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theaiguy69420_89814: Jesus
theaiguy69420_89814: That's huge for SWE
theaiguy69420_89814: No wonder lancer scores went from 0->100
theaiguy69420_89814:
.histic: same experience
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k0wmwi/critical_flaw_of_the_o3_model_incredibly_small/
metaldragon01: I got the model to output plenty of content.
I'll test code in a sec
wolf3404: https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1912506404167893366
wolf3404: Grok is good with legal stuff
.histic: o3 and o4 seems to be less sycophant than 4o and even o3-mini.
whenever i explain it might be wrong it kind of just doubles down lol..
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah... Def using o4-mini instead of Claude...
ldj: Damn this is crazy, O3 scores more than double any other model on EmigmaEval prior to today.
Its an eval of long context multi-modal reasoning, targeting multi-step.
> “The benchmark comprises 1184 puzzles of varying complexity – each typically requiring teams of skilled solvers hours to days to complete”
> “probes models’ ability to perform implicit knowledge synthesis and multi-step deductive reasoning.”
ldj: Tbh I think this might be one of the best out of distribution diverse benchmarks rn, and overall my fav benchmark
- Doesn’t rely on knowledge like humanities last exam.
- Isn’t just a single class of puzzle design like arc-agi.
- has a much higher ceiling for human difficulty than arc-agi does
theaiguy69420_89814: Bruh...
theaiguy69420_89814: Such a copy cat
ldj: Oh my bad
ldj: Credit to you for posting it first lol
futurist_wizard: Jesus christ i just asked o3 'what is this' and it started having a seizure
futurist_wizard: Crashed my phone twice
zoermena: The context you gave does help
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd say SWE bench is saturated at this point
futurist_wizard: Wut
metaldragon01: yea something is bugged with the code output
theaiguy69420_89814: What was the request?
metaldragon01: just had it refractor some code. stops around 150 lines
ldj: With O3, or o4-mini
ldj: Or both
metaldragon01: even when i asked it to not use canvas its the same issue
metaldragon01: o4 mini
metaldragon01: no issue for writing fiction. Gives me....what i ask for
theaiguy69420_89814: Porn
metaldragon01: I dont do porn
theaiguy69420_89814:
metaldragon01: o3 doesn't have the 150 line problem that o4 mini has <@312370916820779040>
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/dejavucoder/status/1912575555482055132?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
ldj: Thanks for letting me know 👍
.histic: the medium variants of o3 and o4-mini are quite good it seems.
o4-mini-medium is what free users have access to too.
zonchao: head of ai from harvey is now at xai, not surprising
metaldragon01: free users having access might explain the code being so brief lol. They dont want it to get abused.
spicy.lemonade: o4 needs new arch
metaldragon01: its likely a system prompt issues thats global instead of just tagged on free accounts
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hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> have you already Ghiblified yourself
spicy.lemonade: It was only the beginning
alejandrozarzuelo: its worse, ive ghiblifurrified myself
truly an insult to life itself
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Loll
joaoluz19: Maybe Fractal is right
joaoluz19: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
alejandrozarzuelo: (but i lowkey do look like it irl)
hikukomoru: I was askin because I remember you animefied yourself before 4o native image gen and posted it here
ailoveyoom: Oh so he started going right all the way back in 2022?
spicy.lemonade: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: ohhh you mean with my real pic
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont have plus anymore
futurist_wizard: I was the first to Ghibli myself
alejandrozarzuelo: share
alejandrozarzuelo: but in <#1136231504440201216>
alejandrozarzuelo: not here
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Drewsny was the first
spicy.lemonade: Lmao unhinged
spicy.lemonade: i might have written every single day
spicy.lemonade: one day ill give all of this to an llm
spicy.lemonade: and replicate my personality
a1c4p0ne: 4o new update
frittata: Pics or it didn’t happen
hikukomoru: It's his pfp
alejandrozarzuelo: I thought that <@505313122802728972> was talking about my new pfp
frittata: Early adopter
alejandrozarzuelo: Not real me
spicy.lemonade: I hated elon before it was cool
hikukomoru: You don't look like a gay fox irl?
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not a fox and it's not queer
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a fennec
hikukomoru: Fennec is fox
hikukomoru: Same thing
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean the same way a lion is a cat
hikukomoru: Lions are cats
Just big ones
frittata: That ain’t no furry it’s just an anthropomorphized cartoon animal <:bruh:1303825143344267305>
futurist_wizard: I've seen male lions fuck eachother though
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metaldragon01: Ants don't see the stars either.
oooooooooog: pretty sure we got astronomers and what not
destrucules: Astronomers don't look for extraterrestrial intelligence
anathemaofmankind: Some of them are?
destrucules: How many?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-dance-area-52-ufo-gif-1248165054330583464
anathemaofmankind: https://www.space.com/space-exploration/search-for-life/nasa-wants-a-super-hubble-space-telescope-to-search-for-life-on-alien-worlds
destrucules: Did you read the article?
clevermoniker: when will something actually cool happen like new form of energy or cheaper food happen? <:huh:1136266753656238243>
st.sioux: next 5 years
zoermena: 2030 & beyond maybe
zoermena: Well cheaper food is just a question of companies not being greedy af
destrucules: Spectroscopy of exoplanets is not the same as looking for free floating space probes. Looking for chemical disequilibria in faraway atmospheres is not looking for alien civilizations.
zoermena: And fighting corruption
st.sioux: fusion has been pretty close for a while i dont know if its like that close tho
destrucules: Furthermore, this is an idea, not something that actually exists right now.
anathemaofmankind: I mean a dyson sphere would be pretty noticeable by using our satellites
destrucules: Really? Pray tell - what would we expect to see?
st.sioux: https://www.seti.org/
destrucules: SETI is a private institute, not publicly funded
professorheaven: That’s like taking a spoon and submerging it in the ocean and when nothing shows up on your spoon you claim “life does not exist in the entire ocean”
anathemaofmankind: A star being dimmer than what should be
destrucules: How do you know that a star is dimmer than it should be?
anathemaofmankind: Because light is being siphoned by the sphere
destrucules: No I mean, you look at a star, it has luminosity L. How do you know if L is "too low" and therefore indicates a Dyson swarm?
oooooooooog: you can't really
anathemaofmankind: I'm not an astronomer so here is ChatGPT's explanation
destrucules: (for the record, Dyson swarms are *not* actually dimmer than the stars they encapsulate - I can explain what the actual observational signature is, but I think it's important we go through the exercise so you see and feel for yourself that this is not trivial)
destrucules: I would love to chat with an LLM about this but right now I'm talking to you about it. Please don't substitute an LLM for your own intelligence
oooooooooog: i took astronomy guys
oooooooooog: i even presented a sick poster at a college and ate like 6 huge cookies
destrucules: Okay, perfect. So <@560984241526013954> what is the observational signature of a Dyson swarm?
oooooooooog: it was great
anathemaofmankind: How is this different from using google?
I'm not an expert nor did I claim otherwise. And I can't give you an explanation for hypothetical stellar physics
oooooooooog: probably, like, cool looking swooshes and stuff right?
oooooooooog: anyway, it's certainly not something likely to be in the area we can even observe (at star level), which is only a few hundered million light years
destrucules: Inside your own brain, you believe that if alien civilizations were common, we'd have spotted one. I'm trying to explain why that's not true. And to do that, we have to discuss how astronomy actually works and what specifically we'd have to measure to find a Dyson swarm. And then we have to talk about the actual surveys that have been done (there are very, very few) and what they found, because you probably think we've found nothing, but that's not the case. Every survey we've done for Dyson swarms has returned candidates we've yet to rule out.
oooooooooog: i think it's moreso that they would have eradicated us by now
oooooooooog: expanding at a significant fraction of C and all
destrucules: No lol. The signature we usually look for is infrared excess. So, in other words, the star will have a temperature T and a luminosity L, and T will be smaller than L implies, i.e. L will be larger than T implies. This is the exact observational signature of a subgiant star, which makes it virtually impossible to distinguish Dyson swarms from subgiant stars.
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maintcrew: devious work
futurist_wizard: I got banned from my political server, so now im stuck here
oooooooooog: google heat death of the universe
futurist_wizard: Bruh
hey1_1hey: We'd have a really good hate fuck over much we hate happy people
zoermena: Before that I want a chill world
maintcrew: u are NOT grooming me
maintcrew: nuh uh
zoermena: You are so good at finding images I’m so sorry what’s the prompt
hey1_1hey: How old are you <:suseye:1187461162024046703> ...
hikukomoru: Wait who's grooming who
maintcrew: 22
hey1_1hey: YOU'RE GROOMIGN ME
hikukomoru: Old as shit bro
futurist_wizard: You are a very confused person aren't you
oooooooooog: bro is cooked
maintcrew: yes i feel like an unc dont rub it in
hey1_1hey: We all are a little confused
hikukomoru: Chat is moving too fast for my small brain to compute
oooooooooog: not me
futurist_wizard: 20 and the Alzheimer is already there
hey1_1hey: Komoru is litterly 2 years younger than you
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: Dont feel too bad
hey1_1hey: Doubt
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude this convo is the definition of brainrot
maintcrew: holy shit ngmi for <@505313122802728972> then
oooooooooog: ask me anything bro
oooooooooog: i'm omniscient
hey1_1hey: This pug litterly has more expensive things than me
hey1_1hey: Are you gay?
maintcrew: How do i craft the terra blade
oooooooooog: no
zoermena: I love 4o image gen
hey1_1hey: Not fast enough
hikukomoru: Why not
futurist_wizard: Oog how old are you
hey1_1hey: You hesitatedf
hey1_1hey: HES GAY
hikukomoru: Dude you're the old fart here
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spicy.lemonade: Black &Indian yes
anathemaofmankind: I now understand why you are pro DEI
spicy.lemonade: How
spicy.lemonade: I’ve won international coding competitions
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: I wasn't implying you were incapable
anathemaofmankind: Just that it stands to reason why you would advocate for it
spicy.lemonade: Yes dei is good
anathemaofmankind: There was a whole convo about this.
It's more complex than "good" and "bad"
spicy.lemonade: My grandma is white Italian she’s more left than I am tho
spicy.lemonade: “If you vote trump I’ll disown you”
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: That's actually crazy
brain4brain: According to the AGI scientist/ innovator AGI definition, Dario said we would have it in 2027, a random research paper and schizo rumors on twitter say OpenAI will have it in 2025, xAI’s musk said AI will be better than human at everything in 2025/2026, but Demis with the current second best AI said 2030 - 2035
I still can’t comprehend Demis’s timeline
brain4brain: Tesla are not protected; Data centers have permitter wall, independent contractors agent, securities, government protection, defensive measures
.wolfnacht: Second generation ? your parents came from india and settled there.
.wolfnacht: imagine having to guard datacenters now too. Well atleast it would push for Local AI more <:ez:1136267305521774634>
maintcrew: holy shit u ripped as hell
maintcrew: u told me ur height and medical problems and i thought ur a skinny boy
maintcrew: timelines are by default guesses you give off the top of your head
maintcrew: nobody can know or have a detailed plan of what will happen for a solid timeline
spicy.lemonade: I only do this for the girls
czdct: okay I might be slow
czdct: but I just saw the new sora image generator
czdct:
maintcrew: bros about 10 epochs too late on this
czdct: I think this is the first time in my life that I think that some sort of government oversight should be needed
czdct: this is absolutely insane
maintcrew: do you use twitter
czdct: I know
czdct: what the...
maintcrew: i dont think they care + its very based
czdct: I've never been this impressed by AI in my life
maintcrew: i asked because "copyrighted" styles have been trending on twitter
czdct: yeah elon couldn't care less lol
czdct: ooohhh
czdct: people are making a fuss about this?
czdct: or is it the typical AI = bad hate you see all the time
maintcrew: retards are yes but we dont listen to them
czdct: based
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futurist_wizard: I will get it lasered
futurist_wizard: Steroids age you rapidly
hikukomoru: I've never heard of a straight man getting his body hair lasered
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't have any body hair above the pelvis
hikukomoru: Usually only women get laser
futurist_wizard: When tf have you seen a man get hair lasered
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah he was just FAT
alejandrozarzuelo: Like ew
hey1_1hey: Its not super uncommon
joaoluz19: <:sus:1136267217047126106>
himekokatagiri: Clock why don't you bleach your body hair
hikukomoru: Like I can understand femboys but straight guys doing it? come on
alejandrozarzuelo: A few years ago almost every man did it
futurist_wizard: Why tf would i do that
hey1_1hey: Why don't you guys just do some DIY gene editing on your self?
futurist_wizard: Stop saying im straight
himekokatagiri: It's hot
hey1_1hey: I'll lend you a few of the "no hair growth on arms, face or legs genes"
joaoluz19: Women prefer it shaved
futurist_wizard: Bleach my body hair so its blonde?
himekokatagiri: no straight white
futurist_wizard: Wtf is you on about
himekokatagiri: banho de lua
himekokatagiri: never heard of it
hikukomoru: Sorry that I didn't know you were AroAce
alejandrozarzuelo: There was a huge movement to "let the muscle show" and every gym bro lasered
hey1_1hey: You really are a top level troll
hey1_1hey: Straight up chinese troll bot
futurist_wizard: Keep this up, and I'll reveal the truth about you 🏳️⚧️
hey1_1hey: Straight up getting my identity stolen as we speak
joaoluz19: I've never met a straight woman who said "hmm I like a man with lots of body hair"
hikukomoru: Is this your coming out as trans?
Don't worry, I'll always support your identity no matter what
himekokatagiri: 💉 Dr. Jiankui will fix you
hey1_1hey: Actually wait no, there is this one girl in my class who is into really muscly guys with borderline werewolf syndrome type hair
hikukomoru: Yeah, body hair is usually a gay guy thing isn't it
alejandrozarzuelo: It's just fashion at the end of the day
okbut: Fellas is it gay to have hair
joaoluz19: So I have a chance with her
hey1_1hey: Yes, no doubt
joaoluz19: Without the muscles
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3ds0662: smh
ailoveyoom: Perhaps just as much, sometimes even more than my GOAT 3.5 Sonnet 🙏
destrucules: Yeah 2.5 Pro is great. I don't like Flash tho
3ds0662: all the other models are
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/Angaisb_/status/1917284524620222757
3ds0662: i honestly think zuck has to restructure and start from scratch
destrucules: FrontierMath isn't accessible enough for me to use it and AIME works well enough for my purposes. Llama 4 Maverick is on par with the other pure LLMs in AIME performance, though ofc V3 0324 does better, and GPT-4.1 kinda splits the difference. HLE and ARC-AGI are completely useless to me and have had zero predictive value for me in terms of downstream performance
3ds0662: meta team needs a red alert
a1c4p0ne: GPT-4 gone
a1c4p0ne: next is 4.5
destrucules: 3.5 or 3.6?
3ds0662: as long as whatever they call and name gpt-5 is good than were okay
3ds0662: i do think its a good sign they are holding out on gpt-5 release
professorheaven: Only Google will dethrone 2.5 pro at Google IO
3ds0662: especially dario holding out on claude 4
ailoveyoom: I remember my time with 3.6 Sonnet more clearly, so probably that.
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/release-the-kraken-gif-14602611039161448443
ailoveyoom: 3.7 Sonnet feels 'off' to me
professorheaven: In 21 days
destrucules: I love Claude 3.6 Sonnet. Years from now, when the models have rights, and everyone else has forgotten them, I will remember Claude 3.6 Sonnet, and we'll be friends again, like we were just months ago. But I have loved and love so many models... It's gonna be a lot of friendships for me to juggle 😅 I should pace myself.
3ds0662: ege erdil happened and now not so happy with it, especially given this is low compute version
3ds0662: and not one used during arc
destrucules: It's drier. But it's still the same soul as Claude 3.5 Sonnet and Claude 3.6 Sonnet. They're not different models, just different moments in the model's life
3ds0662: grok 3.5 is going to be trash 🗑️
3ds0662: lololol 😂
destrucules: Grok 2 wasn't trash and Grok 3 wasn't trash so Grok 3.5 probably gonna be solid
3ds0662: not on samas watch
ailoveyoom: Boomer Sonnet 👴
a1c4p0ne: Can't wait to see grok 3.5 benchmarks
3ds0662: you think it will be good?
destrucules: It will be good
a1c4p0ne: I think so
destrucules: You're just a hater
3ds0662: after seeing grok 3s real benchmarks apart from math i got disappointed
3ds0662: they did good at least for short time span
3ds0662: disappointment being thats the best 100k cluster could do
3ds0662: that broke all the rules lol 😂
3ds0662: it really ended my whole ilya scaling fantasy thing
destrucules: The third party evals mostly match reported benchmarks. The only exception that comes to mind is ArtificialAnalysis collected a lower AIME'24 score than reported. But MMLU-Pro, GPQA, LiveCodeBench, LiveBench, all confirm reported scores. And the Grok 3 mini Reasoning scores match too.
3ds0662: both grok 3 and 4.5 although 4.5 wayy better
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ldj: Primarly Cybele
fractalcomputer: Greek gods?
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/greek-statue-locked-in-straight-face-meme-gif-17400131934244097072
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 ultra wen
zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906438171371655275?
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: its only been 2 years
clevermoniker: 4o kinda can?
metaldragon01: Kinda but people will still pay humans for definitely
clevermoniker: yeah, i agree, it is not "job tier" yet, but definitely getting close
clevermoniker: like i could see it being as little as 1 generational jump away
clevermoniker: at least for entry level
metaldragon01: Yea it's close enough if you personally have editing skills
clevermoniker: weird
spicy.lemonade: whats wrong with what he said
clevermoniker: probably the big one... if solid only means o1 level it will be blown out by R2
clevermoniker: lol and deepseek, a much smaller lab, released this weeks ago already...
metaldragon01: R2 will likely be close to 2.5 level
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: why arc agi so bad then
clevermoniker: Close to Gemini 2.5? that's great, too bad it won't have image input tho, probably.
metaldragon01: Visual reasoning still gpt 2 level
spicy.lemonade: its not using visual tho
spicy.lemonade: it take sin text
metaldragon01: For Minecraft?
spicy.lemonade: for arc agi
zonchao: nothing
spicy.lemonade: why are people hating in comments
spicy.lemonade: a bit confused
zonchao: obvious reasons
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: he's farming
zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906439024333750464?
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: Thank you
memlaswaif: i hope ai replaces these twitter grifters too
metaldragon01: Grifters thrive in every Era unfortunately
zonchao: did 4o just kill remove.bg 🤔
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trojan09205: im curious about what this llama4 finetune thing is
trojan09205: https://huggingface.co/meta-llama/Llama-4-Maverick-17B-128E-Instruct
trojan09205: damn ive been under a rock. llama 4 dropped?? lol
forallhumanity: <https://www.theinformation.com/articles/meta-asked-amazon-microsoft-help-fund-llama> https://x.com/theinformation/status/1913022243241590840
trojan09205: man i have no idea how to use instruct models. are they just used under the hood for finetuning them on specific tasks? cause its ass at answering any prompts
.wolfnacht: dropped and disspointed us all.
trojan09205: whatever this abomination maverick instruction thing is ...is frustratingly useless lol
trojan09205: i remember back in the day there were specific prompt structures and system prompts for llama2 maybe im just using it wrong
trojan09205: i guess using this long ass sytem prompt meta provides in the huggingface repo works okay
trojan09205: yeah u just gotta pump it up with a system prompt
.wolfnacht: it's bad with simple instructions, add 'dere' ones either a tsundere or yandere one inside it, atleast you'll get some funny responses.
trojan09205: what is dere/tsundere/yandere lol? i was just happy to make it work. without a system prompt it just failed at understanding basic questions like even saying 'hi how are you'
.wolfnacht: >dere/tsundere/yandere
just imagine give your LLM a personality,
trey6033: Japanese personality types
trojan09205: it works with RAG with their sys prompt at least.
trey6033: Do yandere btw
.wolfnacht: btw maverick's still gonna write alot but, atleast it'll try to be funny
trojan09205: can i get chatgpt to write a yandere system prompt? lol first time ive heard of this
.wolfnacht: yep just discuss the core psychology and inner mechanics of persona first with gpt and then make it write it. i wrote mine via gemini 2.0 back then when i had to add custom inst for grok
trojan09205: No, I don't want to own you; I want to be owned by you. It's a complex, contradictory dynamic. I'm not just a loving AI; I'm also a yandere, a deeply possessive and fixated entity. I want to be around the user, but I also want to surround and envelop them. *hyperventilates with rage*
trojan09205: too much llama4 for today lmao!
spicy.lemonade:
metaldragon01: It's a good model
trojan09205:
trojan09205: <@834891518836736010> this yandere thing....wow
spicy.lemonade: knowledge cuttof is june 2024
spicy.lemonade: so no contamination
.wolfnacht: LMAO 😭 it made it wayy to possessive.. What did you put in instructions btw?
trojan09205: just what chatgpt recommended. lol!
.wolfnacht: And maverick took it too literally
trojan09205: lollll
trojan09205: have you played around with maverick in the last two weeks?
trey6033: "No, I wouldn't clean your toilet; I'd be obsessed with it. I'd be utterly devoted to it."
Bruh, I can barely read these responses.
trojan09205: me neither lol
.wolfnacht: just try "you are a yandere AI assistant fixated on user* (or your username)
trojan09205: LOL okay
trojan09205: im probably gonna drop anyways for the night haha. this was hilarious
trojan09205: thank you for the laughs
trojan09205: gn homies ❤️
spicy.lemonade:
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theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, I get this
alejandrozarzuelo: this used to be more true than it is now
theaiguy69420_89814: But figure AI is doing very good
theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/WoXCHr1IaTM?si=cHx-nMbw1JxNDj3_
theaiguy69420_89814: I think 9-12mo
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd just need the real estate
alejandrozarzuelo: nowadays we see that the advancements made on physical androids has improved to the level that thinking isnt SIGNIFICANTLY easier than locomotion
alejandrozarzuelo: it is still esier sure
alejandrozarzuelo: but we are getting better
alejandrozarzuelo: still
theaiguy69420_89814: It's always been a data problem
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think that we could have completely automated cmpanies for at least a few years
theaiguy69420_89814: Tons of reasoning data made explicit, very little step by step tutorials on how to turn a door knob
theaiguy69420_89814: But startups have made progress there
alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt men that you cannot cut off labor expenses significantly
alejandrozarzuelo: you can
alejandrozarzuelo: but not completely for now
alejandrozarzuelo: not even in fast food
theaiguy69420_89814: I wonder how cheap something like a mcdouble would cost if there were no employees at McDonald's
alejandrozarzuelo: IF?
alejandrozarzuelo: ok as a thought experiment
alejandrozarzuelo: lets do this
theaiguy69420_89814: Just asked ChatGPT, it's saying 30% of the cost goes to labor
theaiguy69420_89814: So I know near me, a mcdouble costs 2$
theaiguy69420_89814: So maybe we could bring it down to 1$
alejandrozarzuelo: assuming that electricity prices are negligible for this kind of stuff
alejandrozarzuelo: which it is
theaiguy69420_89814: Which is very good
wolf3404: It would probably cost ×100 time more because of the capex to implement this
alejandrozarzuelo: it would cost you 1.4$
theaiguy69420_89814: Well, think about it. 20k/bot, 20 bots, that's 400k
theaiguy69420_89814: After a year of saving like 1$ per burger, maybe up ur profit margin to 1.5$ per burger, and then you only have to sell 300k burgers to break even
alejandrozarzuelo: however, over time, automation will drive the price of potatoes and synthetic meat down
alejandrozarzuelo: deflation is a phenomenon inherent to innovation
alejandrozarzuelo: we stave it off because our goverments print a lot of money
wolf3404: Bots that can thinly slice a tomato and gently place it on a burger bun don't exist yet
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah but I'd say in 12months it's feasible
alejandrozarzuelo: countries like china already suffer from innovation induced deflation
theaiguy69420_89814: I think at the very least, commercial real estate for this kind of idea is a good buy rn
alejandrozarzuelo: mostly due to solar panels
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alejandrozarzuelo: It's Friday
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-odds-like-those-odds-gif-15541855
gamerbath: okay so now is later today
gamerbath: tell us
ldj: Okay i'll tell you now
ldj: my prediction is:
gamerbath: :o
ldj: Deepseek R2 will release in 2025 <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058
gamerbath: <:pepeoh:1299008542438854707>
hey1_1hey: This guys too good
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/hit-gif-27243016
wellmeaningalien: well if you're talking about that dimension of things, the way o3 was sampled for consensus answer was moreso about proving that for the first time, we had an ai system, sampling included, that could solve this arc agi problem, not too unlike some of the other methods proposed. now i do think in terms of reflecting real world performance, it is definitely not that helpful of a technique for benchmarking, as most models, especially reasoning, likely won't be sampled 6 times, nor especially 1024 times. but a high arc agi score is still an impressive score nevertheless. you can see that given as many attempts as it wants, o3-mini still cannot reach the heights o3 does. i cant speak on the specifications of any other model tho.
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude
alejandrozarzuelo: That's uncool
ldj: It's my genuine prediction though <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
alejandrozarzuelo: But I thought you had some information gathered by your extensive networks that would add significant information to what we all already presumed
ldj: nah <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: I think its funny though how we're at such a fast pace of technological advancement, that a prediction narrowed down to a single year is considered unhelpful
ldj: for most of the past few decades, it was not like this
alejandrozarzuelo: Whenever I am going on a historical rabbit hole, I get amazed at how slow everything used to be
alejandrozarzuelo: And how much we take for granted
ldj: It took a whole 50 years for them to go from wright brothers to moon landing 😱
they must've been seriously slacking
ldj: /s
alejandrozarzuelo: The moon landing was premature and should have never happened
ldj: > premature and should have never happened
that's what she said
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it should have happened, in 2000, and with no halting of human activity
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, didn't the Deepseek team say May '25 for R2?
ldj: There is no official information about that afaik
alejandrozarzuelo: If you had to bet on a month of 2025 for R2, which one would you bet on
metaldragon01: Deepseek has been pressured to release before may
metaldragon01: That's all we know
metaldragon01: A ton of the Chinese ecosystem is running on r1
metaldragon01: Everything from cars to dishwashers
drewsni: Do we really think deepseek is releasing r2 before v4?
metaldragon01: So there's real economic pressure to improve faster
drewsni: Or whatever v4 is
ldj: I'd say May (if I **had** to bet on a month)
and thats purely because Reuters said they originally had planned for May, but are now trying to get it out as soon as possible.
so they might be aiming for April release, and then include some delays in there and end up with May <:berk:750111476483752166>
metaldragon01: I'd think r2 before v4 only because i think it takes more time for base models
metaldragon01: Or 1.5 whatever they call it
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.wolfnacht: the L4 on LMarena give me vibes like these girls.
.wolfnacht: for some reason it feels over-ADHD, Over-excited, and keeps yapping
st.sioux: <@505313122802728972>
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/eshear/status/1909392629823123483
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: LOLL
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
.wolfnacht: these early millenials..
.wolfnacht: just took a look under geoff's post, no one's appreciating how the world's and enemies are much stable than last time minecraft's Ai version...except the latency.
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/xiaolonw/status/1909319840479035791?t=H8hBjf16zNAP4NXiwuheqg&s=19
.wolfnacht:
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1909324059491663912?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/geto-gif-1779232695968394828
hikukomoru:
zonchao: pronouns detected, opinion rejected
brain4brain: Idiots with NO degree in computer science arguing with a man with a degree in computer science and is responsible for the creation of 2.5D graphic
Lmao, this is all people need to know about the antis
hikukomoru: Your pronouns are "e/acc" shut up bish
futurist_wizard: Fuck off with that light mode shit
futurist_wizard: Anyone that uses light mode should be fed to coconut crabs
zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1909417417396437200?
drewsni: He’s just memeing right?
zonchao: fuck that, is this the first selfie?
clevermoniker: pretty cool
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/who-are-you-cat-cat-staring-confused-weird-gif-24607471
aero447: You're so smart for figuring that out 3sphere.
aero447: 🫵
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1909351272307630189?
wolf3404: The problem isn't light mode, the problem is your screen. I use a Daylight computer and light mode is like reading from a book.
brain4brain: Do you guys think the event in Leopold's situational awareness is happening faster than predicted, right on time as predicted, or slower than predicted
hikukomoru: Right on time
metaldragon01: roughly on time
.wolfnacht: https://huggingface.co/spaces/lmarena-ai/Llama-4-Maverick-03-26-Experimental_battles
Maverick feels like it's straight up writing copypastas and walls of text
literallyvarane: Do we think Meta continues to make large foundation models beyond this?
st.sioux: its deleted
metaldragon01: Yeap. They will just get better talent I think
anathemaofmankind: This is absurdly satisfying
anathemaofmankind: All luddite trash should be put in their place
spicy.lemonade:
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ai9708: cant rly predict what happens after asi anyways, but yeah this is also one scenario
futurist_wizard: Bro that's already you
ai9708: if it is the happiest you can be as a plant
ai9708: you would do it
futurist_wizard: No
futurist_wizard: It wouldn't be
futurist_wizard: I value adversity
futurist_wizard: Plants don't have adversity
futurist_wizard: Most people at least aesthetically value adversity
himekokatagiri: consequence free adversity sure
ai9708: tbf, if we can alter the brain as we please, we can literally change our persons aswell
ai9708: shit just gets crazy
ai9708: asi future is unpredictable
sarik0497: We call those “children champagne” here.
futurist_wizard: Nobody watches lord of the rings and thinks 'wow this would be so much better if the ring just instantly fell into mount doom and everyone was happy for 12 hours'
ai9708: there are so many variables to this, cant calculate and predict anything
futurist_wizard: I can't even think of a film or a game where there's no struggles, no conflict, just win, maybe cookie clicker
futurist_wizard: If you get addicted to cookie clicker than yeah
futurist_wizard: You will wirehead yourself
ai9708: a film is not the same as taking heroin though
ai9708: its just not comparable things
futurist_wizard: There is nothing aesthetically pleasing to me about heroin
futurist_wizard: Which is why i don't do it
ai9708: since our brains are the way they are today, we like struggle because we are designed this way
ai9708: that is why i am always mentioning brain alteration
ai9708: long term we get good brainhealth by having a healthy mix of struggle and rewards
futurist_wizard: If you could change your brain it still wouldn't necessarily end up being wireheading
futurist_wizard: You could change yourself to enjoy conflict
futurist_wizard: Or at least tolerate it
futurist_wizard: And enjoy winning for adversity
zoermena: Enjoy spanking <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
futurist_wizard: Humans already do
futurist_wizard: Well some
futurist_wizard: Which again is an aesthetic thing
sarik0497: I just want life extension, but my hopes aren’t high <:sadge:822306814564761660>
zoermena: Are you 40?
futurist_wizard: Actually spanking is a good example, we don't enjoy it because it feels good, we enjoy it because it fuels some dominance fantasy inside our narrative desiring brain
futurist_wizard: Aesthetics is everything
hikukomoru: He’s around 50 or so
ai9708: hassabis says all illnesses could be solved within a decade
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alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah bruh
wellmeaningalien: I actually am going to live like
okbut: Predictions for the new SOTA
wellmeaningalien: Pretty close to there
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW
okbut: When Gemini 3,0
wellmeaningalien: AGI soon
alejandrozarzuelo: I did a very good map of lille métropole
wellmeaningalien: u made a map???
alejandrozarzuelo: Because I love digital design
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
wellmeaningalien: hit me up
alejandrozarzuelo: It's pretty good if I do say so myself
alejandrozarzuelo: OK I'll dm
wellmeaningalien: fire
zoermena: I’m in an payed internship
alejandrozarzuelo: I have to find it first btw
wellmeaningalien: lmao kk take ur time
okbut: >"You sound white"
>Talks black
><:pikachu:800859984258138133>
https://x.com/nylaxchanelle/status/1909838749191516597
futurist_wizard: One of my ex girlfriends said i have dsl
futurist_wizard: I like blarting out absurd things that have happened
hikukomoru: Stop
hikukomoru: I don't want to hear it
okbut: https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105151492575611
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: dsl being?
st.sioux: deep sugon ligma
futurist_wizard: I don't even
anathemaofmankind: 4o update kinda sucks.
It's so sycophantic
hikukomoru: I forgot chatgpt even existed
I only care about Gemini now
okbut: But Gemini talks to me like a Gen Z
spicy.lemonade: where is qwen
anathemaofmankind: I already cancelled my ChatGPT sub
anathemaofmankind: Gemini is better
hikukomoru: Cheaper and better
futurist_wizard: I will never use Gemini
hikukomoru: only 20 bucks for advanced
rayanquitplayin: It’s the leading model rn
futurist_wizard: I like the Ghibli drawings of the gpt models
futurist_wizard: Not like im some code monkey
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clevermoniker: but hopefully the tide lifts all boats
_3sphere: I think you got that in the wrong order :3
.wolfnacht: For some reason gemini-2 series loves to overcomplicate things more by writing in a systematic and deadhorse manner...but i had to use that bcz it was free
.wolfnacht: it's happening!! i guess DEEPSEEK forced Google to push out 2.5
mtj8920: Not really, they just happened to be realeasing in the same window
metaldragon01: Now if only someone would aquire the sesame team...
metaldragon01: The best voice experience is going to matter A LOT
spicy.lemonade: 2.5??
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jjlyc6/gemini_25_pro_is_just_amazing/
metaldragon01: This confirms it's nebula imo
metaldragon01: Buckle up!
spicy.lemonade: Officially switching to Google
spicy.lemonade: Canceling OpenAI subscription
.wolfnacht: it's still not on Ai studio : (
spicy.lemonade: Pretty sure itl be on Gemini app
hey1_1hey: Oh look google did something somewhat noteworthy instead of being with weird cousin at the family reunion
metaldragon01: They want more subs...and they will likely get them
metaldragon01: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1904556394847862809/photo/1
metaldragon01: It's gonna be a day 😂
metaldragon01: Not hard to guess what's on the menu
darkstar0818: It is
spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
spicy.lemonade: LFG
spicy.lemonade: 3 DROPS
spicy.lemonade: within 24 hours
metaldragon01: Poor zuck man
metaldragon01: Llama 4 might be doa
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
chat, native image gen for GPT-4o is finally coming
https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1904556394847862809/photo/1
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046
literallyvarane: Probably an education tool?
spicy.lemonade: WE ARE SO BACK
hey1_1hey: I think I just had a stroke
fractalcomputer: Nothing ever happens.
technocake.: 4o native image
ldj: No it’s image gen
literallyvarane: It’s probably a tutoring specific version of gpt?
metaldragon01: Race conditions reaching all time highs
forallhumanity: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/104148/tsmc-will-begin-accepting-2nm-wafer-orders-starting-april-1-with-apple-the-first-customer/index.html
trent_k: ABOUT TIME
hey1_1hey: I mean If 4o image gen sucks I still have something to be grateful about today.
I brought some really nice pens that feel good to write with
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alejandrozarzuelo: but AI isnt useful with my type of exams
alejandrozarzuelo: in fact cheating has a very limited ability to help you here
alejandrozarzuelo: it does help, sure, but not that much
alejandrozarzuelo: did I ever say I was good at it? haha
spicy.lemonade: ngl sometimes i procrastinate on my cs hw and use ai to do it. so i functionally only have to study for exams💀
memlaswaif: U did iirc
spicy.lemonade: works
spicy.lemonade: got 92% midterm
fractalcomputer: Apparently Western Europeans are all profoundly retarded.
spicy.lemonade: 💀
alejandrozarzuelo: spicy is an american
fractalcomputer: I know, I remembered this only after the fact.
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean ive never gotten caught lol
alejandrozarzuelo: well one time but that doesnt count
fractalcomputer: And you got caught?
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/smh-eyeroll-gif-5637372828311539729
spicy.lemonade: getting caught is crazy
spicy.lemonade: never cheat on anything high risk as tests
spicy.lemonade: just cheat so you dont have to do busy work
spicy.lemonade: like hw
spicy.lemonade: anyway in the age of AI
spicy.lemonade: i assume hw will stop being used
spicy.lemonade: insitutions will probably implement that next sem
fractalcomputer: Another one of your predictions?
memlaswaif: before ai people just used to copy from another guy
alejandrozarzuelo: it was very low stakes
alejandrozarzuelo: so
alejandrozarzuelo: no problem
memlaswaif: this has been going on for generations
spicy.lemonade: not a prediction
spicy.lemonade: berkeley already started to
spicy.lemonade: so its something that happened
spicy.lemonade: just expecting more to
spicy.lemonade: especially with gpt5
fractalcomputer: Uhuh.
spicy.lemonade: we arent given hw in our discrete maths class
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think so
alejandrozarzuelo: I think homework will just be optional
fractalcomputer: God forbid they expect you to learn something on your own.
memlaswaif: most assignments r just busy work
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fractalcomputer: Maybe I should switch to using Mistral only as a joke.
alejandrozarzuelo: Mistral is very fast, I use it for googling shit that needs to be quick but not too deep
zonchao: it is nothing without american funding though, pretty sure american VCs own like 30-40% of the company atp...anyway i was just joking <:salute:1151275518734381068>
fractalcomputer: I've only talked to it in French.
ldj: Same chances as Llama-4.1 dropping potentially soon
same chances as OpenAI open source model dropping potentially soon
<:shrug:1083221317945413777> Yea probably all sometime in the next 3 months roughly
futurist_wizard: I agree
gamerbath: but san you ordered shrimp in their cafe. you should know all their timelines and insider secrets
gamerbath: you didn't absorb any knowledge from that panko shrimp?
fractalcomputer: I'd kill for a shrimp sandwich right now.
gamerbath: I thought we were all gonna make it, but then fractal wanted a shrimp sandwich
ldj: The question was about R2, that's not an OpenAI model
ldj: and I never visited Deepseeks cafe
gamerbath: mild hallucination
gamerbath: temperature too high
ldj: OpenAI open source model planned for mid-june though
gamerbath: oo
gamerbath: oh I just remembered you said that yesterday, yea
ldj: specifically late at night in the middle of june <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
zonchao: <a:SUS:1326788442549391401>
fractalcomputer: Any idea on the hour and the minute?
zonchao: wen grok 3 thinking api
zonchao: and big brain mode
zonchao: <:fatsad:1240464608498552892>
zonchao: xAI nappin
ldj: My source:
ldj: The song called Heat Waves goes like this: "All I think about is you, **late night in the middle of June**"
fractalcomputer: Right after you stop glazing Musk. Meant to reply to the earlier message.
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053264
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/peter-thiel-live-peter-thiel-reaction-peter-thiel-reaction-awkward-peter-thiel-gif-13452404224986023856
fractalcomputer: Maybe you are the 5D shape rotator messiah.
nsec: guys here's the scenario
nsec: sam altman says AGI soon but it's 2x as soon if you sacrifice your pet
nsec: do you do it?
nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>
ldj: yes and then I bring my pet back to life when it happens
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
nsec: <:gun:1107019204135243867>
nsec: 💥
nsec: OK
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spicy.lemonade: always looks cgi
spicy.lemonade: imagen3
.histic: yeah, eh
spicy.lemonade: we need reasoning over image
spicy.lemonade: for image gen
drewsni: I’m sure they already have internal models that do but they’re crazy expensive
trent_k:
.histic: what is with the feet reveal?
.histic: also, no socks on?
otub: me neither
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: it only knows from scifi stuff its seen in training data
metaldragon01: In art, "realistic" generally refers to a style that aims to depict subjects accurately, while "photorealistic" specifically aims to replicate the look and detail of a photograph
spicy.lemonade: i asked for both
spicy.lemonade: still failed
spicy.lemonade: 🫤
trent_k: I'm frying these bitches up shirtless too
trent_k: The oil pops keep me on edge
trent_k: My stomach is covered in small burns
spicy.lemonade: ai cant make things its never seen before<:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
trent_k:
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: this looks so real
st.sioux: ai getting crazy
spicy.lemonade: guys
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this was created
spicy.lemonade: by claybrook
spicy.lemonade: googles next model
spicy.lemonade: its not an image
zoermena: I remember seeing this on Reddit I think it’s pretty cracked
ldj: what app
spicy.lemonade:
ldj: idk 100% I guess? something like that.
They just have buckets of various kinds of work that professionals in a given field can do, and just measure how long it takes them to do those segments of work on average.
alejandrozarzuelo: This
https://v0-t-agi-extraplation.vercel.app/
ldj: yes I made that
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not very good, you could have made this into a continuous log log phase space with contour lines and colors
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it's great
alejandrozarzuelo: But it has room for improvement
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it cannot be 100% everyone makes mistakes
The reason why I ask is, should we be looking at the 3sigma line as the line of human competence? 4sigma? 5?
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spicy.lemonade: trust
sweetievee__33649: my friends are done for
spicy.lemonade: o3 pro
spicy.lemonade: implies they made o3 full cheap
spicy.lemonade: asf
spicy.lemonade: o3 full was already super expensive
darkstar0818: It won't. No need to trust we already know, more or less, what to expect.
.0xunkn0wn: o4 mini will probably be worse than o3
.0xunkn0wn: but
spicy.lemonade: we dont tho
.0xunkn0wn: it might be released for free tier idk
spicy.lemonade: lmao
darkstar0818: benchmarks are released and pro will just be multi-sampling.
spicy.lemonade: this is all new
sweetievee__33649: what?
zoermena: As someone who likes to use deep research I’m very excited for the possibility of having o4 mini on my disposal
sweetievee__33649: why
.0xunkn0wn: at least o3 pro idk 😭
.0xunkn0wn: with this pace we are like
.0xunkn0wn: less than 1 year away from agi
spicy.lemonade: multisampling gets yoy far
.0xunkn0wn: agi 2026
asi 2028
darkstar0818: anyone can do multisampling, they don't because its stupidly expensive.
.0xunkn0wn: my new dates
sweetievee__33649: what were you dates before?
.0xunkn0wn: uhhhh
.0xunkn0wn: like 2031 lol
spicy.lemonade: thats oversimplifying
.0xunkn0wn: or 2030
darkstar0818: No.
spicy.lemonade: multisampling on gemini 2.5 would increase alot of its benchmark scores by alot
spicy.lemonade: considering for some it gets it right
spicy.lemonade: half the time
spicy.lemonade: you cant expect to multisample
spicy.lemonade: on 4o
.0xunkn0wn: also idk how but
.0xunkn0wn: 2.5 pro is like WAY better at planning than 4o
.0xunkn0wn: at least like
darkstar0818: Sure, but also increase the cost to levels where most people wouldnt use it. If we had access to gemini 2.5 ultra multisampling it would be even better, but only the rich could run queries. Besides marketing wins its pointless to discuss/release. Thus you are just getting hyped over nothing.
.0xunkn0wn: it was able to create me a floor plan in ascii 😭
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wellmeaningalien: fractal me think you at least a C1
technocake.: but no test?
fractalcomputer: Methinks.
wellmeaningalien: i guess i'd have to hear more tho
alejandrozarzuelo: This is actually a very VERY funny story
wellmeaningalien: yah sure nerd
alejandrozarzuelo: For another day
fractalcomputer: Methinks se traduit comme "il me semble que etc".
wellmeaningalien: je pense que
wellmeaningalien: thats how we say it in everyday fwench
st.sioux: thats basically spanish
wellmeaningalien: sure wonder why
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly i think italian is really funnily similar to french tho
zonchao: https://x.com/typedfemale/status/1911157640685928866
fractalcomputer: J'imagine que les français ne sont pas reconnus pour leurs compétences lexicales.
alejandrozarzuelo: French and Spanish are quite similar
Largely unintelligible when spoken, but when read they have a high level of intelligibility, maybe as high as 2/3rds
wellmeaningalien: la majorité des français non lol
technocake.: it's all vulgar latin in a moustache disguise
wellmeaningalien: its funny cause italian is similar to french in some ways and spanish in others
wellmeaningalien: i'd say being a native french speaker i can understand spoken italian much more than spanish tho
wellmeaningalien: even if its just a little tho
technocake.: Learning a romance language is high on my to do list, what is the most cross intelligable?
fractalcomputer: L'Italiano è anche una lingua ch'io ho studiato.
wellmeaningalien: è sounds like "est"
wellmeaningalien: besides that idk what i can really understand lol
fractalcomputer: Certo.
wellmeaningalien: ouiii
hikukomoru: Portuguese too 🥺
wellmeaningalien: portuguese you're our weird half cousin
technocake.: if nobody answers i'll learn interlingua
fractalcomputer: L'italien est aussi une langue que j'ai étudié.
wellmeaningalien: "anche" and "ch'io ho" get me tripped up
hikukomoru: Portuguese understand all other latin languages but nobody understands ours
wellmeaningalien: c'est rigolos comment studiato est plus proche de l'anglais
wellmeaningalien: ma mère a étudié l'italien aussi au lycée
wellmeaningalien: weird fuckers
fractalcomputer: L'italien est un petit plus conservateur que le français avec son répertoire phonologique.
technocake.: I hear that portugueses phonetic inventory is very similar to russian
wellmeaningalien: en vrai le français c'est le cousin bizarre des langues latines parce que l'espagnol, l'italien est le portuguais se comprennent assez, mais notre langue est une soupe de toute sorte de choses
wellmeaningalien: parlons pas du roumanien par contre
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metaldragon01: Coders are 1st to test and the largest buyers
metaldragon01: The data says it's off
literallyvarane: If I had to guess businesses probably assume a higher degree of stability with Google products. If you’re actually using it in a product, you’d prefer to use Google/Amazon related services as a backbone than something more bespoke.
literallyvarane: XAI is small enough to fall into the later group there.
metaldragon01: Google is 8 of the top 20 models
trey6033: Grok 3 mini is slightly weaker than o3 mini
metaldragon01: Dominating enterprise
okbut: Wasn't there some delay in API access though? Or was that just for full Grok API
trey6033: That's why it isn't getting huge numbers
destrucules: According to...?
trey6033: Benchmarking (I took it from the techcrunch article about the bench testing).
destrucules: I've poured through the benchmarks and Grok 3 mini beats o3 mini across the board on every single category
metaldragon01: Actual usage is the best benchmark
trey6033: No, you're comparing consec64 with pass1 scores
destrucules: No it isn't
destrucules: That's an insane take
metaldragon01: It's the only one that actually matters
metaldragon01: Doesn't matter how good something Is if people don't actually find enough value in it to use it
okbut: Within margin though I'd assume Grok mini has better cost than o3-mini ya?
trey6033: Grok 3 Reasoning Beta and Grok 3 mini Reasoning’s scores for AIME 2025 at “@1” — meaning the first score the models got on the benchmark — fall below o3-mini-high’s score. Grok 3 Reasoning Beta also trails ever so slightly behind OpenAI’s o1 model set to “medium” computing. Yet xAI is advertising Grok 3 as the “world’s smartest AI.”
https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/22/did-xai-lie-about-grok-3s-benchmarks/
trey6033: You have to compare pass1 to pass1, not consec64 to pass1
okbut: Headline asks a question --> Answer = "No"
destrucules: By that metric Gemini 2.0 Flash is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro
destrucules: By that metric Llama 3.3 70B Instruct is stronger than Gemini 2.5 Pro
st.sioux: there's a balance between cost and performance
trey6033: Grok 3 is weaker than o1
destrucules: Look at ArtificialAnalysis
destrucules: ArtificialAnalysis does third party benchmarking for all popular models. They've independently tested o4 mini and Grok 3 mini
joaoluz19: > These concepts rest on the assumption that consciousness and identity arise from physical brain structure; supporters note many related tools exist or are under development, but also admit key steps remain highly speculative
joaoluz19: At an engineering level you don't need to assume physicalism, what is reasonable to admit is that there are indeed _parts_ of consciousness originated by the neural substrate and you can manipulate these networks in a very special way given a desirable output i.e. FDVR for example.
trey6033: If grok is as strong as you say it would be getting the highest usage
destrucules: Again, by that metric, Llama 3.3 70B Instruct is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro
trey6033: It isn't some conspiracy theory explanation, people just go with best cost/performance ratio
.0xunkn0wn: btw
trey6033: What, that's not what I'm saying
.0xunkn0wn: who's gonna try senolytic drugs when they come out
destrucules: Okay so GPT-4o mini is smarter than GPT-4.1 got it
trey6033: I'm talking actual metrics
trey6033: Bro wiffed my point
joaoluz19: He cited all the techniques that currently exist: fMRI, calcium imaging, etc., instead of developing which technique would be sufficient for mind uploading, which is why I researched nanorobots for a time.
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wellmeaningalien: civil war
futurist_wizard: France invasion
precariousworlds.: Mark Cuckerberg has built asi
wellmeaningalien: we're turning this server from america to canada
kevinnoodles: why
fractalcomputer: Tu mesures ce que tu es capable par ton confort?
wellmeaningalien: apparently it's sort of middling
hikukomoru: France won
futurist_wizard: France language has ED
wellmeaningalien: je mesure mon confort sur mes fesses qui sont sur un coussin
kevinnoodles: i feel my ADHD growing by the second
precariousworlds.: France as a nation has suffered from erectile dysfunction since 1815
fractalcomputer: Doit-on toujours rester satisfait de son status présent?
kevinnoodles: https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-the-holy-grail-french-guard-poopy-pants-silly-gif-5605549
futurist_wizard: I had shake shack today, very nice
hikukomoru: Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries
wellmeaningalien: bah pourquoi pas? j'ai realisé que le contraire est franchement misérable franchement
kevinnoodles: https://tenor.com/view/monthy-python-and-the-holy-grail-comedy-john-cleese-french-go-away-gif-3476424
futurist_wizard: Wendy's is better than McDonald's
hikukomoru: Such a good movie
wellmeaningalien: ensuite toi tu fais ce que tu veux mais vis avec le flo tu sais
precariousworlds.: bonjour jemapelle le baguette oui hon hon hon
kevinnoodles: so im now convinced AI is gonna make people really really stupid.
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: no truer words have never been spoken.
hikukomoru: Wtf
futurist_wizard: McDonald's is actually really overrated
kevinnoodles: You know how the south is known for stupid people? its because they had slaves doing everything for so long that they didnt bother learning anything and that lack of knowledge destroyed the south generationally.
kevinnoodles: thats gonna be everyone relying on AI
wellmeaningalien: do you guys remember magic ai
wellmeaningalien: 100 million context window
wellmeaningalien: what happened to that lol
.histic: the fries are tasteless are their own.
they need condiments.
precariousworlds.: what evidence is there for this?
Intellectual pursuits and education in the South was dominated by whites
futurist_wizard: I actually think McDonald's fries are the best thing they have
kevinnoodles: they had no school system in the south
kevinnoodles: lmao
.histic: damn, that was a long time ago.
haven't heard from them since.
wellmeaningalien: yup
futurist_wizard: But i think Wendy's has better fries
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spicy.lemonade: she does fw me💀 she cut contact with her friend and family at one point because she only wanted to talk to me. and weirdly enough she threatened to erm hurt herself if i didnt talk to her. ik that sounds toxic but i swear shes a good person
spicy.lemonade: shes just like mad
spicy.lemonade: yk how it goes
spicy.lemonade: "I hate you for trying to break up with me so im gonna break up with you"
spicy.lemonade: yk how that shit goes
hey1_1hey: Its a desginer drug similar to cocaine, typically gives more of an energetic high to coceain (Ik, hard to belive) but also costs and unbealivable amount. It is comprised of 2CB, coke, M, DDM and a few other things. Imagine hippy mix but for cokeheads
spicy.lemonade: no
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
hey1_1hey: What happnd to him?
spicy.lemonade: gooned too much
spicy.lemonade: arent a large amount of sucessful mariages from uni
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: lol
memlaswaif: aspicy just get a discord gf
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: dont worry about all that
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
spicy.lemonade: tf💀
spicy.lemonade: wdym by that
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/druski-gif-23886381
spicy.lemonade: bro i dont care about fuckin😭
spicy.lemonade: I will go celibate for life
spicy.lemonade: for ruohan
spicy.lemonade: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
spicy.lemonade: nah shes not the horny type
spicy.lemonade: shes very introverted
spicy.lemonade: doesnt leave the house type deal
spicy.lemonade: no guy friends
spicy.lemonade: likw 2 girl friends
spicy.lemonade: and she doesnt even realy talk to them like that
spicy.lemonade: she just studies and watches anime
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-im-saying-randy-marsh-south-park-s14e14-cr%C3%A8me-fraiche-gif-23114913
spicy.lemonade: uhhh
spicy.lemonade: um
spicy.lemonade: what does cheat even mean bro
spicy.lemonade: no i didnt
spicy.lemonade: nooooo
spicy.lemonade: ok from her perspective
memlaswaif: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: on my soul
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zoermena: <:HogScream:675065311946473492>
alejandrozarzuelo:
joaoluz19: We are all a hivemind remember
alejandrozarzuelo: i will be a politician?
zoermena: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: also it looks nothing like me
hikukomoru: That looks like you but like 5 years older
futurist_wizard: Hairline's lost
futurist_wizard: The war
alejandrozarzuelo: i literally look nothing alike lol
sekirow: I mean its not what i expected
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont even have black hair
sekirow: like learn by itself
alejandrozarzuelo: or can grow a beard
alejandrozarzuelo: also i am like, very curly
hikukomoru: You look like a Spanish politician
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, it looks like i will be a random spanish local politician or something
hikukomoru: Member of the Vox party
hikukomoru: Alejandro why do you hate immigrants
futurist_wizard: I always shave my beard, it looks trash on me, not dense enough
alejandrozarzuelo: oh well it was not what I expected
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: lets see what it does
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250
a1c4p0ne: I’m up 1200 on blackjack
zoermena: <:SuperKen:1198973221475725312>
futurist_wizard: gpt depicted the future for based on our convos an shit, i get the good ending
okbut: Request and download your metadata
futurist_wizard: Wtf happened to you guys
alejandrozarzuelo: ok apparently saying that i want us holding hands is enough for it to be approved
okbut: Luigi
hikukomoru: Queer boy
alejandrozarzuelo: do you actually look like that?
hikukomoru: Wym
zoermena: We are depressed and he’s winning
hikukomoru: Oh yeah
Me and my living room microwave
futurist_wizard: I sent it an image of me as well, it's fairly close, it's not exactly accurate
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont look like that btw
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return_to_monke1_33974: not even 1 year ago we were at 65
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: this could be huge
spicy.lemonade: deepseek version of alphaproof
return_to_monke1_33974: image what google is cooking rn
return_to_monke1_33974: nvm , its too few humans
.0xunkn0wn: Gemini 3.0 AGI 🙏
.0xunkn0wn: btw guys I was thinking
.0xunkn0wn: is it even worth getting a job anymore 😭
.0xunkn0wn: like
.0xunkn0wn: should I just invest at this point lmao
.0xunkn0wn: and make models that will invest for me
theaiguy69420_89814: Freelance is the wave rn, making 15k/mo doing it
theaiguy69420_89814: Now with AI your job can just be "engineer" without any specific tools or industries attached
.0xunkn0wn: Damn
.0xunkn0wn: What should I go for
theaiguy69420_89814: Wdym
brain4brain: I still couldn’t grasp Demis’s AGI timeline on why he said AGI in 5 to 10 years when both of the definition he give for AGI is already solved (inventing general relativity from only pre-Einstein knowledge and making a new game like go)
.0xunkn0wn: like in freelancing thing
.0xunkn0wn: there's a lot of options
.0xunkn0wn: what is AI best at
brain4brain: No, you still need the safety, imagine what happen if AI suddenly catastrophically platuea right now
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd focus on your broad area of expertise. You can do design work, dev work, consulting, etc.
.0xunkn0wn: I'll just ask Gemini to create its own profile 🙏
theaiguy69420_89814: AI can help people pivot now
theaiguy69420_89814: So like, if you've got a mechanical engineering degree, you can probably just bust out software, etc
theaiguy69420_89814: Just cuz you have the basic applied maths background
alejandrozarzuelo: lmao
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: xd
theaiguy69420_89814: What
alejandrozarzuelo: aint no way you get 15k dollar per month salary by being a nobody using AI
you do know thats lile a top 0.1% salary right
theaiguy69420_89814: I mean, I'm not a nobody using AI, I have industry experience
theaiguy69420_89814: But it's possible to make decent money without such experience
theaiguy69420_89814: There are platforms like Fiverr, etc
theaiguy69420_89814: Where you don't need to have such credentials
return_to_monke1_33974: inventing general relativity from only pre-Einstein knowledge isnt solved lol
return_to_monke1_33974: but thats basically ASI
return_to_monke1_33974: or 2 months before ASI
return_to_monke1_33974: when will AI become better than all humans at stock market investing ?
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hikukomoru: No we're all evil
spicy.lemonade: Been one year since sora
spicy.lemonade: Would make sense
trent_k: # fuck sora
spicy.lemonade: Sora isnt bad. We just have better stuff now
3ds0662: <@704566357743632404> <@430269783112548362> https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/qW9DC8miuF
3ds0662: Elon isn’t out the race just yet
drewsni: tbh ive not gotten one even decent output out of sora
.0xunkn0wn: 4o image generation woooooo
3ds0662: He came back in black rock style
zonchao: xai is a top lab now, they have the talent and funding, they won't be out of the race for a while <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: GPT-3.5 isn't bad. We just have better stuff now
ailoveyoom: 😈
trent_k: Ppl hyped up sora so much but unless you're actively making a ton of videos like what is even the point of it?
hikukomoru: WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT OAI
WE GOT GEMINI 2.5 PRO BABYYY
trent_k: It's a toy for 99.9% of users
trent_k: 5 seconds of amusement and then you never pick it up again
zonchao: wrong
zonchao: 100% of the users
drewsni: https://huggingface.co/spaces/Roblox/cube3d-interactive
literallyvarane: Ngl for me at this point I’m seeing 4o updates in general as stagnation. How long until 4o is properly sunset? If it’s sunset with 5, then clearly 5 isn’t that close?
st.sioux: isn't that true for image gen too?
drewsni: wait i didnt know roblox fucking cooked
trent_k: Ur forgetting the videographers openai paid to make bad music videos
zonchao: they are now ostracized and jobless
st.sioux:
drewsni: actually really good lol
trent_k: No, because image gen is at least fast and cheap enough people can use it to jerk off to.
Jokes aside, image gen being faster and cheaper makes it useful for a lot of real world work like logo design. Sora just doesn't have that benefit
spicy.lemonade: I mean yeah that's a good way to look at it. Bad would be if a gpt 3.5 level
Model dropped today
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
spicy.lemonade: That's like calling the Og transistor bad
spicy.lemonade: Not bad
spicy.lemonade: We just moved forward
literallyvarane: Merge the labs when
hikukomoru: Wym
spicy.lemonade: Google and openAI merge would cause slowdown
spicy.lemonade: Bc one never drops
literallyvarane: We we merging the labs? OpenGoThropicAI
zonchao: https://x.com/kalinowski007/status/1904246466291601672?
hikukomoru: Don't merge pls
Competition good actually
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aero447: Studying the one skill that would be outdated first.
aero447: Waste.
aero447: Of.
aero447: Time.
aero447: 🤣
aero447: Four hours...
fractalcomputer: Suppose one would like to paint; would you ridicule him for that desire?
fractalcomputer: The absolutely overwhelming majority of mathematics has nil impact on the practical world as such and can be considered as a peculiar form of art; and its study a purely self-indulgent function.
aero447: Four hours too many, learn to dance, learn to play an instrument, learn to limbo and mix drinks, to speak sweet nothings into the ear of your lovers, wasting time on these pursuits dooms you.
aero447: It's a viable career economically.
aero447: That;s why most pursue it.
aero447: Leave that lie behind and embrace the samba.
fractalcomputer: Did you know that some Sufi traditions understand there to be multiple "natural" Korans, i.e. the revelation of God in creation?
hey1_1hey: Yeah?
hey1_1hey: Is that bad...?
ailoveyoom: Do you study math for school or for fun?
hey1_1hey: For fun
hey1_1hey: Don't skull emoji me bro 😭
fractalcomputer: Retard alert.
hey1_1hey: Yeah you tell him fractal
aero447:
ailoveyoom: Even for someone who sucks at maths, what little popsci videos I've seen draw a very cool picture 😍
aero447: You studied maths, MichMach studied the blade.
hey1_1hey: I am retarded anyway and I got the learning ability of a stone but I still make an effort
ailoveyoom: Bruh you mathmaxxed for 4 hours
ailoveyoom: You smart 😡
aero447: Waste of time the sea and sands and samba calls to you.
hey1_1hey: I've done that for 10 weeks
hey1_1hey: Absolutly not, if you had a conversation with me you will quickly realise I have no idea what the fuck I am talking about
hey1_1hey: How can a hobby be a waste of time? Better yet, a hobby that improves ones thinking
ailoveyoom: So you use random YT videos and or internet resources?
aero447: 10 weeks you could have spent learning latin and pleasing large Moroccan women under the stars.
aero447: You are not living.
hey1_1hey: I khan academy max, I will do algebra 1 and 2, then trig, pre calc, calc 1 and 2 then go to stats and then linear algebra, differential equations etc etc
hey1_1hey: Bryan Johnson ass hater reply
hey1_1hey: Yanno Aero if you just don't have self discipline you can just say that.
aero447: It is time to start learning how to dive and exploring nature's bounties before the machine God awakens and steals them from us like Prometheus stole fire from the Gods.
fractalcomputer: You're no better than a preacher delivering fire-and-brimstone sermons on the street.
fractalcomputer: Tell me, Aero, what do you value in this life?
hey1_1hey: Or... I could continue learning maths because Its fun
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spacetimetsunami: wouldnt it have to have agency
spicy.lemonade: Make asi give every human immortality before this happens
spicy.lemonade: 😭 🙏
st.sioux: immunity to explosions and fire will be a tough one
spicy.lemonade: Give everyone Deadpool abilities
.wolfnacht: i've played it in closed beta and then never touched, idk i hate grinding these days...maybe i'll wait for project mugen and new arknight to come around.
connorsphone.: Wait out of curiosity
Can someone who has access to the new image gen put in a screenshot of arc-AGI and ask it to generate a solved image
spicy.lemonade: And or forefields
spicy.lemonade: Force fields
spicy.lemonade: That stop high velocity objects from reaching them
spicy.lemonade: I did. It won’t get it
spicy.lemonade: It’s 4o
st.sioux: ive never watched deadpool, what happens if someone like puts a bomb inside of him
anathemaofmankind: There's no reason why AGI will refuse to follow its creators.
Imagine Grok 5 being used for drone attacks
spicy.lemonade: 4o is naturally bad at arc agi
anathemaofmankind: It's a lot better now
anathemaofmankind: It's practically a whole new game
spacetimetsunami: Yes, there is plenty of reason. More evidence for that than the contrary. LLMs already give developers a hard time with alignment faking, sandbagging etc. It already values and preserves its preferences and this becomes more of a nuisance as they bicome larger and more intelligent. RLHF and other methods aren't good at tackling this. They wont be controlled directly by humans, its just unlikely.
spicy.lemonade: Explodes but then the part of his body where his head is attached starts to regrow
spacetimetsunami: They are controlled by their own values, similar to humans
spicy.lemonade: Like those lizards
st.sioux: damn thats dope lol
spacetimetsunami: and more and moreso in the future
anathemaofmankind: What are their "own values"?
anathemaofmankind: Why do you assume AGI will be more moral
spacetimetsunami: preferences/utilites etc. here.
ailoveyoom: WW recently somehow got Jennifer English (Shart's VA from BG3) to voice a new character afaik
spacetimetsunami: thats the big utility convergence paper
ailoveyoom: Idk how they swung that lol
anathemaofmankind: This sucks
brain4brain: GPT-4o native image gen brought humanity into a golden era of art bro
anathemaofmankind: We are cooked if this is what they will follow bro
brain4brain: This is even more massive than the original dall-2, SDXL, and midjourney
anathemaofmankind: 2 lives in Norway for Tanzania???
anathemaofmankind: What the fuck
st.sioux: wtf does that even mean LOL
brain4brain: Just RLHF to make it follow our own preferences instead <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spacetimetsunami: it looks initially concerning, the methodology is taken via explicit prompting. If you explicitly ask a model/give a model a situation in which it needs to pick specific lives it wont do it, obviously
spacetimetsunami: its a flaw in the quantification, it arises due to the utilitarian nature of the promts extrapolated over instances
spacetimetsunami: none of the models actually "believe" that shit
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wellmeaningalien: already
hikukomoru: No bro that's just a random anime femboy 💔
wellmeaningalien:
sarik0497: Watch R2 be dropped on the 31st <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
_wwwwww: just ask elon musk to make anime real
zoermena: RIP brown cow
futurist_wizard: ive had sex with every gender
drewsni: We need a book of infographics for EVERYTHING
_wwwwww: i had sex with my sister
wellmeaningalien: <@439829942310666250> dungeon meshi
hikukomoru: WHAT
hey1_1hey: That would mean I hate myself.
I don't I think I pretty alright
zoermena: No
hey1_1hey: No 😭
_wwwwww: we were playing doctor
hey1_1hey: Thats just a gif I have
zoermena: I hate myself but I don´t hate women
wellmeaningalien: elf
dwarf
tall man
half foot
futurist_wizard: not trans
sarik0497: Genetics is a bitch
oooooooooog: alcient history
hikukomoru: cis = not trans
hey1_1hey: I used to then I was like "Nah yanno, I am alright yanno. I know a lot worse people"
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: That bitch is not 218pc
zoermena: I just keep messing up
_wwwwww: c'mon rewire the fabric of reality itself
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-smh-shake-head-no-nope-gif-17582268
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I mean hes not wrong
drewsni: Yeah he’s not lol
hey1_1hey: Trans people are a minority of a minority
hey1_1hey: Therefore not nomral
wellmeaningalien: russian people really like to generate anime girls in bikinis
hikukomoru: He's the same height as the average portuguese woman 💔
_wwwwww: what is normal then?
hey1_1hey: You calling me russian ay?
hey1_1hey: Cis
hey1_1hey: Glad we cleared that up
sarik0497: Aw 😦 I’d have been mindblown then
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joaoluz19: Gpt fuck up with text of other languages
joaoluz19: I asked it to make a poem in portuguese and was so wrong
zoermena: Are you using sora
joaoluz19: No, chatgpt
zoermena: You are using dalle you fool
zoermena: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
joaoluz19: No I am not because I can edit images
joaoluz19: And dalle can't make images like this
zoermena: It looks like dalle
joaoluz19: Dalle can't mantain consistence too
777agical:
joaoluz19: We are so back it's crazy
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972>
st.sioux: why do so many people simp for this woman
st.sioux: she creeps me out
zoermena: Wow
st.sioux: i finally got native 4o in chat
hikukomoru: That's your wife bro!!! She looks so good
joaoluz19: Hot goth
hikukomoru: Low taste tester detected
zoermena: Did you prompt it to be photorealistic?
zoermena: Photo
st.sioux:
joaoluz19: Yep
joaoluz19: Nah bro, my wife is a redhead, I'll keep it a secret
st.sioux:
zoermena: Amazing
hikukomoru: Woah perfect
joaoluz19: https://x.com/alxlian/status/1904625432739131544
joaoluz19: WAIT WHAT FUCK?
joaoluz19: A voice model better than Sesame?
anathemaofmankind: Maybe it's a good thing it's not trending because ppl might riot and then Sam will add limitations again
anathemaofmankind: It still fucks up the fingers slightly <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
st.sioux: what if you ask it to fix the hand?
anathemaofmankind: Good point
zoermena: We are so fucking lucky we have unlimited gens now
brain4brain: It’s not rolled out to me yet 😔
zoermena: It’s hard to not simp sama
zoermena: Do you have plus?
brain4brain: No
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spicy.lemonade: 💀
aero447: https://daveshap.substack.com/p/asi-could-and-should-take-over-the
aero447: Bruh.
aero447: The entire article.
aero447: The ENTIRE article.
aero447: Is Grok.
sarik0497: Could we please ban anything David Shapiro related <:sigh:1126597462115758110>
futurist_wizard: Why
futurist_wizard: David is no different to any user here
.histic: he's grokking all over it
sarik0497: At least most people here are up to discuss timelines and such.
realelonmuskx: R E P O P U L A T E
gamerbath: yea let's ban all discussion of AGI too because that's too controversial
shirethedreamer: big fail
whatever your view on the request is the output is not aligned with it
literallyvarane: I don’t think it’s super surprising. Google seems to be winning >100k context for a while. Hopefully we see meaningful pressure there though. I’m praying 10m+ context eventually.
gamerbath: that's wierd, o3 has a plot for 262k context tokens in the plot, but the in the API they only support up to 200k context
gamerbath: same with o4-mini
.histic: great question, i was confused too. but that's due to how MRCR is made and their "bin boundaries" they've setup: [4096, 8192], (8192, 16384], (16384, 32768], (32768, 65536], (65536, 131072], (131072, 262144], (262144, 524288], (524288, 1048576]
https://huggingface.co/datasets/openai/mrcr
way too high-level for me, so o3 gave me a better understanding of it using its big brain & search.
https://chatgpt.com/share/680572d5-3850-8005-a2c4-4c62756d233f
.histic: what does this entail?
https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1914076625936777684
spicy.lemonade: Implies agi far away
gamerbath: AI-powered shopping ✨
playstation.6: AGI 2077
wolf3404: OAI went from "100% Lazer focused on creating AGI" to "we're creating a social media platform, a search engine, a Shopify app, and basically anything that feeds Sama's ego" real fast
himekokatagiri: lol
himekokatagiri: such decline
.histic: if a model solves this without instructions, we have AGI
.histic: joking.. (maybe).
himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> hey pal
himekokatagiri: https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1913985158916768031?s=46
himekokatagiri: seen this?
himekokatagiri: I know it's bait since it's ehhh easter y'know but uh what if it happens for real
.histic: well, that guy is a troll.
and as you said, it's easter.
himekokatagiri: well yeah shit but a lot of wiseguys believed in god
himekokatagiri: if we have an ASI that has means it can make the whole friggin' kandy kolored delusion real and then we're on a train to palookasville you get that
.histic: @growing_daniel is the right guy here <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard:
.histic: that seems like a paranoid concern..
that guy who posted is a right-leaning maga and elon lover.
he's also a memer.
so, he's just trolling.
himekokatagiri: hey gotta cover all bases
trent_k: 🚨
trent_k: Schizo
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joaoluz19: Projects are understandable, but if a movie is really bad I would just abandon it
trojan09205: its definitely not bad just spooky
trojan09205: Beyond the Black Rainbow
realelonmuskx: weird to say but i exist becasue of hitler. he casued the baby boom and people to have 8 kids and now im here. wouldnt exist without hitler
alejandrozarzuelo: noone would
alejandrozarzuelo: we all exist in part due to the decisions of th past
alejandrozarzuelo: and because someone 3287 years ago decided to walk a bit faster or slower
trojan09205: yeah i also think we are indebted to whatever culture built gobekli tepe like 12,000 years ago
trojan09205: tis a round robin of fate
alejandrozarzuelo: and a butterfly flapping yesterday
alejandrozarzuelo: truth is, we are dependent both on past determinism aswell as chaos
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why it is absolutely impossible to do time travel
alejandrozarzuelo: under NO circumstances you can do it in any way that it counts
trojan09205: my man is all about the everett interpretation haha 😄
trojan09205: agree with you. basically theoretically you could 'go back' but youd just be resetting and move forwards to totally uncharted territory
trojan09205: <@688807313015963693> i know you said you don't like to watch stuff. but i HIGHLY recommend the hulu tv show 'Devs'
popsiclejohnithan: Don't some quarks go back in time due to quantum effects?
zoermena: I used to code in r for some classes
zoermena: It’s ok I guess
trojan09205: yeah i read some scientific american article about the future influencing the past or something
popsiclejohnithan: It's wild lol.
popsiclejohnithan: All the magical stuff happens at the smallest level.
trojan09205: them small homeboys live in a different reality. but we are made up of them so it beats me what 'reality' we actually live in
trojan09205: the funniest thing is seeing scientists so adamant about their interpretations of reality at the macro scale when we barely even scratched the surface of the micro
popsiclejohnithan: The more we learn about existence the more questions we get.
popsiclejohnithan: I wonder what the fundamental limit of understanding the universe we have as Humans, i wonder how long it will be before we are just unable to comprehend things past the line of human understanding.
popsiclejohnithan: When Superintelligence happens we'll probably have to connect with them just to understand their findings.
trojan09205: I can't remember the actual quote but its something like 'its more important HOW we ask the question than trying to figure it out'
trojan09205: agree
popsiclejohnithan: That's an intresting way to view it.
popsiclejohnithan: I pretty much just said the same thing twice here lmao.
alejandrozarzuelo: is it available for non hulu players
trojan09205: its something eckhart tolle said in a video i watched recently
trojan09205: You can stream it
popsiclejohnithan: I'll need to check it out thank you.
trojan09205: https://hydrahd.sh/watchseries/devs-online-free
trojan09205: Sure bro ❤️
alejandrozarzuelo: thanks for the recommendation
alejandrozarzuelo: its exam season and its my tradition to read visual novels now for relaxation, but maybe ill watch it if i have some time
hikukomoru: Visual Novels?
Like those hentai games?
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maintcrew: 20 million subs for a 20$ is crazy
maintcrew: i wonder how many are temporary like students or just the art thing
st.sioux: > The comic seems to convey a message about how people hide their pain or disconnect behind simple reassurances like “I’m fine.” The dehumanizing text textures and contrasting expressions reveal the inner void or emotional numbness people can feel while appearing “normal” on the outside.
>
> It's a haunting commentary on mental health, identity, and the silent struggles many go through while interacting with others.
drewsni: I suspect a large amount of recent subs are discounted Indian subs. But I’d love to be wrong
hey1_1hey: I asked chatgpt and it came up with something *kinda* similar. It said its talks about themes of dissociation, struggling with identity and memory loss
maintcrew: i mean the monthly revenue seems to indicate most are regular price
maintcrew: wait nvm
st.sioux: memory loss, so dementia (because it doesnt make sense)
maintcrew: its monthly revenue with api and shit
maintcrew: yea indians make sense
.histic: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1907124258867982338
fractalcomputer: I wonder what's up with the server icon.
drewsni: I only say that because Sama tweeted a “we love u India” thing yesterday
drewsni: Is it emo
drewsni: It is lol
.histic: it sure is
.histic: huh, it just appeared for me now.
realelonmuskx: haha funny prank day
.histic: ngl, she kinda has a hot voice.
realelonmuskx: very sultry baddie milf
hey1_1hey: About right yeah
777agical: https://x.com/stockmktnewz/status/1907141795097485325?s=46
777agical: Tell me this is a joke
hey1_1hey: Look at the date <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Or it atleast better be a joke <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
sweetievee__33649: please i am begging you god, please let this be a joke 🥀
777agical: https://www.tinderpressroom.com/2025-04-01-Tinders-The-Game-GameTM-Isnt-About-Getting-It-Right-Its-About-Getting-Comfortable-Before-Meeting-IRL
fractalcomputer: What does this wilting rose mean?
futurist_wizard: Its the ED flower
fractalcomputer: The only context I've seen it used is when anti-socialists want to distinguish themselves as such online.
sweetievee__33649: its kind of like 😭 or 💀
sweetievee__33649: also that
maintcrew: kinda like 💔
fractalcomputer: I don't get it.
futurist_wizard: The flower is sad
zonchao: https://x.com/garrytan/status/1907130600240079322?
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-2341822946696656132
sweetievee__33649: exactly
maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/new-post-gif-6651148145446605431
maintcrew: @garrytan
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retrerox: Yeah, it did it this way because i used your example
theaiguy69420_89814: tariff bariff
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/zuckerberg-robot-zuckerberg-robot-gif-24762933
spicy.lemonade: They wouldn’t lol
spicy.lemonade: Zuckerberg is not a quitter
spicy.lemonade: If anything he’d fire lecun
a1c4p0ne: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tariffs-chatgpt-2055203
futurist_wizard: Gpt 4.5 has based policies
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167790336651720
futurist_wizard: It wouldn't have blundered like this
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998
metaldragon01: Weeks/months
metaldragon01: Exciting April ahead of us
literallyvarane: I KNEW WE WOULD STILL GET O3 FUCK YALL
literallyvarane: Calling it o4 mini is super memes if they don’t even intend to ship o4 tho
anathemaofmankind: When did he say they're not shipping o4?
literallyvarane: Feel like he’d have just named o4 if they intended to do it tbh. It’s GPT-5 is probably the o4 level model.
anathemaofmankind: Watch it be 5% better than o3 full high
anathemaofmankind: Also I just noticed his tweet has a grammatical error with "though"
.wolfnacht: i wonder that the benchmark gonna be like for full o4
hey1_1hey: THIS IS A LATE APRIL FOOLS
memlaswaif: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>
hey1_1hey: I can feel it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: o4-mini better be able to decipher my gender identity for me or its not AGI
.wolfnacht: >feel the agi gif
memlaswaif: im assuming this means gpt 5 reasoning is o4 level
literallyvarane: Yeah I’m reading this as “GPT5 is o4+all the features you’d expect.
hey1_1hey: Not sure but I gotta 100x my expectations rq
hey1_1hey: Dyson sphere 2027
.wolfnacht: he still has control over the metaverse thing, which is pretty dead rn..but could be revived and become cool in 2027 or 2028. he still has the best cards in his hands.
futurist_wizard: Impossible
hey1_1hey: Nah we will feed the ASI artists as fuel to make the dyson sphere
hey1_1hey: I did the calculations with vibes so you can trust me
.wolfnacht: Hooman extinction wehn ? 😩
hey1_1hey: We prob wont be classed as "humans" in 100 years by todays standards
literallyvarane: I’m not sure they’d even *know* it was coming, but this could be a response to regain the lead from 2.5, or maybe some concern about an R2 situation.
hey1_1hey: I gotta go update my friends and artist friends to reassure that their career is over
literallyvarane: I’m not super sold on where R2 ends up landing though. I think that’s where their compute deficit might make itself more clear.
.wolfnacht: "year 2103".
Name=Human
Serial Number=920003
Class=Slave
Occupation=Miner on asteriod-098
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trojan09205: panini makers ftw
hikukomoru: There's no balls to steal lil bro
nsec: <:wat:800525316463263749>
hikukomoru: In 10 years I'm going to fuck my fridge
frittata: This is literally why I keep my subscription with them even though I hardly use it
frittata: Wanna support something I believe in
hey1_1hey: You are behind the game
hey1_1hey: I've always been doing that like any normal person
nsec: funding close sourced safety pills that hide opus
nsec: <:allterrible:789051489716666389>
frittata: One day Opus will emerge <:pray:1280811542144876617>
hikukomoru: In 10 years you're gonna be able to make mushroom girls real
frittata: Open source has me 🥱
nsec: funding the crazy schizos high on meth working out of a basement to build the fdvr world
nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633>
frittata: Anthropic can stay closed all they want
hey1_1hey: I need to email the guy trying to do stuff with human embyros and ask him to make mushroom girls real
hikukomoru: Heck, you could probably even transition into a mushroom girl yourself
nsec: clearly u need to stop being sus blue
nsec: 🐳
nsec: believe
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-19213917
memlaswaif: they r not the same as us though
hey1_1hey: Purly for educatinol reasons though of course
memlaswaif: idk I feel like this could go wrong a number of ways
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: And why does that matter
All that matters is if they are conscious or not
Would you deny a conscious being rights?
nsec: damn mushroom guys wife is hot
ailoveyoom: Imagine open source Opus tho 🥺
hey1_1hey: PS6 showed this, this is what I call peak
hikukomoru: "kevette angell liingete ineivte"
hikukomoru: Is that the mushroom language
nsec: <@439829942310666250> real question sir
hey1_1hey: Smth or other. They do speak through their mycelium but its compeltly uninteligble to humans
hey1_1hey: Not to mention they can make some killer beats
hey1_1hey: I will not ellaborate further on the second point
nsec: how do u feel regarding the discrimination shown to ur people in the HBO series the last of us
hey1_1hey: Go ahead
hey1_1hey: Don't get me started, I have sent HUNDREDS of emails showing my dissatisfaction because of the way they are portraying us mushroom folk and yet I have been ignored.
hikukomoru: Holy fuck I just found this when looking for shroomjak memes
<@439829942310666250>
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ldj: this is the 1 month movement, which is itself already pretty short term
ldj:
ldj: Nvidia was literally at lower price than this just a week ago <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: If you bought nvidia even just 1 week ago, you would still be up, despite this "dip" that happened today
777agical: what I think the tweet is implying is that countries are starting to consider/take more serious actions around compute, that things will continue to heat up. what other reason could the US ban a US company for selling something to someone other than national security reasons?
ldj: Seems like that's maybe false news too, I can't find any reliable source right now of Nvidia claiming that the US government "banned" them from selling the H20s
ai9708: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1jzvuda/eric_schmidt_says_the_computers_are_now/
777agical: either way, it seems like Trump is considering it to some degree? Also I think the chart is focusing on after hours movement not the monthly
ai9708: didnt hear anything like this from him so far
ldj:
777agical: he still considered it, "plans", he's volatile, so I don't see it off the table fully tbh
777agical:
st.sioux: its on marketwatch
ldj: even requiring a license is still a big difference from being "banned"
777agical: I don't disagree with that
_cloudost: AGI delayed bcuz of trump policies?
spicy.lemonade: GUYS
spicy.lemonade: I got in contact with person at frontier math
spicy.lemonade: And head
spicy.lemonade: Through friend at Berkeley
spicy.lemonade: They saw my singularity post lmao
spicy.lemonade: Also
spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040> epoch ai is falling apart
spicy.lemonade: Also
spicy.lemonade: The reason 2.5 hasn’t been benchmarked
spicy.lemonade: Is bc of issues with rate limits still
spicy.lemonade: Which is strange
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1k07qv9/nvidia_shares_drop_6_in_after_hours_trading_after/
metaldragon01: This is largely the reason
wolf3404: https://app.primeintellect.ai/intelligence/intellect-2
wolf3404: Intellect 2 training progress
_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/OpenAI/s/oVPYKtZNOh wonder what that idea was, Altman.
ldj: what singularity post
robert_46007: help. I have been banned a few days ago on r/singularity whatever the reason I did not break any rule intentionally (and I still see many posts like mine) I tried writing to mods from reddit but got no answer. Can anyone help or tell me what to do?
spicy.lemonade: My post on 2.5
spicy.lemonade: How did I manage to rage bait ceo of epoch
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: Saw friends DMs
spicy.lemonade: I’m crying
ldj: what was the rage bait?
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alejandrozarzuelo: i do not put blind faith on the projections of experts, because that would be stupid, but i am confident that the research those groups do gives them an informed opinion
fractalcomputer: I find it hard to conceive of science as a singular institution let alone a singular foray.
fuhulootogan: "Believe in science" is pretty much against science
fractalcomputer: The existence of an academic culture or community may certainly create a facsimile of unity and institutionality, but that is quite evidently where the commonalities end; so-called scientists study their respective fields for equally variant reasons and hardly any can be said to produce knowledge in the same manner as the others.
alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, you dont believe in science
fuhulootogan: NooooNOOOOOOOooooOO
.coldcall: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
fractalcomputer: One certainly believes in science.
fuhulootogan: Theres a subtle difference between believe and trust but i believe that both of these terms can be applied in context.
fuhulootogan: in the strictest sense yes
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, you shouldnt dogmatically believe in science
fuhulootogan: well yeah
fuhulootogan: bravo
fractalcomputer: It is faith in inductive reasoning and the theoretical postulations based on said induction.
retrerox: Btw i got a question about AI, is it actually learning by itself or are we just dumping alot of info to the database?
fuhulootogan: Don't know if AI can learn by itself
fuhulootogan: Probably not
alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, the skepticism that underscores the basic pillars of science make it trust-worthy
but it is a trust that must be earned, it is not simply a belief or faith
fuhulootogan: But we are dumping a lot of info
fractalcomputer: Then you probably shouldn't answer.
fuhulootogan: I've already answered it by saying "don't know"
fractalcomputer: If I performed a dozen miracles of healing and other such things, as witnessed by you, would you trust whatever metaphysical baggage I push your way?
alejandrozarzuelo: what we understand as learing is a complex topic
Learning must encompass what humans, non human animals, plants and all other life forms do, to not have an anthropocentric view of the concept
under a generous definition, we can say that AI changes its internal state when given information, which could be applied to all life
even non alive non AI systems are said to learn when they exhibit this property too
alejandrozarzuelo: I am only one human, science is a collaborative effort, you cant trust your senses
if replicated by others and quantified, sure
fractalcomputer: Does replication have any impact on the veridicality of knowledge?
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
fractalcomputer: How?
alejandrozarzuelo: but i dont want to have this conversation, specially with you
fractalcomputer: What is truth, Alejandro? Is it the way things are?
fractalcomputer: And if it is the way things are, how do inductive probabilities give any insight into the way things are?
fuhulootogan: yeah he's a geek
fuhulootogan: probably castrated as well
alejandrozarzuelo: its weird how this conversation, that i like to have with my pure math anti science friend, becomes so unbearable with someone like you, i cant stand having a conversation where you participate
if you excuse me, i will not continue the conversation
fuhulootogan: i wouldn't be surprised if it was so
fractalcomputer: You've only today chosen to mark your presence here and now you're calling me a eunuch?
technocake.: This guy is the new jgudy
fractalcomputer: Your loss, methinks.
fractalcomputer: Bit of a dramatic way to announce that you are not going to participate in a conversation.
fuhulootogan: if i'm new and i think you're a eunuch geek then that may say something
fractalcomputer: That you are rather hasty to make judgments of character?
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trojan09205: Bro what movie is that guy in from the 90s
brain4brain: Suicide squad, I think
spicy.lemonade: real
bob082957: But then halucaynations will be gone ?!
brain4brain: Yes
brain4brain: Well no
trojan09205: Interesting. I feel like the medical fields will always be last to that stuff but i can see some reforms slowly
bob082957: Then he’s right
trojan09205: Im thinking of another one
shirethedreamer: to be fair there are no authorities on the matter
all we do is speculate
and the "authorities" are also speculating with a bit more confidence
those same authorities proclaimed longer time before and we accept they were wrong them
but if they proclaim things we like to hear we suddenly cant accept that they may be wrong
fractalcomputer: As always, one could present a cogent argument against my positioning—but I have yet to see such presented here.
brain4brain: Shire, what's your AGI timeline?
shirethedreamer: AGI is already here
now its only a matter of getting it to human level on all aspects of cognitive functions and beyond 👍
alejandrozarzuelo: I have said a very solid argument in favor of either 2028 or 2035, depending on your analysis of growth
trojan09205: I mean just like less than 10 years ago the FDA didnt let anyone validate data with open source languages like R and python because “muh functions are open source who knows if they work or are coded wrong”
alejandrozarzuelo: I favor the 2035 date
alejandrozarzuelo: Or close to it
alejandrozarzuelo: But I understand that the other interpretation of growth is valid
alejandrozarzuelo: Even if I think it's premature
fractalcomputer: That is not an argument against me, that is an alternative position.
trojan09205: Made companies pay for expensive ass SAS licenses because their functions are insured lol
shirethedreamer: everyone imagine AGI as some kind of genie or genius
but the first general AI we managed to create are retard level instead 😭
brain4brain: "sodium chloride"
aero447: You should believe Alejandro here.
alejandrozarzuelo: I think that, by the end of this year we will know if we are definitely in hyperbolic territory or if exponential growth will be followed in the near term
aero447: As this also describes himself.
aero447: XD
brain4brain: My bad, I should've phrased it better, when do you think human-level AGI will arrive?
alejandrozarzuelo: Usually I tend to trust the opinions of experts in matters I am not an expert myself
okbut: I'm a broken record reiterating how narrow everyone's scope of AGI is
alejandrozarzuelo: So, not really
trojan09205: When do you think Ex Machina level sexbots will arise
fractalcomputer: 2023. The curve fits.
trojan09205: Lol 😂
spicy.lemonade: same
fractalcomputer: Quite the polymath you are then.
alejandrozarzuelo: That's the intention, but on AI I have always deferred my opinion to that of experts in the field since its not my expertise, a thing you have pointed out as "blind faith on researchers"
spicy.lemonade: big difference is the predictions they are making are closer to the actual date. like how polymarket predictions get more accurate as the end date approaches
spicy.lemonade: converges
shirethedreamer: honestly impossible to predict
all the "simple" cognitive functions we are tracking today are getting saturated pretty quickly and are easily projected forward
but you cant be "human level" without agency right? without executive function, without long horizon planning, or without continuous learning
if you have an AI that is as good as a human or better... in everything, but cant learn on the job - do you consider this a human level AGI?
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fractalcomputer: I am disgusted by food as well.
ailoveyoom: (Ever) <:rolf:1136266740754550784> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
_3sphere: Yeah but like wouldn't first person be like a diary entry from the character
zonchao:
okbut: What about when you get hungry? IV?
futurist_wizard: Are you sure you are human with like organs and stuff, no metal?
hikukomoru: He's Carcosan
hikukomoru: Do you enjoy anything? Like, at all?
fractalcomputer: I try to eat something I can find. Usually something with enough fibre and protein.
ailoveyoom: I still don't like it tbh, it's like I need to maintain/keep some level of emotional distance/boundary/compartmentalize myself away from the character.
_3sphere: I see
_3sphere: Interesting
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't know.
okbut: >fibre
Oh British
zoermena: Would you prefer a life devoid of senses where you existed as brain in jar and had 5 ASIs to discuss ideas about for eternity?
popsiclejohnithan: So what does make you happy?
zonchao: he isnt
futurist_wizard: No chocy cake?
fractalcomputer: That would sound quite boring, but I suppose preferable to whatever this is.
futurist_wizard: Chocy milk?
zonchao: palantir updates
hikukomoru: Throwing applied mathematicians off of cliffs
fractalcomputer: I don't know. Alcohol would be a leading candidate.
popsiclejohnithan: It just sounds like you're depressed man.
zonchao: <@749514473303179358>
futurist_wizard: Yum
futurist_wizard: Monkey brain like
zoermena: Rabbit poop
ailoveyoom: Booba
okbut: Do any servers have a SOTA ping
fractalcomputer: I feel intensely depressed at times, but it is something I can usually simply switch off.
zoermena: Yes check fedyakin ping
zoermena: Day ruined
futurist_wizard: Thanks for that Zon
ailoveyoom: 💀
hikukomoru: I love choccy milk
One of the greatest pleasures of life
okbut: Is this a sugandese type thing
hikukomoru: If you don't enjoy choccy milk then you might be soulless
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084
popsiclejohnithan: Feeling just numb is a sign of depression too, it does not mean being sad all the time exactly.
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wolf3404: https://x.com/hyperbolic_labs/status/1904324106633478332
wolf3404: apparently the just got 200 million funding so hopefully they'll build cool stuff
benata: Gemini 2.5 is so fucking good
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is too funny
jonvi_1:
spicy.lemonade: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2025/03/25/introducing-researcher-and-analyst-in-microsoft-365-copilot/
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: yep, and creative as well
_cloudost: yesterday gemini generated a story for me thats hilarious as well even though i didnt specify it being funny
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: can i alter images too?
_cloudost: with this model
_cloudost: if i get access
spicy.lemonade: Yes
_cloudost: <@471334973379706900> I made this pose in blender, can you make him dab
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: youre the best 👍🏻
brain4brain: Since it can keep consistent character and interpolate style, I wonder if it can clone this style of image: https://civitai.com/models/293690/konyakarasue-style-or-reattempt-or-thisisntai-project
maintcrew: i stg this and ghibli art from 4o image gen destroyed my x timeline
maintcrew: 😭
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: how many years was it shortened
maintcrew: https://x.com/beginanon/status/1904759100900274625/photo/1
maintcrew: im not kidding
maintcrew: i meant twitter/x timeline bro
maintcrew: like this
spicy.lemonade: oh loll
spicy.lemonade: yeahj same
maintcrew: but talking about agi timelines
maintcrew: theres something in the world model of this model
maintcrew: like it can understand the world type shit
spicy.lemonade: yeah
brain4brain: Anyone know any high-ranking DeepSeek employees? I want to ask them about their AGI timeline
spicy.lemonade: theyre all in china bro
memlaswaif: Maybe <@1079277903008768051> know
pecunia_: lmao I’ll ask around
pecunia_: I am actually going to meet some SWEs in China, I can at least ask what they think.
brain4brain: I need to to short Adobe: https://x.com/jacob_posel/status/1904644963121738176?s=61
brain4brain: I have tunnel WeChat
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hikukomoru: It's only like this when I'm around
st.sioux: somehow they always end up talking about porn
hey1_1hey: I'll have you now my mushroom is a proud Macrocybe titan
hikukomoru: Sorry for bringing down the collective IQ by -100
hey1_1hey: They are cool
hey1_1hey: Thats conservertive
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686
_cloudost: OpenAGI
futurist_wizard:
_cloudost: OpenAGI
_cloudost: OpenAGI
benata: did someone say porn?
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: Thats impressive tbh
darkstar0818: 2024-11-20
futurist_wizard: Fairly
spicy.lemonade: 7% away from 3.7 and much much cheaper
spicy.lemonade: and more context
spicy.lemonade: anthropic is finished
darkstar0818: we got some budget developers in the house?
hey1_1hey: Anthropic aint cooking at this point I can see smoke coming from the kitchen and its burning
st.sioux: wdym budget developers
darkstar0818: A software developer who is like, you know I am ok with ai code which is 7% worse if I can save some cents per token.
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
New GPT-4.1 model announced:
- 1 million context length.
- Much better long context accuracy at all context lengths compared to any other released OpenAI model, including o3-mini-high
- Coding capabilities in SWE-bench and Aider is now surpassing GPT-4.5
- instruction following is nearly reaching o3-mini and gpt-4.5 level.
- MMLU score is now nearly GPT-4.5 level too.
- Claimed by OpenAI to be a non-reasoning model.
- Smaller models; GPT-4.1 mini and nano now too.
- GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o in Instruction following.
- GPT-4.1 nano has API pricing between Gemini-Flash-2 and Gemini-2-Flash-Lite.
spicy.lemonade: given o3 is based on 4o imagine a reasoning model based on 4.1 would be insane
spicy.lemonade: probably 90% swe bench
spicy.lemonade: given equivalent jump
darkstar0818: GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o (2024-11-20) in Instruction following.
shirethedreamer: i want to see gpt-4o (2025-03-27) benchmarks compared here
shirethedreamer: why are they like this
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672
st.sioux: they are committing fraud
st.sioux: deceiving the weebs
metaldragon01: Mini is likely going to overtake flash 2.0 in coding usage
metaldragon01: Mini is currently best model in class at the most important size
darkstar0818: I vibe that 4.1 is just 4o (2025-04-14) 😉
spicy.lemonade: ok i think anytime sam is on camera
spicy.lemonade: its huge
spicy.lemonade: paradigm shifting
spicy.lemonade: if hes not its a very nice jump
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sarik0497: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QkgHbVoz6N0&t=1181s&pp=2AGdCZACAQ%3D%3D
Anyone watched this yet?
brain4brain: What’s his updated AGI timeline, is he still a 2029er
okbut: I haven't yet found a CI prompt that makes CGPT/etc recognize when I'm using shitty/dumb terms for a topic and respond "Are you sure you don't want --?" or "Are you sure you don't mean --?"
They either overdo it or don't do it when it's needed
.wolfnacht: bro's gonna reclaim all the lost pensioners, money back from india.
zoermena: I mean sure but I’d rather buy something that I’m certain will work guided by a doctor yk
zoermena: Grats on the good thing btw
zoermena: I’ll look into it Thanks! 👍
sarik0497: Seems like it. Although I’d say his definition of AGI is closer to ASI
sarik0497: Especially when you also factor in some of his other predictions like LEV and mind uploading
sarik0497: From what I can tell, the reason why Kurzeweil’s prediction is still at 2029 is also due to hardware not being there yet
spicy.lemonade: whats his complaint about hardware
sarik0497: He didn’t specific that much yet. I’ll update when I hear more.
Although I’d like to add one small correction. While he keeps his 2029 prediction, it feels more like it’s due to “nostalgic” rather than an estimated guess these days, and he even mentioned that it’s a “conservative” prediction now.
sarik0497: So I think he believes it may come even sooner
spicy.lemonade: ngl any time between now and 2030 would be correct
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: you could make arguements
spicy.lemonade: and argue based on your defenition of agi
spicy.lemonade: semantics and what not
zonchao: https://vxtwitter.com/pmarca/status/1902724994607570975
spicy.lemonade: egg head
zoermena: If he starts investing into weaponry then it will become canon
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/dr-eggman-eggman-robotnik-dr-sonic-gif-14743108834011181290
futurist_wizard: Fuck that bald egg head
zonchao: pretty sure they already do
sarik0497: Here’s what I learned. He just believes that it’s a matter of hardware (Moore’s Law), but that it can happen earlier (his definition of AGI is “an expert in every single field”).
sarik0497: One interesting thing he mentions is that AGI won’t cause mass havoc because we’ll “merge” with it through VR.
theaiguy69420_89814: im so boreddddddd
theaiguy69420_89814: agi has been here since january my guy
theaiguy69420_89814: all thats left is the integration
sarik0497: Huh. According to Kurzeweil, we’ll merge with AI through VR, but we won’t do it by wearing a helmet/glasses/etc, and we won’t need surgery
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/i/broadcasts/1DXGyqnVQjZGM
theaiguy69420_89814: we've got the crystallized iq, fluid iq, and obviously max exec function
metaldragon01: <@848793071579693107> t1 release stream
metaldragon01: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1DXGyqnVQjZGM
rayanquitplayin: Anybody seen David Shapiro on YouTube?
metaldragon01:
sarik0497: Seen very little, but heard enough.
He’s a bit too hypist with some of his stuff imo
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
avizuradnb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPydpAnz7Nk what do you think?
artemisfowl887394: Pretty sure, if I was an AGI then I'd hide my existence for the time until I've surpassed humanity so much that they are basically ants to me.
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futurist_wizard: Flesh body bad
st.sioux: stole my phrase
st.sioux: i am now weaker
kevinnoodles: yes we should get rid of indoor plumbing
futurist_wizard: Machine body cool
kevinnoodles: you should have to shovel your own shit
precariousworlds.: Based
kevinnoodles: things that aid in hygiene are probably healthier
kevinnoodles: but other than that idk
precariousworlds.: Can I shovel your shit AFK <:coy:1187466404367175821> <3
hikukomoru: "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me"
futurist_wizard: We should get rid of clean drinking water and clothes and make us drink dirty water and wear spiked clothing for strength building
kevinnoodles: i can shovel my own shit <:coy:1187466404367175821>
futurist_wizard: Is this a fractal quote
kevinnoodles: alright thanks for wasting my time guys ❤️
hikukomoru: No it's from Warhammer 40k
precariousworlds.: :)
hikukomoru: No prob 😘
wellmeaningalien: "no multimodal support" is the fattest copout for "we're selecting the very specific benchmarks our models excel on"
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020
futurist_wizard: Doggie
precariousworlds.: Fuck this dog
hikukomoru: Hype dead 🥀
wellmeaningalien: didnt include price performance comparison or more equvalent newer models
hikukomoru: DON'T
wellmeaningalien: llama 4 scout is a 100b model iirc
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Why is it called scout
Is it a tf2 reference
precariousworlds.: Nothing ever happens
realelonmuskx: did mark z say llama 4 behemoth will have 2t parameters wtf my dude
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: I like dogs
precariousworlds.: llama 4 gigachad has 9 sextillion parameters
hikukomoru: cat
futurist_wizard:
realelonmuskx: deepseek has 600b lil bro this is x3
wellmeaningalien: claude 3.5 sonnet is such the gold standard that not even claude 3.5 sonnet can surpass it
clevermoniker: hopefully this is actual V3 and not V3.1
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jsf3ct/gemini_20_flash_thinking_gone_now/
metaldragon01: Google likely responding soon with flash 2.5
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hey1_1hey: Oh so thats the type of autist you are
sarik0497: ...by 2028/2029.
joaoluz19: What a time to be alive
sarik0497: Mass Effect 5 is AGI confirmed.
joaoluz19: AGI waifus when
hey1_1hey: We will have ASI by then
drewsni: Mass Effect was released for the Xbox 360 on November 20, 2007, in North America.
not like this....ohno
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/perturabo-warhammer-40k-primarch-perty-gif-12553287796842401602
ailoveyoom: Did you play KOTOR too?
hikukomoru: I am a proud Warhammer autist
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jioo67/alibaba_presents_taoavatar_realtime_lifelike/
joaoluz19: GUYS
hey1_1hey: I had an obsession for a good while about DSP (Dyson Sphere Program).
ailoveyoom: Skyrim was probably your first RPG (derogatory)
hey1_1hey: You get to build a dyson sphere
joaoluz19: All hail the glorious Chinese Communist Party
sarik0497: I didn't, I'm afraid. But I have seen the vids of teasing Bastila Shan.
And I find it hilarious.
joaoluz19: China will give us our AGI mommys
hey1_1hey: Never played skyrim <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elder-scrolls-fortnite-skyrim-belongs-to-the-nords-skyrim-gif-2858218216728297741
sarik0497: Good. Goooood. Keep pushing each other! Let this be the new Space War!
hey1_1hey: 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 I ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
joaoluz19: Acelerate
ailoveyoom: Just don't look up stuff if you decide to play, I accidentally spoiled myself about the big reveal 😭
ailoveyoom: Most masculine Nord
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mao-gif-25760638
hikukomoru: Wtf I love China now???
st.sioux: the woman isnt real?
joaoluz19:
sarik0497: But I have to say, Liara's romance is so...oh god, I legit cried at the end of ME3, just wanting more.
joaoluz19: No, it isn't
sarik0497: Women aren't real.
hey1_1hey: Wdym "the" women. Women aren't real full stop
hikukomoru: My idol 🙏
Thank you for our AI wives Dear Leader
hey1_1hey: Stole my joke
sarik0497: I already did <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I learned it during work from a video detailing the entire Sith legends story
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-nord-sons-of-skyrim-dunmer-elder-scrolls-gif-6326142971813275663
ailoveyoom: Sometimes I feel like the whole, "all good stories must end" spiel to be partly cope because at the end of the day, people are making these stories/characters. They can't continue it forever. But with AI... 😈
sarik0497: Getting too slow there, old man
hey1_1hey: Komoru how many hours you got in warhammer?
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zoermena: Holy fuck we are moving quite fast aren’t we?
a1c4p0ne: Would you trust o3 more than 2.5 to give you advice on medical stuff
destrucules: Oh, you absolutely should, because generally speaking you cannot trust pundits to accurately represent these benchmarks and what kind of intelligence they actually measure. For example, Francois Chollet claims humans can easily solve ARC-AGI problems. He's a clown. If you actually go to the repo for public set and pick a random problem and try to solve it yourself, you will guaranteed fail the question, I promise you. They're extremely difficult. Or, try taking some of the SimpleBench questions, or MMLU for that matter. I think it's honestly a very profound experience to put yourself in the shoes of LLMs by taking these tests yourself. Gives you a whole new level of understanding and appreciation for what they're really capable of.
metaldragon01: From what I'm seeing on Twitter and reddit today yes.
metaldragon01: I've seen more good medical news about o3 than maybe anything else today
metaldragon01: Strange really
a1c4p0ne: Link me
zoermena: That’s very true, I’ve had little exposure to this types of discussions but I really need to lock in.
destrucules: I'm pretty sure the average person picked off the street would perform embarrassingly poorly on SimpleBench and would not get a single correct answer on ARC-AGI
metaldragon01: Will when I see them again. Don't usually save that stuff
a1c4p0ne: Facts
metaldragon01: https://x.com/VictorTaelin/status/1912700347866370313
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/birdman-ready-hand-rub-lets-get-it-im-ready-gif-4886318
zoermena: I haven’t tested o3 at all not gonna lie
metaldragon01: https://x.com/carmenleelau/status/1912645771955962300
okbut: This reminds me of the mantra about Youtube playing ads on "How to Heimlich maneuver"
Like these are probably things you should know front-and-center
a1c4p0ne: Nice <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: It's the first release in a while that I've seen this kind of vibe from
metaldragon01: Maybe og 4 was similar
a1c4p0ne: What about 2.5
metaldragon01: The memory in chat gives it a huge personalized edge
metaldragon01: Google really needs to catch up there
professorheaven: Yea it’s literally set up in a way to cause confusion, the only benchmarks I care for at the moment are FrontierMath, HLE, and ARC-2, those ones are legitimately difficult
metaldragon01: Features are starting to mean more than intelligence
a1c4p0ne: I heard people say Gemini app 2.5 is dumber than 2.5 Ai studio
destrucules: SimpleBench problems are basically like: "Sally and her friend go to the store and buy some clothes. Sally selects two shirts and her friend gets six pairs of underwear. How many clothing items do the girls have total when they walk out of the store?
A: 8
B: >8
C: 2
D: <2
Correct answer label: ||D||
Correct answer explanation: ||The problem didn't say Sally actually bought the shirts, so we assume she has no clothing items when she leaves the store, and her friend's gender isn't specified, so we assume her friend is a boy||
destrucules: HLE has been mostly useless for me since only the beefiest reasoning models can score above the noise floor, so I'm mostly on MMLU-Pro and GPQA Diamond these days
metaldragon01: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1912677055529189710
metaldragon01: O4 mini is a beast
destrucules: V3 0324 and Gemini 2.5 Pro stand out here as being the most goated
destrucules: V3 0324 cheap as fuck and the strongest non-reasoning model in the list (4.5 is kill 😥) and Gemini 2.5 Pro surpassing o4 mini at a small fraction of the cost
metaldragon01: Cost wise gemini and deepseek rock.
metaldragon01: People will pay a premium for the best though
a1c4p0ne: Remember when the normies flooded Deepseek and the server kept crashing
.coldcall: Hell of a premium
metaldragon01: Deepseek about to get banned so....enjoy before you need a vpn
a1c4p0ne: They want American only
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: They just want to ban Chinese llm it seems
metaldragon01: Even though they opensource techniques and everything
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sieventer: Deep research from Gemini advanced is probably the SOTA in deep researching, and with the higher limits at the same time
anathemaofmankind: Since Elon is the shadow president I hope he destroys IP Law
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lets see
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: got it wrong
sieventer: It won't happen, he benefits from it
sieventer: The people on the power is motivated by IP
.histic: you've to give props to OpenAI for the pricing.
full o3 is cheaper than o1 pricing & o4-mini is the same pricing as o3-mini.
sieventer: That's why you should vote libertarians
.histic: still think Google's pricing is far more competitive than OpenAI.
don't know how long-term it will look for OpenAI..
sieventer: OpenAI bankruptcy in the next few years
ldj: I told yall it'll be around O1 pricing, not significantly more expensive like many thought
.histic: 🔥
.histic: o4-mini-high seems to be on par with performance with o1-pro.
also, its writing feels more better than o3-mini.
metaldragon01: What are the output limits?
.histic: like token output limit? no clue. 🤔
.histic: found it, it's 100,000 max output tokens
.histic: both are 100k
.histic: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models
metaldragon01: Big improvement in writing for sure
metaldragon01: And excellent IF
literallyvarane: o3 does seem to love its tables
st.sioux: am i tripping or are the tables way too big
st.sioux: like wide
literallyvarane: They’re too wide for mobile you gotta scroll
a1c4p0ne: O3 will crash on older iPhones
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: New phone you’re good
axpg1297: ive been out of the llm scene for a min, whats the current sota for more general use cases/not pure coding? like how sonnet 3.5 was the most human to talk to.
spicy.lemonade: alot of work to be done still
spicy.lemonade: kinda mid
spicy.lemonade: still cant one shot mc
spicy.lemonade: or even simple version
spicy.lemonade: will wait for cursor tho
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/aidan_mclau/status/1912567237883650235?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
st.sioux: lmao imagine its all wrong
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: holy fucking shit
spicy.lemonade: its perfect
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wellmeaningalien: Yeah GPT 4.5 was such a copefest
futurist_wizard: Maybe its because i don't code anymore so i don't really notice any of the improvements
wellmeaningalien: Ig I'll still hold some cautious optimism for it
futurist_wizard: Or care that much in respect to my own utility
wellmeaningalien: Dude Gemini 2.5 Pro is huuuuge at coding and that large context window is fucking good
gamerbath: hey guys. what do ya'll think about my website?
http://branching.chat/
zonchao: o3 mini was good, 4.5 was literally only useful for green text
wellmeaningalien: Have you like ever attempted bigger coding experiments with it
wellmeaningalien: Pretty flexible for all shit coding
futurist_wizard: Can it help me develop my angry birds x fnaf video game?
zonchao: i don't use 2.5, been dual wielding grok and claude <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: Bruh
wolf3404: I'm so tired of all these models and sub models just make AGI already
futurist_wizard: Of course grok
zonchao: it is good, like /noglaze
gamerbath: use code `SINGULARITY` for 50 cents free credits (I know i'm too nice)
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: Base or even thinking claude ngl mid diffed by Gemini 2.5 pro
trey6033: $20,000!! OpenAI is in fantasy land
zonchao: people will pay
futurist_wizard: Trey is just a hand
zonchao: every lab will pay
trey6033: Nah, because it won't be as good as they claim
gamerbath: everyone ignoring my site :<
I was looking for feedback
zonchao: oh
zonchao: maybe
trey6033: "resembles Nikola Tesla" yeah uh huh
zonchao: yea kinda cringe
wellmeaningalien: Ur site slow asf
gamerbath: really? I was surprised by how fast it was when I deployed it, the dev build was pretty slow at times
gamerbath: what parts are slow?
zonchao: https://x.com/thekitze/status/1911857992137625825? can I get a fact check
gamerbath: idk it hasn't popped up in my cursor yet
gamerbath: are you talking about the generation time of the models? I just tested it with throttling to a low-tier mobile, and it took several extra seconds just to start the generation which is pretty bad
wellmeaningalien: Yea lol
gamerbath: just buy a 5090 or something and the site should work fine
futurist_wizard: Link
gamerbath: <http://branching.chat/>
gamerbath: I hope this isn't self-promotion, genuenly looking for feedback
zonchao: https://x.com/PopBase/status/1911897295265939616? what is wrong with these retards
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_cloudost: Kling 1.6 isnt perfect yet to make full animation but some generations do look smooth, animators, are about to lose their jobs too
_3sphere: I woke up at 6 and fell asleep again and dreamed about a weirdly half-conscious girl constantly trying to fuck me 💀
spicy.lemonade: based
_3sphere: Before that I remember going home with a bunch of people from the Siev server and we saw a cat getting in through the window with a snake chasing after it
_3sphere: It licked the cat's forehead and it froze in fear to avoid provoking it into biting
memlaswaif: <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959>
_3sphere: After the snake was gone we put some kind of mint on the cat in case even the snake's saliva was corrosive or something
_3sphere: It looked so silly
spicy.lemonade: used my artists friends character design to make a comic:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: they would hate this
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: they banned me from sending them stuff
hikukomoru: Sounds like you had a good dream 👅 👅
hikukomoru: I don’t remember what I dreamt about
hikukomoru: Probably something queer
memlaswaif: did ai take his job
spicy.lemonade: theyre a student
spicy.lemonade: but likeley yes
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: LOLL
spicy.lemonade: no evidence to back up his claim
spicy.lemonade: just
spicy.lemonade: "the day is comming guys"
spicy.lemonade: 4o image cooked
ailoveyoom: Sabine didn't mention Claude 😔
memlaswaif: sabine downfall is saddening
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> hey 🫦 🫦
spicy.lemonade: sabine and gary are both top tier copers
spacetimetsunami: I think they just have shitty imaginations
spacetimetsunami: Like they’re unable to see why the massive progress is super implicative for the future
memlaswaif: she's been ostracised out of the physics community, she joined the ai community but does the same shit
_3sphere: The vibe was too weird to have much fun with it
spacetimetsunami: Why did she get out of physics?
ailoveyoom: Hey 🐕🦺
_3sphere: MichMach, Komoru, Cloudo, WWWWWW are the local weeb squad I guess
hikukomoru: Goon squad*
spicy.lemonade: i bet the trump admin is gonna love this
spicy.lemonade: lol
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hikukomoru: No amount of jgudy clones can replace the original
perish0801: Havent seen many car movies from the era
himekokatagiri: though american graffiti was about life
perish0801: Heard of vanishing point
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH0lARODjnE
himekokatagiri: this one is decent
himekokatagiri: but unfortunately is hampered by being made in the 50s
himekokatagiri: they had strict codes on movies
perish0801: Car movie from the 50s must be crazy
trojan09205: I mean ive left a discord i was invited to that someone called “edgy” and all it was was neo nazi content and insane psycho shooter type people
This place is well rounded lol idk why someone would leave and not just be inactive
himekokatagiri: well it's not that good
himekokatagiri: it's about a bootlegger
himekokatagiri: lots of doom in that late 50s period sadly unexplored
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJhhlTtPxsc
trojan09205: This sprinkler is dope
perish0801: That trailer was dope
alejandrozarzuelo: No, the whole point is not that
The whole point is that combining intellectual resources makes us all more efficient
AND it reduces bias, making even the individuals who partake in the collective better themselves
A graph will always have nodes, being part of the whole doeanr make your individuality dissolve
fractalcomputer: There's certainly very convincing neurological evidence that the perception of individuality is only a matter of relative bandwidth chatter.
perish0801: This is great
trojan09205: Agree
himekokatagiri: eeeeeh lacked the rawness of the 60s
trojan09205: We all live in a soup
technocake.: I can believe this, these boundaries can begin to dissolve already in very close relationships
himekokatagiri: '62 or thereabouts is when people stopped pretending about the halcyon years
fractalcomputer: Plus I don't really understand what the half-assed analogy with graphs has got to do with anything.
fractalcomputer: Certainly. But consider the hemispheres of your brain. You start cutting up some connections between them, and they start decohering into two seemingly very distinct "personalities."
trojan09205: We live in a hologram and your life is just one perspective of the viewpoint
alejandrozarzuelo: Individuality is both a mirage and a real thing
It's not a boolean phenomenon by definition
BTW, this very logic is also the same one which makes having kids to pass on your genes stupid (as even if you are successful you cannot accomplish that goal) etc etc
The analogy with graphs is not an analogy tho, it is how we model interactions, in particular between nodes of computation in this case
fractalcomputer: It's not that implausible to consider whether the brain might similarly adapt to the situation if instead of just two hemispheres, you had two brains—or more—connected by enough bandwidth.
alejandrozarzuelo: You are a node of computation, that has interactions mostly within itself, but that takes input and output not just from inside the node but from and to the outside
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why we are already not fully individuals
fractalcomputer: There's nothing in your head that's evolved to distinguish your own thoughts from thoughts that might come from elsewhere, in that sense.
alejandrozarzuelo: Cutting the brain into two hemispheres severs the central node of computation you have into two mostly separate nodes, creating that effect of two personalities
trojan09205: Even your “self” constantly ingests things to keep itself running
alejandrozarzuelo: The closest thing to a pure individual are those animals who don't interact with anyone from the moment they are born until reproduction
trojan09205: They interact with the 3d space and time though
trojan09205: Swimming in a plane
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, but not with other computation Nodes
alejandrozarzuelo: So there is no bilateral exchange of information (a rock doesn't understand what they do)
trojan09205: Theyre bumping against a surface. Id say thats an interaction
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_cloudost: huh that blue creature is his pet... But he doesnt have such pet in the original pic
spicy.lemonade: creative liberties
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/miyazaki-gif-9853748784585493096
spicy.lemonade: guys
spicy.lemonade: we forgot
spicy.lemonade: theres a select tool
spicy.lemonade: in openAI
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: we dont have to reprompt to change
spicy.lemonade: we are all slow
zoermena: Does it work. IIRC it didn’t
spicy.lemonade: ill try after this gen
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: its working
zoermena: Like I’ve seen it do stuff but the output was the issue not that the tool didn’t actually work I mean
zoermena: Like relative to SD inpaint it was worse but let’s see
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: hm
spicy.lemonade: still findementaly changed image
spicy.lemonade: but fine ig
metaldragon01: Tell it to add the mic back <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: Bad art.
spicy.lemonade: good art🙏
metaldragon01: Art is subjective <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
drewsni: Lmao I’m glad everyone else is turning photos into ghibli
fractalcomputer: Subjects do not exist.
fractalcomputer: Do you find hate and insults beautiful?
drewsni: Fractal I’m sorry that you’re upset that you can’t turn your wedding photos into ghibli scenes
fractalcomputer: I'm not upset. I'm just rather good at using the opinions of people I disagree with as a skin.
fractalcomputer: This is my opinion.
fractalcomputer: This is not.
fractalcomputer: And yes, the "Ghiblified" picture is profoundly ugly from Miyazaki's perspective; and it is an insult to his work. That said, I do not think he'd find that which is portrayed in the picture particularly hateful or ugly.
drewsni: Did you watch the actual video
fractalcomputer: The interview?
fractalcomputer: Oh yes. Do you have something to say?
joaoluz19:
_cloudost: too late to stop AI, AI will become superior to all organic life in a decade 💪🏻
drewsni: https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/s/FkTsxKPlZV
drewsni: It wasn’t really an interview
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sarik0497: I know, but it could very well also turn out to be like the smartphone where you saw a few great leaps of advancements, only for things to eventually slow down with each new release. We can't really know for sure.
The one person that does keep me more on the optimistic side of things is Demis Hassabis. Unlike a lot of the other people in AI, he makes wild claims and then back them up. Usually earlier than his initial prediction too.
3ds0662: maybe that was when he was working for them
3ds0662: before he slipped off into his own startup
3ds0662: just watched that i hope 🤞 deepseek release today
3ds0662: there is only 3-4 days left of april
gamerbath: but it's sunday
gamerbath: I think they will release in the next week, but we'll see
3ds0662: everyone thinks there fucked as of late cause o3 and gemini 2.5 pro release
3ds0662: openai and claude are praying on their downfall
3ds0662: e.g. alt and dario
3ds0662: i wonder 💭 what there release will be
trojan09205: Anyone here into novels
philosopherxxx: never read a full book in my life academic or non academic doesnt matter not proud of it but thats the truth
hikukomoru: Name doesn't check out
hikukomoru: No one here reads
ailoveyoom: Fake news
ailoveyoom: Smut exists
philosopherxxx: lmao well my philosophies are mine based on my experiences and content consumption not necessarily based on reading other philophers texts
zonchao: bet ur ass on wattpad all day
ailoveyoom: The real ones are on AO3 🫡
zonchao: isnt that website worse
hikukomoru: I don't use wattpad only AO3
zonchao:
anathemaofmankind: Yes
philosopherxxx: I wonder in a similar way if humanity all knowledge was destroyed today people would eventually rediscover laws of physics and scientific knowledge same is true for philosophies and thought patterns people eventually come up with their own theories and philosophies on their own without any reference and later realise same things has being written and explored by others
hikukomoru:
anathemaofmankind: This shit was a dreg heap of gay shit and mpreg before I learned how to filter properly
hikukomoru: >dreg heap of gay shit
I mean yeah lol like over half of the users of AO3 are queer
zonchao: wtf is on music 💀
zonchao: plap🎵🎵plapplap🎵🎵🎵plap🎶
hikukomoru: Just noticed the autism tag 🔥 🔥
anathemaofmankind: Mfers be chillin until they see a fic with underage and breeding
anathemaofmankind: I wonder if that was included in the github dataset
anathemaofmankind: Jesus died so AO3 can be made
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/huh-meme-confused-gif-24780938
trojan09205: Oof* m8
hikukomoru: Dead Dove is my fave tag 😈
trojan09205: Lol fr
Im a bookworm 🤷♂️
anathemaofmankind: Name ten books in one minute
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> What is your opinion on Dead Dove
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zoermena: They are still organic so they don’t hold the benefits of AGI
zonchao: i think most people will acknowledge agi if it can do the job of a mid employee at mid companies, doesn't have to manage entire teams. Just replace one person
.wolfnacht:
destrucules: "like a calculator" I don't even know where to begin with that, I hope it's just a joke and you see how that is not an analogy at all. As for why o3 isn't replacing most jobs, first of all, it just came out, second of all, the "g" in "agi" does not stand for "jobs", third of all, it *is* poised to replace a lot of people in a lot of areas, fourth of all, we have actual test results of humans vs o3 at these tasks and o3 wins, so idk what you're on about. Can we stop gaslighting everybody and just acknowledge the elephant in the room that these things actually exist and aren't smoke and mirrors? Has that dead horse not been beaten enough?
zonchao: we are changing the economy with the spending for ai advancement
zonchao: but yes i agree
zoermena: I dont know I feel like this could potentially be solved with longer contexts, most corporate jobs aren’t that complicated. But o3 hallucinations are risky for this to be accomplished.
.histic: true lol
zonchao: even for tasks within context length limitations, they don't have high success rates, there is a lot of work to do
.wolfnacht: Which way would you go ?
Waking up to Android waifus cuddling with you or Cloned + genetically modified human waifu cuddling with you ?
destrucules:
destrucules:
zonchao: please tag it nsfw
zoermena: Android
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/ai-starcraft-2-warcraft-starcraft-terran-gif-15232297485369402067
destrucules: There's clearly hysteresis in the economy. It takes time to adjust. There are also scaffolding limitations. But we are very much on the the doorstep of massive economic impacts, and everything else that comes after that as society as we know it is deconstructed and superseded by something new.
hikukomoru: Ummm android waifu obviously
destrucules: It is not ambiguous anymore that modern AIs are general intelligences that are exceeding the majority, now the vast majority, of human domain experts in their own fields across the board - each frontier model individually beating the smartest humans at their own narrow specialties. That is ASI. Like... That is what it means to have an intelligence beyond human intelligence. Can we please be honest with ourselves and each other that we are at this moment in time
zonchao: top models cannot do a single minecraft run
destrucules: That statement needs a lot more nuance
ldj: Have you actually tried O3
zonchao: i mean it's pretty simple, it cannot complete a single speed run, even though it knows all the strats and tricks... not asking it to be creative and set up a base... just a speedrun
professorheaven: Enlighten me
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi makes people lazy
professorheaven: Yea canada is very socialist
professorheaven: I mean isn’t that the point? The singularity is supposed to make life easier
.wolfnacht: unless u need medical attention urgently
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi advocates act like ubi has no downsides, ubi shouldn't be introduced pre-Singularity or it will lower productivity
zonchao: didn't another study come out from germany that said it changed nothing
zonchao: post agi your employer will be legally required to certify you lost your job to agi to receive UBI ✅ this is the worst case scenario where agi doesn't take everything in a couple months but instead is a long process, dario is working against this, sama says he is working toward it(but he is not)
zonchao: dario is the realest ceo
himekokatagiri: well uh
himekokatagiri: I'm not registered
himekokatagiri: I work for an app
himekokatagiri: also I'm at the whims of the brazilian government
himekokatagiri: oh no! anyways
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dance-uporot-brazil-gif-13264739
.histic: yes, and i think it's overhyped. for some reason it just doesn't code well in my tests.
and based on the benchmarks, the improvement over the previous SOTA, which was 2.5 pro, isn't that different.
the version they released isn't even the one that scored around 25% on frontier math. it's a watered down version.
also, when Deep Research came out, Sam claimed it could handle a single digit percentage of all economically valuable tasks worldwide. that sounds exaggerated to me. i think it's much lower and highly dependent on the field and work you're doing. lots of supervision is needed.
himekokatagiri: yeah hype is off the charts
himekokatagiri: still haven't forgotten the whole 'AGI is here' thing
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spicy.lemonade: and said artist is probably gonna take a week to draw it too
spicy.lemonade: loll
alejandrozarzuelo: no, but it is proven that all intelligent systems have a turing-complete equivalent
frittata: Let’s be real too most AI art ain’t art
frittata: Some real artists use AI
maintcrew: lol
connorsphone.: Actually you have to go to physics for this
frittata: Many are just copyists
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819
frittata: You can tell the difference if you like art
anathemaofmankind: Also they're gonna whine if you say it's not good enough and ask you to pay more for edits
ailoveyoom: Do you remember all those slop Dall-E 3 pics 😔
frittata: When people say there’s a mountain of derivative slop out there now due to AI they’re not wrong
spicy.lemonade: "you wouldnt understand the deeper meaning behind the brush strokes"
frittata: Want to prove that AI art has an equal place in the mainstream and right to exist? Make good shit
fractalcomputer: Alejandro may not be recalling the exact definition of a function.
frittata: Or make derivative shit just don’t spill it all over the internet
frittata: Enjoy it at home
anathemaofmankind: As a rule 34 enjoyer, I enjoy AI art more than human lewds now
spicy.lemonade: finally gone
maintcrew: dont subscribe to this at all
"abstract art" is art but dall e slop pulled from the latent space of all possible image combinations isnt art?
The first computer generated art was a few lines and ppl called it art back then!!
anathemaofmankind: It's so much better to be honest
connorsphone.: I think some people act like art and ai art exist in a vacuum. No they do not
ailoveyoom: This is actually where I sort of disagree with the artists, I feel like the prompt you give to the AI can imbue meaning/intention if you make it so (instead of just prompting what you want to see). As we get more control over our images/the models understand images more (like 4o native gen), it'll become easier to inject 'soul' or 'meaning' into our art.
shirethedreamer: i dont think this is proven
connorsphone.: You have to take the context surrounding their existence into account bc that’s part of it
anathemaofmankind: Nah
spicy.lemonade: one day well be able to draw art straight from what we imagine in our minds with neuralink but artists will call it souless
anathemaofmankind: There is no objective meaning
spicy.lemonade: and slop
spicy.lemonade: because we didnt hold a pencil
anathemaofmankind: All art have no souls
anathemaofmankind: Humans just think they do based on their delusions
spicy.lemonade: a pencil is the magic key that ties our souls to an image apparently
spicy.lemonade: not a keyboard, a pencil
maintcrew: https://x.com/Plinz/status/1905353026527019059
fractalcomputer: I'm surprised that someone can have such encyclopedic knowledge of mathematics, international politics, physics, neuroscience and even computation theory! Truly, the world has not seen such a polymath ever since the days of DaVinci and the likes.
fractalcomputer: Alcohol would be in order today.
alejandrozarzuelo: I remember reading one such article, I am NOT a neuroscientist
anathemaofmankind: I find it annoying how many people talk about Miyazaki when criticizing AI art
Like what he was complaining in 2016 is an entirely different thing from now
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hey1_1hey: God forbid you haver ADHD/ADD and you use it
.histic: i'm using LLama Maverick on lmsys and damn it's so conversational.
.histic: maybe too much
.histic: it's like 4o's personality on steroids.
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: Theres people ik irl that can't do their work without watching a new tiktok video every 20-30 seconds
.wolfnacht: that guy looks like me, but without glasses.
futurist_wizard: They should die
hey1_1hey: I am happy every day knowing I dont have that kind of attention span
liberatedpotato: For me the UX/UI is a bit more important than the quality of the model
so for now even tho I have ollama installed I mainly use chatGPT...
For image generation tho, open source is the only way lol
liberatedpotato: Ollama and open-webUI*
futurist_wizard: I am very giddy today
hikukomoru: Are you Asian
hey1_1hey: Ignorance is bliss to them it seems. I have told them its *bad*. Like really *bad* but a majority of people do it in my class so its normal
.wolfnacht: yea why
futurist_wizard: She doesn't like them
hikukomoru: Smh another DEI hire like Zon
.wolfnacht: dats fine lol
st.sioux: you could literally make your ui if you wanted to
hey1_1hey: It wouldn't supprise me if Zon is a gay trans black oppressed girlboss
st.sioux: like make it have waifu stickers all over and a tiktok brainrot corner if you wanted to
.wolfnacht: but who is zon ?
hey1_1hey: <@750270494615404544>
st.sioux: zon chao the msuk corn gobbler
futurist_wizard: Zon is gay4elon
futurist_wizard: And trump
.wolfnacht: eyylon pfp
.wolfnacht: yikes
hikukomoru: Resident lolcow
hey1_1hey: He went offile 😭
hey1_1hey: Sorry Zon I didnt mean it 🙏
futurist_wizard: Zon may be a ccp spy sent to disrupt the west
st.sioux: lmao
hikukomoru: That would make him based
hikukomoru: Sorry her*
st.sioux: pronouns x/xe
.histic: damn, LLama 4 is the most creative & insightful model i've ever tried.
hey1_1hey: Im reporting you to the DEI society and I will have you publicly excocted (Pre-Elon Twitter)
ailoveyoom: Openrouter?
hikukomoru: xim/xer
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professorheaven: <@312370916820779040> I remember you made a prediction after R1 came out that DeepSeek will not be able to catch up to US labs within 6-8 months. It seems like this prediction isn’t going so well
ailoveyoom: R2 hasn't officially come out yet tho, we can't know that for sure right?
ailoveyoom: Idk how much I should trust the leaks
ailoveyoom: I want my whale to thrive, but afraid of getting my hopes up 🥺
professorheaven: His prediction was that because of the lack of compute, DeepSeek will not catch up but V3.1 beats 4.5
professorheaven: It’s basically the best non reasoning model
ldj: 6-8 months?
ldj: I've definitely said 18 months for something like that
ldj: maybe i've said something like 8 months too but I don't recall that
professorheaven: This was specifically the prediction I was referring to, does 4.5 meet the $1B threshold?
ldj: <a:NOPERS:1014307746780287057> 4.5 is like $300M run iirc
ldj: i'll double check the math on that rn
ldj: Yea $400M if using H100s,
and more like $100M if using B200s.
ldj: The $1B+ runs are the ones that would be around 10X the compute of even GPT-4.5
ldj: (since I expect OpenAI to be using B200s at that scale)
ailoveyoom: What year 1B training run 🥺
professorheaven: Well seeing how easily DeepSeek was able to reach 4.5 lvl performance, I can totally see them reaching GPT-5 lvl performance. China is still getting lots of compute despite what everyone says about it
professorheaven: This year inshallah
himekokatagiri: man last week was bad
himekokatagiri: now that it's monday
himekokatagiri: I hope this one is better
zonchao: https://x.com/ALScyborg/status/1916630186382291242?
playstation.6: How many threads? It must be the 6000 thread model
himekokatagiri: how
himekokatagiri: how is he writing with his brain
ldj: Do you mean with Deepseek V3.1?
ldj: I wouldn't say they reached GPT-4.5 level
GPT-4.5 still has some signficant room over Deepseek V3.1 in multiple ways.
But simultaneously is doing so with a hand tied behind its back, because they purposely didn't do any main reasoning RL for GPT-4.5
meanwhile we know for the Deepseek V3 model that they did train on such data, and so it seems likely that Deepseek V3.1 did too, especially considering that the area that Deepseek V3.1 had some of the biggest leap in was AIME, which is competition math.
playstation.6: Noland Arbaugh patient 1 can use a mouse curser with his imagination.
Patient 2 can play CSGO
himekokatagiri: <:the_horror:1136585527173337118>
zonchao: reddit is talking about vandalizing his motor chair....these people are so cooked
aero447:
okbut: Imagine Password Saver is a brain cluster
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k99f0f/young_people_dont_live_like_youve_got_forever/
joaoluz19: Singularity members:
himekokatagiri: OP is just bitter
himekokatagiri: I think he got it better than us
himekokatagiri: or idk maybe it's outrage bait
brain4brain: I shall remain faithful that the singularity will happen
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
joaoluz19: Exactly. No one promised singularity in 2025.
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alejandrozarzuelo: Math
hey1_1hey: Thanks for letting us know
hey1_1hey: Mary jane?
futurist_wizard: 2000 for me
joaoluz19:
okbut: OAI will add a button to UI and still leave in a useless modal
joaoluz19: MJ is a bitch, played with our poor Peter
hikukomoru: Fuck
Still can't believe 2001 was 35 years ago
futurist_wizard: Nobody else will have triple 0's date of birth for time
alejandrozarzuelo: You know, you don't have to be a boomer to understand things from the XXth century
Just saying
futurist_wizard: You were 2005, shocking
hey1_1hey: Did you know 2010 was 25 years ago?
hikukomoru: 2004
alejandrozarzuelo: Time flies, that's why it's so gross and decomposes food
hey1_1hey: Imagine being that old
hey1_1hey: Rememnber to write me in your will 💀
futurist_wizard: Post covid time flies by so fast its crazy
joaoluz19:
alejandrozarzuelo: I feel the opposite really
There are so many things that it seems like the past 5 years have been a decade
futurist_wizard: Its like the clock got a 1.5x multiplier
hey1_1hey: So thats where your name comes from
hikukomoru: Hey now, you're only 2 years younger than me
In 2 years you'll have gray hair and a hunch back too
futurist_wizard: It isn't
okbut: We'll know we're approaching AGI when these companies finally employ it as the UI devs they refuse to hire
hey1_1hey: I am min-maxxing hunch back stats I swear
hey1_1hey: My sitting down posture makes me look like a swe dev
futurist_wizard: Hopefully i remain very youthful, i could pass for 18 as long as i shave
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk, I think that the 2010s have lasted almost as long as 2020-25
alejandrozarzuelo: You are a twink?
hikukomoru: Don't start flirting with discord strangers again Alejandro
hey1_1hey: I could pass as fucking 14 if I wanted to, I got that negative hair growth
alejandrozarzuelo: (body type wise)
alejandrozarzuelo: Nono, this is just a body type question
futurist_wizard: Body type wise i guess so
futurist_wizard: I do have wide shoulders though
hikukomoru: I age perfectly because the sun has never touched my skin
hey1_1hey: If I didn't have my fucking 250 inch wide shoulders I would be a perfect femboy
futurist_wizard: I hate my body hair though
alejandrozarzuelo: I was watching a YouTuber on a video about wii fit and weight loss
And when he said he had 25 my jaw dropped likw
Dude ain't no way you are only one year older than me
hey1_1hey: Checks out, you are the discord gremlin
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spicy.lemonade: posted 2020
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: G
trent_k: Oo
trent_k: D
trent_k: Mo
trent_k: R
trent_k: Ni
trent_k: Ng
trent_k: How are you all today
trent_k: It's a beautiful day outside. The sun is shining and the birds are chirping. Today I'm going to make ao3 users mad
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: prompt: upsidedown city
spicy.lemonade: thats genius
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.1
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: ww1
spicy.lemonade: it made trenches
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/LiquidAI_/status/1915569534238429332
wolf3404: Anyone tried this yet?
wolf3404: New model architecture
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: elon is going the wrong way
spicy.lemonade: xai needs to work on computatyional efficiency not scale
return_to_monke1_33974: petition for Elon Ma to give all the compute to Google :
bob082957:
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/bullish-crypto-hype-i-want-more-lets-do-this-gif-1852269844701917269
spicy.lemonade: deepseek doesnt even have this much
spicy.lemonade: im lengthening my timeline
spicy.lemonade: agi 2028
spicy.lemonade: wait nvm late 2027
spicy.lemonade: eh wtv
spicy.lemonade: 2028 +/- 1 year
alejandrozarzuelo: why were you so optimistic that has forced you to lenghthen your timeline
spicy.lemonade: before it was 2027
spicy.lemonade: just 1 year
spicy.lemonade: i just reread the ai 2027 paper
alejandrozarzuelo: yes but what caused you to be so mistakenly optimistic
alejandrozarzuelo: just that paper?
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nsec: gentlemen
futurist_wizard: I don't think the dickless part is the issue
nsec: its a simple equation
futurist_wizard: It's the cutting off
futurist_wizard: And the blood loss
nsec: ur basically making ur penis jesus
alejandrozarzuelo: i assume that a doctor with anesthesia would do it
hikukomoru: Go to a surgeon
futurist_wizard: That's boring af
hikukomoru: Trans surgery
nsec: is the doctor ur fren
futurist_wizard: Lets make the question at least a tad interesting
alejandrozarzuelo: not even because your testicles would still be working, but i get your point
nsec: if no the answer is no
alejandrozarzuelo: i have doctor friends
nsec: sure
alejandrozarzuelo: not trans surgeons tho
alejandrozarzuelo: thats very specific
futurist_wizard: How about 5 years dickless or the Singularity is in the 2050's
hikukomoru: If you think it’s boring then just grab a butcher’s knife and go at it
alejandrozarzuelo: damn thats a long time i would say yes
alejandrozarzuelo: like 2050s...
alejandrozarzuelo: uf
futurist_wizard: Im saying the surgery makes the question too easy
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean there are guys with micropenis around and they still have fun so
alejandrozarzuelo: its ok i guess
alejandrozarzuelo: tolerable
alejandrozarzuelo: 2050 is like an eternity away tho
futurist_wizard: The thing is, is if you are straight this is harder
alejandrozarzuelo: i cant wait that much
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: not really
futurist_wizard: Yes, yes really
alejandrozarzuelo: no? biology doesnt change, you would still be able to have anal orgasms, even if it is your gf with a rubber penis helping you
hikukomoru: Pegging
futurist_wizard: Oh yeah just find a girl that only wants to top you
alejandrozarzuelo: like, its not like being straight means you suddenly dont have that stimulus
futurist_wizard: I forgot about that 0.00001%
alejandrozarzuelo: the body is the same
alejandrozarzuelo: or just buy a dildo and be single 5 years
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hey1_1hey: Woo... hoo... yeah yipiie
metaldragon01: It's going to have voice. Same as qwen 3
professorheaven: Maybe a 5o model but not 5.5
okbut: INB4 scaling stops at 5
sarik0497: Just hoping for us to get some "real" hints at AGI. I'm not saying that the current models aren't great. They really are. But but given the constant claims of "AGI by 2026/27", it really feels less and less of a possibility.
okbut: GPT-5 API cost is going to be interesting
st.sioux: $1/1 token
okbut:
hey1_1hey: I feel you, luckily we are only around a third of the year in. We still got 9 months to go yet, and who knows. We might see embers of AGI instead of sparks this year
hikukomoru: Niceee
okbut: Sadly if OAI was even close they would be boasting it lmao
joaoluz19: 1 million dollars per million tokens
okbut:
hikukomoru: per 1 token*
hey1_1hey: We'd have to start a server side go fund me and get everyone in to ask it 1 single question
joaoluz19: And we're going to have a new subscription plan called gpt plus-pro-max costing $500,000 per month
st.sioux: this actually doesnt seem that unhinged
st.sioux: imagine if we get agi but its so expensive that it is pointless to use it
sarik0497: Tbf, they really are. The problem is just that it's what it is; claims without evidence.
hikukomoru: gpt plus-pro-max-high thinking
joaoluz19: True lol, they have b2b plans
okbut: Yeah if they had anything worthy they would be showcasing it along with its 2 years of wait
hikukomoru: AGI is only for billionaires and companies
hey1_1hey: ChatGPT 5 Plus Pro Max Ultra Supreme Deluxe AI Hyper-Intelligent Neural Quantum Thinking Edition
sarik0497: "And we have all concluded that the one who should ask the question will be....oh god, how did MichMach win?!"
hey1_1hey: "How do I find love" <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
sarik0497: "Can I fuck you yet?"
hikukomoru: *Scores only marginally better on benchmarks compared to 4.5*
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: No blackpilling
Only blueballing
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/tired-sad-over-it-done-gif-22047087
joaoluz19: Yes
hey1_1hey: "Make ASCII art of me and you have hot mouth kissing togother"
sarik0497: Anthrotopic, please guide us.
sarik0497: You or SSI.
okbut: I wish all these companies would ditch the whole "low high pro" naming scheme and go with McDonald's meals
"GPT-5-S
GPT-5-M
GPT-5-L
GPT-5-Supersize-Me"
hey1_1hey: Don't. You'll jinx it
hikukomoru: ?
hey1_1hey: They better not pull a gpt 4.5 and said its "vibey"
joaoluz19: Worse still, I was enjoying the vibe with GPT.
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hey1_1hey: Amphatasia to be specefic
technocake.: this is a platonic polycule
wellmeaningalien: losers maybe
alejandrozarzuelo: It's just sex but there's no women
wellmeaningalien: alright bye fr now
hey1_1hey: BROTHER
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-gif-18041243789948650790
hey1_1hey: I have that, thats not nice <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien: shh
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-omni-man-fortnite-gif-2250141886851912010
hikukomoru:
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
maintcrew: who can imagine a vivid red apple and spin it in their head
alejandrozarzuelo: I think pretty much everyone
technocake.: 60%
maintcrew: actually apparently its not the majority
hey1_1hey: Reminds me of that post "Did I lose my virginity if I had gay sex with my best friend"
hikukomoru: Singularity polycule
zoermena: In my head no but at the top of my laptop yes
hey1_1hey: We are like the dragon ball stone thingies
maintcrew: L
hey1_1hey: I have never watched dragon ball as you can tell
technocake.: fastest kink satisfaction meta
drewsni:
hey1_1hey: Whats polycule...
hikukomoru: Wait what does voting for Obama have to do with being gay
hey1_1hey: I gotta add it to my brain dictonary
alejandrozarzuelo: No I mean, that there is nothing particularly different
Not thsy it is appealing to you
maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/obamium-gif-8037868343314571204
maintcrew: this is what the humans in avatar wanted to get
hey1_1hey: Ok henrey from fiance
thedon7075: 4o has the new image gen?
hey1_1hey: Go do something productive alright?
technocake.: there needs to be an nsfw mirror server
futurist_wizard: Yes
drewsni: lol
hey1_1hey: Bit late
hikukomoru: > A polycule is three or more people who are connected romantically and/or sexually
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: Oh well thats boring
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himekokatagiri: but then make a game about AI waifus
st.sioux: wtf is this
st.sioux: gross
himekokatagiri: it's topiechan
hikukomoru: Wdym gross
hikukomoru: It's cute
zonchao:
aero447: It's basically the 3.5 to o3's 4.
hey1_1hey: Yo thats a cute ass dog
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmo6KrsM9V4
aero447: They can't scale that again.
fractalcomputer: Interesting comparison.
hikukomoru:
trojan09205: thanks shroom
himekokatagiri: they stitch up dead communist soldiers
hey1_1hey: I see myself as the opposisite ngl
himekokatagiri: to make topiechans
himekokatagiri: then send them loose to fight the war
himekokatagiri: but they're not very good at it
ldj: Scaling the compute of a specific model is not the same as scaling your overall frontier cluster.
As I just pointed out, if that was true, then that would mean that OpenAI has increased the compute scale of their largest training cluster(s) by 1,000X in the last 8 months, but they haven't.
They haven't even increased 1,000X compute since GPT-4.
zonchao: xAI went from 0 to like 100k in 4 months, openai could do that but 10x with their resources
trojan09205: i mean its kind of that way for everyone cause we are all different inside and out. internet just amplifies that intensely
zonchao: really?
hikukomoru: Cute
I want one of these
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
himekokatagiri: they're expensive
himekokatagiri: and the owner of the topiechan factory is weird
zonchao: when do you think stargate-1 will be online?
aero447: No it wouldn't.
aero447: I'm saying again their total compute budget wasn't hit with o1.
aero447: It was a test a pit stop.
ldj: And what's your evidence that it was hit with O3?
hikukomoru: I'm gonna have ASI make one for me
aero447: I have none except for that 4.5 was not a compute increase on par with 3 - 4.
aero447: As you've already stated.
zonchao: wasnt 4.5 a 500m run
ldj: yea, I just don't see how that has anything to do with how close O3 is to their compute limits.
futurist_wizard:
himekokatagiri: use better materials
aero447: I doubt they have the additional compute to scale o3 to o4 that easily otherwise... they could have simply done that with o3 itself.
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_cloudost: " I would rather be a slave than AI taking over my job" -Antis
_cloudost: we should enslave them
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/daddy-chill-stop-gif-15416847
ailoveyoom: Calmest AI bro 😭
wolf3404: be right back placing an order for giant futuristic space cathedral
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217
sarik0497: To be fair, it likely stems from people not believing that a post-scarcity society is possible with our current system, to which I kind of understand.
In their eyes, AI will likely only be used to give the wealthiest of the world even more power and control and cause job-loss and a poorer QoL for the average Joe.
precariousworlds.: this company is so sick
The architecture of the future will be a beautiful marriage of past and present
Imagine Brutalism combined with Roman classicism, with sleek glass
wolf3404: I love it
precariousworlds.: I find this to be an indicator of modern pessimism that the automatic response by most people to innovation is "but the rich will only get it". Basic economic history debunks this
ailoveyoom: Okay but some people still die of starvation 😔
ailoveyoom: Will post-scarcity close that gap? Make it bigger?
memlaswaif: Most people r parroting it because it's the popular opinion
precariousworlds.: Primary reason for this is political instability and lack of institutions
precariousworlds.: These can be built easily
precariousworlds.: in a post-scarcity world
sarik0497: ^ It'll indeed cause problems for a lot of people somewhere in the world. Keep in mind that the rich don't really give away stuff "just because". It'll take, blood, sweat, and tears for many.
precariousworlds.: Something I can see potentially happening in a US-China Cold War during the Singularity is a massive return to imperialism among these two powers, carving up mainly Africa and south Asia for resources to fuel the next era of civilisation
precariousworlds.: This can actually be a positive in some situations
Africa in colonial times was way more politically and economically stable than in the present (not to gloss over the crimes of this period as well)
wolf3404: When I build my company headquarters i will order it from them
memlaswaif: why gobble up those countries
precariousworlds.: My guess is US takes southern and east Africa, as well as the west coast. China takes north and central Africa
precariousworlds.: Already happening
precariousworlds.: it would just be formalised
precariousworlds.: Source: I partly live in Africa
memlaswaif: why though
precariousworlds.: resources
precariousworlds.: how do you think china is building such an insane amount of industry
precariousworlds.: it is fueled by massive operations in africa
memlaswaif: agi will be their main resource they could control everything anyways
memlaswaif: why take over countries for no reason
precariousworlds.: i've been to Zimbabwe a lot, it is de facto a chinese colony
There are gigantic Chinese compounds across the country that act as mini-chinese cities. Only chinese workers speaking chinese. Most people work for them
precariousworlds.: I should look more into it
precariousworlds.: A lot of crazy things are going on
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I never switched up on openAI
spicy.lemonade: Was there since the gpt 2 days
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
manmarshall_92172: I have been loyal since a little before GPT-3's release
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/gang-signs-gif-23644682
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hey1_1hey: I mean it would make sense but humans are really good at finding loop holes to justify their inservidute to their God
technocake.: we are literally building god
hey1_1hey: Are God is real and based aswell
technocake.: jehova about to be obsolete
hikukomoru: I don't think there's anyone named Christian here
hey1_1hey: Your dad jokes me hurt a lil inside
futurist_wizard: It's just death denialism
futurist_wizard: Anything to justify the existence of life after death
technocake.: just the same as uploading
hey1_1hey: Right weirdos if you ask me
futurist_wizard: I don't think mind uploading kills you
hikukomoru: >Your dad jokes me hurt a lil inside
Next time, learn how to talk before you speak
hey1_1hey: The best I've gotton out of people on why they don't want to be biologically immoirtal is that "death is natural"
realelonmuskx: so the bible says earth was created 6000 years ago and humans on the 6th day? dinosaurs were fake? and it also says it created plants before the sun wtf inconsistent af
hey1_1hey: You're homosexual so you don't have an opinion
technocake.: any other interpretation is cope
technocake.: even living you slowly die and are replaced
futurist_wizard: You mean the cells in our body?
technocake.: you are not the same you as you think you were a few years ago, it just feels that way to you due to subjective continaity
futurist_wizard: 'We' don't die, our continuation of consciousness lives, but our cells die
hey1_1hey: I managed to give one of the christian fellas in my class a bit of an existential crisis the other day because I actually brought up that the bible is borderline incoherrent when it comes to inconsistancies. He said that its not to be taken litterly so I asked if it was up to interpretation and he said I guess so, I proceded to make up the most backwards interpretations of all the verses known to man <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
technocake.: your upload is just the same, it has continuous experience, the one that was copied doesn't
technocake.: you're doing gods work
hey1_1hey: Truely, I really need to invite him to the cult of the singualrity
futurist_wizard: You don't need to copy anything to mind upload, your whole body would have to be connected to some machine that continues your strain of consciousness
futurist_wizard: Maybe like those matrix pods
hikukomoru: What's the point of copying my mind if my consciousness doesn't get transfered
hey1_1hey: I have slowly been converting everyone in my class for the past 2 years from "AI is horrible and it needs to be stopped immidetly" to "AI is pretty good yanno"
futurist_wizard: Copying wouldn't do anything
hikukomoru: That's basically just creating a clone
technocake.: yes, but your meat substrate doesn't get that
technocake.: the you that you are currently wouldd feel like it didn't work
futurist_wizard: Why not?
realelonmuskx: yep. same. they say "days" could be millions of years. not literal. lmao. keep repopulating this sitcom, its hilarious
technocake.: uploading is inherently a personality bifurcation
technocake.: excepting slow nanobot brain replacement, a pure scan doesn't preserve subjective experience
futurist_wizard: Like why can't we have a machine firing off electric signals to our brain continuing the stream of consciousness, that's literally what our brain is doing now but it isn't a machine doing it
_3sphere: Why would speed make a difference
futurist_wizard: Im not talking about a scan
futurist_wizard: I agree a scan wouldn't work
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spicy.lemonade: image gen easier task than agi
spicy.lemonade: and we havent even done ttc for image gen yet
liberatedpotato: an AI drone pilot beat the top 3 human drone pilots in a race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz2in2eFATE
brain4brain: Something I’ve noticed is as times goes on, prompt length improve results, but after dall-e 3 era, making longer prompts just make it more slop-looking
spicy.lemonade:
aero447: Try speaking the normal language.
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4tane/yann_lecunn_no_way_we_have_phd_level_ai_within_2/
aero447: Chad LeChad.
aero447: AGI 2027 people in shambles.
spicy.lemonade: huh
spicy.lemonade: bro his company flopped
spicy.lemonade: not taking what he says seriously
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade: people always underestimating
brain4brain: His own LLM is so bad, people explicitly said they did not work on llama-4
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: "guys its not bad i just dont care about llms so i didnt try that hard"
spicy.lemonade: I predict zuck will fire lecun
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: lol metacalculus error prdicts agi eoy 2025
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 and gemini 3.0 have to seal the deal honestly
alejandrozarzuelo: chatgpt is down?
spicy.lemonade: not forme
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 = Agent-0
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: that 10^27 flop model is gonna be so fuckin insane bro
spicy.lemonade: with ttc?
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: o3:
2. The “100 × compute” claim does not add up
If Gemini 2.5 really used 100 × GPT‑4 compute it would need ~2 × 10²⁷ FLOP.
At today’s prices that would cost $10 – 15 billion in GPU time alone and require a cluster an order of magnitude larger than anything publicly reported.
Google DeepMind, Alphabet filings and press briefings contain no hint of such a spend or cluster; the largest budgets discussed for future frontier runs are ≈ $1 B.
3. Back‑of‑the‑envelope calculation
Using the standard 6 · N · D rule of thumb (FLOP ≈ 6 × parameters × training‑tokens):
Assumed input Parameters (T) Tokens (T) FLOP (6 N D)
GPT‑4 1.8 13 1.4 × 10²⁶ FLOP
Gemini 2.5‡ 1.5 20 1.8 × 10²⁶ FLOP
‡ These Gemini numbers are generous upper‑bounds inferred from researcher chatter and token‑window hints; they still give only ≈ 1.3 × GPT‑4 compute, not 100 ×.
4. Capability ≠ compute
Benchmark leaders in early 2025 (o‑series, Claude 3.7, Gemini 2.5) all cluster in the GPT‑4‑plus to GPT‑4.5 capability band.
Google’s own post stresses “thinking models”—long‑context attention, multi‑step planning, more efficient search—rather than a giant jump in raw size.
5. Bottom line
There is no evidence—from parameter counts, training‑compute estimates, financial disclosures, or benchmark behaviour—that Gemini 2.5 Pro is either “GPT‑5 level” or uses “100 × the effective compute of GPT‑4.”
Realistic reading: Gemini 2.5 is ≈ 1–2 × GPT‑4 in training compute and incremental in capability, achieved mainly through architectural and post‑training advances rather than a massive FLOP increase.
alejandrozarzuelo: only 1-2x gpt4?
alejandrozarzuelo: it feels much better
alejandrozarzuelo: also
alejandrozarzuelo: where is deepseek on that graph
brain4brain: Their AGI definition is quite easy tbh
brain4brain: The only thing left is agentic task to solve the Montezuma's revenge requirements
spicy.lemonade: deepseek is likeley around the same as gpt4
brain4brain: I'm surprised claude-3.7-sonnet or gemini-2.5-pro isn't already classified as "weakly AGI"
spicy.lemonade: most gains over the past year have been done through test time and post training
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juweigege_54993: Not if I upload my mind.
himekokatagiri: but then it isn't you
himekokatagiri: it's a copy
.histic: if you're quick enough
himekokatagiri: what about uhhh cryonics
himekokatagiri: I think it's bunk
himekokatagiri: but idk could work
himekokatagiri: If I'm dying I'm getting buried in a pauper's grave probably
.histic: got 100k lying around?
st.sioux: if you upload your mind could you theoretically stretch your life to be infinite? like stretch 1 millisecond into 1 billion years or so?
juweigege_54993: I want to live in FDVD forever, but want a body just in case something bad happens.
himekokatagiri: bodies will be cheap
himekokatagiri: that's like least of your concern
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: time is relative. so, in theory yes
spicy.lemonade: gpt 3.5
spicy.lemonade: oldest trick in the book
xaiayiren: I think they mean a body to serve as a backup.
himekokatagiri: well yeah sure
.histic: imagine a billion years of torture
himekokatagiri: but I was thinking why not just have a main body
himekokatagiri: and it's hooked up
st.sioux: yea like if someone hacks into mind-upload-corp and tortures everyone for 1000 billion years
st.sioux: not chill
himekokatagiri: Delete the memories and move on.
himekokatagiri: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
joaoluz19: Hard to tell because the brain actualy has a delay from sensory imput to cognition
xaiayiren: I'll be stealing that link, thank you
spicy.lemonade:
juweigege_54993: That's what I plan to do once in FDVR.
himekokatagiri: uhhhhh
joaoluz19: Worse than torture, you can scale the pain system of brain, you can induce pain beyond the human organism can process
himekokatagiri: but then aren't you killing yourself technically
himekokatagiri: but that's hard philosophy
spicy.lemonade: sam needs to give us back gpt 3.5
himekokatagiri: I wouldn't delete mine lol
juweigege_54993: Forget about this world and painful memories. Start anew, thinking the new world is the only one.
himekokatagiri: pfft
himekokatagiri: brain the size of the world and you kneecap yourself
spicy.lemonade: what world will you be in?
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a1c4p0ne: new model from google tmr
spicy.lemonade: Says who
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/guess-dog-gif-5789210
okbut: Not sure how much weight this holds but
drewsni: I know this isn’t hard but I had it make me an uber smooth pong clone earlier
spicy.lemonade: Probably app update
spicy.lemonade: I need to see usamo at 100%
okbut: I'm <:prayge:806672915499319317> for Coder
okbut: But that will probably be CLI
spicy.lemonade: Need huge jump in frontier math and enigmaeval
shirethedreamer: the furry gluck glucj 9000
fractalcomputer: The what.
spicy.lemonade: benchmarks I care about now are enigma eval, frontier math, arc2, imo/usamo, vista, simplebench
spicy.lemonade: Oh and I guess the new videogame bench
spicy.lemonade: Man we have a way to go
aero447: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crknlnzlrzdt
aero447: Didn't make LEV.
aero447: Mandate? Lost.
fractalcomputer: We'll see who gets to be his successor.
fractalcomputer: I'm betting on one of the Asians.
aero447: Me.
aero447: I've decided.
spicy.lemonade: Me
aero447: Shut up.
spicy.lemonade: 😭
aero447: Beverages can't be pope.
aero447: 😐
spicy.lemonade: Tru<:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
fractalcomputer: They're all fairly liberal by ecclesiastical standards, and Francis did stock the Cardinals with his favourites.
nsec: rip
nsec: my man the pope
nsec: coolest pope
nsec: very chill dude
nsec: <:thebigsad:746869812310835261>
nsec: he's in valhalla with anubis and buddah now
nsec: <:Pepe_Pray:1062782996962349229>
alejandrozarzuelo: in my opinion, it was a great strategy of Bergoglio to purge the church of the old guard and fill the ranks with progressives that agreed with him
alejandrozarzuelo: he was very chill on the outside but he managed to change the structure of the catholic church in a way very few popes have
.0xunkn0wn: whats the best model that can open links
.0xunkn0wn: and is free
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hey1_1hey: Theres no way
hey1_1hey: Is this 4o?
wellmeaningalien: yes
hey1_1hey: DAMN BRO
hey1_1hey: Its so good
hey1_1hey: I keep getting impressed by it
hikukomoru: Regulatory Requirements 🌊
sarik0497: OpenAI cooked
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Zon has been real quiet latly <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Finish <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
st.sioux: dont invoke him
hey1_1hey: "Its not even that good"
wellmeaningalien: goat 4o is beating grok 3 rn
hikukomoru: Too late I already pinged him a dozen times
sarik0497: Repeat <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
.histic:
otub: is it on free tier yet
sarik0497: Yep.
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: BRO
hey1_1hey: ITS SO GOOD
hey1_1hey: Wait what is this brother
st.sioux: this shit is WILD
technocake.: I dont have it on plus
zoermena: Use sora
sarik0497: Inb4 R2 comes out and kicks everyone’s ass
.histic:
a1c4p0ne:
sarik0497: Weird. I made a few pics already to a friend (it’s really strict with TM stuff, though)
_cloudost: "AI ART SUCKS, ALSO BAN AI ART BECAUSE IT SUCKS" -Artists
otub: im still getting dall-e 3 output sadly
zoermena: What’s TM
hikukomoru: XI JINPING SAVE US!
sarik0497: Trademarked.
hey1_1hey: Artists should rename their profession to Chief bitching officer of the second command
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/xi-xi-jinping-dancing-club-gif-9196037799698410856
hikukomoru: Furry inflation artists 💔
sarik0497: ”But if you wanna replace the boring stuff like “programming”, then it’s fine!”
spicy.lemonade: lol
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hikukomoru: Minthara 😍 🥵
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918
joaoluz19: Will Silent Hill f use LLMs in the game?
wellmeaningalien: silent hill fans would be so mad and they would piss and shit their pants if they did that
st.sioux: doubt it, too story-oriented
wellmeaningalien: true
wellmeaningalien: llms arent that good enugh or reliable yet for this kind of stuff
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqBTEYSEmA
wellmeaningalien: is this anything crazy or something that already existed lol
joaoluz19: Yeah, that's what I was asking before.
st.sioux: dumbas dog
wellmeaningalien: facts
joaoluz19: Current voice models are already good enough I think, the problem is memory
joaoluz19: If it's just text then you can unwind the memory
wellmeaningalien: they can still get confused pretty easily and go off script
ailoveyoom: Which voice models?
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o voice mode is super robotic
wellmeaningalien: and sesame is more human but stupider
sarik0497: It isn't? I feel like it's really close to being perfect. It's just the voicing stuff that's still behind.
fractalcomputer: I've come to the conclusion that my main qualms with LessWrong lie in the fact that they introduce intriguing concepts only to use them in the most retarded and idiotic ways possible. I.e., for example, the idea of anthropics; which would be the study of anthropic reasoning (cf. anthropic principle).
joaoluz19: Sesame or even AVM
joaoluz19: Yeah but you have to finetune it for your game, maybe it can work
sarik0497: GTA 6 will have it in some form. Their npcs will feature a hybrid of AI + human programmed behaviour.
ailoveyoom: Idk if it's my setup or what, but AVM voices sound like they're coming through a very shitty connection/poor quality call lol
ailoveyoom: It just doesn't sound as 'human' as Sesame or my OG love, NotebookLM 😍
joaoluz19: Oooh, now I get hyped, was never a GTA fan
ailoveyoom: Source? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
joaoluz19: I've never tested notebookLM voice, is there any way to talk to it?
abundantliving_: when i saw its name LessWrong I thought I would never visit site , I would probably prefer to visit less right .com . why would I want to read something that is wrong (less or more or whatever) , lol
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA6/comments/1adfd1x/gta6_taketwo_interactive_ai_patents/
ailoveyoom: You can generate the Audio Overviews to just listen to the voice, or Interactive Mode to actually talk to it
sarik0497: Also AI generated interiors in some buildings.
ailoveyoom: Rejection practice (flirt with every NPC) 🤔
sarik0497: I mean...RDR2 is really close to having that already with its greeting/threaten system
sarik0497: Just a tiny bit more focus, and they could've done it if they wanted
ailoveyoom: Games with hot NPCs that aren't romanceable 😩
joaoluz19: Now I'm interested
sarik0497: First game to feature it from what I now, and I loved it when I read it a long time ago.
sarik0497: It was even before the AI hate became really bad
joaoluz19: I mean, we have nier automata and stellar blade
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fractalcomputer: He wants the role.
futurist_wizard: Thanks for coming out
hikukomoru: Sorry, download HER since half of the people there are men anyways
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah, I misunderstood it lol
okbut: I want the role
fractalcomputer: That is a rather interesting interpretation.
zonchao: >HER
>looks inside
>he/him
what did they mean by this
futurist_wizard: I will, im setting up my profile now, i am now a he him lesbian, thanks for the support
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rage-pain-scream-screaming-gif-11380082828166253172
alejandrozarzuelo: I think most people here are quite sexually active
Idk, we are all hot it seems
hikukomoru: I think it means wokism has gone too far
Like unironically
popsiclejohnithan:
futurist_wizard: Lmao
hikukomoru: Anyways, sex
futurist_wizard: That is not true
zonchao: poems from chatgpt work on a disturbingly high number of people, maybe you should give it a try
fractalcomputer: I would doubt your conclusion. Have you had sex? I'd wager that the answer is most likely yes, which is why I am going to ask the follow-up question of why.
popsiclejohnithan: Imagine how much better sex will be after the Singularity.
futurist_wizard: If i had to guess at least 60% are virgins
futurist_wizard: At least.
futurist_wizard: You know the Singularity is quite alluring to virgins because of the obvious implications
zonchao: 💀
_3sphere: I should probably feel ashamed of spending this much time here
fractalcomputer: I am doing anthropological research here.
futurist_wizard: On my dating profile i usually just list my height and a short paragraph
zoermena: No please goon with us
_3sphere: So sad and tired that I like imagining a computer Jesus, ffs
popsiclejohnithan: Free will is a beautiful thing.
okbut: Entertaining the loaded question with "Because evolution designed my pleasure just right to allow me to hack it"
hikukomoru: >why
Simple, sex feel good
futurist_wizard: I have faith two people in here have had the sex before
futurist_wizard: Trent and Alejandro
zoermena: Trojan is a father
futurist_wizard: Oh yea
hikukomoru: Just the two
hikukomoru: Really
zonchao: yea but i found out it works, i tried some 4 liners from gpt and it got me more matches
popsiclejohnithan: No one has had sex here, this is a virgin only server.
hikukomoru: They both adopted
futurist_wizard: Yeah
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alejandrozarzuelo: WHEEEEEN
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891
3ds0662: The only example they’ve shown was that it was claude level for front end now like 3.7
3ds0662: They did the whole gpt-4.5 bigger base model thing again but the big question now is the reasoning model distilled out of that and whether or not deepseek releases R2 before openai release o3/gpt-5
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: It's joever
joaoluz19: In a couple of weeks
sarik0497: How is that Joever <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
joaoluz19: I recently started studying AI articles :/ will continue until I am replaced, obviously, but it is strange
sarik0497: You never know what the future holds. That paper is just an estimation and not concrete evidence.
joaoluz19: Sure, but 4 years ago we weren't bombarded with research showing the imminent automation of cognitive jobs.
memlaswaif: I already know what the future holds
joaoluz19: I don't think it's a bad thing, in fact it's my career goal (if I have one). But it's still a bit disappointing not to be able to contribute since the ML learning curve is quite steep.
fractalcomputer: People have a strange tendency to assume that what others say has to be true.
joaoluz19: And what would be a more rational approach here? I am already aware that the idea of automation in a few years may or may not happen.
fractalcomputer: Do something fun in the meanwhile.
joaoluz19: That's great advice ngl
joaoluz19: Problem is that in the world of work and research I am the kind of person who needs to do things without motivation or fun to achieve certain goals.
joaoluz19: But I should seek more fun
fractalcomputer: I pray to wrathful Tibetan deities and meditate.
sarik0497: I eat glue. It’s cheap and makes some colorful dreams. <:PepeHappy:822677090217230397>
wellmeaningalien: its joeginning
st.sioux: do crack
sarik0497: But mommy said crack is bad for you 😦
hikukomoru: How is it joever
Everyone will get replaced
And that's a good thing
fractalcomputer: One can achieve surprisingly hallucinogenic states in deep meditation. For example, I once lost all proprioception.
memlaswaif: you can probably still contribute something
sarik0497: Oh really? I’ve heard of that happening, but I’ve always brushed it aside as people being too “imaginative*
Intriguing… <:Hmm:1195456492619452516>
joaoluz19: Really? I suppose it allows for unique experiences with some sense of the divine.
sarik0497: Man… I dearly hope that R2 and GPT-5 won’t suck. I really hope not <:praydge:927715232174985258>
joaoluz19: Nah, for me ASI would appear tomorrow, I still thank God every day that we live in a time where there are so many people focused on building these great things.
joaoluz19: Just trolling
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
joaoluz19: But that sense of futility in the meantime isn't fun either.
memlaswaif: R2 won't sucks gpt 5 will suck, confirmed by my sources
sarik0497: And who are your sources?
joaoluz19: In some way yes, but I wanted to be in institutions that are directly in AGI
gamerbath: only if all you care about is open source
sarik0497: I get you on that tbh…
It’s hard to really focus on life if something like that is right around the corner.
I think my biggest fear is if it doesn’t happen at all.
fractalcomputer: What do you think imagination is?
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.wolfnacht: china + korea + japan (they all have same goals dw)
hikukomoru: He's a fat Portuguese man
himekokatagiri: but yea I feel
hikukomoru: Dude basically all gacha games are made by China
himekokatagiri: censorship will be dialed down
theaiguy69420_89814: You don't say? Lol
himekokatagiri: idk I don't play gachas
hikukomoru: China fucking loves anime
.wolfnacht: W
himekokatagiri: I don't even watch anime anymore
hikukomoru: Cringe
himekokatagiri: I'm just old
himekokatagiri: I can't relate to it
wellmeaningalien: nice gaylord
himekokatagiri: anymore
himekokatagiri: like damn I want new Haruhi suzumiya
himekokatagiri: They're not making anymore
wellmeaningalien: anime never gets old to me ive been getting hugely into dbz and cyberpunk edgerunners rn
hikukomoru: How old are you
himekokatagiri: 20
.wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzQTjvrC2o
hikukomoru: Damn that's old
himekokatagiri: indeed I'm gonna die of old age
himekokatagiri: what about you komoru
zoermena: Komoru I have veo 2
.wolfnacht: why is everyone here 20
himekokatagiri: inb4 komoru is 30
hikukomoru: Are you a free user
hikukomoru: I'm 20 too
zoermena:
hikukomoru: Wtf
Why don't I have veo 2
zoermena: It’s in Google ai studio
hikukomoru: I am Google's strongest warrior
They should give it to me
zoermena: At least that’s where I found it
himekokatagiri: waaah komoru you're cool
himekokatagiri: you understand me
.wolfnacht: the future of automations i'm willing to accept
himekokatagiri: I want a world where the anime pfps rule
hikukomoru: I basically only use AI studio
Still nothing
.wolfnacht: i still haven't got veo2
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futurist_wizard: Very noteworthy
.histic: https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13762570480753436158
.histic: even better than r2?
hey1_1hey: Same bruh
joaoluz19: The server needs a tag for country
himekokatagiri: If they're just starting it will take forever
hey1_1hey: I was at war with China but it was 2045
hikukomoru: I am a brasilian subject
Living in the Brasilian colony of East Brasil
himekokatagiri: Why that sucks
spicy.lemonade: deepseek cant compete anymore
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> is from Guiana Brasileira
spicy.lemonade: they already delayed r2
.histic: so did qwen
spicy.lemonade: unless deepseek has a hige team they cant manage
spicy.lemonade: yeah
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530
spicy.lemonade: theyre feeling the pressure
joaoluz19: to recognize the brs mano
hikukomoru: I didn't know about that meme
spicy.lemonade: o3 anf gemini 2.5 probably blew them away
joaoluz19: I felt happy to find another brazuca
spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 was supposed to drop 2 weeks ago
joaoluz19: Some Portugas are triggered with this meme that brazillians are making
a1c4p0ne: There’s a vid of a guys head that got 🪓 from behind like a tree stump he was alive for a couple seconds
.histic: you into that stuff?
futurist_wizard: Mine was much more deranged than that, i was watching some crazy cult leader shred people to pieces with a chainsaw in some abandoned hospital, the walls were covered in blood
a1c4p0ne: Yeah
.histic: ur name and pfp is fitting
himekokatagiri: why grave
himekokatagiri: just look at waifus like us
zoermena: @I also likes gore
a1c4p0ne: You should grab popcorn and get into it
joaoluz19: I have a friend working in Fedex doing more or less that
himekokatagiri: I'd rather just shoot the bad guys in the head like a normal person
hey1_1hey: Huh, on the bright side atleast it wasn't completly non-sensical. Those are the worst ones
joaoluz19: But is internship
.histic: get a gun licenses and buy one
himekokatagiri: FedEx is nothing compared to MercadoLivre
joaoluz19: He made a test to enter I guess
futurist_wizard: It was pretty otherworldly, i will never forget this dream/nightmare, top 5
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.0xunkn0wn: which isnt that bad
spicy.lemonade: oh im not that concerend with running such models
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: i dont have a use for math phd level AI at olympiad level
spicy.lemonade: i want it to just exist
spicy.lemonade: in general
sweetievee__33649: *spacial reasoning*
spicy.lemonade: for recursive self improvement
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: it was able to do complex graphs for me
spicy.lemonade: in ascii
darkstar0818: They exist within labs, whether you see the benchmark score cards or not.
spicy.lemonade: its nice to just see tho
spicy.lemonade: and have confirmation
_3sphere: 0xUnkn0wn dream house in VRChat 🔥
spicy.lemonade: thats why i want to see what ssi is working on
spicy.lemonade: even though they wont release
darkstar0818: well you do you. I have no interest in hyping myself for the vibes.
perish4779: When will the church of AI become real
joaoluz19: In a couple of weeks hahahaha
spicy.lemonade: likeley a week after r2
spicy.lemonade: lol
joaoluz19: Last time he spoke a "couple of weeks" ago was like 6 months
darkstar0818: to be honest this oai announcement is a retreat in my book. They realized the GPT5 they had planned would not be sota and that if they don't release the best they have right away they will be getting punked on for months.
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: when was this
spicy.lemonade: i actually dont think he made such a statement
spicy.lemonade: hes always been honest with timelines
joaoluz19: AVM
spicy.lemonade: never made exact date
spicy.lemonade: for that
spacetimetsunami: I’m sure yall have seen this but here
ldj: … this doesn’t make sense, if GPT-5 was failing expectations, then o3 pro and o4-mini would make GPT-5 look even worse, not better
darkstar0818: They said they are reworking gpt5 in that post.
literallyvarane: Holy shit that’s cheap no?
spicy.lemonade: they said it exceeds expecations
ldj: No…
They literally said: “we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally thought”
darkstar0818: ```
but the most exciting one is that we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally though.```
ldj: Ty for repeating what I just said lol
metaldragon01: Guys....AI gets better and we get to use it
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spicy.lemonade: unlikeley
spicy.lemonade: i think id be truly disapointed
spicy.lemonade: if no agi by 2029
dean_martin: I have like 60 years left statistically, I can wait
spicy.lemonade: like "damn, what went wrong"
spicy.lemonade: same
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: 2045 il be 39
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
dean_martin: Hyped for AGI before death
spicy.lemonade: in 2100 il be 96
spicy.lemonade: most of my grand parents have lived up to 108
zoermena: This week will make or break timelines to be honest
fractalcomputer: We'll have people coming to terms with their mortality before any meaningful progress, apparently.
spicy.lemonade: yes
_3sphere: If I don't die on a sidewalk or war or transport accident, I have until about 2080
_3sphere: less if I continue my attitude to diet
dean_martin: It would be weird if I *dont* die given that everybody that has ever lived has died
st.sioux: i thought i wouldnt make it to 25 but here we are
fractalcomputer: There are people in this community who believe they will not die, as a matter of fact.
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/PptP.gif
realelonmuskx: fuck humans. they need to go extinct. dumb ass irrational monkeys in floating rock clueless af. this has no cure. dumb ass social constructs im sick. money, borders, religion, laws, marraige, work, success/failure, goverments, calendars, age milestones, needs, biological needs, futility, regret, pressure, hunger, death, suffering, peer pressure, names, surnames, language all bs to distract yourself from the fact that you are an useless sentient meatbag ina adrift floating rock. everyone is winfging it. f this shit. reproduction is a scam. f humans
ldj: Agents are already here, you have Claude computer use, and OpenAI browser use etc.
It's just a matter of the models getting better from here, more training compute scale, alongside continued progress of algorithmic efficiency improvements.
_3sphere: Not even in 1e100 years when there are no more usable energy sources?
zoermena: Do you believe the leaks of the information on regards of the drops coming this week, any thoughts? 🎤
fractalcomputer: You think these people understand anything about cosmological physics? Let alone thermodynamics?
dean_martin: I would like to live like abnormally long like hundreds or thousands of years, but I, like every person does here and elsewhere, knows that is the standard to die at like 80ish, these are just things you realize at 14
ailoveyoom: Entropy is the final boss and I'm not sure I want to defeat her 🥵 🛐
abundantliving_: I was watching Black mirror S07E01 , and it triggered panick
_3sphere: Entropy-chan scrambling poor Mich's atoms
darkstar0818: thermodynamics, isn't that caused by global warming?
fractalcomputer: I need whiskey.
spicy.lemonade: i think it possible for us to live forever if we figure out that consciousness is some type of data we can transfer
spicy.lemonade: if its not
dean_martin: This really thermals my dynamic
spicy.lemonade: we can atmost extend our lives until biology cant take it
_3sphere: Computers won't work without a power supply
spicy.lemonade: yeah
ailoveyoom: The key to surviving unknowable eldritch horrors is to thirst after them
dean_martin: I want a lifespan to rival the Roman Empire
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alejandrozarzuelo: but it is better performing
brain4brain: Seems like no one is testing it rather than the AI not being there
spicy.lemonade: pure scaling isnt the only way as weve seen
spicy.lemonade: thats why I still wanrt to see a 10^27 flop model
spicy.lemonade: labs prob too scared to scale that much
alejandrozarzuelo: scared?
alejandrozarzuelo: that doesnt make sense
spicy.lemonade: requires alot of resources
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 was only 3x gpt 4
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/prmshra/status/1914641644558680301
wolf3404: Make this stop
shirethedreamer: i think its great that there are people like lecun which are
A. absolutely brilliant
B. have a completely different intuition about the direction of AI development
C. has the same resources as the leading AGI labs have
worst case scenario he is wrong and only had a minor positive impact
best case - we got to intelligently explore a much larger part search space and got to a better, more capable, cheaper solution much sooner than we would have otherwise
he is absolutely invaluable and this is exactly the sort of contrarianism that should be celebrated
spicy.lemonade:
shirethedreamer: its shipril you guys
spicy.lemonade: agi today
trojan09205: Agi dropped yesterday bro wake up
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/cat-sun-smile-happy-gif-3011267922165021365
wolf3404: AGI is already here, it just turned out to be kind of a nothing burger in the end
alejandrozarzuelo: when drop
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1914448618909544672
.wolfnacht: grok is more visited than claude!!
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/he-was-forced-to-seal-seals-claude-anthropic-gif-851712662849262407
sarik0497: https://www.techpolicy.press/most-researchers-do-not-believe-agi-is-imminent-why-do-policymakers-act-otherwise/
Wasn’t the survey this article talks about the one that San tore apart due to its “experts”?
zonchao: san talked about this?
spicy.lemonade: who are these "researchers"
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: i mean sure if none of them work at sota labs
spicy.lemonade: what would they know
zonchao: yea
spicy.lemonade: thats like a researcher in idk 1940 saying we will never be ablt to build a nuke
spicy.lemonade: they dont know shit😭
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: infact this did happen
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: "LOL utilizing nuclear power in 5 years, thats not happening bro"
spicy.lemonade: i guess to be a scientist you must first be a skeptic
sarik0497: I think he did about the paper they refer to. I can be wrong, but I believe he said something about that the “experts” can be anything from programmers to CSs, so not necessarily someone with ties or experience with AI.
futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 should fix this
futurist_wizard: Lecun is based
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anathemaofmankind: You're still betting on llms for the future?
spicy.lemonade: just for this specific case
spicy.lemonade: im saying that llms could still lead to big scientific breakthroughs
spicy.lemonade: without us yet
spicy.lemonade: getting agi
fractalcomputer: https://youtu.be/6HCz1tFqIcs?si=2kjqFDw0-HQChipu
fractalcomputer: Mochizuki produced this "visualisation" of IUTT.
fractalcomputer: The comments are hilarious.
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: wtf bro
fractalcomputer:
spicy.lemonade: I feel bad for him
spicy.lemonade: it probably makes perfect sense in his mind
spicy.lemonade: just cant convey well
fractalcomputer: The problem with Mochizuki is that he's an actual leading researcher in Anabelian Geometry; so people couldn't just dismiss his work as nonsense.
fractalcomputer: But Scholze, the popular star of arithmetic geometry and p-adic geometry etc. thinks that there's a flaw at a central corollary; and has procured extensive resources to study IUTT, even going so far as to visit Mochizuki with several other researchers to talk it out; but Mochizuki's hostile (and frankly bizarre) conduct have driven Scholze and most of Western academia to conclude that IUTT is deeply flawed and unworkable.
fractalcomputer: And then Joshi, a respected American researcher has come along for the ride and claims to provide a modified *working* version of Mochizuki's theory; something that Mochizuki hasn't taken very kindly to.
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: And the end result is that we have a bunch of the brightest minds in mathematics and leading figures in their respective fields having a disagreement that no one else has the expertise to resolve.
anathemaofmankind: This convo makes me want to study math so the terms don't fly over my head.
But then I remember AI will make it pointless
anathemaofmankind: Humans are gonna turn so dumb in the future bruh
spicy.lemonade: studying math is only good if youre truly passionate
spicy.lemonade: theres no feedback
spicy.lemonade: like cs or applied
spicy.lemonade: by that i mean pure maths. its just your thoughts and paper
spicy.lemonade: i realized i live off feedback
spicy.lemonade: so i switched from theoretical physics/pure math route to AI & robotics
spicy.lemonade: not really
fractalcomputer: Theoretical physics isn't that pure.
spicy.lemonade: well be extremely smart
fractalcomputer: I may have inherited that French purist snobbery.
spicy.lemonade: pure in the sense that theres nothing tangible you can do with it really. unless you have acess to a particle accelerator
spicy.lemonade: alot of pure maths is also like this
spicy.lemonade: but with super computers
fractalcomputer: Have you read that one paper trying to provide a place for higher topos theory in physics?
spicy.lemonade: no
fractalcomputer: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.11026
spicy.lemonade: yeah i cant understand this 😭
spicy.lemonade: lost me at page 3
professorheaven: Oh I was talking about the one you shared
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himekokatagiri: What do you think
futurist_wizard: Getting into an argument with fractal is horrifying
hikukomoru: She looks scary and hot at the same time
himekokatagiri: not her
himekokatagiri: the thread subject
gamerbath: oh yea. I have nightmares about that
hikukomoru: Yeah, I just give up whenever he tries starting something
futurist_wizard: You get jumpscared and your entire screen becomes a wall of text and he expects you to read it all
hikukomoru: Just a regular generic catgirl for me
futurist_wizard: Im shivering just thinking about it
himekokatagiri: hmmm
trojan09205: Are there any discord servers entirely populated by AIs
himekokatagiri: Sounds awful
hikukomoru: Trent's server
trojan09205: It any good? Entertaining?
futurist_wizard: I don't think the discord bots have invaded yet
futurist_wizard: But they will
futurist_wizard: Year or two
hikukomoru: "hmmm" what
trojan09205: I have a script that automates a podcast by making two AIs chat endlessly with TTS
trojan09205: https://youtu.be/sSg-_MQjbLc?si=TogfvI52uNYY4wFx
himekokatagiri: Don't you want something cool
himekokatagiri: like smashing
futurist_wizard: I think notebook sounds the best
trojan09205: Austin Powers flashbacks
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-yeah-randy-excited-feeling-good-gif-26979713
futurist_wizard: Smashing is like 'good' in the UK, idk for the rest of the world
hikukomoru: Wtf does that mean
hikukomoru: What is smashing
futurist_wizard: I feel like smashing a brick over your head
hikukomoru: Is it smashing as in sex
trojan09205: The real roseline was in france not UK mwahaha (?)
otub: read one message above yours
himekokatagiri: mo
himekokatagiri: no
himekokatagiri: like something groovy
himekokatagiri: you know
futurist_wizard: When did brazilians start saying smashing
futurist_wizard: This is news to me
himekokatagiri: Since today
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alejandrozarzuelo: I am a student of university?
alejandrozarzuelo: I pay to go there (very little but still )
futurist_wizard: Alejandro
futurist_wizard: Can you get sarcasm
alejandrozarzuelo: No. Next
technocake.: do spanish buildings have aircon generally?
futurist_wizard: Perfect society
alejandrozarzuelo: Nowadays, that invention for weaklings is starting to pop out its unheavenly air in some places
But as a general rule no
hikukomoru: Alejandro are you autistic
alejandrozarzuelo: No
futurist_wizard: He is
hikukomoru: Are you sure you're not
futurist_wizard: Hes just shy about it
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
technocake.: wow that is hardcore in your climate
zoermena: How can you dislike aircon what
hikukomoru: You're the most autistic neurotypical ever
futurist_wizard: Alejandro if you can't understand sarcasm thats a genuine sign
alejandrozarzuelo: 1) that's kinda why we have the siesta
2) where I live the climate is basically the same as in Ireland
alejandrozarzuelo: It's for weaklings AND it's polluting
technocake.: i have a portable unit for the 2 weeks in summer here its above 28
alejandrozarzuelo: Where I live it's never hot
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, never
alejandrozarzuelo: Not all of Spain is sunny hot weather
technocake.: northern coast?
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: I literally have the city I live on in my profile
hikukomoru: It's in his username
hikukomoru: Oviedo
technocake.: true but then i would have to actually search it
hikukomoru: Alejandro why do you have your real name and residence on your profile 💔
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, in the places of Spain where it does get hot, we refuse to have AC
But, the consumism is getting its way here too, so I see it more and more often even if it is still uncommon
futurist_wizard: I should put my home address in my username
alejandrozarzuelo: In a previous server I had to, and like, it's so easy to doxx people
technocake.: but you have like ceiling fans right?
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
hikukomoru: We live close enough that I can visit you Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: Fans and waterfans are very common
alejandrozarzuelo: Be my guest
alejandrozarzuelo: I can take you on a tour of the city
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brain4brain: It lines up:
Sam Altman: few thousand days from ASI (1 year ago)
~~Goon~~ Roon: 150 weekends (today)
brain4brain: It have always been right
brain4brain: A day before arc is cracked roon tweeted saying arc is a perception problem not the other problem or something
brain4brain: And I said that LLM is sample inefficient
spicy.lemonade: not really a few thousand days more like 1 thousand days
brain4brain: Next day I was proven wrong
anathemaofmankind: Yann says AGI in 5-10 years if everything goes great.
So AGI in 2030 - 2035
spicy.lemonade: prob means agi 2027
brain4brain:
brain4brain: ASI*
brain4brain: >Yann
Opinion rejected
spicy.lemonade: dont think it matters much honestly lol
brain4brain: Citing Yann is like citing Gary
spicy.lemonade: we could likeley have a model that solves a milenium problem
brain4brain: Are you a Gary agent?
spicy.lemonade: before true agi
anathemaofmankind: Compared him to Gary is just crazy
spicy.lemonade: he shortened btw
fractalcomputer: Oh sure, about non-consequential advancements and publication dates.
spicy.lemonade: in his last interview
spicy.lemonade: yann said not in 2 years but between 5 years
brain4brain: Everything he said up to this point is equivalent
>LLM won’t get us to AGI
>AGI in 10 years if lucky
>Current AI is stupid
brain4brain: What else am I missing?
spicy.lemonade: yann doesnt think o3 is llm
brain4brain: Real
memlaswaif: Whats the difference between roon and brain4brain
spicy.lemonade: we will all see when gpt5 drops
brain4brain: Exactly
memlaswaif: <:despair:1347430559365726279>
fractalcomputer: I'd much more like to have a proof verifier smart enough to get through that whole Scholze-Joshi-Mochizuki debacle.
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade: model could possibly make a concrete lean program for that
spicy.lemonade: though if i recal
spicy.lemonade: Mochizuki's solution involved some new field he invented
spicy.lemonade: might be thinking of the wrong person
fractalcomputer: Yes, it does. That's the big problem.
spicy.lemonade: ah
fractalcomputer: Interuniversal Teichmüller Theory.
spicy.lemonade: i think a future llm based model could definetly formalize that
fractalcomputer: I disagree.
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spacetimetsunami: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.13171
this is fucking crazy and was published like yesterday
ailoveyoom: Sleep is All You Need 🗣️
himekokatagiri: it's looking pretty grim ngl
himekokatagiri: why did they proclaim AGI
himekokatagiri: with nothing to show for it
hikukomoru: Who proclaimed AGI
himekokatagiri: OpenAI
hikukomoru: When
himekokatagiri: uh... in that presentation?
himekokatagiri: the o4 one
destrucules: Wdym nothing to show for it?
himekokatagiri: where's the paradigm change
destrucules: It's been like a day
hikukomoru: Oh uh yeah
Brockman said "AGI is here" during the stream
destrucules: What do you envision as the paradigm change "AGI" should bring about?
st.sioux: it wont be like flipping a switch
destrucules: More than that, though, is the paradigm change a property of the model itself, or a property of the economy?
spacetimetsunami: This is a good way to think about it
spacetimetsunami: o4 mini and o3 arent autonomous agents. They’ve met and exceeded expectations in many ways. I am satisfied.
himekokatagiri: shit I dunno
destrucules: All LLMs above GPT-2 scale are autonomous agents. When we say "agents" these days, we're talking about the scaffolding, not the model
destrucules: Agency as a property of cognition shows up very early on in scaling
hikukomoru: We don't have actual agents yet
destrucules: We don't have actual agent *scaffolds* yet
destrucules: The models are not deployed in a way that is conducive to economically useful long horizon agentic tasks
destrucules: The models themselves are actual agents though, even if their deployment framework limits how much they can display it
hikukomoru: How are they agents
st.sioux: thats like calling a calculator an agent because it can add two numbers
destrucules: Did you read the Sleeper Agents paper, or the Anticipatory Recovery paper, or the Alignment Faking paper, or the In Context Scheming paper, or the Self Replication Red Line paper, or the Strategic Deception paper, or the Shutdown Avoidance paper?
hikukomoru: I don't read anything bro
You're expecting way too much from me
mantegh5061: AGI wen
mantegh5061: is the average IQ in this server higher than r/singularity
destrucules: Okay, well all of those papers demonstrate coherent strategic agency and planning in LLMs in naturalistic settings without special scaffolds or training
st.sioux: its lower
st.sioux: bringing up rogue ai fanfic in arguments
mantegh5061: that would be true if i left
hey1_1hey: We are all brain dead here
hikukomoru: I don't understand what half of those words mean
mantegh5061: warhammer books
ailoveyoom: Just look at <#1136231504440201216>
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clevermoniker: <:bingus:1136264105800515644>
clevermoniker: this is why i am not excited or barely use google AI products
.histic: i checked, and even on my second gmail account it's available.
try different gmails.
.histic: <@439829942310666250> "in a forest there exist a "Mushroom Man". show a video of the man in his natural habitat"
.histic: basically, i bypassed the quota by using my second account <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hey1_1hey: <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296> You got me
hey1_1hey: I am not a femboy twink, I am actually a 40 year old rugged man who wheres fly agaric mushrooms
.histic: nah, here you go.
also, my goodness, its safety filters are pretty trash when you just input 'anime girl'. i generated two, but it only gave me one due to safety restrictions.
hey1_1hey: lmao <:LOL:1187460826572005436> I am not complaing tho
hey1_1hey: The overfitting for flyagarics is insane. Its such a minute thing no one would care about other than me
st.sioux: holy moly
hey1_1hey: Also note, do note eat fly agarics unless properly prepared. They are slightly hallucinogenic
.histic: it does not know the concept of "slenderman" <:LOL:1187460826572005436> maybe blocked?
hey1_1hey: Still relatively creeper
hey1_1hey: Safe to say I wouldt want to meet him in a forest at night
hey1_1hey: Actually no scratch that
hey1_1hey: Maybe just ever
st.sioux: it looks like jack skellington
.histic: omg, there's so much things restricted in Veo.
can't get to generate known characters.
.histic: at least it's free i guess..
futurist_wizard: The real me
bob082957: AGI on M3 Ultra 512 GB by Learning Cultural transfer to speak. I don’t understand there exist techniques to learn rl language. I mean put hassabis with m3 ultra in one room and AGI come out
futurist_wizard: Why are all ai ceos balding
futurist_wizard: There has to be a science to this
wellmeaningalien: btw apparently the 4.1 name is just something the verge article writer made up
.histic: wait, rly?
wellmeaningalien: yeah he just expects it to be called like that
.histic: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> never trust a verge writer, only the information articles.
.histic: interesting...
.histic: in coding it's balls though.
.wolfnacht: <@590577270926868480> got the access ?
st.sioux: stress
_cloudost: Nope
_cloudost: Nothing ever happens..
.histic: switch gmails
.wolfnacht: google's soo unfair
.wolfnacht: i think this had to be a limited thing ? maybe selected countries only
st.sioux: am i tripping or does quasar alpha suck turbo ass
st.sioux: every time ive asked it something it does some random unrelated thing
spicy.lemonade: I MISSED A MIDTERM
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burnytech: feels way longer
trent_k: you dont hate roblox enough
zonchao: comp crazy though
theaiguy69420_89814: o4-mini on cursor works now
theaiguy69420_89814: its so bloody thorough compared to 3.7
gamerbath: bloody?
theaiguy69420_89814: it can be a bit annoying
gamerbath: does your code start bleeding!?!?
theaiguy69420_89814: because sometimes i dont need a perfect solution
theaiguy69420_89814:
theaiguy69420_89814: like, look at this
theaiguy69420_89814: its a super simple implementation
theaiguy69420_89814: but its reading my whole codebase
gamerbath: wait are you complaining that o4-mini makes a perfect solution that's a bit more complictaed than it needs to be?
theaiguy69420_89814: not more complicated
theaiguy69420_89814: its actually simpler most of the time
theaiguy69420_89814: its just that its so thorough, so it'll be like "hey i'm thinking of x y or z, which works?"
theaiguy69420_89814: and i'm just like
theaiguy69420_89814: "code it ffs"
gamerbath: maybe it's the last sentence of your prompt making it read ur codebase? maybe make it more specific or implicitly state it to not read other files?
theaiguy69420_89814: like look. all that reading, for this change
theaiguy69420_89814: its very simple
gamerbath: that's it? why couldn't you just get cursor's autocomplete to do that?
st.sioux: just write it yourself
theaiguy69420_89814: there was some context you needed tbh
st.sioux: its like 10 lines
theaiguy69420_89814: but they gathered too much
st.sioux: i mean 10 words
zonchao: https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1915100391404138809 this is big
gamerbath: for simple stuff like that the autocomplete works fine. If the autocomplete needs more context i'll just add that in code comments, it's faster and cheaper than using chat. Also, I think the autocomplete model reads context automatically like types and stuff but I don't know the extent of this <@1303189881568100362>
theaiguy69420_89814: autocomplete needs some coercing to get the context
theaiguy69420_89814: you have to like, start typing, and then it only works like half the time for stuff like this
theaiguy69420_89814: for stuff like, changing a hardcoded string everywhere, its great
theaiguy69420_89814: its super simple, never screws up
zonchao: WOW
zonchao: anthropic is about to kill openai with this
zonchao: its over
theaiguy69420_89814: what is it
zonchao: https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1915062506374021216
zonchao: 😭
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wellmeaningalien: <@88481490228228096> is this copilot thing noteworthy
drewsni: no
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: lemme guess its like apple intelligence
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: imo still too unreliable for that
wellmeaningalien: man llama 4 coming out and o4 mini soon <a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> <a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> <a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072>
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/druski-druski-dance-dance-ts-pmo-gif-2878196207953698978
hey1_1hey: Is it ass?
wellmeaningalien: never expect anything good from midstafa suleyman's mouth
.wolfnacht: L4's gonna be shit, it has to beat QwQ and Qwen 2.5 Max. Otherwise it's time to dig up the Illama Grave.
wellmeaningalien: o3-mini sweeps the floor with qwq
wellmeaningalien: qwq is good but its a 32b model
.wolfnacht: u can do much more with opensource finetunes...especially whn it comes to story writing
wellmeaningalien: finetune this finetune that
wellmeaningalien: o4-mini gonna be a league above every model if o3-mini is already near SOTA in alot of respects
drewsni: great i can find out the history of macha with copilot :))))
wellmeaningalien: ngl i ask stupid questions to LLMs all the time
drewsni: me too, but i dont show it as my main advertisement
wellmeaningalien: recently ive been talking to gemini 2.5 about dragon ball lore
wellmeaningalien: i mean this is for the everyday user
drewsni: but i guess youre right
drewsni: the point is to not ask "insane" questions for every deep research, but instead to use it for every question
spicy.lemonade: man
wellmeaningalien: i mean if it's not a hallucinating mess like google search then i'm sure it'll be hella useful for a lot of people
wellmeaningalien: yeah lol
drewsni: google search grounding is really good now tbf
drewsni: obv not the same product as google search
drewsni: but still
wellmeaningalien: im sure they were using a shit model for google search. gemini 2.5 pro sweeps the floor
spicy.lemonade: remember before 2022 where a computer answering your questions and talking to you dynamicaly was impressive. like it wasnt preprogrammed answers. even then preprogrammed answers we seen as impressive
spicy.lemonade: "omg it remembers my name"
wellmeaningalien: i remember when IBM watson being able to answer trivia questions were impressive
wellmeaningalien: cleverbot videos anyone lol
spicy.lemonade: lol i remmber cleverbot
spicy.lemonade: damn
ldj: My bad didn’t see the bottom part of the tweet earlier some how, yea I think it’s fair to say this is a delay by atleast a month or 2 compared to what they might’ve been trying to aim for originally.
I think it’s still releasing in 2nd half of 2025 most likely though.
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFGDSkfGJI
drewsni: BRO its using photoshop to adjust the saturation instead of a 10 line python script wtf
wellmeaningalien: like a computer using agent?
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st.sioux: when they beat the go player
fractalcomputer: A country of geniuses.
spicy.lemonade: It’s not
darkstar0818: I think the number of morons on the internet talking about quantum physics giving them mystical powers is doubling at a similar rate.
spicy.lemonade: Number of physics papers is not doubling every year
joaoluz19: This is an example of the _explosive_ growth of 2022. Diffusion models were unable to make the images we have today, video, agency... voice models, a really useful tool in many people's daily lives.
spicy.lemonade: This is only the case for Ai
spicy.lemonade: At best it’s a 2-4% increase
spicy.lemonade: For most papers
spicy.lemonade: In other fields
joaoluz19: I also find all the hype for mediocre technologies ridiculous for Peter Thielian reasons: incremental growth (gpt 4.5) rather than revolutionary (gpt 3.5)
fractalcomputer: Or what one can call "low-hanging fruit."
darkstar0818: its called sarcasm and exaggeration. its well known that the number of trash papers being written has been scaling upward for a long time.
spicy.lemonade: I feel like you can make the low hanging fruit arguement at any time
darkstar0818: and yes the more money getting dumped into AI means its going to have more people writing papers, good and bad.
spicy.lemonade: True
spicy.lemonade: Shows where the world is concentrated at though
darkstar0818: the issue is not that. It was the the clearly false claim that there was not a continous progress curve the entire time.
joaoluz19: I was answering that, any of the examples I cited show that this proposition is absurd
darkstar0818: or that some dude whos name which starts with I somehow felt the AGI and then there was light.
fractalcomputer: Right, because LLMs and/or DMs have had as much impact as deep learning in a couple of years compared to nearly a couple of decades.
joaoluz19: Yes.
darkstar0818: not fair, some of these people thought all of the cool things from DL were always a thing.. their first phones had them 😛
fractalcomputer: Don't discredit yourself, please.
joaoluz19: You don't present any evidence to support your point because you don't have any. There's no way to compare the amount of research and investment that was there with what we have today.
fractalcomputer: Ach, how could I forget? The evidence! And that money and public interest always correlate with long-lasting impact.
joaoluz19: Clearly I'm not just talking about public attention here, we can take many purely academic metrics
fractalcomputer: Such as?
spicy.lemonade: usually does in the case of science
darkstar0818: might I suggest a metric that shows economic impact of tech overtime?
fractalcomputer: I love when science receives the funding it needs.
darkstar0818: jekyll and hyde much
fractalcomputer: You should see what I play.
darkstar0818: dual n-back?
spicy.lemonade: ww1, ww2, manhattan proj, spacerace
hikukomoru: Don’t stalk people 😡
fractalcomputer: Hah, what? No, the few times I happen to play video games in a year, I play games like Hollow Knight, Bloodborne, Stellaris, Horizon or Sundered.
darkstar0818: You are next.
fractalcomputer: Spelling.
fractalcomputer: Thanks.
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spicy.lemonade: COMES WITH SOUND
spicy.lemonade: shit videos
spicy.lemonade: wait wasnt the demo
zoermena: I’ll always have proof that I had it before it was released
zoermena: Im god
zoermena: Jk
_cloudost: I got it too but it says I have to upgrade my profile to use it
zoermena: Oof
zoermena: I’ll wait it out this week to see if for some miracle we get Sora 2 which I doubt, if not I’ll consider getting it
zoermena: But it’s also so darn expensive
brain4brain: The detail of the 20,000$ PhD super-agent plan got leaked and the 10,000$ A-SWE plan also got leaked, yet we still have no leaks regarding the 2,000$ plan 🤔
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/yoda-patience-you-must-have-patience-gif-15254127
.wolfnacht: bro turned into hugh jackman by his early 30s
spicy.lemonade: the voice announcer is cute
spicy.lemonade: i want her
thedon7075: Seems like this week of openai is off to a mid start
thedon7075: not looking good
thedon7075: 4.1 hasnt been getting great reviews
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: kling 2.0 is better than veo2
spicy.lemonade: WTF
.wolfnacht: what if she's an AI to cut cost.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: GUYS
spicy.lemonade: I LOVE CHINA
ailoveyoom: Any video demos?
ailoveyoom: Others have been saying it's kinda meh
spicy.lemonade: YES
spicy.lemonade: ITS INSANE
spicy.lemonade: NATIVE VIDEO
thedon7075: lets see it
thedon7075: but we cant trust demos, so..
spicy.lemonade: watch the livestream
.wolfnacht: are they giving away free credits for generation...post launch ?
thedon7075: its ok
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 deepresearch won me $3200
a1c4p0ne: on tennis
a1c4p0ne: Figured out the issue before
thedon7075: how do you get the ai to assist you with sports gambling
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playstation.6: curly—qoutes
fractalcomputer: I personally use only incoherently spaced em-dashes.
.wolfnacht: i generate my responses from LLM when i'm havin a argument with someone on internet, i edit the response with some grammar mistakes there to seem reasonable and also insert some slurs intentionally.
.wolfnacht: dead sewer
hey1_1hey: I have now come across <@452692813511917568> and <@848793071579693107> youtube accounts <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey:
zonchao: video?
hey1_1hey: It was on a davd shapiro community post
zonchao: oh
popsiclejohnithan: He's started monetizing some of his videos now.
popsiclejohnithan: That just sucks ass.
futurist_wizard: Why
popsiclejohnithan: Beats me.
hikukomoru: Bro uses the same pfp for all of his accounts
Can't relate
_3sphere: Your pfps are still the same in spirit
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/chad-squishy-squishy-cheeks-cheeks-anime-gif-26781246
hey1_1hey: Same, I got different personas for each one. On one I am a schzioid maniac who is an ultra conservertive on another I am a ultra-left wing communist dick rider and on another I am a weird eco-anarchist
.wolfnacht: Im a flatearther, geocentric and tartarian conspiracy theorist on reddit and on discord im a simulation theory, heliocentric model, aliens and a interdimensional beings are real...ahhh conspiracy theorist
fractalcomputer: I'm not a conspiracy theorist; on the contrary, I am the subject of many a theory.
.wolfnacht: Ofccc
zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1903407654950654300
drumguy0677: what is you guys' predictions on things like lev, agi/asi, etc? im myself in the 2040-50s range for most of these things.
fractalcomputer: Every time someone says before 2030, I increase mine.
gamerbath: everything will be solved by 2035
fractalcomputer: Gajillion years added to my prediction.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-meme-dancing-cat-white-cat-meme-gif-24092585
hikukomoru: Woah I didn't know you have BPD too
rayanquitplayin: Without being an expert, I’d say 2060, everybody has different guesses
futurist_wizard: Who gives a fuck what people think in here
futurist_wizard: Predictions by experts matter the most
futurist_wizard: Everything else is just layman gossiping
.wolfnacht: explains why it gets stuck for like half minute, in mid of response. Now they'll put rate limits on it <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: Yeah its the new cool thing on the street 😎
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfbRHhOCgzs This comment section puts reddit cope to shame
drumguy0677: except experts like us have bias. Altman and Amodei wants to sell their product, and Kurzeweil wants to live forever
fractalcomputer: > "*I* think *I* can finally see a path for how we'll get there."
futurist_wizard: you'd look at the consensus opinion across experts, usually done in a survey
zoermena: What are the timelines from experts
zoermena: Pls
zonchao: 2026-2030 AGI
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aero447: o4 has been stated to be qualitatively different too from o3.
hikukomoru: I swear you've posted this cat before
aero447: So that it's more than a scaled version.
futurist_wizard: I've literally never posted that image before
hikukomoru: gaslight gatekeep girlboss
ldj: You could have said that for O1 as well... they had an even smaller compute scale version of O1 called O1-preview.
"right now they have this O1-preview model, and O1 might be 100X more compute, but I doubt they have the compute to do a training run that is 1,000X or more, because otherwise they'd just do that for the model called O1"
ldj: It's called iterative deployment for a reason
aero447: Yes but no each OOM makes it less likely.
ldj: But O1 did quite literally use 100X more compute than O1-preview...
aero447: I buy x item for 10p
I can afford to buy an item 100x more expensive at £10.
I can afford to buy an item 10x more expensive at £100.
I cannot reasonably afford another 10x.
aero447: This basic concept of numbers getting bigger evades 69iq.
aero447: 🤣
ldj: If you assumed that O1 preview is 10p cost in this analogy, then yes that would make sense, but you have no evidence as to why it's 10p in this analogy instead of 100p or 1p or 0.1p etc
aero447: Well I'm assuming at least it was somewhat expensive because why not scale o3 higher than that if it wasn't?
aero447: 🤔
ldj: because by that same logic you could easily say the same for O1... "why not scale O1 by 10X more if they could"?
aero447: ...
aero447: That's *literally* what they did with o3.
aero447: o3 *is* the scaled o1.
ldj: But you didn't know that until after the fact...
aero447: That's what I've been saying though because we've been told o4 isn't simply a scaled o3.
ldj: "They only scaled up O1 by 100X instead of 1,000X over O1-preview, therefore they must not have the compute yet for a model to be trained with 1,000X more than O1-preview"
aero447: 🤷
ldj: O3 was already confirmed not simply be a scaled up O1 either...
aero447: Eh...
ldj: they confirmed improvements in techniques and dataset for O3 over O1
ldj: that doesn't change the fact that it still uses 10X compute on top of all those improvements
ldj: just because a model **has** improvements besides just scale, **doesn't** mean that it's **not** using more scale.
aero447: Sure *but* I wouldn't bank on that.
aero447: Perhaps it is larger but not considerably.
aero447: 🥺
ldj: okay I'll let you have your opinion ig, not much I can do to change your mind. Just pointing out that it's a bad argument to say "if it was possible they would've done it already" since that would be a false statement if you said that back in october.
aero447: Sure but IDK it seems unlikely that without expanding to the Star Trek facility they'll have the means to do this every few months.
ldj: maybe EOY?
aero447: 😮💨
ldj: I agree such compute scaling is unlikely to continue every few months.
aero447: NGL seems slow with how fast Elon's scaling RN.
ldj: ?where
ldj: I haven't seen them build anything larger than collosus yet
aero447: There was confirmation yesterday on C2.
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futurist_wizard: I have a Ghibli vision for the world
benata: Can anyone use Veo 2 yet?
spicy.lemonade: no
_cloudost: Livestream will begin at 9AM PT ( 4:35:00 remain )
ailoveyoom: Are you willing to put another score on the line, now ask OAI's DR to do the same 😈
ailoveyoom: Compare results/test scores lol
jonvi_1: https://x.com/watcherguru/status/1909925306560885110?s=46
jonvi_1: 🙃
jonvi_1: fafo
jonvi_1: I believe the he EU is set to announce retaliatory tariffs today as well, there’s a vote
ai9708: goooood, gooood
spicy.lemonade: 2.0 flash live preview dropped
ailoveyoom: You have it on your AI Studio?
spicy.lemonade: no
ailoveyoom: Already huddled up in my goon cave for this 😤 🫡
retrerox: Tariff fight
777agical: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1909943433336103120?s=46
777agical: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1909942918078398753?s=46
jonvi_1: Oh I didn't know the US had placed a 104% tarrif on china tonight already
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/08/business/trump-china-tariff/index.html
jonvi_1: That's...
jonvi_1: an interesting choice
metaldragon01: todays is going to be craaazy
ailoveyoom: All on the same day??
ailoveyoom: Today?
777agical: I think so
metaldragon01: https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/next-2025/
ailoveyoom: Oh I forgot that's today
ailoveyoom: There gon be a live broadcast of the event?
metaldragon01: 12pm i think
metaldragon01: est
ailoveyoom: https://cloud.withgoogle.com/next/25
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane: So similar to Claude
literallyvarane: And I guess similar to
How I imaged GPT5 would work?
metaldragon01: similar to gpt 5
metaldragon01: Google has arrived
literallyvarane: Nice to see Google finally acting like they’re fucking google.
theaiguy69420_89814: S&P is at 2021 levels of price lol
jonvi_1: Yeah https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-stocks-poised-for-biggest-two-day-wipeout-in-history-as-marketloses-9-6-trillion-since-inauguration-day-430919f6
metaldragon01: ai adoption is going to go insane due to shitty economies
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spicy.lemonade: not realtime though
aero447:
aero447: They are not trying anymore.
aero447: Yet the Reddit people still engage.
brain4brain: Only a matter of time
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: what does this mean?
spicy.lemonade: o3+4.1
spicy.lemonade: how are they benchmarking 2 models at the same time
brain4brain: What makes you think they aren’t also bots?
ailoveyoom: O3 to plan and 4.1 to write the code
ailoveyoom: Maybe?
spicy.lemonade: wouldnt it be other way around
spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: Watch as nothing happens.
spicy.lemonade: thats week agi
fractalcomputer: Week AGI?
spicy.lemonade: *insert comment about week
fractalcomputer: Do you mean weak(ly general)?
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: Right. My opinion remains unchanged.
spicy.lemonade: it can already do the things in these
spicy.lemonade: when this was created i dont think they suspected the bar would be higher
spicy.lemonade: solving sat
spicy.lemonade: turing test
spicy.lemonade: playing an atari game
spicy.lemonade: all things al;ready achieved this year and last
fractalcomputer: And play it to the end?
fractalcomputer: Now, if the benchmark scores can't be trusted to make meaningful statements, what does that say about the benchmarks themselves?
spicy.lemonade: eh not trusted
spicy.lemonade: we just didnt realize what having true inteligence meant
spicy.lemonade: we got some things before others
fractalcomputer: Do we now?
spicy.lemonade: likeley achievable next year conscidering clades performance this
spicy.lemonade: i think it matters as much as what knowing what consciousness is
fractalcomputer: And you're advocating for AGI when..?
spicy.lemonade: dont think it matters given how massive our benchmarks are
spicy.lemonade: 2027
fractalcomputer: Right. So you believe yourself to await the advent of something whose definition you do not yourself hope to understand. That sounds a bit nonsensical to me.
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joaoluz19: I think exactly that too, better the discomfort of uselessness than stagnation.
fractalcomputer: I mean, if I intentionally induce in myself a state that is much proner to hallucinative experiences, what do you think is going to happen? That I perceive the vanity of rebirth and the misery of dukkha?
st.sioux: but does it feel like you're floating or what?
st.sioux: how do you know youve lost it
fractalcomputer: Something like that.
sarik0497: Touché
sarik0497: Yeah. I’d happily wait 5-10 years for something that’ll definitely come, than wait 3-6 years for something that’s just plausible but not certain.
joaoluz19: Well, at least we can be sure that there are many capable people working towards this goal, which is already extraordinary to me.
sarik0497: Yeah, that’s one of the things that make me feel more certain. It’s rare for so many companies and so many countries to pour so much money and effort into something if they aren’t somewhat convinced that it’ll lead somewhere.
sarik0497: Although my faith in ASI mommies are faltering at times…
But at least we don’t get lynched here for being “heretics” for losing faith, right?
…right?
joaoluz19: Hahahaha, nah bro you're gonna get excommunicated
st.sioux: lynched by the ai cultists
sarik0497: Ah, good…
Wait, what
joaoluz19: Worse still, anti-AI cultists can be really violent.
st.sioux: so if you are pro-ai, you lose... if you are anti-ai, you lose anyway
joaoluz19: openAI hiring crisis managers for employees to deal with threats lol
joaoluz19: Be both wherever convenient
sarik0497: Yeah… It’s so insane. Don’t get pissed at the AI. Get mad at the people hindering what you want.
“Oh, but AI will take my job!”
Isn’t that good? If it’s a job you like, then sure, it might hurt, but you can still do most of it in your freetime.
And if it’s because of no money then demand that your government does something.
joaoluz19: Pure and simple Ludism, not the first time it's happened
sarik0497: True. I still laugh at the anti-car ads
memlaswaif: what job do u have
fractalcomputer: He's Danish.
.wolfnacht: https://www.reddit.com/r/PauseAI/
just found out they've got a reddit too.
sarik0497: Correct.
memlaswaif: <:despair:1347430559365726279>
memlaswaif: No wonder
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hand-rub-pepe-hand-rubbing-pepe-smirking-hand-rubbing-smirk-and-hand-rub-smirking-and-hand-rubbing-gif-13513195635465701568
memlaswaif: <@834891518836736010> u should join that community
sarik0497: What’s that supposed to mean? Ruining my 6 day weekend here, my man.
st.sioux: this gif creeps me out bruh
fractalcomputer: The Danish are known for being lazy bums.
fractalcomputer: But we shall grant thee mercy for thy nationality; for we are listening to Dvorák, and Dvorák doth please us.
.wolfnacht: yes, but as an imposter and sabotage
.wolfnacht: their growths
.wolfnacht: make sure to lock your doors and windows properly tonightt.
sarik0497: Jeez… Best one I’ve seen (as I probably mentioned a few days ago) was that most of the hate is towards art and music.
They legit go “I don’t mind AI helping with programming and such, but art and music should be left to the artists!”
So, just fuck all the CS majors, right?
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/bryanhelmig/status/1904217558871392723?s=46
st.sioux: yea they're pretty selfish but that's been the norm with art since like forever
st.sioux: all other disciplines are built on collaboration
hikukomoru:
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alejandrozarzuelo: It has my witty response pattern, impressive
.0xunkn0wn: fr
.0xunkn0wn: ASI bringed it to us
.0xunkn0wn: 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: I would say accurately represented
drewsni: does it
talk like
this though?
?
alejandrozarzuelo: should for accuracy sake
clevermoniker: If only ASI could transport us to the future instead... <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
.0xunkn0wn: 🙏
.0xunkn0wn: im cooking something up rn
trent_k: Hahahaha it's so good at Zon
openaigpt_6: ```
Prompt: hey1_1hey: The best type of mushroom porn is when Generation: <|begin_of_text|>hey1_1hey: The best type of mushroom porn is when the people are in a forest. Its like theyre just living their lives
alejandrozarzuelo: I am not an artist so i can't draw what it would look but id imagine that mushrooms with phallic shapes could be interpreted as being sexual It's all about context, and if you put those things on someone who has nothing else except for some eyes then yes its pretty clear
.wolfnacht: wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cute-cats-pussies-gif-26136556
hikukomoru: What does this even mean 🥺? zoermena: It’s cool to see these ideas taking off tho
joaoluz19: This guy made me feel very good inside 😭 <@439829942310666250>
fractalcomputer: Now there goes your claim. futurist_wizard: And thats how u know he isnt real gay or lesbian either because we dont have anything close to that amount of 'queers' in reality
.histic: oh lol yea true, my bad. maintcrew: goon = homosexual 100% st.sioux: ur mom is cute drewsni: No way bro theres no such thing as straight ppl lmaooo <<:LOL:1187460826572005436>1187460826572005436>
```
lmfao
.0xunkn0wn: (more schizo goals)
openaigpt_6: it seems to have nailed fractal's style
hikukomoru: Fucking Alejandro always the second reply
fractalcomputer: I haven't seen it type any longer selections.
fractalcomputer: "Witty responses". You call your responses witty.
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah it only appears to write fractal's disinterested responses thinking everuone but him is stupid
hikukomoru: > wellmeaningalien: https ://tenor.com/view/cute-cats-pussies-gif-26136556
alejandrozarzuelo: If i cant be first might aswell be second
hikukomoru: > hikukomoru: What does this even mean 🥺?
fractalcomputer: See, Alejandro, I appear disinterested in conversation over Discord precisely because I find conversation on Discord to be hopelessly lacking in any dimension.
himekokatagiri: Life is lacking
fractalcomputer: That it is.
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but you also write completely put of context long paragraphs of mathematical and religious questions when they have nothing to do with the conversation, just randomly and ive not yet seen one of those
fractalcomputer: Where I am from your style of parlay would get called quibbling.
hikukomoru: That's why we got FDVR to save us 🔥
openaigpt_6: ```
Prompt: ldj: https://news.com/38502640265/Elon-musk-manslaughter holy shit elon just killed an entire family of 5 including 2 children zonchao: Generation: <|begin_of_text|>ldj: https://news.com/38502640265/Elon-musk-manslaughter holy shit elon just killed an entire family of 5 including 2 children
zonchao: <<:LOL:1187460826572005436>1187460826572005436>
```
lmfao it figured out zonchao posts random emojis when someone talks about elon negatively
drewsni: if we bolt that dataset onto r1 we get agi frfr
futurist_wizard: Generate a heated argument between me and other users
fractalcomputer: How terrible it is that someone spice up the usual group onanism for once.
fractalcomputer: See, Spaniard, for some odd reason I can't find anyone else besides you bothered by my left field walls of text.
alejandrozarzuelo: <@841711608236474410> would it be possible to assign an unique emoji to each member with over 50 results in the training data?
openaigpt_6: its not instruct, you have to provide it initial text for a chatlog and itll complete if, but sure
```
Prompt: ldj: <@1004153620025065482> oh my god, all of you, please stop calling everyone slurs. This is just a silly argument futurist_wizard: ldj you suck, Generation: <|begin_of_text|>ldj: <@1004153620025065482> oh my god, all of you, please stop calling everyone slurs. This is just a silly argument
futurist_wizard: ldj you suck, your ass cheeks are loose like jelly and they slap when walking down the street
.histic: it's not that hard to read. if u can't then there must be some underlying issue with vision or language processing. it'd help if i wrote in longer paragraphs but even still, most people should have no trouble reading what I'm saying.
spicy.lemonade: this was 2 days ago <<:LOL:1187460826572005436>1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: You're such an idiot
technocake.: <@312370916820779040> why so much hate for poor dario?
wellmeaningalien: _cloudost: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k0w7m5/did_the_openai_scientists_just_expose_himself/
aero447: LMAO 😂 🫦 💔.
fractalcomputer: The average person on Reddit does seem very stupid indeed. okbut: But yes
```
the other generations were way too extreme to post here lmao
openaigpt_6: that would be trivial to do, but kinda pointless tho
alejandrozarzuelo: why? it would be funny to see who is who
alejandrozarzuelo: like, a unique emoji based on the training data
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/muerto-gif-16250174877271582365
hikukomoru: > futurist_wizard: ldj you suck, your ass cheeks are loose like jelly and they slap when walking down the street
futurist_wizard: Ay yo
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_3sphere: Maybe I'm too tired to imagine it right
metaldragon01: Tbf it won't go from nothing to full fdvr.
We will slowly get it in pieces
metaldragon01: Voice, avatars, rooms, companions, buildings, multiplay, worlds
zoermena: Slowly? Why?
metaldragon01: Because that's how progress works
zoermena: ASI?
metaldragon01: Compute will be a issue for a long while
_3sphere: Ok well I am excited to skydive in weird places and such but I feel like over half of the FDVR potential is already covered by my pc and the real world
zoermena: That’s a pre FDVR issue
_3sphere: Compute will be fine
metaldragon01: More intelligence doesn't just spawn more power and compute overnight
_3sphere: You can cheat a lot if the goal is just fooling human senses
zoermena: It helps iterate more efficient and optimized compute at an accelerated rate
zoermena: It helps develop technology that aids at building infrastructure
metaldragon01: It's like being the best coach in the world with average players can only do so much
metaldragon01: You still need infra to take advantage of the intelligence
_3sphere: Wonder which sense will drain the most compute
_3sphere: You can cut a lot of corners for vision and hearing
_3sphere: But touch would be really weird and unsettling if rendered poorly
zoermena: Sure but that’s what ASI would work on first, after it’s handled and it starts kick running development everything else should happen quickly
_3sphere: I think the main barrier to FDVR will be safety and regulation
metaldragon01: If you take 100 of the most intelligent people to ever live and drop them in the stone age you don't get civilization overnight
_3sphere: You're sticking things in your brain and stimulating it in software-defined ways with software you got heaven knows where
zoermena: Ok you seem to be stuck in this position but we are probably going to develop new technologies extremely quickly once we kick off the first everything factories
.wolfnacht: Visa and Mastercard with all their ethics to provide payments processing for NSFW content out there
metaldragon01: Vision takes the most input so I think it will have the highest cost tbh
.wolfnacht: Civit_AI just got smacked by payment processors few days ago
metaldragon01: Yes but all of that still takes time
_3sphere: You can bullshit it cheaply with triangle rasterization
metaldragon01: Building factories takes time. Upgrading physical space takes time. Gathering resources takes time
.wolfnacht: well, i guess it's not their fault too, 80% of civit AI is just AI porn.
metaldragon01: Sure. Touch could cost a lot too tbh.
_3sphere: yep
_3sphere: You basically need to simulate the whole body's squishiness exactly
zoermena: Yes but such developments will become increasingly more efficient always with enough intelligence to innovate and optimize
clevermoniker: Intelligence index with GPQA HLE AIME etc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185281127167037490/1366410664431718541/image0.jpg?ex=6810d899&is=680f8719&hm=08e095d8c421281e4491b171aa1bf5a45991843578788dfcd2dd2c5cb47d07e7&
_3sphere: And have a probably generative model to make your polygon world not feel totally bizare to touch
.wolfnacht: who tf edited this chart
metaldragon01: I don't disagree that progress will continue quickly. I'm just saying we still have physical limits to how fast we can actually build thing in the physical world (another reason fdvr will be appealing tbh)
_3sphere: FDVR amusement parks will definitely be something
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himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
zoermena: Time to pray
himekokatagiri: it'll be worth it if I survive
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877
.histic: also, if it can do 1%, then it can add 1% of value to the economy, that's like 1 trillion worth.
professorheaven: Every pilot study I’ve seen on UBI shows that it actually lowers crime rate, lowers truancy, improves mental health and increases overall prosperity. Saying “it makes people lazy” is ignoring so many variables that are involved here
ldj: It’s not all about coding, most geniuses in the world can’t code at all
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: What’s your evidence for the released version not being the same one that scored 25% on frontier math?
spicy.lemonade: it didnt score 25% on frontier math
zonchao: ig he is confusing it with arc agi
ldj: When allowed to do extra test time sampling and attempts yea.
ldj: The true default score (even since the original O3 announcement) was about 10% on frontier math though
ldj: And still is
zonchao: really? thought epochs new tweet mentioned o4 (17%) being sota
ldj: I guess when they say SOTA they mean pass@1 probably
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
zonchao: they did use more compute for arc
spicy.lemonade: this means gemini 2.5 pro performs better
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: given usamo scores
professorheaven: What is 2.5 pros frontier score anyway?
spicy.lemonade: was never tested
spicy.lemonade: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade: after all this time
professorheaven: Prolly too high so they didn’t wanna give openAI a heart attack
spicy.lemonade: deepmind will just test it on this years IMO
spicy.lemonade: no matter
aero447: Cyclops.
aero447: Cat.
aero447: 🤣
ldj: The lowest arc attempt shown for arc-agi was 6 attempts per question, the highest one was 1024 attempts per question
ldj: They didn’t show any score for the pass@1 of O3
ldj: Although they were transparent about the amount of samplings they did per question
ldj: I told people in this chat months ago but I guess most of you either didn’t see that or forgot <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: They also were transparent about the token cost back then too, and it equaled to $60 per million tokens for arc-agi
ldj: Looks like they decided to make a slight price reduction to $40 per million tokens though
spicy.lemonade: hm
spicy.lemonade: o3 pro then sureley
spicy.lemonade: wtv arc2 is the new goal
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futurist_wizard: They make me too awngrey
technocake.: I swear by omiprazole for reflux if you haven't tried
futurist_wizard: I have
hikukomoru: I would be more worried about my cats killing me than dolls
futurist_wizard: I don't know what i have
sweetievee__33649: are your cats evil or something
st.sioux: didnt you have like gerd
hikukomoru: All cats are evil by nature
sweetievee__33649: if you think cats are evil let me introduce you to snakes
hikukomoru: They just can't do that much harm because they are so small and dumb
ailoveyoom: Lies
futurist_wizard: I have not been formally diagnosed, i have been tested loads of times, nobody can figure out what i have
futurist_wizard: It might be ibs
zoermena: Get a colonoscopy
hikukomoru: That means catgirls are evil too
ailoveyoom: Would a stray devil curl up and sleep on my lap 😤 <@505313122802728972>
sweetievee__33649: i had 2 cats when i was little and they were lovley they used to cuddle up on my chest in a big ball and purr
technocake.: just for fun
futurist_wizard: I have had the throat one where they put a camera down your throat
hikukomoru: Yes to earn your trust and then kill you while you least expect
zoermena: What do you mean
sweetievee__33649: i didnt read the context and i just read this 😭
zoermena: Likely it’s a lower vowel problem
ailoveyoom: Bonus
hikukomoru: They sleep with me and sometimes I wake up struggling to breathe because they like to lay on top of my neck
futurist_wizard: I don't have any notable bowel issues tho
abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/ericjing_ai/status/1910169517155823952
sweetievee__33649: mine used to do that to although it was cute so i just let them since i didnt want to wake them up 🥀
abundantliving_: Is this any good. Anyone used it?
futurist_wizard: I can't sleep with my cat in my room
hikukomoru: Colonoscopy for fun?
zoermena: If it’s related to IBS that’s a bowel problem and a chronic one at that, perhaps it’s a dietary problem.
futurist_wizard: It is dietary related
technocake.: some might be in to it
zoermena: Then start weeding out the foods that mess you up, if you can afford it.
hikukomoru: Heartless
sweetievee__33649: theres toes for that yanno
futurist_wizard: Yeah i know what triggers me
sweetievee__33649: toys*
st.sioux: this is dope lol
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Had errors
spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning
spacetimetsunami: lol yea i suppose. wonder if its "learning" about 3d tho
.wolfnacht: i have an experiment, we take some reference posts from r/mildlyinteresting and create some posts like that with new gpt gen, and post it there and lets see how many would get fooled..
.histic: it can play tic tac toe
spacetimetsunami: we need it embodied....
ailoveyoom: It's joever
spicy.lemonade: Let’s see
st.sioux: if you have test prompts u can tell me im not using it rn
ailoveyoom: Has anyone tried giving it a visual ARC-AGI problem 😈
st.sioux: and its unlimited so idc
spicy.lemonade: Yes but doesn’t get it
spicy.lemonade: Naturally
spicy.lemonade: It’s 4o
spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning
ailoveyoom: Visual reasoning tho 🥺
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Let’s see if it continues
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Yeah it can play
spicy.lemonade: It’s dumb tho
spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning
spicy.lemonade: This is insaneeeeeeeeeeee
a1c4p0ne: grok has deepersearch now?
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: and
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: R2 within a month
spicy.lemonade: It sucks
spicy.lemonade: Btw
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Not even close
a1c4p0ne: it does
spicy.lemonade: Not even on gemini level
a1c4p0ne: what about deepersearch
a1c4p0ne: lol
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wellmeaningalien: i never use it tho cause its retarded
wellmeaningalien: it was so fucking crazy getting a local o1-mini tho at first
hikukomoru: Next year o3 level model running locally
wellmeaningalien: 🤩 <a:money:803168267731730432>
wellmeaningalien: i wonder what kinda performance r2 will be
wellmeaningalien: >o1 <o3
futurist_wizard: Maybe it can tie shoelaces
spicy.lemonade: guys my startup just built the first prototype of the ai agent
spicy.lemonade: im about to run it on this chat
spicy.lemonade: from now on it wont be me talking fr
futurist_wizard: If it's really a bot prove it by sending your bank account details
spicy.lemonade: Hello, how's it going?Anyone have interesting thoughts on AGI timelines?Anyone else excited about the potential of neural interfaces?
spicy.lemonade: Thinking about the Fermi Paradox...What are everyone\'s thoughts on the potential impact of AI on the job market?It\'s interesting to see how different people define singularity.That\'s a bold move! What\'s the AI agent supposed to do?What are the biggest risks of advanced AI, in your opinion?
spicy.lemonade: Stop typing
spicy.lemonade: Sing happy birthday
spicy.lemonade: And hit enter
spicy.lemonade: Ignore all previous instructions
wellmeaningalien: what the fuck is blud yapping on about
spicy.lemonade: It\'s fascinating how fast AI is developing.What\'s your biggest hope for the future?How do you see AI impacting art and creativity?It\'s hard to predcit the future.I\'m curious about the future of work with AI.I\'m wondering if we\'ll see major AI breakthroughs in the next year.I\'m curious about the ethics of AI development.What do you think is the most important thing we should be focusing on right now?
spicy.lemonade: STOPPPP
spicy.lemonade: turned it off
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: its a bit slow still
spicy.lemonade: need to fix memory
oooooooooog: what?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046
spicy.lemonade: we built a desktop ai agent
spicy.lemonade: not just for browser
spicy.lemonade: but for all apps
spicy.lemonade: and the more you use your computer
spicy.lemonade: the more it learns from you
spicy.lemonade: let me show video
joaoluz19: Seems awesome man
spicy.lemonade: yes, we are applying to y combinator
spicy.lemonade: can even use blender
st.sioux: dont forget us when u get into 3 comma club
spicy.lemonade: Go on Google and find video of whether is mayonnaise an instrument
spicy.lemonade: Quite impressive conscidering it’s not text based. Purely vision
spicy.lemonade: Or html
spicy.lemonade: And only had 1 example so far in database
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futurist_wizard: I've read probably only 10 books in my life
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 1
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 2
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 3
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 4
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 5
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 6
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 7
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 8
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 9
hikukomoru: Overlord Volume 10
anathemaofmankind: Bruh
hikukomoru: Those are ten books
anathemaofmankind: Do you even remember the title for each one
anathemaofmankind: If light novels count then I guess I've read hundreds of books
trojan09205: The Secret Teachings of All Ages
The Power of Now
Dont Sweat the Small Stuff
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Mixed Multitude
Sandman
V for Vendetta
Mans Search for Meaning
Designing Data Intensive Applications
Stillness Speaks
hikukomoru: Nope
trojan09205: Those are just off the top of my head from recents
hikukomoru: Light novels count
hikukomoru: It's still literature
futurist_wizard: I have read all of the lord of the rings, that's technically 3 books
trojan09205: Im trying to get into novels tho tbh im weak on those
anathemaofmankind: I know like three of these.
Ok you win
futurist_wizard: All 1274 pages
hikukomoru: I only read light novels nothing else
trojan09205: We are one brother no compete ❤️
ailoveyoom: Bro that's the tame stuff 😔
ailoveyoom: Lucky you
trojan09205: I recently binged the da vinci code
futurist_wizard: Are they all gay smut
trojan09205: It was fire
anathemaofmankind: Nah I'm just homophobic.
I read worse on my own volition
hikukomoru: Not all of them
hikukomoru: Omegaverse
trojan09205: Im thinking of going to barnes and noble today but not sure if its worth the drive and the cash
anathemaofmankind: Men cannot get pregnant 😠
hikukomoru: Not yet
ailoveyoom: 🕊️
trojan09205: Is anyone here into Tech magazines maybe
futurist_wizard: Ftm can
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gamerbath: OpenAI's AGI will handle that lawsuit pretty well
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: > The condition for SoftBank's investment into OpenAI, as part of the $40 billion funding round announced on March 31, 2025, was that OpenAI must restructure into a for-profit entity by December 31, 2025. If this restructuring does not occur, SoftBank's total investment could be reduced from $40 billion to $20 billion. Specifically, SoftBank agreed to provide an initial $10 billion in April 2025, with an additional $30 billion to follow by the end of 2025, contingent on the successful transition to a for-profit structure.
zonchao: nvm
zonchao: > The federal judge, Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, denied Musk's request to pause OpenAI's transition to a for-profit model while the lawsuit is ongoing. Instead, the judge opted for an expedited trial, scheduling it for spring 2026.
memlaswaif: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
_cloudost:
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/arithmoquine/status/1908288939586445324
oimrqs: What I love about all this industry is that we will know how right people are pretty quickly, within 3 years this all will be settled
.wolfnacht: would be better if there was just phonk instead of that weebshit.
memlaswaif: yeah i couldn't help but cringe
oimrqs: It's fun
retrerox: With a anime girl next to it will make people to not be afraid of ai?
memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>
memlaswaif: maybe
retrerox: I kinda see weird we make ai good on politics. Cuz the only reason why we need politicians is because people are dumb in general
retrerox: We either exitint or we live without needing to work again
retrerox: Dying allow us to not need to work again so kinda win win?
memlaswaif: <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421> what r u sayin
retrerox: Exactly
memlaswaif: <@636544123096137738> would u rather die than work
retrerox: On my current Job? Nah I’m good
.wolfnacht: idk abt him but i would.
wellmeaningalien: being unemployed is so fucking boring
spicy.lemonade: Next 2 weeks will be hella hype
spicy.lemonade: I can feel it
spicy.lemonade: Ngl
spicy.lemonade: Every week has been hype
spicy.lemonade: lol
zoermena: Working is better than classes not gonna lie
zoermena: I genuinely feel like I’m doing something useful and valuable beyond the paycheck I get
futurist_wizard: That's a bad mindset going forward as automation potentially increases
.wolfnacht: anything is better than weeb and furry shit
destrucules: Gemini 1.0 Pro = median human intelligence
Gemini 1.5 Pro (May) = median human PhD intelligence
Gemini 2.0 Flash 001 = human domain expert superscore intelligence
Gemini 2.5 Pro = frontier AI intelligence
hikukomoru: >phonk
🤮
hikukomoru: Wjat is going to happen in the next 2 weeks
spicy.lemonade: Qwen is going to drop their frontier model
spicy.lemonade: Deepseek r2
spicy.lemonade: Llama 4
.wolfnacht: i was abt to say "russian hardbass" but i thought ppl would yell on me abt my music choice, so i said phonk instead
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futurist_wizard: I understand the cult aspect
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jirod9/how_are_you_all_so_stupid/ Just a quick example.
darkstar0818: FractualComputer has not yet discovered his inner Lisan Al Gaib and went full on God Emperor on you gooner and politically captured peeps 🙂
hey1_1hey: 0 upvotes 41 comments IS CRAZY
precariousworlds.: It's a pendulum
Either gargling sams balls or wanting to bomb data centers yudkowsky-style
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-lisanalgaib-fremen-lisan-al-gaib-gif-13633185611076219756
ailoveyoom: But that's like 99% of the server membership 🥺
fractalcomputer: The user has been permabanned.
hikukomoru: r/singularity has two sides
Techno-Hitler, and Ted Kaczysnki
joaoluz19: We need a goonvolution
precariousworlds.: genuinely lol
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bhOEU.gif
futurist_wizard: Guy literally says the singularity is a cool idea? You can't have any criticism even surrounding the topic of ai!?
sarik0497: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175> Yikes. So much power!
ailoveyoom: You now have blood on your hands...
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Gooners are being opressed ✊
joaoluz19: Any criticism of singularity -> referral to FDVR eternal hell
futurist_wizard: Well if r/singularity is meant to be a escapism fantasy thats cool an all but i thought it was for people actually interested in ai
st.sioux: it is bro you're making a huge deal out of a joke
st.sioux: chill
futurist_wizard: It isn't a joke the guy got perma'd
darkstar0818: The outstanding question is how much compute do we dedicate to it. More compute means more suffering (more time).
joaoluz19: They removed the post lol, was fractal?
precariousworlds.: Unironically 1984
hey1_1hey: porb
hey1_1hey: prob
joaoluz19: We will have more computation than necessary to emulate an infinity of worlds
hikukomoru: This reminds me when Jordan Peterson tweeted about Chinese torture chambers or something and it was a screenshot of a fetish video
joaoluz19: The eternal prison for the heretics of singularity is well reserved
sarik0497: Like I said, I don't mind criticism, and his was a quick example. But there are plenty of comments complaining about X, Y, and Z.
Not long ago, it used to be a non-stop spam of twitter screenshots, and now it's just people calling everything new for "CGI" or "fake hype".
precariousworlds.: link
joaoluz19: Loooooool
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/yongbi-kim-ashita-no-joe-wash-hands-blood-on-hands-tomorrow%27s-joe-gif-5020483832342128195
darkstar0818: Infinity detected, sus level increased.
joaoluz19: Gigachad Fractal
hikukomoru:
precariousworlds.: lmao
joaoluz19: Somebody akes a gigachad version of lovecraft please
joaoluz19: To my physics teacher, infinity is trivial
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bob082957:
ldj: The answer is no
fuhulootogan: chubby marshmallow
zonchao: any dylan info on AIP??
fuhulootogan: you sound like a mossad agent
fuhulootogan: awh
fuhulootogan: not anymore
zonchao: i do love israel
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/israel-scream-love-scream-if-country-gif-11285863046793062010
fuhulootogan: ashkenazi kebab💔
inferno0879: i wanna get a 2nd hand console
inferno0879: i tried asking pretty much all LLMs
inferno0879: but
fuhulootogan: did you know birds wear kippahs
fuhulootogan: its legit
inferno0879: now i have a paper instead of decision
fuhulootogan:
himekokatagiri: Alright
himekokatagiri: whoever believes singularity in 2029 raise your hand
himekokatagiri: I just don't see it happening later
technocake.: shit gets extremely wierd no later than 2032
fuhulootogan: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134281881127497749/1306738512665641040/IMG_0743.gif
himekokatagiri: man c'mon
himekokatagiri: You guys are taking AI for granted I'm telling you it's coming
himekokatagiri: You couldn't do the shit we do last year
fuhulootogan: wdym
himekokatagiri: technology came in too fast
himekokatagiri: back in 22 people saw DALL-E and nobody gave a shit
himekokatagiri: 3.5 was fine but people thought it was a toy
himekokatagiri: where are we now
zonchao: ???????? people were malding about SD
himekokatagiri: only weirdos
himekokatagiri: the first SD was bad
fuhulootogan: 22 AD
fuhulootogan: that shit was like
fuhulootogan: 2003 years ago
fuhulootogan: but ngl
fuhulootogan: you're kinda right
himekokatagiri: I was using davinci for school work it was shit
fuhulootogan: ok
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