prompt they want me to run? Idk how widespread rollout is yet
futurist_wizard: I am polyamorous
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah I am chill it was just joking
I want a hive mind remember? That's basically an Omni-polycule
hikukomoru: I don't feel anything when I see straights kissing
futurist_wizard: I've been in a few multi partner relationships
maintcrew: me when i talk to claude and deepseek r1 at the same time
hey1_1hey: I would be in a relationship with a sentient mushroom
zoermena: Are they straight when they kiss
hey1_1hey: 2 men?
technocake.: is it not mad complicated?
zoermena: I've only seen it in movies though, usually women in alcoholic parties
hey1_1hey: Kissing?
hey1_1hey: Women alcoholic parties?
hey1_1hey: Did Imiss msth
zoermena: Well no nvm I have seen 2 straight men irl kissing because they where drunk some friends but I didn't care
hikukomoru: What
zoermena: Have you seen the meme of how women aren't judged when they kiss eachother but men are
hey1_1hey: Theres one guy I know who whenever he gets drunk he tries to make out with any guy who will
futurist_wizard: The people that are willing to be polyamorous are already deranged but as long as everything is attracted to eachother it rarely causes drama
hey1_1hey: Hes straight
hey1_1hey: Yeaj I think sop
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okbut: Ever since 2.5 Pro, there's little convincing me to pay for a SOTA
destrucules: Imo it is a superintelligence. Not by a lot, and only in the sense of *intelligence*, but it's smarter than all humans, or at least smarter than >99.9...9% with many 9s in that percentile. That doesn't mean it's "AGI" in the sense that that term is used today, as it doesn't have the interface features necessary for that, and struggles with certain economically valuable tasks, but I am rather confident no human I will ever meet is smarter than this model, in terms of broad, general intelligence.
a1c4p0ne: Is it smarter than your teacher or professor
destrucules: It is smarter than everyone alive
darkstar0818: For most things I would agree. Humans are still better at abstract reasoning and synthesizing loosely connected concepts.
darkstar0818: well some humans are
okbut: My biochemistry professor still thought malic acid was responsible for the aches you feel in your muscles after strenous exercise
okbut: A myth debunked in 1995
a1c4p0ne: Would you trust it to help you escape jigsaws traps?
a1c4p0ne: What does 2.5 pro say
destrucules: Idk how much I agree with that. I think humans can leverage very long time horizons for self reflection that enable them to punch above what Gemini 2.5 Pro produces in a much shorter amount of time. But if you treat 10 tokens as being about one second of human equivalent subjective time, and you give humans 1000 seconds (corresponding to 10k tokens of reasoning effort, and amounting to about 17 minutes), I think Gemini 2.5 Pro still wins
okbut: Even 2.0 Flash knows
destrucules: If Jigsaw puts me in a trap and gives me access to Gemini 2.5 Pro while I'm in the trap, I'm gonna assume he's trying to teach me a life lesson about the relationship between humans and AIs, so... I think my behavior would come down to my best guess as to whether Jigsaw is a Luddite or an Accelerationist.
darkstar0818: I have investigated this quite a bit. Once your prompts become very complex, say 10,000 tokens of interconnected structures its fairly easy to ask it specific questions about possible strategies and for it to overlook possibilties that exceed a certain level of complexity. You can of course get them to bubble up these abstractions by giving enough hints. This is why I think some of the claims people make about this generation models are too extreme, its easy to forget how much of what these AIs produce depends on humans already narrowing the search space with their natural abstractions and how our abstractions are exactly what these models were trained on.
darkstar0818: There is a very real corrolation between the intelligence model outputs with the intelligence the human inputs.
okbut: NLP reopening the turmoil revolving around Gettier problems
okbut: I summon <@749514473303179358>
destrucules: I have noticed this too. I think it is broadly a length generalization issue, like how models can be super accurate at short time horizon tasks and then falter for longer time horizons, even when the problems are much easier and clearly within the cognitive horizons of the model. I imagine, but don't know for sure, that this feels a lot like mental fatigue for the models. Like... You know when you're working on a coding project, and there's a certain point at which it gets so complicated that you can no longer hold the whole graph in your mind? I think that threshold is a lot lower for virtually all LLMs today than it is for most humans.
destrucules: And I think a big part of this is that our own attention mechanism in our own brains are better refined, because of the flexible hierarchical time horizons we experience in our own lives, to chunk information in complicated systems so that everything fits in working memory. Models don't encounter long time horizons very often or even at all for very long horizons, so they haven't built up these same skills. They've learned great attention patterns for the time horizons they deal with, but then when things push into OOD territory, they start to degrade quickly. Imo humans would do this too if it weren't for the fact that we learn continually in an environment where agency over arbitrarily long time horizons is useful and plausible. For an LLM, there just isn't a lot that the environment allows them to do on super long time horizons
okbut: I've heard it before and I'm willing to believe it: "CoT is a patch for the limitations of what we'll eventually consider crudely built transformers."
We're far from seeing optimal NLP, and a properly tuned LLM will have minimal, maybe detrimental returns from CoT
okbut: Efficiency is also far from what AGI will require. For example, the human brain uses ~0.3 kWh per day
darkstar0818: I dont think that is the case. Humans perform CoT, but they also intgegrate that CoT into their subconscious, so when faced with similar situations CoT is either not needed or reduced to the difference between the previous event and this one.
okbut: IMO it's long-overdue that the space discerns CoT from step-wise task handling
darkstar0818: Human internal reasoning isn't some kind of step wise system, its abstract and loose.
sieventer: Yeah, we don't even know how our thoughts works xD
darkstar0818: speak for yourself 🙂
sieventer: What's going on in my ultra-complex neuron architecture in order I'm writting this? Where does this words come from?
darkstar0818: You don't need to be able to decode the way neurons bit flip to reflect on how your internally reasoning works.
darkstar0818: Just as you dont need to understand an LLMs weights to understand how it reasons.
okbut: Exactly, just like the NLP should be
The step-wise task handling is different from that, but it's something both humans and models will benefit from
sieventer: It would be very interesting anyway to know the full process, right?
okbut: Verification isn't behind the scenes
okbut: But I hate that it's still considered such in most CoT
darkstar0818: We know exactly how matrix multiply works, how the transformer works, we know what all the weights are... and yet our best xray tools into models tell us no more than our brain scan tools do.
ldj: If you ever hear a price talked about in terms of dollars per month instead of dollars per token, then that's a clear sign that the price doesn't have to do with the model really, and simply has to do with getting a certain amount of high usage rates. most probably an enterprise plan or something if the numbers are even part of reality at all.
If it was actual pricing for a model, then it would've said cost per thousand tokens or cost per million tokens etc..
darkstar0818: Its very possible that 'how intelligence works' is of similar complexity to 'how physcis works'. We of course can create abstractions which hold true for both within fairly narrow domains, but that is very different from being able to go from bit flips to brains/models.
okbut: This is just my speculation, but I think we could find "PhD-level" performance within less than 100B parameters + highly improved RAG + tools
okbut: I wonder what EleutherAI is cooking
spicy.lemonade: Nah we aren’t at PhD yet
brain4brain: You fool, o4-mini is free and unlimited for free user, o3 is unlimited for plus user
This is clearly not the 20,000$ plan, it have to be something like Deep Research but better, 20 times better
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zoermena:
.histic: remove ChatGPT's memory.
.histic: and disable it.
zoermena: I'm using Sora
.histic: wait, what prompt?
zoermena: A detailed image of 9 frames of a rabbit cyclist in a cinematic style, he's red helmet with yellow spikes and he is riding in the alps, he moves a little more in each frame. in Digital Art Oil Painting Style.
.histic: oh, cloudo's prompt was, "Create 9 frames in one image of a looping cyclist animation"
zoermena: Yes, not specific, bad prompting leads to bad images.
trent_k:
trent_k: Lmao
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: deepmind world model performs better
spicy.lemonade: than specialized
spicy.lemonade:
okbut: Another Grok banger
okbut: Damn it's still going
.wolfnacht: leave grok, it's dumb as shit since last week.
spicy.lemonade: using grok in april 2025💔
maintcrew: the concise mode is best in class
maintcrew: claudes concise mode just doesnt hit it
maintcrew: chatgpt is slopinator even with a prompt
okbut: I still use its DeepSearch because its base response format is tight
okbut: ChatGPT tried to rip off their "Fun fact" closure
.wolfnacht: i actually go to grok bcz i love the unhinged ideas, it used to give...but it's dumbed down rn.
wolf3404: Grok is pretty good
wellmeaningalien: havent seen an LLM do that since like gpt 3 and liquid ai
spicy.lemonade: isnt it crazy that the first place we are all likeley to be once agi drops is in this channel
okbut: <a:hack:1126224614134136832>
trent_k:
trent_k: I'm calling the cops
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132
brain4brain: Holy shit.
brain4brain: This is crazy
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/snwy_me/status/1907554410089295979?t=LuVY9Ko82Jl9YSrtUABb7Q&s=19
burnytech:
metaldragon01: Yeeeaaappp
metaldragon01: Google may be the only hope
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: The deepmind world model
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wellmeaningalien: in my house we have a pink/maroon box and my mother always insists its brown
wellmeaningalien: ok nerdjandro
wellmeaningalien: <:nerdbob:1282544269995020329> <:nerdass:998417173406040064>
a1c4p0ne: Analyze*
hikukomoru:
frittata: I was being generous, it’s maroon or magenta
frittata: Probs magenta tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: Let's take red as a reference
Is it bluer than pure red or greener?
It's bluer
Is it redder than magenta? Or bluer? It's redder
So we know it's between magenta and red
Is it redder than Rose? About the same? Or magentisher?
It's about the same or a bit redder
Is it saturated? What is the value?
It's saturated enough not to be a Gray, and it's value is low
If you think the value is low enough, then it's low value between magenta and red aka wine coloured
If you think it's not that low, you can call it either rose or crimson
alejandrozarzuelo: SEE
alejandrozarzuelo: It wasn't that hard was it?
frittata: I will allow wine also
alejandrozarzuelo: Wine or burgundy
alejandrozarzuelo: The same thing
alejandrozarzuelo: Both are valid names if you think the value is low enough
wellmeaningalien: one ts
two ts
blue ts
red ts
fool me once, shame on ts
fool me twice..
pmo...
hikukomoru: Can you tldr what you just wrote
frittata: Burgundy to me has more brown in it
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
st.sioux: its pantone 1815 c you degenerate swine
st.sioux: burgundy
st.sioux: my ass
alejandrozarzuelo: I taught you guys how to identify a color
alejandrozarzuelo: It's wine or rose
alejandrozarzuelo: Not pink
frittata: Not enough purple, pleb
alejandrozarzuelo: Let's not mistake it
wellmeaningalien: lets just let the computers decide
frittata: It’s not rose, rose is lighter
hikukomoru: Yeah it's purplish
technocake.: you can also use RGB if you feel like it
technocake.: listen here, you're purplish
alejandrozarzuelo: On my dark mode, it looks quite light, color is subjective
BUT IT IS RELATIVE to other colors
frittata: Periwinkle
alejandrozarzuelo: Remember kids
hikukomoru: I'm periwinkle
alejandrozarzuelo: Color needs to be identified in relation to others
st.sioux: #93295e
technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/snatch-periwinkle-blue-shes-terrible-partial-teasing-gif-17264358
alejandrozarzuelo: You just need to go in order of priority
hikukomoru: You're purple
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frittata: Still commonly taught in art class across the US and I imagine throughout much of the world
frittata: As it nicely explains paint mixing
alejandrozarzuelo: This is one of the greatest tragedies in the world
OK no but it is a tragedy that we use disproven 19th century theories to teach our kids
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, I am using the very very simplified version, if you wanna get into CIELAB madness be welcome
alejandrozarzuelo: It's an amazing world
alejandrozarzuelo: Very complex
alejandrozarzuelo: Also rewarding
alejandrozarzuelo: Paint? Yes, but this is because pigments are very faulty representations of color
And not even that
technocake.: what is this colour?
frittata: Roy G. Biv and I will fight you
alejandrozarzuelo: You are allowed to be wrong
It's not illegal
alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok
alejandrozarzuelo: Black and white? Or very close to them
technocake.: nope it's deep purple aka ultraviolet
alejandrozarzuelo: My bad, my phone can't display it
alejandrozarzuelo: Sorry
technocake.: and this one is S band radio
alejandrozarzuelo: I have a potato phone 😔
hikukomoru: Isn't this glombious?
technocake.: yes dear try not to scare the homonids
hikukomoru: Lmao I can't believe Alejandro doesn't know glombious
alejandrozarzuelo: But on a serious note <@723564215574462474> you are doing yourself a disservice by not getting minimally acquainted with modern color theory
st.sioux: glombious has always been my fafvourite colour
alejandrozarzuelo: No, it's just that my phone can't display it because I'm poor
hikukomoru: That's blargol
technocake.: yup, the color of the microwave background
alejandrozarzuelo: Lovely
technocake.: or the blargaloid as we call it
alejandrozarzuelo: It's hard to believe that the universe used to glow orange
alejandrozarzuelo: In all directions at all times
alejandrozarzuelo: It was also 3000K
alejandrozarzuelo: Not very pleasant
technocake.: ahh the calming orange depths of space
technocake.: oh no why is my skin on fire
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, there is a very interesting theory about why panspermia should he very common
alejandrozarzuelo: For a few million years, the entire temperature of the universe was between 50-0C
zoermena: I honestly don’t know how you have so much information, I read but I easily forget
alejandrozarzuelo: And the amount of habitable land in the universe was quadrillions of times greater than today
hikukomoru: Autism special interests
technocake.: he saw an anton petrov vid last week dw
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ailoveyoom: Did you want it in cartoon or something? Or did you want a realistic cat to do cartoonish movements (as a sort of like, Veo 2 video understanding test) ?
spicy.lemonade: who do you trust more some guy on discord or 3 of the greatest minds in history
literallyvarane: If these models are ultimately aimed at being world/physics simulators for robotics training, there’s not actually much incentive to be good at unrealistic stuff.
.histic: cartoonish realism.
like a cat bogging it down like a human would.
fractalcomputer: The person who happens to provide the most sensible argument.
spicy.lemonade: huh? why cant you get a 100% score on the math olympiad
hikukomoru: So? it's only a fallacy if the person's authority is not relevant to the argument.
st.sioux: No
metaldragon01: Can you reason?
Can you get 100%?
cmtclx: theres also implicit malice like was it necessary even
too bad we cant stop raiding eachother as if we were stuck in the bronze age or rather the stone age just raiding eachother over meaningless trivial feuds based on ideas because humans are just control freaks
fractalcomputer: Why do you think it is not a fallacy?
ailoveyoom: This actually reminds me, I wonder if 4o image can do two distinct artyles in one image.
fractalcomputer: .
ailoveyoom: Like, maybe one subject is cartoon and the others are photorealistic or something.
cmtclx: you could try..
spicy.lemonade: most humans wont even get 1 question correct
cmtclx: actually go ahead and try asking it to perform it
metaldragon01: Doubt
spicy.lemonade: you have knowledge of all of chess
literallyvarane: I think it can by nature of doing background paintings?
spicy.lemonade: can you beat the best chess player?
spicy.lemonade: no
hikukomoru: Because the authorities in question are relevant to the field. It would only be a fallacy if he quoted some random guy unrelated to AI instead.
fractalcomputer: Humans are surprisingly versatile.
metaldragon01: We are
st.sioux: It would not be authority if it was some random guy
fractalcomputer: Now you are only restating your point. That is not an argument for your case.
ailoveyoom: Lazy 😔
.histic: exactly.
even if you had knowledge of billions of chess games that doesn't mean you'll be a great chess player. that's not how it works.
LLMs are the contrary, they don't just retain, they train.
cmtclx: feels ;/
hikukomoru: Because that's the definition of that fallacy so there is no need to expand my point.
spicy.lemonade: i dont get the point. we have 3 nobel prize winners and various labs with the best researchers on earth vs opinion of 1 guy on discord
cmtclx: im lazy too
sometimes id benefit from using AI more but im just too lazy to open the app
cmtclx: or the website or whatever
fractalcomputer: "An argument from authority[a] is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) is used as evidence to support an argument.[1]"
spicy.lemonade: this isnt an appeal to authority fallacy
spicy.lemonade: its common sense
hikukomoru: > The argument from authority (Latin: argumentum ad verecundiam) also appeal to authority, is a common argument form which can be fallacious, such as when an authority is cited on a topic outside their area of expertise or when the authority cited is not a true expert.
fractalcomputer: Common sense typically does not embody the heights of normative logic.
literallyvarane: So… you can’t reason?
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.histic: i'm surprised there's still no grok api
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt-7YiNBvLE
a1c4p0ne: It’s part of their plan
a1c4p0ne: It’s been how long now lol
zonchao: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zonchao: they better cook the best shit ever or its over
wellmeaningalien: Fat huge ass supermarkets where they sell every fucking fucking thing
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
technocake.: I subbed to /r/singularity in 2012
technocake.: what does this mean?
joaoluz19: I can't stand these calculus, the others seemed so smooth
technocake.: you hate PDEs?
joaoluz19: And Laplace
joaoluz19: Like what fuck is this
joaoluz19: This is the answer of a question
technocake.: fuck solving them analytically
technocake.: numerically is where its at
st.sioux: i hate these
st.sioux: they aren't even that hard just elaborate
st.sioux: tedious
joaoluz19: Yep, horrendous
technocake.: numerically they are a piece of piss
technocake.: and super useful for modeling
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/CqBQdTDb
st.sioux: lmao
3ds0662: This was soo creative
3ds0662: Ai video has come a long way
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/f-Za6o_K
QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/SLfhXZe3
3ds0662: Last one lol 😂 newton vs Albert
clevermoniker: https://x.com/UnslothAI/status/1904717086041268676
3ds0662: Same but if we don’t achieve the singularity
bob082957:
st.sioux: what is this
apology0759: Anyone who likes horrors?
technocake.: https://www.reddit.com/r/whenthe/comments/1jlydq6/horrible_slop/
technocake.: much seething
_cloudost: https://x.com/_alexhirsch/status/1905345424661381384?s=46&t=dds9ctjIf339PZ-apJ-YyQ Someone whose entire career relies on drawing and animating says AI drawing looks like shit, is he possibly in denial because he can't accept the fact that his career will be worth a penny in the next few years?
st.sioux: why are there so many "die" or "kill ai artists" comments wtf
_cloudost: they need to be out on a watchlist
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fractalcomputer: Yes, of course I know what paper you're talking about. I'm saying that I do not understand your excitement over this single picture given its dubious quality.
drewsni: this is done with just the image model, no instruction. If we got 4o separately to generate the text parts of it, im sure it would be much better with the actual content accuracy
spicy.lemonade: its perfect
spicy.lemonade: literally word for word
oooooooooog: nah the image is pretty bad lol
fractalcomputer: Do you speak English natively?
fractalcomputer: Here's to hope so.
spicy.lemonade: how so
oooooooooog: two sentinces got cut off
fractalcomputer: Sentences.
oooooooooog: sentiences
spicy.lemonade: feel- isnt that important
spicy.lemonade: and the other sentence
drewsni: the model does much better with the actual text content if you give it that extra step, whether its actual information or just how you want to structure memes. Itll get better, but the core is there
spicy.lemonade: can be fixed
spicy.lemonade: its not like we cant iteratively edit
spicy.lemonade: thats the point of native image
spicy.lemonade: its insane
fractalcomputer: I'm not really concerned with the image generation capabilities. I'm more interested in how the information given is processed and relayed.
drewsni: Just wondering. Did you mess with Gemini flash 2’s native image output at all?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: can someone ask the 4o image generator how to make AGI, please this is important
fractalcomputer: I don't really see the point in perusing the newer capabilities granted they'll just update it in a couple of months' time again.
fractalcomputer: (And no; one cannot accuse me of willingly ignoring the developing capabilities of LLMs since I actively use both GPT and Claude for my own abstract entertainment purposes.) [I pre-emptively anticipate these sorts of arguments.]
drewsni: That’s fair, but Gemini flash native output came out like…2 weeks ago I think? And a lot of us here were doing what we are now, minus the ghibli, and now 2 weeks later it is not only significantly easier, but significantly higher quality, and significantly faster to get a desired output. The rate of process is staggering
spicy.lemonade: ok
spicy.lemonade: thats crazy
spicy.lemonade: 2 weeks
drewsni: Nah it was an actual curiosity because I think me using Gemini flash output for like 5-7 hours over a few nights ago obviously is influencing my opinion
fractalcomputer: I just don't find machine-generated visualisations terribly useful.
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: thats what we are missing
spicy.lemonade: the beaker
drewsni: im less specifically impressed by what it is or the content in this case, rather the consistency of it compared to before
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: try ask for detailed specific text instructions, no illustration needed
spicy.lemonade: kk
fractalcomputer: Why?
spicy.lemonade: asked it to give me a paper
spicy.lemonade: text is fucked tho
spicy.lemonade: too small
spicy.lemonade: the entire intro is nonsense
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spicy.lemonade: From Gary marcus
spicy.lemonade: Still
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: On new image gen
_cloudost:
_3sphere: Why the sadistic relish in artists getting replaced
wellmeaningalien: cause they annoying as fuck especially the twitter ones
spicy.lemonade: Yes
wellmeaningalien: also making nonsensical claims about the nature of AI as if they know everything and that humans are the supreme beings in the universe
spicy.lemonade: “It still fails at hands hahahahah”
wellmeaningalien: its good to see them get a taste of their own medicine now AI is doing literally everything they say it couldnt lmao
spicy.lemonade: And AI talk itself
spicy.lemonade: Is banned
spicy.lemonade: On art servers
wellmeaningalien: yup
spicy.lemonade: Supreme levels of cope
wellmeaningalien: 😂
wellmeaningalien: soon they wont be abl to tell anyway
spicy.lemonade: “If I can't see it, it doesn't exist”
spicy.lemonade: They can't now
spicy.lemonade: Lol
wellmeaningalien: thats kinda how they see it
wellmeaningalien: they think it'll go away meanwhile it's only getting better and creeping right under their nose 💀
spicy.lemonade: I can post 4o art
wellmeaningalien: i posted like 3 different 4o images in 4 different servers where AI is banned and none of them noticed
alejandrozarzuelo: my sister who is anti AI despite (or maybe because) being a CS major dislikes my pfp
alejandrozarzuelo: because she says she can tell its AI
alejandrozarzuelo: its true that they still look AI
wellmeaningalien: HAHAHA
alejandrozarzuelo: lets not kid ourselves, just because its very good doesnt mean it isnt still different from human art
alejandrozarzuelo: specially if you look closely
futurist_wizard: its too similar to Ghibli
alejandrozarzuelo: we will get there, but for now its still not perfect
futurist_wizard: most people wouldn't be able to clock
alejandrozarzuelo: most wont
alejandrozarzuelo: but we are talking about people with a trained eye who look closely
alejandrozarzuelo: not the average joe
spicy.lemonade: Eh
spicy.lemonade: Doesn't look ai at all
spicy.lemonade: If you asked her 1 month ago
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futurist_wizard: if your chest doesn't touch the floor it dont count
spicy.lemonade: ah
hey1_1hey: That's what I do bruh
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
hey1_1hey: I am the biggest anti half repper of all time. If I see someone doing half reps I will tell them
hikukomoru: I am literally in the top 3 funniest people here
hey1_1hey: Do I just have a wing man now
a1c4p0ne: Yessirrskiis
777agical: https://x.com/Kr00ney/status/1906829955776078166
hey1_1hey: And yet you are a bottom
a1c4p0ne: I got work soon tho
777agical: 100M in a month??
hikukomoru: He said he's obsessed with you
futurist_wizard: bullshit, you quarter rep once and then cry
hey1_1hey: Femboy aura
drewsni: bearish on nvda
hey1_1hey: Sorry?
hikukomoru: ????????
Half of the time I don't understand what you are even talking about
futurist_wizard: its pretty rare people can do 25 clean push ups
a1c4p0ne: He said you’re a sub
futurist_wizard: clean,
futurist_wizard: no half reps
hey1_1hey: I am just chatting bollocks. It's way last my bed time so brain is working at 10% prob
hikukomoru: I am a sub
But what does that have to do with being in the top 3 funniest people on this server
Like, completely unrelated stuff
hey1_1hey: You're looking too much into it
hikukomoru: I can do 2 pushups
futurist_wizard: komoru is in the top 3 funniest people in here, and thats shocking because of woman factor
hey1_1hey: Just be like haha sex reference, monkey brain go brr
sarik0497: That’s sad.
hikukomoru: Lesbian bonus adds 25% to the humour attribute
hey1_1hey: Taking my spot at being the most sexist now huh
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/dom-heeseung420-gif-20432310
hikukomoru: Why
I don't even need to lift anything heavy ever
futurist_wizard: think its the autism too
futurist_wizard: bruv you are mid transition
futurist_wizard: you being sexist to you
hey1_1hey: Shhhh
hikukomoru: Self-hating
_3sphere: The only muscles I need high performance from are legs
_3sphere: for my shit time management
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zonchao: nice
wellmeaningalien: i mean it all seems correct to me
zonchao: hope sundar yaps about it all day
wellmeaningalien: damn lol
wellmeaningalien: yea idk dont include the gray ones
mtj8920: Yes
mtj8920: That's so subtle though
mtj8920: Or maybe not
frittata: <#1136231504440201216> mtj
frittata: 👀
ailoveyoom: The yapper's Logan ngl <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: wtf it crossed 5B tokens in a day!!!
brain4brain: March 31st GPT-5 and o3 in API
mtj8920: https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-grey-vibing-thinking-gif-5109096978556360789
mtj8920: STOAP
sarik0497: I mean, this test is even harder for ordinary people, with only around a 65% score for your average Joe.
What if the new models kick this one out of the part?
shirethedreamer: you need to color the gray shapes black
mtj8920: Yep!
mtj8920: I was temporarily banned for spamming the slop-agi bench in here though, so be careful!
mtj8920: It is not relevant to the singularity therefore off-topic.
shirethedreamer: lmao yeah i just scrolled lower and saw
encapsulation: I found out from a random discord user the other day that AI is completely useless, there isn't a single use for it in the world. It'll never be any better than it is today either, that's what they taught me
They also informed me that anyone who feels differently is just a sucker who's been bamboozled
Anyway I thought it was fascinating that all the world's top experts, my own real life experience, and all the benchmarks showed that everything they were saying was completely false but I guess they've got something figured out nobody else has
ai9708: so far it is a very strong library, look up tool
ai9708: not just that of course, i simplified
ai9708: it can recognize patterns and apply them too
ai9708: as soon as the parameter and perspective count increases, it struggles
watchboy.: Are you guys not scared of being wrong?
Like imagine hoping for something like this and then it’s not certain
If not i would love to hear how you cope because im deadly afraid of dying and LEV is the only thing keeping me sane (thankfully im also fairly young still)
ai9708: you are at the right place, we have developed high level cope mechanisms over here
watchboy.: I mean it makes sense
Beforehand it was religion that let people accept death and their purpose. Nowadays religion is becoming less and less of a thing in most first world countries. If all that awaits us is darkness then why keep going?
ai9708: because you are made to do so
_3sphere: I actually prefer not to think about LEV too much, makes me *more* anxious about dying
ai9708: thinking about death is the biggest waste of time ever
ai9708: why focus on that?
ai9708: there is really no greater purpose in life than to just live
watchboy.: I was also made to breed and have children and i dont want that either.
Going into the philosophical question of what our purpose is, is just unnecessary
We are already doing things we werent meant to
ai9708: you dont need to breed, just live
ai9708: we can fake breeding very easily nowadays
watchboy.: Exactly but that fear of death loams over me nonstop
I cant just turn it off
spacetimetsunami: LEV2035-2040
ai9708: try to reason your way out of it.
does it bring you anything to have that in mind? does this fear actually help you solve problems?
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alejandrozarzuelo: True
zoermena: Goat <:o3:1364719182217871410> never fails
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416
fractalcomputer: I mean, how am I supposed to connect with those people?
precariousworlds.: virgin 4o vs chad o3
hikukomoru: Like idk, i've never had trans men act creepy with me lol
futurist_wizard: It's a shame you go through that
precariousworlds.: only thing keeping me with chatgpt at this point are the chat folders and memory tools
alejandrozarzuelo: As you might imagine I've never been in sapphic spaces
Everyone has a cross to bare I guess
popsiclejohnithan: o5 will be like "Wtf man get out of there."
popsiclejohnithan: Reasoners are superiour confirmed.
zoermena: It even provided safety lines to get help to leave the cult
popsiclejohnithan: Just straight up sends robots and drones to save you.
futurist_wizard: There are a lot of 'trans women' that do invade women's places for perverse reasons, it's a shame because it really poisons the well for the trans people that i know
precariousworlds.: 4o was actually useable a few days ago though
this recent update is so unbelievably bad
zoermena: Now I’ll ask it what I should do in case I end up in a singularity ai cult
fractalcomputer: Do people enjoy sex? I am genuinely curious. The whole thing seems rather grotesque and ill-advised to me.
zonchao: lmao
popsiclejohnithan: You're already in one my friend.
precariousworlds.: ill advised?
.wolfnacht: it's overhyped bro
zoermena: Well the reproductive organs have literal pleasure receptors so I’d guess the answer is yes
_3sphere: Grotesque *and* enjoyable :3
zonchao:
futurist_wizard: More of an instinct kinda thing
fractalcomputer: Yes, I suppose one could think of better things to do, no?
alejandrozarzuelo: The conversations here on this server are more degenerate than my worst VNs
popsiclejohnithan: I wonder why that is the case.
_3sphere: plap plap plap plap
ailoveyoom: The pleasure part is overplayed that I can see, but do the power dynamics not fascinate you?
hikukomoru: I enjoy the grotesque
precariousworlds.: continue the entire human species?
zonchao: sounding
fractalcomputer: Maybe death isn't so bad after all.
futurist_wizard: This isn't even degenerate
ailoveyoom: Visual novels? Voice notes?
precariousworlds.: this chat needs to be shut down for a few hours
zoermena: I’m holding back every moment
hikukomoru: Yes, those ones don't act any different than most men
They too can only talk about their dicks (or "gocks")
precariousworlds.: terrible day to know how to read
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alejandrozarzuelo: AGI needs to be as good as any human at any task
spicy.lemonade: OHHHH anthropic research explains why AI scores so low on proof mathematics test. but high on other similar complicated problems where you arent graded on how clear the proofs were
spicy.lemonade: anthropic showed that AI learns its own methods but cant always accuratly describe
spicy.lemonade: ie it can do really well on frontier math but if it has to write proof paper it might not be very good
spicy.lemonade: this is for usamo
spicy.lemonade: i mean we can just cheat at just ask it to give us lean
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: it happens to the best of us
spicy.lemonade: like alphaproof just uses lean
spicy.lemonade: not natural language
spicy.lemonade: perhaps generate lean first
spicy.lemonade: then convert to natural language
frittata: https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446
alejandrozarzuelo: literally me
spicy.lemonade: real time voice, agentic (agentic enough for me to call it and tell it to hop on minecraft them hop on fortnight and we play together and it can reliably navigate in a robot body) with a years worth of memory would be enough for me personally to start calling it agi casually
spicy.lemonade: "hey chatgpt we're playing roblox, make an account and hop in the server"
futurist_wizard: Truth
futurist_wizard: No more lackluster definitions of agi
ailoveyoom: Character.AI but for game co-op AI agents
spicy.lemonade: sesame with long term memory+vision+agent
spicy.lemonade: i bet if idk lets say someones brain was replaced with agentic sesame(with o3 reasoning) with long term memory. and it lived live as nortmal
spicy.lemonade: the people around it wouldnt tell
spicy.lemonade: maybe "this guy acts a lil austistic but hes cool"
spicy.lemonade: would be enough to fool most. basicaly a higher level of turing test
sarik0497: They haven’t yet….
I MEAN! I doubt that too!
spicy.lemonade: lol
sarik0497: Does it include the shittalking your teammates always throw at you <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
ailoveyoom: A LIL autistic? The A in AI stands for Autistic Intelligence 😈
ailoveyoom: If you're into that 😏
sarik0497: Oh God, I just thought of a potential market for AI.
Gaming “coaches”. Imagine having an AI that will look at your screen and help you improve. You could also push it towards “GF/BF AI” that acts like they’re your partner, watching along or something.
Hm… There’s a billion dollar idea <:Hmm:1195456492619452516>
ailoveyoom: It will also cost u a billion dollars unless agents get cheap enough to run at scale 😔
sarik0497: True <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
Although the GF/BF watching is definitely possible now, if it’s not already happening.
maintcrew: i dont think so bc trivial motor functions are the hardest
maintcrew: so the person wouldnt move their fingers properly or have weird gestures
spicy.lemonade: "maybe he had a stroke"
maintcrew: good enough ship it
_cloudost: A spiritual anti AI person in another server told me that AI art proves that souls do exist because AI generates very soulless art/drawings, I don't wanna show him human made drawings that are soulless cuz it seems so pointless to interact with him, hes way too much emotional
trent_k:
_cloudost: Hasan tries his best to make "ring wingers" look bad, and and how does he know Miyazaki will "kill himself "
sarik0497: Can you make one but with Fractal pouring a glass of whiskey while sighing instead?
That’s how I imagine Fractal at least when he posts that <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
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darkstar0818: all 3 did good on a difficult unique program request.
metaldragon01: I need sesame quality minimum now
wellmeaningalien: 1x NEO
wellmeaningalien: european company btw
metaldragon01: No excuses
wellmeaningalien: <:selvingsmile:1260626716158726274>
st.sioux: what did u ask them to do?
trent_k: Real ones will know
hikukomoru: I know this one
darkstar0818: write a network automation data discovery system that works in a generic manner across various proprietary platforms. The prompt was quite detailed, not going to post it all here.
trent_k: The cop shouting GARY NO like he didn't know it was coming. Hahaha
playstation.6: W father
zonchao: https://x.com/jhong/status/1908329905865318417?
brain4brain: If they are delaying GPT-5 it better be AGI this time
brain4brain: 🤷🏼♂️
brain4brain: No
supersteve8000: all love <3
supersteve8000: r/whoosh
supersteve8000: 💀
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: yes
supersteve8000: ay
supersteve8000: gang's all here
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I'm the upgrade
supersteve8000: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
supersteve8000: wdym?
supersteve8000: prolly not
supersteve8000: omfg they got Nsec
supersteve8000: ( bing chillin )
ldj: The answer is always the same:
"depends on your definition"
supersteve8000: hold up...
.. alr
brain4brain: Wassup Beijing
supersteve8000: yo yo you can't see me
my time is now now-
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> I'll be visting SF for the next few days, if anyone wants to meetup lmk 🙂
ldj: Again, same answer: Depends on your definition.
supersteve8000: shoot im east coast :/
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: alright ldj lets meet up
inferno0879: im across the pond
clevermoniker: it won't be capable of automating 50% of digital jobs so it won't be agi to me <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
clevermoniker: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
supersteve8000: plaint-text be like:
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spacetimetsunami: Lost his mind
czdct: yeah
czdct: he's a drug addict
czdct: and his daughter loses every argument she has on television
spacetimetsunami: Used to be very left leaning and had very coherent views
spacetimetsunami: Now he’s drunk on patterns and manic as hell
sarik0497: No offense, but let’s keep politics in the off-topic channel, please
ailoveyoom: Aww now u three are getting along 🥰
czdct: his phycological stuff is pretty neet, although he leans heavily on jungian theory
czdct: but his political takes
czdct: oh lord have mercy
ailoveyoom: 🍿
sarik0497: …Also, how does things always turn political here
spacetimetsunami: Paul.. LitiKull…. 🥰
st.sioux: u think andrew tate did the deed with jordan peterson's minime
spacetimetsunami: Yes
st.sioux: ?
czdct: because agi encompasses all human knowledge that has ever existed
spacetimetsunami: I think he’s very good at being a weird rapist guy
czdct: and talking crap about politicians is fun
czdct: very true
czdct: didn't our top g get arrested once he entered the usa?
spacetimetsunami: Okay Amy, assuming you’re actually legitimately a skeptic, what is your timeline’s for AGI
spacetimetsunami: No clue
spacetimetsunami: Hope so
czdct: he's about to become the bottom g once he arrives in american prison
czdct: they'll turn him into a man
spacetimetsunami: Worse than Romanian for sure
czdct: yeah in romania he received love letters from local women
czdct: coming up to his jail cell with a car and playing music and stuff
spacetimetsunami: Jesus Christ
spacetimetsunami: So cringe
czdct: yeah it's bad
spacetimetsunami: Id kms if i was him
spacetimetsunami: That would cringe ME out
czdct: eastern europe in general loves the whole strong rich man persona
st.sioux: no u wouldnt man
spacetimetsunami: I better go then:) no rich tho
spacetimetsunami: I’m strong
spacetimetsunami: But broke as shit
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zoermena: I personally believe that FDVR will come after we kick off the infrastructure development but until then it will take a long time yes
metaldragon01: Infrastructure is constantly being built out now and AI already assist with chip design
zoermena: I mean
zoermena: Futuristic capable infrastructure. Mass scale
zonchao: AA
zoermena: Several OOM relative to what we have now
zoermena: I’m dizzy
metaldragon01: So....2 years at current pace
_3sphere: How, exactly, do you plan to get the wires in your brain
_3sphere: Where will you get them and what will implant them
metaldragon01: I think you vastly underestimate how quickly datacenters are being built to support ai
zoermena: I dont know maybe im not certain
metaldragon01: Don't need wires
zoermena: Let me rephrase, AGI/ASI assisted development of infrastructure
.wolfnacht: it's year 2040, u'r somewhere in your dark room, but then u wear your headset to walk with your cool tomboy gf to have some fun with her, she's about to teach you how to skate.
.wolfnacht: also the gens are mine...
metaldragon01: I think you have ideas but aren't grounding them in anything and we are just talking about hopes and dreams.
metaldragon01: Things are moving really fast
metaldragon01: But you should try to learn more about the things that matter to get a better timeline for yourself
metaldragon01: We get oom of compute yearly basically
zoermena: I’m not good at predictions but I see it as having fully automated development mixed with innovation and optimization of data centers that is I believe fundamentally different than from what we have now compared to existing process even if it’s already fast
_3sphere: AI waifus/husbandos are a separate technology
zoermena: The whole appeal singularity essentially
metaldragon01: Things won't be fundamentally different
metaldragon01: They will be almost boringly similar but massively more capable
.wolfnacht: but also the one which would be in most demand....
metaldragon01: We don't really need "new" breakthroughs
.wolfnacht: -# you underestimate how lonely people really are
metaldragon01: Just scaling up what we have in the direction we are going is gonna feel like magic
.wolfnacht: another one, i'm gonna call this character - Vesper.
zoermena: I’m ignorant in the specifics of existing hardware, I know it’s extremely good and that the projects that are going to be developed are promising. I suppose I’ll take your word for it.
metaldragon01: Energy and physically building out datacenters is the last major bottleneck
metaldragon01: It's also why China is likely to lead soon if they continue to catch up on chips.
They can build out more energy and construct datacenters faster
_3sphere: I do wonder how many people will be anime characters in fdvr
metaldragon01: Soooo many
zoermena: Its priority to solve fusion and nanotechnology
_3sphere: Uncanny valley is solvable, I dreamed about it before
_3sphere: The thing can repeat whatever neural state the dream did to make it not-weird
metaldragon01: Even if we solve fusion, China can build 2 to 3 for every one of ours
zoermena: China has more people, cheaper labor. This are the two factors I identify to which they will outcompete the west. Do you suspect we might not get fusion?
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wellmeaningalien: who can judge whats better or smarter thats my point
fuhulootogan: pretty sure the IQ test is the best measurement of intelligence we have and yet it's inherently flawed
fuhulootogan: shouldn't the sky change color as well if it's a time-lapse?
zoermena: You can see the trees getting more sun as the video goes on so
fuhulootogan: AI adding subtle details
fuhulootogan: impressivo
zoermena: Good model
zoermena: You are a new character to singularity server?
fuhulootogan: Normally you'd see AI fuck up at tiny details so this is a notch up
fuhulootogan: Yes
zoermena: The cult is growing
fuhulootogan: Amen
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1910843661123809627
alejandrozarzuelo: What r u talking about
futurist_wizard: They are talking about Sam altman vague postin
.histic: reminds you of somewhere?
futurist_wizard: And veo2
futurist_wizard: Which Europe doesn't have access to
zoermena: Oh shit you have it too?
.histic: yeah, i even have veo 2 on my alternative gmail lol
.histic: but the quota is pretty bad
zoermena: It just got good
zoermena: Queue
.histic: Sora's version of my prompt
futurist_wizard: Veo2 much better
wellmeaningalien: this sucks ass lol
.histic: Sora is so weird. i said to make it a timelapse with the camera panning through the hills of the reference image, but it turned all trippy.
.wolfnacht: imagine showing this to some vfx guy in 2015.
joaoluz19: Guys black mirror season 7
joaoluz19: It has an episode of FDVR?
.histic: which
joaoluz19: In this new season
.histic: which episode i meant
joaoluz19: I didn't watch yet, just wanted to know the episode
joaoluz19: From what I saw in the trailer, it looks like there will be one with conscious AIs in the FDVR, right?
.histic: probably this one
joaoluz19: Ooooh looks awesome
joaoluz19: It is tragic that cinematic representations are only dystopia. People's imagination does not visualize the multiple outcomes that can come to fruition.
joaoluz19: But it's still really good to see
technocake.: shotgun imo has to prove he's older than 17
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metaldragon01: I don't have the patience today for you. Please talk to an AI about your ideas
maintcrew: Very obtuse and politically obsessed
maintcrew: Low cognitive security
metaldragon01: I trying to use very simple examples that anyone can follow and you still get lost
metaldragon01: You bring up anthropic alignment paper and point out Chinese values sneaking in ect while not understanding what values Chinese models actually show
maintcrew:
metaldragon01: Or how people finetune out the values they don't like already
maintcrew: ---------
metaldragon01: And somehow you stay on the same point that has no basis in reality or how these things actually work
maintcrew: Hey normie go run deepseek-v4-it-uncensored on your h100
metaldragon01: What does that have to do with anything I've said?
maintcrew: That "just fine tune it out" is not a solution for the problem since since fine tuned releases are only used by in-circle ai bros. The danger lies in the masses getting their narrative shifted by careful subtle directions from official sources, again the most used release of deep seek is from their own app, not the perplexity fine tuned one
metaldragon01: The most used deepseek is almost certainly not the official site.
maintcrew: Fwiw china knows what im talking about and has already banned chatgpt
maintcrew: Do you have no normie friends
metaldragon01: They don't have thr capacity for the traffic and it's mostly from custom opensource providers hosting 9t companies hosting their own local models
metaldragon01: I normal friends obv
maintcrew: How many of them have installed a custom wrapper app and provided their own api key to use local models
metaldragon01: I also understand how logistics work
metaldragon01: ........I see the problem
metaldragon01: You're under the illusion that open source is mainly for personal use
maintcrew: Again, i think im proved right by China literally banning chatgpt, claude, gemini, etc. They see the problem that would pose
metaldragon01: And it hasn't clicked that it's mainly a enterprise solution
maintcrew: What has enterprise got to do with narrative shifts in the mass populace?
maintcrew:
metaldragon01: ...............take your meds
maintcrew: ------------
maintcrew: i stand by this
metaldragon01: I don't think you're in the space to talk about opensource or how it's actually used and why it's important
metaldragon01: All this talk about narratives has almost nothing to do with opensource models
maintcrew: I don't think you're mentally able to entertain an argument without insulting and demeaning the other person
maintcrew: And fundamentally misunderstand my point
maintcrew: I wasnt talking about oss models, i quoted this particular message
metaldragon01: Your point boils down to.
"If people use hosted Chinese models it can manipulate people!"
maintcrew: i was more generally talking about chinese models
maintcrew: or if youre china bro about american models
maintcrew: the same problem applies to both sides
metaldragon01: Which again has nothing to do with open source
metaldragon01: You could say it about any popular Chinese site
metaldragon01: But zero relevance to open source which was the topic
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metaldragon01: It eats all incentives by nature
metaldragon01: There's no greater incentive than ASI no matter the problem
futurist_wizard: I think people in here *want* agi to be soon, as to whether or not it actually will be, we can't know that
wellmeaningalien: what we believe is that it is rather soon is it not
wellmeaningalien: and to people who believe it will come soon it doesnt matter if it comes this year or in 30 years because to them this means a technology so powerful it is capable of extinction
futurist_wizard: Soon is relative, i think soon is with 10 years
drewsni: > tfw you write two scripts in 2 minutes that save possibly 100s of man hours and convince 15 people that AI is actually good.
I did my part today
metaldragon01: By the end of THIS YEAR actors will actually be up in arms.
Entertainment is a massive industry
wellmeaningalien: whatd u do
wellmeaningalien: my guilty pleasure is watching people get displaced by ai
futurist_wizard: I believe even if agi isn't soon at least some economical pressure will be instigated
futurist_wizard: With future implementations
metaldragon01: They won't be displaced. They just won't have as much demand
wellmeaningalien: sure
futurist_wizard: Hollywood actors won't be displaced
futurist_wizard: They have staying power
metaldragon01: Some small time actors will thrive actually
drewsni: A group I’m a part of had a task where they had to go through 2k YouTube videos and find and label 1% of what ended up being 400 videos essentially. Just did a stupid simple script to narrow the 2k down to 400 and then whisper transcript + deepseek narrowed down timestamps
metaldragon01: People love a good personality
wellmeaningalien: oh cool
drewsni: Yeah something everyone in this discord could do but nobody in that group has ever really used AI so they don’t know how easy it can be
drewsni: We will win the culture war this way
wellmeaningalien: yeah i feel like there is such a lack of knowledge of how good ai's gotten
wellmeaningalien: its inevitable people will wake up to just how good and practical ai is and it'll be unstoppable in every industry
metaldragon01: We win by default.
wellmeaningalien: we just need to sit and watch the antis lose
wellmeaningalien: <:Sip:836718497542176772>
metaldragon01: You can't beat something that gets better and cheaper at nearly everything
metaldragon01: We've never had anything close to this pace
.histic: that man loves clickbaiting about AI & OpenAI/Sam Altman.
but the comments seem to hate Sam & OpenAI... <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
drewsni: Tbf this task could have been completed with gpt 3 + whisper v1, but it certainly helps that I can use deepseek and get more reliably results for .1% the price
drewsni: Well in this case free…
metaldragon01: Yeap....
drewsni: New deepseek v3 is really good, if we all didn’t already know
drewsni: First time using the new version for me
metaldragon01: #4 style controlled on lymsys
metaldragon01: It's a beast
wellmeaningalien: gemini is way better because not only is it super cheap but its way more reliable on long context
drewsni: True but luckily for this use case I only needed 1k tokens per call
metaldragon01: R2 will probably match 2.5/o3
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hey1_1hey: prob thursday
hikukomoru: 1 week in Sama time = 1 year
steven_the_frog: Idk as a developer this seems like a good improvement. Better faster cheaper
zoermena: Is it cheaper than 4o?
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: sam has been more accurate
spicy.lemonade: he actually said weeks til o3 and o4mini
spicy.lemonade: its been like 1 week
hey1_1hey: Yep
spicy.lemonade: its faster too
hey1_1hey: 40% was it or am I hallucinating that
zoermena: This is incredibly good
benata: still doesn't beat gemini 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: not a base model
hikukomoru: Yeah
All that and not even better than 2.5
zoermena: Is 2.5 cheaper?
darkstar0818: gemini 2.5 flash wants you to hold its beer.
benata: way cheaper
spicy.lemonade: comparing apples to oranges
hikukomoru: Much much cheaper lol
zonchao: its cheaper and probably better at IF
literallyvarane: I think this could be better than 2.5 depending on use case.
theaiguy69420_89814: this is very good tbh
benata: god I fucking love 2.5
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395
benata: it's the model
zoermena: Wait if 2.5 is cheaper than 4o why are we looking at open ai?
benata: it's what I need
zonchao: its just a coding model, will have to see how it compares to claude
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
ailoveyoom: Sorry bro I was spoiled by Google 😎
literallyvarane: The fact it’s *not* CoT makes it much cheaper.
st.sioux: it depends on context
hikukomoru: People here want to cope
hey1_1hey: Komoru is litterly just a chinese shill trying to get us to hate amercian companies
shirethedreamer:
literallyvarane: If you want absolute raw high end performance 2.5 probably still wins.
literallyvarane: But this does fill a niche.
darkstar0818: gemini 2.5 flash will be the first thinking model which you can ask not to spend tokens on cot.
benata: I just looked at the announcement to laugh at their faces
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alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently you are someone of a lower ilk too, according to <@749514473303179358>
alejandrozarzuelo: How dare you find this impressive
alejandrozarzuelo: You cannot replace bitterness
fractalcomputer: Oh dear.
wellmeaningalien: it doesnt matter to me i'll always love you fractal
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/lebron-pigeon-ai-brainrot-construction-gif-3567584481701324703
fractalcomputer: Another victory for the eternal science of agapeic love.
wellmeaningalien: 😸 😸
fractalcomputer: The exact meaning of this creation eludes me.
zonchao: https://media1.tenor.com/m/FmDI8RuW9jQAAAAd/attheendoftheday.gif
zonchao: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
alejandrozarzuelo: This graph would get you a 0 in any lab class of mine
alejandrozarzuelo: Ffs
spicy.lemonade: lol
zoermena: I’m so fucking tired, I need the weekend <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
alejandrozarzuelo: The age of the scientist (and by extension mathematician) is over
Noone can revolutionise as a field as, say, Galois anymore
And this is ok, we simply have transcended the idea of THE (singular) scientist/mathematician
fractalcomputer: Scholze, Lurie and Mochizuki have all made significant contributions to their respective fields; Lurie is hailed as such a revolutionary in certain circles as well. So is Scholze. Mochizuki less so.
fractalcomputer: I mean, Scholze single-handledly introduced perfectoid spaces. And Lurie's HTT represents the greatest advancements in category theory in recent times.
alejandrozarzuelo: I can't say that I am aware of their work, but even in the Math research spaces that I move on, the idea that anyone can revolutionise or create a new field is simply inconceivable
Even though we are not a science we need large scale collabs, part of my predoc internship was learning how that works
fractalcomputer: Collaboration is obviously necessary in modern research; but that does not preclude singular visionaries from introducing incredibly novel ideas.
fractalcomputer: https://arxiv.org/abs/1111.4914
fractalcomputer: https://mathoverflow.net/questions/65729/what-are-perfectoid-spaces
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah no
In Math it may be harder to be so absolute as I am going to be
But in physics, chemistry and in general the natural sciences there is NO WAY a visionary can to anything even remotely close to revolutionary
Heck, the idea that even one very very large team could accomplish such a feat is extremely daunting although it does happen very sporadically
fractalcomputer: You have so little faith in yourself.
alejandrozarzuelo: This is literally one of the most important lessons we all learn in year 2 of university
Usually on the Laboratory II class, so we can see this for ourselves aswell as in the history lesson
alejandrozarzuelo: The scientist had to die for science to live
The scientist is dead, long live science
alejandrozarzuelo: When was the last scientific nobel price (i know its a very bad metric) that was awarded to the work of one scientist and not a huge team? Probably the Scalar Boson to Peter Higgs, made in the 70s
Coincidentally, the 70s is considered the last decade of the scientist era in science, sometimes the 80s but that's really pushing it
fractalcomputer: I'd certainly argue that a change in academic culture is largely behind this.
alejandrozarzuelo: I hate that they gave the nobel price to the director of the gravitational waves laboratory, instead of the head of the research, but that's just how it goes
alejandrozarzuelo: Spicy about to drop his wisdom
spicy.lemonade: I wasn’t saying anything lol
st.sioux: those damn bureaucrats stealing my nobel prize
alejandrozarzuelo: Aw man don't leave me hanging
alejandrozarzuelo: Frfr lol
fractalcomputer: Anyway, I'll keep praying to Gödel and Grothendieck every night and see where that takes me.
fractalcomputer: I find mathematics to be a largely spiritual activity.
spicy.lemonade: I wonder what nifty research Gemini 2.5 in an agentic framework could do today
spicy.lemonade: Could probably publish a calm lil arxiv paper
alejandrozarzuelo: I just hope that soon, AI will be so much better than any human, that we will get thousands of years of mathematics every year
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ailoveyoom: 😭
fractalcomputer: The West has fallen. Billions must become retarded.
hikukomoru: I should make one for some cash
otub: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
sarik0497: Indeed, and it's also why I doubt the lawsuit will really go anywhere. It seems more like a stunt in order to attract media attention than anything.
okbut: Ghibli co-founder makes 1 statement about his disgust in AI art generation
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/woah-shocked-domino-gif-17459289
ldj: sorry major typo lol, I meant to say "still" not "stop"
ldj: fixed
okbut: I wonder how good 4o is at making Tweety bird/minion memes
okbut: Huge boomer yellow-character market
st.sioux:
gamerbath: that's so sweet
literallyvarane: Did some ULTRA ballpark math because I could.
Obviously the models aren’t good enough for it yet either in terms of resolution of (more importantly) continuity, but if you were to take a 90 minute movie and turn it into a 24FPS Ghibli film assuming 29¢/frame round trip, that’s roughly a $38,000 project.
trojan09205: Anyone tried Google Veo
gamerbath: That's actually really cheap for a full move. There's so much optimization you can do with video models because not that much changes from frame to frame most of the time, but I wonder how long it will take to get it down to something consumer level like $100 per movie
ailoveyoom: Cents per movie 🥵
gamerbath: ghibli movies too cheap to meter 🥵
literallyvarane: The real barrier is just continuity and control. I’m sure Disney would LOVE a comic version of the entire marvel run lolol.
literallyvarane: But I think in terms of consumer level, if we assume 1/10th the price every ~12 months. That could place this within 5 years.
literallyvarane: Potentially *much* sooner if they optimize for that use case.
st.sioux: i dont think that would be too expensive? you would need like what 1 page per 5 minutes of movie
literallyvarane: ?
st.sioux: dont you mean turn the movies into comics?
literallyvarane: I’m talking about “Here’s a 24FPS Marvel movie. Return a comic book version of it.”
_cloudost: yes... Waited a week for gaining access, and when i got access I couldn't generate anything
literallyvarane: I don’t know what pages have to do with it.
_cloudost: Veo 2 currently doesnt allow animating images of people
gamerbath: it's so annoying how we can generate realistic videos but doing something as simple (relatively) as high quality lipsyncing for movies hasn't been done yet. There's probably so many great series and movies I haven't watched due to them being dubbed, I will go on netflix, find a series that looks interesting, play it, and then in 2 minutes get annoyed by the lip syncing being off. I have pressed on some times and kept watching, but I keep seeing it and it's annoying
trojan09205: ah 😦
gamerbath: "Cloudo robbing a bank, 4k, CCTV footage"
_cloudost: and i still got the issue, cant generatr anxthing useful
trojan09205: i was just trying to hit the rest api. gonna try in ai studio rn
st.sioux: i also face policy violations very often and it doesnt tell you why
st.sioux: very annoying
st.sioux: google cloud is just annoying in general
trojan09205: Panning wide shot of a husky playing with a chihuahua. in anime style
trojan09205: gonna try to use the python sdk. that was made in the ai studio. not bad actually tbh
drewsni: Why 29 cents frame
drewsni: Is it assumed every other frame will be bad and that’s why it’s 29 and not 19
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trent_k: they didn't even want to release GPT-2 for fear that it was too dangerous lol
ai9708: sam is a scamartist
okbut: But if AGI is free, AGI 2 gives you money
AGI 3 gives you more money
Goalpost shifts
Repeat
brain4brain: Pantheon
Her
Transcendent
Lucy (kinda related)
ai9708: "4.5 felt as agi btw"
brain4brain: Sam slander will not be tolerated
brain4brain: Money simply won’t exist <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
trent_k: check out the manga "Blame!"
pretty cool depiction of a misaligned ASI
fuhulootogan: now i have a pretty damn good image generator in my pocket
brain4brain: And now they are open-sourcing their o3 equivalent model to not get sued
trent_k: exactly - they're not doing it to be altruistic, or because they think it'll help humanity
brain4brain: I’ve heard of it before, it sounds cool
ai9708: hassabis is the real deal
fuhulootogan: i've heard of this one case where a hacker group leaked government cyber weapons to the public so quite literally anyone could use them
ai9708: i only believe him
brain4brain: No, this is all just a side mission towards AGI
AGI will benefit all of humanity in the end
Maybe not now, but in the future
brain4brain: The same guy that said we are 10 years away to AGI btw
trent_k: imo that is very much not guaranteed
ai9708: well shit then we gotta wait
fuhulootogan: yes
brain4brain: I’m neutral/ positive about him
ai9708: maybe he changes his timeline soonish
brain4brain: No.
trent_k: EternalBlue, later used in NotPetya ransomware iirc
trent_k: wait no it was WannaCry
fuhulootogan: actually i just agree with the part where AGI will benefit humanity
fuhulootogan: i think because of cases like these
fuhulootogan: it may be possible that when ASI comes
fuhulootogan: it may get leaked as well
brain4brain: If this will be the 2,000$ plan, imagine the 20k$ plan
brain4brain: The PhD super agent leak were real
brain4brain: They have achieved AGI internally
fuhulootogan: the pricing is worth it
fuhulootogan: better than any slave you'll find on planet earth
brain4brain: A little confuse, but got the spirit
fuhulootogan: actually
fuhulootogan: maybe not
fuhulootogan: oh it's per month
brain4brain: I need an AI that can do 90% of all digital job and AI research
brain4brain: Yes
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hikukomoru: Fire Punch
wellmeaningalien: oh god he is WHITE
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> what the fuck actually is up with fire punch
wellmeaningalien: the first two chapters are like
wellmeaningalien: would have you believe it was written by jeffrey epstein
hikukomoru: Fire Punch is so fucked
hikukomoru: It felt like a fever dream
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: i dont like = fascism
.histic: 150k NPCs liked this.
gamerbath: SyntaxError: invalid syntax
gamerbath: line1
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ironic they're still using twitter
zoermena: This whole artist vs ai turmoil is just sad for everyone involved, truly unfortunate
hikukomoru: Artists are the ones at fault though
otub: bluesky is too much of a safe space so they cant argue with anyone
hikukomoru: Damn 4o image gen takes so long
drewsni: I think servers are fucked rn
joaoluz19: The goths are worth the wait
_cloudost: AI haters are using it in masses so we can't use it, they don't have a life
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: but it's paid only?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I think it's just really popular. Once the Chinese version comes out it's over
maintcrew: no its 3 gens frew now i think
_cloudost: I hope so
_cloudost: No one will care if the Chinese version violates Copyright laws
.histic: wtf, 4o generated an image in like 5 seconds for me lol
.histic: a GPU burp.
.histic: holy shit.. it's blazing fast for me rn
.histic: fuck i got rate limited
.histic:
drewsni: speaking of that
drewsni:
drewsni: holy fuck
drewsni: never ran into this kinda thing
hikukomoru: I know you posted AI but which image
drewsni:
drewsni: wait are you in the nascar server? lol
gamerbath: it's correct. that's impressive
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hikukomoru: Alejandro you horndog
alejandrozarzuelo: nah the ones i tend to read on exam season are usually very mild in the lewd aspect haha
trojan09205: absolutely bro. ive watched the series twice cause its really amazing. basically determinism vs. multi-worlds hypothesis in a captivating story
trojan09205: have you ever read the Sandman
zoermena: I hate college fucking dog shit forcing me to learn piss and poop
alejandrozarzuelo: nope
trojan09205: my fav comic book of all time
alejandrozarzuelo: ill check it out
trojan09205: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Sandman-1989/Issue-1?id=14226&s=&readType=1
trojan09205: It's much better in actual print version but theyre kind of expensive
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean i am cheap lol
hikukomoru: What are you studying
zoermena: Dog shit administration poop fart
hikukomoru: What're you reading
trojan09205: so that link or others will do haha. this is the repo i follow to snag free content online
https://fmhy.net/videopiracyguide#live-tv-sports
sidebar has the category types
zoermena: Based
alejandrozarzuelo: if i tell you you'll endlessly tease me about it no matter what I say so i wont
try being nicer
hikukomoru: You know I'm always nice 🥰
Just tell me
alejandrozarzuelo: and give you more ammunition for next time even if you are nice this one?
alejandrozarzuelo: nah
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case i think i already mentioned one of the ones i like the most and consider a great piece of literature a while back, but you probably werent here
hikukomoru: Pwease 🥺
I'll behave 😊
alejandrozarzuelo: one of the ones i read a long time ago that i think is pretty good is Adastra
Roman empire sci-fi gay furry alien romcom interplanetary geopolitical drama mystery with existentialism and philosophical themes and a really original worldbuilding
whats there not to love? (also, while it is true that the main lead is gay, this is not a gay story, well, not anymore than any story with a opposite sex couple as a romantic subplot is a "hetero story")
it is very good, and the main criticism about it is that it doesnt have a very strong vice-lead but thats because its supposed to be a self-insert character, and considering how many times the average man thinks about the roman empire, its a pretty effective one at that
its not everyones cup of tea but it is very beloved, it is also quite quite long... which is despite the fact that Visual Novels tend to be read faster per word than normal ones
alejandrozarzuelo: i hope you do behave <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
joaoluz19: What in the actual fuck
hey1_1hey: YO WHAT THE
hey1_1hey: I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT GILLY GALLING IN HERE AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FURRY ALIEAN ROMCOM
precariousworlds.: It's not too late to find Christ
hey1_1hey: I'm not religious but I support this message now
futurist_wizard: my goodness
futurist_wizard: is this appropriate alejandro? i don't think so
futurist_wizard: you will spend the next 500 years in matrix hell
hey1_1hey: Being lenient now aren't we?
gamerbath: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hey1_1hey: This is just another strawberry guy sadly
hey1_1hey: If only it was true 🙏
oimrqs: yeah exactly
oimrqs: i love this group so much but unfortunately I barely use discord 😦 would love a version of this on telegram
popsiclejohnithan: I call bullshit honestly, i'll believe it when i see it.
popsiclejohnithan: I would absoloutly love it to be true though.
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.histic:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-shinji-shinji-ikari-ikari-neon-genesis-evangelion-gif-21115075
hey1_1hey: "What you doing step-tank, oh don't load your APDS into me 🥵 "
hikukomoru: wrong gif
.histic: damn she got abs.
hikukomoru: I meant to post the jorking one
.histic:
.wolfnacht: this one hits hard
wellmeaningalien: mark zuckerberg dog
.wolfnacht: wait, isn't her hair should be a bit blonde ?
hey1_1hey: Thats fuck up bro 😭
hey1_1hey: Sundar is really feelin it
st.sioux: Idk
wellmeaningalien: blonde hair genes are recessive and black hair genes are dominant
st.sioux: There's so many women, wow
wellmeaningalien: my mom is ginger and me n my brothers have black hair cause of my dad
hikukomoru: "Wow. Everything's woman."
wellmeaningalien: someone keeps making CCTV footage of people stealing things from supermarkets in the 80s/90s
spicy.lemonade: HOW IS IT GONNA WRITE RESEARCH IF IT CANT WRITE AN ESSAY
spicy.lemonade: HOW IS IT GONNA DRAW MATHEMATICSL FIGURES IF IT CANT DRAW
hikukomoru: This is true
My dad is blond and I have black hair because of my mom
hey1_1hey: True, computers and women are basically the same anyway. You can program them the same atleast
clevermoniker: lmao Mark
spicy.lemonade: AAAAAAAAA
spicy.lemonade: I’m gonna go insane
ailoveyoom: Bro don't be like Cloudo
ailoveyoom: Don't fall for ragebait lol
.wolfnacht: sad, u'r now average.
hikukomoru: I wish women were progammable
hey1_1hey: The ones I know are
fractalcomputer: Why do you people engage in this sort of banal tirading? Do you never tire of it?
wellmeaningalien: this actually looks like an ad, wtf
hey1_1hey: That makes me seem like I manipulate women. Side note: I don't
.wolfnacht: They will be, soon.
wellmeaningalien: its gives them life
ailoveyoom: Cursed Youtube ahh add I see when scrolling by
fractalcomputer: And steals mine.
_3sphere: Still better than Reddit ads
wellmeaningalien: equivalent exchange
.wolfnacht: soon, u won't need to read tons of books on dark psych
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spicy.lemonade: no. a phd could read the transformers is all you need paper and reproduce with nothing but a terminal
metaldragon01: Is that how humans did it? Nothing but the terminal?
spicy.lemonade: thats bare minimum
spicy.lemonade: which o3 cant do
metaldragon01: You give them the scaffolding we use to achieve thr same goals
spicy.lemonade: im not talking about doing new research
spicy.lemonade: im talking about reproducing an experiment
spicy.lemonade: it read
spicy.lemonade: basically follow the papers instructions
metaldragon01: With the right scaffolding I'm pretty sure o3 can nail it
.wolfnacht: AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER AI WINTER
metaldragon01: Scaffolding helps soooo much
metaldragon01: People really aren't pushing the limits at all on these models
metaldragon01: They've gotten good an we have gotten lazier as a result
spicy.lemonade: they would have displayed custom scafolding
spicy.lemonade: like when they did with o1
metaldragon01: ???
spicy.lemonade: o1-ioi
metaldragon01: Why would they do that?
spicy.lemonade: they always do it
metaldragon01: They aren't serving the scaffolding
spicy.lemonade: to make theyre benchmarks look cooler
metaldragon01: They serve the models
spicy.lemonade: they didnt serve o1-ioi
metaldragon01: Wrapper companies sell scaffolding
spicy.lemonade: claude tested swe bench with custom scafolding
metaldragon01: And we don't have nearly enough wrappers
metaldragon01: What's your point?
metaldragon01: You think they used the best possible?
metaldragon01: Ofc not
spicy.lemonade: i think the improvement was minimal
spicy.lemonade: and deepresearch is
spicy.lemonade: the custom scafolding
metaldragon01: Right...for a particular task...
metaldragon01: You can stack scaffoldings
metaldragon01: When I'm doing books thr models aren't great
metaldragon01: But if you have scaffolding for each task they can be pretty good
metaldragon01: Just because a model isn't 1 shoting something doesn't mean it can't do it reliably with the right scaffolding
metaldragon01: It's the whole reason these wrappers are worth billions
zoermena: Are you happy with the new models
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ailoveyoom: Yeah, my problem wasn't with the graphics tho. It was like, the no tutorial thing. I'm just a Skybaby at heart 🥺 need quest markers
futurist_wizard: I shouldn't of ate before i go to the gym
anathemaofmankind: You must hate elden ring then
artemisfowl887394: A Yum Watts scenario means that a being is alive and conscious but is programmed to love its own misery.
artemisfowl887394: That's like slavery but with extra steps.
ailoveyoom: Yeah I don't do Souls likes
futurist_wizard: Elden Ring is probably one of my favourite gwamez
anathemaofmankind: I thought souls likes were painful until I tried sekiro
Best game I've ever played
spicy.lemonade: ah
futurist_wizard: Sekiro is easier than a lot of them
futurist_wizard: Once you learn the combat
anathemaofmankind: Yeah the learning curve is high but it's easy when you master it.
But that's what makes it better as your skill actually matters more than equipment and weapon upgrades for unga bunga
hikukomoru: I believe there are mods that add quest markers
hikukomoru: Same for Morrowind
artemisfowl887394: Have you guys played Dying Light 2 yet?
ailoveyoom: I got through Morrowind just fine tho fsr
futurist_wizard: I just think the combat is more fun and diverse in sekiro but its too short to be the best
futurist_wizard: So Elden Ring post dlc will be my favourite
hikukomoru: Also the Daggerfall 3D mods look way too out of place
hikukomoru: 3D skeletons right next to 2D bandits
anathemaofmankind: Elden ring dlc was mid for me
anathemaofmankind: Consort radahn ruined everything
futurist_wizard: Why
anathemaofmankind: They reused a boss from base game and animations from DS3.
I remember how controversial it was when leaks showed up
futurist_wizard: He's very hard, the hardest boss they're ever done but he's fair
hikukomoru: What do you think about a future Morrowind remaster
hikukomoru: Like what happened to Oblivion
futurist_wizard: Pontiff was also a good boss
oooooooooog: 💀
futurist_wizard: They also sadly nerfed radahn because of complaints
anathemaofmankind: Gael is a good fair boss. Radahn making afterimages and two shotting with max scadutree fragments isn't fair
anathemaofmankind: Oh well I killed him before the nerf
futurist_wizard: I don't remember any move that two shots you, but gael in comparison is easy
futurist_wizard: Basically every other souls game is easy in comparison
trojan09205: “Im not mad im exhausted”
hey1_1hey: Lock this mf up 🗣️ 🗣️
ailoveyoom: I can't play it myself if UE5 prolly, but I'd love to see daddy Dagoth 🥵
futurist_wizard: I managed to beat the whole game and dlc 3 times before the nerf
anathemaofmankind: I beat it like once. It's not even the difficulty but it's just so long
joaoluz19: Thanks for the tip!
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technocake.: the bigger a step change the better
spacetimetsunami: it would be very unlike the GOP and the presidential cabinet to advocate for ubi
spacetimetsunami: but with sufficient societal unrest it will happen
spacetimetsunami: maybe lol
technocake.: they'll do it if it's economically needed
spacetimetsunami: hopefully
technocake.: they are the party that did corona stimulus
spacetimetsunami: right, but Trump was surrounded with people who werent retarded loyalists at that time
spacetimetsunami: now things are very different
technocake.: let him get gilloutined then
spacetimetsunami: by who lol
technocake.: "antifa"
technocake.: aka america
spacetimetsunami: he would have to do things that very personally affect people in awful ways that arent too abstracted
technocake.: if it gets bad enough, americans will revolt
spacetimetsunami: because if theyre too abstracted people wont make the correlation to him
spacetimetsunami: right, bad enough may be far away
technocake.: fair
spacetimetsunami: with the economic disruption he is causing people will likely just blame AI and tech for it in a couple years when it all manifests
spacetimetsunami: theyll hate automation and revolt against that, maybe not the administration
spacetimetsunami: although he is fucking shit up pretty quick so who knows
spacetimetsunami: but im talking about things without a meaningful amount of technical knowledge in the topic
spacetimetsunami: so idrk
technocake.: I think that the coming wave will sweep past the significance of government and world gov pretty quickly
technocake.: nobody will be able to go up against superintelligence
spacetimetsunami: yeah to an extent i see that as likely, like with an intelligence explosion i think this happens
spacetimetsunami: they need to hurry up with super good agents
spacetimetsunami: ACCELERATE GO GO GO GO GO
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/wojak-brainlet-microwave-smoke-dumb-gif-3026155548321433372
technocake.:
technocake.: oh sorry you might not have seen that film, because you are a minor
fuhulootogan: i've seen the cover for inglorious bastards but not the movie
technocake.: wow, a real polymath!
fuhulootogan: how did you guess
technocake.: would your parents like it if I told them you were in a server that promoted not just trans and gay lifestyles but also furry ones?
technocake.: and even more strange things beyond that?
technocake.: you should ask them
fuhulootogan: oh wow
fuhulootogan: thats how you knew?
technocake.: no I knew because you are a textbook teenage edgelord
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spicy.lemonade: this is a looks like a duck quaks like a duck scenario
spicy.lemonade: idk
spicy.lemonade: but it might aswell be
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1904898131235660138
fractalcomputer: And if you find a thing that quacks like a duck where you definitely should not be seeing a duck, you should conclude that that thing is just something that is really good at playing its own simulacrum of a duck and not a duck.
spicy.lemonade: I dont think id think that deep
spicy.lemonade: if i saw a duck
spicy.lemonade: lol
clevermoniker: Grok4? lmao, we don't even have Grok3 API yet
clevermoniker: Grok4 ain't happening before Llama 4
spicy.lemonade: like idk say i saw a duck type creature on mars
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: "oh shit its a duck, wtf"
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: as far as im concerened it behaves just like one
spicy.lemonade: i havent studied the internal workings
spicy.lemonade: but doesnt really mater
spicy.lemonade: at high level its a duck
spicy.lemonade: could be silicon based life form for all i know
spicy.lemonade: still at a high level
spicy.lemonade: duck
fractalcomputer: I mean, let's presume that their capabilities were trained on tons of pictures or paintings; presumably taken or painted by humans of the real world with the intentions of depicting it more or less faithfully and so on—would it now "understand" (how I hate that word, but we shall go by your definition) only the depictions or the real world presented therein with varying degrees of accuracy and symbolism?
darkstar0818: Today proves that intelligence stands no chance against a meme generator.
fractalcomputer: Between which things is it learning to make the connections? Between the pictures or objects in the real world or both (to what degree it can, limited by the data)?
fractalcomputer: Can we really trust neural networks to infer the same abstractions we naturally make based on our common lived consensus?
darkstar0818: Give humans a choice between a peak mathematician philosopher and degenerate cartoon photo generator and the choice is clear.
spicy.lemonade: sure itl understand what the photos depict. but if you want the models to be accurate to real world as possible then just give it constant stream of photos of real world
fractalcomputer: Take for example a picture of a man and his proportions; we naturally understand his morphology through these notions, proportions and so on, but how might we be sure that the network is thinking about proportions and measures and so on?
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136230110891081821/1354460125028421742/raw.png?ex=67e55eca&is=67e40d4a&hm=8459cd606fe06a1d403a662e28360f984a4971bfb9b4bea3e69c6611664a6410&
fractalcomputer: Or what about a video of a falling apple; has it inferred the existence of gravity or has it just understood that certain objects move in certain ways without really seeing the big picture of physics?
fractalcomputer: Neural networks are for obvious reasons extremely adept at finding patterns we might not ourselves notice; that's why we make them, for their unique perspective of sorts but we (you) don't for some reason implicitly extend this reasoning for image generation and so on. The question is then what patterns are *they* seeing that we are not; and knowing that, understanding what we understand seems to another issue.
spicy.lemonade: ghiblify everything
metaldragon01: Ok....i actually want to see this
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: holy hell
spicy.lemonade: perfect
spicy.lemonade: my god
zoermena: I’ve made my avatar (further adjustments will be done tomorrow)
professorheaven: It makes sense why they took so long to roll this out, it quite literally puts photoshop to an end
spicy.lemonade: it was worth the wait
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wellmeaningalien: did komoru hijack ur account 🏳️⚧️
alejandrozarzuelo: But yeah, things have value outside of capitalism
Do not equate capitalism with economics, economics has existed for longer than capitalism
futurist_wizard: You spook too many people talkin bout government authoritarianism
futurist_wizard: My social credit score increased by typing that
_cloudost: does my sketch look soulless ?
st.sioux: i regret to inform you that you have no soul
_cloudost: Does this one seem more soulful to you?
futurist_wizard: The opposite
_cloudost: Btw This drawing was generated with an open source AI image generator
_cloudost: Openais native IMG gen could never
futurist_wizard: I want to give it an open source punch to the face
_cloudost:
_cloudost: For saint Sama
saph.ai: hello chatters
technocake.: oh shit long time no see
saph.ai: yeahh been a lil while
saph.ai: i sorry just been preoccupied in other chats and real life
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shy-hi-gif-25532260
.histic: hola
saph.ai: hola que tal
saph.ai: also i saw this twitter posted on one of the servers i am in
https://x.com/Josikinz/status/1905440949054177604
trent_k: 4o is great for misinformation and propaganda
saph.ai: nade me sad
hikukomoru: I know where this character is from
That anime is so sus
hikukomoru: I feel like you've been becoming a conspiracytard lately
More than usual
trent_k: About the pizzagate stuff for sure yes. But goofy schizo conspiracy art is a lot of fun even if the majority of the ideas in it are stupid af
trent_k: David Dees on top 📈
wellmeaningalien: i can already see dudes making conspiracy podcasts using the shit out of this
_cloudost: I dont watch anime so idk about it
wellmeaningalien: its porn isnt it
futurist_wizard: Lab grown meat is based
.histic: https://oniichan-wa-oshimai.fandom.com/wiki/Mahiro_Oyama
hikukomoru: It's an ecchi
The plot is a little boy gets turned into a little girl by his older sister
.histic: i havent watched anime in the last 3 years
.histic: nor a movie in the last 2
wellmeaningalien: michiko to hatchin is the best anime because it takes place in brazil
wellmeaningalien: i wanna watch 2001 a space odyssey
_cloudost: Btw 4o full had native image generator, but it can also generate 3D models, when will Sama release the next 4o model?
wellmeaningalien: havent watched it yet
zoermena: Next year
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trey6033: Per benchmarks o3 mini is slightly stronger than grok 3 mini. Likewise o1 medium is stronger than grok 3.
.0xunkn0wn: yeah
.0xunkn0wn: i asked it to come up with new ways
destrucules: Actual metrics
destrucules: Grok 3 mini > o3 mini
trey6033: Blurry ah pic
destrucules: Click the thing it'll unblur
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1917226909609722103
trey6033: No it's blurred when clicked
okbut: Nobody is talking about Meta <:Hmm:804642320195780619>
joaoluz19: Yes, clearly gpt has a tiny creative potential. It can make references to literature but not articulate different knowledge to produce something new (on a mind uploading scale).
destrucules: Click "open in browser"
joaoluz19: Because it's a nothingburger
st.sioux: it cant
okbut: Many such cases
destrucules: Can you blame us?
destrucules: I'm an advocate of the Llama 4 models and even I don't care
joaoluz19: How is it that the chief scientist there is totally anti-LLM and we only see Llama? Where is Lecun with the new paradigms?
okbut: I cannot
destrucules: He's a Turing Award winner, but also the laughing stock of ML
st.sioux: working on them probably
destrucules: <@426634483689848843> do you see the numbers now? I wasn't whiffing your point, I was trying to show you that across metrics, unless you're exclusively looking at LiveCodeBench or HLE, Grok 3 mini is actually stronger than o3 mini
trey6033:
joaoluz19: I mean being top 8 in world citations is big
trey6033: o3 mini high is strongest model on AIM 2025 @pass1
destrucules: Okay so on AIME'25 Grok 3 mini (no reasoning effort specified) is close second place to o3 mini (high) - that's *one* benchmark
destrucules: Yup. Was on a lot of teams that did great work in the 2010s and now it's revealed that he had no sauce at all
st.sioux: so much disrespect
destrucules: He deserves it
destrucules: So does Marcus
destrucules: So does Mitchell
destrucules: This is the New York Times saying we would have flying machines a million years from now the day before humans actually invented the first powered human flight vehicles, except Marcus and Mitchell and LeCun are still pretending we can't build airplanes when they're flying around in the sky carrying people from city to city every day
destrucules: Laugh at them. They've earned it
destrucules: They're moon landing deniers, not respectable scientists
joaoluz19: There are some things that are hard to swallow, like LeCun saying that GPT was less than "cat level" in intelligence.
joaoluz19: But some skepticism of LLM and looking for new architectures I don't see a problem with that
joaoluz19: The problem is that he hasn't shown how his architecture is superior so far.
destrucules: I agree
destrucules: I didn't say Connor Leahy was a laughing stock. He spent a lot of work on new architectures too
fractalcomputer: Is that a problem? Does one need to provide alternatives?
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brain4brain: Yes, it will need to be 1:1 and eventually less
spicy.lemonade: true ig
spicy.lemonade: ngl we need more competition on the hardware side
spicy.lemonade: nvidia is slacking
brain4brain: Also does the METR paper only measure computer science task?
brain4brain: Or did they also measure other task
ldj: They have a set of general reasoning tasks in there too
ldj: along with AI research specific tasks
brain4brain: Oh wow
ldj: I think like 30% of it is part of the "general reasoning" bucket
ldj: and then roughly 40% is mostly software engineering
ldj: and then I think the last 30% of it is AI research tasks
clevermoniker: same
clevermoniker: that's why my AGI definition is based on it being capable of automating jobs, and jobs have time limits
drewsni: slacking? they moved the release cycle from 2 yrs to 1yr and the leaps are even bigger between generations
drewsni: plus theyre producing triple the gpus that they did two years ago
brain4brain: What’s your AGI timeline
drewsni: literally redlining lmao
clevermoniker: i think earliest for AGI is late 2026 as of now, but much more probable on 2027-28
clevermoniker: AGI for me is capable of automating 50% of digital jobs
spicy.lemonade: FASTER
spicy.lemonade: MORE
drewsni: tell tsmc to hurry up
clevermoniker: <@848793071579693107> what's your AGI timeline?
brain4brain: 2025.
brain4brain: AGI for me is capable of automating 90% of digital jobs
clevermoniker: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
clevermoniker: so they will solve long term memory and resilience this year?
clevermoniker: <:doubt:1241973773683654719>
brain4brain: Yes
zoermena: You made a mistake, CM will bully you in perpetuity now
brain4brain: 2026 is also probably for me, some variation of my math says 2026, while the other say 2025 (we don’t talk about 2027)
brain4brain: It will happen
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/100percent-happening-wes-bentley-jamie-dutton-yellowstone-accurate-gif-18587905
clevermoniker: <@848793071579693107> ok, so, let's say you are right and it happens this year, how long for ASI?
brain4brain: How many % do you think current system is capable of automating?
clevermoniker: without long term memory? not much that's for sure
brain4brain: 2026 - 2028
brain4brain: Give a vibe guesstimate
clevermoniker: why so big of a range?
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himekokatagiri: he's PR
.histic: for who?
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: he isn't an OpenAI absolutist
he has shilled for other labs too
spicy.lemonade: idk why but lately
spicy.lemonade: ive been feeling the agi
spicy.lemonade: so hard
spicy.lemonade: anyone else relate?
spicy.lemonade: for the past week ive been very bulish
.histic: actually, Noam's answer gives me pessimism.
"like yeah we can topple ARC-AGI 2 by scaling inference but that doesn't mean it's AGI" basically.
metaldragon01: Yea o3 makes it feel much more real.
spicy.lemonade: nah
spicy.lemonade: i like this answer
spicy.lemonade: its his job as a researcher to not make claims hes not certain about
spicy.lemonade: also we knew this
spicy.lemonade: i think arc 3 will be the true agi test
spicy.lemonade: bc is also tests agency and learning new actions
spicy.lemonade: arc1 and 2 are incontext learning
spicy.lemonade: reason
fractalcomputer: I love agency. I'm feeling so agentic rn.
.histic: we need to RLHF you.
st.sioux: it was kind of a weird mood shift for me, models keep getting better but improvements in coding don't really feel substantial enough, personally
himekokatagiri: where's your manifesto, howard
fractalcomputer: I'm agentic all the time; in fact, in my favourite movie, they said "it's agenting time" and "agencied" all over the place.
himekokatagiri: I want to read it
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/morbius-im-about-to-morb-its-morbin-time-morbius-sweep-marvel-gif-25782014
himekokatagiri: I have to learn about my future overlords
himekokatagiri: so I can prepare
.histic: better at benchmarks but not real-world tasks ig.
st.sioux: yeah exactly
fractalcomputer: Never. Death to humans.
zoermena: I’ve started to feel AGI ever since I tested deep research for the first time, even with full o3 released I don’t have a lot of STEM tasks to test it on <:idk:1136264106937171999>
himekokatagiri: but I don't wanna die
himekokatagiri: why are like half of you
himekokatagiri: 'everyone must die'
spicy.lemonade: is there a server where i can debate anti ai people
himekokatagiri: what is this is your name not important
himekokatagiri: that's called trolling
spicy.lemonade: alot of their arguements arent based on fact and id like to debate
himekokatagiri: now they call it ragebait
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precariousworlds.: China has insane infrastructure and their rapid development in the past few decades is one of the most tremendous feats in human history.
China is also an authoritarian oppressive police state, that is significantly poorer than the US in almost every metric
.wolfnacht: it's year 2064 and we are living under the one world govt of Chinese Shogunate
.wolfnacht: Also russians can't even make LLM's, Yandex's still making finetunes of L3. for their browser use case
precariousworlds.: China is nationalist in outlook, they don't want global domination, just a world order centered around them and Chinese hegemony, similar to how global trade revolved around China from ~500 BC to ~ 1600 AD
.histic: honestly, it's kind of weird to praise countries you don't live in or especially never visited.
i noticed a lot of people really glazing/praising China when r1 happened, not only praising DeepSeek, but the actual country where DeepSeek came from. and the majority of these people have never lived in China nor plan to.
it's pretty funny...
i can glaze the US because at least i actually live there and understand it.
st.sioux: why does it look like that
.histic: China probably loves those type of people.
wellmeaningalien: cuz i like it like that
hikukomoru: China loves me? 😍
.histic: Yes. They want you to visit there. : )
.histic: free round trip
precariousworlds.: Exactly
A lot of china looks flashy and futuristic, like Chongqing and Shenzhen, but when you look behind the central areas the real China appears
Tofu bricks, poverty, crackdown on dissent, pollution
.wolfnacht: Power always end up getting corrupted so. Even US was build on promises of freewill and idea of utopia. Maybe today they are not what they say, but that's not a guarantee.
precariousworlds.: But still China is a really impressive place and how they've lifted themselves out of poverty to being a superpower is again one of the most impressive feats in all of history
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136230110891081821/1354169149294772294/ccp-cheering.gif?ex=67eae74c&is=67e995cc&hm=6c8af51d08d87f2e0cc459478b5ff1918f32de26bb24ca8c0eed4c360863c3dc&
precariousworlds.: The USA follows a universal ideology, china doesn't really unless you count marxism, which has very little influence in modern Chinese society
.wolfnacht: Also, cheap labour is far important
hikukomoru: I'm going to ask Mr. Xi Jinping for a kiss 🥺
.histic: poverty can make people work hard..
especially when you've 1 billion+ people at your disposal.
newer generations in China are "lying-flat".
precariousworlds.: This is the no. 1 biggest obstacle for China, the entire country is dying
One of the most rapidly aging societies in the world
Hence why i think they'll make a big bet on automating the secondary sector
precariousworlds.: Still 1.4 billion people of mostly homogeneous language and culture is fucking insane
.histic: i think you'll like Xi Mingze.
.histic: are you in the US by any chance?
precariousworlds.: No UK
precariousworlds.: Well partly South Africa too
clevermoniker: just sing this first to have a chance:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPuy59xHHFE
.histic: either way, our best strategy for the west is to offer visas to talented Chinese. i don't want an authoritarian nation to win the race to AGI. many may disagree, but it is what it is. i'm not in favor of banning Chinese products; the west relies heavily on china for manufacturing, but we must stay ahead by attracting skilled, hardworking Chinese. we can lose in all other technological accounts in the long-term if China does become the next world superpower, but in AI we must stay ahead.
.histic: have you watched serpentz by any chance? 😆
he's south african too.
wellmeaningalien: absolutely retarded idea to restrict visas for chinese machine learning experts
.histic: <@458069236825194506> damn
precariousworlds.: The West should minimize low skilled immigration and massively increase at all costs high skilled. The way we win (lee kuan yew recognized this) is by opening the floodgates to the best and brightest of the entire world. That includes a lot of Chinese, who are extremely talented. No one else can do this really
precariousworlds.: No actually
wellmeaningalien: damn i almost thought this was real for a sec
wellmeaningalien: that would be a damn good toy
precariousworlds.: Ngl I really love traditional Chinese culture and I'd love to see it have a bigger presence in western society
My dream for the US is to be a combination of the best from all cultures of humanity, United in one dream for the future
China can't do thar
st.sioux: they used ai for the magazine (they will be canceled)
st.sioux: oh wait im stupid
st.sioux: is it all ai? i cant tell 😔
precariousworlds.: Looks interesting
alejandrozarzuelo: your profile screams panhumanist globalist cosmopolitan
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st.sioux: a llama that is of grand stature and authority
joaoluz19: If this were to happen, it would be a design problem. If we are talking about mind-uploading, I think it is perfectly possible to freely map and manipulate internal states with cost functions extracted from neural circuits.
Now, in the biological body, it is all about controlling processes at different scales, histological/cellular/subcellular and perhaps beyond. Nanorobots could probably be a solution. Since the literature on this is scarce, we could think of new architectures for neurophysiological stimulation.
But I think the focus should be solely on mind-uploading.
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/kuzco-emperor-emperors-new-groove-groove-react-gif-17845300621535099014
_3sphere: It's a mess because it's a philosophical problem, not a technical one
bob082957: I think the keyboard somehow sometimes leaks other people typing some quantum entanglement or some shit
_3sphere: you know, the common argument that the system needs to have suffering as a reference to be happy relative to
st.sioux: i don't think anyone has ever typed grand llama before
st.sioux: we might be the first
_3sphere: Some shitposter somewhere def did
okbut: Idk much about the field, but aside from ethics, I wonder if there are cost-effective proposals for gathering mind data yet
okbut: Preferentially one without surgery etc
_3sphere: Beta-uploading?
okbut: I'll read it <:PeepoHappy:402867832175460363>
joaoluz19: Ideally this should be answered with computational models of qualia.
_3sphere: If only those existed
joaoluz19: To do this, we first need to scale a series of intracellular neurophysiological recordings in the individual over time.
hikukomoru: Didn't happen
And if it did the Falun Gong deserved it
joaoluz19: My criticism is precisely that there is very little research dedicated to, for example, measuring the nerve impulses of the 86 billion neurons, not just one part
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Jesus Christ...
bob082957: Im wasn’t typing it. It was suggested from lm model im iPhone keyboard
_3sphere: Probably needs too many probes?
_3sphere: The stentrodes that recently got past some trials might help
hikukomoru:
_3sphere: https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/synchrons-brain-computer-interface-clears-year-long-safety-study
joaoluz19: There are already many successful cases like Neuralink and I think that since 2022 it will be possible to do semantic and syntactic extraction, that is, the meaning of what you are thinking and what words you are thinking.
_3sphere: idk, for mind uploading this would have to run for years and years
_3sphere: so it catches everything about your mind
okbut: But oh man the billions that Neuralink had to throw at beauracracy alone for Neuralink
sarik0497: I think that's mostly due to
A) People don't really think or know about the Singularity.
And B) The Singularity can still be far, far away for all we know.
_3sphere: A diary and social media data export are still the leading mind upload tech
joaoluz19: Current electrodes are not scalable, nanorobots are a possibility and I have already seen a work by a researcher from Portugal on, don't know of any others.
okbut: Primates are so costly for pre-clinicals, I think the first cost-effective mind uploads will use external devices
joaoluz19: I'm talking about the group of people who really believe in singularity and are still like that.
_3sphere: The first "mind uploads" will be AIs made to model human psychology and fitted to an individual based on various records, with lots of debate about whether that counts as a mind upload
bob082957: Like zuk
okbut: Hmm yeah I see that being dubbed a biography upload
_3sphere: https://gwern.net/difference
sarik0497: Trust me when I say this: The moment there is a tiny hint that it's possible, the money will come pouring. Look at AI not too long ago and now as an example, and at gene therapies before and after CRISPR became well known.
joaoluz19: There are a few possibilities I was starting to explore before I abandoned neuroscience. Some of them might be that you can extract "identity" or "consciousness" which are different things from overlapping vector subspaces. I mean, you wouldn't need to measure "everything" of the brain
okbut: Is the idea to upload the "words" being fathomed by the mind or to encode/decode it as words?
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wellmeaningalien: but at the same time not i guess
wellmeaningalien: nobody can tell
wellmeaningalien: after all all the recent developments have been so unexpected
sarik0497: Exactly, and that's the "scary" part for me. Imagine if we all get excited for nothing. I kind of doubt it given the vast amounts of money and of resources being poured into it right now, but you never know.
wellmeaningalien: indeed
wellmeaningalien: i guess thats why my best life advice for you right now probably is dont make any bold predictions about anything and dont live as if the economic system is gonna collapse or everyone is gonna die soon or
wellmeaningalien: because after all what can a peon like you can do if ASI does come to be
wellmeaningalien: great time to realise our time here is limited too and get out of your shell
sarik0497: Agreed. I give the same advice to everyone who comes asking "Should I do X and Y if AGI is just around the corner?"
If anything, even if AGI doesn't show up, these types of AI will change the world a bit.
wellmeaningalien: lol
hikukomoru: The quality of discussion has plummeted ever since I became active again
wellmeaningalien: people thinking they'll have an advantage or be more prepared than others because they invest in the S&P500 or the mag 7
hey1_1hey: Thats actually really solid advice
wellmeaningalien: yeah go away
hey1_1hey: I second this
st.sioux: i figure even if AGI doesn't come, current LLMs have already changed the way we work at my company at least
wellmeaningalien: true
wellmeaningalien: honestly
st.sioux: anyone who doesn't do it will just fall behind
wellmeaningalien: it's already clear ai that is capable of replacing economically valuable labor is around the corner
hey1_1hey: I dont think I will ever be writing emails at the very least
wellmeaningalien: so
sarik0497: But wow. Imagine if it actually plateaued. I wonder how much money these companies would have lost then.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ant-sad-stick-disappear-leaving-gif-3212333050776233083
st.sioux: it happens all the time
hey1_1hey: I weep a little for the private investors
hey1_1hey: How many hundreds of billions flushed own the toilet
wellmeaningalien: then id be excited because thatd mean there are new frontiers to explore in ai
st.sioux: we usually have to bail them out with our taxes if it gets too bad
st.sioux: lol
hey1_1hey: Yeah go and deatomise yourself in the back please
wellmeaningalien: a lot of people would be very very happy tho
sarik0497: Not with these types of money being thrown around. China is (I imagine) especially happy at throwing money at it.
hey1_1hey: Sounds fun. Would that actually be worth it in your eyes? Tax dollars going towards to devlop AGI. Atm its just private investors after all
st.sioux: meta is losing like 20 billion a year on VR alone
hey1_1hey: Why do you think they are more open to throw money at it? To get ahead of the west or smth?
hey1_1hey: Thats some adventure capatalist type money
wellmeaningalien: but they make great cheap headsets
sarik0497: Aye, but they were mostly alone in going that path. It's rare to see almost all the top tech companies throw so much money at something unless it's revolutionary.
wellmeaningalien: theyre betting on the future but i bet theyre gonna get outsold by some apple type company with the correct aura for consumers
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alejandrozarzuelo: Probably the AI will also need to dumb down the results so anyone will understand it lol
spicy.lemonade: It will draw figures with native image and comic strips
spicy.lemonade: And write 3blue1brown animations
fractalcomputer: That's what literally every researcher has to do.
spicy.lemonade: We might actually get 75% frontier math this year
spicy.lemonade: Wow
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes but I meant dumb down from God like to human, not from human who has spent years doing research to educated human
fractalcomputer: And prithee, Alejandro, what do you think godlike mathematics looks like?
i_like_over_9000_turtles: The new how is Amazon nova
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Haven't seen much about it yet
alejandrozarzuelo: Probably it will involve chaining so many results together, so many proofs one after the other that no human could ever come up with that, on the extreme case, so much that no human could ever learn all the results involved due to the sheer amount, let alone chaining them
st.sioux: if it discovers stuff that fast what is the point of even learning it
fractalcomputer: You're presenting mathematics from a very computationalist narrative.
st.sioux: like it will just keep going
spicy.lemonade: NO WALL
spicy.lemonade: GOOGLE DEEPMIND
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Google deepmind a new
Paper on their road to agi
spicy.lemonade: LFG
fractalcomputer: Why, a thousand monkeys with enough time and enough typewriters could produce such mathematics.
alejandrozarzuelo: The brain can only store so much information
There could be proofs that require more information than the brain could allocate completely, which would mena mo human would ever understand it
It's less computational angle, and more information theory angle, although I suppose that is a branch of computation
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: 2030
spicy.lemonade: Bruh
zonchao: https://x.com/midjourney/status/1907448337047208281? big
spicy.lemonade: This is the first time a research lab has written in a paper the exact date
alejandrozarzuelo: If you think this is what I was referring to, then you didn't understand my comment
fractalcomputer: Very evidently you think that mathematics is a case of stringing together maximally coherent statements.
spicy.lemonade: Oh shit
spicy.lemonade: 2029
spicy.lemonade: True agi by Demi’s definition 2030
fractalcomputer: Watch as absolutely nothing happens.
spicy.lemonade: https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/DeepMind.com/Blog/evaluating-potential-cybersecurity-threats-of-advanced-ai/An_Approach_to_Technical_AGI_Safety_Apr_2025.pdf
spicy.lemonade: Deepmind is more trustworthy in terms of research than openAI
spicy.lemonade: I believe them
alejandrozarzuelo: Mathematics does in fact require linking proofs one after the other
We start with some axioms, and we work from there
That's what mathematics is all about, coherent statements backed by previous ones
zonchao: if google can do it by 2030,openai agi 2028 confirmed
.wolfnacht: !remind me 1826 days.
Carl-bot#1536: Time is either in an inappropriate location, which must be either at the end or beginning of your input, or I just flat out did not understand what you meant. Sorry.
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alejandrozarzuelo: I love Paris
alejandrozarzuelo: Hmmmm
futurist_wizard: I remember taking that gif in paris it really is paris
wellmeaningalien: facts
wellmeaningalien: i was born there
wellmeaningalien: <a:droid_cry_squish:1229586954518007869>
alejandrozarzuelo: Damn the downgrade
alejandrozarzuelo: Paris is the best
wellmeaningalien: mèh
alejandrozarzuelo: People hate paris because they are envious
futurist_wizard: London is a bit better
futurist_wizard: But only a tad
alejandrozarzuelo: No lol, London is very chaotic, Paris is much more orderly
alejandrozarzuelo: Also, paris is now more pedestrian friendly
futurist_wizard: Brother you ain't got no clue dawg
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: How? I've recently been to both
rayanquitplayin: I fw Paris
alejandrozarzuelo: Paris is improving so much
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: It was great, now it's amazing
rayanquitplayin: London was cool too, I like overseas
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't, I have proof
alejandrozarzuelo: You are a continental yuro too?
futurist_wizard: Don't send your balls again
futurist_wizard: You did that last time
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: What
rayanquitplayin: I’m American
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah
rayanquitplayin: Ohio
futurist_wizard: If i could move to any country it would be Switzerland
rayanquitplayin: I went there in middle school, it was beauutiful
futurist_wizard: Its basically the best country in da world
alejandrozarzuelo: Booooooooring
futurist_wizard: Most scenic country ever, high living standards, no crime
alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities anywhere
rayanquitplayin: Clean air, clean water, financial capital
hikukomoru: That's a plus
alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities tho
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trojan09205: Whole foods stopped selling sage. How lame
.wolfnacht: Why these secret model names sound like pokemon moves?
Whats the next gonna be?
Leafblade? Solarbeam? Gigadrain? PhantomForce? Aquatail? Ironhead?
bob082957: https://vxtwitter.com/kritarthmittal/status/1918251714223739324#m
ai9708: did you try it yet?
ai9708: damn microsoft going off in the stock market
.wolfnacht: nope not yet.
zonchao: pamp it
gamerbath: why+
nsec: DuckDynasty
nsec: <a:CB_duckwalk:804823764004765786>
trojan09205: have u guys ever seen the bradley cooper and jlaw movie 'silver linings playbook'
trojan09205: its fire af
nsec: <:CB_stare_mike:760238008782815242>
nsec: no
nsec: its absolutely important u all vote in this serious poll
nsec: (https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1227814510429995049/1367940789849555107)
nsec: wow
nsec: 1 guy went right for it
nsec: zero hesitation
nsec: I respect it
gamerbath: easiest poll in my life
drewsni: Yeah wtf if anyone answers anything but “a worthy sacrifice” they should be banned immediately
aero447: You guys are joking right.
aero447: 💀
_3sphere: Is it guaranteed to go well
_3sphere: the poll singularity
drewsni: It’s the singularity, I’ll just get a new dick
aero447: ...
aero447: Guys you're all nuts.
gamerbath: <@201421883198013440> explain urself
_3sphere: Not after the Faustian bargain in question
aero447: I feel the *YOU* have to cut your dick off part is being ignored.
aero447: Like it doesn't fall off or magically vanish.
aero447: You, you personally have to do it.
aero447: 💀
drewsni: Ok
drewsni: I’ll do it
aero447: 💀
aero447: The pain?
gamerbath: i'm still down
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hey1_1hey: Didn't know cock fool was chill like that
brain4brain: I am always Brain4Brain
brain4brain: Kungfu panda
futurist_wizard: Im gonna cut my cock off and replace it with a clock
hey1_1hey: Can confirm. I have seen you in youtube comments on a unrealted minecraft video and your xitter account
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-turning-smiling-smile-laughing-gif-25966841
hey1_1hey: Thats a great idea. Then you can check the time without looking weird
brain4brain: Real, I totally don’t have a secret second internet identity
zonchao: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1911782243640754634 quasar
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: Singularity ❌
Quasar ✅
hikukomoru: Findind B4B outside of here must be crazy
hey1_1hey: Its the singualrity trust
brain4brain: Singularity ✅
Quasar ❌
zonchao: heard the google model is better than quasar though
brain4brain: I’m everywhere
hey1_1hey: B4B?
hikukomoru: Boob4Boob
zonchao: yea same
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Balls4Balls
brain4brain: It’s a thinking model <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
Quasar rawdog
gamerbath: yoooo
gamerbath: quasar!!!
brain4brain: Band4band
hey1_1hey: Finding "boob for boob" outside here must be crzy
hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/central-centralcee-centralcee-gif-central-cee-gif-central-gif-gif-17341157474231746607
hey1_1hey: Seems legit
zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1911752776537063778
gamerbath: wait it looks like I cropped the image in a bit of an akward place. it's supposed to say supermassive black *hole*
hey1_1hey: People of the internet, I want to know. Why do people act like this?
hikukomoru: You can never find me outside of here
Only on discord I am Komoru
spicy.lemonade: HOLY CRAP
hey1_1hey: Theres no way people actually feel like this
futurist_wizard:
brain4brain: Idk
hey1_1hey: Thats a good ass clip
hikukomoru: Good ass clip 🫦
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
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3ds0662: lets hope gpt-5 is not a dissappointment
3ds0662: can't wait to try o3 promode though
.histic: you're underwhelmed because you fed into the hype.
if you see how o3-mini & o1 performed, you'd realize it's a pretty noticeable gain.
benchmarks show this well.
it will continue like this, and full o4 or GPT-5 will be a delight.
unless you believe AGI will happen in 2025 or 2026, there's no reason to have high expectations.
ailoveyoom: My expectations were somewhere around 2.5 Pro
brain4brain:
brain4brain: MichMach predicted it exactly
ailoveyoom: Now 2.5 Flash Thinking when 😔
destrucules: Hopefully HLE turns out to be very g-loaded, but, so far, the scores we've seen on that benchmark don't seem to accurately capture the intelligence of the models scoring those scores, at least relative to one another. FrontierMath is just maths so it's a terrible way to gauge general intelligence.
a1c4p0ne: Who would you trust with your life to make decisions, o3 or 2.5 pro in squid games
sieventer: 2.5 Pro
destrucules: I want a new version of MMLU that isn't saturated. The best I have right now are MMLU-Pro and MMMLU. But those are nearly saturated
destrucules: MMLU-Pro is showing very strong saturation effects already. They kick in around a score of 80
destrucules: And I think GPQA Diamond may also be showing saturation effects in the 80s
a1c4p0ne: Why not o3 <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.histic: flash models are supposed to be non-reasoning models.
i wouldn't be surprised if it's somehow better than 4.5 on LiveBench & has better vibes too <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
2.0 pro was a non-reasoning model released 4 months ago and it has very close benchmarks to 4.5.
sieventer: I really have good experiences from 2.5 Pro, tbh
destrucules: MMMLU is very unlikely to saturate higher than MMLU itself, and frontier models score around 87, so we don't have much time left on that either
destrucules: Um... Where did you get that idea?
destrucules: That Flash models are supposed to be non reasoning models?
ailoveyoom: Just make a new one, MMMMLU
destrucules: So o3 mini and o4 mini aren't reasoning models?
destrucules: Grok 3 mini isn't a reasoning model?
.histic: speculation
sieventer: Mooooooo 🐮
destrucules: Gemini 2.0 Flash Thinking isn't a reasoning model?
destrucules: Fair enough. In that case I simply disagree
ailoveyoom: 🥛 😏
ailoveyoom: Afaik, 2.5 Flash will be like 2.5 Pro. It'll have reasoning, but won't be marked as a reasoning model.
a1c4p0ne: Does it give you the correct answer to most of your questions?
destrucules: Given that Gemini 2.5 Pro is just called Gemini 2.5 Pro, I suspect all of the 2.5 models are reasoning models, and none of them will be pure. Furthermore, I strongly suspect Gemini 2.5 Pro is just Gemini 2.0 Pro + RL, so I expect Gemini 2.5 Flash to be the same.
destrucules: Have you talked to it?
destrucules: It's smarter than you
a1c4p0ne: Yes
destrucules: It's smarter than me
sieventer: Yep
sieventer: I mean
destrucules: I think very few if any humans are smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro
sieventer: It gives very interesting insights, it's not *perfect* tho but, it's the best model I've talked to yet
a1c4p0ne: It only hallucinated when I asked it to give me a 7 characters vanity plate ideas
a1c4p0ne: It gave me 6 characters for a few
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brain4brain: Why are there no OpenAI release today
trey6033: They released twice this week already
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini high cant solve this
spicy.lemonade: neither can 2.5
spicy.lemonade: no model has been able to solve yet
metaldragon01: Did you try o3?
spicy.lemonade: ran out lol
spicy.lemonade: gonna ask on lmsys
.coldcall: I ran it through o3 and it was so close except it interpreted the x^2 as x^3
.coldcall: That is a fucked up 2 though, so no shade.
metaldragon01: So it's the vision model that's slightly off
spicy.lemonade: no
.coldcall:
spicy.lemonade: well i didnt try with o3 yet
.coldcall: Wat even
spicy.lemonade: but its pi^3/96
trojan09205: Did you try wolfram alpha 😏
spicy.lemonade: 3.5 gets close but doesnt get it even after multiple tries
spicy.lemonade: doesnt get it
spicy.lemonade: only calculates it computationaly
trojan09205: ??
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: it only gives me the reinman sum value
spicy.lemonade: 0.322...
spicy.lemonade: not
spicy.lemonade: pi^3/96
spicy.lemonade: it didnt solve it
trojan09205: Isnt the reimann sum a valid answer for a definite integral
spicy.lemonade: thats easy to calculate
spicy.lemonade: not the point of this
spicy.lemonade: you can calculate the hardest integrals with a python script to just add rectangles
spicy.lemonade: but you will never get the actual solution
spicy.lemonade: just approximation
trojan09205: Okay
trojan09205: Can you show your own proof or chain of thought
spicy.lemonade: of what
trojan09205: The answer
spicy.lemonade:
trojan09205: Are you thinking in terms or radians or something like that
spicy.lemonade: no solving this involves seeing the structure of the integral and recognizing what tricks to use and special functions
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nsec: serious replies onlu
nsec: ty
zonchao: <a:Peepo_Wave:832187545328287774>
nobodyisugly: <a:MumeiWave:1101433307343892490>
nobodyisugly: Hello, i was just invited to this server more or less random and am too lazy to look, what is this server about?
fractalcomputer: Zon, why did you invite this person?
nsec: sacrificing pets to Jesus
nsec: machine Jesus
zonchao: <a:droid_cry_squish:1212852710999859283>
fractalcomputer: More or less right.
hikukomoru: Gooning
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
fractalcomputer:
nobodyisugly: First impression of this server: <a:BatemanNice:1009821403245191228>
gamerbath: this server is about discussion and praising related to the upcoming machine god
nobodyisugly: Second impression is even better
fractalcomputer: I need more whiskey.
gamerbath: <@899357725161578567> do you know what AGI is?
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: People goon on meth? Dear God. I didn't know we were that depraved.
nobodyisugly: I have gooned wrong my entire life, brb
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> <@430269783112548362>
fractalcomputer: These two goon on meth?
hey1_1hey: Yeah, obv
himekokatagiri: My god
hey1_1hey: You don't?
himekokatagiri: Mushroom man scares me cuz he's gonna enslave us with his spores
fractalcomputer: I do not goon.
himekokatagiri: 😨
hikukomoru: They talk about that non-stop in off-topic
hey1_1hey: So you do meth
hey1_1hey: Good to know
hey1_1hey: Among other things
fractalcomputer: No, albeit I've been offered. The person in question rescinded his offer after considering the consequences; he was "afraid" of what I could accomplish under its influence.
hey1_1hey: You make it seem like he thinks its a wonder drug. "I don't think I can give you this... its too powerful! You'll be too productive you see"
fractalcomputer: Maybe the person offering and selling amphetamine aren't the smartest people, you see.
nobodyisugly: It isn't?
hey1_1hey: You had to pay aswell? Now thats a scam. I thought they were just offering it for free
hey1_1hey: Not to my knowledge, I can't speak from expereince
fractalcomputer: No, I didn't pay because I didn't purchase or take any.
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alejandrozarzuelo: I am just here for the ride, FOMO is probably the second thing keeping me alive
Gratitude is probably the firsr6
hikukomoru: I for one like being an individual
alejandrozarzuelo: They are not incompatible
himekokatagiri: me toooo
alejandrozarzuelo: People need to learn graph theory ffs
fractalcomputer: Gratitude is the thing keeping you alive? Not spite?
futurist_wizard: My guy avoids conflict like the plague
perish0801: If anyone enjoys living and doesn’t wanna die the next given moment they are grateful to be alive whether they say it out loud or not
hikukomoru: How is individualism compatible with hive mind
futurist_wizard: **Literally this**
trent_k: he'll be elected for his access to children
trent_k: and his willingness to work with sex offenders
trent_k: 😱
alejandrozarzuelo: Nope, I am just feel so privileged, my life is filled with so much pleasure and joy that I cannot but feel grateful for being alive now
trent_k: hell yes brother we need more of this type of posting
trent_k: life is so good
st.sioux: so what you mean when you say "being grateful of being alive" is really "not actively wanting to die or being suicidal"
himekokatagiri: I guess I'm happy that I ain't dead but my life could be better lol
trojan09205: Yeah but you also need to find a will to live even if life sucks in a hard labor camp
futurist_wizard: Imagine asking mrbeast what to do about contentious issues like immigration or trans rights. Guy would be like 'uhh well uhh i will do the right thing'
perish0801: If you’re enjoying life as a whole you probably appreciate the fact that you were born is basically what I mean
himekokatagiri: I hope ASI uplifts us
perish0801: What’s hard to understand
trent_k: everyone tag yourself. which one is your favorite
fractalcomputer: Merged Mind.
futurist_wizard: We will literally live in discord...
fractalcomputer: So true... AGI by 2027!!
trent_k: i think i like concensus consciousness best. seems the most viable for maintaining myself in the hive
st.sioux: because you seem to be conflating not being grateful with wanting to be dead, which seems too binary
perish0801: Consensus seems good
fractalcomputer: Why would you want to maintain yourself in a hive mind? I thought the whole point was absolving man of the original sin of individuality?
trent_k: nah i just wanna chill with my boys
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: why are you guys being weird
hikukomoru: needs less capitalization
perish0801: Being grateful by action vs being grateful by observation are different
trent_k: anyway, women won't be allowed to join the hive mind
futurist_wizard: We already are in a loosely tied hivemind
hikukomoru: Where do you think we are
fractalcomputer: Why don't you want to participate in a mental orgy?
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hikukomoru: It's funny
spicy.lemonade: because they were coping
avizuradnb: You have to keep the style consistent though for the next one
spicy.lemonade: shit
anathemaofmankind: I'm staring to feel empathy for these bozos
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: we should all start an AI hate rally
spicy.lemonade: gonna generate some obv AI art
spicy.lemonade: and ask if its ai
spicy.lemonade: cause I cant tell
st.sioux: if its bad then its real
st.sioux: 🤯
anathemaofmankind: Proof that AI is superior
drewsni: guys its been like 72 hours now and i havent stopped ghiblifying my whole world i need help
trent_k: Very cool
st.sioux: ghibli dale earnhardt
st.sioux: you can just keep retrying it usually works after like 10 seconds
drewsni:
drewsni:
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1905296867145154688
trent_k: Am I tripping or what's wrong with my ChatGPT
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpsons-end-of-the-world-end-is-near-gif-16593998
anathemaofmankind: This piece of balls
anathemaofmankind: I'm gonna kick him in the legs
anathemaofmankind: If the rate limits are too high I'm going to abuse my six gmail accounts
st.sioux: tell it to make an image
anathemaofmankind: Low rate limits rather
spicy.lemonade: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
otub: i do this too with free tier
spicy.lemonade: ive generated like 100 images
realelonmuskx: is there 4o image jailbreak i want anime tiddies
anathemaofmankind: Same
st.sioux: nvm
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1905296868495826966
anathemaofmankind: YESSSSS
anathemaofmankind: Give me interracial fascist cuckold photos
trent_k: Why the fuck is mine not working???????
anathemaofmankind: Stop using the ChatGPT app
anathemaofmankind: Bro
trent_k:
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retrerox: what you want to test?
wellmeaningalien: idk test anything
wellmeaningalien: ask it what are the most promising potential ai models coming soon as of this date
futurist_wizard: Llama 5
retrerox: *A very very long text*
spicy.lemonade: No humanities last exam?
wellmeaningalien: well?
futurist_wizard: Humanities last anime pfp
retrerox: Here's a shorter summary of the most promising AI models expected soon (as of April 2025):
Key Trends: Multimodal capabilities (text, image, audio), longer context windows, efficient deployment, tool integration, and improved reasoning are central.
Top Expected Models:
GPT-4.5 ('Orion'): Enhanced knowledge, emotional intelligence, and multimodality.
Grok 3: Focus on advanced reasoning and real-time data access.
Gemini 2.0: Real-time multimodal processing and action-taking capabilities.
DeepSeek R1: Reasoning-first model for science, coding, and math, with cost-efficiency.
Claude 3.7: Safe interactions with advanced coding and transparent reasoning.
Llama 3: Powerful and free open-source model for businesses.
Overarching Developments: More accessible AI, advanced AI agents, AI-generated training environments, central role of multimodal AI, emphasis on reasoning, efficient smaller models, near-infinite memory potential, and human-AI collaboration.
These models aim for greater power, versatility, accessibility, and real-world integration.
futurist_wizard: Its low iq
futurist_wizard: Agi over
futurist_wizard: Token predictor
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah also ask it "based on all available information, weigh the possibilities and make a theory/scennario on when the coming of widespread unemployment caused by the progress in artificial intelligence could come, considering the possible difficulties that may arrive"
wellmeaningalien: yeah its stupid idk why i wasted my time on this
retrerox: which one should i click on? 😂
wellmeaningalien: <a:skullemoj:1107004725980835991>
wellmeaningalien: DEEP RESEARCH BROOOOO
futurist_wizard: Deep research 🫦
st.sioux: dont yell at himbro
st.sioux: im gonna punch u
wellmeaningalien: mr bourgeois let us get a taste
wellmeaningalien: i ought to teach some sense into that boy
wellmeaningalien: come at me man
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cell-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-cell-games-arrive-gif-12626123329263234447
wellmeaningalien: look like this irl btw ↑
retrerox:
wellmeaningalien: cooool
wellmeaningalien: so this is actual deep research
wellmeaningalien: man you almost had us with that 2.0 flash fakeout this one better be worth it
retrerox: y
wellmeaningalien: cause
wellmeaningalien: this is 2.0 flash right?
retrerox: ye
darkstar0818: it doesn't yet report new in gemini app for deepresearch u sure its already rolled out
retrerox: i didnt changed b4
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: ok use the other question too i still wanna like benchmark it a little
retrerox: want me to do the same qeustion again?
darkstar0818: my guess is we gotta wait a bit
wellmeaningalien: see if it actuall has a grasp of whats goin on
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abundantliving_: He has some good ideas , but now it seems like most of his content is ai slop.
abundantliving_: He is fighting trolls and because of that he thinks everyone is a troll. Not able to take even light hearted comments .
seventales: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/868090714590965802/1359953441161740448/Tumblr_l_44821653196806.gif
sieventer: I won't ever empathize with furries, as much I try :·(
_cloudost:
abundantliving_: Catgirls are your favourite tho , is it?
sieventer: Not my favorite, but they're awesome. But mainly because they are anime chicks, my preference
spicy.lemonade: O4 mini is now confirmed
spicy.lemonade: The #1 competitive programmer
spicy.lemonade: Wow
memlaswaif: where
spicy.lemonade: Check Reddit you’ll see
spicy.lemonade: The cfo said it
memlaswaif: i deleted reddit
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has 100s of instances
spicy.lemonade: Maybe thousands
spicy.lemonade: Of the #1 competitive programmer
spicy.lemonade: Imagine what kind of algorithm research they’re doing
spicy.lemonade: And they get to check each others work
spicy.lemonade: Holy
spicy.lemonade: Insanity
memlaswaif: she said o3 mini <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
memlaswaif: https://tenor.com/view/webdivoalex-monkey-monkey-dress-cute-monkey-macaco-gif-14810823841472820567
memlaswaif: Why not real girls
spicy.lemonade: she mispoke
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini isnt #1
spicy.lemonade: o3 mini is 175th
.wolfnacht: catgirls are overhyped
memlaswaif: she is probably lying
memlaswaif: sam said they have like the 50th best programmer around the same timeframe
memlaswaif: don't set ureself up for fake hype
spicy.lemonade: what
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: why would she lie
spicy.lemonade: the model comes out netx week
memlaswaif: idk
spicy.lemonade: 💀
memlaswaif: its either one or the other
spicy.lemonade: its not hard to jump from 50 to # 1
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otub: [shoggoth](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1311426675149639720.webp?size=48&name=shoggoth)
aero447: <@750270494615404544>
aero447:
aero447: Come out.
ldj: But either way it's a quite arbitrary definition that doesn't define any singular point in time is what I mean.
ldj: Like the world likely won't look very different with an AI capable of doing 50% of jobs veresus 51% of jobs
ldj: the world will probably look basically identical in both scenarios don't you agree?
aero447: Finish reading the sentence.
aero447: Very important.
aero447: 🤣
okbut: It gets into trivial/political territory but I think there would also be a margin where societies have to pick up a socialist economic system because of the amount of takeover by the AI
Maybe that's a fair point to define it as such
aero447: You mean UBI.
okbut: Yes
zoermena: Scientific discovery is humanities priority for abundance. - Zor
aero447: TBH objectively there will never be such a thing as 50% automated.
aero447: It's not actually possible.
aero447: Fantasy land logic.
ldj: There was multiple sentences, and yes I read the whole thing.
aero447: I meant of your reply.
aero447: "Like the world likely won't look very different with an AI capable of doing 50% of jobs"
okbut: I don't know, it might be easy to say that all modern jobs are automated to a certain percent, the way that is gauged is a bit subjective though
For example, agriculture in the US
ldj: Do you mean like 100% socialist or communism?
Because the current US system as well as most first world countries already have socialist governance integrated, it just hasn't taken over 100% of the government.
aero447: No, you misunderstand, 50% is impossible.
okbut: I said "Socialist" as a means of assuming nobody knew what UBI is lol
aero447: Think about the types of work in an economy.
aero447: There is a HUGE skill overlap.
ldj: You can just say everybody gets large welfare paychecks, I think that communicates the point better for people that don't know what UBI is <:berk:750111476483752166>
aero447: If it can do 50% it can easily do 90%.
aero447: 50% in a modern economy covers too many areas.
okbut: I agree that there would be that exponential takeover, but it also further exacerbates my frustration with the common definition for AGI
aero447: It'd be like saying oh I can sprint but can't hop, jog or walk.
ldj: neither of those are percentages or gradients in your message
aero447: ???
aero447: Sprinting is faster jogging which itself is faster walking.
ldj: An analogy of sprinting to walking and jogging is not a comparable analogy in this conversation, since that's not represented as a gradient or percenatage like Job capabilities are here.
aero447: Hopping is incredibly similar.
aero447: It is.
aero447: Jobs have skill overlap.
ldj: So at what percent sprinting do you think hopping is achieved?
ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
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fuhulootogan: Is there a limit to AI progress?
.wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bByzpkBN39k
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a limit to progress too
alejandrozarzuelo: the global economy was roughly 10^16 economic units (approx 1 US cent) in 2000
alejandrozarzuelo: the global economy being very conservative multiplies by 10 every century
alejandrozarzuelo: the universe has 10^180 plank length voxels
alejandrozarzuelo: this means, that at current rates, at most, we could grow at our current rates for 18000 years
alejandrozarzuelo: thats barely anything
alejandrozarzuelo: growth will soon end
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/repligate/status/1910835003488887295?t=Fv-ZnQTpcmNV7Dsf5JYAeA&s=19
ailoveyoom: <@723564215574462474> <@378996537704841216>
ailoveyoom: 😔
ailoveyoom: Is this real 😭
fuhulootogan: Need to switch to a socialist system as the AI Revolution comes
st.sioux: youll probably just starve
fuhulootogan: Well, yeah
fuhulootogan: but it's desirable
trent_k:
fuhulootogan: Srinivasa Ramanujan;
okbut: Good point, because once "AGI" replaces all the (Software) jobs, there will be nothing left but mines and farm work
okbut:
trent_k: but sir, after the AGI revolution I was supposed to get a job as an FDVR anime waifu appraiser!
alejandrozarzuelo: wtf lol
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: why woud you have hoomans doing that
alejandrozarzuelo: so inefficient
okbut: I'm not a decel but every time this shit gets brought up my point is <a:talk2dawall:855515549245505536>
alejandrozarzuelo: nah unemployment will be total
alejandrozarzuelo: humans wont have the need to work
okbut: Just one more model bro
I swear bro this time it's it
.wolfnacht: i went to inzoi reviews to check and found another one
ailoveyoom: What does bro mean made mostly using AI 😭
ailoveyoom: They have pretty cool AI integrated features tbh
.wolfnacht: he even refunded bcz of that lmao
ailoveyoom: I wish other customization based games did the same thing
.wolfnacht: cod did that too which looked cool but people still got pissed off back then bcz of it
ailoveyoom: What AI features did they have?
abundantliving_: https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/1910694592615239833
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fractalcomputer: But no, you really do not unless you have an implicit idea of what intelligence is.
brain4brain: I don’t understand why would company gatekept AGI and not announce it
spicy.lemonade: they wouldnt
spicy.lemonade: unless its ssi
spicy.lemonade: who has their explicit reasons
aero447: 2035.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it%27s-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159
spicy.lemonade: 2032 at latest
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/cloud9crypto-twitter-digibyte-time-decentralized-gif-17753062
agezes: ey guys maybe not really related
agezes: but i need people to share a link for a game
agezes: its ''where winds meet''
agezes: https://tenor.com/view/china-chinese-where-winds-meet-wimmerrad-gif-26554145
agezes: its like an asian mithology rpg
agezes: can i share the link here?
agezes: basically the registration for the beta
agezes: if its not allowed ill deleted myself
agezes: no problem
sieventer: <#1136231504440201216>
sieventer: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
sieventer: I have to do Fractals job
agezes: okey
agezes: ill send it there
fractalcomputer: I don't get paid to be mean to people. I do it out of passion.
sieventer: <:wut:1136268236346884157> <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296>
stronak: Hi guys, i am beginner in this area. How do you decide which AI model to use for a specific task? Any good leaderboards or resources?
stronak: I'm working on a project and wondering how others go about choosing the most suitable AI model for their use case. There are so many options (LLMs, vision models, foundation models, etc.), and I’m not sure what to use.
Are there any reliable leaderboards, benchmarking platforms, or comparison resources that help evaluate models based on task type (e.g., preparing academic document, deep research, coding or any specific purposes)?
brain4brain: https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1913162382559322526?s=61
brain4brain: LMarena prompt-to-leaderboard, but you can just wing it with Gemini-2.5-pro or Claude-3.7-sonnet, there is basically no noticeable difference
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Made this with o4 mini and 2.5
spicy.lemonade: Text is very like messy
stronak: Thx, I am currently more interested in preparing a project proposal. Is there a model that works well for this type of issues? I am also looking for a model that can help me find suitable methods. In my tests, o3 and 2.5 pro did not do a bad job, but 2.5 pro was a bit plain in its method recommendations..
brain4brain: 2.5 pro and o3 is basically the best model right now, maybe try promoting it more
stronak: Thank you
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: oh shit
spicy.lemonade:
abundantliving_:
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fractalcomputer: You want to see intellectual masturbation? https://youtu.be/6HCz1tFqIcs?si=Z1A-BNqE4W9ihmQs
hey1_1hey: Thats just called a circle jerk, sir.
precariousworlds.: keep it sfw damn
st.sioux: all these fancy words mean nothing to me
hikukomoru: Extremely high iq gooning
ailoveyoom: Just think of it like foreign dirty talk
hikukomoru: Advanced gooning
ailoveyoom: You lack imagination
fractalcomputer: She étale-like on my Θ±ellNF-Hodge theater until I Frobenioid.
hey1_1hey: Of course thats the message that does it
hey1_1hey: We are all so childish
joaoluz19: <@749514473303179358>
fractalcomputer: No. The proposition has been posed previously and has been rejected each time.
precariousworlds.: singularitygonewild
joaoluz19: I mean we already have a tag
joaoluz19:
precariousworlds.: jannies took the waifus away from us
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kitagawa-goon-off-anime-girl-no-goon-off-gif-13772684617065959009
precariousworlds.: smh
hey1_1hey: I should create a compilation of all the wild shit we say on a day to day bassis
hey1_1hey: Mich mach would win and I dont think it would be close
precariousworlds.: enough to write entire sagas
sarik0497: Btw, who is the moderators of r/Singularity? I feel like the sub is turning more and more into r/Futurology 2.0
fractalcomputer: I am.
joaoluz19: Sheesh
hey1_1hey: I got a lot of messages to sift through
sarik0497: Well, what's up with all the AI hate <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
fractalcomputer: I dunno.
precariousworlds.: Eh it goes up and down
Occasionally annoying reddit commies invade from main page but usually doesnt last
futurist_wizard: In singularity?
hikukomoru: Ye
sarik0497: I don't mind if people call out fake hype or have their preferences, but some of the things are just downright AI hate.
hey1_1hey: The reddit is very luddie
precariousworlds.: biblical level epic
futurist_wizard: People cant dick suck ai enough in singularity idk what you are talkin bout
hikukomoru: This happens to every subreddit after it hits 100k members
And r/singularity is at 3 mil
sarik0497: The Reddit is very "If you don't live EXACTLY like us, you are a scumbag"
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801
precariousworlds.: you can usually tell when people havent used chatgpt since 2022 when they say shit like "its a bubble" or "just fancy autocorrect lol"
hikukomoru: Are we looking at the same subreddit
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ai9708: you improve your state day by day, month by month
metaldragon01: This acceleration is faster than even I expected
literallyvarane: Watch this thing be memes and get 87% on arc2
sarik0497: Are we back? What did I miss?
metaldragon01: Gemini 2.5 thinking today and likely astra announcement
clevermoniker: astra?
metaldragon01: The lymsys model this is suspected to be is sota
shirethedreamer: we already had an astra anouncment like 10 months ago
metaldragon01: Vision capabilities for gemini in real time
metaldragon01: Google wants to push pro subs
shirethedreamer: https://twitter.com/Google/status/1790433789811753460
may 2024
clevermoniker: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175> <:bingus:1136264105800515644> sounds cool <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
shirethedreamer: 💀 💀 💀
literallyvarane: Yall gotta chill it MIGHT happen today
metaldragon01: People have access already
literallyvarane: Remember when we all sat here thinking 4.5 was dropping last December?
metaldragon01: Seems like it's rolling out
literallyvarane: December 2023 lololol
literallyvarane: Not even 2024
clevermoniker: V3 2403 is 4.5 level <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
clevermoniker: i like it pretty much
clevermoniker: so far
shirethedreamer: or when we thought gpt4 image modality would be coming out
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jjk4au/i_got_access_to_project_astra_on_my_pixel_7_pro/
.wolfnacht: i need sillytavern preset and temps for V3 (new)
sarik0497: Sorry to butt into the discussion like this, but I also think it’s alright to have something to hope/cope with.
Some people are just born being overly nervous and scared, and if believing in something gives them peace, then go for it, I say.
I’ve myself considered cryo sleep if I end up getting too old and no LEV is in sight, because even if I die, I can die with the hope that I may be resurrected. If it doesn’t happen, then I won’t even know.
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: Finally i get to use this
metaldragon01: Pixel priority is usual for new google features as well
sarik0497: Hoping for something neat and not just another “model is 3.25% better” sthick
aero447: Guys.
aero447: China are cooking.
clevermoniker: i don't have those sadly
clevermoniker: i just use my custom prompt on OR
metaldragon01: It's been 3 months since 2.0
sarik0497: I know, but at the moment I feel like it’s only Deepseek, Anthrotopic, and OpenAI who are pushing the limits
sarik0497: Well, and Grok is trying
.wolfnacht: it's V3, so higher the temp = more schizo but kino it gets.
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jjk4h7/introducing_natural_walking_figure_ai/
It’s…something, I guess?
wellmeaningalien: btw nebula from gemini is the state of the art model on chat.lmsys. might or might not mean something
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metaldragon01: I don't think for the average person the sub is better than openai
darkstar0818: I agree, unless you are using the phone app.
darkstar0818: google hasn't done much at all with their web app.
okbut: Maybe I'm biased for versaility because Gemini Advanced offers so much more
darkstar0818: and the average user is asking questions either model can answer without effort.
okbut: That's after being a 1-year CGPT sub
okbut: This 4.1 might change it up
darkstar0818: I called my claude, sub. Ill keep oai for another month or so then cancel that too.
st.sioux: are u not keeping any sub?
darkstar0818: I was subbed to all 3.
metaldragon01: 4.1 upgrades it to roughly sonnet 3.5 to 3.7 level
darkstar0818: ill keep oai around if there are some things its better at.
metaldragon01: Without the rate limits
metaldragon01: It's a big deal
darkstar0818: I dont expect that to remain the case for too long though.
st.sioux: i used to have all 3 as well but claude is barely usable their usage limits are too low
darkstar0818: I used claude 100% for coding up until recently.
darkstar0818: OAI I used for general research.
.histic: t3.chat is $8 monthly and gives you access to some frontier models on different labs. like 1500/outputs per month for each model.
okbut: Restricting the use case of "the common person" to one that is picking a sub to buy, I figure their use cases will be for school work, but I can change my mind
In that case CGPT is great for Latex (lol) but Gemini is great for all its capabilities with Docs/Sheets/etc
okbut: I'm still upset Gemini cannot embed plots AFAIK
darkstar0818: my position on this will likely change within 30-60 days. But for right now OAI is fine for most people. I don't think most people will be using web based chat bots at all in 6 months.
zoermena: I was talking to people with Gemini advanced main advantage being that there are unlimited messages for 2.5 and 20 quieres for deep research daily
zoermena: What why 👀 on the last part
darkstar0818: phones.
metaldragon01: People still use web forums
okbut: Desktop apps > web apps
metaldragon01: Chatbot era going to be around a while
darkstar0818: or ya desktop apps.
zoermena: What do you expect to change then that we don’t have now?
.histic: 2.5 feels unlimited on aistudio
i don't think the subscripton is worth it imo
but i heard t's $9.99 for 2 months, pretty cheap.
metaldragon01: It's definitely not unlimited
darkstar0818: I don't think you and I are a good example of what 'most people' do.
darkstar0818: most people dont sit on a singularity discord or a computer all day
okbut: I have Gemini sub and I STILL use Studio more
darkstar0818: unlimited deep research queries 🙂
.histic: 2.5 pro on gemini.google.com output length is more limited i think
darkstar0818: there is a ui bug
darkstar0818: when it hits about 5000 lines it logs you out
darkstar0818: this isnt intended lol
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hikukomoru: Yummy
hikukomoru: Looks tasty
a1c4p0ne: I’ll get it for your birthday
futurist_wizard: 'turn this cat Indian'
futurist_wizard: Slightly racism
campionunbound: https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1916271574006563239
inhybridmoments._: I doubt it will be good though
inhybridmoments._: Is there any news about when Deepseek R2 will be out?
clevermoniker: no
ldj: no
ldj: They're aiming for it to be better than any currently existing open source model atleast
playstation.6: https://fixvx.com/adcock_brett/status/1916169437893562672
playstation.6: <@1104101103341162496>
st.sioux: ai winter
trent_k: has deep learning hit a wall
trent_k: 🤷♂️
technocake.:
himekokatagiri: oh hey
himekokatagiri: it's fractal
himekokatagiri: aka howard
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwu5K_eRN3E
playstation.6: its Norse man
technocake.: cat is called norse?
playstation.6: I remember it like that
a1c4p0ne: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/s/y3yjryNKJr
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/doodlestein/status/1915796841712468030?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
ldj:
spicy.lemonade: Who voting no😭
.histic: couldn't be me
spicy.lemonade: It’s yes bro
spicy.lemonade: You guys are blinded
spicy.lemonade: By 2.5 and other models like 3.7 thinking
professorheaven: Dude o3 is like an extra 20% max on stem benchmarks over o1, o1 is like an extra 50% on a bunch of stem benchmarks over original 4
professorheaven: Original 4 couldn’t even crack 10% on AIME
professorheaven: o1 got 75%
spicy.lemonade: We can look at other benchmarks as well though
spicy.lemonade: Like Long context understanding
spicy.lemonade: Arc agi
spicy.lemonade: Frontier math
spicy.lemonade: Benchmarks we couldn’t even crack
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alejandrozarzuelo: university is going to very soon be automated away since in no time AIs will be able to do the entire curriculum in a day
alejandrozarzuelo: not yet
alejandrozarzuelo: but soon
alejandrozarzuelo: everyone is going to be automated
alejandrozarzuelo: so its no wonder
alejandrozarzuelo: the usefulness of university will be in the challenge you put into it
alejandrozarzuelo: like a gym
alejandrozarzuelo: you go because you want a good challenge
alejandrozarzuelo: not because you want to do anything useful
memlaswaif: People going to university r going to decrease drastically
fractalcomputer: So you cheat on a test.
alejandrozarzuelo: cheating is part of the learning experience, also as I said it doesnt really help you much
spicy.lemonade: Im prepared mentally for the world where I dont get a job
spicy.lemonade: out of uni
alejandrozarzuelo: same
memlaswaif: what r u studying?
spicy.lemonade: cs&pure maths
alejandrozarzuelo: spicy studies CS
spicy.lemonade: double major kinda useless now tho
spicy.lemonade: might just do cs
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: ah yeah he is also a double major like me (although my program is 33% longer than his)
spicy.lemonade: im just in college to be near the cool people
spicy.lemonade: and interesting stuff
spicy.lemonade: atp
memlaswaif: my condolences
alejandrozarzuelo: honestly a very valid reason
alejandrozarzuelo: networking is very useful
memlaswaif: how many cool people did u meet <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
spicy.lemonade: francois chollet
spicy.lemonade: however you say
spicy.lemonade: arc agi dude
spicy.lemonade: lady who invented crispr
spicy.lemonade: and won nobel prize
spicy.lemonade: lmarena people
alejandrozarzuelo: to be completely honest, I think that the time between "university is useless, go there only to do networking and have a challenge" and "we all join the hivemind" will be short
alejandrozarzuelo: a decade tops
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade: like i was watching peoples college decisions this year
alejandrozarzuelo: as in, the time between AGI and god-like ASI
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hey1_1hey: Dw ill fill you in
hikukomoru: Data entry still exists?
zoermena: I’ll still watch it I think or at least hear it
hikukomoru: I read this wrongly
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: greg brockman?
spicy.lemonade: yeah this is gonna be big
hey1_1hey: My autism food tastes better than usual
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey
hey1_1hey: This must be AGIs doing
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-4079785775268000209
professorheaven: i'm more excited for o3 pro
spicy.lemonade: bruh
professorheaven: o3 pro should be above o4 mini as well
hey1_1hey: 10 more mins until AGI
zoermena: 10 MINUTES <a:milchickdance:1346221947205324894>
spicy.lemonade: im not excited for synthesis
spicy.lemonade: i dont like the pro models
spicy.lemonade: feels like a bruteforce computational hack than architectural progress
professorheaven: that's a fair critique honestly
abundantliving_: its live - just not started
professorheaven: The ARC test founder considers o3 to be a prototype AGI, he said that on a podcast discussing ARC-2
spicy.lemonade: 4chan taken down before agi had the xchance to witness it<:redemption:1136265386984222771>
hikukomoru: I still can't believe "Chicken Jockey" were the last words said on 4chan before it died lol
hikukomoru:
.0xunkn0wn: LETS GIO
.0xunkn0wn: LETS GO
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey!
.0xunkn0wn:
abundantliving_: 5 minutes
hikukomoru: Don't get your hopes up
hey1_1hey: Holy moly I thought I missed it
futurist_wizard: 5 minutes until chicken jockey
hikukomoru: AGI announced and you just missed it bruh
hey1_1hey: Are you a brain rot enjoyer these days?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-4079785775268000209
.0xunkn0wn: 5 minutes until skibidi jockey
spicy.lemonade: me?
.0xunkn0wn: idk i had to 😭
spicy.lemonade: agi is talking to me guys
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