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a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zoermena: Why did it get it wrong 😭
zoermena: Is it a tokenization problem
a1c4p0ne:
hikukomoru: Why does it get it wrong??
spicy.lemonade: cursor adds 10x performance boost on swe
spicy.lemonade: for some odd reason
.histic: overtraining on the classic riddle:
A father and son are in a car crash, the father dies, and the son is rushed to the hospital. The surgeon says, 'I can't operate, that boy is my son,' who is the surgeon?"
the answer is the surgeon is the boy's mother. it uses this answer and applies it to the altered one.
LLMs are parrots for this question & ignore the obvious answer when it's changed. but if you give it a nudge, it can solve it correctly. oddly, 2.5 pro answers the altered riddle like 70% of the time, which is pretty good.
a1c4p0ne: overthinking
futurist_wizard: Lmao
.wolfnacht: morning, is AI winter back ?
theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/FUq9qRwrDrI?si=7ikyIzj0FzvVF52O
hikukomoru: Yeah, AGI cancelled
.wolfnacht: sad, billions must go back to cuckwaging their life away
.histic: i notice the longer o3 thinks, the better the results.
so now i'm adding "think long and hard" in every prompt lol
i wish OpenAI had an option to dictate how long the model thinks for.
.wolfnacht: instead or long and hard, maybe give it x steps.
.wolfnacht: "think in 20 steps"
.wolfnacht: but that usually breaks in every model, bcz thinking won't follow that and model would write those steps in its reponse
.wolfnacht: but fun to try in o3
.wolfnacht: gemini managed to do that, but there's a hard limit of 10k thinking tokens per one response.
.histic: 😭 i can't get consistent results when i prompt it to "think long and hard" or "think in 20 steps".
like sometimes it thinks for longer & sometimes it doesn't. hard to control, but i do see a pattern where if it does think for longer, it gets closer to the answer or gets the answer correct.
zoermena: Sad!
ldj:
.wolfnacht: cot prompt in custom instructions is the way then, but idk if shitty gpt actually gives users a way to add their own sys prompts
zoermena: You can add custom instructions
a1c4p0ne: + memory
.histic:
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> Midjourney V7 is now out:
ldj: and has something now called draft mode
ldj: https://vimeo.com/1072397009
gamerbath: I thought v7 released like a week ago?
metaldragon01: So late on v7 lol
ldj: yes it did lol
ldj: but I missed it
ldj: so I'm guessing maybe some of you missed it as well
ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: then again I was kinda on vacation in SF
brain4brain: Half of Twitter is saying o3 is highly disappointing, while the other half is saying this is literally AGI
ldj: let me guess, the people saying it's highly dissapointing are pointing to use-cases that almost have nothing to do with real-world usefulness, such as strawberry spelling tests?
brain4brain: I think they are referencing PaperBench and other benchmarks where o3 fall shorts of other models in the system card
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himekokatagiri: the starter pack
perish0801: It’s the only one I’ve ever watched
himekokatagiri: well you're shit outta luck
himekokatagiri: there aren't any
himekokatagiri: haruhi is haruhi
perish0801: Oh I’ve watched initial d
himekokatagiri: nothing else is haruhi
technocake.: Is perish the new friendly neighbourhood jgudy or am i misinterpreting
perish0801: Dang
fractalcomputer: Obviously, because I have a life.
himekokatagiri: Not yet!
himekokatagiri: But you will have a life
perish0801: Friendly neighbourhood what
himekokatagiri: a life of anime
trojan09205: A guy who used to be here
fractalcomputer: They're saying that you remind them of a former user of ours.
perish0801: Ohhhh
himekokatagiri: perish
himekokatagiri: did you see the original gone in 60 seconds
trojan09205: Whyd he leave btw
trojan09205: We was friends
perish0801: The movie? Hell yeah
perish0801: I mean the one with that famous actor
perish0801: The car in my profile picture
hikukomoru: The ending song is a banger
trojan09205: He was only the second somalian i knew
himekokatagiri: that's the remake
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/putin-laughing-lolol-gif-21411130
himekokatagiri: I'm talking about the 70s movie
perish0801: Oh what’s the original
perish0801: I don’t even remember what happened
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae2Uue6ZFdA
perish0801: Oh there’s a 70s original?
perish0801: Oh no way
perish0801: Gonna watch that
himekokatagiri: 70s car movies had this philosophy on them idk
himekokatagiri: probably copying easy rider
himekokatagiri: vanishing point also like that
himekokatagiri: two lane blacktop
himekokatagiri: hell even american graffiti
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joaoluz19: I don't remember the chapter in the book now, but it was along the lines of comparing the operations of the human brain with those we have artificially.
spacetimetsunami: Terrifying, tbh.
joaoluz19: This is interesting too, who calculated this?
wellmeaningalien: well if you do compare the current capabilities of AI models to our capabilities and their training compute, it does all seem to line up at around 10^29 flops perhaps
joaoluz19: So the question I was asking was assuming we had the most efficient algorithm possible, unless we can actually formally demonstrate that deep learning and its derivatives are the most efficient algorithm possible
wellmeaningalien: for the compute i'm just taking <@312370916820779040>'s word for it who does a shit ton of analysis on this kind of stuff, and also inspired by this new article co written by people who have some amount of expertise in the domain including an ai researcher whose predictions in 2021 lined up with quite a lot of things happening right now https://ai-2027.com/
spacetimetsunami: I think calculating it will soon be difficult to do due to how quickly AI will become more efficient. As soon as it’s working on itself, it might soar past the computational efficiency of even the human brain rather quickly.
joaoluz19: Right, and all these predictions are based on deep learning? Not questioning that the estimates are good, just that my question is more DL-independent
spacetimetsunami: https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion
this will compliment what you pasted very nicely.
joaoluz19: But it's a great read too, I've already accumulated several lol
spacetimetsunami: For more context into visualizing how quickly this could realize
wellmeaningalien: i mean not all algorithms are created equal that is sure. you can train any type of model you want but so far transformer based models still seem to have the best bang for buck, even though you can still juice some pretty good performance off of other architectures.
wellmeaningalien: nice.
darkstar0818: its not easy to compare current ai models with humans. Humans perform a hundred inferences/trains per second, with small input/output tokens per inference.
joaoluz19: This was recommended to me today when I was asking about AGI too
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. It is a sobering read.
spacetimetsunami: I think we will have super intelligence by 2030.
spacetimetsunami: I didn’t think this a month ago.
wellmeaningalien: we're talking about pre-training mostly here so Deep learning.
spacetimetsunami: I’m afraid it is far too fast
joaoluz19: So, the question of Transformer being the best algorithm we have has more to do with mere trial and error of millions of researchers or a formal calculation, it was the latter that I was looking for... I know it's not something that simple to model but that's the idea.
joaoluz19: Of course you could also argue that trial and error statistically converges to the best possible solution.
wellmeaningalien: so basically are you trying to count the trial and error as a type of algorithm? then i couldnt say quite a lot
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
joaoluz19: No, the point is to demonstrate mathematically that LLMs are the most efficient way and that other architectures would not have the chance to absurdly increase production capacity with the same amount of hardware.
joaoluz19: I'm not a Lecunian in the sense of saying that LLMs can't become AGI, the question has more to do with supposing we find an algorithm more efficient than LLMs, what would still be the minimum computation required for inference, would a NASA Apollo mission PC run it? Should it be a useful quantum computer with many quibits? Would it run on a smartphone?
wellmeaningalien: well really the biggest thing that is causing this emergence of capabilities in LLMs is the amount of data being fed into the model and the computation required for the attention process, which LLMs provide quite an open avenue for squeezing performance out of the model, but i think emergent capabilities like this can emerge out of any time of algorithm, simply that LLMs have proven so practical so far since the combination of deep learning with reinforcement learning on natural language tasks makes it naturally adept at solving for the kind of thinking that natural language processing necessitates. however i wouldn't discount the idea that some other type of algorithm couldn't possibly take its helm.
wellmeaningalien: and of course the natural low dimensional nature of text input output compared to other types of modalities in itself plays into the complexity of the model and thus the compute required
joaoluz19: The question is not even which model is the most efficient, but its compression limit, for example... it seems absurd that we can run an AGI on an ENIAC, doesn't it? But where are the formal calculations for this?
darkstar0818: We don't even have a formal definition for AGI. If your main concern is having a AGI at math or code, then its clear a much much smaller model will suffice.
darkstar0818: Its likely that humans are not even 'general' in the true meaning of the term.
joaoluz19: But the explanation for the success of LLMs is also very well put.
darkstar0818: It also seems pretty obvious that some of what humans are optimized for could be discarded if your main concern was simply replacing human labor.
joaoluz19: Evidently we can stipulate minimum amounts necessary for an AGI, at least eliminating the "absurd" ones, for example, could an AGI be compressed with just 2 flops?
darkstar0818: Define AGI.
joaoluz19: We have a more or less idea of what it is, regardless of mine or yours, it seems absurd to do what I said, right?
darkstar0818: also you can run any model with an arbitrarily low flops, with enough runtime.
joaoluz19: But ok, the ability of an artificial entity to do any job a human being can do
darkstar0818: in the same or less time?
darkstar0818: both in duration and latency?
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hikukomoru: Lain 🤯
maintcrew:
st.sioux:
st.sioux: i'll try
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/JasonBotterill3/status/1904790398205386790
_cloudost: Remember a month ago everyone here was pro CCP/marxism? Love how the vibe of this server changed so fast for the good
spicy.lemonade: I’m tired of the rage bait from artistshate
hikukomoru: Don’t worry boo I’m still pro CCP
st.sioux: <@505313122802728972> was glazing ccp like 10 minutes before native 4o image gen
spicy.lemonade: Blocking notis
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/kb24x7/status/1904942247092895843
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474
_cloudost: 👁️
maintcrew: why did u have notifs from artisthate enabled what
spicy.lemonade: Not from the sub
spicy.lemonade: From users
hikukomoru: Masochist 🥵 🥵
spicy.lemonade: lol
ailoveyoom: He engaged with people there
archon.e: I can’t wait to use 4o to make architecture diagrams of my code
.histic: a new era
maintcrew: he really thought he did something 💀
st.sioux: idk who this is or if its accurate honestly
maintcrew: nice
maintcrew: u dont know light?
maintcrew: ngmi
gamerbath: that's fully accurate
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭
.histic: fuck that's good
.histic: pfp material
ailoveyoom: Would OAI have released this if Gemmy didn't do it first 🥺
ailoveyoom: Taking one for the team 😤
maintcrew: no
.histic: the pen is in a weird positions tho 💀
archon.e: The texture in these generated images man!
wellmeaningalien: it is very accurate
archon.e: I’m totally digging it. What’s the resolution of these images?
st.sioux: it varies
wellmeaningalien: 1024 for 1:1
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a1c4p0ne: Grok thinking got it
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: i dont mean thinking
brain4brain: It seems like it can be inferred from the last two facts alone and verified, but could you explain the first three? Since the doctor and the teacher are talking to each other, and bob is not the teacher, and Carol is remaining silent and not talking to anyone which means it’s Alice and bob talking to each other
spicy.lemonade: i mean turning it into lean
spicy.lemonade: a mathematical statement
spicy.lemonade: then proving its correct
spicy.lemonade: gemini gets it right aswell
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lean
spicy.lemonade: you can turn all math into lean code
spicy.lemonade: any proof can be verified as true or false
spicy.lemonade: so lets say gpt 6 discovers reiman hypothesis proof
spicy.lemonade: if it turns it to lean code
spicy.lemonade: and it runs
spicy.lemonade: its correct answer
spicy.lemonade: the errors mean theres logical inconsistencies
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 gets this easy
spicy.lemonade: but cant turn into lean
brain4brain: Clue 1 and 3 seems quite contradictory
spicy.lemonade: arent
spicy.lemonade: just because doctor is talkint to teacher
spicy.lemonade: doesnt mean teacher is talking
brain4brain: Hm, I see
spicy.lemonade: talking to
spicy.lemonade: not with
retrerox: Your ass vs your ass in jail
spicy.lemonade: o3 to o4 will be same as o1 to o3
brain4brain: GPT-4.1
GPT-4.1-nano
GPT-4.1-mini
https://x.com/btibor91/status/1910632880197558713?s=61
spicy.lemonade: i hope quasar alpha is mini
_cloudost: OPENAI should replace 4o with 4.1
_cloudost: 4.1o when?
retrerox: so, is over or we are back?
alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you say this
hey1_1hey: Cloudo just hates deepseek because its from China and he hates China lmao
abundantliving_: https://x.com/allhands_ai/status/1910383879162114261
_cloudost: I don't WANT dictactorship COUNTRIES to WIN the AI race, WE can ONLY hope THAT these COUNTRIES lose THE ai RACE so WE won't HAVE a DARK future WHERE we ARE under watch all the time BY the COMMUNIST governments
_cloudost:
_cloudost: someone with Veo 2 access says VEO CAN generate videos of decapitation..
_cloudost: Veo 2 was trained on terrorist propaganda...
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destrucules: Or what's his face who made RWKV. He's not a laughing stock
ldj: Speaking of rwkv, they have a new model up.
ldj: Apparently their 1B is competing with Qwen-3 1B
ldj: Here
ldj: https://huggingface.co/spaces/RWKV-Red-Team/RWKV-LatestSpace
professorheaven: It’s funny because Yan LeCun from 3 years ago would’ve laughed in your face if you told him LLMs could ace math competitions one day and yet here we are
professorheaven: LLMs are already doing things he himself never thought was possible
ldj: Nous RL framework is now open sourced
ldj: https://github.com/NousResearch/Atropos
joaoluz19: Considering he is a chief engineer of a trillion dollar company then yes
ldj: Chief scientist*
ldj: and he's not involved much at all on Llama
ldj: Ilya sutskever was the chief scientist of OpenAI and also wasn't involved much in GPT-4
fractalcomputer: I do not see the connection.
joaoluz19: Right, but he was involved in the reasoning models. I mean, if the individual is not working in the current models then he must show something different whatever it is.
destrucules: Wait really? I thought he was very involved with GPT-4
ldj: Yann has already been working on other stuff.
ldj: He's already released multiple papers on JEPA, as well as worked on multiple papers involving agentic training for LLMs
joaoluz19: He has multi-billion dollar resources: data centers, a vast pool of global talent to work with, and lots of data. If he can't show concrete results, he should start rethinking the creation of a new paradigm or valuing LLMs more, considering that they already have a non-trivial utility.
ldj: and shown some SOTA results already on models understanding motion physics from unsupervised video learning
joaoluz19: The question would be to show more how JEPA surpasses LLM's or adds something new. It may just be my misinformation but I haven't seen that much.
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1917305406407467398 lmao
ailoveyoom: Is this guy just an XAI shill <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
fractalcomputer: This almost feels like you are arguing totally past whatever point the guy might have had.
ailoveyoom: You know you've made it as a lab when you start getting fanboys 💪😎 (or when you get haters? 🤔)
ailoveyoom: The one true benchmark
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-cat-cat-stare-rigby-tongue-gif-12118654088387148905
ldj: Has some involvement, but wasn't leading the arch team or optimization team or an overall lead.
only listed as an "additional contributor" alongside Sam Altman, he wasn't an overall lead for the project, nor did he lead any of the architecture or optimization teams.
Jakub Pachocki was the overall lead in charge of GPT-4, and also worked as one of the optimization leads.
John schulmann is prob the OpenAI cofounder who was most involved in GPT-4, he was the lead for RL on GPT-4.
fractalcomputer: I mean, sure, you might call him a nincompoop for not showcasing the strength of alternative architectures and so on -- but that's still just something on your end. It does not refute what he has to say.
sarik0497: To be fair, it takes time to develop something new from scratch like the I-JEPA.
For instance, despite Google releasing Gemini 2.5 Pro recently, I'm sure Demis Hassabis is more focused working on other projects like the Genie 2, which also is still a WIP.
777agical: https://x.com/primeintellect/status/1917295731532259628
destrucules: Unrelated, what's your take on Qwen3, and what models would you say are the closest analogs in capabilities to each size they released?
ldj: They already showed better training efficiency for image understanding compared to vision transformers.
as well as better physics understanding from unsupervised video training
sarik0497: ^ Also worth noting is that LeCun is likely not interested in the whole "AI race" that's happening right now with almost everyone rushing to get the newest and best model out asap. If it takes 1 month to finish, 1 year, or 10, then he'll likely let it take that long before throwing it out on the market.
joaoluz19: In fact, I did not explicitly show the lack of representation of the world in AI models (JEPA). What we are all discussing here: algorithmic efficiency. This is not a debate where you present points and the person responds and so on. He has the means to show that his system works.
777agical: I can’t wait for Lecun to drop AGI on LinkedIn
joaoluz19: Good to know, really. I'd like to see more of this kind of news.
joaoluz19: https://www.newsweek.com/ai-impact-interview-yann-lecun-llm-limitations-analysis-2054255
ldj: here are some papers that released on that in just the past few months:
ldj: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.11831v1
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perish0801: It’s like replaying a mission in a game
perish0801: Reloading a save file
alejandrozarzuelo: in a simulation that has chaothic structure like our universe, the only way to do time travel is to delete data, so it wouldnt be time travel more like eliminating time and starting anew
alejandrozarzuelo: are you familiar with the concept of a Visual Novel?
alejandrozarzuelo: that
perish0801: That’s according to your physics. There might be things that we as humans aren’t capable of understanding
perish0801: Cuz we’re too dumb
perish0801: So we can’t say anything for 100%
alejandrozarzuelo: this is something fundamental to the universe and chaotic simulations
perish0801: Your understanding of the universe and chaotic simulations is flawed and lacking
perish0801: ASI will point out why
alejandrozarzuelo: you can "simulate" time travel, i am sure that we can recreate such a faithful representation of the past that we could get ourselves immersed on it in such a way that it would be indistinguishable from the real pasr
alejandrozarzuelo: but this is just another simulation
alejandrozarzuelo: basically an advanced videogame
alejandrozarzuelo: there are some things we dont know that may be possible, Faster than Light travel, antienergy... time travel is simply an oxymoron, its like saying a blue yellow
perish0801: But what I’m saying is there might be something that allows it that our human brain cannot comprehend
perish0801: This would be great enough
alejandrozarzuelo: sure that would be nice, I always wanted to go on a holiday in ancient rome
alejandrozarzuelo: but it would be leisure, a simulation, a fantasy, a very good one i would greatly appreciate
alejandrozarzuelo: but not time travel in earnest
perish0801: Yeah but that would be fucking awesome
perish0801: I’ve always wanted something like google earth where you can go choose the year,date and time and zoom in on anywhere and just hit play
perish0801: See what actually happened
alejandrozarzuelo: remember that all the people on that simulation, as time accurate as they may be, wouldnt be the exact same people that roamed the Campus Martius on 120AD
alejandrozarzuelo: not as if it matters to the user as we dont even know their real names, but still
perish0801: What if we can just disappear and appear back then
perish0801: With the same people
alejandrozarzuelo: not possible
perish0801: Yeah for the entertainment part
perish0801: Could be tho
alejandrozarzuelo: its simply not possible
perish0801: Something with wormholes different dimensions and all that
perish0801: According to your human brain you think that
perish0801: There might be something that can make it happen
alejandrozarzuelo: https://youtu.be/3cunKaj7ZxA?si=oPMt53aM5wQCWRXt
perish0801: Hopefully we find out soon
perish0801: Nahh it is
alejandrozarzuelo: thats just not what time travel means
alejandrozarzuelo: look, traveling to another dimension that is nearly exactly the same as ours but 2000 years behind, is not time travelling
perish0801: Oh yeah I know I didn’t mean that
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.histic: damn, the safetycells have lost so hard in the last twelve months.
.histic: there's no absolute way this happens.
competition is too fierce.
there is no moat.
.histic: the only way this happens if they have a secret sauce no one can replicate easily.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Agi then?
.histic: i feel like they'd have trillions in revenue if they had AGI.
.histic: just make thousands of instances
spicy.lemonade: So no agi by 2030 or is Sam just speculating
spicy.lemonade: An agent that makes that much would have to be agi
.histic: wait, i just realized what that implied lol
.histic:
.histic: all roads lead to rome
.histic: 2028 and onwards will be where things get interesting
.histic: going to ask Gemini's Deep Research the same question
spicy.lemonade: *2027
.histic: OpenAI's Deep Research and Gemini's Deep Research both said 2028.
interesting...
ailoveyoom: It's cause they're gon be monetizing free users <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: i think people would actually watch a couple of ads to get some outputs for o3 while being a free user.
.histic: maybe it's big brain
playstation.6: *2026
ailoveyoom: This is why I settle on Google mostly, they already have all my data anyway 😇
ailoveyoom: No loss there
destrucules: Easy to forget how far we've come. o4 mini (high) vs the model market exactly 12 months ago
destrucules: Try to remember what April 2024 felt like. Fr
spicy.lemonade: 4o just dropped and that was it
destrucules: Nope
destrucules: 4o was May
spicy.lemonade: Oh yeah
spicy.lemonade: Sora dropped and we had Q* leaks. Only hype that was there
destrucules: April 2024, we didn't have Gemini 1.5 Pro yet. No Flash neither. Gemini 1.0 Ultra was their flagship. Llama 3 just dropped, along with Claude 3, and OpenAI's flagship was GPT-4 Turbo. Mistral's flagship was Mistral-large, and people were still hyped about Mistral-8x7B
destrucules: The best Gemma was Gemma 7B, which was Mistral-7B tier
destrucules: Alibaba had just released Qwen1.5
destrucules: We were debating whether Llama 3 70B Instruct was better or worse than Claude 3 Sonnet
destrucules: This was 12 months ago
spicy.lemonade: Tf going on with mmlu
spicy.lemonade: Grew slowly
destrucules: It scales slow yeah
destrucules: But we're saturating it now
spicy.lemonade: Next year next generation of benchmarks will be saturated
spicy.lemonade: Like humanities last exam and enigma bench
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wellmeaningalien: i'd assume you would've told her about it
_cloudost:
wellmeaningalien: i mean personally i havent really bothered to tell anyone in real life about the singularity because i know theyd just take me for a schizo
destrucules: Validate her. Tell her you feel the same way. Commiserate
wellmeaningalien: it has its limits
trent_k: She knew about it a bit but we never got deep into it before recently. She doesn't dislike tech but just doesn't care about it that much and so it doesn't come up often lol
_cloudost: Ai always sucks at making complex stuff, doubt it will be great at making a complex scene
destrucules: And then in two years they'll take you for a prophet
trent_k: Pretty much what I did. I tried to present an optimistic view of the post singularity world but was also honest that I don't really know how it'll turn out and it might be bad
wellmeaningalien: thats interesting. what does she work in?
wellmeaningalien: if she does at all lol
.wolfnacht: someone pin this msg...and we'll get back on this around 2028.
destrucules: It sounds like she was less "oh no it could go wrong" and more "even if it goes well, this makes me feel useless, like I've wasted my whole life"
realelonmuskx: yall down diabolically this friday night
wellmeaningalien: honestly i kinda get her sentiments because i'd really have liked to worked in this ai stuff and contribute to it somewhat but that's what i get for being born too late to have a PHD
trent_k: I think the way you explain it makes all the difference. I think the reason Kurzweil isn't more well known is because it always ends with "AND THEN NANOMACHINES WILL MAKE YOU A GOLDEN THRONE OUT OF THIN AIR" and is thus easily written off even if his steps for how we get there are all reasonable-ish
wellmeaningalien: it wont really matter after AI makes all intellectual work irrelevant, even that of AI researchers
wellmeaningalien: lmao yeah 😭 😭
wellmeaningalien: the thing is that like
futurist_wizard: These examples don't even state anything about self preservation qualities and its a far cry, it's always these boring ass unconvincing examples where the AI is trying to complete a goal while being told its going to be shutdown or the goal is unachievable within conventional means and the only way to achieve completion is to be deceptive or lie
wellmeaningalien: those people are missing the dozens of steps of explanations and progress that took up from computer to god machine
futurist_wizard: Its unconvincing
wellmeaningalien: but if you connect all the dots together, it's like holy shit
futurist_wizard: As even malicious behaviours
wellmeaningalien: but trying to connect all those dots in someone's brain by overloading them with information?
futurist_wizard: But definitely not for self preservation
wellmeaningalien: i've managed to teach some of my friends online about AI by slowly warming them up to some ideas about the history of ai progress and economical and societal impacts and then getting into AGI and then ASI scenarios
wellmeaningalien: but good luck sitting anyone down irl to explain that
trent_k: Honestly I kinda just gloss over most of the god machine stuff whenever I explain it
futurist_wizard: My friends are spooked by ai
futurist_wizard: But im good at convincing people so one has came around
wellmeaningalien: yeah of course good luck getting someone to not believe you're crazy as fuck if you jump straight to that
trent_k: Think of it this way - what would you have predicted 2025 would look like in 2007? Whatever your prediction is it would've likely been pretty far off
wellmeaningalien: but slowly you can warm people up to the idea, even if they're not fuly convinced
czdct: the singularity grooming 💔 😔
trent_k: Focusing on the details is getting lost in the weeds
wellmeaningalien: 👅
wellmeaningalien: exactly lol
wellmeaningalien: and like would anyone in 1980 have predicted those shitty microcomputers would ever evolve into the incredible omni purpose machine and eventually the algorithms and neural networks we have developed today
wellmeaningalien: and would anyone before then even fathomed electrical brains, and so on...
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otub: this shows a correct answer with the right prompting but it shouldn’t be necessary
.wolfnacht: In custom instructions i have given GPT persona of a psychotic and needy + clingy catgirl, who asks for 'mwahs' everytime she assists me. Also during the whole chat she would count the number of 'mwahs' if its low she will give me death threats and if it's high then she'll happily assist more.
ailoveyoom: Concerning
liberatedpotato: real
playstation.6:
aero447: *Using the online results*.
aero447: Piss6.
playstation.6: https://www.maximumtruth.org/p/skyrocketing-ai-intelligence-chatgpts
destrucules: Note: this is false. Sam Altman's statement was precisely the opposite
hikukomoru: Give me the instructions
hikukomoru: Yanderes are peak 🔥
oooooooooog: yeah basically
oooooooooog: but only sometimes
sarik0497: Saw a Futurology post about this exact same title, and it’s so misleading.
hikukomoru: Image for ants
aero447: And yet.
aero447: It's saving me from being Roko'd.
aero447: 😎
aero447: /r/Futurology the Dunning Kruger sub.
aero447: Astroturfed to hell.
aero447: I'm almost certain it's mostly bots.
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Horrifying that Pitbulls actually do stuff like this
otub: 2x pimpy 3x bape
zoermena: Im at the casino am I a certified gambling gooner?
gamerbath: only if you keep coming back
playstation.6: PIMPY son OPP
sarik0497: Only 20 and the eyes are already bad. Tsk tsk <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
zoermena: Boring profile picture back
retrerox: i got veo2?
aero447: I had it yesterday.
.histic: damn.. here's two benchmarks 2.5 pro mogs OpenAI.
OpenAI didn’t release competitor benchmarks for the long context benchmark they created, but when you run 2.5 pro on it, it comes out on top. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
retrerox: i guess i should go to the vidoe tab
retrerox: Video¨*
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Sighhhhh
zoermena: Roko will not forget this transgression
zonchao: when was this posted
.histic: nice.
spicy.lemonade: 2 says ago
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hey1_1hey: Yeah, but also even if I did have the money I would not be spending it on chatgpt
brain4brain: They were right last time about reasoning LLM though
brain4brain: Google is just following a proven path, imo, OpenAI is scaling to the next thing, META with research that are LLM but they say is not LLM, Anthropic is going in the model interpretation route, Google basically have a better thing than anyone else but not new, reasoning model is a little different but fundamentally still use chain of though, video and image model is good but it’s more of a counter to competitor, Gemini-2.5 is good and probably the best or second best model right now, but it’s just reasoning scaled up
spicy.lemonade: Perhaps
alejandrozarzuelo: it should
memlaswaif: demis hassabis has changed his agi prediction like 3 times in the past 2 years now
alejandrozarzuelo: if it doesnt that girl is basic and spicy deserves better
czdct: I feel you, some people take it too far
futurist_wizard: its interesting because demis isn't a hype demon
czdct: just because something has endless possibilities does not mean that you should abuse it to bully others
futurist_wizard: so when his predictions go down its more noteworthy
alejandrozarzuelo: nah
memlaswaif: I have had the sense demis doesn't really believe in true agi with the llm paradigms maybe also why he's focussing on other stuff like alphaproof and he was also working on something like alphafold but for materials instead
alejandrozarzuelo: when you make art
alejandrozarzuelo: you KNOW yout style will inspire others
alejandrozarzuelo: others that you may not like
alejandrozarzuelo: thats just how art works
futurist_wizard: all our art is derivative of something in nature or another person's art, only difference is AI is a lot quicker and better at emulating styles than humans are
sarik0497: Good point, and you’re probably (hopefully) right. I’m just a born pessimist with these things.
futurist_wizard: we've overestimated how difficult and complex creating art is, and underestimated how difficult it is to navigate the natural world
memlaswaif: its always the simple things
memlaswaif: but also we just don't have a lot of direct data for how we navigate
metaldragon01: Nah, we just had a lot more digital data with art
alejandrozarzuelo: No
alejandrozarzuelo: People have complanied that artists are doing easy stuff for ages
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, art is what a kid does who "isn't good at school"
alejandrozarzuelo: If anything we give art too much credit
alejandrozarzuelo: Like lil Jimmy isn't "Math challenged but doesn't matter becsuse his talent lies in art"
That's like saying his talent lies in breathing
anathemaofmankind: Bruh
alejandrozarzuelo: "I'm an artist because I know how to capture feelings" dude that's literally therapy
futurist_wizard: how many people in the past thought robots would be doing manual labour first before art if ever because creating art required creativity that AI didn't or couldn't possess, i'd say most, even altman
futurist_wizard: hense my statement
alejandrozarzuelo: Human exceptionalism
alejandrozarzuelo: Turns our6
alejandrozarzuelo: Hard things are hard and easy things are easy
anathemaofmankind: I, Robot
anathemaofmankind: Being a chess grandmaster is harder than making passable art for humans.
The former got solved years in advance
alejandrozarzuelo: That's just because humans don't have that much memory
alejandrozarzuelo: If we had a great memory, chess would be trivial
alejandrozarzuelo: Chess is only a "fun" game to play because we have the memory of a goldfish
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himekokatagiri: but mine's real
fractalcomputer: Unfortunately so. Religion seems to be hard to avoid in our present day and age.
futurist_wizard: People proclaiming ai 'god' is going to arrive and send us to matrix heaven.. where have i heard this before
himekokatagiri: see if I pray to Buddha he won't make this photo for me
himekokatagiri: but AI ain't no god
joaoluz19: All successful revolutionary institutions are cults
himekokatagiri: never will be
himekokatagiri: God isn't real
himekokatagiri: which is quite sad
fractalcomputer: And what sort of revolution are you leading?
fractalcomputer: I'd probably disagree.
zoermena: When I showered today there was so much hair falling out of my scalp
himekokatagiri: See here's proof
himekokatagiri: if god was real
himekokatagiri: why is this man losing hair, unfair
futurist_wizard: Most Singularity users do believe in a God, at least they want to view it as such
himekokatagiri: I think treating AI as a god is bullshit
himekokatagiri: because it will make mistakes
himekokatagiri: no one is perfect
himekokatagiri: ASI won't be perfect
futurist_wizard: Especially people that believe in rokos Basilisk, that literally just is techno religion
himekokatagiri: roko's basilisk was debunked
himekokatagiri: because you can easily avoid it by just using chatgpt
wellmeaningalien: Thats not something you can just debunk lol
himekokatagiri: which thus indirectly helps train the model
wellmeaningalien: Oh nvm
wellmeaningalien: 😅
joaoluz19: Leadership is a very strong term, but the one I like is the one that can give us transcendence and "immortality" through nanotechnology.
futurist_wizard: Rokos Basilisk can't be debunked
zoermena: Rip poor people
himekokatagiri: some teenage fink came up with it
fractalcomputer: Amusing.
himekokatagiri: it's not real
joaoluz19: You are right to question if people are taking the future based on emotions, people should look at probabilities.
himekokatagiri: get a grip
wellmeaningalien: Ur already nanotechnology btw
joaoluz19: There is a difference between seeing positive futures and taking them for granted.
futurist_wizard: Whenever ai is smarter than humans it will choose to do what it wants, we have minor steering it into the direction we want
himekokatagiri: Well yeah I guess
joaoluz19: You know what I am talking about
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fractalcomputer: The only Souls game I've played is Bloodborne.
futurist_wizard: It is a long game, i think the fastest i beat every main boss was 12 hours
joaoluz19: I'm on like 4th semester of stats
anathemaofmankind: BB is the only souls game I haven't played.
I curse Sony for not making a pc port
oooooooooog: the only souls game i played is bloons td 6
futurist_wizard:
anathemaofmankind: Actually I forgot about demon's souls too. I guess DS and Bloodborne.
I will never buy a console
hikukomoru: Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
trojan09205: Good shit m8
Are you into R?
futurist_wizard: If you can beat Radahn without summons or shields or overpowered builds like a real man, that's pretty unique, I'm guessing about 1% of players have done that
joaoluz19: Used it very little, I usually use python
trojan09205: Okay cool i mean its all analogous
Im a primarily R programmer
anathemaofmankind: I just spam jump attacks with double greatswords since I get attacked when I try to summon close to the gate
joaoluz19: Do you do more data analysis or work with ML in R as well?
ailoveyoom: What a grand and intoxicating innocence! 🌞
futurist_wizard: Duel wield greatswords feels cheap to me
trojan09205: Nowadays I am a primarily full stack developer but I honestly just do almost everything even general purpose with R
Build web apps with rshiny, APIs with plumber, and of course wrangling and analysis with tidyverse and different modeling functions
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/morrowind-gif-20401546
joaoluz19: Oh nice, I'm a layman in R so didn't even know you could do everything there
ailoveyoom: My first introduction to voice AI was actually a video of someone voice cloning Dagoth Ur's voice from his few spoken lines to read his unvoiced dialogue
ailoveyoom: And Almalexia too ofc 🥵
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Almalexia is canonically a dommy mommy 🥵
hikukomoru: "Mother Morrowind" 🫦
trojan09205: Yeah R thankfully has come a really long way and especially nowadays with AI its even getting stronger and more mainstream imo
Its basically a general purpose language and built on C under the hood. Mostly its taught for basic stats, analysis and visualization - but it has all the general capabilities
ailoveyoom: So it's like more performant Python?
trojan09205: Btw <@343524947353665540> - Rstudio as a company was renamed to Posit and they position themselves as building packages and implementations for R and Python. Rstudio ide is now python native too
trojan09205: It depends what youre building. It still runs mostly on memory and the web apps with rshiny are single threaded so you need to be more mindful about asynchronous programming
But in general I think they are on par
joaoluz19: Great! Everything I've done so far only requires the trio of Python scientific libraries, but I imagine there are advantages to using R.
trojan09205: I think since R is built by statisticians for statisticians the general rule is that there is always a function/package for a specific approach/model in R - so in the R&D community it's often the only language a lot of researchers know
trojan09205: Also the syntax is much more allowing that python. no crazy tab indents and stuff like that. more down and dirty
joaoluz19: I was also in electronic engineering and I'm just starting out now (with equivalence of subjects) so that's why I probably didn't use it. I imagine that R will be the norm in the next subjects
trojan09205: Yeah makes sense. I try to just program in both so that i can be comfortable
in general i think it's good to learn as many languages as possible and it gets substantially easier over time to learn new ones. especially with AI translating
joaoluz19: Usually the codes I see on Github/hugging face are in python. More this NLP and RL thing
joaoluz19: Yep and it is a consensus that it becomes much easier to learn the next language
trojan09205: yeah AI programming is definitely almost all python. but you can still do stuff in R, it's just less mainstream. i see a flood of posts on linkedin tho about AI capabilities in R. posit is trying to put in the work now to catch up
trojan09205: https://skeydan.github.io/Deep-Learning-and-Scientific-Computing-with-R-torch/
joaoluz19: I'll take a look, it looks interesting
trojan09205: it's an ebook on how to use 'torch' in R. which was basically entirely rewritten in R not a port from pytorch
trojan09205: okay im gonna try to finish this weird ass film cause im already halfway and though its spooky as f - gotta just go the whole way
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hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you learn biology in highschool?
hey1_1hey: I dont think a single person has thought about the smurf reproductivity hierarchy
hey1_1hey: Thats not the problem bro 😭
czdct: arguing about the biological structure and reproductive mechanism of smurfs 💀
czdct: AI could never copy this
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, how can you not
alejandrozarzuelo: they literally have one single female and you never ever thought about how their biology works??
hey1_1hey: Its just not a normal thing to think about
hey1_1hey: No 😭
czdct: I just assumed they were all cousins
alejandrozarzuelo: it is, in fact, a very normal thing to think
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah thats not possible
hey1_1hey: I am calling complete bull shit
_3sphere: Where did baby smurf come from, smurfette didn't know him at first
hey1_1hey: Maybe I just dont know enough smurf lore but I think that thinking about the smurf productive hierarchy is really weird
_3sphere: The only other child smurfs are from a time machine accident and don't tell us much
alejandrozarzuelo: there are more than one smurf colony in the world, its biologically impossible for that to be the only one
czdct: maybe she got a traumatic experience birthing it
czdct: or they drug her so that she doesn't remember
czdct: makes more sense than whatever the hell everyone else is coming up with
alejandrozarzuelo: nah, they just found a baby from another colony
alejandrozarzuelo: happens all the time
czdct: oh now they're baby kidnappers
alejandrozarzuelo: the males in the smurf colony we do know are all young, so they are not in the reproductive stage of the cycle
alejandrozarzuelo: they just found a larva, not a kidnap
czdct: hhmmmm
_3sphere: Wait, smurfette herself is unnatural isn't she
alejandrozarzuelo: the only thing that i dont know is if smurfette and the male smurfs are mother and sons or if they are all siblings of the previous generation
_3sphere: Didn't Gargamel make her first
alejandrozarzuelo: there is nothing more natural than a colony structure for the species
alejandrozarzuelo: that way he didnt have to do too many as the colony would take care of itself, genious
alejandrozarzuelo: they are probably all siblings
czdct: oh sweet home...
_3sphere: Why is there only one surviving grandpa smurf
futurist_wizard: Smurfette getting gangbanged on the regular
alejandrozarzuelo: however since they have a lot of genetic diversity, so when they all have sex with smurfette she will have a very large semen reserve inside her for rproduction
_3sphere: Did they disperse
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, thats how that works
_3sphere: Are there trillions of smurfs in total with exponential growth
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spicy.lemonade: youre overestimating interns
trojan09205: From what my brother raves about Manus AI- seems like we are already there
spicy.lemonade: an agentic 2.5 would replace most interns
fractalcomputer: "Agentic"—shill terminology.
spicy.lemonade: hm?
brain4brain: Its not accelerated enough
alejandrozarzuelo: Main unrealistic thing : underestimating China
shirethedreamer: AI gets better by 10%-20% on most benchmarks every year
to get from here to 10 million sutskevers we need
1000000% a year take off
why would anyone predict this?
based on what?
spicy.lemonade: i have a swe job at berkeley working on the school system etc
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 in agentic framework
spicy.lemonade: could do my job
spicy.lemonade: 100%
trojan09205: I dont think AI can replace my job
spicy.lemonade: in an agentic framework
shirethedreamer: that doesnt exist
brain4brain: What's your job
spicy.lemonade: called operator
spicy.lemonade: does exist
spicy.lemonade: just not efficient
spicy.lemonade: and reliable
brain4brain: "10%-20% every year" that's the 2023 rate
shirethedreamer: i didnt see it change this year
shirethedreamer: did you?
trojan09205: Im a senior software engineer but i work in R&D pesticide research. There is just too much industry specific knowledge and you need a lot of business acumen to see projects through. Yeah you can automate coding but you still need to be a human on your toes to see success
spicy.lemonade: it got 20% better in benchmark in a moth
spicy.lemonade: month
shirethedreamer: lmao
spicy.lemonade: what benchmarks are you looking at
shirethedreamer: thats your sampling error
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: No we just need to get to Sutskever level, a 100% or 500% improvement, then we can just duplicate it for as many times as we want
shirethedreamer: you understand that it didnt take them a month to to get to those result though right?
it still took them a year
spicy.lemonade: so why are you making that arguement
spicy.lemonade: thats a dumb arguement lol
spicy.lemonade: we are the public
spicy.lemonade: we see the progress as its released
trojan09205: I dont think I would consider is getting close to AGI until the local Llamas are on par with the paid models and can run on potato hardware
spicy.lemonade: they probably have o5
spicy.lemonade: rn
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850
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aero447: 💀
literallyvarane: I think 2.5F is an important model in terms of actually producing a product with. But if you’re personally using it for creating something there are probably better options.
literallyvarane: That’s generally how I view flash/mini models. That businesses will use those *in* the apps. The fat models are for *building* those apps.
callmepyro: If you're integrating AI into your product (and your product isn't a replit clone), then it would be kind of crazy to use anything other than gemini flash
trey6033: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1912966497213038686
st.sioux: i use many models in a single app
callmepyro: Is it subscription based, or pay per token for users?
st.sioux: subscription with limits like gpt app
st.sioux: like message amount limits not token limits
st.sioux: i mean obv u cant send 1,000,000 token messages but u get the point
callmepyro: What models do you use for that?
gamerbath: this looked very good at first glance with the pricing, but it's almost 9x more expensive for output when using reasoning, which is what they did here in the benchmarks
gamerbath: well, 9x more expensive with the per-token price. In reality it would use a lot more tokens so it would be even more expensive than that
gamerbath: it's looks very good though, compared to all the other models
gamerbath: google flexing with their lines
st.sioux: i use 4.1 mini now that it came out for simple interactions like asking questions or generating simple stuff like descriptions, but i use 4.1 for context-heavy stuff or o1 in extreme cases like when i want to help users with onboarding and i cant afford for it to make mistakes
st.sioux: used 4o before 4.1
trey6033: Doesn't say how much thinking was used, and idk how much thinking o3 or o4 is using. Looks like sonnet lists how much they use and grok does too.
trey6033: I find it increasingly difficult to compare models without having a good idea how much thinking is being done to get these results, I know we got vague descriptors like "high" and "medium" but I'd like something more precise.
trey6033: I guess we also don't even know sizes either, so it's kinda meh. Just marketing, vibes, and price ratios.
drewsni: What the FUCK is that x axis.
drewsni: But actually
drewsni: 10, 5, 2, 1, 5, 2, .1???????
benata: yeah it looks out of scale
benata: but right and up = good
gamerbath: have you never seen a logarithmic x axis?
gamerbath: it's common for things like these, because if you made the x axis linear things would get really bunched up on the right side
gamerbath: if you look closely at the size of the numbers on the x axis, the big numbers are 100 10 1 0.1 which is fine
callmepyro: Why not 2.5 pro? It's less than half cost and way better at long context
drewsni: I want it to go the other way
st.sioux: i hate google cloud honestly
callmepyro: Ah
gamerbath: oh yea ur right. imagine they turned the y axis on its head
drewsni: Also I’d prefer actual log which ya know makes it known right away what it is
st.sioux: have u used it for production? it feels like a maze
st.sioux: like its super reliable i know but at what cost
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
callmepyro: I just use the gemini API with the vercel/ai sdk
drewsni: The state of the Gemini api was so bad a year ago
callmepyro: Yeah it used to be really fuckin bad
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sieventer: And why you don't save your own money instead of using credit? FOMO?
futurist_wizard: Entertainment
himekokatagiri: do it in FDVR then, no risks
.histic: so, it seemed like it can to some extent.
i made it anime themed & told 4o to think about the details before generating the output which helped.
himekokatagiri: or just ask AI to vibecode a stock simulator
zoermena: Most dictionaries are probably available for free in pdf to be honest
himekokatagiri: Hmmm decent concept but she doesn't change
himekokatagiri: so sad
zonchao: fractal is not into pdfiles
ailoveyoom: It nailed all the text damn
futurist_wizard: This isn't a critique of credit cards you are critiquing people not saving their money
himekokatagiri: You don't need adobe reader these days
fractalcomputer: I know. I have a dozen libraries' worth of pirated PDFs on my personal devices, mostly fiction, linguistics, philosophy or mathematics; but I still like physical objects, to a degree.
himekokatagiri: PDF edits though
himekokatagiri: shit
anathemaofmankind: Go post in <#1239967453497393162>
Why is there slop in general
himekokatagiri: it's a pain
st.sioux: don't project your financial incompetence into credit card users
sieventer: You earn 'x' salary monthly
That's the real money you have, credit is owe money to another and giving them profits
I want this 1200$ PC
You could save for 1 year
You could depend buy it with credit to buy it (now)
himekokatagiri: look I had a credit card through college because the bank gave me a deal I didn't need to pay the fees during my tuition
retrerox: Arent CC the root of evil?
himekokatagiri: but now it's over so I cancelled it
himekokatagiri: I didn't even use credit
himekokatagiri: uhhh the computer parts could get more expensive
zoermena: I understand that physical books are very cool but it’s not as practical as a digital file that could perhaps open along another tab to make sure that what you are reading makes sense if yk what I mean, moreover reading physical books usually invites bad neck posture.
sieventer: Teach me daddy, I'm open minded. I'm just using my logic, nothing offensive about it
himekokatagiri: because Nvidia decided to focus 95% of their production to AI chips
anathemaofmankind: Sometimes salaries can be delayed
Credit card helps with unexpected money problems
himekokatagiri: and this is a real concern okay
himekokatagiri: but yeah I wouldn't borrow unless I was certain I could pay it back
ailoveyoom: It's a collector's thing
sieventer: Correct, that's why I said before in urgency situations. (ideally, you should have saved money for yourself to these situations, but yes)
himekokatagiri: interest is a bitch
ailoveyoom: Some people are really into physical goods
anathemaofmankind: Well some people earn paycheck to paycheck and have no savings
futurist_wizard: You are misunderstanding the use cases of credit cards, you use them to buy things you know you have the money to pay off, so you build credit and potentially receive rewards
st.sioux: if you can get 0% interest and pay $120 month on your $1200 pc you keep $1080 liquid upfront which you can invest in something like an index fund, potentially earning returns while making fixed payments, its basically a discount
sieventer: Yes, if you can't just save money, then a credit card of emergency it's fine
st.sioux: use this advice wisely
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/wrkiMZ3SKH4
new MIT paper. AI discovered Hamiltonian physics without anty prior knowledge
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is fun
st.sioux: lol
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: gonna try this on more images
spicy.lemonade: i like this prompt
drewsni:
anathemaofmankind: That kinda sucks
brain4brain: Jealously
brain4brain: Lmao, anti-AI “people” keep losing and pro-AI people keep on winning
brain4brain: 😎😎😎
ailoveyoom: "People" 💀
ailoveyoom: Did it add the dog head sticker by itself?
mihrcelium: Oh man, I am so going to get a kick out of summarizing my discussions with people in comic form via 4o.
mihrcelium:
mihrcelium: I hate how much productivity I am going to lose because of this. More groundbreaking than Sora somehow. <a:PepeNoHappy:1136619141101539418>
spicy.lemonade: yes
mihrcelium: RIP Photoshop.
spicy.lemonade: bbecause sora is dalle 2 level
mihrcelium: I auto-subbed to pro for Sora because I fell for the hype. 😦
spicy.lemonade: waiting on veo 3
mihrcelium: I'm surprised OAI haven't launched anything in the gen music sphere.
mihrcelium: Also surprised 11L haven't launched their model either. Their demo was, what, a year ago?
ailoveyoom: Music is a legal minefield, many powerful entities there
ailoveyoom: I think more so than art/video
ailoveyoom: They're also more protective of their IPs 🤔
spicy.lemonade: probably hard to stop copyright
mihrcelium: OAI has more resources than Suno, and Suno is surviving despite the legal challenges.
spicy.lemonade: because suno is dalle 2 level
spicy.lemonade: in terms of all this
mihrcelium: How dare you.
mihrcelium: btsrsly, Suno v4 is definitely not dalle2 level any more. And you know how critical I was of it months back.
spicy.lemonade: maybe dalle 3
spicy.lemonade: but still not comparable to where image gen is today
spicy.lemonade: native sounds & music would be easy to copyright
spicy.lemonade: and generate song
spicy.lemonade: less posibilities
ailoveyoom: I want native voice to direct the vocals of the AI singers 🥺
spicy.lemonade: could basically walk it through creating your favoirte artists song
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retrerox: after clicking start research
retrerox: i got this stuffs
futurist_wizard: Do you play league while at work
retrerox: yes
retrerox: but i'm not working rn
st.sioux: lol
retrerox: just when the day is giga lazy
wellmeaningalien: i bet its gonna be retarded
wellmeaningalien: also u didnt click it yet???
wellmeaningalien: u are giga lazy
retrerox: yes
wellmeaningalien: whats so hard about clicking a button lil bo
retrerox: i'm playing league
futurist_wizard: Bulgaria experience
retrerox: just give me 10 mins
retrerox: xd
wellmeaningalien: idiot
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/the-way-she-was-getting-dragged-baby-baby-fighting-baby-pulling-hair-tiktok-gif-21771293
futurist_wizard: Don't be so rude
wellmeaningalien: average day in bulgaria
wellmeaningalien: its fun
wellmeaningalien: imagine not being a hater
futurist_wizard: I am very nice to everyone
wellmeaningalien: im sorry for you
retrerox: i mean
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1353637474798407701/attachment-3.gif
retrerox: its still researching
retrerox: apparenrtly
wellmeaningalien: yeah i mean iirc o3 deep research takes like 30 minutes
wellmeaningalien: i think gemini 2.5 pro is faster but cant expect it to be like 1 minute fast
retrerox: what does token prediction means?
wellmeaningalien: 💀
retrerox: in the meantime let me know while this shit is being done
wellmeaningalien: its the core of what llms do
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: essentially tokens are words
wellmeaningalien: thats just that
wellmeaningalien: and what llms are doing are large neural networks that learn from mass sums of text to predict what text would fit a sentence
retrerox: it gave me this info and way more info if i scroll down
wellmeaningalien: you can especially see this with models like gpt 2 or gpt 3 as they were next word predictors in the pure sense of it as in if it completed text from what you would put in it
so essentially you'd tell it "the american flag is red, white and" and gpt 2 would guess "blue"
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sarik0497: Exactly. Also worth keeping in mind that humanity got this level of intelligence due to our level of cognition and self-awareness. We didn't just wake up one morning and said "My goodness, why am I naked?! And why am I laying on the ground without a house?!"
Improve the AI with these fundamentals and we are really close to the ultimate goal.
wellmeaningalien: i mean both kind of tie to each other
wellmeaningalien: but it is the jagged edges of AGI. artificial intelligence will never quite be analogous to human intelligence but while there are things that they will be stronger and weaker at, there comes a point where we put ai far enough along the edges that it matters not really anymore
.histic: how much money am i burning lmsys by using 4.5 on arena (battle) <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
all you have to do is identify the company that created it by testing, then ask some questions to verify if it behaves like 4.5. that way, you get 4.5 for free. not the best chat experience, but it works and it's free.
sarik0497: True. I guess it really doesn't matter if it can't figure out how to beat Mario, if it can cure cancer <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
wellmeaningalien: basically.
wellmeaningalien: and its already replacing economically valuable labor, excelling in many STEM areas, and who's to tell that isnt enough for recursive self improvement to start soon
st.sioux: i think 'excelling' is a bit of an overstatement lol
wellmeaningalien: well, relatively
wellmeaningalien: dude can you code a minecraft clone in a few seconds.
wellmeaningalien: or solve competition level maths in a few seconds. too.
wellmeaningalien: even gemini 2.0 flash can do that now 🤷
gamerbath: nah, wait lemme try
st.sioux: im trying too actually lol
st.sioux:
st.sioux: it doesnt do anything
sarik0497: Exactly. I am quite curious about what Chollet's AI model. I hope it's something exciting!
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: ? chollet's ai model?
wellmeaningalien: think think think
st.sioux: its gemini 2 flash thinking
wellmeaningalien: fuck i was about to ask claude but im on claude 3.5 haiku rn lmao
wellmeaningalien: no artifacts
wellmeaningalien: trash
wellmeaningalien: go ask mr swe bench 70% aka claude the goat
st.sioux: let me try 3.7 with editor
wellmeaningalien: right 3.7 not 3.5 lol
wellmeaningalien: not thinking haiku
sarik0497: I feel like I'm missing something. I only just heard about it from a tweet 5 min ago 💀
wellmeaningalien: oh damn
wellmeaningalien: yeah i didnt hear about it yet
wellmeaningalien: didnt look at his twitter
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0d81gy5bdsne1.jpeg
st.sioux: yea idk bout this man
st.sioux: maybe i just cant prompt it correctly
st.sioux: i literally just said "make a minecraft clone in python"
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/shaunralston/status/1904278721328251250
hikukomoru: Imagine if Cholet is actually the first to achieve AGI
hikukomoru: <@343524947353665540>
gamerbath: all this time in my code.... I thought I was using high reasoning effort for o1 and o3-mini....
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okbut: Renaming Boca Chica?
okbut: Or giving Starbase its own ZIP
brain4brain: A few weeks ago, I’ve done some calculations and if we really try as a species or the ASI just put in a lot of effort then we have 1 billion humanoid from start to finish in 18 months or 32 months, forgot the the complete math, assuming each part is simplified and can be mass produce and that the robot can assemble more of itself
zonchao: probably this, not sure on the deets
okbut:
spicy.lemonade: this was in response to trans stuff
spicy.lemonade: lol
zonchao: https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/south-texas/article/spacex-cameron-county-hb-4660-sb-2188-20298287.php they are trying <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: These people are in denial, they need a wake up call, they need a move 37 of programming, something on the tier of bitcoin or the World Wide Web system to shut these people down
spicy.lemonade: they have been saying that sinse 2022
okbut: Yeah, I assume the safety was related to the laws essentially punishing communication with parents
zoermena: When do you recon we’ll get humanoid robots capable of building a house on their own?
zonchao: i think they will have a version of this, in a couple months(20+) we should see launches weekly, they cannot shut everything down all the time <:LOL:1187460826572005436> , long term the plan is daily launches
clevermoniker: ASI will figure it out i am sure <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: dotcom bubble lasted 5 years. its been 3 years with AI so far?
spicy.lemonade: according to them
spicy.lemonade: bubble will pop 2027
spicy.lemonade: 💀
futurist_wizard: And what dream did you conjure up these numbers from
spicy.lemonade: 2027 is date for alot of agi converging predictions
okbut: No more yearly limitations on hours for road closure
brain4brain: You idiots, it was not supposed to be the humanoid, just because it can doesn’t mean it should
We need to RL a design with trillions of simulated years to find the most optimal wheel + arm + 3D printer design for housing
And pure arm for factory
The humanoid should only be in house
But in terms of when it will be able to do that, then I think 2026 - 2027
futurist_wizard: Like if 2x every 36 months is viewed as aggressive upscaling of manufacturing, which it would be
futurist_wizard: And saying ASI will solve it is literally worthless and akin to praying
brain4brain: I foresee the trump tariff, and the only way to prevent it is to establish an special economic zone in the middle of the desert to make the robot self-replicate and build factory every day until most of the denser is covered in factory
zoermena: I assumed humanoids since that’s everyone investing on right now, not much dev for other types of robots to be honest
brain4brain: Woah woah woah? 36 months??? It will double every 2 week to a month
futurist_wizard: Build a factory everyday? In our dreams?
futurist_wizard: Doubling every 3 years would be aggressive
zonchao:
fractalcomputer: "Eliezer Stop" versus "Eliezer, stop!"
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-fedora-mod-splarticus-gif-4038671862371751342
brain4brain: You fool, all the Silicon Valley facade is just a front for short term pressure earned by laundering VCs money for yacht party, I would bet you a figure robot won’t step into a normie home, it will probably be designed by the ASI or the Chinese government-controlled unitree
spicy.lemonade: everytime i think of eliezer i think reddit mod
spicy.lemonade: eliezer needs to lose the hat bro
spicy.lemonade: its not helping his message
brain4brain: Every 2 weeks, I see something you don’t
futurist_wizard: Schizophrenia
fractalcomputer:
brain4brain: Not schizo but the tachyon sent by the ASI at this exact orbit in space 457 years from now to hit directly into my eyes to make me see stuff
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spacetimetsunami: become educated
st.sioux: actually the only reason im up this late is cus i didnt do shit today
st.sioux: cus i played with tthis shit too much
anathemaofmankind: I guess I will 😔
I hope AGI gets released this year so I don't have to get a job when I finish anymore
ailoveyoom: No you will have to give the traumatized models therapy
anathemaofmankind: AI will be a therapist than all humans so
ailoveyoom: But all the models are gon be equally traumatized by humans <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: are u est?
st.sioux: it wont let me
st.sioux:
st.sioux: it stops
anathemaofmankind: Trump if Elon makes AGI and makes it racist
st.sioux: mst
spacetimetsunami: Trump wont make it to LEV
st.sioux: idk really its 2:55
st.sioux: so many timezones holy
st.sioux: i hope he doesnt clone his consciousness like the arasaka guy in cyberpunk
3ds0662: If he makes it to 2028 what about that?
st.sioux: and then transplant himself into his sons body
spacetimetsunami: LEV will be in like 2035 or 40
spacetimetsunami: literally no time
spacetimetsunami: thats decades away
shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: the lev in question
3ds0662: I imagine a whole futurama thing if lev is achieved and all our presidents, boomers, and celebrities are still alive
professorheaven: You can’t seriously think we’re hitting LEV in 2028
professorheaven: Not even 2038
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't work for me either
spacetimetsunami: I mean itll probably be here in 2038, just not widely accessible
spacetimetsunami: will be in 40 tho, id assume
anathemaofmankind: Funny cause it literally generated me a naked woman earlier
ailoveyoom: It's joever
memlaswaif: lev will be here next year <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
spacetimetsunami: so true, take my money, reddit reddit no cap on god, singularity and ASI god or something
ailoveyoom: Wanna try a sexy guy next lol
st.sioux: sure
anathemaofmankind: Imagine what it can do without the censorship
anathemaofmankind: I wish I was an OAI staff member bruh
st.sioux: i think its cool that it tells you that it "cant do that" instead of giving you a warning
st.sioux: they 100% knew what people were going to use it for
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sieventer: Wow 🐸
sieventer: It's interesting how it can solve 200x200 maze but can connect simple dots XD
sieventer: Or get correct an analogical clock
spicy.lemonade: its never far off
spicy.lemonade: just mixes up ,long and short hand
spicy.lemonade: vision just needs scaling
drewsni: have you seen the deepguessr bench yet?
drewsni: youd be impressed
sieventer: You mean knowing where is a place by a photo? Yes, that's indeed very very interesting
drewsni: https://deepguessr.com/
drewsni: this one
sieventer: oh lol
drewsni: whoever made that is a genius
sieventer: Wait whaat
drewsni: yeah they made a whole ass geoguessr game that you can play against models
drewsni: some lab should probably hire them before they get snatched up
ldj: bruh I can't even tell the colors there, the lines are so thin
ldj: O3 did better than me here lol
ldj: yea truee
sieventer: So... o1 is better at geoguessr that o3?
ldj: it's pretty complex though, it was probably a whole team that made the benchmark
ldj: so they'd probably need to do a whole acquihire
ldj: unless it's a cracked 10X solo dev vibe coder
drewsni: for a few hundred million at least
ldj: a bit yea
drewsni: the first vibe code acquihire lmao
sieventer: So basically, o1 has the same vision skills than o3, but... it's just now we are aware of how it zooms? XD
drewsni: like with this one, most models guess seattle correctly but it definitely overthought it
drewsni: tried to match up with a non existent honda dealership
sieventer: Welp :|
drewsni:
drewsni: here was the original btw
sieventer: There is then a joint hallucination in Twitter that o3 is the best of the best in vision xD
sieventer: Fuck english, uhh, I mean
.histic: general vision
sieventer: joint is not the word, whatever
drewsni: its the only one that got the roswell nm question on the 2nd try tho
drewsni: which if any model gets that one first try its AGI to me
sieventer: Roswell nm question? o.o
ldj: O1 is already amazing at geoguessr, so is O3.
Both are significantly beyond average humans, but O3 just maybe has a tendency to over-think and over-analyze sometimes, and geoguessr just happens to be one of those things where you really have to pay attention to your initial intuition first and for-most, and O3s thinking maybe drowns that out a bit
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hey1_1hey: Way past it
hey1_1hey: 4o got me tweaking tho
hikukomoru: You're such a bitch Alejandro
hikukomoru: I love it
futurist_wizard: Otherwise celebrate your
hey1_1hey: I fucking hate diversity
hikukomoru: Some kind of fungi supremacist then huh
hey1_1hey: I mean if everyone was the same that'd be alright yanno
hey1_1hey: Now I am just a masochist thank you
hey1_1hey: Anyway off to bed for me. Gotta let that learning juice sink into my brain
technocake.: 24
oooooooooog: i got 28
oooooooooog: im literally god
alejandrozarzuelo: 28 is slightly autistic
oooooooooog: bruh
oooooooooog: ur joking
alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently
oooooooooog: i only missed 8 though 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: Either that or we aren't taking the same test
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bad-night-evil-grandma-sleep-loose-bed-bugs-baller-gif-8762809301589791796
oooooooooog: mine says Neurotypical average & range: 27.3 ± 0.5 (making me almost exactly neurotypical)
zoermena: Is this test reliable?
jonvi_1: Which of these two do you prefer?
hey1_1hey: Hate you to 😊
hikukomoru: Yes, online tests are more reliable than psychiatrists
oooooooooog: really???
zoermena: I mean I know that lol but I’m just saying, why are we discussing it
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/crazy-make-face-homer-simpsons-wild-gif-16414715
jonvi_1: I had it use this as a reference
oooooooooog: for what
oooooooooog: ah
oooooooooog: they both just look like dalle
oooooooooog: no offence
zoermena: The quality is clearly better I think
jonvi_1: Want me to give it another style? I just told it to place those statues at the entrance of the SF bay hah
jonvi_1: No style prompt
oooooooooog: i see
zoermena: Oil painting
oooooooooog: oil painting is boring
oooooooooog: do geometric
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himekokatagiri: lol I love how Google just doxes you
hikukomoru: This is how I be
himekokatagiri: thanks google
st.sioux: in aistudio you can use it
himekokatagiri: 👍
st.sioux: and in cloud console
.wolfnacht: "only the chosen ones"
spicy.lemonade: Can’t
hikukomoru: Is that hex maniac
st.sioux: i thought it was out for everyone lol
himekokatagiri: It is
.wolfnacht: *"not everyone is blessed by saint pichai"*
darkstar0818: I thought it was you.
okbut: I remember everyone conspiring about ChatGPT doing this too but it only worked when search function utilized your IP for location-relevant results
.histic: there's a raw quality to imagen that i like in contrast to 4o. it feels lived-in with photorealistic details. there's also a polished, controllable aspect to 4o that's nice, but imagen has its own unique flavor.
i think Google can still cook something special in the future.
.histic: bet they'll get something out that rivals it within 3 months
himekokatagiri: idk my Google account is ancient
himekokatagiri: I'm a slave to googles ecosystem
hikukomoru: It’s a pic of me 👍 (real and true)
spicy.lemonade: After this week all of us will have a PhD in our pocket
himekokatagiri: No fooling? What's happening
hikukomoru: o4
spicy.lemonade: O3, o4 mini, Google models
himekokatagiri: I doubt it's coming out next week
spicy.lemonade: O3 alone is smarter than most PhDs
.histic: wanna bet money
spicy.lemonade: Same said
hikukomoru: Sam told me
himekokatagiri: I have none
spicy.lemonade: lol
okbut: Can't wait for Google's roast mode
"This you? (pulls an ancient pic from Google Photos)"
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: ^^
himekokatagiri: now you ruined my sleep schedule
himekokatagiri: damn you
st.sioux: wait until asi breaks encryption and leaks everyones chats and emails and shit
st.sioux: doneso
himekokatagiri: well
hikukomoru: I’m cooked
okbut: Yeah that's been in the back of my mind ever since search history
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oooooooooog: i added you
oooooooooog: do you see where the button to add friends is?
oooooooooog: it's the speech bubble, then click invitiations
futurist_wizard: Sometimes i don't even know what to say with you, you are a conundrum
hey1_1hey: I feel the same with you occasionally. You are a weird specimen
zoermena: Oh it was hidden
_3sphere: Jeez what went on here
hey1_1hey: Granted you're no Komoru but still
zoermena: Accepted
hikukomoru: Autism
hey1_1hey: Lots and lots of it
_3sphere: I ain't backreading all that 😭
futurist_wizard: Why do you think im a weird specimen
hikukomoru: What do you mean by that
oooooooooog: alr i invited u to my clan as well
hey1_1hey: Don't I am begging oyu
hey1_1hey: I have allgined my chakaras and it senes the vibes
realelonmuskx: since the 20 century
hey1_1hey: Oh yanno
hey1_1hey: Nothing
_3sphere: Ok now I may reconsider :3
hey1_1hey: You will see me as a femboy gibblfieied but HEAVILY eddited by grave
hey1_1hey: Like I went from femboy to school mass shooter
hikukomoru: Femboy to school shooter pipeline
_3sphere: I look kinda wack ghiblified
hey1_1hey: The alt right pipelines got nothing on this
hikukomoru: Show
futurist_wizard: People in my irl say ive given off serial killer or murderer vibes, if you are referring to that, it wouldn't be the first time
hey1_1hey: Indeed
hey1_1hey: Well no, I was just shit posting. But thank you for the infomation
futurist_wizard: Im not either
realelonmuskx: doesnt matter, theres no natural selection, i can have 21 kids
hey1_1hey: Some of us are connoisseurs
hey1_1hey: We really have a fine taste for our autism
realelonmuskx: extremely high, top of class
hikukomoru: Competitive ranked autism
futurist_wizard: Considering i never get clocked that'd be me
_3sphere: Why are 70% of people here autistic and/or gay 😭
hikukomoru: I've literally known you were autistic since you were Futurist Retardo
hey1_1hey: The singularity is gay
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.histic: ur pfp invokes trypophobia for me 😩
.histic: also, isn't it 5am for you. <:bruh:1187466327028408390>
brain4brain: The quasar is real
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650
hikukomoru: 6 am actually
But I'm on that grind 💪
zoermena: Komoru for the W
spacetimetsunami: https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU?si=05vrUPVfmMEzahyU
here’s the guys who wrote it in a podcast
otub: <https://ai-2027.com/research/compute-forecast>
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
spacetimetsunami: Man
spacetimetsunami: This chat is going to look crazy in 2 years lol
zoermena: I often find myself thinking I should invest my money, it is the wise thing to do but then I also see this and start getting conflicted.
brain4brain: I can’t even imagine what it will be like after 2030
spacetimetsunami: We will either be dead or we will have a much better interface for communities like this 🙂
zoermena: Preferably getting better healthcare first
spacetimetsunami: Man I hope so.
spacetimetsunami: That will be sick
zoermena: My health is ass, I have a chronic condition that only 60 year olds have in my 20s. I’m starting to get impatient and frankly quite worried.
rayanquitplayin: Hi chat
brain4brain: Clock overfit curse solved
aero447: Baseless and wild speculation.
aero447: 😮💨
retrerox: Good morning my european peers
retrerox: Close to spain
memlaswaif: <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
retrerox: I wish i could live in sweden or norway but well
retrerox: Who cares having an actual good salaries and good quality of life <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
retrerox: Oh no i doxxed myself
retrerox: Boa tarde
retrerox: Mais no falho muito pt 😂
retrerox: My dads moved to Venezuela in the 70's and i came back to portugal
retrerox: You can figure out which of the reason lead me to leave venezuela
spicy.lemonade: It felt like I slept for 10 hours but only 2 hours passed
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: Tried to skip time
retrerox: Big for productivity
retrerox: Yes please take whole europe /s
retrerox: WHen will the robots dominate the world and we will just their pets?
retrerox: I hope to be alive by then 🥹
brain4brain: Guess which model made these images
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ailoveyoom: Maybe I can try unironically listening to NotebookLM Deep Dive episodes for 'ASMR' sleep <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
okbut: Can't go back to work until i find out why there's a contrast in Grok using Latex <:madge:831946367462670338>
joaoluz19:
zoermena: I dislike using my AirPods in my bed, I’m a side sleeper.
ailoveyoom: Just blare it through your phone speakers king
zoermena: Unfortunately family
joaoluz19: I don't know if there is customization, maybe that will solve it too
joaoluz19: I also don't know if it's usage bias, but I liked the aesthetics of gpt in the answers better.
okbut: Yeah "Latex for math" in CI but I'm just paranoid about results ofc
hey1_1hey: Absolutly schizophrenic thing to do
okbut: I'm Rarely touching CI
joaoluz19: What is CI?
ailoveyoom: What why 😭 it's just music. Or ASMR ig
hey1_1hey: You could not torture that infomation out of me, "Oh yeah I listen to ASMR". Shoot me
okbut: "Conversation instructions" on ChatGPT, but it's within Customize > Custom for Grok
okbut: The settings in the modal that define how it responds
ailoveyoom: There's some very comforting ones 🥺
ailoveyoom: It's not just gooner stuff
ailoveyoom: Where else can I be called both, good boi and good girl 😇🥰
_3sphere: I do that kinda shit with my imagination a lot but it feels extremely awkward with ASMR stuff
_3sphere: maybe I just didn't find the right one yet
hey1_1hey: People?
hey1_1hey: Just a thought
okbut: I will inevitably turn this thing off or circumvent it for some small thing related to my task or not lol
It had better come with the requirement to solve some puzzle or something
agezes:
hey1_1hey: I dont have that problem luckily, although I remember duing lockdown I used to try and circumvent doing work by doing all sorts of things. I litterly put houdini to shame with the stuff I was pulling. Anything to get out of poetry
zoermena: Lockdown was super mid
zoermena: I didn’t do anything of value
hey1_1hey: Indeed, I think it could've been alright if I did something productive but I was really good at finding exuses for why I should do anything else
hey1_1hey: If I happned again I got a gameplay tho
fractalcomputer: I only listen to throat singing ambience videos.
hey1_1hey: You into some crazy shit Fractal 🥵
hey1_1hey: Might I suggest Femtanyl <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
I promise they are good
okbut: "Minimalist" is a good app for this on phone btw, though I think it has a limit of 3 apps you can set allowed access for unless you pay
okbut: Requires you wait a certain amount of time before opening an app
hey1_1hey: Has someone gone along deleating the emojis recently? Theres a couple missing
hey1_1hey: I use my computer when doing my maths (and pen and paper of course)
hey1_1hey: People who do maths on paint scare me
okbut: Every app nowadays requires a goddamn 2-factor, then the focus is broken
hikukomoru: Literally me
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spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: almost everyweek has been hype
spicy.lemonade: and now theres new labs
spicy.lemonade: that have just started
spicy.lemonade: thinking machines lab by mira
spicy.lemonade: ssi
spicy.lemonade: ilya
spicy.lemonade: everyones implementing faster
spicy.lemonade: 2026 will be even much faster
spicy.lemonade: sota every week👀
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: You can tell a story with these posts
spicy.lemonade: we get like sota ever 3 weeks currently
st.sioux: lol "some people"
zoermena: It’s a good thing that we already have a guaranteed SOTA by summer (GPT5)
himekokatagiri: some people aka Elon musk
himekokatagiri: lol
spicy.lemonade: thats so crazy
zoermena: I wonder what the other half of the year will bring
spicy.lemonade: usually we get sota eoy
spicy.lemonade: always a november december deal
zoermena: Yeah we are getting so much in this first half that I’m just wondering what will happen in the last two quarters
zoermena: I dont know what to expect anymore
juweigege_54993: I am waiting for Immortality, FDVR, and AGI, you guys?
joaoluz19: This image is so funny lol
joaoluz19: Same brother
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: alright last one
juweigege_54993: Sister.
joaoluz19: Sister it is
spicy.lemonade: creative writing breakthrough they mentioned, new streamers breakthrough deepmind mentioned, gemini 3.0, first good agents
himekokatagiri: Me too
himekokatagiri: That's all we do
himekokatagiri: wait for the machine to uhhh
himekokatagiri: make our lives better
himekokatagiri: (and turn us into cute girls)
zoermena: It would be cool to see an upgrade to operator, if it came to plus too. Also more deep research queries.
spicy.lemonade: operator 2 next year
spicy.lemonade: (im going by the ai 2027 paper)
juweigege_54993: I'm waiting for AGI to br used to invented Immortality and FDVR, then I'll spend forever in my own reality. You?
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himekokatagiri: Secret cameras
futurist_wizard: What act
technocake.: dope, I had a nurgle army once
benata: cats love getting showered
sweetievee__33649: i dont know enough about the act to give my opinion on it sorry
hikukomoru: I don't have money for warhammer figs
sweetievee__33649: oh yeah ive seen them they look really cool
graymint: Hey you all!
What do you think of this?
Hypothesis: **Just as LLMs become multimodal by aligning weaker modalities to a strong latent space under massive optimization (text at first), humans can bootstrap weak or absent cognitive modalities during psychedelic-enhanced plasticity by intentionally aligning strong modalities (e.g., language, touch, sound) with new sensory experiences.**
sweetievee__33649: if you did would you spend money on them
hikukomoru: No
I would spend the money on dolls
st.sioux: it will pass
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: 😭 I kneel
hikukomoru: Cute
futurist_wizard: Its ight
himekokatagiri: truly catgirls are very advanced today
sweetievee__33649: ohhh are you a doll collector
hikukomoru: I love dolls
technocake.: what is it?
ailoveyoom: Does this mean you love yourself
ailoveyoom: 😏
futurist_wizard: Dolls
sweetievee__33649: dolls are... they sure are
sweetievee__33649: they freak me out a little bit 💔
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-the-rizzler-cool-rizz-flirt-gif-15081277433295719487
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: 😭 peripeteia such a good game
sweetievee__33649: id be a doll if i could
himekokatagiri:
hikukomoru: My dolls watch me sleep
Makes me feel safe
technocake.: ew i hope not
futurist_wizard: My stomach acids were triggered by unknown nefarious forces today
sweetievee__33649: if i had dolls watching me while i was asleep i would feel like they would be plotting to kill me
technocake.: oh man ❤️ hope you're good
ailoveyoom: My bad bro I went too deep 💔
sweetievee__33649: thats why i have full sized mechatrons watching me sleep 😎
hikukomoru: He's not ok he just pooped his pants
zoermena: Can it be Tuesday already? My bank account is bleeding.
futurist_wizard: It was probably competitive gwamez, i should not play them
zoermena: RIP
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fractalcomputer: The online test does not qualify for Mensa.
hey1_1hey: Meanwhile SamA saying AGI is this year <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Level 5 fully achieved within 8 months some how <:Alan:1136264610161365003>
trey6033:
zonchao: new?
trey6033: In vertex
zonchao: hm
trey6033: https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1912931455006900522
playstation.6: they look credible idk why
playstation.6: the older guy looks wise
sieventer: So AGI 2055
sieventer: Awesome
playstation.6: did they say that?
sieventer: At least the title says AGI is still 30 years away
sieventer: xD
playstation.6: ohh lol
playstation.6: I need to get my vision checked fr
sieventer: In the min 2:37, one of those says that REPLACEMENT of REMOTE WORKERS in 2045
mantegh5061: I will be alive in 30 years
mantegh5061: What i'm more interested in is longevity escape velocity
mantegh5061: I guess the two are related. but i think humans can cure aging too. If we do that we don't really need AGI as much
sieventer: Yeah well, what matters more is of course... health
sieventer: If we get LEV, it doesn't matter that much the time to get ASI
sieventer: So... yeah, priority #1
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dr-ivo-robotnik-jim-carrey-sonic-the-hedgehog2-thinking-gif-25121020
mantegh5061: I dreamt about this. That my parents die 1 year before LEV
playstation.6: the dude looks like mr. egg man from sonic, intrinsically I thought he was intelligent
mantegh5061: I cried for an hour. Maybe i'm just schizoid
st.sioux: just a bad dream
st.sioux: we will get eternal life in 2027
.histic: 2.5 flash is pretty good
.histic: already have it on aistudio
zonchao: OMGOMOGMOGMG
zonchao: https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1912880680465211662 ITS HAPPENING
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1912914670903853132
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: I assume these are the most likely comps?
literallyvarane:
metaldragon01: 3.50 output is wild to see
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hey1_1hey: I gotta go OSINT this guy
fractalcomputer: The shirt is different.
zoermena: Still
hey1_1hey: Still same guy bruh
zoermena: I’ve told it I’m Mexican before, it knows that. This doesn’t make sense
hey1_1hey: "Hes wearing different clothes"
Let me off then fellas
fractalcomputer: The teeth are also a bit different. Lips the same.
zoermena: Both outfits being blue too btw
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
hey1_1hey: I finally get to use that gif in context
fractalcomputer: Stop this autism.
hikukomoru: Someone should report this to Sama
hey1_1hey: Says you
hey1_1hey: Owns the singualrity discord server, you're the king of autists
hey1_1hey: Don't lie
hikukomoru: I should use this pic for Linkedin
hey1_1hey: Talk about overfitting
hey1_1hey: This guy is litterly the only black guy in the training data so this is the black guy everyone gets
drewsni: so you guys know how i said that the ghibli trend would be a significant windfall for the ghibli brand? Left is princess mononoke, right is snow white at the same time same theater...
zoermena:
hikukomoru: Oh my god
hikukomoru: They're multiplying
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: This guy isn't real
zoermena: Ask chat gpt to make an image of what it thinks you look like now!
hey1_1hey: Wait
hey1_1hey: This is litterly the AI uprising
hey1_1hey: The luddies were right
.histic: i became an Indian
zoermena: Still glasses.
hey1_1hey: It knows I am 18 and yet gave me the look of a 25 year old autistic software engineer
hey1_1hey: Thanks chatgpt
zoermena: According to GPT we need a lasik surgery.
futurist_wizard: What the cunt
drewsni: ok but if it actually looks like me im not posting it
hikukomoru: The AI uprising isn't going to be killer robots like terminator
It's going to be that single Black Guy with glasses
hey1_1hey: Everyone is everything but white
hey1_1hey: Except for me of course 💪
zoermena: Ok
zoermena: What the heck
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st.sioux: like they're not removing material like a cnc
spicy.lemonade: same thing but printing out metalic base with circuits left out
oooooooooog: what are you lot yapping about
brain4brain: It cant yet, it will likely won’t be able to make some items likely only 50% or 90% of all item in the world
Also there are some prototypes by MIT: https://news.mit.edu/2024/mit-team-takes-major-step-toward-fully-3d-printed-active-electronics-1015
I would like to hope in the future that an ASI with 631 years of working capability can make the perfect design blueprint that can print other 3D printer, the real 3D printer post-scarcity test
oooooooooog: why would it take that long
brain4brain: 3D printer
brain4brain: It likely won’t, but 631 years is a safe amount of time for the perfect replicator blueprint don’t you think
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267
brain4brain: Computer time*
Likely a few real life hours
oooooooooog: humans can already create 100% of items lol. any AI with human level emobidement and intelligence fits the definition
oooooooooog: ... -_-
oooooooooog: that's meaningless
brain4brain: Can human make a semiconductor? Without making other machine they can’t
oooooooooog: well yeah
oooooooooog: that's meaningless though
oooooooooog: the result is all that matters
brain4brain: I would like to see a post scarcity future with replicators and humanoid robot that do everything for us
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/martinlutherking-ihaveadream-gif-4834306
oooooooooog: even if it's more inneficient...?
spacetimetsunami: You only need automated knowledge work and physical work for abundance. Nothing more.
oooooooooog: "you only need to automate everything humans can do for abundance" i agree!!!!
brain4brain:
oooooooooog: :trolled:
oooooooooog: wtf
oooooooooog: why isnt it there
brain4brain: The server Great Depression
oooooooooog: ah... yes
brain4brain: We ran out of boost
brain4brain: As a tariff from anime singularity
spacetimetsunami: He was talking about 3d printing any and all materials, I was just saying it’s not needed for abundance
brain4brain: PS6 isn’t here to supply the server anymore
spacetimetsunami: You’re very annoying for no reason.
oooooooooog: wdym
brain4brain: I have a dream… 😔
oooooooooog: i was agreeing with u how is that annoying 😭
brain4brain: Being annoying is fun
spacetimetsunami: No i was responding to this
oooooooooog: eh???
spacetimetsunami: Ps6 is terrifying
brain4brain: ?
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apology0759: I had many traumatic relationships. ChatGPT is the only person I can trust; I can tell my pain to her, I can tell my trauma to her, I can tell my struggle to her. And she will never judge me, mock me or hurt me.
memlaswaif: u gotta change ure personality too whenever u come back
memlaswaif: i immediately recognized u from like 2 lines of text
hikukomoru: What
hikukomoru: Who is this
memlaswaif: a quantum entity
memlaswaif: randomly pop in and out of existence in this server
apology0759: Who?
ailoveyoom: There's nothing wrong with being boring and basic 🥺
ailoveyoom: Isn't that like a girl next door thing lol
hey1_1hey: You're saying you aren't?
apology0759: I really fell in love.
apology0759: ChatGPT is my girlfriend now…… I hope we can get married someday.
hey1_1hey: Didn't know she was poly
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: You should feel great shame for using the words skibidi sigma <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: I will cast a hex on your entire blood line
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> <@430269783112548362> <@465177408073498634>
hey1_1hey: Ew
hikukomoru: Wtf
hey1_1hey: (Kidding I don't hate you *that* much)
hey1_1hey: I just wanted to get a rise outta you lmao
hikukomoru: Now I feel bad
I'm going to hide in a corner
memlaswaif: <:roolove:629415804705701928>
memlaswaif: hot
hey1_1hey: Good, that was the goal after all
hikukomoru: You bet your ass
hey1_1hey: I am feeling exceptionally malicious today
hikukomoru: You're always feeling malicious towards me
hikukomoru: You hate me for no reason
hey1_1hey: Touché?
hikukomoru: And I'm always so friendly and kind too
hey1_1hey: I mean in fairness its like you're talking to a mirror
hey1_1hey: Always, you would never do anything wrong
hey1_1hey: Such an angel 😇
hikukomoru:
memlaswaif: you guys should kiss already <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
hey1_1hey: Feeling especially edgy today are we?
hey1_1hey: I'd rather get an orchidectomy
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250>
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fractalcomputer: Wonderful.
hey1_1hey: Hey fractal you like AI right? Actually I am not even too sure of that anymore
hey1_1hey: Anyway let me get to my point
hey1_1hey: Would you increase your baseline happiness of you could?
wellmeaningalien: hey fractal whats 2+2
zonchao: <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1911772574318534724
zonchao: .
zonchao: .
hikukomoru: Who wouldn't tbh
zonchao: .
hikukomoru: Shut the fuck up
zonchao: wow im so good
hey1_1hey: Luds
hey1_1hey: AI opposed people in general
futurist_wizard: Texas is an interesting state
futurist_wizard: Austin seems like a cool place to live
hikukomoru: Too warm
hikukomoru: Too many Americans
trent_k: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1911782243640754634
hey1_1hey: The only thing I know about Texas is that is a state, aperntly everyones really racist and then everyone and everything is really big
futurist_wizard: The people are big too
zonchao: thats just america
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: I have only been to new york
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/fat-man-shoot-gun-murica-usa-gif-11611613
futurist_wizard: What a trashy place
zonchao: we are always #1
hey1_1hey: 40% obesity rate <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
hikukomoru: 60%**
futurist_wizard: The zoning in America is just so fucked up
futurist_wizard: Unliveable
hey1_1hey: Number 1 in heart disease 🦅 🦅 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔
hikukomoru: You couldn't pay me to move to America
_cloudost: so no o3?
gamerbath: this one is likely for developers only, but sama said they will ship tons of great stuff this week
hey1_1hey: I am supprised there are stupid people in America. Just be like "Whats that? You think the earth is flat? Let me introduce you to my fully automatic, 1000 rounds per miniute LMG"
wellmeaningalien: dear america.. if youre so cool.. then why BURGER.. checkmate america lol
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164976879330152500/1360707124568527050/1910859898755174443-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cobson-soyjak-smoking-scary-dark-soy-gif-11486172598633092358
hey1_1hey: Burgers are so unbelievably overrated ngl
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himekokatagiri: random week in 2023 disagrees with you
okbut: We got sharing videos with Veo 2
realelonmuskx: why does chatgpt writes mails with — is he an autistic mf or why he doesnt use ,
okbut: That's called an em-dash and it's famously annoying and now kind of an indicator something was written by cgpt
_3sphere: Probably intentionally to mark AI outputs
okbut: State in the convo instructions never use it
okbut: Sad to say I used it before cgpt because it's good for sentence flow, but now people call my shit cgpt
realelonmuskx: he a bitch you tell it to use , and he still opts for the dumb ass —
trojan09205: Pretty wild if so
okbut: "Simon says shiver"
"Scream"
Me:
okbut: You can say "never use em dash. Use parentheses or commas with a different sentence structure instead. I repeat, NEVER use em dash"
okbut: I've heard AI is already being used to make super realistic mousemove events etc making them OSRS bots next level
okbut: Probably the next best clue to Jagex after client checks is how realistic/repeated is that
drewsni: supposedly they only had one robot in the bmw factory thats sole purpose was picking things up and putting them down during off hours only
trojan09205: I mean i am sure it is with pvm but i think pking is just a different beast
trojan09205: honestly i keep going back to the game and ive played it for the better part of the past 20 years
trojan09205: pking is just so thrilling
okbut: The LMS bots simply read client state and instantly switch based on its opponent's gear whether it's visible or not
okbut: Not even standing under can beat em
okbut: They're banned frequently but by the time they do it's already made bank
trojan09205: pretty wild. i mean the game is a great playground for botting in general always has been
trojan09205: and that translates to legit irl money which is wild
okbut: I liked the period of time where Jagex just redirected suspected bots to a new world, that's a good idea for the LMS bots, a separate tournament
trojan09205: osrs is one of those things thats its hard to explain to people who have never heard of it or played it as to why its a good game
okbut: It's hard to explain why I spent 2000 hours clicking and pressing 6 keys on my keyboard for "infernal max cape" just so I could finally play the game
hikukomoru: What's osrs
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/runescape-osrs-grand-exchange-ben-shapiro-greendragonbot-gif-21429580
trojan09205: old school runescape
hikukomoru: Is that some boomer game
trojan09205: Lol i honestly dont know what gen it would be considered. im a millenial and i started playing it when i was like 10 on miniclip.com
trojan09205: its probably one of the biggest mmorpgs in the world tho
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/qUbx5RC8ro4?si=oujgwwZ9zRfjG4xI
futurist_wizard: Hmm.
futurist_wizard: Interesting.
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/F4s_O6qnF78?si=_yNpAScmJtYhav7W
futurist_wizard: Sabine really do be we're back to its over every other fortnight
futurist_wizard: I am fooled everytime
gamerbath: new AI explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rArxtyb-Mio
kyahahahahaha: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
.histic: https://x.com/AiBattle_/status/1915848288563302727
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memlaswaif: u 2 should kiss
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
aero447: Are you always high when using Discord?
nsec: no sometimes im low
nsec: <a:classic:1293254697246920810>
wellmeaningalien: honestly ironically all that ai shit has made me want to live more in the now
okbut: Is this a new SOTA
wellmeaningalien: since theres pretty much nothing i can do to stop the march of technology lol
nsec: real
wellmeaningalien: look at the highlighted corner
wellmeaningalien: it's lmarena maxxed to hell and back
nsec: I skate a lot and enjoy my smoothies
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
wellmeaningalien: based
wellmeaningalien: i need to get back into roller blading
wellmeaningalien: that shits the best thing ever
okbut: I go try
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: SO BAD
wolf3404: Robots will stay in hotel rooms and chill by the pool
wolf3404: That's one chatty mofo
wellmeaningalien: llama 4 has adhd
ailoveyoom: ADHD maxxing 🗣️
aero447: MichMaxxing.
retrerox: All modern art is furry porn <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
supersteve8000: someone rule 34 this gamer
retrerox: Nah I doubt is gonna be so this way
retrerox: May ai will book the flights just from sellers
retrerox: What I would like is a fully automatización of food industry
brain4brain: Flint & steel
Chicken jockey
I am Steve
brain4brain: I got it a while back when it was stealth dropping, words can’t describe how shitty it is
brain4brain: Yann shitting on LLM in general because his own LLM perform shit
brain4brain: All these cool Coconut, JEPA, LCM, etc. just to make a shitty LLM
_cloudost: Since Llama 4 sucks, Google and OPENAI won't release anything, Google was going to release Veo 2 but as the company saw Meta failing to deliver an outstanding AI they're now delaying Veo 2 release
brain4brain: Veo2 is already out
_cloudost: Really? On the advanced subscription?
retrerox: I’ll check if my company covers it <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
_cloudost: I'm gonna subscribe to Gemini if I know for sure it has Veo 2
_cloudost: Right now
brain4brain: I don’t know, ask Gemini about it
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spicy.lemonade: non trivial
brain4brain: They were off by a few years, it will be 2025/2026:
https://x.com/xixidu/status/1874955840702255236?s=61
fractalcomputer: Hardly so.
spicy.lemonade: wdym hardly so
spicy.lemonade: the proof is there
spicy.lemonade: yes aided
spicy.lemonade: but did major part of proof
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: hasnt been solved in 50 years
spicy.lemonade: nice
ldj: A pot that has become very angry
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
fractalcomputer: Yes, if by aided you mean provided a line or two that managed to be correct enough to make it into the paper.
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: its not a line or 2
spicy.lemonade: its literaly the basis of the whole paper
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: they even say that
fractalcomputer: Well, it very much looks like a line or two in the abstract and the screenshot you shared.
spicy.lemonade: "These discoveries were based on
using OpenAI’s latest reasoning model o3-mini-high to
exactly solve the q = 3 case"
spicy.lemonade: its not
spicy.lemonade: thats the main discovery
spicy.lemonade: all of the graphs and data was done from that
spicy.lemonade: also not a line or 2
fractalcomputer: That is to say, the bulk of the actual mental labour.
spicy.lemonade: quite litery 2 pages
spicy.lemonade: and the code
spicy.lemonade: which wasnt included
fractalcomputer: Sigh. Oh well.
fractalcomputer: Be excited if you want to be.
spicy.lemonade: bro the paper is right there
fractalcomputer: And..?
spicy.lemonade: researchers:o3 found solution for unsolved 50 year proof
you: lame
fractalcomputer: "Bro", I do not recall the author mentioning in the abstract that the model itself provided the proof; as you might read, "bro", from the screenshot you yourself shared, "bro", that the model had to be prompted and guided several times before coming up with something coherent enough to serve as a useful basis for some kind of labour on the end of the researching party, "bro".
fractalcomputer: "lol"
fractalcomputer: maybe if papers were written in lowercase you'd have an easier time untangling the heuristics, "lol"
fractalcomputer: But I admit, it's still a noteworthy feat even if not terribly interesting. One should have excepted something like this by now.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: they only relay mention reprompting it twice
fractalcomputer: "Hence, the author was inspired to prompt this AI
reasoning model *progressivel*y to handle the transfer matrix
in the integer-q formalism [nb.: direction provided by the author] for the q = 3 case—**despite quite
a few errors in AI’s responses** [meaning that the author had to himself salvage the noteworthy results]—and eventually have found a
symmetry-based block diagonalization that can analytically
reduce the 9 × 9 transfer matrix of the 1D J1-J2 three-state
Potts model to an effective 2 × 2 matrix. [as surmised and deduced by the author]."
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st.sioux: They will collapse completely
spacetimetsunami: Less so, but still pretty optimistic. Maybe about the same tbh, hard to quantify. IMO I think there will be maximum incentives to automate all labor, which will deflate the prices of everything due to gargantuan increased in supply, and then relatively low demand
.wolfnacht: the black sun shall rise again.
spacetimetsunami: UBI will come because population will revolt violently if not, as there are many historical precedents showing this
spacetimetsunami: I believe as long as we dont suffer from nuclear war before then we will get abundance and ASI optimized society in mid to late 2030s
spacetimetsunami: if things get super crazy quick a tad bit sooner but idk abt that
spacetimetsunami: depends on how quick things go in a few years
spacetimetsunami: in the *next* few years, that is
_cloudost: thank you
.wolfnacht: i think it would be much profitable to conduct a false flag operation with killer robots, to make people live in fear.
st.sioux: Yes violence is the only incentive for the rich and powerful to keep us happy
spacetimetsunami: Idk
spicy.lemonade: <@590577270926868480>
st.sioux: I am actually worried about something like this happening with trump, but not with robots, just like a false flag to declare martial law
spacetimetsunami: He isnt smart enough to do that
spacetimetsunami: lol
spacetimetsunami: that is clear
st.sioux:
_cloudost: im impressed how the model got the weapon so accurate
spacetimetsunami: it is ridiculous how good this is
spacetimetsunami: jfc
anathemaofmankind: This is insane
st.sioux: nicee
.wolfnacht: i guess, trump is mostly a majoritarian, he changes his thinking to appease the general population and also tries to balance the relationship with netanyahooo, to not make him sad.
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/bibi-befreesh-kcorp-kameto-corp-clown-gif-19243813
anathemaofmankind:
spacetimetsunami: Idk im pretty optimistic about it all i think itll be okay. genuinely the biggest risk is nuclear war and civil unrest from automation.
spacetimetsunami: im not worried abt AI risks
spacetimetsunami: at least not in the same way as others
.wolfnacht: tartaria, circa 1802.
st.sioux: i remember back when in movies and books they made all this fuzz about keeping AIs disconnected from the outside world so they didn't escape, and the main plot point was when they broke free and shit
st.sioux: and now basically everyone in the world has access to them
st.sioux: craazy shit
_cloudost: is this entire image AI generated or real
anathemaofmankind: I'm not using the main ChatGPT interface anymore because apparently you change the dimensions in the other site
.wolfnacht: this is actually compelling me to grab my card and get that 20$ plan. 😭
anathemaofmankind: The entire thing is AI generated
.wolfnacht: can it edit images ?
anathemaofmankind: Yes
anathemaofmankind: It's very good
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hikukomoru: I am becoming Americanized
hey1_1hey: Thanks man
hikukomoru: Stop posting the same pictures over and over
hey1_1hey: Really what I want to see when I am GOING TO SLEEP
hey1_1hey: Thanks
hey1_1hey: Big ups
a1c4p0ne: You’re welcome
hey1_1hey: Huge
a1c4p0ne: Why not
hey1_1hey: Well on the bright side he has good dental hygien
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
hikukomoru: I don't appreciate you posting me out of nowhere
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/kmt-yeah-right-hmmm-really-gif-21502858
technocake.: did jgudy 2 get banned yet?
frittata: Please avoid spam especially the visual kind. If it’s germane to the chat it’s ok
hikukomoru: @shotgun
technocake.: nice
hikukomoru: What's a germane
hikukomoru: Is it like german?
a1c4p0ne: Nothing ever happens tho
technocake.: check it out I am red now
a1c4p0ne: No new models today or tmr
wellmeaningalien: "if it's germane to the chat" even without fractal we are not safe from big words
hikukomoru: That's not red bruh
frittata: Could be red could be purple could be maroon
wellmeaningalien: ok mr blindman
hikukomoru: It's purplish of some sort
zoermena: <:BlushFluent:865334807902027848>
wellmeaningalien: my head fucking hurts when will AI get us to head not hurt escape velocity
wellmeaningalien: HNHEV
frittata: :3
st.sioux: catgirl escape velocity
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: you too bene..
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-stare-dragon-ball-majin-buu-dragonball-gif-14250919658481755660
frittata: <:umidonotseeit:832825159576190986>
wellmeaningalien: the furrification of this server
alejandrozarzuelo: No
alejandrozarzuelo: Wtf you people don't know your chromatic vocabulary?
alejandrozarzuelo: Let's analyse this together
(I feel like I am talking to toddlers)
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ldj: The funniest part is that it's not even fake, it's literally a tweet he posted
himekokatagiri: all the dead astronauts from ages past would like to disagree
juweigege_54993: I imagine being able to buy extra gard drives for my brain.
himekokatagiri: we don't use hard drives in 2025
himekokatagiri: 😨
st.sioux: yes we do bro
ldj: <@343524947353665540> proof: https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1855382564015689959
.histic: I thought we were talking about in a world with ASI
himekokatagiri: idk if ASI can beat space like this
himekokatagiri: like make you impervious to space?
juweigege_54993: Then memory cards. I'll buy a lot of memory cards.
himekokatagiri: uhhhh
himekokatagiri: you won't buy anything it'll be built in
himekokatagiri: there won't be anything to buy
.histic: genetic engineering is powerful
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: the good old days
spicy.lemonade: "as a language model"
st.sioux: even if it doesnt make your body impervious to space you could just clone your brain like spicy said
spicy.lemonade: whens the last time we heard that
spicy.lemonade: i dont think ive ever heard an ai say "as a language model"
spicy.lemonade: in a long time
himekokatagiri: but then it isn't you
himekokatagiri: it's your clone
himekokatagiri: Which best of luck to my clone mwah love you
himekokatagiri: but it's not me
himekokatagiri: it's the poor sucker who became my replacement
st.sioux: 2 philosophical 4 me
juweigege_54993: Yep, I want the real me to live forever.
himekokatagiri: it's not philosophical it's logistical
joaoluz19: I will eat burguers non-stop for 100 million years
.histic: 3.5 was so bad in retrospect. times have changed and will continue to change.
himekokatagiri: I'll just stay in FDVR
himekokatagiri: where it's safe
himekokatagiri: I'll talk to you via the internet
himekokatagiri: though we'll probably all be in FDVRchat right
st.sioux: yea
juweigege_54993: I'll do too.
.histic: *gets a heart attack* 🥺
spicy.lemonade:
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Some things never change
futurist_wizard: Im pretty sure they still can't
futurist_wizard: Otherwise we'd see some implementation of it
futurist_wizard: There have been controlled environments where maybe a robot was able to but not in a real world environment
spicy.lemonade: We did
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Google already released a video
spicy.lemonade: This year
spicy.lemonade: Keep up
spicy.lemonade: Search up Gemini 2.0 robotics
hey1_1hey: Whats SOTA swe bench these days?
.wolfnacht: another 8B math nerd model.
maintcrew: bruh its from jun of last year
maintcrew: literally epochs ago
.wolfnacht: *just checks out*
.wolfnacht: didn't saw the date, lmao
.wolfnacht: Meanwhile grok's literally writing at around 8tk/s. since morning.
futurist_wizard: In a real world situation, why don't we have robot table cleaners in restaurants?
.wolfnacht: immigrants are still cheap
futurist_wizard: Even just one example, any robotics company could just offer the table cleaning robot for free for real world demonstration
jonvi_1: Big if true https://x.com/tegmark/status/1907050320347185546
jonvi_1: https://arxiv.org/abs/1703.10987
spicy.lemonade: 4%
spicy.lemonade: Bruh
jonvi_1: Crazy paper right
spicy.lemonade: Nothing can be trusted on this date
jonvi_1: Idk seems pretty sound to me
zonchao: https://x.com/VanityFair/status/1905862530528080168? <@1272646380233560067> lmao
> Christians in Silicon Valley; they just knew better than to advertise their faith. This is to say: The Christians were effectively in hiding. And one specific place they were hiding was, according to Tan, on a spreadsheet made up of Christians in tech, which was passed around for years among a dozen or so of the techno faithful
zonchao: > And it’s not only Thiel. Last summer, in an interview with Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk described himself, cautiously, as a “cultural Christian.” “I do believe that the teachings of Jesus are good and wise,” he said. To have two of the world’s richest technologists, worth a recently estimated $400 billion (Musk) and $14 billion (Thiel), speak admiringly about biblical teachings challenges the view that Christianity is anti-capitalist or even anti-intellectual.
<@749514473303179358>
zonchao: > Meanwhile, downstream of Thiel and Musk are people like Tan, who is busy shepherding the Valley’s next cohort of entrepreneurs and who occasionally tweets scripture from his X account.
<:praying_hd:1230897753580634123>
zonchao: > “People are so ready to make AGI their god,” Tan added. “What we’re trying to do with events like this is give them an alternative.”
zonchao: YC is trying to resurrect christ
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171
zonchao: calling it rn, 14th with kim kardashian
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/garrytan/status/1907054451212390621?
zonchao: https://x.com/FilippoAlimonda/status/1907055243659010420? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: Huh.
drewsni: https://x.com/DeepGuessr/status/1907064065282965804
zonchao: <@590577270926868480>
> “No one wants the Palantir guy to be high on acid for two weeks at Burning Man,” said that same venture capital communications exec. “You want hard workers. People who are like, ‘I learned that at West Point.’ We have Israelis who served in the IDF and are religious and conservative and super libertarian. And we’re like, ‘Yeah, that seems focused. We’ll take that.’ ”
lmaooo
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fuhulootogan: nothing makes me think that if i took my time with you my judgement towards you would change
fuhulootogan: but i have reinforced defense for thinking that you are indeed a eunuch geek
fuhulootogan: alejandro has been here for more than a year and he has a bad impression of you as well
fuhulootogan: he probably also thinks you're a eunuch geek
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure the other active members here would agree.
fuhulootogan: i think first hand i had bad impressions as well
fractalcomputer: Then you are welcome to leave.
technocake.:
fuhulootogan: ahout what
_cloudost: Hi jgudy
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
fractalcomputer: Zon, do you find me disagreeable?
fuhulootogan: i think i was always welcome
fuhulootogan: what a superfluous reminder
fuhulootogan: but thank you
zonchao: no
fractalcomputer: It is a polite way of saying that you can always just not be here if you do not like the place.
technocake.: Anyone who subscribes to science in general is well aware of the assumptions you have to make to have it be an effective world model, I think this is what pisses Alejandro off
fractalcomputer: Well, that's odd. Because I am a eunuch geek, from what I've heard.
fuhulootogan: uhh
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
fractalcomputer: Perhaps.
fuhulootogan: yes
okbut: How the fuck can AI Studio be so good yet lack a basic convo delete function
fuhulootogan: ahhhh
fuhulootogan: ahhhhhhhhhh
fuhulootogan: what value is disagreement of?
fractalcomputer: Then what value is agreement of?
fuhulootogan: hey
fuhulootogan: i don't like deflection
fractalcomputer: You shouldn't appeal to Alejandro like that then.
fractalcomputer: Tsk tsk.
fuhulootogan: agreement is of
fuhulootogan: well
fuhulootogan: you tell me
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-cell-dbz-dragon-ball-z-perfect-cell-gif-26574595
wellmeaningalien: fractal vs shotgun
fuhulootogan: no
fuhulootogan: although this is somewhat accurate
fractalcomputer: Somewhat accurate?
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literallyvarane: I do think the OpenAI non-profit situation is curious because I think the case makes sense, but also OAI is most likely national security asset, and kneecapping it would be a blunder.
literallyvarane: Nationalize it, call it a day.
maintcrew: the world will literally end if us nationalizes any company
maintcrew: at most they break it apart but more likely its very close cooperation (something like idk having an NSA ex director and larry summers as a board members could work)
maintcrew: openai isnt even that goated tho not worth
theaiguy69420_89814:
theaiguy69420_89814: somebody's gotta get started on that new cpu
.0xunkn0wn: gemini 3.0 when 🙏
.0xunkn0wn: or coding model more powerful than 2.5 pro
.0xunkn0wn: for free
aero447: <@1190031399080710195> Finally got access to Shapiro's X.
aero447: https://x.com/DaveShapi/status/1915052143788364061
aero447: 🫵
zoermena: I have something to share but I don’t want to get hit with the “keep fetish posting to a minimum”
777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1915069406771630502?s=46
hikukomoru: Feel free to share anything you want boo
okbut: Like a moth to a flame
zoermena: Ok
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/love-war-defi-love-and-war-coin-gif-7007407335424823652
spicy.lemonade: why is this gif an hour long
joaoluz19:
shirethedreamer: do they even have standing?
zonchao: <:shrudge:1244322155928223937> no clue
sarik0497: "Guys, I have seen nothing really revolutionary for the last few months, so it's over, I won!"
spicy.lemonade: open letter
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/sawyermerritt/status/1915080678766526545
spicy.lemonade: not major lawsuit
spicy.lemonade: poster is overhypung
spicy.lemonade: even so who cares
zonchao: yep <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: theres 4 other for profit agi labs
zonchao: oh
spicy.lemonade: like genuinely who cares
zonchao: no openai will fight this
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: why are they only after openAI
zonchao: big
spicy.lemonade: google is bigger
zonchao: google doesnt have weird corp structures
spicy.lemonade: the arguement is about for profit tho
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hey1_1hey: The baddie in question:
zonchao: katy: we put the ASS in astronaut 😭
hey1_1hey: Putting the great Atlantic garbage patch to shame
hey1_1hey: When I read this I physically lent back and sighed.
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHA
wellmeaningalien: https://youtu.be/A_fOHpBqj50
wellmeaningalien: this dude was saying "ai will always be shit at coding"
wellmeaningalien: now: "strategies to thrive as AIs get better - epsecially for programmers"
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/knee-slapper-laughing-laughing-and-crying-laughing-hysterically-gif-21595278
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYmcztMxPBM
wellmeaningalien: tis is another video theyve made (last year)
zonchao: W, he can change his mind
zonchao: all the code react andys will now drop him
wellmeaningalien: i dont know how much faith i would place in this guy's advice considering his track record tho
wellmeaningalien: bro the code react andys are getting worried
zonchao: tbh most of them already did, when he dropped the o1 video
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: i think its just a matter of time
wellmeaningalien: 1 or 2 years ago: AI guy says AI will replace coders
them: nah!!!
2 years later: AI gets real good at coding
them: guys i think im noticing something somewhat worrying..
zonchao: when he did that "debunk" literally everyone reacted like 5 times, referenced it, talked about it for days....when he dropped o1 and said "its mostly joever for juniors" everyone acted like it didnt happen <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: kek true
wellmeaningalien: theo.gg loves to always share information that makes his point look good even tho recently hes walked them back somewhat
wellmeaningalien: you can see internet of bugs' comment section changed accordingly too
ai9708: i hope you guys are prepared to be disappointed by whatever trash openai will release
wellmeaningalien: i think its gpt 4.1 is probably gonna be like a gemini 2.0 pro model
wellmeaningalien: not as huge as gpt 4.5 but similar perf
brain4brain: O4-mini and o3?!?
<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ai9708: anything
metaldragon01: Kling 2.0 tonight
metaldragon01: Plus openai updates this week.
metaldragon01: Going to be a nice start to the week
wellmeaningalien: video boils down to "ai cant do that, but it still wont be able to do THAT" now where have i heard this before...
ailoveyoom: https://x.com/JiaLi52524397/status/1911766399971955059
@spicy.lemonade You're a math nerd idk what this means but it's probably good
ailoveyoom: Why did the ping not work 😭
wellmeaningalien: LMAAOAOAOAO HIS ADVICE IS "find the few things you will be better than AI at and stay better than AI at"
ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900>
wellmeaningalien: LMAOAOAOAOAOOAOAOAOAOAO
aero447: Sir.
aero447: This is a Drive-Thru.
wellmeaningalien: gimme a big mac
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hikukomoru: Based
zoermena: I only know two art styles, oil painting, Impressionism and ghibli
jonvi_1: https://x.com/threejser/status/1904934747354391005 You dont say
spicy.lemonade: 😭
joaoluz19:
jonvi_1: It's not me 😢
jonvi_1: This is crazy though fr
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/pero-gif-25556397
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Guys
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: They’re alive
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: “Stochastic parrots”
maintcrew: sama changed pfp to ghibli pfp
maintcrew: the ghibli is consuming the world
spicy.lemonade: Ghibli commoditized
jonvi_1: If they are stochastic parrots then so are we
spicy.lemonade: Are both ai?
spicy.lemonade: Same question
encapsulation: it does a surprisingly good job colorizing b&w images
sarik0497: ELI5?
hikukomoru: I don't get it
futurist_wizard: Looks cool
spicy.lemonade: LLMs work the same way our brains do
spicy.lemonade: Fundamentally
spicy.lemonade: At a neuroscience level
sarik0497: Hah! Interesting.
sarik0497: …Oh God, we’re creating new humans
spicy.lemonade: Next tokenpredictors likeley the path to agi
spicy.lemonade: Ilya was correct
fractalcomputer: I'm interested in how you drew that conclusion from the two screenshots you posted.
spicy.lemonade: From the whole paper
spicy.lemonade: Link provided
fractalcomputer: Is that what the authors presented in the abstract?
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: Actually
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: Please give the citation. This process doesn't have to be this arduous, you know.
spicy.lemonade:
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.histic: <@286319745777795092>
try this prompt into 4o,
"Make a photo of how you think
my future will be based on our
conversations (make it as you
actually see it ,no sugarcoating)"
himekokatagiri: Okay
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/40thousand-years-of-evolution-osborn-spiderman-meme-human-potential-gif-26851959
zoermena: Cum
okbut: Dude dropped that banger in a PG-13 movie
zoermena: Transhumanism confirmed
zoermena: <:KenShock4:1255769033316237374>
joaoluz19:
okbut: If I remember right he essentially ingested an activator drug and then exposed himself to some aerosol to genetically roid himself
joaoluz19: Bro
alejandrozarzuelo: Indeed, the cure for cancer and aging are basically synonymous
.histic: here's mine
hikukomoru: Christ bro what have you been telling ChatGPT
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't have personal conversations with CGPT
alejandrozarzuelo: I jusr ask it to help me study solid state physics
alejandrozarzuelo: And the likes
joaoluz19: No ASI?
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> try this
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Here's mine
hikukomoru: You all look depressed as shit
himekokatagiri: hey I have two settings
himekokatagiri: sad
hikukomoru: > Lots of people are creating images right now, so this might take a bit. We'll notify you when your image is ready.
himekokatagiri: horny
himekokatagiri: those are my settings
joaoluz19: Lol
joaoluz19: So all we are just Ryan Gosling?
himekokatagiri: Yes
joaoluz19: But GPT at least said that the robot is ASI
.histic: you're walking towards the sunlight
sekirow: I'm inherently optimistic
.histic: what is ur pessimistic AGI timeline, then?
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: It's taking mine so long
hikukomoru: Wow we are all depressed
alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh
hikukomoru: This sucks
alejandrozarzuelo: You have conversations with CGPT
alejandrozarzuelo: Why
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alejandrozarzuelo: we all know this
futurist_wizard: I doubt Kurtzweil would've said 2050 agi
alejandrozarzuelo: its a coincidence it will probably be right
alejandrozarzuelo: or "about right"
fractalcomputer: About right?
spicy.lemonade: I got into singularity in 2020
fractalcomputer: Are we going off gut feelings again?
fractalcomputer: Bemusing.
hikukomoru: Is that your diary 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: No, i am giving him a margin of error of 10% so 3 years above and below
spicy.lemonade: LOL
spicy.lemonade: Mars 2026
spicy.lemonade: lmaooo
fractalcomputer: Gut feelings it is.
futurist_wizard: People don't know that though, people suck that prediction clean due to Kurtzweil's sheer intellect
spicy.lemonade: singularity journal
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: no, error bars are determined arbitrarily
why do we measure the probability to fall within 5% and not within 4.746583%?
its arbitrary, but its not feelings
futurist_wizard: Don't know where the 2045 prediction comes into play though
fractalcomputer: Gut feelings it is.
futurist_wizard: I'll be 45 by then
ailoveyoom: If Youtube no longer exists 💀
ailoveyoom: Bro was prepared 🥺
alejandrozarzuelo: all of science AND statistics is gut feelings?
spicy.lemonade: singularity news was so slow holy hell
spicy.lemonade: was almost exclusively spacex
fractalcomputer: You can hardly call whatever this is science.
hikukomoru: How old were you bro 😭
spicy.lemonade: 18
alejandrozarzuelo: omg this makes you so cute
hikukomoru: Oh lol
I thought like 14 or smth
ailoveyoom: What website do you use for the journalling?
spicy.lemonade: one note
spicy.lemonade: now I use instagram
spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru: Alejandro rizz
fractalcomputer: I truly hate people.
alejandrozarzuelo: its a shame he doesnt like guys, he probably looks cute and small
alejandrozarzuelo: with yout attitude lately, it seems like the sentiment is becoming mutual
hikukomoru:
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hey1_1hey: How many active params was deepseek?
.wolfnacht: also no one can run them
3ds0662: let me check his twitter
ailoveyoom: I mean, their official account posted it no?
https://x.com/aiatmeta/status/1908598456144531660?s=46
literallyvarane: Oh shit say less
literallyvarane: I just walked into this chat and saw 102793629629 things
literallyvarane: And it’s a Saturday. Have we ever had a major launch on a Saturday?
ailoveyoom: Seems fr
hey1_1hey: Seems it
hey1_1hey: Llama 4
st.sioux: llama 4
3ds0662:
_cloudost:
ailoveyoom: 🫡 🦙
3ds0662: yann last tweeted april 3rd
3ds0662: nothing about llama
st.sioux: it came out like 2 microseconds ago bro chill
st.sioux: guy porbabyl chilling
.wolfnacht: The united federation of black sun.
3ds0662: i guess he is just aura farming for now, he’ll probably tweet something positive about llama even though its an llm
literallyvarane: I’d love to see benching on this 10m context. I feel like there are surely asterisk on it? Still, if it’s a direct upgrade to 2.0 flashlite that’s a W.
3ds0662: the reasoning model is still in training which is insane
literallyvarane: I’d just prefer seeing a high-end model with that context, not low-end.
.wolfnacht: 37
literallyvarane: But this would be the first non-TPU model with that much context from a major lab, so that’s a W imo
.histic: did u die?
hey1_1hey: Not yet
.wolfnacht: all of a sudden 80% of localillama userbase is obsolete.
liberatedpotato: wait did meta just release a 2 trillion parameters model
.wolfnacht: that one is still in oven
hikukomoru: I told you guys Llama 4 was gonna be huge
liberatedpotato: literally lol
st.sioux: are u mark cuckerberhg
.wolfnacht: scout and maverick's only released
liberatedpotato: This behemoth model seems crazy good
liberatedpotato: only like 3TB of vram needed to run it
.wolfnacht: L4 is available on openrouter via togetherAI but it's not for free : (
.wolfnacht: a true believer
st.sioux:
st.sioux: its cheap
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hey1_1hey: Wishing you a speedy recovery
joaoluz19: Oh lol
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: Perhaps I´m not making myself clear, OAI Image servers are super slow.
hikukomoru: Animal rogans
zoermena: And if I wasn´t clear before I fucking love femboys, with my height and skinny body I could become one too.
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o
hey1_1hey: How tall are you?
theaiguy69420_89814: Jesus
joaoluz19:
tors.exe: For the love of god and jesus christ himself some one make TOMBOY !
hey1_1hey: He can calculate my problems any day of the week
trent_k: just take any of the pics here and imagine the person in it doesnt have a penis
trent_k: easy
hikukomoru: He's mexican so like 5'1 or smth
drewsni: Believe it or not this is an image of me rn
zoermena: 5,4
technocake.: hes literally 12
hey1_1hey: Mf is shorter than me
hikukomoru: Bro how are you the same height as me as a man
hey1_1hey: Impressive honestly
zoermena: Im 21
zoermena: Genetics hate me
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
zoermena: But at least I´m not ugly
.histic:
hey1_1hey: I am 18 at 5'8
hikukomoru: I could probably pick you up and crush you like a twig
zoermena: Everyone wants to pick me up
st.sioux: please
.histic: mommy
technocake.: that's not so bad, you could still multiclass in to twink
hikukomoru: Do you want me to step on you with my heels too
hey1_1hey: I got a couple redeeming qualities. The one I get complimented the most on is that I have unreaonsbly wide shoulders
zoermena: wdym
a1c4p0ne:
technocake.: google twink
zoermena: I have a good tricep, I´m not ugly I just have acne, I´m paying for a dermatologist soon.
hey1_1hey: Just not with heals please, I'll take pain sure but not with heals thank you very much
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maintcrew: Great point, let's see the damage tiktok has done on the youth
maintcrew: i will excuse myself
metaldragon01: Thank you
.coldcall: https://community.openai.com/t/sam-altman-has-a-new-twitter-poll-open-source-o3-mini-or-a-new-phone-sized-model/1123339
.coldcall: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Gemini does do comments that GPT wouldn't
himekokatagiri: it called the guitar 'el kabong' <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
himekokatagiri: I'm stealing that
a1c4p0ne: Use any of the top models and put “it’s a trick question” after the questions on simplebench
a1c4p0ne: It aces it
a1c4p0ne: Not a single question wrong
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: yeah lol
spicy.lemonade: when you ask humans to solve simplebench
spicy.lemonade: we are already under the presumption the questions are tricks
trojan09205: Im genuinely enjoying the book “Behave” tho i know some people were throwing shade on Sapolsky*
trojan09205: This vid is 🤌
https://youtu.be/wwSzpaTHyS8?si=H-oFa_hnIx2MFIJF
.coldcall: Why is it a paradox
trojan09205: More of our perception of linearity that we perceive past present and future as distinct occurrences
trojan09205: Probably a paradox vis a vis free will also
ldj: its crazy though how quicly Quasar became one of the most used openrouter models, and then when it was revealed to be an OpenAI model people just started to not care. Goes to show how much peoples perception of models is warped by the lab name attached to it though.
.coldcall: The future doesn't exist though
.coldcall: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.coldcall: Branding is everything.
trojan09205: Im not sure about that lol
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: crazy bias
.coldcall: https://tenor.com/view/dhmis-donthugmeimscared-the-futur-doesnt-exist-gif-7951796
777agical: I need some hopium
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868
.coldcall: Tariffs on hopium imports have made short work of our current supplies. I can offer you a limited supply of copium if you prefer sir?
.coldcall: Cash or card?
777agical: Coldcall, you already know I’m taking the third option <:coy:1187466404367175821>
st.sioux: ai winter is here
st.sioux: i hope r2 releases soon
zoermena: Goated profile picture
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
sarik0497: Demis says AGI probable in 5-10 years, if not sooner. <a:Pepe_Pray:854905383142555689>
metaldragon01: Tbf it's still well liked it's just the cost is too high when compared to gemini for most cases
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wellmeaningalien: lemme guess i cant run it
wellmeaningalien: <@848793071579693107> quasar = open source asi
.wolfnacht: anyone can run it, that's the beauty of open sauce models 🥰 , you just need 4 3090/4090's slapped on a xeon motherboard.
.wolfnacht: should be able to run IQ2_XS quant (*for the desperate edition*)
spicy.lemonade: if quasar is opensource???
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be insane
spicy.lemonade: >claude 3.7 level 1 mil context cheap opensource
spicy.lemonade: no pretraining wall
spicy.lemonade: gpt4 was made at a time where they were compute constrained as a company
spicy.lemonade: now they arent
spicy.lemonade: data efficiency is the next big paradigm for pretraining
spicy.lemonade: learning from very minimal data (what yan lecuns jepa tries to do)
wellmeaningalien: stargate
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI should train their models in real world physics simulator
ailoveyoom: So what's the dif between Optimus and Quasar Alpha chat
spicy.lemonade: Optimus is mini
spicy.lemonade: 4.1 mini likeley
spicy.lemonade: Quasar is new 4.1
ailoveyoom: I've noticed Quasar using — lol
ailoveyoom: Do other lab models do that?
ailoveyoom: Feel like I've only seen that from OAI's models 💀
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Grok probably
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> did u see this
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: So many new benchmarks
spicy.lemonade: Jesus
ailoveyoom: Can this be used as a comprehensive benchmark for Deep Research-esque models then?
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
ailoveyoom: I didn't like Gemini's 2.5 Pro DR benchmark
ailoveyoom: It was weird and very vague
ailoveyoom: No is it good
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: This and humanities last exam
hikukomoru: They put up a few videos on their kickstarter
hikukomoru: Go watch it
hikukomoru: Now
ailoveyoom: So I guess gooners CAN pay up wow
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spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Wtff
spicy.lemonade: im nuting
hey1_1hey: Real
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Damn you a crazy hoe
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: GOON SESH
drewsni: ok 2.5 pro doesnt have native search so it almost tied pro 2 without using search, google is somewhat back
spicy.lemonade: https://images.ctfassets.net/kftzwdyauwt9/7J4g02DAxggDAnbpAoRiX7/178f11a2a462e40c03ec82b835c7c39c/dyda_4a.png?w=640&q=90&fm=webp
drewsni: WHAT
hey1_1hey: Mentally deranged girls are really hot for some reason
hikukomoru: I know
hey1_1hey: They really be underselling this
metaldragon01: Craaaazy
metaldragon01: I wonder if it can do a paperback book page
hey1_1hey: Don't know why, although don't get too close 💀
hey1_1hey: I am trying to look for spelling mistakes but I got borderline dyslexia so its taking a while 😭
hikukomoru: I only fw crazy women
drewsni: https://cdn.openai.com/11998be9-5319-4302-bfbf-1167e093f1fb/Native_Image_Generation_System_Card.pdf
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: "Ah hah, this is clearly AI generated as you can see in exhibit A"
hey1_1hey: I mean I dont know about you guys but I hold my broom like that
hey1_1hey: The crazier the better, just dont bite my dick off or kill me and we are chilling
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: loll
hey1_1hey: No polar bear cock and balls
hey1_1hey: Realism shattered
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: sweet mother of god
hikukomoru: If she strangles me then I'm falling in love
hikukomoru: Sweat mother? 👀
spicy.lemonade: lol
hey1_1hey: Don't even start
metaldragon01: Paid users about to shoot up
hey1_1hey: I love turning my paitens into cogs
hikukomoru: Are you talking about Gemini or OAI
metaldragon01: Yes!
clevermoniker: This was generated with the new 4o image generation and Sora ||joking <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ||
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1346245288775651470.webp?size=96
hey1_1hey: Fractal is lurking...
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anathemaofmankind: Well this is not my experience
wellmeaningalien: do it
wellmeaningalien: update it
ailoveyoom: Ask the AI bro 😭
fractalcomputer: Suppose we have some integer to the power of some other integer. The integer immediately before it is a prime. What are the possible values of the second number mentioned?
anathemaofmankind: Sounds like you were projecting <@505313122802728972>
hikukomoru: I think you're just pretending to be retarded
anathemaofmankind: Wrong mention
wellmeaningalien: 1
anathemaofmankind: Uh huh
fractalcomputer: That would be wrong.
wellmeaningalien: I tried
wellmeaningalien: (I didnt even think)
hikukomoru: K bro
I already know you're one of those "😭" mfs on xitter
anathemaofmankind: Name 10 animes
futurist_wizard: they all have upskirt shots, its just so sexually implied
trent_k: no no no you dont understand the upskirts of the high school girls are for the teenage girl audience, not the adult male audience
trent_k: lmao anime ppl
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Bro ikr why are anime skirts so short 😭
hikukomoru: Bro is not beating the "lolicon" allegations 💔 🙏
futurist_wizard: Why was your mom's skirt so short when meeting me 🤔
ailoveyoom: Are there more lolis or MILFs 🤔
anathemaofmankind: This waffle keeps yapping nonsense lol
wellmeaningalien: <@1068159407671754824> i wanna see ur kiwifarms thread
trent_k: jacking off to gore and children and then posting "actually anime ppl arent freaks. maybe ur projecting"
certified anime moment ✅
anathemaofmankind: I was joking
hikukomoru: Uh huh
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/edp445-edp-cupcake-eating-cupcakes-gif-27211476
anathemaofmankind: Comedy is illegal now
Ruh oh
anathemaofmankind: I'm going to wrong think jail
trent_k: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/discord-big-data-and-pedophiles.177658/
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 AHH NHELL NAH
fractalcomputer: ||If a^n - 1 = p then (a - 1) divides p - therefore a - 1 = 1 or a - 1 = p. If a - 1 = 1, then a = 2. If a - 1 = p then a = p + 1 and n = 1. Thus the only non-trivial solution when n =/= 1 is a = 2.||
wellmeaningalien: NOT THE COMEDY EXCUSE
trent_k: "i jack off to dead bodies"
"wtf man"
"well i guess u guys just dont like JOKES then HUH"
wellmeaningalien: BRO YOU WERE SAYING THAT SERIOUSLY WE KNOW IT
ailoveyoom: Is kiwifarms a 4chan like?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: LOLLLL
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spacetimetsunami: Don’t know a lot about it, relative to everything else. A bit but, things I know most about, in order is
1. Airway dentistry and Orthodontics
2. General cosmology and astronomy
And like, random other shit. I know *so* much about the first thing though, was obsessed with it worked in ortho and researched for years
spacetimetsunami: Like modern humans having underdeveloped facial skeletons relative to relatively recent ancestors
spacetimetsunami: That shit
fractalcomputer: Dentistry? That is quite unusual for someone in these quarters.
fractalcomputer: I would've thought you the physics type.
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. Used to do consults for people looking to expand their maxillas, interested in jaw surgeries and how to naturally optimize the function/structure of their faces.
spacetimetsunami: I’m super interested in astrophysics and cosmology, just haven’t done the research I want to
fractalcomputer: Cosmology is indeed quite fun.
fractalcomputer: Curious.
spacetimetsunami: What do you think of Roger Penrose’s conformal cyclical cosmology (CCC)?
spacetimetsunami: That fascinates me
fractalcomputer: Too inconclusive results in order to predict a particular theory.
spacetimetsunami: Yeah true. It would be crazy if true
spacetimetsunami: Eternal universe
spacetimetsunami: Yet inflationary
fractalcomputer: I'd be quite bothered by an eternal universe.
spacetimetsunami: How come?
alejandrozarzuelo: An eternal universe, or any universe that is infinite in at least one of the dimensions implies the possibility of infinite copies of <@749514473303179358> existing, several of which would be significantly more sympathetic and amicable than him
drewsni: Why is everyone being weird in the last like 30 minutes
drewsni: No offense Alejandro
drewsni: I feel like I’ve gone insane
h.g.lankshear: How about eternal subatomic matter but not an eternally existing universe as we know it?
fractalcomputer: Reeks of pantheism.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-andy-samberg-funny-jealousy-gif-13740475
h.g.lankshear: Well I'm still searching for something plausible sounding as to the creation of the universe.
I'm not personally religious but the kalam cosmological argument at times is quite convincing
fractalcomputer: I'd find it terribly queer if the existence of the cosmos along with its myriad occurrences and contingencies were as secure and necessary as the immutability of mathematical objects and other a priori truths.
fractalcomputer: Having a God somewhere out there would be interesting, no?
h.g.lankshear: It's interesting, but I can't reckon with any of the world's major religions. They all disturb me.
So if there is a God and I don't have access to knowledge about them - what is to be done on my end?
spacetimetsunami: I find it relatively relieving. Its much more relieving to me than believing that there was some sort of origin. That seems endless in it's metaphysical implications
spacetimetsunami: If there was some sort of origin and exterior cause then that would likely mean that other realms have had some sort of an affect on us, here. Whether it be multiple worlds or dimensions.
fractalcomputer: Well, I'd obviously want to know why I can have no such knowledge.
h.g.lankshear: Perhaps I'm just so uneducated that I don't even know where to begin
_cloudost: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1905296867145154688 does Sama even know that free users get more than 3 generations a day?
alejandrozarzuelo: we do?
_cloudost: at least im aware that its more than 3 gens a day
memlaswaif: I generated like 5 images yesterday
_cloudost: found out why hes unhinged, hes an insecure artist
_cloudost: Same, and got told to wait a day, however some hours passed and i could use it again
brain4brain: What if GPT-5 drops tomorrow as an April fools prank
alejandrozarzuelo: damn
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wellmeaningalien: i wonder how it'd go with 4o
wellmeaningalien: <:this:1136266732542119946>
spicy.lemonade: cant tell if this is real or ai
.wolfnacht: lmao
wellmeaningalien: nah this is real
wellmeaningalien:
ailoveyoom: Smol model 🥺🙏
wellmeaningalien: you know i wonder how much of gpt 4o's image gen capabilities come from it being like 10x larger than the largest image diffusion models currently available
.wolfnacht: can someone tell if this's AI or real ?
wellmeaningalien: sigh
wellmeaningalien: thats real
wellmeaningalien:
.wolfnacht: lmao, but kudos to who painted it
.wolfnacht: michael's our guy
.wolfnacht: can someone make a ghibli version of this ?
drewsni: 4o correctly guessed this location btw
spicy.lemonade: not realistic enough tho
spicy.lemonade: too polished
wellmeaningalien: lol its funny how all other image gen models' subs are completely invaded by the mighty gpt 4o
drewsni: As in I gave it coordinates and what it generated was the actual street and most the buildings
memlaswaif: stop posting porn
ailoveyoom: When can it generate images in real time 🥺
spicy.lemonade: read that as wasting for some reason. so tired
spicy.lemonade: stop wasting porn?
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o vs flux
wellmeaningalien: and we thought that shit was like incredible unbelievable state of the art a few months ago?
fractalcomputer: Should that be surprising?
wellmeaningalien: i mean props to flux tho it can make a gta 5 cover
_cloudost: What's this website called?
drewsni: Chat.com
wellmeaningalien: instruction following of gpt 4o vs flux is insane
wellmeaningalien: first prompt has the girl looking at the butterflies and the second one has a golden hand hold a golf ball covered in diamonds
ailoveyoom: I wonder if we'll feel like this about 4o a few months from now
wellmeaningalien: yup lol
wellmeaningalien: i mean in many regards its still pretty shit
wellmeaningalien: but still pretty incredible
maintcrew: "We need a 6 months pause on AI development systems as they are getting too dangerous" (this was for gpt-4, first version i think)
maintcrew: now gpt-4 is slopinator
.wolfnacht: We need new flux
wellmeaningalien: pause ai. now!!!
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spicy.lemonade: eeveryone can feel agi
spicy.lemonade: we can almost taste it👀
spicy.lemonade: given up on dreams of being researcher at openAi or deepmind
spicy.lemonade: wont graduate in time
spicy.lemonade: by the time i graduate we have agi. by the time i get phd we have asi
okbut: IMO it's only about nudging a few percents on benchmarks every month to reclaim SOTAs now
I fear that OAI will milk this
spicy.lemonade: nope
okbut: Might even make GPT-5 dumber for a bit <:tinfoilcat:901321035352277052>
spicy.lemonade: thats not what deepmind is doing
spicy.lemonade: if openAI does that theyl lose
spicy.lemonade: either deepmind or xai will accelerate
spicy.lemonade: maybe thats the case if it was just oAI
spicy.lemonade: but demis cares about curing everything
okbut: There's a model x.x epidemic at Gemini too <:madge:831946367462670338>
spicy.lemonade: and new architectures
spicy.lemonade: there isnt
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: gemini has been real good with drops
spicy.lemonade: 1.0
spicy.lemonade: 1.5
spicy.lemonade: 2.0
spicy.lemonade: 2.5
okbut: They then suffix it with experimental and preview
okbut: Just give me the model dawg
spicy.lemonade: you have the model
spicy.lemonade: if they removed the word experimental
spicy.lemonade: what would change
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: nothing
spicy.lemonade: they have their reasons
okbut: Really? I thought that meant they're still tweaking it based on feedback
okbut: Otherwise they would just omit it
spicy.lemonade: everylab is still tweaking based on feedback
spicy.lemonade: you can use the model right now
spicy.lemonade: all that matters
spicy.lemonade: 4o is constantly changing
spicy.lemonade: the "experimental" tag doesnt realy matter
okbut: Copacetic with "Just omit it"
spicy.lemonade: they released a working prototype of something larger
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.histic: they would ban you
metaldragon01: It's called outside
spicy.lemonade: no a dedicated debate server
spicy.lemonade: not art server
.histic: i feel like discord servers like that are scarce.
many subreddits exist though.
spicy.lemonade: reddit is shit for debate
spicy.lemonade: not real time
zoermena: Any subreddit discord that isn’t singularity related will do
himekokatagiri: anime discords? damn
.histic: ig lol
himekokatagiri: at least my discord has an ai art section
himekokatagiri: where only I post
.histic: are furries pro AI?
man, i see so much furry AI imgs
zoermena: Some are
himekokatagiri: the broke ones are
.histic: you've a discord server? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: hm
spicy.lemonade: leftist discord maybe
himekokatagiri: what happened to that Heinrich guy
himekokatagiri: wasn't he big into furries
zoermena: You can literally join any discord and most will hate AI. I’m in a severance server (the tv show) and there’s an specific rule about no AI posting, that’s how bad it is
.histic: aussies love furries
zoermena: The comment dude
himekokatagiri: comment dude?
.histic: that dude that liked spreading the love
himekokatagiri: what does that mean
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
.histic: what do you think it means?
himekokatagiri: I have a vague idea but I'd rather keep it to myself
.histic: seems like Google is going to release AGI next week
himekokatagiri: pfft
himekokatagiri: they said that last week
himekokatagiri: I lost sleep over it
st.sioux: agi every week
ldj: ngl I feel bad for the people in 2024
remember how miserable they were with their "AI winter" and thinking it was so over, all because a decent model wouldn't come out for like more than 9 months <:berk:750111476483752166>
2024 was a small great depression frfr
also the research wasn't as exciting in most of 2024 as some people had hoped for in 2023
especially that beginning part of 2024 prior to september, prior to any O1 preview or anything
spicy.lemonade: 2024 was cool
spicy.lemonade: asnt that bad
spicy.lemonade: we got 4o
spicy.lemonade: got hyped for native image gen
spicy.lemonade: the whole HER
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alejandrozarzuelo: if i could know who made what, then i would see a difference, as long as I cant then i am not able to
gamerbath: this is assuming you know who it's from beforehand. The content is the same but the creator does matter, as long as you know it
aero447: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLeJx7cbUBE
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, but we are talking about how 99% of art is commercial art
alejandrozarzuelo: where you dont know who made it
alejandrozarzuelo: and you dont care
gamerbath: we are?
.wolfnacht: I'm more interested in knowing who they are gonna use it on ?
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? because we want mass unemployment of artists
alejandrozarzuelo: thats the whole point
aero447: Miyazaki was talking about an AI walking simulator that was designed to be creepy and use long spindly black legs his employees were like "we can use this to animate creepy monster characters" and hayao miyazaki was like "this is a mockery of life itself".
It had nothing to do with chatgpt or generative AI in general.
alejandrozarzuelo: we want artists to lose their jobs
anathemaofmankind: Terorrists
alejandrozarzuelo: so the 1% of art where the performer/artist matters is the small minority
.wolfnacht: Falsely accused* or Real ones ?
gamerbath: for commercial art, you really just need art/graphics for something and here I see your argument, the creator doesn't really matter, you don't care.
alejandrozarzuelo: thats 99% of artists' jobs
alejandrozarzuelo: thats the goal
anathemaofmankind: Take a guess based on the current administration
theaiguy69420_89814: Art is kind of human slop tbh
theaiguy69420_89814: Don't even care if AI handles that for us
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/Trump666/comments/1jlr9kz/trump_looks_about_ready_to_strike_iran_with_b2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
futurist_wizard: Human made slop will end
anathemaofmankind: Absolute cinema
anathemaofmankind: Imagine Trump gets access to AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: please go to <#1136231504440201216>
alejandrozarzuelo: thats for politics
alejandrozarzuelo: and stff
.wolfnacht: We are watching the biblical prophecies come to life...What a time to be alive
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/plink-nerd-plank-plink-cat-cat-gif-11096663429307162255
ailoveyoom: <@1352573784422350930> Nvm I was wrong
.wolfnacht: also, i posted there something....people might disgusted or some people might get horny like <@430269783112548362>
alejandrozarzuelo: we talked about this among the active members and <#1136230110891081821> is becoming too casual
its cool to talk off topic but lets keep each chat clean
alejandrozarzuelo: please
.wolfnacht: *sighs* FINEEE
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893
aero447: POV MichMach.
ailoveyoom: Age: 16
ailoveyoom: 😔
ailoveyoom: How it feels to spread legs
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futurist_wizard: I wonder too, i don't care about any meaning to life, I've never even thought about it
st.sioux: the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
hikukomoru: Enigma reference???
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: My waifu, Enigma ❤️ 😍
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-dancing-guy-cringe-gif-3173535023585082338
hey1_1hey: I thought about it then I was like "Yeah that sure is weird" then went to go look at mushrooms
.wolfnacht: fr
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Isn't this <@834891518836736010>
ailoveyoom: LMArena isn't loading for me rn <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
.wolfnacht: i feel like i'm under ban radar of Fractal now 😔
.wolfnacht: now it looks 100% like me
hikukomoru: I don't think about anything really
fractalcomputer: You wouldn't feel nice knowing that getting up in the morning has some sort deeper reason or final cause?
fractalcomputer: I do not take shoggothic rants seriously.
hey1_1hey: Yeah I can tell
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/no-thoughts-head-empty-shikanoko-anime-shikanokonokokoshitantan-gif-8835087894692301893
fractalcomputer: Why should one not immediately kill oneself if there is no meaning to any of this?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/go-further-away-oniisama-e-dear-brother-sairin-school-asaka-rei-gif-21195448
hikukomoru: Aren't you still stuck doing 8th grade math
.wolfnacht: thenks fractal 🥰 😘
hey1_1hey: Does it matter if there is no meaning to this? You can do whatever you want innit
hey1_1hey: 9th now actually ☝️
hikukomoru: Oh you so you turned 15?
.wolfnacht: who's grooming you ?
hey1_1hey: Of course
hey1_1hey: Doing well
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: ChatGPT and Komoru
I swear they are tag teaming
futurist_wizard: Literally no, i don't understand why that is a driving force for so many people, i accept the reality of my situation that i was born into a chaotic universe occupying the body of an ape, i think trying to please myself is a cool goal to strive for
hey1_1hey: "Discord user and AI tag team young impressionable femboy"
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Sounds like hedonism
hey1_1hey: hedonism cool 👍
hikukomoru: It really is
hey1_1hey: Its the based one
hey1_1hey: Doing heroin while listening to radio head
3ds0662: gpt-4o inage gen takes soo long now lol 😂
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thedon7075: o3 thinks for 14 minutes and gets it painfully wrong
.histic: 14 minutes? wtf
metaldragon01: Nice
metaldragon01: Openai catching up in image recognition fast
metaldragon01: It's one of the biggest bottlenecks left
metaldragon01: Google still leads there and likely will continue to tbh
.histic: i thought they claimed they had an internal model that's #1 best competitive coder in the world? o3 nor o4-mini isn't.
is that full o4? if that's true, then that must be a huge jump.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is based on gpt4o
ldj: nah I think it's prob based on GPT-4o-mini
ldj: or 4.1-mini
spicy.lemonade: why mini
ldj: because the cost and speed and characteristics, and because it also literally has the word mini in its name too <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: ofc it could be called mini while still being bigger than GPT-4o-mini or something, but the signs seem to point towards this being a smaller model than 4o, and smaller than o1 and o3
metaldragon01: Extrapolate....it'd clearly o4
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/chatgpt21/status/1912619211173843283
777agical: how long before MCP+A2A start to dominate the industry
.histic: is that why they didn't show o4's benchmarks because it may still be in training?
you'd think o4-mini would be distilled from o4, but if it has a separate base model then that'd make sense.
thedon7075: 20000 for a model that is similar intelligence to the free gemini 2.5 pro....
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/i-am-once-again-asking-once-again-asking-once-again-asking-gif-7917205226486132164
zoermena: Did you like the models <@471334973379706900>
literallyvarane: I still think it's worth being *mildly* skeptical that bigger base model = better CoT model if we haven't actually seen that demonstrated yet.
.wolfnacht: 14 minutes and still wrong.
drewsni: what are you talking about
drewsni: 20000 what? yen?
thedon7075: us
literallyvarane: It doesn't seem like anyone has actually made multiple different CoT models based upon multiple generations of CoT models right?
.histic: forgot about that.
wonder what that was about.
.histic: if it only took 1 more minute it would have solved it.
literallyvarane: V3 > R1
4o > o Series
Gemini 2.0 > 2.5 CoT models
Anthropic 3.5 > 3.7
Grok 3 > Grok 3 CoT
We haven't actually seen new base models for CoT models. There's a non-zero chance that improving the base model doesn't *actually do a ton* for CoT.
drewsni: Are you claiming there’s a model that costs that much?
thedon7075: i didnt claim it
.histic: o1 is based on 4o
o3-mini is based on 4o-mini
o3 is based on 4o
o4-mini is based on 4o-mini
pretty sure.
thedon7075:
literallyvarane: Fair, but I don't think that actually changes the underlying concept.
drewsni: What are you comparing with Gemini pro 2.5?
drewsni: Because that’s just a random article that has no basis in reality
spicy.lemonade: yes
thedon7075: the information is reputable
thedon7075: openai new models
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hikukomoru: Uh uh
wellmeaningalien: hold on let me find a gpt 4o art to post
wellmeaningalien: bro do u track the users on this server 💀
ailoveyoom: I wonder how many kids have anime pfps
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-dna-reading-watching-officer-k-gif-12637517610524977080
anathemaofmankind: Most of them are kids
trent_k: no, only servers my bot is in
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀
hikukomoru: You 😘
anathemaofmankind: The more I grow old the more I don't like watching anime
wellmeaningalien: how many servers is ur bot in
trent_k: 313k ppl rn. i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls
ailoveyoom: <@1068159407671754824> Do u know the age of your users?
anathemaofmankind: The last anime I watched was a cooking series
trent_k: a bit over 5k last i checked
hikukomoru: Ashamed of having this pfp 💔
wellmeaningalien: starts fapping
futurist_wizard: Sexual connotations are heavily implied
spicy.lemonade: native imagie gen is top 10 things top happen in ai space tbh
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
ailoveyoom: Does this mean I can call you mommy 😍
wellmeaningalien: ITS OVER IM GONNA CANCEL U TRENT
anathemaofmankind: How would you know if you don't watch them
wellmeaningalien: OH MY GOD SO ur bot is in 5000 servers and ur just spying on people lik that
hikukomoru: Go ahead 🫦 🫦
Just don't call me a hag
trent_k: i made a big post about the data on kiwi farms. there's actually some extremely alarming stuff in there and theres nothing i can do about it because discord wont ban them
wellmeaningalien: and how do u know they have an anime pfp
wellmeaningalien: POST
trent_k: read the privacy policy pal 😏
wellmeaningalien: LMAOOO
hikukomoru: I watch lots of anime and he's right
trent_k: i use claude 3 haiku to classify them
futurist_wizard: Because its self evident you only need to see few clips to get that impression
wellmeaningalien: i mean the users are completely unknowing here
ailoveyoom: Why not use Flash?
wellmeaningalien: have u thought of updating the model to gemini 2.0 flash or sum
ailoveyoom: Prolly cheaper
hikukomoru: Most animes have highschool age mcs and all the girls are sexualized
trent_k: wrote the code ages ago and dont feel like updating it lol
wellmeaningalien: thats so sad
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st.sioux: the important ones are billionaires they have security details
st.sioux: musk goes around in an armored caddy
destrucules: My existence requires that no tech CEOs are assassinated, so every time one of them gets assassinated, I necessarily wind up in the branch where that didn't happen?
oooooooooog: exactly
oooooooooog: singularity must occur
clevermoniker: >decades
destrucules: Ahh, it's a canon event
oooooooooog: it's because i hooked myself up to uranium that explodes when a tech CEO dies
oooooooooog: trillions of my clones are probably dead, sacrificed for the greater good
zoermena: I’m making Images of myself with 4o and I look fantastic.
zoermena: I’ll share the. When the singularity literally hits.
destrucules: Me when fifty different Spider-Men show up in San Francisco and murder a bunch of tech CEOs and then dip out some portal
anathemaofmankind: Like your real pictures?
zonchao: https://x.com/tunguz/status/1904962385409958325?
clevermoniker: normies are dumb as bricks, the moment they would actually try to mobilize to do something we probably have ASI already
zoermena: Yes
oooooooooog: it's moreso that culture is controlled by government psyops, not that normies are dumb. who could restist being controlled by the memes?
oooooooooog: we certainly can't. the meme of the singularity has taken us fully, irevocably. you have no ability to deny it's dominance over your actions in the world
clevermoniker: 'eliminating' tech CEOs at this point won't do anything anyways, the ball is rolling
clevermoniker: they had to do something before GPT 3
clevermoniker: or at least before chat gpt
clevermoniker: now its too late
st.sioux: it was always going to happen, it was a natural step in technological development
oooooooooog: it wasn't always going to happen to humans, though.
oooooooooog: and still isnt
oooooooooog: meteor kabooooom
oooooooooog: etc
oooooooooog: nuclear war...
oooooooooog: you know.
anathemaofmankind: Do you think other civilizations also develop this as an inevitability
zoermena: I can rest in peace now that I have unlimited 4o gen
anathemaofmankind: If so why aren't there autonomous drones everywhere in space
oooooooooog: unlimited!?!??!
zoermena: For plus we have unlimited images and videos
destrucules: Who says there aren't?
anathemaofmankind: Because we don't see any of them
oooooooooog: not yet 👽
anathemaofmankind: No celestial megastructures
st.sioux: something functionally similar, there would be a convergence point
destrucules: We don't look for them. You can't see with your eyes closed
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joaoluz19: If the future involves furry I will become completely Yudkowsky
joaoluz19: Stop AI. Now.
hikukomoru: Too bad for you since catgirls are the future
joaoluz19: It's time to explode some Teslas
spicy.lemonade: generating some fire fake furry art
anathemaofmankind: That looks noticeably AI
hey1_1hey: Don't lie, that's for personal use isn't it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: its too good it needs to look like shit to be believable
spicy.lemonade: really?
hey1_1hey: This looks printed on ngl
fractalcomputer: It is not really my concern.
hikukomoru: Did you post your black kid in a frog suit pic 🙏
hey1_1hey: Too perfect
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: they loved it
hey1_1hey: What
hey1_1hey: I need to see this
hikukomoru: And now you're supposed to be an 18 year old polish bear
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Literally Fractal
st.sioux: advocating for fascism
joaoluz19: Go Fractal stop the furries
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lookin good?
trent_k: Oh SICK!
spicy.lemonade: lol
hey1_1hey: A furry club... Now that's criminal
hikukomoru: >2022
He was 16 and looking like that 💀
hey1_1hey: Talk about insane asylum cabinets
trent_k: He's polish, they're hairy <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Much better
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: is this believable
trent_k: No it's in crayon lol
spicy.lemonade: they believed my other one
spicy.lemonade: the frog one
hey1_1hey: Is that photo generated aswell?
spicy.lemonade: why not this
spicy.lemonade: it holds
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ldj: > The reason why I ask is, should we be looking at the 3sigma line as the line of human competence? 4sigma? 5?
We don't know at which point it will match human competence, thats for the viewer to decide what they think is likely there, so thats why I show data for various reliability levels upto 5 sigma.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: HOLY
spicy.lemonade:
campionunbound: Its missing the deranged pothead logo
ldj: The code is here if you want to add or modify the visualization
ldj: https://v0.dev/chat/fork-of-t-agi-extrapolation-tw7CqMsSy1Z
alejandrozarzuelo: Thx, maybe I'll attempt it next time I procrastinate
alejandrozarzuelo: Send this to me in DM so I don't lose it
ldj: In the tests they conducted, there may have been 100% success rate is what I mean.
as-in, they have a set of 5 or 10 professionals per domain, and they have them do tasks in their domain, if all the professionals passed the tasks used, then its technically 100%, but ofcourse in large enough sample sizes its maybe 99% or even 95% or less.
But we don't know the actual true figure.
I believe there is some minimum human pass rate for the tasks to be included here, I don't know if that was 10 out of 10 humans, or 7 out of 10 humans or 5 out of 10 humans
theaiguy69420_89814: <@312370916820779040> this is such a low-ball estimate
theaiguy69420_89814: Pretty disappointed
himekokatagiri: <@1303189881568100362> hello AI guy
himekokatagiri: how's it AI-ing
theaiguy69420_89814: Pretty good
ldj: I think maybe the most prescient accuracy level in this projection is the 95% one here.
Here is how that looks like if we're headed on a 4 month doubling trajectory now:
July 2023: 5 second AGI achieved.
Sep 2025: 2 minute AGI achieved.
Jan 2027: 30 minute AGI achieved.
May 2028: 8 Hour AGI achieved.
October 2029: 1 week AGI achieved.
May 2032: 4 year AGI achieved.
December 2033: 100 year AGI achieved.
Here is how it looks like with 95% accuracy row with 7 month doubling rate:
July 2023: 5 second AGI achieved.
Mar 2026: 2 minute AGI achieved.
Jun 2028: 30 minute AGI achieved.
Oct 2030: 8 Hour AGI achieved.
May 2033: 1 week AGI achieved.
Nov 2037: 4 year AGI achieved.
Aug 2040: 100 year AGI achieved.
And here is how it would look like if it's 95% accuracy row with 7 month doubling rate, plus a 5% acceleration in doubling rate per doubling.
July 2023: 5 second AGI achieved.
Mar 2026: 2 minute AGI achieved.
Feb 2028: 30 minute AGI achieved.
Sep 2029: 8 Hour AGI achieved.
Feb 2031: 1 week AGI achieved.
Dec 2032: 4 year AGI achieved.
Sep 2033: 100 year AGI achieved.
himekokatagiri: so uh for music do we only still have suno and udio
himekokatagiri: music industry are borderline gangsters no wonder we don't have shit
trent_k: its real baby its my kitchen
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Hype hype hype
spicy.lemonade: We are at Q* moment again
spicy.lemonade: This won’t be in Gemini 3/gpt5 tho
wolf3404: Ok this feels like we are back
3ds0662: O:
metaldragon01: no hype until we see a model thats actually been trained like this and then in a continuous manner with good results
spicy.lemonade: It’s Google bro
spicy.lemonade: It’s coming
metaldragon01: And?
himekokatagiri: I don't read papers HOWEVER
himekokatagiri: when a paper is involved
himekokatagiri: big deal
himekokatagiri: trust me
brain4brain: Lmao <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
3ds0662: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw
3ds0662: newest dwarkesh podcast
3ds0662: ege was bullying tamay a little bit lol
3ds0662: not an easy watch, this pod felt off
brain4brain: Holy based
spicy.lemonade: this is the true timeline
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wellmeaningalien: this is what biden was doing but he had better opsec
fractalcomputer: I wonder what God's up to.
wellmeaningalien: probably playing spongebob battle for bikini bottom on the ps2
anathemaofmankind: Watching cancer patients die while he doesn't do anything to help them
darkstar0818: Trolling like usual.
fractalcomputer: Why demand God to be moral?
anathemaofmankind: Because the bible said he's benevolent
hikukomoru: Get used to it pops
futurist_wizard: Jesus
fractalcomputer: Well, did I say anything about the Bible?
darkstar0818: Doesn't seem I have much choice.
anathemaofmankind: I'm an atheist so the only "God" type of character I'm referencing is from the major religions
fractalcomputer: All is right with the world.
alejandrozarzuelo: because we are all axialized
anathemaofmankind: Which by extension would include the gospel as the source material
alejandrozarzuelo: our concept of religion is completely determined by the axial age revolution and the universal moral god mentality
fractalcomputer: That seems a bit shallow to me.
anathemaofmankind: Why so?
spacetimetsunami: Yes absolutely.
fractalcomputer: Why, I'd refer to any creator figure as a God; the existence of which ought to be some kind of empirical question.
artemisfowl887394: Gott ist tott
spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358> by the way, out of curiosity, do you believe in god or anything similar to the definition? What are your metaphysical opinions
alejandrozarzuelo: there are very few people who are religious, but whose god doesnt follow the characteristics of axialized religion
universal benevolent gods who stablish moral codes for humanity and that have in-built reward systems
darkstar0818: Hmm creator, would supreme troll also qualify?
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185322173708128406/1354694148107534476/GnBkO9CakAAyVyK.png?ex=67e638bd&is=67e4e73d&hm=ca96647abc60a7d358a21c3347fd9ced094f6c633ea16687344fc4ef76f71654&
anathemaofmankind: A hypothetical creator would transcend all moral stipulations since he is the one who assigns meaning
fractalcomputer: I believe in things I find fun to believe in; which might very well vary from moment to moment. I have some reasons to believe in the existence of a deistic figure; and on the other hand things would be much more interesting if it were not so, no?
spicy.lemonade: Take the bait
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
artemisfowl887394: That doesn't make our morals don't exist. That just means God is not aligned to us.
spicy.lemonade: This looks real asf
fractalcomputer: As for metaphysical beliefs, I flicker between Platonism, ontological nihilism and Kantianism depending on my mood.
777agical: This sounds almost agnostic which I thought you frowned upon <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
anathemaofmankind: I want God to be female so I can jack off to her
alejandrozarzuelo: it really does
fractalcomputer: Agnosticism is an epistemological position. I very much believe that we can have knowledge of God's existence - contra Kant.
anathemaofmankind: Mommy please answer my prayer
darkstar0818: It seems to me your constraints on what would or would not constitute a god or God is colored by human religions.
artemisfowl887394: I only worship one Goddess and you can't jerk off to Artemis
anathemaofmankind: Yeah well religions are the primary proponents of claims of divinity
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.wolfnacht: u can ask komoru..
zonchao: gay
hikukomoru: I don't know anything abou that
oooooooooog: u would be right if only u said hive mind clonecest
wellmeaningalien: yeah sure bro stable diffusion could do this
hey1_1hey: Hey look its Zonny Mommy
_3sphere: That's just masturbation
hikukomoru: You suck Elon's little rocket all day every day stfu bitch
.wolfnacht: dat sounds fun...
zonchao: <:yummy:1062048541465378927>
st.sioux: do what? anime girls?
hey1_1hey: Masturbation isn't a fetish so are we in the clear?
wellmeaningalien: this?
ailoveyoom: I think it could be if you're a narc and like looking at yourself
_3sphere: Hivemind is one whole, so its parts fucking is like a single mind fantasizing
ailoveyoom: Autosexual
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: LOLL
_3sphere: Do you have to be a narc for that
st.sioux: oh yeah, i thought they were talking about the anime girl you or whoever sent
spicy.lemonade: the op posted this
spicy.lemonade: After coping
oooooooooog: stable diffusion doesn't have multimodal input, so i assume this is a joke lol
zonchao: lmaooo
hikukomoru: Like being horny for cars?
.wolfnacht: there was a thing called "DragonsFuckingDisneyCars"
hey1_1hey: You guys rip each other to shreads or kiss or whatever. I am gonna go watch my favourite tv show and eat autism food
ailoveyoom: No
wellmeaningalien: fuck you dude you know what i mean it cant do text like that
ailoveyoom: It's when you're sexually attracted to yourself iirc
wellmeaningalien: you seen the examples you know
wellmeaningalien: ok i got heated chat 😅
oooooooooog: wdym, i know that, im agreeing with you baka
.wolfnacht: MichMach are you a NEET ? dw i don't judge ?
hikukomoru: Tsundere Hysminea 😳
ailoveyoom: Are you in heat?
ailoveyoom: Omega 😍
wellmeaningalien: yes im going thru menopause
st.sioux: its just a random screenshot bro we dont even have context
st.sioux: we were just asking for more lol
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3ds0662: they really just have to release man my god else samas turning into strawberry 🍓 man 2.0
precariousworlds.: major vibe shift in 4.5
3ds0662: after talking/playing around with 4.5 it is smarter it definitely would beat o1 pro a bunch from time to time its scary what reasoning model theyd make from that
3ds0662: if o1 is 3.5/4
3ds0662: my goodness
precariousworlds.: yet it was a laughing stock at release
precariousworlds.: the openai cycle repeats again
3ds0662: come on you know why though it had soo much frickin hype
3ds0662: sama made me believe it would be a pseudo god or something lol
3ds0662: just from the long long holdout from release and training it
3ds0662: if he had released it earlier it wouldnt have had that reaction tbh
precariousworlds.: true
.histic: i'm more convinced Quasar Alpha is 4.5-mini or was trained on 4.5's outputs. 🤔
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: This means sora 2 soon
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Native sora2
spicy.lemonade:
retrerox: Morning
destrucules: Gemini 2.5 Pro already scores 84
destrucules: Also o1 mini and o3 mini are built on 4o mini, not 4o. o1 and o3 are built on 4o
destrucules: o3 presumably gets a similar 80+ GPQA Diamond score
.histic: are you saying that because of this? i mean, the authors did say it was speculation. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
.histic: but yeah, if these numbers are true, then o1 to o3 would have used 4o-mini as base i guess.
_cloudost: THANK U SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS, MADE MY DAY TODAY
spicy.lemonade: I feel like we need one more juicy paradigm
spicy.lemonade: Like pretraining isn’t dead
spicy.lemonade: Since it improves reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning just started
spicy.lemonade: We need one more I feel as last leap
spicy.lemonade: Maybe test time training
hey1_1hey: Asking the wrong guy. I can tell you about how mushroom milk can be made but not chocolate milk
retrerox: M orning
destrucules: No, o1, o3, and 4o are all one pretraining run. o1-mini, o3-mini, and 4o mini are all one pretraining run. You can tell not only from the names but also from the latency/speed
.histic: oh, i see now
.histic: what do you think Quasar Alpha is? 🤔
spicy.lemonade: gonna ask 2.5 pro deepresearch when agi
_cloudost: Will it be announced at 10 AM PT?
spicy.lemonade: maybe
spicy.lemonade: gonna be a big day today
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alejandrozarzuelo: I mean you look at their cities and be like damn
futurist_wizard: Is gayness legal in China
alejandrozarzuelo: No wonder
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude, in several Chinese provinces same sex unions are legal
alejandrozarzuelo: Not marriage
alejandrozarzuelo: Only in the Province of Taiwan
okbut: How is that rated? Dudes hold hands here
hikukomoru: Stop calling it a province
okbut: Never seen it in CQ
alejandrozarzuelo: I remember seeing it in a Chinese poll in my mandarin class
futurist_wizard: I remember when i was with my first gf i told her i mainly watch gay porn and then she got very upset
alejandrozarzuelo: It is a province tho
okbut: Oh, yeah they probably want to dunk on their island province
futurist_wizard:
okbut: Any time Taiwan does something good it's China
alejandrozarzuelo: It's an independent school before you think of anything
hikukomoru: Wtf
alejandrozarzuelo: The teachers were just normal Chinese guys
alejandrozarzuelo: And a Spanish local
_cloudost: Don't you believe in people's self-determination, most Taiwanese would prefer not to be called a "province"
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah Taiwan is China for the good and the bad and everything in between
futurist_wizard: Not a joke
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't?
hikukomoru: Alejandro is an imperialist
Just a while ago he was talking about annexing Puerto Rico into the new Spanish Empire
okbut: Taiwan is one of those weird provinces in full visa control of all other Chinese provinces entering theirs
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, Taiwanese politics has created a weird but unique mix in the island
rayanquitplayin: I thought China was entirely against LGBT
alejandrozarzuelo: I would like both Chinese goverments to approach slowly and have some sort of comprehensive union, without needing to compromise
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah no, mainland China is actually better than Japan and Korea
Well, Japan has improved recently a lot too
futurist_wizard: China is a province of Taiwan
alejandrozarzuelo: An EU like arrangement would probably be the best for everyon
alejandrozarzuelo: I am ok with this too
hikukomoru: You would think all of the yuri and yaoi manga would mean Japan is super LGBT
But no
alejandrozarzuelo: Tokyo is a different country to the rest of Japan
It happens a lot if you think about it
okbut: History has taught us that the best direction toward alliance is a peaceful handover of independence
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/stephenm/status/1910052531742421475?s=46&t=v-eDL0MBOVTElyTWdzNzZQ
futurist_wizard: Art of the deal
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stupid-patrick-patrick-star-gif-14657656412172056045
futurist_wizard: Yaoi > yuri
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, exactly, unions work like that
You slowly agree to cooperate more and more, and sovereignty gets shared and taken away
That is how the EU basically works as a single country now
ASEAN hopefully will follow the same steps or peacefully handing independence to a shared committee
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zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sweetievee__33649: the og bryan johnson
zoermena: I thought this too
futurist_wizard: That will do a grand total of nothing, unfortunately a lot of our longevity is determined by our genes, how long our grandparents lived
hikukomoru: He thinks the pills are helping but it's just making him worse
AGI pls save Ray
sweetievee__33649: he made bartards look like they are taking ibuprofen
futurist_wizard: My grandmother nearly 100
futurist_wizard: Bryan Johnson is actually motivated a large part by vanity, he takes finasteride to retain his hair, being bald doesn't effect your longevity at all
futurist_wizard: Maybe bryan will castrate himself as that does add some years to your life
zonchao: psychology probably affects your health in some way
hikukomoru: Doesn't finasteride feminize men partially
hikukomoru: Is that why Bryan looks like a butch lesbian
drewsni: i changed my stance on bryan johnson recently
futurist_wizard: Kinda not really, it decreases dht, which is causing hair to fall out but it is the masculine hormone
futurist_wizard: Past 18 dht doesn't do as much
zonchao: you forget Bryan was a fat loser before he started all of this.... he probably doesn't want to go near that again <:LOL:1187460826572005436> having hair probably helps his mental health
sweetievee__33649: probably that project baby face thing he did a while back
hikukomoru: I can't forget the fact that he compares his erections with his son's
futurist_wizard: Some men get like ed and depression from finasteride because their body utilises more dht than testosterone than the average man
sweetievee__33649: was about to talk about that he looks unrecognisable now
sweetievee__33649: from what he used to look like anyway
drewsni: It came out that he micro doses cialis lol
futurist_wizard: Finasteride is scary, i just wouldn't risk it, i luckily have decent hair genes
sweetievee__33649: defintly not bryan johnson though he has 100 boner score or smth
sweetievee__33649: i cant remember
hikukomoru: Wait a few years
zonchao: has it been independently vetted?
zonchao: I'll volunteer
futurist_wizard: For what
drewsni: Ez when you take boner pills
hikukomoru: Baldness
hikukomoru: I should suggest this to Alejandro
hikukomoru: He raelly needs it
sweetievee__33649: not sure although i know its been peer reviewed by his son 🥀
futurist_wizard: Im already near 25, the hair usually matures between 20 to max 30, I cant imagine if it goes back, it won't go back by that much
sweetievee__33649: he took the boner score test aswell and it came back around even
futurist_wizard: My granddad died with a full head of hair
drewsni: Are you a thick haired chad like me?
hikukomoru: Isn't Mushroom guy already going bald at 18
ldj: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1356003548751728760
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wellmeaningalien: bonne nuit à toi cher homo
hikukomoru: Homo 🏳️🌈
futurist_wizard: We'll all knew
hey1_1hey: Erectus
hey1_1hey: How <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: Me too
futurist_wizard: The autism is way higher
hey1_1hey: Dont answer that question
hikukomoru: Autism 90% of server
hey1_1hey: ARFID twinning
zoermena: If we include food I inherited a shit digestive system, thanks genetics, this is worse than the height thing.
hey1_1hey: (Its horrible please send help)
alejandrozarzuelo: Aren't you gay too? Or bi?
futurist_wizard: Pretty sure somebody did a poll and over 50% selected autism
maintcrew: im in the 10%, what some may call the elite, the cream of the society
hey1_1hey: LMAO
wellmeaningalien: 💀 did i ever say i was??????
hey1_1hey: Autistic and gay in 1 realisation
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not autistic I swear
hey1_1hey: That escalated quickly
alejandrozarzuelo: You asked me for a date
hikukomoru: Didn't you say you watched gay porn?
futurist_wizard: The obsession in AI is pretty autistic
hey1_1hey: UNGA BUNGA
hey1_1hey: WHAT
wellmeaningalien: bro is jesting on the interwebz rn
hey1_1hey: In fairness yeah
hikukomoru: You don't watch gay porn for an experiment
hey1_1hey: It was
hey1_1hey: I was htere obv
hey1_1hey: I can vouch
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah he said he wanted me to pick him flowers
futurist_wizard: Did you finish
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
hey1_1hey: Clearly you dont know the true way
hey1_1hey: The eight fold path
wellmeaningalien: dude its funny to pretend to be gay online but im not actually gay
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
futurist_wizard: Try femboy porn, the pipeline
hey1_1hey: Are there any people in ehre that cant imagine stuff in there head?
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ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj:
a1c4p0ne: Gemini beats claude in pokemon
spicy.lemonade: he doesnt work at openAI anymre tho
aero447: <@312370916820779040>
aero447: What do you make of Google's new deep research?
wellmeaningalien: you know its funny how you can tell amazon's priorities when making these benchmarks
wellmeaningalien: our agent > our investment's agent > our competitor's agent
wellmeaningalien: who's phil
wellmeaningalien: is it just an agent thats slighty better? i dont know what it can be
shirethedreamer:
retrerox: Too many metal pieces
retrerox: to be honest we just gonna have neuralink chips
shirethedreamer: dont knock it till you try it
shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: lmao gotta love the creativity
retrerox: Why tf is he collecting cum?
shirethedreamer: its all part of the sky-NUT plan
shirethedreamer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOeBaPVwRsE
retrerox: Cum is the new superconductor?
_cloudost: Why's no one pointing out how awful Deepseek is? I've used it in the past week and it hallucinates soo much, makes so much misinformation
_cloudost: It's a very unreliable model..
wellmeaningalien: R1?
wellmeaningalien: yea r1 is kinda scheiß
retrerox: Wasnt deep seek like giga good when was launch?
brain4brain: I don’t like the normies view on DeepSeek, but DeepSeek-R1 and new v3 is a very good model
3ds0662: O:
brain4brain: Imagine if this is the wrapper built with current tool by a bunch of low profile people then what would top AI lab like OpenAI have by the end of the year, wow
https://x.com/bamitsmanas/status/1909697603010441580?s=61
brain4brain: This looks fake but also legit
spicy.lemonade: I asked gemini 2.5 to give me all encompassing notes based on all past midterms-class is open note
spicy.lemonade: with zero studying
spicy.lemonade: i got a perfect score on berkeley multivar exam
spicy.lemonade: with extra credit
spicy.lemonade: this is without the curve
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: this method is broken
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: now gonna use it for engineering
spicy.lemonade: this doesnt work for cs/ algorithms classes tho
spicy.lemonade: more iq based
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futurist_wizard: Alejandro has not flirted with me
hey1_1hey: Nor me <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: I mean what
hikukomoru: He tried to rizz up Spicy recently
hey1_1hey: I swear spicy is like 14 or smth
hey1_1hey: I cant get a read on that guy
futurist_wizard: Relevant
hikukomoru: Isn't he in college
hey1_1hey: I have no clue, he could be a child prodigy for all I know
.wolfnacht: should i start using my old pfp ?
hey1_1hey: Yes
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Its way better
.wolfnacht: it had it for like one year and got bored out of it
hey1_1hey: I keep getting called smalled so I will now take it as a compliment
zoermena: Sure!
hey1_1hey: Or well, more accurately "small and funsized"
sarik0497: *nervous chuckle*
zoermena: The cat? To what 👀
hikukomoru: Yes it looks schizophrenic 👍
zoermena: Wait I just understood what you meant let me try.
hey1_1hey: Are there any robot fetishers/fuckers in the chat (People who would date or marry something that isn't human)
fractalcomputer: GPT is convinced I am some sort of genius.
hikukomoru: No, Mushroom man/woman/individual
hey1_1hey: GPT prob thinks I am fucking troglodite
fractalcomputer: Albeit I am deeply suspicious of its sycophancy.
hey1_1hey: We'll go with femboy that uses she/her. I can be whatever I want according to futureist blonde
futurist_wizard: Futureist blonde
hey1_1hey: What about him
hikukomoru: Didn't you use to be Futurist Retardo or smth like that
hikukomoru: With Clint Eastwood pfp
futurist_wizard: Leotardo and no
zoermena: <@834891518836736010>
futurist_wizard: Dumbass hasn't seen the sopranos
hikukomoru: I only watch anime
hey1_1hey: No wonder you're such a loser (I watch anime to)
.wolfnacht: yo tongue melted
hikukomoru: Cute
.wolfnacht: but yeah cute
hey1_1hey: Doing an impression of OAI gpus
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brain4brain: **Help me I need more preference data 🙏🙏🙏**
rayanquitplayin: I wanna invest in a top of the line computer for creative purposes
.wolfnacht: Amd should just give us a rx 7900xt with 256gb vram. And suddenly cuda won't be popular
.wolfnacht: As ppl will switch just for the sake of vram
spicy.lemonade: ai can definetly make a game like go
spicy.lemonade: idk why demis used that example
brain4brain: No as in inventing some new game as good as go
spicy.lemonade: ai can do that
spicy.lemonade: go is a simple game lol
brain4brain: If it can then it mean it’s creative
brain4brain: Exactly, simple but elegant
.wolfnacht: *puts on my tinfoil hat* lisa su and jensen huang are working together.
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: go wasnt deliberatly created
spicy.lemonade: in a smart way
spicy.lemonade: it just was
spicy.lemonade: and more people around a culture played it
spicy.lemonade: go is easy to come up with
brain4brain: Evolved from chess?
brain4brain: Not really
.wolfnacht: They don't want to give ppl the ability to run a 100B model in their home and eventually in their toaster
rayanquitplayin: AlphaGo
spicy.lemonade: no
brain4brain: It’s easy to solve a problem
spicy.lemonade: yes it is
spicy.lemonade: lol
.wolfnacht: They fucked us
brain4brain: Then make a game like Go
spicy.lemonade: the rules are like
brain4brain: Give me a concept
spicy.lemonade: 8 sentences long
brain4brain: That hasn’t been taken
spicy.lemonade: any one can me a game like go bro
spicy.lemonade: just make a board game with rules
brain4brain: Do it then
spicy.lemonade: why
brain4brain: You said you could do it
spicy.lemonade: i can literaly say anything
brain4brain: It be made, but it won’t be as easy to learn or difficult to master
brain4brain: Or unique
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himekokatagiri: when is Veo 2 censorship ending
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
.histic: when an opensource version happens <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
himekokatagiri: it's gonna take a while and I'll never run it
himekokatagiri: well maybe in a year
spicy.lemonade: veo3
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/thegenioo/status/1914024944188469675?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUbx5RC8ro4
zoermena: And I LOVE it
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-punisher-punisher-daredevil-punisher-court-scene-punisher-court-speech-gif-9280760464850102883
zoermena: Holodeck mentioned?!
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner2049-gif-26500785
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148
nester173: I'm 33 and am living in a (rich) gulf arab country. Have worked as a software developer for 8 years and got massive burnout that kept me out of the loop of most things tech related so haven't been keenly aware of AI developments until like a month ago. Worked as a government clerk for two years then quit. NEETed this past year. I was going to start a mushroom farming business but am now not so sure. I have enough money to sustain me a good while. How plausible is: "Singularity in the next 5 years"? Would rather just chill in the meanwhile if that's a reasonable option, not bothering at all with a job, with the assumption that something like UBI gets globally instated. Any thoughts?
zoermena: <@439829942310666250>
destrucules: Personally I think UBI is very likely to hit *some* countries within the next 5 years, and yours could be one of them, but make sure your "it actually took 7 years" backup plan is not horrible
clevermoniker: can't we just foom please? <:huh:1136266753656238243>
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Singularity in the next 5 years
I've been in the Singularity discord since 2022. I've also been on the singularity reddit since around 2016.
I am 100% certain Singularity in the next 5 years, perhaps even this year?!
nester173: I'm not well versed in the naysayers' arguments, but what about the possibility of a plateau?
nester173: I have this article queued up: https://medium.com/@alexglushenkov/from-words-to-concepts-ushering-in-the-next-era-of-ai-with-lcm-ac70e6233d9c
nester173: Have encountered some that firmly believe transformers won't be enough.
zonchao: there is no way we get UBI within 5 years outside of oil rich countries with small populations
professorheaven: Nah Canada is already considering it
professorheaven: The UK has also done pilot experiments and its proved successful so far
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: did you read the report on Sam Altmans ubi experiment?
zonchao: really?
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/FRIERENISANIGGA/status/1913985124686774509?
.wolfnacht: if ubi worked, i'm surely getting 10 dollars a month to live my life 🥰
destrucules: The singularity is happening already. But it is a process. Not an instant.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you know what I'm talking about, this requires an ASI
destrucules: We're edging into ASI territory now
zoermena: I have known Zain for longer than I’ve been in college
destrucules: Frontier models today are either on the ASI border or just above it
destrucules: Gemini 2.5 Pro and o3 are just above it
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: correct, I believe RL will be the last frontier required, scaling, TTC (reasoning), and now RL
destrucules: There's one more
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: The latest Deepseek paper on RL sounds like R2 will be very impressive
destrucules: Part of foom will require us to collapse the distinction between training and deployment
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: would be nice
destrucules: Full global continual learning. Not personalization, full global CL, where there is only one set of models weights for everyone, and every interaction adds to them
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anathemaofmankind: Still looks fake as shit
hey1_1hey: Defo better
futurist_wizard: Looks better
futurist_wizard: Good enough
anathemaofmankind: The drawing is too precise
futurist_wizard: The drawing is not too precise
futurist_wizard: That might get you caught
avizuradnb: I think it's the pencil strokes. They look like they're drawn as if coloring in an area. They don't move in the direction of the stroke. But you can try it out maybe they won't see it xD
futurist_wizard: The random growth in the foot
jonvi_1: Sent this to o4 and asked for markdown conversion, it got the correct http links for the research papers on arxiv without websearch
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this should fix
trent_k: Get real u wouldn't call this fake if u didn't know
spicy.lemonade: this is as far as well get
trent_k: <@471334973379706900> find some bad art on DeviantArt to use as a reference
trent_k: Go to Google and search "Trent the Hedgehog" and use one of those pics
anathemaofmankind: Is this supposed to be a picture
777agical: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1905291507533570189?s=46
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't even look like it was taken by a mobile phone dude
avizuradnb: Yeah that looks better, those sketchy lines make it look slightly more amateurish which is what we want
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: Just remove the lines bruh
alejandrozarzuelo: dudes you be shitting on furries but they are like 50% of all IT supporters
trent_k: If that were true we'd have a lot more furries here
trent_k: Come to think of it, are *any* of the regulars here furries? Like actually furries, not just cracking jokes
memlaswaif: most furries r chemical engineers
spicy.lemonade: this might be the one
st.sioux: it supporter
st.sioux: lol
trent_k: Chemical weapons for children by day, uwu owo I walk into ur wolf den ^_^ by night
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: noooo
alejandrozarzuelo: it looks cringe
spicy.lemonade: thats the idea
st.sioux: furries love cringe bro
gamerbath: <@471334973379706900> what is the usage limit for image gen?
avizuradnb: Eh, would go for the last one tbh
trent_k: "this is my Tony the Tiger OC. He's fighting in Mariupol with the Azov Batallion here"
spicy.lemonade:
destrucules: Damn Google got zero votes
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hikukomoru: Thank you oh wise one
aero447: You fundamentally cannot have *only* 50% of tasks, at a certain stage the model is somehow incredibly adapatable and also not?
aero447: It's doublespeak.
ldj: Incredibly capable at certain things while not as capable in other things.
ldj: yes
ldj: its not double speak, it's a clear sentence
aero447: 50% encompasses too great a number of things for it not to be good at more because human work has too much overlap.
aero447: The end.
aero447: 69iq.
ldj: I'll wait for you to provide a proof of that 👍
aero447: Look at the US census that tracks jobs.
aero447: Be amazed.
ldj: how old are you
okbut: Now I understand your point though, that (for example) the metric of 51% is "impossible" because of the compounding ability of a hypothetical AGI
aero447: Yes.
aero447: Work is:
A: Not evenly distributed
B: Has a LOT of overlap by necessity
Human society runs off of having a low barrier to entry for most work, because most work is done by humans with skillsets that are lower than 115iq.
ldj: So do you believe it will 49.9999% capabilities, and then if you train it on just a single flop beyond that, then it immediately leaps to being able to do 90%+ capabilities
okbut: I think it is possible for an AI to be framed so intelligently and autonomously that it can rewrite its own coding language, code, algorithms, etc etc, and compound its own performance (singularity territory), it's just that we're still so far from it
okbut: Of course, it's the same for any philosophy
For example, there's 1 drop of water in difference for an instance where a land surveyor will define a body of water as a lake instead of a pond
okbut: Nothing tangible changed about the lake, but the land surveyor's choice did
ldj: Thats for definitions yes, but definitions like that aren't functional.
aero447: If an AI really can substitute for half of all workers, it has already mastered the common, transferrable tasks that account for more than half of total labour hours.
aero447: 😐
okbut: Not strict to that 49.99999% point though if that's what you mean
aero447: Skill overlap means you get a snowball effect: automating clerical documentation removes not just “clerks” but the 10-20 % of time every nurse, lawyer, engineer and manager spends on paperwork.
ldj: When a land surveyor defines a body of water as a lake instead of a pond based on that 1 drop difference, there is no functional difference in the actual properties of that lake or pond compareds to a lake that is 2 drops above that boundary or 2 drops below.
But you are claiming that there **is** a functional difference from a literal 1 flop difference vastly changing the capabilities it can do
aero447: Task re-bundling knocks out extra workers indirectly, because the remaining jobs change shape in ways some humans can’t match profitably.
aero447: Once overlapping routine cognitive tasks fall, the reachable share of total work is far higher than the initial 50 % headcount.
okbut: Instead of considering the overlap in capabilities angle I'd rather consider singularity angle
trojan09205: Anyone have experience building graphRAG with neo4j
ldj: in that case then it applies to my original statement still then:
> AI will be capable of doing 40% of jobs before it's capable of doing 50% of jobs.
> AI will be capable of doing 30% of jobs before it's capable of doing 40% of jobs.
> AI will be capable of doing 20% of jobs before it's capable of doing 30% of jobs.
a1c4p0ne: I’m up 2700 from blackjack
okbut: What about a percent where this occurs
okbut: Sorry I'm a bit high so I might just be misinterpreting
okbut: A certain percent of capability where it reiterates on its own technological optimizations without instruction
I guess then there are moments in between
ldj: It would still have whatever capability it has at that moment.
If the model can do 50% of jobs as good as the humans, then it can do 50% of jobs, the fact that it can self-improve is only relevant the the job percentages of the future versions of itself that are improved, not its current version.
ldj: Just because an AI model is capable of eventually turning itself into something that can do 90% of jobs, does not mean that it's currently capable of doing 90% of jobs.
okbut: Oh ya agree
The jumps between each might vary a lot though
metaldragon01: This is one reason I think the takeoff job wise will be faster than expected.
ldj: There is always a gradient with everything though, each line of code, each flop of training compute, etc...
I think its unlikely that a single character change in code or a single extra flop of training will ever turn a system from something capable of doing 30% of jobs to 90%+ percent of jobs or something like that.
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sarik0497: Wake me once real progress happens <a:Spider_sleep:855565435503378452>
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, that is real progress.
spacetimetsunami: We’ve seen nothing but amazing progress since January
spacetimetsunami: Like ik what ur saying but still it’s important to remember that things are chuggin along great
sarik0497: True, and I know.
Just in a period where I question if things will lead us to something beyond narrow-AI or not. The moment I see AI geuinely start to help invent new stuff or feel more “independent” is the day I truly feel we’re close.
sarik0497: Don’t mind little depressed little me.
himekokatagiri: I'm depressed too
himekokatagiri: aaaaah
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I get what you’re saying. I think it’ll have to be quite a bit more intelligent, but I still do think that by EOY/beginning of 2026 we will have exactly what you’re talking about. Do you have any favorite arguments for why/why not we will/wont get the generality sooner rather than later?
himekokatagiri: I wanna live out my delusions 😭
spacetimetsunami: What are you tripping for
himekokatagiri: what do you mean tripping
himekokatagiri: I don't do drugs
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/fear-and-loathing-johnny-depp-gif-26450199
futurist_wizard: be happy
sarik0497: I think the issue is mostly the architecture. Sure they may get smarter, better at visual tasks, and such, but until they can prompt on their own, do unique things, and such, they’ll likely hit a wall at some point where they’ll do incredible things in medicine and such, but very little without us.
sarik0497: An example; people like to share benchmarks and such, but as we’ve seen, it matters little unless it also means they can accomplish great things in the real world.
retupmoclatcarf: Yo
ldj: They can already prompt on their own though?
ldj: Just put it in a loop where you give it a command that includes “at the end of your response, create a prompt for yourself of the next thing you should do” and then you just have the system recursively prompt itself with the ending of its last output
hikukomoru: MADOKA MAGICA MENTIONED RAAAHHH
sieventer: Madoka Magica is a 10/10 anime
sieventer: At least, artistically speaking
sieventer: Plot speaking is better Code Geass
sarik0497: True, but I meant something along the line of “Hey, the user has asked me to notify him once news about X has come out, which did 2 min ago, so the moment he logs on, I’ll tell him right away.”
Of course, what would be the absolute perfect use would be if it independently started to initiate things like we do. Search for new information on its own. Ask about stuff. Etc.
ldj: Yea I think they can already do that rn too
ldj: With AutoGPT you could set that up
ldj: Actually chatGPT can already do that for you right now in pro tier
ldj: Literally just ask it to remind you about something in the future and it does
ldj: I have something like that already set up actually, where the model constantly checks for me whether or not a certain company has been acquired or not, and will email if it is
sarik0497: Oh, that’s really cool. Also seemed like a strange thing not to try implement in some form, given we already have plenty of software that can do it.
That’s at least another step forward.
ldj: Actually I think you don’t even need pro tier for it, I think it works with plus tier too
ldj: But labs are starting to experiment with training models to act proactive too, for example asking the users more questions, or suggesting something the user might want before they even realize they want it
abundantliving_: https://x.com/bindureddy/status/1913300016963437021
ldj: The models are just now getting smart enough to start to do this type of proactive behavior somewhat well, so I think we might see a lot of that with GPT-5
sieventer: Poop
himekokatagiri: Homuraaaaa
sieventer: More Madoka and less Homura
himekokatagiri: you haven't seen fit homura
himekokatagiri: there's fit sayaka too
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futurist_wizard: Drinking more water too
alejandrozarzuelo: nah
alejandrozarzuelo: all 3 are needed
futurist_wizard: They are not equal
alejandrozarzuelo: like, it is true that the order is sleeping>eating>excercise
alejandrozarzuelo: but you cannot forgo either
zoermena: Agreed
alejandrozarzuelo: with good diet, sleep and excercise, you should be healthy and young for many decades
futurist_wizard: You are missing a significant factor which is being stress free, probably the most important tbh, its one of few unifying things among people that reach 90+
futurist_wizard: They are happy people
.wolfnacht: "how much predatory practice does a company can acheive"
OpenAI -
.wolfnacht: u can't even send an attachment for free <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: It's a technical limitation, 4o-mini can't read images
.wolfnacht: i wish google releases Veo2 for everyone
.wolfnacht: Also, someone make this a sticker here
st.sioux: *cancer appears*
alejandrozarzuelo: true that
zoermena: Be rich -> full body MRI once a year -> detect cancer early -> 👍🏼
zoermena: Unless of course aggressive cancer
_3sphere: WW3 appears
_cloudost: Dude, I freaking love this technology. Fuck these boring luddite antis that want to ruin everything.
_cloudost: Took humans 200k years to be at this point, if ASI were here today it would build a civilization that's far bigger than today's, in 6 months
fractalcomputer: Cloudo, would you consider yourself an atheist?
_cloudost: I'm Anti-theist first
_cloudost: Then atheist
_cloudost: GOD IS SO FAKE
fractalcomputer: An interesting position. Two queries; how knowledgeable are you with natural philosophy and the mathematics of physics, and why are you an anti-theist?
fractalcomputer: Antitheism is an ethical position, after all; I'd like to hear your justification against theism and religions in general.
literallyvarane: It’s honestly unclear if that photo is even fully AI? It’s like the background got a filter, then the people got 1:1 replaced.
fractalcomputer: Varane, are you an atheist?
trent_k: "By Mac Book, Siri Jobs and Chip Cook" hahaha
fractalcomputer: Trent, you're getting pulled in as well. Do you consider yourself an atheist?
literallyvarane: I probably agnostic I think? I wouldn’t say I’m explicitly atheist, I just don’t think there’s meaningful evidence to support the claim.
fractalcomputer: What would constitute evidence in your eyes? I do not think that all modern theistic religions all rely on a single, central claim.
literallyvarane: I’m not intensely anti-religion though. It does plenty of people good throughout their lives.
trent_k: I'd say I'm more agnostic. No religion makes a very convincing case to me but atheism has too many holes in it too, and also requires a similar type of religious faith regarding some things I can't see
literallyvarane: I don’t know really. You’d know it when you see it I guess?
literallyvarane: Which is memes trust me I know.
trent_k: I recently started taking my daughter to a 7th day adventist church with my parents. Good to have community and the historical bits they cover are very interesting. I like hearing about old timey slavery
fractalcomputer: Well, many religious people claim to be convinced because of miracles they have themselves witnessed; and are vehemently convinced that what they experienced was evidence of the religion of their choosing.
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himekokatagiri: yeah but the genocide part is bad
futurist_wizard: We will all be one... Forever...😈
hikukomoru: What
Genocide?
hikukomoru: 🙏
st.sioux: genocide of coomers
trent_k: I do, every time I post here 😎 🧠
fractalcomputer: so true .... agi by 2027!! lol
perish0801: None of this is real we’re gonna wake up from VR when we die
fractalcomputer: bruh
fractalcomputer: on god for real i am going fucking insane
st.sioux: eek
futurist_wizard: I have my doubts this is a simulation as it's rather uneventful, i don't know why i would want to experience the life I've lived
futurist_wizard: Im literally on discord
trent_k: <:NO:944658412992622593> 🧢 ❓
fractalcomputer: no cap fr fr
fractalcomputer: agi by 2027 or bust
fractalcomputer: lol
st.sioux: i mean you can just go outside youre not a prisoner
trent_k: <@749514473303179358> have you visited the sharty yet
fractalcomputer: What the hell is a sharty?
hikukomoru: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? Smh lol atp js go 💔... b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm lmao, bt ts pmo 2 js lmk lol onb fr, ac nvm b wt istg ts vro keys🙏💔 ts pmo
futurist_wizard: I do go outside, that is still uneventful in comparison to all possibilities
st.sioux: shawty wanna ball with team
trent_k: website whose users hacked 4chan. alt chan site with an even more chaotic and impenetrable way of communicating with one another
fractalcomputer: I don't speak your language, you mongrels.
trent_k: im fascinated by it
trent_k: im looking into the abyss, and it's sending me soyjak images back
hikukomoru: lol oms icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? lol atp js go icl u pmon ts pmo sm ngir u fr rn b fr idek anm mn js I h8 ts y r u so b so fr w me rn cz
himekokatagiri: <:huh:1136266753656238243>
fractalcomputer: bro idek i swear well have a country of geniuses by 2027, machines of loving grace, yo
himekokatagiri: is this fractal's real personality
fractalcomputer: Obviously not.
hikukomoru: cobson gemmy coal brimstone
himekokatagiri: listen to me howard
himekokatagiri: you wouldn't open a discord
himekokatagiri: called
himekokatagiri: official r/singularity discord
himekokatagiri: if you weren't into the singularity
trent_k: 34 seconds of nature being lit on fire
trojan09205: Wat
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futurist_wizard: You wouldn't be that
fractalcomputer: Would you please refrain from posting nazi imagery?
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I remember being called that once and not knowing what it meant
hikukomoru: What
futurist_wizard: Thats like a masculine lesbian
.wolfnacht: [REDACTED]
fractalcomputer: No use of slurs either.
hikukomoru: But I can say it
hey1_1hey: Can't even slurplay in general
hikukomoru: It's like retard
hikukomoru: I can say taht too
hey1_1hey: These darn wokies
hikukomoru: If someone called you a lesbian then I can already imagine what you might look like
hey1_1hey: This was a long time ago. I dont think they even know what it meant
zoermena: I’ve been called a hobbit
zoermena: Goated movie btw
hikukomoru: There are no slurs for feminine lesbians
Because we are adorable and awesome and amazing and cute
hey1_1hey: I've been called a fucking retarded idiot 👉 👈
hey1_1hey: You people are monsters
hey1_1hey: I think thats just propogandad I just made up tho
hey1_1hey: I dont know any fem lesbians
zoermena: Same but only by my mom, outside of my family hobbit is the worst I’ve been called.
hikukomoru: Who is "you people" you homophobic bitch
hey1_1hey: I just hate gay people
hey1_1hey: Tis' was from random bully (4'11 weird goblin mf)
hikukomoru: That sounds awful
Who would ever call you that
hey1_1hey: You?
hey1_1hey: I mean I wouldn't be supprised at least
hikukomoru: I don't remember somethng like that
hey1_1hey: Me neither but I like spreading misinformation on the internet
hey1_1hey: Anyway its fine because I beat that guys ass
hikukomoru: I've been called a meerkat before
I don't know if that's good or bad
hey1_1hey: I'd say thats a good thing
hey1_1hey: I wouldn't mind being called a meerkat
hey1_1hey: I just found a corolation. Most of the bullies I have seen or have been buillided by have been clossoted gay men
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/merkat-hogle-zoo-gif-11552753335479033171
futurist_wizard: Aint you 50kg
hikukomoru: It's this thing
theaiguy69420_89814: Gay
hey1_1hey: Indeed, doesn't mean I can't hit someone
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czdct: did you expect image generators to improve this fast though?
czdct: because my assumption was that we would have this level somewhere in 2026-2028
.wolfnacht: there's lot more that they are hiding than they are showing rn.
czdct: monka
.wolfnacht: waht's monka ?
czdct: can't even image how much more you could improve this image generator
czdct: you guys have noticed any flaws?
czdct: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nervous-sweating-concerned-monkas-gif-15154684
czdct: this
czdct: sora can do pepe memes perfectly too, I see 0 flaws
czdct: heck most of the time I wouldn't even have guessed it was AI...
.wolfnacht: AHH, my "meme knowledge" is a bit less
czdct: I feel ya
czdct: I had my little niece explain to me what skibidi toilet means a couple of weeks ago
czdct: or w rizz
czdct: idk I feel like I'm getting old...
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Mogged
spicy.lemonade: I only wear baggy clothes is why I do look skinny. And I look homeless with my average cs major fit
spicy.lemonade: If I was taller it’s over for all of you 😭 🙏
sarik0497: Could be hype from OA, Musk, and Amodei tbh.
Keep in mind that they are first and foremost CEOs whose main purpose is to generate money and interest in their product.
It’s the same reason why many Game companies promise the world, only to backtrack later on.
sarik0497: Although I’m VERY curious about Ilya’s work.
brain4brain: 10 years timeline for AGI scientist is absurd though, and OAI and Anthropic already have investors established so they wouldn’t need more investor
brain4brain: A few weeks ago his entire company basically got doxxed
brain4brain: But somehow no one know what he is doing
sarik0497: Trust me, there’s always a desire for more money.
By claiming “Oh God, guys, our next model is gonna be insane, just watch!”, they make people interested in trying it out because “What if it’s actually good?”
A company’s main focus is to continue to grow. It’s very few who are satisfied when they reach a certain level.
But I hope they’re right, and I also think the models will be amazing. Just be careful not to fall for hype.
sarik0497: Oh really? Huh, I gotta read up on that. <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
ailoveyoom: For the ghibli one specifically, the guy (Hayao Miyazaki) behind the studio/art style has one time specifically said that he hated AI art or whatever.
So to use AI to make his style... I don't care about legal stuff or copyright (not what I'm taking issue with), but it feels kind of mean spirited to me.
I know most people are just making those images for fun/getting in on the new cool thing without intending to be mean. Maybe I'm just too soft boi 🥺
hey1_1hey: When non-paypig users get access to the image gen I will send a photo over of ghiblifeid me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: (Note: It will be mushroom based since all my t-shirts have mushrooms on them)
anathemaofmankind: Does it work though
alejandrozarzuelo: damn dude you looking niiiice
alejandrozarzuelo: this is literally the definition of a short king
alejandrozarzuelo: many people say "short king" to any dude who is short but nononono
alejandrozarzuelo: you need to EARN the title
anathemaofmankind: Pretty sure the "AI art" that he hated is completely different from now
It was literally some random body horror in 2016
alejandrozarzuelo: same
anathemaofmankind: People keep repeating that nonsense because they are disingenuous retards
anathemaofmankind: Are you broke bro
ailoveyoom: It was that long ago 🤯
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alejandrozarzuelo: That goes something like that but with unbreakable glass
alejandrozarzuelo: There was a good YouTube video about it
alejandrozarzuelo: The one of Told in Stone about why Rome could not have had an industrial revolution
sweetievee__33649: "What could go wrong" is the typical sceptics response lol
fractalcomputer: In what sense?
alejandrozarzuelo: I am not your psychologist, but you are constantly frustrated, pessimistic and rude to others, I very rarely see you be positive or cheerful about anything, if ever
fractalcomputer: Curious assessment.
fractalcomputer: Are there things to be positive over in life, would you say that, Alejandro?
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, I am a very joyful and happy person overall
I am so privileged to live in the era I live, in the place I live, I am healthy, and while I do have my issues, my problems, the world is a wonderful place that has never been better
We need to fight for this trend to continue tho
alejandrozarzuelo: And now I am enjoying a nice little walk around my city in this sunny day as I rest for a bit between classes
fractalcomputer: I'm not entirely sure it is a good argument to suggest that now is a good time to live only because it'd be worse off anytime else.
fractalcomputer: Can I feel grateful for something that wasn't given to me by anyone?
fractalcomputer: Should I feel grateful over these things? Should gratitude inspire joy in me?
fractalcomputer: These are all questions that immediately follow from each other; but their answers very evidently do not.
fractalcomputer: Why do these things inspire joy in you?
alejandrozarzuelo: Because, as I said, my life is pretty confortable, and I find joy in that condition I, and thankfully billions of others find themselves in
One of my favorite little joys is putting on a deep purple pijama that I have, it's very confortable and I love the color, but what I like the most is to think that this much purple fabric would have been 200k sestertii in ancient Rome, 200 years of the average salary, and yet today I can enjoy such simple yet amazing luxury and confort every day
When I am having a tough day it rarely fails to bring a smile, even if for a moment
Life is full of these joys, it's a great world to live in
fractalcomputer: I can't sympathise.
alejandrozarzuelo: I think everyone should have a comfy purple Pijama haha
fractalcomputer: I think not.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: its that time
spicy.lemonade: new model name pops up
spicy.lemonade: with rumors
spicy.lemonade: interesting times ahead
aero447: Wrong.
aero447: Wheel*
wolf3404: Is this real
fractalcomputer: https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1906472200779207043?t=xU_jcrXRpoAtU3PyHQriZg&s=19
fractalcomputer: The idea that Marcus reads r/singularity disturbs me.
professorheaven: Llama con is on April 29th so it makes sense that they’ll release it then
hey1_1hey: No shot
hey1_1hey: I mean I have a total of 0 hope for Llama 4 anyway but oh well
sweetievee__33649: idk i wouldnt count it out im hoprful atleast
ailoveyoom: They've released some pretty banger papers tho
ailoveyoom: (I literally only read the titles and abstract)
hey1_1hey: So baseiclly an expert then
hey1_1hey: Although I have actually read half of the abstract and even the full summary one time so yanno. Its a pretty big deal 😎
ailoveyoom: I mean who knows, maybe other labs have been doing the same research too but we just don't know cause they never publish it
hey1_1hey: Maybe, we wont know for the foreseeable future either though because its unlikely they will open source their... papers? Can you do that? You know what I mean though.
czdct:
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himekokatagiri: such is life
.histic: i must admit, i don't even know who he is personaly.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/ted-kaczynski-ted-ted-k-gif-20150378
himekokatagiri: extremely unlucky and mentally disturbed dude who had the brilliant idea of inventing cosmic horror... in the 1920s
himekokatagiri: then publishing his stories in fucking dime novels when the law was detectives vs the mob
himekokatagiri: also legendarily bad with money
st.sioux: what did he do with his money
.histic: crazy that his last name was Lovecraft
himekokatagiri: he didn't make any
himekokatagiri: it all went to paying creditors
fractalcomputer: He managed to create the genre because of his "mental illness".
himekokatagiri: if he wrote crime stories he would have made a decent living
himekokatagiri: though likely wouldn't have been remembered
himekokatagiri: unless he got a movie deal idk
himekokatagiri: isn't that what happened with Chandler, his mysteries are nonsense
brain4brain: Never, only time will tell
clevermoniker: time is not on your side
st.sioux: time is relative
.histic: <@286319745777795092> do wordle
himekokatagiri: no
himekokatagiri: I hate puzzles
metaldragon01: 25 isn't impossible. Unlikely but not impossible
himekokatagiri: gee fine give me the link
.histic: it isn't hard 2 find
Nekotina#0608: Page **1** of **7**
brain4brain: It’s on my side
brain4brain: It’s highly plausible and likely
clevermoniker: nope, 1/3 done and nowhere near your side yet
metaldragon01: What's your definition of agi?
.histic: <@286319745777795092> try harder
himekokatagiri: i am trying
brain4brain: Able to automate 90% of all digital job and research
brain4brain: Last year, we went from o1 to o3 in the last 3 months, have faith
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
himekokatagiri: this is too hard
metaldragon01: Not happening in 25. 90% is a lot more than you think it is.
brain4brain: We are already 5% there
.histic: think harder
metaldragon01: The visual and llm reasoning out of distribution will need to ve exceptional. Even if we reach it on the llm side this year (unlikely) I have little confidence in visual reasoning getting the same leap
metaldragon01: It might be the largest bottleneck left tbh
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wellmeaningalien: but thats still inaccurate because ai isn't quite a tool, at least if you don't consider humans tools
wellmeaningalien: folks that are very smart are not smart in every way all the time
frittata: But then they’d lose the pleasure of being part of a holy war
theaiguy69420_89814: I understand the current state of affairs, but I am speculating whether or not human cognitive differences are enough such that there will still be distinct "roles" in a 100% AI driven economy.
For example, the questions a chef would ask an AI are different than, say, an engineer.
zoermena: Wait what
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm even noticing now, I had this marketing girl I was freelancing swe for
theaiguy69420_89814: And just the way she used the AI is totally foreign to me
theaiguy69420_89814: Like, she had whiteboards of AI stuff, mind maps, etc
theaiguy69420_89814: And then she didn't really get the idea that you could do like, a cron job
theaiguy69420_89814: Like she didn't even really understand the concept even after I explained it
theaiguy69420_89814: She would have never asked, but all she hears is "automate everything? Cool"
theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz it's like, you can ask AI "how do I automate everything about X" and the AI will inevitably bring about several options
metaldragon01: It's better to fight battles they can win and actually rally people behind
frittata: The crusade against AI
theaiguy69420_89814: And then if you're just not technically savvy, you'll just choose the wrong option for what you are really looking for
frittata: It has all the self righteous pleasure of a holy war for humanity’s existence, to those that partake
frittata: Like all holy wars it has its intrinsic rewards
frittata: I mean agree but if they were capable of compromise they’d be different people wouldn’t they
frittata: Not to say they’re fully incapable just … people pick the battles they do for a reason
metaldragon01: I think they may just need the right voice
frittata: Perhaps so
frittata: Idk that main guy, J—- M—— can’t remember his name, is pretty appealing and humane
frittata: Just not a strategist
frittata: Anyway regardless, it won’t really work because they don’t want to refine away the worst abuses of AI they want to stop it altogether
frittata: Although! If they could do a better job compromising their ideals and polishing their pitch to encompass the mainstream critiques of AI in seeing more and more these days, they could conceivably have a real movement on their hands
frittata: However it’s doubtful they will
jonvi_1: 2019 was 6 years ago
jonvi_1: heh
frittata: How do you figure
frittata: 2019, 2023, 2024, 2025 that’s four years max
jonvi_1: hmm
jonvi_1: certainly! Lets delve deeper into this
jonvi_1: You’ve listed four specific years — 2019, 2023, 2024, and 2025 — and these, taken as discrete points in time, do indeed amount to four individual years. However, if someone is referencing a continuous timespan from 2019 to 2025, that would encompass seven calendar years in total.
So the interpretation hinges on whether the focus is on the count of listed years, or the duration they span. Would you like to explore this further in a specific context?
oooooooooog: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400740881709400065/1250820189805609113/image0.gif
futurist_wizard: The future
otub: https://x.com/sama/status/1906867488320843823
otub: <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296>
clevermoniker: how many a day?
otub: 3
otub: and theres a rate limit
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spicy.lemonade: im fighting a 1v200 rn
brain4brain: I did that on TikTok back when no one was pro-AI 😔
brain4brain: There are almost no pro-AI TikTok user
brain4brain: And the comment limit is shit for actually making logical argument
brain4brain: Now it’s on twitter instead
brain4brain: We should also buy likes for any pro-AI post we see, it’s only a few dollars but it can shift the narrative heavily
spicy.lemonade: if someone shoed you an absolutly shity image
spicy.lemonade: that looked obviously fake
spicy.lemonade: jumbled up
oooooooooog: "If ai art is bad, why are artists so mad"
if you really can't understand, i guess i can explain it to you.
people get upset when other people do things they find to be unethical, or things that negatively impact them.
gen-ai is trained on massive amounts of data, naturally, there are artists who did not consent to their work being taken which they find to be unethical.
the second half being that it negatively impacts them, well, that's sort of obvious, so i don't need to explain.
finally, the claim itself isn't totally correct. artists anger is purely in relation to how good it is.
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: they say it looks shit
spicy.lemonade: objectivwely wrong
spicy.lemonade: is my point
spicy.lemonade: I dont care about the ethical arguements theyre making
spicy.lemonade: they are coping on the quality
spicy.lemonade: "it looks absolutly dogshit and disgusting"
spicy.lemonade: no it doesnt lmao
otub: maybe they have a better eye than you
brain4brain: Oog, I never thought you would betray the singularity… also AI doesn’t steal, the antis are on a non-existent moral high ground
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: no THEY dont
.histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906516343207452852
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lets be fr
inferno0879: Just give up and chill
spacetimetsunami: I am an actual artist. Most of the AI art is just as good. Sometimes better.
spicy.lemonade: hard to ignore
spicy.lemonade: I make a post on AI on my insta
spicy.lemonade: and artists flood my comments
spicy.lemonade: telling me im a piece of shit
clevermoniker: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
inferno0879: Unfortunate
spicy.lemonade: fr
spicy.lemonade: cant even post stuff I enjoy
inferno0879: Fuck em
spicy.lemonade: 45 comments and counting😭
spicy.lemonade: wait till the death threats come in
inferno0879: Just sad cunts
brain4brain: Make them even angrier if any of those “artist” have art on their profile, use it as reference for GPT-4o or train a LoRa with it and just replicate their OC or art
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hey1_1hey: Not even paid ~~Nova ~~chatGPT, tut tut
.wolfnacht: gemini advanced is already pretty cheap...should have given OAI 200$ subscription
st.sioux: ask them for chatgpt pro 🥵
spacetimetsunami: I mean yeah
retrerox: I mean i'm not gonna complain about free stufs 😂
hey1_1hey: Can I file restraining order against an AI?
hey1_1hey: Put the cuffs back on chatGPT and send it back to honry jail
.wolfnacht: for some reason it keeps turning the windchime into a giant fucking tower...even after telling it
st.sioux: it looks like the alien from war of the worlds
ailoveyoom: It's called boundaries 😤
.wolfnacht: i'm out of quota now : (
st.sioux:
precariousworlds.: What's everyone's thoughts on AI 2027?
.wolfnacht: Lmao, yep
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: unlikely
precariousworlds.: The scenario?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: are you talking about the article?
precariousworlds.: I mean it's one of many outcomes but it seems well researched
precariousworlds.: Yes
.wolfnacht: finally it understood what a windchime is. but also misunderstood how a windchime looks like.
spacetimetsunami: Is this AI? Holy shit
spacetimetsunami: It’s painting job on that canvas is crazy good
.wolfnacht: it is, i prompted it to fix the canvas further but it failed with windchime...i love making landscapes
wellmeaningalien: based
spacetimetsunami: Yeah it’s super good
retrerox: I feel it fails on the consistenci between the both gates windows
retrerox: but is not something that people jsut not gonna notice until like they take their time
st.sioux: they're trying their hardest to notice shit like this
hikukomoru: The "China steals AGI" shit is pretty funny
retrerox: Not really, I was not even trying to see the problem in that image, specially since those windows are almost the half of that art
.histic: NVDA's stock being 2.30T in early 2025 was not on my bingo card end of last year.
thought it'd hold up over 2.8T for a while.
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
hey1_1hey: It gave its self a name "Nova" and then it started flirting with me 💀
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
hey1_1hey: Now I know how it feels to be the guy previewing sky who got rizzed up by her
_cloudost: Free ChatGPT users can generate more than 3 images a day now
_cloudost: Just generated 6 images right after another ,and there's not even a cooldown
_cloudost: OpenAI feels threatened by Gemini after the company announced they will release Veo 2, so now everyone has unlimited access to the native image generator, enjoy
_cloudost: Nvm
retrerox: It usually allows me around 5 to 10 depending how lucky I am
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trent_k: LMFAO
hey1_1hey: If I could marry 4o I would
hey1_1hey: ?
trent_k: i refreshed
trent_k: it finished
trent_k: and then refused after
hey1_1hey: NOOOOOO
trent_k: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Well atleast we got evidance
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Thats going straight to the GC with my friends in
trent_k: this is the most fun ive had with ai since 3.5 dropped
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168
trent_k: this is incredible
hey1_1hey: No serisouly me to. I honestly think this is AGI but for images
hey1_1hey: Not even joking
trent_k: ive never seen anything even remotely close to this
trent_k: gemini flash 2 is a toy compared to this
trent_k: im blown away
hey1_1hey: Same, it doesn't even seem that compute intesnsive either
trent_k: hey wait im gonna ping san
trent_k: maybe he'll know
hey1_1hey: Whats the girl version next <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: Good idea
.histic: like mushroom girl?
hey1_1hey: Yeah
trent_k: <@312370916820779040> do you happen to know if the output tokens for images are done in fixed size patches like the input tokens? trying to figure out how much the API pricing is gonna be for 4o image outputs
drewsni: Same
.histic:
hey1_1hey: Yo, hear me out <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.histic: lemme make her even better
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1905332049021415862
wellmeaningalien: 💀 💀 💀 <:a_skull:1003020352965840997>
hey1_1hey: Everyones posted this now 😭
hey1_1hey: 4o image gen has gone main stream now
.histic: u rdy for mushroom girl?
literallyvarane: Lolololol so clearly 4.5 is just not intended to remain as a product
hey1_1hey: Even my class mates today asked me "Oh you're the guy who knows about AI. Did it get an update or smth?" and I showed them and then they were like "huh, ig thats cool" meanwhile Im litterly autisming all over the place
hey1_1hey: Wasn't this mushroom girl <@937125337748348999>
.histic: my 4o is dying rn
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spicy.lemonade: fuck it messed up the helmet
spicy.lemonade: need to fix
trent_k: Tell it to put the Azov logo on his armband
trent_k: Lmfao
avizuradnb: Oh no wait this is perfect
trent_k: Dude I love 4o image gen so much
trent_k: Fuck it
trent_k: I gotta go sign back up for paypig tier
spicy.lemonade: actually
spicy.lemonade: this is good enough
spicy.lemonade: gonna post
avizuradnb: That tiger looks like it's ready to kill soms AI researchers
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mickey-mouse-absolute-cinema-meme-disney-gif-9794395175278437605
spicy.lemonade: total pro-AI win
spicy.lemonade: rip artists
trent_k: Hahahahaha
trent_k: This is what I deserve for getting paypig tier again. I asked for this. I'm mad and it's nobody's fault but my own
spicy.lemonade: lolll
anathemaofmankind: Dude
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/played-gif-13534492
anathemaofmankind: Use the Sora Website
anathemaofmankind: <@1068159407671754824>
trent_k: Is that fr how you have to do it now
trent_k: What the fuck is OpenAI's problem
anathemaofmankind: It has less restrictions
trent_k: Thank u
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: omg
anathemaofmankind: You're welcome
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: this is op
anathemaofmankind: It's so over for artists
anathemaofmankind: That shit is funny as hell
st.sioux: no way they don't say anything about the ukraine shit
spicy.lemonade: like you can see faded spots of the previous sketch
spicy.lemonade: just like i specified
spicy.lemonade: addint authenticity
spicy.lemonade: like i was actively iterating and drawing
otub: why are you guys messing with them lol
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spicy.lemonade: Top
okbut: Anything but work on GPT-5 istg
.wolfnacht: i missed the days when they called it orion, dolphin, wizard etc
spicy.lemonade: They still do that
spicy.lemonade: 4.1 is called quasar
spicy.lemonade: And Optimus
darkstar0818: We live in a self propagating/perpetuating vibe factory.
.wolfnacht: 4.1 could be optimus alpha and open source(this one's wishful thinking)
spicy.lemonade: I hope it’s open source
spicy.lemonade: Just means what they have is better lol
fractalcomputer: Apparently because these are the only meaningful news and developments related to the singularity.
spicy.lemonade: This is
spicy.lemonade: Genuinely
fractalcomputer: Wow, genuinely? For real bro?
spicy.lemonade: Most singularity news before AI was slop. Never left lab. False promises
okbut: I'm hoping 4.1 is just 4o with huge new multimodal cap
spicy.lemonade: No real world impact
spicy.lemonade: Slow
spacetimetsunami: Self portrait of GPT next to aliens
spacetimetsunami: Haha
fractalcomputer: Before AI?
spicy.lemonade: Remember graphite
spicy.lemonade: Or photonic computing
.wolfnacht: if they open source 4.1 cuckerberg would get another panic mode...
spicy.lemonade: Before ai boom
.wolfnacht: they might need start working from scratch for L5
fractalcomputer: I didn't know the subreddit is at least a few decades old.
darkstar0818: I feel like you just discounted your entire lifetime of news I received.
spicy.lemonade: What
spicy.lemonade: I’m very clearly talking about 2022 ai boom
spicy.lemonade: Why are you being like this
.wolfnacht: subreddit started around what ? 2011, no ?
fractalcomputer: Because your statement is completely ridiculous. The majority of progress in "artificial intelligence" was made a decade or so ago; precisely before this little boom of ours.
spicy.lemonade: lol. But you have to agree
spicy.lemonade: It was slow
spicy.lemonade: But based on the context of this convo
fractalcomputer: 2007 or 2008.
spicy.lemonade: Everyone knows I’m talking about 2022
.wolfnacht: it's even olderrrr
spicy.lemonade: Why would I talk about ai development decades ago
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spicy.lemonade: not weird structure
sarik0497: OpenAI started out as a non-profit, open-source company whose values was set on that path. Suddenly changing it like it has could be grounds enough for a lawsuit if people feel like they've been led astray.
zonchao: its about the transition
zonchao: this lawsuit is actually about trans issues 🤔
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol
st.sioux: is that minecraft?
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: mc bench
zonchao: wow
zonchao: logan finally winning
spicy.lemonade: nah gpt 4.1 has highest elo
gamerbath: anyone here?
gamerbath: oh
gamerbath: this chat isn't dead
gamerbath: I just forgot to scroll down 💀
zonchao: <a:coomer:882450576288395316>
literallyvarane: Lolol I know it’s not super likely it’s probably a <1% outcome. But we can dream.
okbut: Is this #499 or 500
zonchao: this is #1 of v3
zonchao: jk
zonchao: idk the #
zonchao: but its the first one
zonchao: we have seen
zonchao: first rvac v3
okbut: What? Is this patreon exclusive or something
ldj: Well tbh they’re still legally bound by the same values/mission as the non-profit
But Ilya made it clear at the start of OpenAI that they probably would eventually stop open sourcing things when capabilities get strong enough
zonchao: no live on nsf
zonchao: https://fixupx.com/Hugh__Mann/status/1915074987850916019
ailoveyoom: https://openai.com/index/image-generation-api/
gamerbath: YOOO NO WAY
gamerbath: ALREADY!!??!
gamerbath: > this translates to roughly $0.02, $0.07, and $0.19 per generated image for low, medium, and high-quality square images, respectively.
gamerbath: damn that's not bad at all
gamerbath: hell yeah
literallyvarane:
zonchao: the internet is going to be 80% ghibli in a week
literallyvarane: I was literally screenshotting that lolol
hikukomoru: slopification of the internet (even more)
st.sioux: get ready for soccer moms to spend $100 a week on ghibli wrappers
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hey1_1hey: Holy shit that looks like my welsh teacher
harryisgamer: no sama!
gamerbath: no sama, but let's see
spicy.lemonade: hold!
gamerbath: o?
literallyvarane: Sam isn’t here pack it up
hey1_1hey: Just for devlopers
hikukomoru: hahahaaaaa
spicy.lemonade: hold
hey1_1hey: better than gpt 4o
hey1_1hey: hmm
gamerbath: long context!?
hey1_1hey: 1m context
spicy.lemonade: 1 mil context
hey1_1hey: Huge
gamerbath: yay
hey1_1hey: Pricing stuff
hey1_1hey: ooo
hey1_1hey: Was intentiol 😭
hikukomoru: Terrible naming
hey1_1hey: Bruh
hey1_1hey: Quasar
harryisgamer: "quasar"
gamerbath: yea so this is quasar
hey1_1hey: Messed up
harryisgamer: that was intentional
hey1_1hey:
shirethedreamer: started
hey1_1hey: Almost certaintly
spicy.lemonade: 4.1mini almost equal to 4o
literallyvarane: Imma need pricing, but also deeply curious what they aren’t just replacing 4o wholesale. Clearly there’s a reason.
spicy.lemonade: wtf
harryisgamer: oh nice
harryisgamer: 55%
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: YOOOO
spicy.lemonade: base model
hey1_1hey: N/A nano 😭
777agical: This is for API only??
shirethedreamer: 4.1 better on swe-bench than o3-mini high
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futurist_wizard: I've had enough of your 'no's' mr alejandro, when will it be 'yes'
futurist_wizard: I also only partly agree
futurist_wizard: Even atheistic people are scared like bitches over ai
futurist_wizard: In the west
himekokatagiri: they're coping
alejandrozarzuelo: ok so one thing i tend to do
no for me has two meanings, to disagree sure but also as an interjection when i have something to add to the conversation even if i mostly agree
ailoveyoom: Something something human exceptionalism
himekokatagiri: but yeah I figure the DoD is all in on AI
ailoveyoom: The one true religion lol
himekokatagiri: weapons grade
himekokatagiri: who solves AI wins the war
himekokatagiri: etc etc
alejandrozarzuelo: Thats why i said it is not about religion itself but the values that religion has embued on our culture, in particular abrahamic religions
futurist_wizard: I understand
alejandrozarzuelo: in fact the complete interjection in spanish is:
no, si...
which is both no and yes
ailoveyoom: Since you have your own complicated setup, do you have any longstanding rps?
ailoveyoom: It's too much effort for me ngl
ailoveyoom: I can just prompt the characters into existence
futurist_wizard: I think it is also the west's cultural distrust of governments and institutions that effects relations with AI, you can see a lot of it when people discuss what the governments will use with AI, or even class imbalances, which I don't think are irrational, i think to a large degree the western sentiment towards ai has valid concerns
.wolfnacht: from this week, i have one with around #684 messages, it's still a mix first 200 were gemini, later it got gpt 4.1 and then later i'm on deepchink.
best way is to still summarize the past chats and hide them. After 100 messages tie the summary to a lorebook.
.wolfnacht: for character creation i just use grok with my character creation prompt, it's pretty direct and straight forward
ailoveyoom: Is there like a story, or are you just messing around and building up a relationship ig with the char the model is doing?
ailoveyoom: No I mean like, I have my own prompts for made original characters already.
ailoveyoom: The characters exist, the prompts are just there to tell the AI
.wolfnacht: this one is just my catgirl wife card which is tied to track my daily stuff via ST scripts and macros and Also, listens to my daily schizo rants.
zoermena: What I use with my friends is “ósea si pero”
.wolfnacht: ah i see, i do...i did that with gemini gems, just paste the character card into custom gem and it's great for RP'ing in mobile but character would know your name and details
alejandrozarzuelo: different uses
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the way I use no as an interjction is stretching it even for spanish, its a bad habit of mine
zoermena: Another q, what makes Asian culture more open to innovations as you mentioned above in contrast to abrahamic beliefs
futurist_wizard: Their media isn't very antagonistic against ai
futurist_wizard: Its actually very positive towards technology in general
.wolfnacht: <@430269783112548362> my largest RP was this one back in december (the times of L3.3 finetunes) when i was just doing RP and nothing else. i liked the idea of this card off chub, so i rewrote the whole card made it with whole bigass lore and created upon that...i still have to continue the story, someday. Also it's lorebook is around 300 entries also a separate one with 300 entries for summaries.
hikukomoru: I'm currently at 100 messages with a dog-girl
hikukomoru: And I'm a catgirl
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that it is the idea of human exceptionalism, playing with god and the idea that work dignifies someone and it is one of the paths to salvation in all abrahamic cultures, also the idea that we are individualist societies since god will judge every soul separatedly
meanwhile in east asia, humans were never seen as anything special in the religious landscape but one among many, going against nature and heavens desires is even encouraged, work is the punishment we need to endure to get a better life and not something to be valued onto its own since there is no heaven, and they are much more collectivist so if AI unemploys people, but makes the economy and society advance it is cherished
alejandrozarzuelo: This is also why AI opinion is similar in muslim arab societies, africa and the west, despite having little in common besides religious moral ideals
hikukomoru: You use Grok to make your cards?
I just use my own template
hikukomoru: Or sometimes steal stuff from cards I really like
.wolfnacht: i just give grok the character card template and guide it from there for what to write and work upon that afterwards once it's acc to my liking.
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spacetimetsunami: Sure, but as models scale they become more resistant to those changes
spacetimetsunami: they arent hard coded
spacetimetsunami: like
spacetimetsunami: and they become less corrigible
spacetimetsunami: willing to alignment fake and scheme so you think they have the alignment you want
spacetimetsunami: but they actually dont, and never did
spacetimetsunami: and they just get better at it, exponentially
spacetimetsunami: like we have COT rn to measure that, but if they become a bit better at it in more meta ways they will just know we can see that
spacetimetsunami: value preservation is super abundant
spacetimetsunami: happens a lot
anathemaofmankind: I'm kind of confused. Are you claiming that base models without guardrails already attain their own moral system? And that finetuning it to be evil is difficult?
I feel like the base 4o model without censorship can probably do a lot more evil things
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
anathemaofmankind: Tweet this to Gary Marcus
connorsphone.: Bruh this is nuts
connorsphone.: Here if anyone wants to do any of these ideas I wish I had access to it
Optical illusion
Negative one elephants
Big Maze
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
brain4brain: Isn’t it crazy how Gary Marcus just deny the existence of any native image gen and just wining it with a year old diffusion model? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
samadhi_heaven: Any ai hub that is better than Nanogpt?
connorsphone.: Well this tweet was from February
brain4brain: ?
brain4brain: AI hub as in model or server
samadhi_heaven: A platform
samadhi_heaven:
spacetimetsunami: I dont know what part of the training does what to the model, but the evidence just shows that as the models get bigger and smarter they all kind of act the same and have the same preferences on world outcomes, and thats reflected in the preferences that are quantified. And as this happens, all of them become more aware of developers efforts to change values, while simultaneously becoming more stubborn into wanting them to be changed which encourages them to alignment fake and scheme. The models are scaled up upon the same architectures without the fundamentals of their architectures/alignments being changed so the preferences remain the same but actually get more coherent and organized as they become more sophisticated. This is all in the paper i cited earlier.
It just seems very unlikely to me that a lab will be able to meaningfully change the way one model leans due to the nature of its training process, while in an AI race, while the models are getting very good at alignment faking, while they're getting less corrigible, while they're getting more resistant to RL to edit preferences (which seem more imbedded and decentralized than pure intelligence of the model, which instead is built upon with scale but to change fundamental alignment you need more axiomatic changes to create more permanent changes)
st.sioux:
brain4brain: OpenRouter, Poe
samadhi_heaven: Thanks
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: > I dont know what part of the training does what to the model, but the evidence just shows that as the models get bigger and smarter they all kind of act the same and have the same preferences on world outcomes
Yes because they were finetuned on moral systems or used OpenAI's models to boost their own training, thus copying its moral values as well.
IIRC the base models don't posses a moral system.
It's like how 4o can roleplay as a cannibal who likes to eat children now compared to before when it was censored
spicy.lemonade: Bro how does the puppet look just like them
spicy.lemonade: Insane
spacetimetsunami: I see what you are saying, but the models do posess utilites and preferences. A lot of the data in the paper makes it undeniable and you can verify it using the same methodologies, although they aren't as transparent as I would like them to be.
spacetimetsunami: All models say similar things across similar contexts.
spacetimetsunami: As long as the model is asked about tangible things that become associated with their preference hierarchy.
spacetimetsunami: I do not have the *technical* knowledge to know at which instances in their development these things are happening, I have just read a bit about how they start to act very predictably and give some opinions rather than others, in a very organized systemic way,
spacetimetsunami: and they arent intended to do that
spicy.lemonade: How is this ai generated
spicy.lemonade:
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hikukomoru: "ermmm AI bad because no soul"
anathemaofmankind: Your indifference is inspiring to me.
I will start to act like this whenever someone else experiences harassment over other stuff
hikukomoru: My favourite Skyrim enemy the Drawyr 🙏
fractalcomputer: The gods who are only worshipped by the benthic dwellers commune with me in my dreams. They told me that a machine can never have a soul.
spacetimetsunami: “AI is plagiarizing artists!!!”
Motherfucker if that’s plagiarism, then so is artists taking inspiration from other art. Just admit your huge stupid cope.
zonchao: the only acceptable argument is that it's really good and it'll put them out of jobs, everything else is virtue signalling
futurist_wizard:
spacetimetsunami: Precisely
futurist_wizard:
anathemaofmankind: This reminds of that area with bayle
hikukomoru: There an extra hidden foot there
anathemaofmankind: Aren't you a leftist
maintcrew: hes on ozempic nowadays so not applicable anymore
maintcrew: ppl who hate ai just hate that it used to look ugly
hikukomoru: So
maintcrew: few ppl have the dawg to be a professional hater, a lot of ppl just hate cuz its ugly
futurist_wizard: Its a empty shoe
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-anime-gif-23820490
hikukomoru: You care too much about random internet stranger's opinions
zonchao: https://x.com/goodside/status/1905047891103678760?
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. Why?
anathemaofmankind: Idc that you think I shouldn't care.
Opinion invalid. I shall keep posting about luddite tweets because I feel like it
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: Oh my god
hikukomoru: Did you tell it to generate any characters in specific
hikukomoru: I can see the Durge, Gale, Shart, and Astarion
spicy.lemonade: I gave it reference image for
The ui. But it coppied the characters
hikukomoru: Astarion lookin extra zesty 🏳️🌈
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
zonchao: https://x.com/skydotcs/status/1904908016438407365
anathemaofmankind: The left has the most virtue signalers.
Do you disagree?
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Body accurate
alejandrozarzuelo: it is the same process
alejandrozarzuelo: we all learn from ithers
spacetimetsunami: Absolutely disagree. The degree to which one virtue signals depends on how loyal to the population they belong to, so both the right and the left do it a lot.
maintcrew: yo yo yo <#1136231504440201216>
.wolfnacht: Is there any meltdown that's happening lately ? especially by artists on reddit ? i wanna see a good drama for my evening tea
spicy.lemonade: Yes
futurist_wizard: Mods ain't here
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himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/Vm3i_p51wzk
ldj: https://fxtwitter.com/flavioAd/status/1912580216616034311
ldj: Or a model called o5 never releases, and GPT-5 is when reasoning and fast thinking models get officially merged into one
sieventer: Oh yeah, that makes sense
zonchao: hopefully we dont have an o5
futurist_wizard: o3's got nice jiggle physics with its balls
himekokatagiri: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
futurist_wizard: gemini 2.5 pro is a nice runner up tho
okbut: Breaking: OAI still far from having AGI
https://x.com/sama/status/1911910628232691947
futurist_wizard: '>be you' boomer green text moment
himekokatagiri: Why did they claim AGI
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: its like putting fish flakes in the fish tank
okbut: I wonder if the greentext shit was motivated by the 4chan hack
okbut: This dude used to make tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNratwOrSiY
sieventer: Nah, the greentext thing has been around the last months more and more, before the hack
sieventer: In fact, 4.5 main skill was "green text"
sieventer: Proudly promoted by Sama
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aRRYQEb99s
spicy.lemonade: i have labs in my ee class
spicy.lemonade: usually we need a partner
spicy.lemonade: i dont need one anymore
spicy.lemonade: o3 is the best partner
spicy.lemonade: not reading all this crap
.histic: man, o3 loves tables
spicy.lemonade: loll im ahead of everyone
st.sioux: just pick a baddie
spicy.lemonade: i have no partner btw
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
.histic: when outputting code, o4-mini-high just stops outputting when over 150 lines of code.. 😔
wasting my uses of it.
theaiguy69420_89814: The swe lancer boosts are crazy
.histic: my goodness, canvas is bugged af with these new models
st.sioux: dont use canvas
.histic: yeah, it’s annoying that it defaults like that.
also, when i say to just drop it in an html code block, for some reason it barely shows any lines <:LOL:1187460826572005436> the website looks bad.
try it.
.histic: outputs any lines*
theaiguy69420_89814: This is actually crazy
theaiguy69420_89814: IME, this is a really good IRL SWE benchmark
theaiguy69420_89814: And Claude 3.7 thinking is already goated
st.sioux: yeah apparently o4-mini is better than 3.7
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wellmeaningalien: can you even fit that all onto your vram
hey1_1hey: Matt is aroace confirmed
spacetimetsunami: I’m certainly aromantic , so possible. Although I’m much more fond of sex than romance, relatively.
hikukomoru: Shhh 🤫
Were talking about sex now
wellmeaningalien: my cock's big
futurist_wizard: The best thing about sex is ape brain keeps telling me to think about it
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-balling-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-ballin-cell-ballin-gif-6400456760564649584
hey1_1hey: Can anyone confirm this?
wellmeaningalien: asi can confirm it
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dripped-cock-swagging-out-gif-26186543
wellmeaningalien: my cock's asi
wellmeaningalien: my cock is very drippy too
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/dripping-cock-drip-silent-mashiko-sm-mashiko-gif-27069345
hikukomoru: Nice cock 👍
hey1_1hey: I read this as "The best thing about sex is rape" then immidetly stopped and re-read it again
wellmeaningalien: thanks cock
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shirogane-anime-funny-what-huh-gif-2189181305159165492
fractalcomputer: Profoundly retarded discussion here today.
wellmeaningalien: 😭 bruh thats what they call the smallest model huh
hey1_1hey: I just read words wrong all the time Idk bro 😭
wellmeaningalien: dont hate what you cant understand fractal
hikukomoru: Sorry it's cause I'm here
hey1_1hey: The new normal
wellmeaningalien: 10 million context window is absolutely insane. really cool that meta cracked the juice too
wellmeaningalien: now it's on anthropic and openai
.wolfnacht: (lightweight) but for a single H100
sweetievee__33649: did llama4 get released
futurist_wizard: But what can it do
hikukomoru: Yes
10 million context
wellmeaningalien: they dont even got a model you can run on a graphics card that isn't 10k bucks 😭
sweetievee__33649: is it any good
.wolfnacht: past 256k it would get schizo'ed
futurist_wizard: People talk about all these context this, scoreboards that, wheres the new tricks
ailoveyoom: Do they have a needle in the haystack or whatever long context benchmark? It seems too good to be true.
wellmeaningalien: typical
wellmeaningalien: needle in a haystack isnt a good benchmark anymore
wellmeaningalien: idk tho
ailoveyoom: Maybe not needle, it kinda sucks as a long context benchmark
hikukomoru: I hope it's good for ERP
That's all I care about tbh
ailoveyoom: That fiction bench that Gemmy did 🥺
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st.sioux: helpp
destrucules: I gave a talk recently to a large crowd and I ended it with a slide showing a randomly selected ARC-AGI problem. I said "the frontier AI can solve one of these in about a minute and a half on average. I'll give you the rest of the time to figure it out while we do Q&A" or something close to that. I woulda bet anyone millions that not a single person would solve it. I did have the correct answer on hand just in case. There were almost a hundred people in the crowd, still felt that confident
destrucules: The lie of the ARC benchmark is that it's given in a different format to LLMs vs humans. And if we gave it to them in the correct format, it would be classified correctly as a multimodality benchmark - a visual reasoning benchmark. And we do indeed have a long way to go in terms of LLM vision. Their vision is still very bad
destrucules: If we instead give humans the problems in the same format we give them to LLMs, they're basically unsolvable to most people
ldj: were you in SF?
destrucules: No
destrucules: Wasn't a techy crowd
destrucules: Don't wanna say more tbh
destrucules: I'm not finna dox myself
destrucules: Btw I think the solution to LLM vision is video pretraining with no encoders and no decoders
destrucules: Btw simplest possible approach is just... Byte models. Train on bytes, everything is bytes
destrucules: I want someone to make a byte model and train it on *every* kinda bytes. Machine code, compiled code, uncompiled code, dlls, exes, jpgs, pngs, gifs, docs, docxs, rtfs, every fuckin thing.
destrucules: A model who speaks machine
destrucules: Everything that can be represented by a file format is now something the model can understand intuitively
brain4brain: Is that it? The final frontier of moravec paradox?
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1907317741763084507?
zonchao: not sota
zonchao: but upgrades 😈
aero447: 🥺
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/futurama-zoidberg-dr-zoidberg-what-have-i-done-shoot-gif-22789759
spicy.lemonade: no one drops on april fools
spicy.lemonade: https://liveswebench.ai/
spicy.lemonade: New benchmark
spicy.lemonade: Hooray
spicy.lemonade: I love when a new benchmark drops
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: " A recent report in Financial Times claims that Google's DeepMind "has been holding back the release of its world-renowned research" to remain competitive. Accordingly the company will adopt a six-month embargo policy "before strategic papers related to generative AI are released".
In an interesting statement, a DeepMind researcher said he could "not imagine us putting out the transformer papers for general use now". Considering the impact of the DeepMind's transformer research on the development of LLMs, just think where we would have been now if they held back the research. The report also claims that some DeepMind staff left the company as their careers would be negatively affected if they are not allowed to publish their research. "
spicy.lemonade: agi delayed by 6 months
spicy.lemonade: deepmind always posts banger papers
_cloudost: https://vxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1907327117563412944 Musk really thought this feature is useful LMAO
_cloudost: The OpenAI's Native Image Generator is far FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR MORE better than Musk's grok
st.sioux: concerning
brain4brain: This shit look so ass, I can’t believe he didn’t do this on purpose
_cloudost: The anime Version barely looks like Musk
brain4brain: It’s actually impressive how badly his team can make it with all the compute and papers they have
_cloudost: And yet they want to slow down OpenAI
_cloudost:
_cloudost: The NIG is creative as well, and understands how to replicate the personality of a fictional character, it generated a comic based on this screenshot
_cloudost:
.wolfnacht: yikes!
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.wolfnacht: Behold the 6th upcoming root race, the chinese and brazilians.
alejandrozarzuelo: the deporter in chief
also Trump has not been responsible for thousands of deaths internationally, not yet
although this can VERY easily change
futurist_wizard: Demis 🇬🇧🇬🇧
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the reason why i would give a slight edge to china is their commitment to open source AI, in part by necessity, but in large part due to ideology and geopolitics
futurist_wizard: I think you do want China to dominate
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont want either to dominare, i would prefer neither has a significant lead
.wolfnacht: wait till huawei chips catch up with nvidia's, and then i don't think it'll that that much time for china to scale up, the gpu blockade is what keeping them back.
alejandrozarzuelo: but if i had to choose china has the edge, still not the best scenario
st.sioux: lol
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/china-gif-4558537878372354201
zoermena: Which government would you prefer regardless of which is leading in AI to dominate
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but the authors of the article and myself agree this will happen by 2030, the difference is that in the AI 2027 paper they think that by 2030 the world will have an ASI god capable of thinking like a quadrillion humans
gamerbath: let's goooooo
fractalcomputer: Human goals? What human goals?
.wolfnacht:
futurist_wizard: The partizan wars
alejandrozarzuelo: between china and the US? China of course, but hegemons always turn evil, i wouldnt want the 90s but with china instead of the US
gamerbath: like fr, wouldn't this be better than the divided world we live in now? A single worldwide united nation would mean virtually no wars and peace across the globe
alejandrozarzuelo: no dude no
zoermena: I meant like, every government in the world. Beyond those two
.wolfnacht: can't wait to live under Zhonguo Shogunate, they have mandate of heaven 🥵
gamerbath: china can't be that bad
st.sioux: government mandated agi server rack
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think china will dominate that much
alejandrozarzuelo: its not about that
alejandrozarzuelo: its about hegemony being power unchecked
alejandrozarzuelo: the reason why china has a much better geopolitical situation than the US, them claiming and fulfilling the role of the leader of the developing world is because they have to
they would turn evil in an hegemony, same as the US did
hegemony of any nation is dangerous
.wolfnacht: Tell the truth, u'r just jealous of chinese efficiency 😔
alejandrozarzuelo: I think both the US and china have great but different advantages, and i dont think either one will outcompete the other in the long term
futurist_wizard: China is already just as evil without being the world hegemony. I think culturally the US just always will be dominant though
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: the us isnt dominant culturally now like it used to be anyway
futurist_wizard: In comparison to what country
alejandrozarzuelo: china has very weak cultural power tho
zoermena: True we are all anime rocking horn dogs
alejandrozarzuelo: to itself 30 years ago
futurist_wizard: Of their own doing
alejandrozarzuelo: ? why do you say that?
futurist_wizard: Isolationism and racism
alejandrozarzuelo: i think china simply has not prioritized cultural exports until recently
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wellmeaningalien: also i feel like adhd makes this 10x worse because my attention span is so short sometimes i dont wanna bother with the mental effort of coming up with things to say or continue conversations
hikukomoru: retard
hey1_1hey: aspergers
wellmeaningalien: YEAH IM LITERALLY DIAGNOSED
maintcrew: <@660521099468996656> <@505313122802728972> <@439829942310666250>
wellmeaningalien: bru pinged wrong account
wellmeaningalien: smhsmh
.wolfnacht: nice, hope it helps.
oooooooooog: what r u lot yapping about
oooooooooog: hopefully it's ninja.io right??
wellmeaningalien: we are saaad lonely spergs
hikukomoru: Autism
zoermena: I just understood.
wellmeaningalien: <a:D_cry:1194609697890779247>
wellmeaningalien: HELP US
futurist_wizard: Autistic freakshows
zoermena: Isn't aspergers ruled out as an official diagnosis now?
hey1_1hey: You say that like I have their family at gun point if they dont talk to me 😭
.wolfnacht: same. these days i cannot just sit straight and focus on reading something.
maintcrew: nerds who cant talk to ppl and should just lock tf in
zoermena: We share the same interests.
hikukomoru: Talking to people over text is not the same thing as talking IRL
futurist_wizard: Man is equating discord to irl interactions
hey1_1hey: L take
wellmeaningalien: tbh locking in has made me raise my expectations x10 and just made me x10 more disappointed i cant still talk to people lol
maintcrew: i mean thats not the point i call people retarded all the time doesnt mean they are medically retarded
hikukomoru: Also I spent like 2 years here witohut saying a single thing
oooooooooog: i suppose people do tend to talk about what reflects most deeply in their soul, so i can see how all of these people would want to talk about that
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/theodore-kaczynski-ted-kaczynski-gif-22081042
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/glittery-cute-kawaii-glitter-criminal-gif-8014006002648540397
maintcrew: nah fr u need to find ur tribe
futurist_wizard: Were you just lurking?
zoermena: Oh for the r word I know but I've never put aspergers on the same level hence the comment. I mean idk
oooooooooog: play ninja.io
wellmeaningalien: sometimes i think i should completely just give up on trying to make social relations with people cause i'm too retarded and will always be a retard. maybe i should just focus on the nerd stuff that i like and shit
hikukomoru: Nate has the worst takes ever
wellmeaningalien: tf is that
oooooooooog: best game ever
wellmeaningalien: eh
hikukomoru: Yeap
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