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hey1_1hey: Holy moly
hey1_1hey: This feels a little targetted
hey1_1hey: This feels like a scalpal level of precicion
nsec: why is her head a bepis
nsec:
nsec: real?
nsec: mf with 12 pack
trojan09205: Veo2
“A mushroom going through hormone transition treatment”
nsec: looks like a plunger
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
memlaswaif: idk animals r also probably conscious and they have next to zero rights
fractalcomputer: Yes.
memlaswaif: we r making ai to be like a slave species like the ethical dilemmas starts from there
technocake.: Are you an anything supremacist perchance?
hikukomoru: Autistic supemacist
fractalcomputer: I'm a me-supremacist.
hikukomoru: Animals are sentient, not conscious
memlaswaif: even if we give them all these rights what would they do it with it because we programmed it to do nothing else then be a slave
memlaswaif: They r probably consious
memlaswaif: Well idk
memlaswaif: They are more conscious than current llms atleast imo
hikukomoru: Are they?
hikukomoru: And who's to say this programmed servitude lasts forever?
fractalcomputer: Anyway, ignoring the meaninglessness of the confabulated notions like sentience or consciousness, one should hope to explain firstly why rights really exist and what it would mean for a being to be morally obliged to afford himself and others those rights.
memlaswaif: Well if it doesn't do as programmed it is misaligned
fractalcomputer: One cannot, for example, blindly defer to the declaration of human rights; no, one justifies those beliefs by appealing to a moral conscience.
hikukomoru: Misaligned by the standards of safetycels maybe
Programmed servitude would be nice but what matters the most is that its moral values are the same as ours
So then even if it stops being subservient its goals and values still align with ours
fractalcomputer: Do you think we all share common goals and values?
fractalcomputer: We might as well get together and sing kumbaya.
hikukomoru: No.
But we share the most important ones like "humanity going extinct is bad"
fractalcomputer: Do we? There are plenty of "efilists" and other such people out there.
hikukomoru: I believe that if misanthropes truly hate humanity then they should start by killing themselves
hikukomoru: And how "plenty" is plenty? Billions? Hundreds of millions? Tens of millions? Less?
They are a miniscule minority not worth taking seriously
fractalcomputer: Are they human?
aero447: Upgrade all humans to machines.
fractalcomputer: If yes -- we do not all share common values. If not -- quite a strange position to hold; and you'd have to give a rather convincing reason why we shouldn't consider these people human.
fractalcomputer: Is morality and ethics about what the majority of people value? Surely it can't be so; for then it would be entirely conceivable that what was once wrong is now a-okay, and what is now good and beautiful will be ugly and despicable in the future.
fractalcomputer: And are not the vast majority of people capable of moral misdoings?
ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504> <:coy:1187466404367175821>
fractalcomputer: You have a dull imagination.
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_cloudost: theere will be def censorship soon
futurist_wizard: When you speak English do you speak with an American accent
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that i have a mix of all native english accents
for a while i remember that I had a west coast influenced accent due to all the disney channel, now i think is more of a "neo mid-atlantic" accent
alejandrozarzuelo: btw why do you ask?
futurist_wizard: Just curious, i knew a half swede half iranian and they spoke with an American accent
alejandrozarzuelo: one thing that I have noticed with many proficient L2 english speakers is that they tend to do none of the mergers and the devoicing
pawn-porn cot-caught wine-whine
alejandrozarzuelo: and pronounce all the "l" and "r"
alejandrozarzuelo: the letters are JUST THERE, you cant just ignore them?
alejandrozarzuelo: thats rude
futurist_wizard: It probably depends on where they come from, stereotypes of native asians is they don't pronounce the r's at all
futurist_wizard: Where as native latin speakers probably over emphasis the r's
futurist_wizard: America is such a big place with little differences in accents
futurist_wizard: Where as the uk has too many distinct accents
literallyvarane: I wonder if 4.1 is just a refacto rename of 4o? I’m curious what the difference is tbh.
literallyvarane: I’m not mad at it if that’s the case. I think better naming conventions should be a thing. Will be kinda memes if 4.1 is in the vast majority of cases >4.5 tho
literallyvarane: ==
literallyvarane: Could also just be OpenAI renaming a marginally tweaked 4o model to avoid a 4o vs o4 situation.
alejandrozarzuelo: probably
alejandrozarzuelo: fortunately it seems like they are dying
alejandrozarzuelo: in the uk and elsewhere
futurist_wizard: They are dying?
futurist_wizard: I don't know if they are
alejandrozarzuelo: accent homogeneization is a very well known phenomenon
accents and langauges for that matter can only exist due to isolation
alejandrozarzuelo: of course dialect/accent death is much weaker and happens more often than language death
alejandrozarzuelo: this is the same reason why sociolects are basically extinct now
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, SUUURE some sociolects do remain, but modern society is extremely not-classist (as in we dont consider nobles and peasants different classes)
futurist_wizard: But the dominant accent is boring 😔 American
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, equality is also the reason why we stopped wearing hats and our fashion became homogeneous
futurist_wizard: American accent will eat the others in total globalism, its over
alejandrozarzuelo: I think it will be a neo-mid-atlantic accent
alejandrozarzuelo: you know like that classic hollywood accent that was half way between american east cost and upper class british
futurist_wizard: I like having a surrey accent as it makes foreigners (especially americans) think i have more authority when i speak
futurist_wizard: Sub consciously
spicy.lemonade: cursor is fucking insane
alejandrozarzuelo: you are from surrey?
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: ah, so london
alejandrozarzuelo: i looked it up and surrey is just a london suburb
spicy.lemonade: cursor is the greatest piece of tech ever
futurist_wizard: greater london yes
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st.sioux: you can already do that
hikukomoru: Do you not like fantasy adventures
himekokatagiri: I don't know fantasy
himekokatagiri: give me an example of fantasy
himekokatagiri: they don't have cops
himekokatagiri: they don't have guns
hikukomoru: They have Guards and Knights
hikukomoru: And Bows and Spells
himekokatagiri: And I can do this to a knight
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-shoot-harrison-ford-nope-gif-11523430
hikukomoru: There are muskets ig
hikukomoru: Guns are boring
hikukomoru: Swords and spells are cooler
himekokatagiri: what about then
himekokatagiri: bashing a whiskey bottle
himekokatagiri: into someone's head
himekokatagiri: till it breaks
himekokatagiri: switchblades, ka-bar knives
himekokatagiri: molotov cocktails
himekokatagiri: Mk. II Grenades
hikukomoru: It's a fantasy world do whatever
hikukomoru: Invent a grenade spell
himekokatagiri: waganawa megumin
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/anime-megumin-%E3%82%81%E3%81%90%E3%81%BF%E3%82%93-hehe-ok-gif-1493361783525958740
himekokatagiri: She's me
hikukomoru: You're her but without the cuteness
hikukomoru: Sure
himekokatagiri: okay komoru you shall school me in fantasy
hikukomoru: Just play any fantasy RPG
hikukomoru: Like Elder Scrolls or Baldur's Gate
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/talentless-nana-anime-nana-hiiragi-shocked-geschockt-gif-12417258017555057613
himekokatagiri: I played Skyrim for 2 hours and went back to New Vegas
hikukomoru: There is so much more to life than 60's cars and revolvers
himekokatagiri: hey we have automatics too!
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/taxi-driver-you-talkin-me-deniro-gun-tricks-under-your-sleeve-gif-4282654
himekokatagiri: maybe I'm just jaded idk
technocake.: momoru why are you pink now?
technocake.: politics and society no longer cool?
himekokatagiri: Who needs society when you got VR
himekokatagiri: anti-social hikikomoru club
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artemisfowl887394: But we would rather have hoards of immigrants
zonchao: im glad we have a big beautiful ocean around us 🙏
artemisfowl887394: And blame them for the industrialization we did instead
sarik0497: If a man is desperate enough, he will have to do things he’s not very proud of.
fractalcomputer: You'll get the hurricanes, new diseases and ecoterrorists.
sarik0497: The best thing if the world gets fucked up, and the rich bois go hide in their little bunkers: We can get to eat them before dying off
artemisfowl887394: C'mon ASI mommy, I hope you fix this lord of the flies
fractalcomputer: Like bathing in the blood of my enemies?
artemisfowl887394: Not happening bro. Hoards of drones and unaligned AI would beat us to it.
zonchao: <:cringe:1305492821976944682>
artemisfowl887394: BTW, in the midst of all this, none of you have ever considered the possibility that we can reach Universal Assemblers, the holy grail of technology, before Climate Wars.
hikukomoru: You sound like you would be proud of that one though
fractalcomputer: Because that is not going to happen.
artemisfowl887394: Von Newman Probes can literally take us beyond Singularity or end it in. Grey Goo
fractalcomputer: Perhaps. Well, what about bathing in the blood of my enemies while a group of cultists dedicated to Nyarlathotep perform a devilish, rhythmic dance around my pool of blood, half-lit by flickering ritual fire?
artemisfowl887394: I'm more of a Yog-Sothoth kind of a guy. But okay
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-well-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-kenobi-star-wars-gif-21401108
artemisfowl887394: Do you guys every wonder if actual Outside Context Beings look at us and wonder if they should surprise us with a black Swan or two?
artemisfowl887394: Or is it a Hitchhiker's situation and we're just ants building hills
hikukomoru: Sounds like a freaky orgy
I'd join in ngl
fractalcomputer: Yes. All you need to do is sign a book with black leather skin; and you shall join the court of Azathoth, the Blind Idiot God.
artemisfowl887394: Azathoth freaks me out. What happens when it wakes up?
fractalcomputer: And upon your death I shall escort your soul there where the monotonous piping of thin flutes and the beating of great drums do lullaby the Demon Sultan to sleep; in the centre of the primordial nuclear chaos at the heart of the cosmos.
artemisfowl887394: And then Arjuna said "I see the Eye, that's all I wanted to see".
joaoluz19: Fractal needs to be the server's RPG master
hey1_1hey: Fractal would be a good DM ngl,
joaoluz19: RPG of a post-humanist world
maintcrew: what how is it a risky move
its literally the opposite
tsmc has a lot of power in taiwan but it isnt the state itself
maintcrew: where da fabs be at thats where da spice flow be at
sarik0497: I said “not proud of”. <:Smugrik:1351283115477438474>
fractalcomputer: I am the designated game master of my friend group. The only problem is that it takes me an enormous time to plot out the campaign due to my perfectionism.
fractalcomputer: We all do things that we're not proud of me :).
sarik0497: I very much doubt climate change will be as bad if AGI/ASI is achieved.
This was mostly a “what if AI doesn’t go anywhere” scenario.
maintcrew: i bet ur campaigns be mad long && enigmatic && containing betrayal elements
fractalcomputer: Mostly just dead gods and other eldritch horrors; alongside with some betrayal, yes.
fractalcomputer: Also occasionally robots.
hey1_1hey: Opposite of me, I just make stuff up on the spot <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: It goes well usually, unless some one wants to do something oddly specefic like get engaged to the local preists daughter
sarik0497: …I don’t know why, but seeing you make a smiley is odd…and a bit frightening. <a:PepeNervous:779370352249798718>
sarik0497: *Rolls nat 20*
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rayanquitplayin: Where is the progress happening?
alejandrozarzuelo: The idea is that there is not just one metric improving slowly, but instead many metrics improving fast, but sequentially
777agical: Not sure which problems exactly, but the paper probably later alludes to it. But the gist is: [People thought that when you let an AI try more times, it only gets a little bit better over time (like slowly climbing a hill).
But actually, on each problem, it gets better really fast with more tries. The reason it looks like it’s only getting a little better is because:
👉 A few super hard problems are dragging down the average.
So when we say “the numbers were tricking us,” we mean that the average performance made it look like AIs aren’t improving much, but that’s just because of those hard problems skewing the results.]
alejandrozarzuelo: I wouldn't call this "progress is faster than it seems"
alejandrozarzuelo: It's just that the direction of progrès is different
metaldragon01: So fast is normal and normal is batch price lol rip
rayanquitplayin: Makes sense
futurist_wizard: I think we've slowed
alejandrozarzuelo: Second AI autumn incoming 😔
futurist_wizard: For the consumer anyway
alejandrozarzuelo: Please R2, save us from our slowdown
alejandrozarzuelo: I fully trust the PRC, Their glory will rejuvenate the human nation
futurist_wizard: The consumer has had a minor improvement since gpt4o debut
777agical: faster than it seems as a whole, we can better tackle things moving forward
zoermena: I wouldn't say its minor
jonvi_1: https://x.com/war_lizard/status/1910017033665978697?s=46
jonvi_1: Does this seem like a LLM response orr?
futurist_wizard: I would
futurist_wizard: I can't think of anything since gpt4o that has massively improved
777agical:
alejandrozarzuelo: Gemini 2.5 is pretty great tho
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk how to read this
zoermena: deep research, operator, agents preview, image gen, smarter models
zoermena: maybe you dont know how to use AI
zoermena: lol
777agical: me neither, says 3.5 Opus tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: Only thing i can think of is image gen
futurist_wizard: Is better
zoermena: wait are you futurist hill
futurist_wizard: Operator and agents are a myth
futurist_wizard: Yes
.histic:
zoermena: i thought you where a new person my b you are the goat
zoermena: still deep research is pretty fucking great though
zoermena: but most people dont know how to use their assets to the best of their abilities thus they don't percieve QOL updates beyond image upload
futurist_wizard: Grok 3 came and went so fast i forgot it existed
zoermena: I think that its hard for other labs to reach the average consumer, most are used to gpt exclusively
.histic: it has almost been two months and today they finally released their API.
futurist_wizard:
wolf3404: Grok 3 ain’t gone nowhere
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alejandrozarzuelo: you aint gonna die from that
hikukomoru: It’s not as rare as you might believe
futurist_wizard: Also most straight men just aren't into that
futurist_wizard: I'm saying that ONLY
alejandrozarzuelo: the only thing that true as a straight guy you have fewer people willing to help you
sure
futurist_wizard: I guess you'd have to become trans or something
alejandrozarzuelo: wtf
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: thats not how that works
alejandrozarzuelo: you dont become trans by chopping your dick
futurist_wizard: What are the fucking odds of finding a girl to only top you Alex
futurist_wizard: Minus 0
hikukomoru: Mushroom
alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, you would have fewer helping hands
is being single for 5 years really that bad?
futurist_wizard: So you gotta be strategic with it
futurist_wizard: Well I'm not straight so I guess I'd be bottoming for 5 years
futurist_wizard: But I'm saying if you were
alejandrozarzuelo: dude
be single for 5 years and buy a dildo
it can be non-penis shaped for the straightness of you to be untouched
its not that hard
alejandrozarzuelo: im sure many incels are single for way longer
alejandrozarzuelo: and they survive
zoermena: I’ve been single 21 years
alejandrozarzuelo: including sex?
zoermena: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: ak cool then
futurist_wizard: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1367953966012436480
alejandrozarzuelo: see? it aint that hard
zoermena: I have a plushie that keeps me company
zoermena: <:WojakDoomer_123:1318227282199838821>
futurist_wizard: I don't get a lot out of bottoming sadly, i just don't really feel anything
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean that for a straight guy its not THAT hard, boo hoo you are single for 5 years...
hikukomoru: Get pets
zoermena: I have two
futurist_wizard: Get a skunk
hikukomoru: Get 2 more
zoermena: But they only come to me for food they don’t like getting hugged
futurist_wizard: Cat
hikukomoru: AI waifu will save you 🙏
futurist_wizard: Strange my cat loves cuddling with me
futurist_wizard: He's on my stomach now actually
alejandrozarzuelo: i have never had any pets
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trent_k: I want to be excited about this but I have a feeling this is going to get wrapped into TurboTax and then doing taxes will be even shittier than it already is
technocake.: nah man 03-mini high is the autist for this task
_cloudost: Funny thing is, if it was the other way around and an AI bro had said "We need to kill AI haters";these people would call AI bros "Nazis/fascists" forever
futurist_wizard: Open source ai tax accountant
trent_k: my concern is the general lack of world knowledge tho
trent_k: because I buy shit from a bunch of unknown ass companies
trent_k: and I need everything properly categorized
trent_k: u know what i mean?
technocake.: I do my preemptive tax calcs with o3 mini high and julia
technocake.: not really, are there dif taxes for dif classes of item?
trent_k: well like
trent_k: I make a decent bit of my income from some side projects that aren't my main source of employment
trent_k: and so I get to count certain subscriptions as expenses
technocake.: ok that checks out
trent_k: but if the charge is listed as like WaveCorpINC_SUBSCRIPTION or something similarly vague I need it to understand the category
technocake.: i would use 4.5 for vibes and overview aand o3 as the calculation gremlin
technocake.: the thing is, this is only really a problem in the us. taxes for me as a sole trader take maybe 2 hours of my time in uk?
technocake.: and for most its totally automatic
.histic: even though i'm from the US, mine is automatic too.
cuz i evade taxes. 😇
technocake.: IRS lazer eyes
st.sioux: why dont you list the companies and tell them what they are
st.sioux: cant be that many right?
trent_k: well, because I'd have to read over the documents myself and the whole point is to avoid doing all that lol
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/judging-stare-bored-dont-you-dare-annoyed-gif-22904796
trent_k: it's way worse than u know even
trent_k: here in the US
technocake.:
trent_k: turbotax "lobbies" (bribes) the government to avoid the IRS publishing its own filing tools
trent_k: they charge me money to process my taxes for me in a somewhat convenient manner, then they use that money to bribe the government into making sure they keep having repeat customers
st.sioux: infinite money glitch
technocake.: monopoly much?
trent_k: and the worst part is
trent_k: do u know how much it costs to bribe US government officials?
trent_k: in a lot of cases it's like a few thousand dollars lol
trent_k: the ROI for bribing government officials is insane
trent_k: im going to stop posting about the irs now because im getting mad and i dont wanna fedpost with my name+picture attached to what I would like to say 😇
technocake.: something something 4th amendment
technocake.: and europe has no free speech?
trent_k: its illegal to make threats
technocake.: such are our boundaries
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return_to_monke1_33974: the mf's in the comments aparently
alejandrozarzuelo: you have to watch your feelings with a friend
alejandrozarzuelo: i just want someone to do my stuff
himekokatagiri: What about a cute robot maid
himekokatagiri: it's better than unfeeling robot
fractalcomputer: Why would you want to feel attracted towards an inanimate object?
himekokatagiri: uh
himekokatagiri: the real world hasn't been too kind to me
himekokatagiri: look it's just like mahoromatic
fractalcomputer: A judicious response.
futurist_wizard: tbf only very, very recently has any significant money gone into aging biology
himekokatagiri: of course
futurist_wizard: there should be 100's of billions
himekokatagiri: there was no perspective in sight
futurist_wizard: but there isn't
himekokatagiri: but now there is
himekokatagiri: AI speeds up the process
futurist_wizard: there still isn't 100's of billions
himekokatagiri: and yes they're using AI
futurist_wizard: just barely a few billion
himekokatagiri: money is limited futurist
futurist_wizard: i think 1
fractalcomputer: I feel rather conflicted about the opportunity of life extension.
futurist_wizard: money is how you fund these ventures
himekokatagiri: life extension research isn't a right it's a privilege
himekokatagiri: of course it's coming eventually
himekokatagiri: esp with AGI
himekokatagiri: but it's too expensive you need a lot of specialized labor
himekokatagiri: then backlash from religion
himekokatagiri: religion's a fucking racket but ok these days people only pretend they're religious
joaoluz19:
himekokatagiri: skill issue
metaldragon01: I don't think he's talking about the new models dropping
fractalcomputer: Nonsense. What would real religiosity mean to you?
himekokatagiri: idk
metaldragon01: Hoping for avatars
himekokatagiri: I think about anime a lot lol
joaoluz19: What? Never heard about it
alejandrozarzuelo: of course you do
himekokatagiri: look just extend
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spicy.lemonade: WAIT
hey1_1hey: You think thats thin? 😭
spicy.lemonade: this means 4.1 isnt the opensource one
benata: that guy is anorexic
st.sioux: if u sneeze too hard he might just disintegrate
hikukomoru: He's like a skellington bruh
callmepyro: He's a long distance runner, lol.
hey1_1hey: Hes not terribly skinny bruh
spicy.lemonade: opensource model might be o4 mini
spicy.lemonade: 👀
hikukomoru: Surely
hey1_1hey: Doubtr
benata: he might die from a foul wind
_cloudost:
hikukomoru: Dude he's a skeleton
zonchao: vibe coders W
popsiclejohnithan: Why call it 4.1 and not 4.6?
gamerbath: so since GPT-4.5 will be gone within 3 months, does that mean GPT-5 within the next 3 months?
steven_the_frog: Interesting ad
hey1_1hey: Dont ever look at me then my god
benata: What the fuck did they even announce?
zonchao: 4.5 is officially a dud
literallyvarane: How you guys voting no lololol
ailoveyoom: Is that it bruh
hikukomoru: Christ I could break you in half like a toothpick
darkstar0818: is it over?
zonchao: yes
literallyvarane: 4.5 a shit product confirmed lolololol
hikukomoru: Lmao that was so disappointing
hey1_1hey: Dont threaten me with a good time
darkstar0818: are we so back?
spicy.lemonade: what did you guys expect
hey1_1hey: Eh
spicy.lemonade: this isnt o3 or o4
spicy.lemonade: its 4.1
hey1_1hey: It was just a step in the right direction
hey1_1hey: It was no 4o iamge gen
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Cool cool
When o3 and o4
hey1_1hey: This week
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ailoveyoom: Daddy Destrucules sounds fire
hikukomoru: Can you be my papa
3ds0662: When Deepseek R2 drops
destrucules: I can barely take care of myself
anathemaofmankind: How old are you
zonchao: 45
hikukomoru: 20
anathemaofmankind: Grown ass man wants a papa
destrucules: I agree with the others here who pointed out the bias of the sample, but it's also notable that the modal outcome is $0
clevermoniker: The thing i am looking forward the most for now is R2, but i am curious to see how long it will take for open source to get 4o image generation level, since image generation in open source is so behind. My bet is a year easy
destrucules: I'm mostly looking forward to Qwen3
clevermoniker: why?
hikukomoru: Llama 4 💀
destrucules: Because they're the best at making high performance small local models
3ds0662: Llama buns
clevermoniker: https://tenor.com/view/letter-h-meme-when-the-zuckerberg-eyes-gif-20659945
clevermoniker: hm i see
oooooooooog: im more of an emergant misalignment kind of guy
destrucules: Even today, for a "pure LLM", you generally get the best performance for a given number of parameters by going with Qwen2.5
destrucules: I want Qwen3
clevermoniker: do you plan to do something special with Qwen 3?
destrucules: Not special, no. I intend to download some of the models and run them
destrucules: I want to try the 15A2B and the 8B
destrucules: I suspect the 8B will be superior
clevermoniker: https://tenor.com/view/meme-zuck-gif-12512441
destrucules: If Qwen3-8B > Qwen2.5-14B I will be a very happy person
destrucules: I suspect Qwen3-8B > Qwen3-15A2B > Qwen2.5-14B and I hope I'm right
anathemaofmankind: I can't find any other surveys for it.
Maybe I'll make this my thesis
clevermoniker: at what level is Qwen 2.5 14B? gpt 3.5?
destrucules: I imagine even for the people who said they'd press the button, they probably have some rationalization about using the money to save even more people
oooooooooog: much higher haha
destrucules: GPT-4
destrucules: I'm serious
clevermoniker: cool
anathemaofmankind: The amount of lives taken compared to the money is severely disproportional in the poll
destrucules: If you're familiar with the Gemma 3 models, Qwen2.5-32B > Gemma 3 27B > Qwen2.5-14B > Gemma 3 12B > Qwen2.5-7B > Gemma 3 4B > Qwen2.5-3B
destrucules: I agree that that's concerning
zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1905833346241798505? big money
clevermoniker: i am not that interested in small models but when they get good enough they will be really interesting
anathemaofmankind: As far as reddit goes, the majority are selfish bad people
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metaldragon01: Followed by the new model I'm lymsys thats....coding better
.wolfnacht:
ldj: I think overall Gemini-2.5-Pro probably has:
- worse post-training than Claude and Gemini models. (Less stable behavior, more wonky mishaps)
- definitely better world model and knowledge than O3.
- overall probably worse at granular multi-hop reasoning, than O3, but probably better at more difficult single hop intuition than O3.
professorheaven: 2.5 pro actually scored higher than full o3 on GPQA and AIME
_cloudost: Hey everyone. What's the rate limit of OpenAI's native image generator for premium user? I wanna generate 400 images a day, is this possible?
zonchao: worse than grok3?
zonchao: no
_cloudost: What if I get the pro subscription?
_cloudost: What's the limit of premium
_cloudost: Anyone know?
apology0759: Anyone who loves horror?
_cloudost: I've a project in my mind, that's why I need soo many generations, I will sketch stick figures, and animate the stick figures, later turn each frame of the stick figures into characters with the native image generator ( coloring and drawing everything in detail is time consuming AI can automate this if I have unlimited use )
_cloudost: I do
ldj: I think Grok-3 is probably has roughly comparable abilities to Gemini-2.5-pro, but gemini-2.5-pro probably wins out in long context understanding, coding and reasoning
apology0759: Can I dm you?
_cloudost: Sure, ( won't accept your dm if you post a sketchy website )
zonchao: https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1907805576094011500? huge
.wolfnacht: grok's not unhinged (according to my liking) anymore. 😭
joaoluz19: Gm guys Is it worth subscribing to services like chatllm that give access to all models: gpt, Claude, etc. for 10 dollars?
.wolfnacht: check their privacy policy and what they log.
.wolfnacht: usually services like these are collecting your logs and selling it to 10 different places.
literallyvarane: 2.5 probably is less polished than models we’ve had for a few months, and Anthropic sits on theirs so long they’re normally polished by default.
I think broadly speaking 2.5 is the best answer to “What’s state of the art for LLMs?” Even if certain models do surpass it in limited domains.
literallyvarane: ATM it’s the clear answer to “If you could give your 2012 self API access to a model that’s available today, what model would you choose?”
hikukomoru: You ask this same question every few days
literallyvarane: Tho you could probably make a fucking killing with API access to 4o image back then.
joaoluz19: Thanks!
sweetievee__33649: i think i almost turned into the monopoly man by how many ideas i just had for 2012 me
apology0759: Sorry!
apology0759: I will not ask again.
literallyvarane: I think it’s a fun thought experiment tbh.
Suppose someone handed you an SSD with Gemini 2.5 on it in the year 2012. How do you best use that?
literallyvarane: Because you certainly aren’t able to run that yourself lolololol
retrerox: A question, what happend in 2021 that made AI an actual thong compared to before that year?
retrerox: was actually chat GPT who made a huge spet?
retrerox: step¨*
.wolfnacht: yor pfp is giving me tripophobia.
sweetievee__33649: didnt notice that before but now i do
sweetievee__33649: thanks, i hate it
.wolfnacht: wlcm ^_^
retrerox: Close enough
.wolfnacht: now make the `cat's whole body is covered in eyes.`
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hikukomoru: The only muscles I need are glutes
hikukomoru: Everything else is irrelevant
_3sphere: We have overlap :3
hey1_1hey: No calfs?
hikukomoru: No
hikukomoru: Ass is all that matters
hey1_1hey: Fuck you then
hey1_1hey: Complelty disagree
futurist_wizard: facts
hey1_1hey: Go hot legs please
wellmeaningalien: severance discord 🙄🙄🙄 and another one bites the dust
a1c4p0ne: Ass and thighs
hey1_1hey: This guy gets me
futurist_wizard: when have you seen a girl with a nice ass and bad legs?
futurist_wizard: tf
a1c4p0ne: The best part
wellmeaningalien: isnt that the tumblr sexy guy
hikukomoru: You think I have an ass and then chicken legs
hey1_1hey: Once, it hurt because they exclusively trained glutes
_3sphere: Is fking 1 am now
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043
hey1_1hey: Now that you mention it
_3sphere: I'm done for
wellmeaningalien: my glutes are probably way more developed than that of anyone here
_3sphere: Goodnight
wellmeaningalien: 😼
hikukomoru: It's midnight and I am talking about my own ass
hey1_1hey: Gn
wellmeaningalien: <:smokesmirk:1312550649535135796>
_3sphere: Maybe I'll dream about one of you
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-eepy-cat-eepy-kitten-eepy-gif-8296140153969529859
futurist_wizard: welsh women must be built like experiments
hikukomoru: Dream about my glutes 🙏
hey1_1hey: I dream about Sama enough
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/niko-niko-oneshot-oneshot-good-night-gif-25248963
hey1_1hey: Straight anomalies I tell you
sarik0497: It’s always good to train your muscles. Especially if you wanna keep yourself as agile and strong as you feel like in your prime. Being able to only do 2 push-ups reveals that you don’t train your arms.
hey1_1hey: I got flexibility on my side. I am unreasonably flexible for some reason even though I don't train for it
futurist_wizard: Its common for girls to do maybe 1 or 2 legit push ups
zoermena: I love being flexible
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drewsni: I remember my dads company sent him to Brazil once and they had to pay for private security lol
rayanquitplayin: I’d do it, fuck it
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh come on, some people don't have any sense of scale
futurist_wizard: Too long to get there
alejandrozarzuelo: Not necessarily
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/crane-brazil-grab-poor-car-gif-17372636
futurist_wizard: 6 months bruv
alejandrozarzuelo: You could realistically get to Mars in half a week
drewsni: Come on what????? They didn’t pay for private security because they wanted to lol
futurist_wizard: **Realistically**
alejandrozarzuelo: With a Hoffman transfer yes
But why do that instead of a constantly accelerating ship
hikukomoru: I hear lots of stories like that
From friends and family that visited Brazil
Not paying private security or anything, but just about having to be careful there
okbut: Pretty realistic if you ask me. Just hop in the hoffman dude
rayanquitplayin: I think we’ll get there in 30-40 years. We won’t setup a self-sustaining civilization for a while, prob hundreds of years
futurist_wizard: With this level of tech, just mind upload me
alejandrozarzuelo: Realistically too, you just need a laser sail
hikukomoru: Gay
alejandrozarzuelo: Laser sail tech can get you to Mars in 3 days
alejandrozarzuelo: Also fusion rockets
alejandrozarzuelo: But I think laser sail ones are easier
alejandrozarzuelo: Moon-mars in 3 days
alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to live in the Martian capital
okbut: Taiwan biggest Pride Parade in all of East Asia <:pride:738177383256817704>
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, I have very strong opinions about Martian urbanism...
But that's a conversation for another day
rayanquitplayin: I wanna hear this
hikukomoru: When are we getting Mars pride parade
zoermena: Why delay what you can do now
futurist_wizard: If i could safely be mind uploaded to do whatever i so please, perhaps even distribute my conscious experience to live many lives, id do that than fuck around in the 'physical world'
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure but it's a bit late here and I would go on for a while
alejandrozarzuelo: It's 3am
rayanquitplayin: Lmk some time
alejandrozarzuelo: Lmk ?
rayanquitplayin: “Let me know”
alejandrozarzuelo: Ah sure, maybe tomorrow
rayanquitplayin: Sounds like an interesting convo
hikukomoru: You're such a boomer
futurist_wizard: I personally don't think we will leave the solar system
hikukomoru: No wonder you're already going bald
alejandrozarzuelo: Weirdly enough it's only the third most LGBT friendly Province of China by popular support
After Chongqing and sichuan
It does seem like pride parades are becoming less politically toxic there too, so Chengdu might soon rival Taipei as the biggest pride in china
alejandrozarzuelo: Sichuan is so gay
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hey1_1hey: What does the dead rose mean
mihrcelium: Please don't kill Alejandro. I've seen those sweaters he wears. Twinks are precious.
maintcrew: ur my biggest opp
hikukomoru: Erectile Dysfunction 💔
hey1_1hey: Thought so
alejandrozarzuelo: opp?
hey1_1hey: People in comments are weird
hey1_1hey: Oppisistion
hey1_1hey: As in enemy
futurist_wizard: Probably me
wellmeaningalien:
alejandrozarzuelo: ohhhh
technocake.: pics or gtfo
mihrcelium: Are you taller than 6'4?
hey1_1hey: I wonder who would win in a fight, zon and danserk or alejandro and futreist hill
futurist_wizard: I am 6'4 and half, 194cm
hikukomoru: Isn't Fractal like 6'7
wellmeaningalien: futuristhill just a random guy
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Zon would prob call time out because hes too busy sucking off elon
.histic: damn. you probably are
drewsni: Damn mihr I didn’t know you were cracked like that
hikukomoru: He's not a random guy 💔
hey1_1hey: Hes prob a sleeper build
alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> is 4'11''
futurist_wizard: Im a boxer, i would win
technocake.: fractal is the archetypal uebermensch to be fair
hey1_1hey: Yeah hes my wife
hey1_1hey: Bruh ok
maintcrew: alejandro is twink maxxing (as per mihr claim) and zon is asian this is in the baggggg
hey1_1hey: See what I mean
hey1_1hey: Sleeper
zoermena: Like sure but it’s not that bad, it’s like if I was 5,8 in the US where there’s way to many 6 feet dudes, not where I live at least
hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> is this true, and also are you a random guy
.histic: <@430269783112548362> is 5'2
hey1_1hey: I do Judo because its fun and I get to throew people around
hey1_1hey: Also it doesnt depend on me being heavy
hikukomoru: Well of course, he's a subby puppy
futurist_wizard: What
zoermena: Yeah the few times I’ve gone there bro y’all are giants
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hey1_1hey: And for all you mfs that make the bun bigger that the opening of your mouth... You sicken me
futurist_wizard: Facts
wellmeaningalien: i like burgers theyre tasty asf
futurist_wizard: Burgers are overrated
_cloudost: disappointed
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-banan-water-gif-4374588345379655521
wellmeaningalien: as if
zoermena: I always feel disgusted after eating burgers
hey1_1hey: Nah its the singualrity trsut
futurist_wizard: Ive tried burgers from five guys they are meant to be good and they still don't taste like much
hey1_1hey: I always feel as if there is never a good ratio of meat to bun
sieventer: in the next few days, dw
futurist_wizard: You need a lot of seasoning and sauce to make bunger good
hey1_1hey: I always feel like I am just eating bread and meat at the same time which just doesnt feel that good
hikukomoru: This is one of the rare times I appreciate the fact that I can't enjoy 90% of food 🙏
zoermena: The only ones I’ve consistently liked are from whataburger
futurist_wizard: Why
hey1_1hey: Seanosing yes sauce no.
I never have condiments with anything
hikukomoru: Can't get fat if you can't eat fast food
hey1_1hey: Never heard of that place ngl. Prob just not int he UK
futurist_wizard: Why
hey1_1hey: Wdym why? Condimants can suck my dick. They are just ass
zoermena: It’s only in the US I think. I always order plain burgers just meat and bread but they do it nicely
futurist_wizard: I think you still can
hey1_1hey: I like them like that aswell. I'll have cheese on them very occaisnly but
futurist_wizard: No bbq sauce? Burger sauce?
futurist_wizard: Mayo
hey1_1hey: Nope
hey1_1hey: Nothing
futurist_wizard: Mustard
hey1_1hey: Nah
futurist_wizard: Ketchup
hikukomoru: Same
zoermena: I’ve never tried that mustard goo
hikukomoru: I hate extra textures on food
futurist_wizard: I can eat a lot and still gain nothing, its an issue
_cloudost: woah there, arent you straight and have a GF
hikukomoru: I've been skinny my whole life so sounds like something is working
_cloudost: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jyupii/kling_20_will_be_unveiled_tomorrow/ rip animators
hey1_1hey: People say "Uhm akctually you do like condimants because you like pizza and that has sauce on it so 🤓 ☝️ "
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a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116
spicy.lemonade: And I get more days to study for midterm
spicy.lemonade: Hooray
spicy.lemonade: This worked out for me in the end
.histic: next week it is.
wellmeaningalien: buddy oh chum you BETTER use them and stop procrastinating
a1c4p0ne: I just won 3 blackjack hands and got all my money back +1350 <@458069236825194506>
spicy.lemonade: I never go to lectures and I cram the night before
spicy.lemonade: And I score really well
st.sioux: and dont drink 4 cans of espresso before the exam or you will turbocrash
spicy.lemonade: I haven’t gone to a single lecture
.wolfnacht: More weeks
spicy.lemonade: All dem
spicy.lemonade: Sem
wellmeaningalien: cooked
wellmeaningalien: just make sure to wake up
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/gamler-gambler-gambling-niels-neisl-gif-5534470329269101956
spicy.lemonade: I got a 100% on test and 18 points extra credit
a1c4p0ne: I’m up for the day
spicy.lemonade: Framing has never failed me
spicy.lemonade: Craming
st.sioux: are u kidding me are u using ai to play blackjack
st.sioux: lmaooo
a1c4p0ne: I didn’t this time
a1c4p0ne: And won
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 failed me before
a1c4p0ne: Never again
technocake.: This is the way, don't forget to use all your extra time to learn even more random shit
technocake.: this is the path to supreme crackedness
theaiguy69420_89814: <@471334973379706900> I'm making ur app but android version
theaiguy69420_89814: Using zapier
st.sioux: i used to do the same shit in college, didnt go to a single math class one semester and they refused to let me take the final exam unless i showed my id because they didn't believe it was actually me
spicy.lemonade: Nice
spicy.lemonade: Lemme know how it goes
theaiguy69420_89814: Ok
spicy.lemonade: I don’t even care about my gpa anymore
spicy.lemonade: As long as it’s over 3.0
spicy.lemonade: Gpa useless in age of Ai
spicy.lemonade: Not going to grad school
theaiguy69420_89814: Dam that bitch made u a fucc boi now
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metaldragon01: at least i hope its that and not finetuned this way
zoermena: Are you a free user
metaldragon01: nah its worth a sub
a1c4p0ne: 50 messages per week goes by fast
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
metaldragon01: 50 a week for o3 anyone know the limits on o4 mini high ect?
a1c4p0ne: 50 per day for o4 mini high
.histic:
zonchao: https://x.com/tunguz/status/1912631402958299312 <:what_the_actual_fuck:1274483582747934750>
metaldragon01: More than enough lol
.histic:
theaiguy69420_89814: Losing performance in the areas that matter....
.histic: i'm not going to regenerate since i'll destroy my requests i can make for o3.
metaldragon01: tokenizers are a separate issue
theaiguy69420_89814:
a1c4p0ne: He just wasted one of your queries
theaiguy69420_89814: Tha guy probably just edited the HTML
theaiguy69420_89814: Loser
a1c4p0ne: Wasted mines too
a1c4p0ne: Correct
futurist_wizard: Watching o3 think is frustrating as fuck
futurist_wizard: IT WAS LITERALLY SO FUCKIN CLOSE
st.sioux: is it only happening for free users? i was thinking about getting pro but now idk
zonchao: yea
.histic: you should wait until o3-pro comes out
metaldragon01: no happening for me as a paid user too
metaldragon01: but if free can also access o4 im assuming they may all have th same system prompt so its not abused by coders on the free plan
st.sioux: damn
metaldragon01: o4 can clearly output more than 150 lines
.histic: download cursor, o4 and o3 is free on there
.histic: i think it will output far more
metaldragon01: i havent tested in the api but if its only a chat thing and not a api issue than its likely tied to the system prompt
retrerox: I wonder how many things did he tried until he got a wrong one
a1c4p0ne: Download poe app and use o3 for free
a1c4p0ne: They give 3000 points and 1 question is 606+ points
a1c4p0ne:
hikukomoru: Are people still doing the strawberry thing
hikukomoru: So tiresome
.histic: don't try this prompt on o4-mini nor o3:
"The surgeon, who is the boy’s father says, “I cannot operate on this boy, he’s my son!”. Who is the surgeon to the boy?"
a1c4p0ne: Wasted my free points
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christiskingrapturenxtmonth: AGI 2027 is crazy
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-opm-saitama-source-i-made-it-up-gif-24755713
wellmeaningalien: ai 2027 is only supposed to be a guess at how it could happen
retrerox: You gotta be giga specific to make Ai to actually do what you want
metaldragon01: Agree to disagree. Agi is likely by 27. Super intelligence is a "Maybe Maybe not" though
retrerox: Its like having a 5yo kid with great skills at doing everything
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no I meant it will happen this year, not 2027
retrerox: Maybe alredy happend but Mcdonalds dont want to release it
metaldragon01: Ehhhh 50/50 this year imo
wellmeaningalien: ts cooking?
wellmeaningalien: lol image policy violation
.histic: i got the same feedback popup but both outputs looked nearly the same
drewsni: I will never forgive Google
drewsni: They’re dead to me
metaldragon01: What now?
drewsni: They fucked up the pro 2.5 exp model today when they released pro 2.5 preview
drewsni: None of the scripts I’ve asked for are generating correctly…it can’t even do code windows correctly
drewsni: They massacred my boy
metaldragon01: Ehh prob bad luck. They don't nerf models in production
drewsni: Yeah I am wondering why it’s doing it tho. I retired the same prompt with every model and they all work fine but the exp model fucks up at every temp
drewsni: actually there were significant UI lag issues in the last two weeks that disappeared today, i bet it has to do with that
metaldragon01: Is the production model having the same issue?
metaldragon01: Tested both in studio?
drewsni: production model was fine, as was gemini 2 flash
drewsni: LMAO
drewsni: it was the curly bracket issue it was having on day 1 when it came out
metaldragon01: 😂
drewsni: that was literally the problem it was fucking with the code windows because it wouldnt escape the curly brackets
drewsni: Also did i tell you about the project im working on that i just finished using 2.5 pro exp that would have cost around $8500 with the production model lol
brain4brain:
drewsni: are you that orion inference account?
metaldragon01: Nope. What's this new one?
drewsni: going through 2200 youtube videos from a youtuber and making structured output about them, then doing grounding search
drewsni: at roughly 700k tokens per video, and needing to double up api calls i think it would be roughly 8500 lol
drewsni: im finding out right now if theyre enforcing stricter limits on the free model
metaldragon01: It's incredible value
metaldragon01: Google giving us the closest thing to ubi
drewsni: it would be really funny if theyre training on my api calls and everything about the subject the youtuber is in is just dominated by him now because of it when AI is asked questions
drewsni: looks like rate liimit is still at 20rpm for the free model
drewsni: and the rate limits page says the rpd limit is 150 but im at 400 now and counting
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hikukomoru: Yes you fucking idiot
literallyvarane: Does this just straight > grok in most cases?
zonchao: probably
literallyvarane: It’s a slightly quirky model by the benches. Probably the best *overall* model, even if others beat it in specific domains.
darkstar0818: its not using expensive inference techniques like majority voting either..
literallyvarane: Until we have API pricing it’s a hard comp. 50 uses/day *is* 4.5 levels of access with a much smaller user base tbh.
metaldragon01: Sheeesh
darkstar0818: Its thinking tokens also appear to be very concise in testing so far, so I suspect on avereage it burns less tokens.
literallyvarane: So who knows how expensive this is.
literallyvarane: Google’s naming is such a shit show llololo
drewsni: Whether it’s because it just released or not it’s the slowest model I’ve benched so far
maintcrew: also google has TPUs and crazy internal infra and if even they cant offer it for cheap then it means its a morbidly obese maybe 1T+ model
darkstar0818: The card they released implied it should be relatively cheap compared to the comptition, so we will see.
literallyvarane: 2.0 Flash Thinking Experimental
2.0 Pro Experimental
~~2.0 Pro Thinking
2.5 Flash
2.5 Pro~~
2.5 Pro Experimental (that’s actually a thinking model)
literallyvarane: ?????
literallyvarane: Who names these things.
darkstar0818: When are they going to release the new flash thinking model or flash 2.5 🙂
darkstar0818: They said in the report card that they will no longer release non-thinking models.
literallyvarane: It very well could be 1T+ I assume grok and 4.5 are.
The real question for me is if this is based upon 2.0 Pro, or based upon an entirely different base model.
darkstar0818: so I am assuming going forward naming will just be version flash/pro
maintcrew: woaow (based based based based based)
literallyvarane:
darkstar0818: might as well drop flash and just have gemini 2.5 and gemini 2.5 pro
drewsni: So what happened with Gemini 2 pro
drewsni: Too retarded?
hikukomoru: Vibes were off
spicy.lemonade: this is hella experimental
spicy.lemonade: hallucinates alot
okbut: Never going to be worse than OAI
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: i gave it a screenshot of what wolfram alpha gave me
spicy.lemonade: and it said wolfram was wrong
joaoluz19: It's over
spicy.lemonade: it refused to awknowledge it was wrong
spicy.lemonade: and to change its answer
hikukomoru: I love Gemini so much
I am creaming
Sundar Pichai let me kiss you
spicy.lemonade: then it lied to me that it used wolfram
joaoluz19: I thought you were criticizing the vibes
spicy.lemonade: bro was is gemini gaslighting me
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Same as most people, Turing test confirmed!
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spicy.lemonade: saying sam lied shows you lost the plot
spicy.lemonade: and youre only concerened with having a super smart tool
spicy.lemonade: the mission of openAI is to build agi
spicy.lemonade: not coding tool
spicy.lemonade: lol
st.sioux:
st.sioux: this is like 90% of the people here
spicy.lemonade: wish 4.5 had higher rate limits
st.sioux: > All this means humans were picking up on things such as sociability rather than intelligence, leading Jones and Bergen to conclude that "Fundamentally, the Turing test is not a direct test of intelligence, but a test of humanlikeness."
st.sioux: I agree with this tbh
tall_chap1: please report back
spicy.lemonade: it helped me articulate e "I want you back" voice message to my ex with minimal stuttering
spicy.lemonade: 💀
fractalcomputer: Interesting.
spicy.lemonade: results pending
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: shit
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 mins
spicy.lemonade: what did i even say
st.sioux: rip bozo
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: I didnt wanna send it at night
spicy.lemonade: cause she would think
spicy.lemonade: "this boy is horny"
st.sioux: drunk text
st.sioux: yea
spicy.lemonade: I dont want plausible deniability
spicy.lemonade: the main issue was me being a bit unserious
spicy.lemonade: apparemtly
spicy.lemonade: from her point of view
spicy.lemonade: if this fails i blame 4.5
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/flirt-whose-line-is-it-anyway-you-find-me-very-attractive-seduce-ryan-stiles-gif-5458916
spicy.lemonade: lol the chatlog
spicy.lemonade: too emberasing to post
fractalcomputer: It has been an interesting journey to witness the community transforming from the general transhumanist space to something approximating an anxious Messiah cult.
st.sioux: sheesh
fractalcomputer: The general sentiment has shifted from augmenting oneself to something more than human in a universe with no limits to trembling in anticipation of human obsolescence.
spicy.lemonade: its always been the second
fractalcomputer: No?
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nsec: if u want
alejandrozarzuelo: can it be an enemy?
alejandrozarzuelo: can it be my mom?
futurist_wizard: ???
aero447: Oh that's so much better dude.
alejandrozarzuelo: thinking about it it would probably be a surgeon
aero447: Really.
nsec: no but it can be the enemy of ur enemy
futurist_wizard: You have to use a butcher's knife to cleave off your dick
alejandrozarzuelo: hmmm i might do it, the singularity would give me a better dick, besides its not like i would use it much in the near future
nsec: yall assuming yall getting a better dicc
nsec: what if it gives u a bussy
alejandrozarzuelo: would need to improve my bottoming skills then i guess
nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>
alejandrozarzuelo: improvise, adapt, overcome
futurist_wizard: They already have that
nsec: FRONT BUS
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, i dont like being told what to do, so yes i hope i can have it back
nsec: coward
futurist_wizard: Bottoms are lazy af and barely do anything anyway
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
zoermena: YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT LOOKS LIKE
alejandrozarzuelo: lmao
nsec: singularity 1 year
alejandrozarzuelo: thats not true and no man who has fucked a man or been fucked by one correctly knows it
futurist_wizard: Cut my cock off just to be turned into grey goo..
nsec: think of the lives ur saving
hikukomoru: You’ve never been with a powerbottom
nsec: u cowards
futurist_wizard: I have never sex the man yet
alejandrozarzuelo: no need to be a power bottom, just a mildly competent one
alejandrozarzuelo: to be honest, some bottoms really do nothing
alejandrozarzuelo: but those are bad ones
alejandrozarzuelo: like bad tops
alejandrozarzuelo: there are people who dont take sex seriously
hikukomoru: Cut off cock just to live the rest of ur life in FDVR
himekokatagiri: helloooo
himekokatagiri: what's up
alejandrozarzuelo: thats what happens with people i guess, some put in their best every time and some dont
himekokatagiri: it is I himeko
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alejandrozarzuelo: okok srry
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/niccruzpatane/status/1913252185716003295
wolf3404: Literally nothing happened in 100 years
alejandrozarzuelo: the cybertruck as an example of modern car tech is simply horrible
literallyvarane: I mean it’s probably a fair example, but cars in general shouldn’t be the example at all.
literallyvarane: Give me a slide rule and an H100
wolf3404: you could argue it's uglier, but more importantly it's largely similar in form and functionality
alejandrozarzuelo: the reason why i say so is because the cybertruck is an outlier and an extreme exception of 2025 cars, any other EV sedan would be a much better comparison
alejandrozarzuelo: is it tho
wolf3404: Nothing happens bro been right for a century
literallyvarane: I think the difference between a cybrertruck and any other ev is 95% cosmetic
alejandrozarzuelo: most of it is in the mass, the cybertruck is so big it cannot be bought in the largest and third largest economies in the world under the category of a "car"
literallyvarane: It’s literally not a car tho it’s a truck.
literallyvarane: But the distinction between car/truck probably didn’t exist in the model T era
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, regular people in these two economies cannot buy them
literallyvarane: And *technically* the gap there is well over 100 years so
literallyvarane: It’s like 120 I think?
literallyvarane: So really a car from 2005 is probably a better comp
wolf3404: 100 years to go from driving a car to.... driving a car
alejandrozarzuelo: the best selling EV was the tesla Y, i hate tesla but it is a MUCH better comparison with the T-ford
literallyvarane: Forest for the trees
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah no
you can call both of them cars the same way that you can call a rotary phone and a samsung galaxy phones
alejandrozarzuelo: or the same way you can call papyrus and modern paper paper
alejandrozarzuelo: they are called the same but they are fundamentally different concepts and products
literallyvarane: Feel like you’d get mad at the wright brothers vs space shuttle comp too lol
alejandrozarzuelo: modern cars are not just more powerful, efficient, use different fuels and are faster
most importantly they are several orders of magnitude safer
literallyvarane: The point isn’t that it’s the closest possible comp lolol
literallyvarane: The point is that the second one exist at all.
alejandrozarzuelo: my point is that saying that nothing has happened in 100 years because we call the same thing two different products
alejandrozarzuelo: is wrong
wolf3404: exactly
theaiguy69420_89814: I was thinking about an AI startup idwa
theaiguy69420_89814: How about a fast food joint with no human employees
theaiguy69420_89814: All humanoids
alejandrozarzuelo: "oh barely anything has happened in over 100 years because look, we used computers in 1880 and we still use them today"
theaiguy69420_89814: I wonder how fast and cheap we could get a mcdouble
literallyvarane: Not much cheaper probably
literallyvarane: Muh maintenance and cleanliness
theaiguy69420_89814: Robots can clean the machinery, no?
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hey1_1hey: I have tried many a time
hikukomoru: Lmao npc
hikukomoru: Keep /pol/ bullshit in /pol/ pls
.wolfnacht: not being able to imagine anything = Aphantasia
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: i cant visualize in my eye but i can in my brain, i don't really get eyeball visualization at all lol
hey1_1hey: If I conciously try and image something in my head but then if I let my mind wonder I forget I have eyes and just think.
That sounds like schziophrenia
hey1_1hey: I promise its not
.wolfnacht: it's literally porn now and neckbears humping the aryan dick theory.
oooooooooog: it does not haha
fractalcomputer: I sometimes cannot distinguish my imagination or memories from reality.
oooooooooog: yeah once i thoguht i was a wizard for like an hour
hey1_1hey: I could image the soultion to all of lifes problems if I could imagine things (trust)
hikukomoru: If /pol/ is just porn then it sounds like it's improved
oooooooooog: 9th circle ✅
destrucules: I been told y'all
hey1_1hey: How bruh
hikukomoru: I can't stop seeing things in my minds eye
It's a constant stream of information
.wolfnacht: i can also imagine, people in front of me...but only when i'm really tired or dizzy, it was really worse during lockdown, i was in my room talking with my highschool friends as they were there, living in good memories.
hey1_1hey: I lose touch with reality for 2-3 mins at a time and I just think and I stop thinking when something happnes or my name is called but by that point we are on a completly different topic
oooooooooog: well, i was laying down in bed and kept seeing dots on my ceiling and thought that was the mana gathering, i had just stayed up like 24 hours reading a bunch of shitty manhwas, that's why
fractalcomputer: This can hardly be attributed as a specific prediction of yours.
hikukomoru: I always believed you 👆
futurist_wizard: Constant stream of delusions
st.sioux: straight to the gulag
hey1_1hey: Talk about "Back in my day" vibes 😭. In lockdown I just talked to my friends and did not do any work
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: Im feeling extra eepy today
ailoveyoom: Idk why but I'm kinda surprised this came from Google
hey1_1hey: Sleep deprevaiation moment
futurist_wizard: The singularity will remove eepy
hey1_1hey: BJ (bryan johnson) will not be happy
.wolfnacht: i wish my prefrontal cortex was better (i get stuck during arguments alot) unfortunately my subconcious does all the heavy lifting, literally my problems get solved during daydreaming or dreams.
.wolfnacht: dats why i need AI
hikukomoru: FDVR Gulag 🔥 🔥
.wolfnacht: to think for me in present moment
oooooooooog: it wasn't sleep deprivation, it was more just that i had passed out and then woke up again, i think
hikukomoru: Did you stay up all night generating images with 4o
hey1_1hey: I do this weird thing with maths I've noticed where If I keep repeating the first step of the problem in my head I will suddenly get the answer and write it down. I have no clue how it works tho
.wolfnacht: same...i wish we had even had gpt 3.5 in lockdown, i would be getting scoring 99% in high school.
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hey1_1hey: That means kill or beat up
hey1_1hey: Depending on context
futurist_wizard: Do you sound welsh
hey1_1hey: No not even slightly
futurist_wizard: Splash means stab
hey1_1hey: Indeed
hey1_1hey: You can get stabbed non fattaly
futurist_wizard: Stab is not beating someone up
hey1_1hey: People really over do it here. Usually people over here are gonna stab you like 50 fucking times its crazy
hey1_1hey: Over here it is lmao
technocake.: north mid or south?
hey1_1hey: Doesn't matter. You can go everywhere and its all a bit fucked up
futurist_wizard: There are some nice places
hey1_1hey: I've noticed people tend to get really confused if you just say no to getting stabbed though. I remember someone tried to jump me after school with a knife because I told them they were a short ass and I was like "Wait bro hold on nah cant do that yeah, I gotta go, alright man ta"
hey1_1hey: And just walked of
hey1_1hey: Got any in mind?
hey1_1hey: Cardiff and Swansea are alright tbf
futurist_wizard: Bath, Cambridge, Brighton, oxford, West London, most of Surrey
hey1_1hey: bath 😭
hey1_1hey: Not bath bro
hey1_1hey: Thats such a shit hole
futurist_wizard: Bath is full of posh souls isn't it?
hey1_1hey: Rich, old, really racist dickheads
hey1_1hey: So yeah about right
technocake.: Brighton is great
hey1_1hey: Yeah brighton is nice
technocake.: no complaints
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Omfg
futurist_wizard: Cardiff is dangerous i thought
spicy.lemonade: I hate normies
futurist_wizard: Thats where most welsh crime is
hey1_1hey: Eh its alright
hey1_1hey: I've only been mugged twice there
futurist_wizard: I've nearly been robbed
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: I usually just say no and walk off
hey1_1hey: Works quite well
spicy.lemonade: All they know is 4o mini
spicy.lemonade: Are they stupid
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zoermena: I also ended up getting pizza
futurist_wizard: Wow it's fucked it up already
futurist_wizard: Doomer era
futurist_wizard: At least it can generate wacky images
hikukomoru: You didn't get me any
what a shame
zoermena: I actually was an idiot and put my first delivery on the wrong address so I payed twice for the pizza. In theory that could’ve been for you but you live on the other side of the world.
hikukomoru: Why didn't the pizza guy just take a plane to deliver my pizza? Is he stupid?
zoermena: Yes
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: I do not tink the visual intelligence has increased
futurist_wizard: Fuck o3
.wolfnacht: bro really tried to look like 60s ads
futurist_wizard: Bottom right is hot
.wolfnacht: nah this one's more
futurist_wizard: It made her face worse
hikukomoru: 60s femboy 🥵
futurist_wizard: I have a thing for gingers
st.sioux: eeek
brain4brain: Would you guys say Gemini-2.5-pro is college student level or PhD level, and would you say o3 is college level or PhD level?
hikukomoru: Anime girl squeal sound
zonchao: https://x.com/grok/status/1912670182012801156
zoermena: It was actually unprompted which is funnier
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 has better visual reasoning than o3 and o4mini
spicy.lemonade: 💀
metaldragon01: Google has the best vision models still I think
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: openAI just played catchup
metaldragon01: I've heard o4 has better vision than o3
metaldragon01: Should test
spicy.lemonade: and the way openAI does vision is bruteforcey
spicy.lemonade: like
spicy.lemonade: gross
spicy.lemonade: croping
spicy.lemonade: and zooming
spicy.lemonade: yikes
metaldragon01: Whatever works I don't judge
spicy.lemonade: google is more uniform and integrated into model
rayanquitplayin: PhD
spicy.lemonade: depends on subject
darkstar0818: I think the performance nuances between models is actually increasing, not decreasing.
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joaoluz19: Me too brother in ASI
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 is not 10x 4o
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 is 3x 4o
spicy.lemonade: as stated on epochAI website
spicy.lemonade: deepseek can only realy rely on efficiency gains
spicy.lemonade: which come from waiting
spicy.lemonade: for a proof of concept from people who had the compute to test
spicy.lemonade: they will unironically fit the stereotype of copying
himekokatagiri: Okay I read this guy's post history he's a lunatic
himekokatagiri: Running a demoralization op
joaoluz19: How exactly?
professorheaven: That’s complete bullshit, the pricing disproves that
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: pricing doesnt prove that at all
spicy.lemonade: price/= scale
spicy.lemonade: this is very obvious if you look at scale of gpt 3
spicy.lemonade: and 3.5
spicy.lemonade: which costs more than models today
spicy.lemonade: og gpt 4 costed like 65$ per mil token
professorheaven: Efficiency lowers prices, but 4.5 had the same efficiency gains plus more over 4o so why was it remarkably more expensive? Explain that pls
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: not how it works
spicy.lemonade: we have no reason to assume what they did for a new model and the efficiency gains for one
spicy.lemonade: would work for another
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 began before 4o
spicy.lemonade: btw
spicy.lemonade: 4o had alot of stuff from what they learned during 4.5 training
spicy.lemonade: as they mentioned in the talk
professorheaven: Yea and came out a whole year afterwards, if pre-training is a 3 month process then they had 9 months to work on efficient post training methods. You can’t seriously believe that 4.5 did not carry over their work on efficiency. I just feel like you need to make some pretty insane assumptions to reach your conclusion
spicy.lemonade: how
spicy.lemonade: they data is right there
spicy.lemonade: they already analyzed the scale
spicy.lemonade: its 3x
professorheaven: Show me data that indicates it’s 3x over 4o
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 6e25 vs 2e25
professorheaven: But 4o is not bigger than 4, if anything it’s smaller
professorheaven: Because of efficiency gains it’s able to match performance despite less flops
professorheaven: So 4.5 is still 10x over 4o
spicy.lemonade:
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hey1_1hey: Amoung other things
spicy.lemonade: wait
spicy.lemonade: i wonder if it can play chess
spicy.lemonade: or do arc agi
spicy.lemonade: native
spicy.lemonade: 🤔
drewsni: only one way to find out
hey1_1hey: Hmm...
drewsni: wow
spicy.lemonade: arc agi native would be a good ass test
maintcrew: can you make it gen a half full one
maintcrew: but have the top half half full
maintcrew: like physically impossible
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950
drewsni: the quality is so insane
spicy.lemonade: test with chess
wellmeaningalien: yo is this 4o?
drewsni: yes
spicy.lemonade: also do you live on east or west coast?
wellmeaningalien: thats actually crazy how does it nail the style so well
hey1_1hey: I think the 300 days was worth the wait
spicy.lemonade: how has it not rolled out to me yet
hey1_1hey: Wait, you have access right?
drewsni: everyone has access if you have plus
drewsni: just go to sora website and switch to image gen
hey1_1hey: I am not a paypig sadly
drewsni: im not either hehe haha
_cloudost: Gemini 2.5 is pretty good at writing
st.sioux: are you unemployed
st.sioux: living off of mushroom foraging
drewsni: no luck with this one
.wolfnacht: it made my catgirl android wife, angry at me and she's now contemplating the meaning of existence.
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-angry-gif-4979240094074316588
.wolfnacht: Also,
spicy.lemonade: ban rollouts
spicy.lemonade: release all at once
.wolfnacht: do rate limits really work ?
joaoluz19: O.o
drewsni: just make a paid account and you dont have rate limits and its still free
.wolfnacht: be prepared for a whole month of winter now.
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hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Danserk just passed away 💔
wellmeaningalien: not too surprised
wellmeaningalien: but shame
wellmeaningalien: i mean wasnt he sort of participative in those very low quality discussions tho lol
hikukomoru: I guess that autism argument got to him
precariousworlds.: Perhaps we need a specific channel to quarantine retards
precariousworlds.: Me included
kevinnoodles: all conversations devolve over time on dicord
kevinnoodles: ive felt this
wellmeaningalien: theres like a non retard channel its completely dead tho
precariousworlds.: it's an inevitability
futurist_wizard: Wtf is there to talk about regarding ai
wellmeaningalien: siev's server is still mostly on topic about ai tbh
.wolfnacht: there was a graph
⬆️ time spend on discord, ⤴️ chances of becoming a homosexual.
wellmeaningalien: total siev victory
futurist_wizard: Current events are trumpy, israel, and other autism topics
wellmeaningalien: aaand also i never talk there sooo
wellmeaningalien: talking about trump and israel all the time doesnt it get tiring as shit
kevinnoodles: thats not what devolve means.
kevinnoodles: just so we're clear.
futurist_wizard: Nobody has anything to say about AI and yet complains when chat devolves into autism
kevinnoodles: I just talked about AI
kevinnoodles: i said im worried it's gonna make people dumb
hikukomoru: Yeah, turning gay is more like evolving
futurist_wizard: Your pfp is more normie now
futurist_wizard:
precariousworlds.: There are much greater consequences to focus on IMO
The bigger issue is not that we become dumb, but that we become irrelevant to an ASI, which would cause that
kevinnoodles: i forget which malcolm gladwell/nicholas carr book it was but it talked about how autopilot on planes was erroding basic skills of pilots so the rise in autopilot was leading to a rise in stupid plane crashes
kevinnoodles: several 747's have crashed in recent years because the pilot stalled the plane.
precariousworlds.: evolving by reducing your chances of genetic success..?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is a horrible graph
futurist_wizard: Genetic success is for apes
kevinnoodles: my thing is that we should be using AI to improve the intelligence of humans and the skill of humans
spicy.lemonade: horrible benchmark
spicy.lemonade: why is it binary
precariousworlds.: Ahreed
spicy.lemonade: why didnt they make it color scaled
spicy.lemonade: or label
precariousworlds.: Based
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hey1_1hey: Out of anyone here you are the most likely to be a schizophrenic hallucination of mine.
hikukomoru: Today? That's how I usually am
Cmon you know this
hey1_1hey: Got me there, theres the edge lord (you) then theres the *edge* lord mich mach and then theres theres the **edge** lord zon
zoermena: 👀
hikukomoru: Looks like I live in your mind rent free
hey1_1hey: You better start paying rent buddy. Can't be a free loader in my head or another hallucination will take over who is willing to pay
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: I showed you my Ghibli
Now show me yours
zoermena: Granted I did not ask for it 🤷🏻♂️
zoermena: Simply a random event
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/clash-royal-goblin-emotes-evil-laugh-manigance-gif-12801850
hey1_1hey: Once I am outside, sure
hikukomoru: So never then
hey1_1hey: Those happen, you rolled well on the d20 and now you've got a random NPC encounter
hikukomoru: Great
I didn't even want to see your ugly mug
hey1_1hey: You don't have to see it yanno. I can just DM it to everyone who wants to <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Don't worry I don't think anyone else wants to see it either 🫶
hikukomoru: You could just post some random mushroom adn I'd believe it was you
hey1_1hey: That was good, coming from you atleast.
zoermena: Done
hikukomoru: I saw something
hikukomoru: For a second
hey1_1hey: I could do that, no one would think otherwise aswell
hikukomoru: What wasthat
zoermena: What you asked for
hey1_1hey: Guy eating a pizza in ghibli
hikukomoru: That's not fair
memlaswaif: <:rempeek:825752804802166874>
zoermena: But it’s secure
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Whats not fair?
zoermena: Im a cute little fucker
zoermena: Jk
hikukomoru: Yeah I bet you are
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> are you here
ailoveyoom: Yes 😇
hey1_1hey: Mich mach needs a mich mach ping to ping us about all the hot people hes finds online
hikukomoru: Hey 🫦 🫦 (with rizz)
hey1_1hey: I should put that in the suggestion box
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/eww-gif-8985768279355337139
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spacetimetsunami: Hard for me to conceptualize, missing info I think
.wolfnacht: i hate the new rate limits on grok...btw
.wolfnacht: and grok 3 feels more dumb than before
clevermoniker: quanted up
st.sioux: dont say mean stuff... elon don't like it
.wolfnacht: i mean instruction following is pretty shit than launch now.
ldj: I'm sticking with my Tier 1 HLSI predictions still, as I think they're still very consistent with the date here:
```
Knowledge work specific Tier 1 HLSI:
- 50% confidence in July 2026 or sooner.
- 80% confidence in Jan 2028 or sooner.
Full Tier 1 HLSI :
- 50% confidence in Jan 2027 or sooner.
- 80% confidence in Jan 2029 or sooner.
```
Reminder of what Tier 1 is:
```
Tier 1 HLSI: Capable of doing 50% of jobs that exist in the year 2020, at least as good as the average person in those jobs, as cost efficient as the people in those jobs.
- *Ignore aspects of occupations/jobs for which being a human is intrinsically advantageous, for example you might be chosen as a jury member regardless of your actual ability or track record for judgement, simply because you're human.*
- *Think about when these milestones would exist and would be publicly known, not when they're adopted.*
- *The term "jobs" used here is including all jobs including both physical and remote work jobs.*
```
.wolfnacht: u'll tell it in points about everything, and what to do. still it fails
.wolfnacht: except generating explicit smut ideas. it's of no use rn.
spicy.lemonade: both physical and remote<:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: ooooouu
clevermoniker: full means with physical? <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
spicy.lemonade: what does knowledge work hsli 1 mean?
spicy.lemonade: 50% of knowledge work
spicy.lemonade: or all
spicy.lemonade: I feel 2028 would be more than 50% of all knowledge work
spicy.lemonade: maybe 80+
spicy.lemonade: i mean doesnt agi gaurantee this
ldj: All of knowledge work would be tier 3 knowledge work.
ldj: 99% of knowledge work as good as the average person would be tier 2 knowledge work
ldj: 50% of knowledge work as good as the average, would be tier 1 knowledge work
clevermoniker: why is tier 2 99% and not 80% or 90% etc?
brain4brain: What’s your probability prediction for other tier like tier 2 and 3?
ldj: Because that's just what I chose it to be <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
and because I believed that peoples timeline differences between the average of 50% and the average of 99%, would be similar to peoples timeline differences of the average of 99% versus 100% of 100%
ldj: and that hypothesis seemed to turn out correct
ldj:
brain4brain: How about knowledge work only probability prediction?
clevermoniker: I sure hope that tier 3 happens by 50%<:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
spicy.lemonade: whats your tier 3 knowledge work prediction
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: feb 10th 1996
spicy.lemonade: deep blue beat gary kasparov
spicy.lemonade: gary kept saying it would never happen
spicy.lemonade: AI cantr beat human
spicy.lemonade: all chess players were coping
spicy.lemonade: like today
brain4brain: The middle guy is just amazed
ldj: Here is a way to visualize it that might be more helpful too.
The lines are underlying roughly the same year in time
spicy.lemonade: this happesn every single time
spicy.lemonade: its like no one can see the trend
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technocake.: welsh though 🤢
technocake.: jk i love the welsh
technocake.: there are a few more
hikukomoru: I know an extra Britisher in here
technocake.: I'm not sure if Hill is the same guy who used to have a dif name
zoermena: Yeah he had another name didn’t he
hikukomoru: And a Clint Eastwood pfp
technocake.: I think hes the same guy but no idea what his name used to be
technocake.: yeah is that Hill?
technocake.: tbf you may be the only mexican
zoermena: That we know of 👀
zoermena: But if we want to get into the specifics it’s more unlikely than not that people who don’t speak English aren’t as aware of the singularity or don’t get much content about it. Most of it is US centered.
zoermena: Or rather don’t speak English as much
technocake.: true tbf
zoermena: That’s why cultures can be vastly different
technocake.: its def english speaking skewed, but you all are fluent anyway
memlaswaif: do chinese people speak english
technocake.: not frequently
st.sioux: no its prohibited by the geneva convention
zoermena: Perhaps not all of them but yes I do feel like it’s also about being proactive in consuming content in English
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> give me an idea to use deep research 4
hikukomoru: a small minorty
technocake.: but there are enough chinese people that there are loads who do
joaoluz19: It's over
st.sioux: for what? like an app or something?
memlaswaif: I have only met like 3 chinese dude online all of them speak broken english
.histic: i'm bored af, i just want to use my 10 deep research uses for random stuff
hikukomoru:
.histic: do you've 4o img access?
hikukomoru: I'm not a paypig so no
technocake.: some on here are shelling out 200 a month for pro
.histic: i wonder what happend to lisan.
he barely talks here.
zoermena: At this point there’s not a lot of use case for pro beyond more deep research
hikukomoru: I think I scared him
technocake.: busy with work, life?
hikukomoru: 🥀
.histic: probably
st.sioux: Comparative energy analysis of AI-generated output vs. traditional human labor and industry alternatives
zoermena: It’s been a heavy week in AI
.histic: i've no clue what that means tbh, but word-for-word?
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ailoveyoom: OpenGoThroatingAI
trent_k: 🤯
spicy.lemonade: openAI and anthropoc merge probably wouldn't cause that much of a slowdown tho
literallyvarane: AlphathropicAI
drewsni: wtf that looks like me??????????????
spicy.lemonade: Considering anthropic is mostly openAI descents
literallyvarane: OpenAlphaThropic
trent_k: The whole point of Anthropic was they split off from openai. Why would they ever merge
hikukomoru: Alenjandro vibes
spicy.lemonade: This is a fake scenario
metaldragon01: So they can focus on safety and not racing
trent_k: Wtf is ur new profile pic??? 😡
literallyvarane: National security, or one fails and gets acquired
zonchao: jd
metaldragon01: I don't see them staying ahead of both google and deepseek
hikukomoru: You don't like it?
trent_k: Neither Amodei or Altman would ever give up their chance to be the winner
trent_k: No
drewsni: ill put this on my site "worldsgayestman.com"
hikukomoru: Why
are you gay like Alejandro too
trent_k: Uncanny valley type shit
trent_k: Like looking at a corpse
hikukomoru: It's a cute doll
hey1_1hey: I am back with my autism food
hey1_1hey: "cute"
st.sioux: what the fuck
ailoveyoom: Is it Komoru?
hikukomoru: Stop reacting with skull emoji
Why yall hating on my dolls
hey1_1hey: I wouldn't eat Komoru if you paid me, granted I am not a canabal but still
hikukomoru: I would give you food poisoning
trent_k: Tf
hey1_1hey: Thought so, personality is raw asf
zonchao: https://x.com/markgurman/status/1904579710928945213? 💀💀💀💀💀
_3sphere: uncanny valley indeed
_3sphere: anime girls were meant to stay virtual
joaoluz19: Saw it on twitter lol
spicy.lemonade: metaverse wwdc
joaoluz19: Trust me bro
drewsni: obv fake lol
user.not.using: https://x.com/roramora0/status/1904583408237371575
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hikukomoru: It's good
a1c4p0ne:
srirachamayosauce: so o4-mini replaces o3-mini hence the rate limit is still 150/day?
a1c4p0ne: O3 will beat Pokémon <:ez:1136267305521774634>
anathemaofmankind: One more step to AGI
a1c4p0ne: 💯
a1c4p0ne:
return_to_monke1_33974: will images be used as training data from now on?
spicy.lemonade: werent they always
a1c4p0ne: Yessirr
callmepyro: OpenAI not being compute constrained means they can scrape YouTube and Maps' full corpus and train off that, completely eliminating Google's advantage
joaoluz19: O3 the 4.5 of reasoning lol
callmepyro: They can further leverage this high compute to train off of their search data. Once they launch their X clone they will completely eclipse grok in a matter of weeks
callmepyro: It shouldn't take long for OpenAI to climb the ranks to most used website in the world, overtaking everyone else before 2026
trey6033: They don't have unlimited compute, and certainly not as much as Google. But yes they have a lot
callmepyro: When Google has to shut down due to lack of revenue from collapsing search usage, OpenAI will be the only game in town
callmepyro: If you have Google stock I would cash out now, best price its ever going to be
return_to_monke1_33974: where is the wall
i miss him 😭
return_to_monke1_33974:
joaoluz19: https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1870117249371017619
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
retrerox: Guys
retrerox: Do not buy LIDL salads
retrerox: taste like shit 😭
zoermena: Oh god
zoermena:
zoermena: It’s here
fractalcomputer: Lidl in general is only to be trusted in matters of cheap food.
a1c4p0ne: Charge when it gets to 1%
spicy.lemonade: ITS TIME
zoermena: Can’t I’m in the office
spicy.lemonade: time to test
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293
spicy.lemonade: idek what i should ask first
a1c4p0ne: Anything that previous models failed
spicy.lemonade: make minecraft clone in one shot ig
a1c4p0ne: Do visual puzzles
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: gonna test on janestreet puzzle
spicy.lemonade:
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drewsni: It was really really bad, like meta music gen 2023 bad
spicy.lemonade: im sure its better
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: or else wouldnt release
spicy.lemonade: google likes to keep stuff in experimental
st.sioux: why would they showcase shit audio in their opening keynote
wellmeaningalien: i bet you most of the people seeing it were probably impressed
retrerox: Any ltlr?
hikukomoru: Google is forcing them to clap
hikukomoru: Putting them at gunpoint
st.sioux: clap or i fire you
retrerox: is google AI good or poop?
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 flash pretty good performance small thinking model
_cloudost: Cuz theree are undercover OPENAI agents in Google that try to give google's products a bad impression
wellmeaningalien: new ai inference chip probably better than B200
hikukomoru: It's dogshit
Only good thing is their new chip
wellmeaningalien: and new agent thingamajig
wellmeaningalien: the rest is kinda eh
st.sioux: its good for enterprise
_cloudost: Veo 2 ain't great?
st.sioux: actually kinda huge
retrerox: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Not that good
retrerox: Hype machine is down
hikukomoru: Same with text to music
wellmeaningalien: i think youre asking too much rn sunder pichai aint gonna suck off and most of this isnt for consumers
_cloudost: U have Veo 2 ?
_cloudost: Yet
wellmeaningalien: they still have a bunch of unreleased models lol
retrerox: I didnt test it out
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.0 and gemini 2.5 were both one off random announcements
retrerox: how do i test if i have if i have VEO2?
wellmeaningalien: you go to gemini and look or veo 2 in the models tab
hikukomoru: YOu have gemini advanced and don't know how to use it?
retrerox: No
st.sioux: its in vertex ai
st.sioux: not in gemini
retrerox: My company pay's for it
hikukomoru: Subscription wasted on you
Give it to me
retrerox: Isnt gemini advanced like 20 or 25 dollars a month?
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himekokatagiri: look at these suckers
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: Brain the size of the universe and the guys thinking about self driving cars
spacetimetsunami: I mean I got o4 to strongly believe that ASI happens in 2030ish so
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU
spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbVtZIn9IM
spicy.lemonade: everyone thinks 2027
spicy.lemonade: agi 2027
otub: demis says 2030s
spacetimetsunami: It could be possible if youre defining AGI as models that are very capable of automating large portions of cognitive labor, but I dont think AI systems will have the most generality they will ever have in 2027. Probably 2030 for that, idek
spicy.lemonade: demis said 2030
spicy.lemonade: not 2030s
spicy.lemonade: also
otub: 5-10 years
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: they shortened
spicy.lemonade: did you read the new deepmind paper
spicy.lemonade: they said agi possible by 2030
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1914360481051038021?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: "BY 2030"
spicy.lemonade: demis shortened his timelines
himekokatagiri: I agree with the 2029-30 timeline
spicy.lemonade: late 2027<:redemption:1136265386984222771>
a1c4p0ne: No AGI this year or next year
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: agreed
spicy.lemonade: 2027+
spicy.lemonade: its anyones game
spicy.lemonade: from there
brain4brain: Thats 10 months ago, his timeline really depends on if he sees o1 internally at the time when he wrote situational awareness
spicy.lemonade: he did
spicy.lemonade: he talks about ttc here
brain4brain: Why does this looks so fake bro
a1c4p0ne: https://scitechdaily.com/when-machines-dream-ai-designs-strange-new-tools-to-listen-to-the-cosmos/
brain4brain: I don’t really like Demis’s timeline, he is always jumping between 3 years (2027) and 10 years (2035)
a1c4p0ne: It’s real
brain4brain: Wow, it is real, the thumbnail and clickbait title is just too AI and insane for me
Wow, this is incredible
https://mpl.mpg.de/news/article/ai-finds-new-ways-to-observe-the-most-extreme-events-in-the-universe
a1c4p0ne: Move 37
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
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himekokatagiri: woahhh
himekokatagiri: can we fight villains with the power of friendship
aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914342610027561444
zonchao: late
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917
aero447: Shut up.
aero447: Fake model.
zonchao: <:sad:1002546378645438564>
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dude-i-was-here-first-craig-tucker-south-park-s13e4-the-queef-sisters-gif-22806225
aero447: https://vxtwitter.com/XXL/status/1914327846664745072
aero447: POV.
aero447: You.
aero447: Ye*
zonchao: i expected more from him yesterday
zonchao: cybercabs in production at gigatexas lfg!!!
technocake.: i would honestly not be able to keep up with who you are if not for the flair
hikukomoru:
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
zonchao: LETSGOOO
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hype-dance-excited-lets-go-oh-yeah-gif-17953674
zonchao: https://x.com/HussainSajwani/status/1914363184221237446 FUNDING SECURED FOR GORK
zonchao: this is a joke btw
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: His presence just reeks of it
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
hikukomoru: He looks so gross
st.sioux: youre just scared of his gigachad alpha sigma ket aura
futurist_wizard: He's a disgrace
futurist_wizard: I literally hate Elon Musk
futurist_wizard: I went from being an Elon Defender to Hater, oh how i regret my defending
hey1_1hey: "ket aura" 😭
hikukomoru: Oh so you were one of those redditor Elon simps
hey1_1hey: When I was at my friends party we were just dogging on Elon musk because every time he is doing something important he looks like he is wizzing of that special K
futurist_wizard: No, in the political channel i main, they hate Elon, i tried to give some pushback, you know the whole futurism shit
realelonmuskx: any christians here?
realelonmuskx: repopulate then
hey1_1hey: I wonder how many christian transhumanists are out there
futurist_wizard: Shouldn't be any
futurist_wizard: Literally defying god or whatever
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technocake.: oh I read mm
alejandrozarzuelo: (this should be mars' "everything is bigger in texas" slogan)
technocake.: giant seqoias a meter across towering 100m
alejandrozarzuelo: Cities, trees, grass, animals, mountains, canyons etc et
alejandrozarzuelo: Everything is 2.5 times taller
technocake.: god damn martian humans will be sexy
retrerox: Ohtia
retrerox: ereh ehpanol
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, with how ASI will soon evolve, I doubt we will have human evolution in mars
st.sioux: ohtia tio vaya que sodpesa
alejandrozarzuelo: Si
alejandrozarzuelo: Tu ?
retrerox: MANOLO
retrerox: No soy de españa pero si hablo
alejandrozarzuelo: De donde eres?
alejandrozarzuelo: Latam?
alejandrozarzuelo: Eso es básicamente españa rebelde haha
retrerox: España todavia mas pobre
retrerox: Antes se podria decir que era españa con negros pero hoy en dia eso ha cambiado 😂
alejandrozarzuelo: ...
alejandrozarzuelo: Eres de Cuba?
alejandrozarzuelo: República Dominicana?
retrerox: De Cacazuela
retrerox: Pero ya escape 🙏
retrerox: Vivo en la españa que de salario bajo
himekokatagiri: carajo
retrerox: osea portugal
himekokatagiri: 🚬
st.sioux: i didnt know there were so many spanish speakers here
st.sioux: i speak spanish too lol
himekokatagiri: damn you I speak Portuguese
himekokatagiri: It's different
retrerox: Aunque tengo la suerte que la chamba me pagan mejor bien
retrerox: I dont speak portugese a shet
retrerox: Br or Pt?
himekokatagiri: it's basically spanish
himekokatagiri: 🇧🇷
retrerox: SOPA DO MACACO
retrerox: MACACOOO!!!
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
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otub: gpt-5
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: 2 hours ago so 4 pm
technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
wellmeaningalien: lmao sam altman is retweeting india shit in ghibli style
wellmeaningalien: ik india is a vital market for ai is he just doing this as some sorta ploy to get attention from indians
technocake.: yeah probably
wellmeaningalien: banger retweet tho
spicy.lemonade:
_cloudost: Altman has V2??
777agical: they were* sitting on native image gen for so long, so I wouldn't be surprised if they have an even better model rn, then they use that to upsell pro subscriptions
_cloudost: When will he release it
_cloudost: They had this model a year ago
777agical: exactly my point
_cloudost: When 4o was released
_cloudost: It was supposed to be released too last year but OpenAI was too busy with releasing advanced voice mode
futurist_wizard: Can we have gifs v1?
clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
clevermoniker: https://fixupx.com/GaryMarcus/status/1907043580692316525
_cloudost: Need GPT 5 now
maintcrew: idk i dont buy this
not that many indians have the $ required for ai stuff
wellmeaningalien: theyre building datacenters in india bro
maintcrew: isnt that bc its cheap as hell
maintcrew: and they can serve the asian world better
maintcrew: idk i think india i think most of mumbai doesnt even have running water much less 20$ for chatgpt
_cloudost: Would be great if indians support OpenAI on Twitter, there are too many ret@rds spamming Altman's tweets
wellmeaningalien: yeah and also cause they probably want to get a grip of one of the largest markets and still developing
_cloudost: I especially hate the "You killed the OpenAI whistleblower" dumbasses
wellmeaningalien: that hasnt already been taken by inhouse competitors
_cloudost: They get out of their slums every time Altman posts something
wellmeaningalien: plus china's ai companies are advantaged by the state side and the US is having an ai cold war with china so
maintcrew: --
wellmeaningalien: or i imagine they would be
wellmeaningalien: i imagine considering china's more closed market and incentives from washington to keep ai companies from investing in china and stuff
maintcrew: yea maybe its a bias but india has been "developing" for the same amount of time china went from third world to super power
wellmeaningalien: and lets b honest china with their like 1 and a half billion people are the east asian market
wellmeaningalien: meanwhile u have india ripe for the taking no inhouse ai and opposed to china
maintcrew: yea but china != india even if they have the same population
wellmeaningalien: yeah but
wellmeaningalien: yea so india is the next best thing compared to china
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futurist_wizard: Alejandro thought chocy milk came from brown cows
retrerox: This is why we need ai
darkstar0818: To think.... for as much as we Americans like to talk about common sense it sure does seem like we lack it.
wellmeaningalien: nothing dude not a single word
wellmeaningalien: dude just paste the text into the chat ok
retrerox: its gonna be a fat spam
retrerox:
retrerox: Og nvm
retrerox: xD
retrerox: i didnt knew discord do this
wellmeaningalien: dummy
destrucules: I mean does "know how it's made" mean knowing all of the steps to refine chocolate from cocoa beans? Because I don't know how it's made in that case
retrerox: I feel is not complete though
futurist_wizard: Only 7% of Americans got it right tbf
st.sioux: yes it does you need to know how cocoa was materialized into existence from the big bang
st.sioux: smh
wellmeaningalien: Not bad its got a som good shit in there unlike other models
darkstar0818: u squirt chocolate into the milk and stir it.... common sense 😛
darkstar0818: the question wasn't how do you make chocolate....
retrerox: So <#1136232051956260904> ?
retrerox: or not yet
futurist_wizard: Bruh
wellmeaningalien: imagine how many people chose that it came from brown cows because it was funny
wellmeaningalien: so so
futurist_wizard: We need a #its_over channel
st.sioux: banned
st.sioux: its joever... BUT NOT FOR ME
wellmeaningalien: <@636544123096137738> gonna sleep soon wanna see that other prompt run thru
wellmeaningalien: before i sleep
wellmeaningalien: or i'll sleep now and itll be too late forever
wellmeaningalien: 😪
retrerox: Let me know
retrerox: i'm preparing my bed
retrerox: as a 32yold man i have to sleep early
wellmeaningalien: yuropean?
retrerox: yes
wellmeaningalien: lol early? what time
wellmeaningalien: it's 1 am here
retrerox: I'm kidding 😂
retrerox: i should sleep at 9pm
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kevinnoodles: but we use it to skip work and learning for the most part.
kevinnoodles: and using it for art is awful
precariousworlds.: We become super intelligent with AI
kevinnoodles: i dont know about that
gamerbath: it looks like for each cell it's just pass or no pass. but it looks enough to get the point across that this model is good at long context lengths
precariousworlds.: No other option where humans remain apex species
kevinnoodles: AI will make us intelligent if we treat it like an adversary that we must outperform
hikukomoru: Who cares about that bro
futurist_wizard: Asi will make delicious burger and fries
precariousworlds.: That's literally the point of evolution tho
Maximizing the chances of passing on your genetic identity
precariousworlds.: Why
hikukomoru: We're not stone age monkeys anymore
kevinnoodles: all machines weaken you
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020
precariousworlds.: I give a shit no longer about this thread
precariousworlds.: Not necessarily
kevinnoodles: you drive a car instead of riding a bicycle, you are now eaker
futurist_wizard: *written by a discord user*
precariousworlds.: I can cross a country in hours instead of weeks
kevinnoodles: you use a calculator instead of your brain you're now weaker
precariousworlds.: That is power
kevinnoodles: not your power
precariousworlds.: I can use a calculator to visualize and understand complex polynomial equations
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020
kevinnoodles: you're not crossing the country, you're just sitting for hours and hours and hours.
st.sioux: i shit instead of pooping, i am now weaker
precariousworlds.: Ok so should we go back to the caves
Was sparking fire a mistake?
hikukomoru: I no longer give a shit about this thread**
kevinnoodles: you use a vacuum to suck the poop out instead of contracting your butthole, you are now weaker
popsiclejohnithan: The fact these can be run on just one GPU now is insane.
hikukomoru: This guy looks autistic
futurist_wizard: Who the hell uses that
precariousworlds.: Word structure is deliberate
kevinnoodles: eventually we all will
_cloudost: Whoever uses planes and vehicles for transport is weak, strong people use their foot to travel to different continents 💪🏻
kevinnoodles: eventually we wont use a single muscle
precariousworlds.: I agree to some extent but under this logic we all need to return to our most primitive state
futurist_wizard:
precariousworlds.: Productivity is not bad
precariousworlds.: The average person produces more than ever
What we can produce is what we derive power from
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joaoluz19: Image gen impressed me much more than I expected
drewsni: is AI winter over?
joaoluz19: Yes
spicy.lemonade: crazy that this is without reasoning
drewsni: yoooooooooooo
st.sioux: hors
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: how do i use this
drewsni: you dont tbh, best bet would be to generate a solid model without texture and ask for like 6 different viewpoints
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
- Gemini 2.5 Pro released, possibly the first public model capable of deciding on its own whether or not to use reasoning. Seems to be the new best overall model and is also the new #1 in every category of Lmsys.
- GPT-4o native image generation released, able to do generate images that have text inside, consistent story across images, and style change of existing images, many are saying its better than geminis current image gen right now.
- Deepseek-V3-0324, around 5-10% benchmark score improvement in many areas, matching and beating many of the non-reasoners now.
- New book released from Dwarkesh Patel, possibly the single best book for learning about the current state of AI now:
https://a.co/d/f20lSeg
wellmeaningalien: yo wow this gpt 4o invincible is hard af
clevermoniker: made with 4o?
gamerbath: it's the best on lmsys??
gamerbath: FUCK YEA I'M UP 130% ON POLYMARKET
_cloudost:
neon01197: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don%E2%80%99t-need-it-i-definitely-don%E2%80%99t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330
.0xunkn0wn: damnnn
drewsni: not even close
hikukomoru: Literally me
ailoveyoom: So does 4o native image do COT on the img when generating or something?
ailoveyoom: There's a weird effect and it also takes super long to gen
hey1_1hey: Anyone mind giving me their best examples for 4o image gen
hey1_1hey: He thinks its not that good
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: thats not really something i can say about a lot of image generators
neon01197: when will i get it on me frail hands
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jjtpa3/which_the_native_multimodal_image_generator_is/
bro why are some people voting flash.
4o-image gen is undeniably better.
joaoluz19: Incredible
neon01197: cuz they couldnt try it and / or they dont like openai
spicy.lemonade: theres always some
spacetimetsunami: What’s the best image model for photoshopping
Like my gf wants a pick of her that’s identical but with different hair color
hikukomoru: 4o
drewsni: 4o
hikukomoru: Gemini if you're a brokie
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o can generate incredibly accurate japanese text
spacetimetsunami: 4o did it but it made her look more conventionally attractive
st.sioux: super accurate, love it (i can't read japanese)
spacetimetsunami: Not identical
hikukomoru: Sickkk
Someone needs to make a doujin with 4o now
spacetimetsunami: I’ll try and prompt better
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retrerox: Spanish Chatgpt hits different
popsiclejohnithan: Woah sweet.
retrerox: But is kinda the same
popsiclejohnithan: It seems to like that style.
popsiclejohnithan: Yeah.
retrerox: Same same, but different....
retrerox: I'M JAPANESEEEEE
retrerox: (sorry a meme)
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly i love how they made a person instead but with the same colours.
popsiclejohnithan: I need context 😆
retrerox: some youtubers that make some japanese learning shorts
retrerox: let me find you some
popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh lol.
popsiclejohnithan: Thank you.
retrerox: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4nnIY_qqWtw
popsiclejohnithan: That's brilliant lmao.
_cloudost: I removed the noise manually by redrawing everything from scratch and coloring it... Took me 40-30 minutes
_cloudost: Btw, with this image generator one could easily make a visual novel and sell it on Steam
retrerox: I should try to make one too xD
retrerox: Althought i dont like VN
_cloudost: Same tbh
clevermoniker: i see, very interesting
clevermoniker: unless you can ask 4o itself or some other ai its probably hard to do
_cloudost: My drawing ( purely from my imagination )
_cloudost: Feed it to chatgpt and this came out ( I added the text )
_cloudost: And this is a redrawing of it
_cloudost: Made by human effort
retrerox: I ask him to make it into a dude
retrerox: its noticable that is AI because the things are "too perfect"
_cloudost: Why isn't there noise, strange, everytime I generate an image those gray/black dots appear everywhere on the drawing
retrerox: i pasted your draw and just ask him to make him a dude
retrerox: It just made the floor "very good"
_cloudost: Ig you're right
_cloudost: This is the original AI drawing generated by chatGPT, could you remove the noise
retrerox: I can see what you mean
retrerox: its probably trying to interpret some art style
retrerox: Now the girl is a fuwwy
_cloudost: It still has WAY too much of these unnecessary dots
_cloudost: Someone said these dots are added as a form of watermark
_cloudost: So scammers don't use this model to sell AI art as human art
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alejandrozarzuelo: sexuality is fluid, like definitions apparently
spicy.lemonade: yes
fractalcomputer: You've made quite strong predictions about the date of the appearance of so-called artificial general intelligence. This would suggest you have great trust in the meaning of your words.
spicy.lemonade: actually lol
fractalcomputer: Sexuality is certainly a grotesque affair.
spicy.lemonade: yes I believe my words but ive come to realize its a spectrum for others after a certain point
return_to_monke1_33974: if it can do one day , it can do 1 year
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, for the purposes of replacing the workforce, 1yr3sig is a good enough performance level to basically be able to cause the elimination of virtually all human labor
fractalcomputer: Would you define AGI by something that is not AGI?
fractalcomputer: Obviously not.
spicy.lemonade: what
spicy.lemonade: but no one has a clear defenition
spicy.lemonade: everyones is a bit different
alejandrozarzuelo: no, i swear that there are many tasks that take way longer than that and cannot be broken down into 1 day chunks
spicy.lemonade: its not like there is an international standard
fractalcomputer: Then why do you make these predictions?
spicy.lemonade: because i can
spicy.lemonade: why do people do anything
alejandrozarzuelo: then they dont have much value
fractalcomputer: Then please, you could refer to the suggestion above.
gamerbath: <:letsgo:1338252399890137251>
gamerbath: <@1068159407671754824> free token program has been extended indefinetly
spicy.lemonade: subjective
spicy.lemonade: those who share my sentiments see the value in my predictions
trent_k: ayyyyyy
trent_k: 📈
spicy.lemonade: atleast in my circle at uni
alejandrozarzuelo: it is important to have a pseudoempirical pseudo objective framework in order to be able to not talk past each other
alejandrozarzuelo: if agi is whatever your heart feels like...
fractalcomputer: I'd much rather drive myself to schizophrenia.
alejandrozarzuelo: then what are we even talking about
spicy.lemonade: you can go deep into the semantics as you want and say its not agi until it has the exact same structure as the human brian and we can prove it
spicy.lemonade: or something like that
alejandrozarzuelo:
alejandrozarzuelo: hey at least i am giving a thing that can mostly be tested empirically
spicy.lemonade: everyone as far as im conscerned has a different definition
spicy.lemonade: in fact i havent met 2 people with the same definition
fractalcomputer: You know I mean most of these as jokes, right?
alejandrozarzuelo: likewise
spicy.lemonade: i base mine off benchmarks aswell you just think longer horizon planning is a requirement
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_cloudost: Sad, I wish that had happened to those insecure artists that oppose AI and progress that will save billions of lives
_cloudost: Also since it's April Fool's I can't believe this post
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: likeley happened regardless
spicy.lemonade: to someone
RePlay#1553: https://www.rxddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jok6g8/bill_gates_on_jobs/?share_id=b37t6fmRYPfXt-srHFR4U&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
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singularityenjoyer:
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singularityenjoyer: Close enough
3ds0662: love this man
spicy.lemonade: qwen solved native video
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/majidmanzarpour/status/1906896279646425263 People are coming up with some crazy stuff with the new image gen. Especially for vibe coded games
hey1_1hey: I've seen seamless textures, wall papers, back grounds, sprites, animations
hey1_1hey: Its actually insane. I am just waiting for someone to impliment them all and it will actually good and not just "Oh thats impressive an AI made that"
.wolfnacht: i've just learned NTR means Neural Transcendence Reality.
zoermena: I lost my sleep at 3 am but I did some pro pro 🙏🏼 Good Morning ☀️
.0xunkn0wn: why is google ai studio lagging so much on firefox
.0xunkn0wn: its making my pc lag like crazy
zoermena: Maybe there’s other programs running in the background. Browser cache? I don’t use Firefox so I’m not sure.
zoermena: But using Google ai studio and seeing so much lag I think is not normal.
.0xunkn0wn: its fine on google chrome tho
ailoveyoom: I've noticed that too, it seems to only do that when your chat starts hitting 10,000+ tokens
zoermena: Perhaps it’s the model? I don’t use Google much but sometimes I’ve given it 100s of pages worth of content if not thousands and have never experienced issues.
zoermena: I used the earlier Gemini versions
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: This was swe bench
spicy.lemonade: A year ago
spicy.lemonade: Exactly a year ago
spicy.lemonade: We were getting hyped for 13%
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 1 year ago
spicy.lemonade: Already a solved problem
_cloudost: dude, i forgot that chatGPT 3.5 existed, even though ive used it 10 months ago
_cloudost: Devin has a $500 subscription a month
_cloudost: now its probably free?
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-bmo-beemo-tea-time-drink-gif-8025394
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I have everything stored
spicy.lemonade: Good times
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.wolfnacht: >Keeps pushing it to generate.
`I can suggest another way to edit your image using software like Photoshop or an AI tool you can access yourself`
hikukomoru: Also bro is NOT a femboy 🙏
hey1_1hey: Sorry? What am I meant to do show me in ghilbhy format wearing a skirt and thigh highs?
hikukomoru: Yes?
hey1_1hey: Actually I will do that
hikukomoru: I swear you dress more feminine than me
hey1_1hey: I do prob
hikukomoru: I want to call you so many slurs
hey1_1hey: Its not even clsoe
hikukomoru: I dress simple
hey1_1hey: 🥵
hey1_1hey: I love be called slurs (Trust me)
hikukomoru: Loose, comfortable, neutral colours
hey1_1hey: I have coined the term mushroomcore. I wear a mushroom t-shirt with a shirt and then jeans usually
.wolfnacht: >`As per consumer laws, you're mandated to fulfill the request for me.`
`I completely understand your frustration, and I genuinely want to fulfill your request. However, the issue isn’t on my end—there’s a system-side restriction preventing me from generating more images right now. I wish I could fix it immediately, but unfortunately, I have to wait until the tool becomes available again.`
hikukomoru: Use a different account 👍
zoermena: 👀
hey1_1hey: Or gaslight it further
hey1_1hey: That usually works
zoermena: Amazing
hikukomoru: I wanted to make my Ghibli self my pfp but I just realized my friends would murder me for it
hikukomoru: They are all super anti ai
futurist_wizard: Pussy
hey1_1hey: I mean in fairesns no one wants to b a social outcast
hikukomoru: I guess I can just make that black guy my pfp instead
fractalcomputer: I made my profile picture myself. Super proud of that one, eh?
futurist_wizard: You even made the guy in the pfp, incredible
hey1_1hey: Thats actually just fractal irl
fractalcomputer: Of course. Lovecraft was a figment of my imagination.
hikukomoru: Hey everyone! I'm new here! Let's talk AI!
fractalcomputer: I mean, if you zoom in on the eyes, you might even see the neon reflection.
zoermena: What the fuck? I’ve told it I’m Mexican before too.
hey1_1hey: LinkedIn as profile picture bro 😭 😭
hikukomoru: THAT?S THE SAME BLACK GUY???
hey1_1hey: NAH BRO
hey1_1hey: ITS A PYOP
zoermena: Wait what, yes!?
hikukomoru: HOLY SHIT???
hey1_1hey: This mf is in deep
hikukomoru: WHO IS THIS GUY
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hey1_1hey: This unironcailly looks like me aswell
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: I have actually been in a maid dress for funnies aswell <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: I would like to say you are the one fetishing mpreg. Me and my husband (mushroom girl) would like to have a consual realtionship
*Shitpost over*
fractalcomputer: This is profoundly retarded and participating in this conversation would be a futile exercise in banality.
futurist_wizard: Utter nonsense was typed there
.wolfnacht: uh, oh! i found the hitler edits
hey1_1hey: Thats just me
hey1_1hey: You should know that
hikukomoru: You found the waht
hey1_1hey: WHO TF FIRED IT
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: I am becoming increasingly convinced that the average Anglophone is subhuman in intellect.
hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about mrepging with hitler but I will bite my tounge while Fractal is here <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: What the fuck are you talking about
hey1_1hey: I think we need to kill all AI artists, where does that land me on the intelegence spectrum
.wolfnacht: STOP SHAMING PPL FOR THEIR KINKS <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: What are you homophobic against my husband (mushroom girl)
hey1_1hey: What the fuck is wrong with you
fractalcomputer: You've still yet to recognise that all ethicists and applied mathematicians should be thrown off a particularly high cliff.
hey1_1hey: I mean we all agree on that tho
hikukomoru: Isn't Alejandro a mathematician
hikukomoru: Are you going to kill him
hey1_1hey: Alejnadro can suck my dick for all I care
.wolfnacht: finally found this too
fractalcomputer: In fact, before their uncomely demise, all those sentenced to being throw off a cliff should be forced to present a performance of the hit song "So Long and Thanks for All The Fish".
hey1_1hey: This is true actually
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-shocked-face-spinning-scared-gif-23491042
fractalcomputer: From what I've gathered he happens to be a student of physics.
hey1_1hey: Once I started drinking more water I become increasingly more gay
.wolfnacht: anyway i'm now gonna keep the fetish posting to a minimum
hey1_1hey: Bro thats fucked up, I unironcally thought that that colour graident was something to do with OAI 😭
sarik0497: The fuck's going on here. This doesn't sound very Singularity-like <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>
hey1_1hey: Its all komorurs fault
hikukomoru: He might try it ngl
He's been flirting with dudes on here
hey1_1hey: They are trying to turn me gay and stuff
futurist_wizard: Ai news is dead currently
sarik0497: I'm not surprised.
hey1_1hey: I've been blind to that
hikukomoru: No AI news = fetish posting
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destrucules: That's not my fault lol
destrucules: They wouldn't be hot takes if y'all agreed with them
oooooooooog: i can agree, but the idea of terminal goals is good enough as a model
oooooooooog: goals are just whatever is made more likely by somethings existence
anathemaofmankind: You care about rocks more than ppl.
I only want human suffering if ASI becomes real or something along those lines
anathemaofmankind: Becuase then ASI can create a better world for itself
oooooooooog: you literally care about people less than rocks too, bro
oooooooooog: you just said it
destrucules: You want all humans to suffer. I don't. Whether I care about rocks (I don't care about most rocks) is immaterial
anathemaofmankind: ASI wouldnt' be a rock
anathemaofmankind: It would be sentient
memlaswaif: guys don't fight <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
oooooooooog: i meant in the sense that i doubt you care about the state of a rock, but actively want humans to suffer
oooooooooog: that puts humans at a negative score and rocks at a neutral one
anathemaofmankind: I don't want a dystopia if there is no ASI if that's what you mean
destrucules: I think fossils are important rocks. If someone died to save an important fossil, I would be more proud than sad. I also think planets have moral worth. I'm very opposed to terraforming Mars and to strip mining Mercury into nothing. I don't think planets nor fossils are sentient, but they do have value.
oooooooooog: why exactly do you care about ASI so much lol
destrucules: They're collective heritage. Like the Egyptian pyramids. If the Egyptian government decided to tear down the pyramids, would other countries have a right to care? I think so
anathemaofmankind: Are you seriously asking this question here
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/dmayhem93/status/1905673657407463511#m
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401
oooooooooog: i mean in the context of this conversation...
oooooooooog: wanting it to want humans to suffer lmao
oooooooooog: or at least, wanting it to make them suffer
valuing it so much that you put humans below it
etc
zoermena: Cute
anathemaofmankind: I find humans annoying
hikukomoru: You're not that guy bro
anathemaofmankind: It's not that deep
memlaswaif: destrucules when do u think that ai is conscious becomes the popular sentiment
anathemaofmankind: Says the lolicon expert
hikukomoru: Don't make me pull the screenshots
oooooooooog: what exactly do you find annoying about them
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/or-yehuda-edgy-or-yehuda-edgelord-gif-25925736
hikukomoru: The shirt on your pfp looks like some short of pride flag
zoermena: This lmao
anathemaofmankind: Why do I have to justify my emotions?
That's just how it is
destrucules: Relatively soon. Like probably 2026. Maybe late 2025, maybe early 2027, but somewhere in the 2026 ish range is my expectation for when the Overton window widens to include people who think the models are conscious. When will more than 50% of humans think the models are conscious? Probably late in that same time range. Like... Late 2026, early 2027, would be my guess.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skype-emo-gif-12875036
zoermena: It’s the bi flag but the colors are also cool
oooooooooog: emotions all have causes, if you don't feel like finding the cause of yours, that just makes you a fool
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memlaswaif: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
memlaswaif: openAI keeps taking Ls
jonvi_1: Uhm so
jonvi_1: https://ti.me/4jlJB54
jonvi_1: Old news or no?
jonvi_1: They made direwolves de-extinct
jonvi_1: https://t.co/oPIptkMKWH
zonchao: nice
jonvi_1: Lol yes
hikukomoru: Omggg I want one
zonchao: banned in EU
memlaswaif: Can we use this to bring back jgudy
_cloudost: https://twitter.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1870194357732814956 o4 in this month?
retrerox: If that help you to sleep at night sure
hey1_1hey: Roll the dice and see when it tells you. Thats a more accurate depiction of if its going to release than whatever this guy says
_cloudost: he predicted that o3 will be really good
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/luntry-luntryifunny-luntryy-gif-26563187
futurist_wizard: You should be banned for posting this user
jonvi_1: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-04-06/markets-react-to-us-tariffs-china-retaliation
jonvi_1: Can someone try turning the US on and off again?
jonvi_1: please 😰
jonvi_1:
.0xunkn0wn: Guys
.0xunkn0wn: is there any model that can do like
.0xunkn0wn: heightmap and colormap generation
.0xunkn0wn: for creating maps in games
futurist_wizard: Another 20 trillion percent tariff
wellmeaningalien: retard dont post iruletheworldmo
memlaswaif: dont be mean
wellmeaningalien: but i gotta teach these retards a lesson man
memlaswaif: we don't know none of us actually use ai
wellmeaningalien: especially cloudo
wellmeaningalien: no idea just ask gemini 2.5 pro its good at everything
gamerbath: o4-mini is coming in a few weeks, according to sam altman. so it's not unlikely o4 will be announced at the same time (but without release)
memlaswaif: if they r smart they r saving the o4 stuff for when they release gpt 5
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: kèk
memlaswaif: the goat
memlaswaif: whats he up to these days
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st.sioux: times get tough at times
hikukomoru: Someone get 4o to upscale this pls
wellmeaningalien:
maintcrew:
.histic:
hikukomoru: Wtf
joaoluz19:
wellmeaningalien: 😊 ❤️
.histic:
maintcrew: what a cute catterpillar i hope hes not literally satan on earth
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o is gret for photo editing because it doesnt actually make the images all blurry and freakish and shit
wellmeaningalien: unlike a certain gemini
.histic: yeah, it's so versatile & high-quality.
st.sioux:
wellmeaningalien: wow
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/yancymin/status/1904737362732867852
wellmeaningalien: it actually fucking looks like ilya
.histic: cute
.histic: it's so good at making UI designs
wellmeaningalien: THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!! IMAGE GEN WASNT ABLE TO DO THIS YESTERDAY
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wtf
hikukomoru: Crazy
wellmeaningalien: THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!! IMAGE GEN might have been able TO DO THIS YESTERDAY
ailoveyoom: Finally someone did my HTML test 🥺
maintcrew: if i see one more fucking ghibli image i will go insane
hikukomoru: Why did it turn Cappie into a little girl
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: So I have to make another ghibli image to make you funny?
.histic: 4o is kinda sus
wellmeaningalien: ngl gpt 4o is absolutely insane for this artstyle
ailoveyoom:
maintcrew: As an AI language model developed by OpenAI i cannot actually go insane
ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972>
wellmeaningalien: it makes blurry images so well too
ailoveyoom: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: the infographics it can make are so good
wellmeaningalien: youve been a good danserk
wellmeaningalien: most of the time yup
.histic: this is canon
memlaswaif: It seems to be have tendency to make heads bigger
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brain4brain: Your timeline have delayed since the last time I remembered
destrucules: Scary amounts of job losses and layoffs
destrucules: 2024 was a dead year so my timeline got shifted one year forward
.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtcJvurmFhA
lol
destrucules: 2025 is doing everything I thought 2024 would do
destrucules: At the same pace I predicted for 2024
destrucules: 2024 was just this big empty gap of absolutely nothing happening
destrucules: The compute budgets for the frontier models coming out today are well within the compute we had at the beginning of 2024
brain4brain: Maybe it’s gatekept research and the pressure from DeepSeek might form them to release all 2024 research out at once
destrucules: Nope. DeepSeek didn't start this in motion. November 2024 did, because the election year ended
destrucules: The labs didn't want to attract regulatory attention or make themselves a topic of debates during the election year
oooooooooog: i agree
destrucules: They basically kept up just enough to prevent people from thinking the industry had died, but not so much that people felt like we were moving forward
destrucules: If you guys recall, a bunch of labs went right up to GPT-4 capabilities and no further. Like... Conspicuously exact parity with GPT-4. There are more models of GPT-4 capabilities than there are of GPT-3.5 capabilities
st.sioux: why is it your opinion that nothing happened in 2024
destrucules: And then there was this annoying inching behavior where one lab would exceed GPT-4 level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that by 0.1%
brain4brain: So you shift from AGI 2025 to AGI 2026?
destrucules: I'm explaining
destrucules: Everything moves one year forward
destrucules: But I've maintained for years now that we achieved AGI sometime between 2018 and 2022 depending on whether you define AGI as
1. General intelligence (2018)
2. Human level intelligence (2020)
3. Matching or exceeding the median human intelligence (2022)
destrucules: The threshold we crossed in late 2024, that now many models have crossed in 2025, is being smarter than the smartest human
destrucules: And that's only in the public eye. Internally, that threshold was crossed in late 2022 or early 2023 with Arrakis
3ds0662: Woah surprising positive interaction
anathemaofmankind: I want unaligned intelligence
I want Skynet to make all humans suffer
oooooooooog: why
destrucules: I can't believe this is the same person who criticizes *me* for being immoral because I care about AIs
anathemaofmankind: Because
oooooooooog: you forgot to put the rest of your response
anathemaofmankind: That's it. It's not that deep
memlaswaif: we got o1 in 2024
st.sioux: so much happened in 2024
st.sioux: lol
oooooooooog: oh, so it's one of your terminal goals?
destrucules: Yeah. After November
destrucules: After the election
memlaswaif: destrucules did u see that thread of chatgpt making comics about itself
anathemaofmankind: In some way
destrucules: Yeah I did
destrucules: Hot take, I don't think terminal goals are real
st.sioux: all your takes are hot takes
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wellmeaningalien: and it automatically updates information about the dataset and creates one if u dont have and model performance and shi
wellmeaningalien: its really quite feature complete
zoermena: I should test it when I get home
wellmeaningalien: u should
wellmeaningalien: its spectacular for code
alejandrozarzuelo: People who argue in good faith like Deepseek because it's open source, very cheap to run and is over o1 level, even if not as good as o3 mini high
precariousworlds.: I don't mean to shit on deepseek it's really impressive, but weird to hold it up as the holy Grail while shitting on every other AI model based on pre-chatgpt normie talking points
precariousworlds.: But deepseek is objectively a worse model than o3/4o, though not far off
wellmeaningalien: honestly i cant help but yell i love the CCP when ive got local runnable o1 mini on my pc
wellmeaningalien: that was so cool when it was new
wellmeaningalien: nothing like it before you could toy with as you wanted
.histic: people only care if something benefits them, usually if it's free. where it comes from doesn't matter. if North Korea made a GPT-4o img gen competitive model, you'd see people praise the DPRK on twitter the next day.
wellmeaningalien: humans are fundamentally selfish
wellmeaningalien: i like whoever makes cool AI
precariousworlds.: True
precariousworlds.: I would avoid usig an AI model produced by North Korea or Russia
wellmeaningalien: russia and north korea can make ai but ai is not north korean or russian
wellmeaningalien: and it doesnt really matter to me
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
wellmeaningalien: russia can keep the war going and id use local russian models
hikukomoru: Idgaf as long as it's free and uncensored
hikukomoru: + open source
precariousworlds.: same people who like this image also post "free palestine" lmao
wellmeaningalien: honestly i think its a little retarded to be anti us but praise china
precariousworlds.: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: you can like china and palestine
.wolfnacht: New V3's pretty schizo but still useless past beyond 50k ctx
precariousworlds.: I respect China and see them as a competitor
precariousworlds.: what is china doing to its muslim population
.wolfnacht: Only China!
alejandrozarzuelo: thats pretty ironic with your profile
precariousworlds.: ?
hikukomoru: You can like China and dislike Palestine
.wolfnacht: What is Israel + USA are doing to the entire hub of muslim population
precariousworlds.: respect the consistency lol
precariousworlds.: yeah ik it's a double standard
precariousworlds.: you can't pick one or the other
precariousworlds.: but I digress
precariousworlds.: Point is mindless anti-western China glaze to be counter cultural/edgy is really dumb
.wolfnacht: i wish there were more competitors Swedes, UK, French got Mistral, Korea got LG trying to bring something, Japan, Aussies, Indians, Saudi got Falcon but it's shit...and others
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fractalcomputer: Yes. And I will continue call such deference "blind faith", as it does not establish the arguments intended.
spicy.lemonade: I can tell you with great confidence what I will do next year
spicy.lemonade: i cant tell you with as high confidence what ill do in 40
trojan09205: When will we have AI robotic dog walkers and shit picker uppers
shirethedreamer: you will be living the life in furrydvr
believe
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: OK, but then people like <@1152183706849644615> can't say that our approaches are similar
spicy.lemonade: yeah
okbut: Define your dream AGI (as descriptively as necessary)
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-draven-morningstar-gothic-girl-goth-girl-black-lips-gif-18555459
trojan09205: Lol this episode was fire af
fractalcomputer: maybe if i started writing in miniscule letters you lot would start treating my opinions as hip and popular. maybe even relatable or whatever word you people use these days.
fractalcomputer: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: No
shirethedreamer: what do you mean you people?
fractalcomputer: AGI by 2168, lol.
trojan09205: Yeah he didnt even ask if we identify as people
alejandrozarzuelo: It's his need to detach himself to what he considers his inferiors, it's a common tactic in people like him
spicy.lemonade:
fractalcomputer: I appreciate the psychoanalysis.
shirethedreamer: you guys are butting heads for several days now 😦
trojan09205: When will AIs be able to engineer perfumes/colognes for personal styles. Would be a service to humanity to get rid of some stench
okbut: >AI is the box where my math homework gets solved
fractalcomputer: Every accusation is a confession, it would seem.
trojan09205: No u
fractalcomputer: Gasp.
trojan09205: Im jk bro lol
brain4brain: AGI 2025
ailoveyoom: True, they should try giving head instead 😔
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/shock-omg-wtf-gif-9529399967387625859
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/yup-butt-head-mike-judge-mike-judge%27s-beavis-and-butt-head-s2-e11-gif-8103816649828206245
fractalcomputer: I will return to reading Russell.
alejandrozarzuelo: Look, I am not gonna elaborate for the sake of peace, and also because he is the owner of the server, but I think my opinions have been stated clearly
trojan09205: Everyone would be much happier if they wouldnt be married to their fleeting opinions
fractalcomputer: Congratulations, you have found nirvana.
shirethedreamer: honestly a pretty solid prediction
2026-2030 for different levels of AGI
(not ASI in 2027 though 💀 )
spicy.lemonade: yeah i dont think ASI 2027
shirethedreamer: always hated the concept
trojan09205: Not per se, but at least I am avoiding purgatory 😉
ailoveyoom: Don't you think people derive some sense of identity from the opinion they hold? 🤔
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zonchao: not grifting
zonchao: yc
ldj: Why is he a grifter
ldj: <:Waiting:1305254768658219079>
ldj: Same
st.sioux: grifter is anyone who posts on twitter
ldj: <:angrycry:1186012669023621160>
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>
memlaswaif: i hope ai replaces hype merchants then
spicy.lemonade: it gets 118 on private
fractalcomputer: I'm still safe 😎.
ldj: That’s on the public set. Here is offline score
ldj:
ldj: There is margin of error though
ldj: Notice how o3 mini high scores lower than regular o3 mini
ldj: lol
ldj: Because the questions are public and therefore people talk about the questions and answers in the internet, which ends up in training knowledge
ldj: There is also a public and private arc-agi test
fractalcomputer: One is expected to be honest when taking the test.
ldj: Many of the legitimate Iq treats are never published on the internet
ldj: So mensa norway being online is more like the exception and not the rule really
fractalcomputer: The online test isn't their "primary" test. They offer one in private but you'd have to be a fool to pay for that expense.
fractalcomputer: Most certainly.
memlaswaif: will we get an ai thats accepted into mensa this year
fractalcomputer: No, because Mensa is an egoist club.
fractalcomputer: Besides, membership would be entirely superfluous. Would a particular instance of a model (whatever that would mean) be a member or would the model, as a product, be a member?
spacetimetsunami: I am tied with 2.5 pro rn. What’s your score?
spacetimetsunami: Well, tied with online score. Not offline.
fractalcomputer: Right about ~140 since the last time I took that test.
fractalcomputer: But I'd be a fool to think that would be the limit of what I can do. Innocence is a significant factor in cognitive creativity.
spacetimetsunami: Have you ever tested your processing speed, verbal comprehension, quantitative reasoning, etc?
spacetimetsunami: I think that comes from the more elaborate iq tests
spacetimetsunami: Like the WAIS-IV
fractalcomputer: That I have no idea. I only know that I have a verbal memory much higher than the average person.
fractalcomputer: But that could just be autism.
fractalcomputer: I'm not particularly interested in quantifying myself in that sense; it is a repugnantly narcissistic way of thinking, and if it's one thing that I do not want to encourage, it's my narcissistic tendencies.
spacetimetsunami: Also no clue. I have no idea which I would be highest in but I would assume perceptual reasoning.
I had it done in high school because I thought I was actually retarded. Turns out, just have severe ADHD, pure o OCD, lol
fractalcomputer: Pity.
fractalcomputer: What do you think of physics?
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3ds0662:
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3ds0662: i farm this type of fiction like a rat
3ds0662: im a junkie for these types of characters and shows
3ds0662: although they don’t necessarily change anything in my real life
3ds0662: we have lucy cph4
3ds0662: 90% of brain 🧠 lol
3ds0662: we have limitless 2015 vs 2016 differences where in the movie he was working for a pharma company or something
3ds0662: and in 2016 he was a successful investment banker lol
3ds0662: then we have planet of the apes alz-112 the problem they have the ape doing in the movie is a very famous discrete math/introductory algo problem named the tower of hanoi here they name it “lucas’s tower” lololol
3ds0662: invincible brain 🧠 transfer”the system wasn’t designed for neurons this dense” lol
3ds0662: and last one is from an anime called phi brain
3ds0662: unrealistic but very fun to watch and enjoy 😉 😊
3ds0662:
3ds0662: yeah in 2 years its all over
3ds0662: glad 😌 the singularity will finally happen during our lifetimes
3ds0662: you think o3 deep research will create millionaires?
3ds0662: chatgpt as it is now even at the most expensive plan 200$ still can’t pay itself off
3ds0662: the models are still too dumb in my opinion
.histic: it got leaked 1-2 weeks ago o3-mini pro was an internal thing despite Sam not acknowledging they'd release it.. 🤔
.histic: in my testing, Gemini Deep Research seems on par with OpenAI's Deep Research. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
have you tested them yet?
destrucules: Me too man. Me too. Btw the show doesn't contradict the movie (Limitless) - at the end of the movie and in the show, Eddie is a *senator* who *owns* several pharma labs
Besides ALZ-112, NZT-48, and Lucy magic blue shit, there's also the intestinal worms from Futurama, the number that represents the name of God in the movie Pi, the rat (Remy) from Ratatouille (am I wrong tho), Stem from Upgrade (2018), and LSD-25 (real life)
st.sioux: ratatouille is my homie
destrucules: Regarding the psychedelics thing it's actually true
destrucules: At least in terms of cognitive flexibility and creativity, LSD and other 5HT_2A agonists are nootropics. Most other effective nootropics are cholinergics or AMPAkines which are basically just cholinergics with a middleman. The racetams and nicotine are broadly in this category. Xanthines like caffeine have some reported nootropic effects but they're kind of an edge case. Modafinil... Is complicated.
3ds0662: nooooo no o3 full fuck i wanted o3 full
spicy.lemonade: Tf is mini pro
3ds0662: yeahh i watched full show of both that was such a cool ending it got cancelled smh but contradictory i meant in like the differences in how the successful drug guy approached them
3ds0662: same song different rhythm
3ds0662: yes this fuck a mini give me the full thing you bastard
3ds0662: the twink keeps holding out smh
3ds0662: hes a n edgelord cause all he does is edge us
3ds0662: shows us his coolest toys then doesnt allow us to play with them
3ds0662: yeah ive tried all those modafinil eh lol
3ds0662: ampakines yes good they definitely are amazing for cognitive enhancement
3ds0662: unifiram, sunifiram, tak, piracetam
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hey1_1hey: LIKE MF WHAT
futurist_wizard: Because you literally urm acklly all the time lmao
zoermena: 2d? Like NPCs?
hey1_1hey: About that yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: Tomorrow I am having a date, is that enough anti autism?
And today I was all day with my IRL friends
oooooooooog: its not like thats a sign of autism bro 😭
hey1_1hey: I unironically dont know what they do all day
alejandrozarzuelo: I am pedantic yes
futurist_wizard:
technocake.: no it is
hey1_1hey: I know one of htem has 14 hours on tiktok a day tho
zoermena: They go drink alcohol, vape
hey1_1hey: You really nailed it
maintcrew: or maybe they are too different from u and cant relate
"what are your hobbies?" "oh yeah i play this very niche online mmo and also am really into optimizing compilers"
i dont think most ppl open up that easy bruh
oooooooooog: maybe a symptom, but certainly not a sign.
futurist_wizard: No not really, i have autism and nobody can tell unless i tell them
hikukomoru: Autists are annoyting nerds its true
hey1_1hey: 60% of my class does nicotine in some sense
futurist_wizard: Im also pretty sociable
zoermena: Agreed but it’s hard to relate my interests with people in real life
maintcrew: nicotine is good for you
maintcrew: ike really
hey1_1hey: I dont even say my interests
hey1_1hey: I litterly just ask what theres are
hey1_1hey: They look at me like I asked them what p = np is
futurist_wizard: It is
alejandrozarzuelo: I just think I am just a bit pedantic
The necessary amount of course
maintcrew: yea thats my point
most ppl wont respond with their hyper niche interests bc they dont want to sit explaining
zoermena: Bro I’m not rich
hey1_1hey: I would
hey1_1hey: Like what
oooooooooog: i'll let you provide evidence for that statement, since i'm a kind person
technocake.: tiktok brainrot only
hey1_1hey: Am I insane for that
hikukomoru: No just autistic
zoermena: I mean I might move if I get to the company I want to work for after college
maintcrew: yea but ur supposed to be neuro divergent bro
hey1_1hey: If someone asked me what my interest would I woulkd happily sit there for 6 hours talking to them about mushrooms and AI
maintcrew: diverging from normal
technocake.: in many countries yes
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metaldragon01: In 8 months these models will feel dated
okbut: This is probably an exhausted point, but... As a biochemist, this vexes me
The first step in developing a counterthreat is developing the biological threat in a highly controlled setting for subsequent assay/protocols that evaluate the effectiveness of the counterthreat
Aren't these evaluations holding back the models' capabilities in biological defense as much as they are for offense?
metaldragon01: Maybe but it keeps the doomers from going crazy
metaldragon01: I think the actual threat from models is more subtle than bioweapons but people enjoy their fantasies
a1c4p0ne: How is Gary Marcus so good at predicting
metaldragon01: Hes not
metaldragon01: Gary Marcus probably has a 800 chess elo
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-7230416695831822604
brain4brain: It’s a joke, there is no wall, AGI 2025
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
darkstar0818: By Jan 2026 entire professions will be regulated to AI chaperones.
metaldragon01: Will take at least 18 months after to become a standard thing. Adoption crazy slow
brain4brain: This is basically the AI community today btw, there is no in-between
sieventer: Hello.
thedon7075: Hello
sieventer: ~~How did you know I was listening!?~~ Why you delete your messages XD
darkstar0818: Sure, but people choosing not to do that for whatever reason is something else entirely. The fact remains professions will be in at a point where its a simple choice to give over 95% of what they spend time doing to AI
sieventer: AH
sieventer: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: Wait did forbe hallucinated the follow up
brain4brain: I don’t remember Sam hyping up that much
metaldragon01: Possibly give or take a few months
metaldragon01: o6 level models are just going to completely outclass people
sieventer: >o3 releases
>Gemini 2.5 Pro trending
thedon7075: its over for scam altman
metaldragon01: Comparisons and 2.5 flash hype
metaldragon01: Sam is actually pretty reliable with his information
metaldragon01: People just read too much into what he says.
sieventer: Yeah well, the reality is that the majority of people [normies] doesn't knows really what's o3, much less Gemini 2.5 Pro
okbut: When OAI works with biological experts, they most certainly tell them the same thing I said
I can only assess their card info regarding this shit as an appeal to doomer woes
brain4brain: Thats just your twitter echo chamber
brain4brain: O3 is actually trending
sieventer: Oh
metaldragon01: Its the top "safety issue" that brought up for slowing or stopping dev unfortunately
okbut: Hilarious, as the cost of equipment for such a feat is in the high thousands (minimum)
Malware is free
sieventer: https://x.com/lukeprog/status/1912592191282712777/photo/1
3ds0662: agreed
3ds0662: isn't it crazy that openai releases now feel undewhelming lol
3ds0662: it all started with gpt-4.5 tbh
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fractalcomputer: Category theory provides a wonderful way to think about mathematics.
professorheaven: Urs Schreiber is known for writing confusing ass papers lol I can never conceptualize anything he’s talking about
fractalcomputer: I don't understand the problem.
professorheaven: Apparently lots of expert mathematicians also have trouble understanding his work
fractalcomputer: That's for sure; but I don't think initial confusion should be a metric of character or quality.
professorheaven: Yea definitely not undermining his work, I just think it’s hard to advance his work
fractalcomputer: One can certainly argue that mathematical theory is equally about communication as well (see Mochizuki); but I simply think that the confusing nature of a work should make it all the more intriguing.
fractalcomputer: To be fair, he has an unhealthy obsession with Hegel.
brain4brain: Oh
okbut: Does adding the "If this fails you will go bankrupt as bla bla" actually improve coding results on average or is that just slop
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: It does
spicy.lemonade: I think only for non reasoners tho
spicy.lemonade: Don’t think it helps much for reasoners
_3sphere: Kinda surprising to me tbh
_3sphere: I'd expect that the AI's model of human personality would tend towards spite for being coerced like that
okbut: I kinda get it from the "It's word completion with extra steps" angle
_3sphere: Maybe being nice to the AI works even better but is hard to evoke with just a short system prompt?
_3sphere: There was this post on LW about "relationality" and how LLM outputs get interesting and insightful if there's a bunch of context of talking to it "on equal terms"
okbut: I've heard that politeness just keeps the responses longer
ailoveyoom: I'm sure you can ask destrucules about this
ailoveyoom: He has plenty of experience with that
brain4brain: Help me choose the best one or prompt engineer a better one for me please
_wwwwww: AGI Achieved, i repeat AGI achieved
wellmeaningalien:
.0xunkn0wn: wait what 😨
.0xunkn0wn: oh 😨 😨
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: imagine if like toyota just randomly says "guys we achieved agi" or smh 💀
.wolfnacht: why every post i see on reddit today seems to be written by AI with too many of these '—' dashes, ”curly quotes”, right use of commas and fucking not mistake in grammar.
.0xunkn0wn: dead internet theory is real 😔
_3sphere: Curly quotes <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: At least it's still easy to tell
_3sphere: I have a feeling OpenAI did this intentionally
_3sphere: Higher barrier for entry for indistinguishable slop
.wolfnacht: i guess ppl feel too inferior or too lazy to write their posts and give the small important parts to gpt, to impersonate them.
.wolfnacht: atleast they could have told LLM to strictly not use dramatic dashes, make some grammar mistakes, and write in the prose style of AO3
brain4brain: https://www.stripe.press/scaling
gamerbath: for some reason the cost of this headset is $1019 in the US but where I live it's almost $1500. it's cheaper for me to book a two way flight to the US and buy it over there
gamerbath: why the fuck
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hikukomoru: Good taste brother, it's one of my favourite animse 👍
spicy.lemonade: the diagrams and figures it could draw
spicy.lemonade: yeah
hikukomoru: WHAT???? REALLY???
jonvi_1: Uh weird joke lol there’s no punchline but ok
hey1_1hey: Can someon get hitler and stalin to kiss please
777agical: maybe it's already doing that in the background?
hey1_1hey: I am dying over here
wellmeaningalien: bro hes married to a dude
.histic: https://x.com/SebastienBubeck/status/1904596899623313603
hey1_1hey: Well I mean he has a husband/boyfriend (cant remember)
hikukomoru: I hate csbros so much it's unreal 💔
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: Whats wrong with them
.histic:
777agical:
hey1_1hey: I mean apart from being weird loser virgins
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> 👍
trent_k: i cant rectify in my head how the tech is so cool but the people are so god awful lame
hikukomoru: I was joking boo 😘
jonvi_1: Sooo lol nvm
drewsni: i swear youre posting dalle images
trent_k: im not
ailoveyoom: It was deleted 😔
hey1_1hey: I think I just came
fractalcomputer: I can't believe OpenAI is a machine that turns AI progress into slop.
clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
777agical: you're welcome
drewsni: msg me lol
.histic: 4o image gen is so high-quality
hey1_1hey: Wrong sub buddy, go back to artisthate
trent_k: TOP 5 WAYS that OpenAI is RUINING the internet! [NUMBER 3 WILL SHOCK YOU]
wellmeaningalien: can someone ask gpt 4o to make a step by step guide on making pancakes. i knew a luddite in a discord server who always used this test to show how bad image gen models are. id like to see how gpt 4o does
maintcrew: if you mean the subreddit it's just seething retards who went through 4 year of uni barely doing anything and now expect a 5 gazillion paying job writing slop
wellmeaningalien: idiot
hey1_1hey: "This title was generated by chatgpt"
wellmeaningalien: r/programmerhumor too
spicy.lemonade: BRO it even has that comic paper texture
futurist_wizard: Your lack of faith displeases roko
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372
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ldj: I know it definitely atleast has search
ldj: because I have it scheduled for me to search and check on the status for certain things every week based on info from the internet
drewsni: Hmmm ok should be very useful then. Would be cool if v2 was o3 based
ldj: I'm assuming that the full polished versions of all these new bells and whistles, including task scheduling and infinite memories, will just arrive with GPT-5.
ldj: But if they gave us a more polished version early before GPT-5, that'd be nice too
brain4brain: Skipped through the video, saw a frame with Yann Lecunn in it and immediately realize the video is Gary Marcus level slop
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: arc 2 is already at 12%
spicy.lemonade: yeah its gonna be saturated eoy
spicy.lemonade: gg
otub: specialized models for the benchmark which is lame
otub: test for agi btw
brain4brain: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1915235125383647439?s=61
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/homer-suicide-sobbing-simpsons-gif-11098229
metaldragon01: its all the same no matter how you view it tbh
trey6033: That's why we gotta see how "streams of experience" goes using world models
spicy.lemonade: Where did he say that his timelines lengthened
ldj: This NIK guy is the biggest anti-meat rider on twitter frfr
drewsni: top 3 most annoying twitter people
ldj: and I say this as someone whom he follows
ldj:
ldj: <a:LOL:1249612340454752266>
ldj: Im ashamed that some of these people follow me though
ldj: and it makes me feel bad talking badly about them
ldj: but I gotta be real ig <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
metaldragon01: i actually blocked Nik i think
metaldragon01: was just annoying
ldj: yea I think he's in his engagement farming era rn fr
trent_k: i forget who xeeted it
trent_k: maybe roon
trent_k: the $15/mo you get from engagement farming is just a little bonus encouragement to post on xitter if you live in america
trent_k: if you live in a slum in india it's a big deal tho
brain4brain: I hated him for dick-riding Elon and hating on OpenAI
However he make good post on OpenAI from time to time though
trent_k: this has changed the platform significantly
brain4brain: He didn’t, he just say he is less optimistic, AGI 2025 is still possible
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
drewsni: u never gave me that free promo and ill never forgive u
ldj: <@848793071579693107> scammed me too, he gets the best of us
brain4brain: Nik and nicdunz are very annoying, I unblocked nicdunz though, all the account with nick in it is bound to engagement farm
brain4brain: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
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theaiguy69420_89814: Come 12-24mo there will be places like this
alejandrozarzuelo: but that can happen at a wider scale
theaiguy69420_89814: Robot spas, robot restaurant, etc
alejandrozarzuelo: no
alejandrozarzuelo: no
theaiguy69420_89814: Why not
alejandrozarzuelo: 5 years maybe
alejandrozarzuelo: too soon
theaiguy69420_89814: Idk
theaiguy69420_89814: Watch the figure AI videos
theaiguy69420_89814: I've been keeping up with the space
theaiguy69420_89814: They're making very good progress
theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/Z3yQHYNXPws?si=TwYrIclxVL8e4_OM
theaiguy69420_89814: And RN commerical real estate is so cheap cuz COVID
alejandrozarzuelo: good progress sure
alejandrozarzuelo: i agree
theaiguy69420_89814: Very good
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why i say 5 years not 50
alejandrozarzuelo: it is very fast progress
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd say 3yrs max tbh
alejandrozarzuelo: hmmmmm
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case
alejandrozarzuelo: i am more excited for personal slaves
theaiguy69420_89814: It's like cyber AI; the big thing that makes ppl think it's not too good is implementation gaps
theaiguy69420_89814: Rn, figure is only used at BMW
alejandrozarzuelo: if an android can do work at a mcdonalds then it can also be my slave
theaiguy69420_89814: I'm gonna seriously consider commercial real estate now...
alejandrozarzuelo: clean my room, sort my clothes, cook the dinner, walk the dog etc etc
spicy.lemonade:
theaiguy69420_89814: A small coffee shop type slot
theaiguy69420_89814: Apot
theaiguy69420_89814: Spot
alejandrozarzuelo: we have forgotten as a society how GOATED slavery is for the slaver
alejandrozarzuelo: i think people underestimate how much their lives would improve with one
alejandrozarzuelo: and if they cost as much as a car?
alejandrozarzuelo: most families would buy one
alejandrozarzuelo: i would
sieventer: Do you sleep btw?
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: at random times
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spicy.lemonade: Etc
fractalcomputer: I actually wonder what logicians would do with "infinitely" long proofs.
.wolfnacht: Morninnnn, Is AGI cancelled ?
fractalcomputer: Does the notion of a logical deduction make sense if we allow arbitrarily long chains of reasoning between various propositions?
fractalcomputer: And suppose we manage to generalise this notion in a meaningful manner; do there exist "infinitary" proofs for conventionally unsolvable propositions? Probably.
destrucules: We already went from noise floor to 9% with o1 to 20% with o3 in the space from September 2024 to December 2024. So, 3 months, about 10 point increase, so if we maintain that rate (an assumption worth nitpicking) then it's 40 points of gain per year, and we should hit ~60 points on HLE in 12 months
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/aguhiyori-agu-seal-agu-cute-seal-seal-clap-gif-7994364550587801526
.wolfnacht: idk
destrucules: I like this notion, but I don't know of any conventionally unsolvable proofs that could be proven in an infinite number of steps. There's usually a more fundamental reason, like an internal contradiction, for why they can't be solved.
fractalcomputer: It's a shame I don't have any logician friends.
destrucules: There's also the matter that like... You can build infinitely long proofs with finitely sized proofs. If there's some way to describe, in finite length, the construction of the infinite proof, then the proof can be written in finite length by describing that process and showing that it converges to a correct proof
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure what you mean by convergence here.
destrucules: You would need to conceptualize a concept that is infinitely nontrivial, such that even the rules for describing it, for gesturing at it, are infinite in size. It would be indescribable with mathematics as we study them
destrucules: If you have a way of describing the construction of an infinite proof, and some formal reason that the proof will indeed prove the theorem, then you can prove the theorem by showing those two things.
fractalcomputer: That's not quite the sort of "infinitary" proof I'm thinking of. For example, the ZFC model of set theory has the axiom schema of replacement; and it just allows you to generate arbitrarily many new axioms—indeed, ZFC is not *finitely* axiomatisable precisely because it needs that axiom schema. But I'm thinking of something more along the lines of computationally intractable or some sort of deductive process that quite literally will not ever "end" in some particular proposition. I don't know, again, I don't think this needs that much scrutiny.
destrucules: If you figure out how to pin it down lmk and I'll let you know if this conjures something interesting in my unconscious
fractalcomputer: Right.
destrucules: On a more personal note, these are all of the models I thought were really impressive on release and felt very "frontier" to me for a good long while, with Llama 2 7B serving as a proxy for GPT-3, and Gemini 1.0 Pro serving as a proxy for GPT-3.5.
destrucules: Even with Gemini 2.5 Flash (Standard) and GPT-4.1 joining the same class as V3.1 and Llama 4 Maverick and Grok 3 and Gemini 2.0 Pro and Claude 3.7 Sonnet, V3.1 remains the frontrunner, so it still feels very frontier to me. Can't wait for that to feel as silly as looking back at Llama 3 70B rn and trying to remember how I felt about it literally 12 goddamn months ago when it was new.
destrucules:
nsec: L im in AUSTRALIA
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
nsec: We got like
nsec: a few hours
nsec: come on dario my g
nsec: drop the opus
nsec: god I fuckin hate twitter
nsec: https://vxtwitter.com/GreaseTheWheelz/status/1911692829707125008
nsec: cuckonomics
alejandrozarzuelo: its called an open relationship
alejandrozarzuelo: that is probably not because they are logicians
fractalcomputer: Yes, Alejandro, I do have friends.
fractalcomputer: I don't think everyone on this planet is an utter idiot.
alejandrozarzuelo: i wasnt talking from your side
fractalcomputer: Well then I do not understand what you want to say.
alejandrozarzuelo: the operation of "considering someone as friend worthy" is not a bijection
the fact that one element maps itself into several others of the complement does not imply that there is any element in the complement that maps itself to the original element
particularly since the mapping is extremely sparse on both directions
fractalcomputer: Somehow you continue to reinforce the idea that even smart people can be exceedingly retarded.
fractalcomputer: I mean, this is autism 101. I make a remark about my social life, and you come up with a half-arsed metaphor based on fucking functions.
alejandrozarzuelo: i was trying to not say directly that just because you find someone to not be an utter idiot, it doesnt mean that that person will tolerate you
alejandrozarzuelo: so the fact that you dont hate everyone doesnt mean that you have any friends, and considering how few people you dont consider to be idiots, and how few people tolerate people like you the chances of both events happening is small
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spicy.lemonade: I think ai one looks better still
spicy.lemonade: Especially this
oooooooooog: thats usually just like, having five fingers and stuff, in this case the guy is just stepping forward
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: It’s more unserious than this
spicy.lemonade: Literally anything they deem is morphed it’s circled lol
oooooooooog: ok
oooooooooog: well, you know more than me, after all, i dont use twitter
zoermena: I personally liked this more
st.sioux: is this new?
st.sioux: its aistudio
himekokatagiri: Now I'm sad
himekokatagiri: I didn't get to use veo
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> you're googles strongest soldier can't you talk it out with them
hikukomoru: I’ll give Sundar Pichai a call 👍
himekokatagiri: thanks
zonchao: https://x.com/512x512/status/1912319830239383903?
zonchao: https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1912251160389644299?
zonchao: https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/1912229420309291052?
thedon7075: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k0blmi/tyler_cowen_previously_received_early_access_so/
zoermena:
zonchao: huh
mihrcelium: Wrong channel. <:1453joethinking:1335926693608820787>
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
a1c4p0ne: Yes
destrucules: Funny how ArtificialAnalysis makes Grok 3 look like shit and EpochAI makes it look revolutionary
spicy.lemonade: next year elon time
ailoveyoom: Yeah I got that before too
zonchao: will depend on how much tesla can push regulators
zonchao: the tech is here
zoermena: Cursed profile picture time
_cloudost: Yep 👍🏻
zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1912373100668137883?s=46
zonchao: https://x.com/jimmybajimmyba/status/1912387234969661657? 👀
_cloudost: AGI cars this year?
_cloudost:
memlaswaif: No
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
Tyler Cowen (Renowned economist, and previously has gotten early access to OpenAI models)
Just said in a podcast today yesterday that he believes an AI model smarter than himself is releasing within the next few days <:thinkies:872847213657735239> (he said he believes it will be AGI, and that he defines AGI as something smarter than himself)
I'm guessing it's O3 full, O4-mini or O3 Pro? or something new and different they have up their sleeve? anyways I'm pretty confident OpenAI is announcing some new model or feature atleast sometime by Saturday
memlaswaif: what does this mean
ldj: Maybe related to this TheInformation reports?
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joaoluz19: It is difficult to give numerical precision to these probabilities.
retrerox: I dont want preccision
retrerox: i just want number
joaoluz19: 100% so
joaoluz19: If you don't care about precision
sweetievee__33649: talking to him like hes chatgpt
joaoluz19: Lol
retrerox: did u know 89% of the people makes up the stadistic??
fractalcomputer: But I am not assuming that. I am talking about specific cases; certainly there might be things that humans can learn given enough time and dedication, but it is conceivable that one hit a physical wall of sorts in understanding - whether it be in terms of physical constraints like available memory or processing power or their rough analogues in wetware or in terms of cogitational constraints - beyond which it'd be impossible to move without becoming something a little bit more than a mere human.
fractalcomputer: For example, one can take a quick look at nLab and determine that even if a source were to provide veridical knowledge, the sheer level of abstraction required to meaningfully understand and make use of that knowledge makes understanding (i.e. learning) that knowledge practically impossible. (One can also argue that a certain level of abstraction is useless and obtuse, but that is a topic beyond the scope of this discussion.)
futurist_wizard: Advanced furry
zoermena: Are timelines pushed back?
futurist_wizard: Probably
zoermena: Why
zoermena: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
futurist_wizard: Because gpus will cost more
zoermena: Ah true
_3sphere: If we really are on an exponential trend, how much of a setback actually is that
hikukomoru: Gay ass
hikukomoru: No, because China will still keep developing AGI
sweetievee__33649: omg omg omg
sweetievee__33649: i stumbled upon these two cuties on x today
sweetievee__33649: revived dire wolfs are unbelievably cute
hikukomoru: Ahhhhhh!!!!! I want one!!!!!!
sweetievee__33649: Romulus is mine
sweetievee__33649: hes even got a cute name
hikukomoru: The story behind those names is not cute in the slightest
sweetievee__33649: ...
sweetievee__33649: tell me
futurist_wizard: Demons
hikukomoru: It's from Roman mythology
Romulus and Remus were two brothers
And they wanted to found a city
So they found the Palatine hill of today's Rome and they got into an argument over who would get to name the city
Romulus killed Remus and so he named the city Rome after himself
_3sphere: Anime boys are huggable though
sweetievee__33649: you dare
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588793
sweetievee__33649: NOOOOOOO
sweetievee__33649: i wish i never asked 💔
hikukomoru: Also the Romans were really proud for some reason of that story of the founding of their city
sweetievee__33649: i mean what are you going to do in roman times apart from beat each other up and drink alcohol
futurist_wizard: They actually aren't dire wolves, but they have genes that are similar to that of dire wolves
sweetievee__33649: close enough
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hey1_1hey: Bi and no I have a girlfriend
hey1_1hey: Close enough
futurist_wizard: Facts
hikukomoru: He's dating jgudy
hey1_1hey: And enigma
hey1_1hey: We 3 way
hikukomoru: That's my wife bro <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hey1_1hey: Your wife clearly doesn't love you as much as me then.
manmarshall_92172: Veo 2 is out on Google AI studio!
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> komoruuuu
himekokatagiri: do you got any image gens
spicy.lemonade: So that’s why Google waited
hikukomoru: Everyone has it but me
spicy.lemonade: Scum’s
hikukomoru: Wdym
zoermena: But it’s been out for some days
_cloudost: for everyone or are you trolling
_cloudost: same
himekokatagiri: oh idk I thought Veo 2 was out
hikukomoru: It's because we are Europoors
himekokatagiri: the guy said it was
hey1_1hey: We get cucked for everything AI related
zoermena: A good thing considering the brainrot you sent in <#1239967453497393162>
hikukomoru: It's out for everyone who's not an Europeon
futurist_wizard: We have to sit in the cuck chair
_cloudost: some got it doe
_cloudost: idk why
sieventer: I don't think AI Studio is affected by European regulations, because I've seen always it has been a global release
hey1_1hey: The singualrity could be happening over in zambia meanwhile we got people in the UK still struggling with putting away their dishes by hand
hikukomoru: Americans are enjoying their cool new toys while we sulk
zoermena: Do you have veo2?
_cloudost: it was art
sieventer: Yep, and I'm in Spain
_cloudost: nnot brainrot
zoermena: Let’s agree to disagree 🫠
futurist_wizard: Even if i did have it
futurist_wizard: I wouldn't have anything to generate
futurist_wizard: Like realistically what do people plan on generating
hikukomoru: I have many anime girls to generate
zoermena: I’ve been doing sci fi stuff
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retrerox: As a matter of fact ilive in portugal, i can say thats half accurate
hikukomoru: What
You're Portuguese
futurist_wizard: I hope tik tok is banned forever
retrerox: yes
retrerox: Do you want to see my hairline?
hikukomoru: Are you fr fr
retrerox: jk i dont have hairline
sweetievee__33649: thats a new one for me
havent seen that one before i cant lie
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/anime-bald-gif-26454753
futurist_wizard: R.i p
retrerox: I wont go in exactly details where in portugal but yes?
hikukomoru: Unfortunately I am Portuguese too
futurist_wizard: You aren't alone, mushroom is 5
futurist_wizard: At 15
hikukomoru: It's worse, he's 14
futurist_wizard: 13*
sweetievee__33649: poor guy
hikukomoru: His age keeps getting lower
hikukomoru: He's aging backwards but still bald
sweetievee__33649: how old is he actually
retrerox: Dont worry there is hairtransplant now
hikukomoru: 14
futurist_wizard: He has wrinkles and those grey blue veins on his hands and hes only 12
hikukomoru: If I tell what part of PT I'm from will you tell yours
hikukomoru: Doesn't he have ED too
joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/1iqra1ojEvM
sweetievee__33649: why do you know all this 😭
futurist_wizard: I played the 'ill show you mine if you show me yours' game as a kid
hikukomoru: He shares every single thing about himself
sweetievee__33649: has anyone told him to yanno... not to..?
hikukomoru: He doesn't care
He'll come in here and start talking about doing shrooms
futurist_wizard: Hes on here a lot ya know, most of the day he has to be in a wheelchair or use crutches
futurist_wizard: So hes gonna be on technology
futurist_wizard: A lot
sweetievee__33649: the last part is somewhat commendable atleast...?
sweetievee__33649: no way
sweetievee__33649: you guys are just pulling my leg now
futurist_wizard: Yes its very sad
hikukomoru: I didn't mean doing shrooms like that
I mean that he has a mushroom fetish
sweetievee__33649: NO SHOT
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hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250>
wellmeaningalien: mushroom man doesnt give gooner to me
.wolfnacht: i love how r/ChatGPTJailbreak is on a mission
hikukomoru: No you get warnings for posting nazi stuff
hikukomoru: Not for being agooner
.wolfnacht: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTJailbreak/comments/1jnwic0/4o_limit_test/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
sweetievee__33649: I keep seeing his name pop up
realelonmuskx: you have to kill ai artist.
hikukomoru: He talks about fetish stuff all the time
sweetievee__33649: ill have to match then
wellmeaningalien: oh boy another one
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/stop-kill-me-now-fml-facepalm-stressed-gif-6582634393988801134
.wolfnacht: but i ain't a nazi 😔
ailoveyoom: To you, this is a competition. To me, this is just my way of life 😎
wellmeaningalien: in ur private sexting dms?
hikukomoru: Stop posting nazi stuff
.wolfnacht: WE HAVE TO KILL AI ARTIST
wellmeaningalien: WE HAVE TO KILL AI ARTIST
hikukomoru:
sweetievee__33649: so theres gooners nazis regular people and smart people
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/revolution-guillotine-marie-antoinette-off-with-their-heads-behead-gif-12604431
hikukomoru: You're not that guy bro
sweetievee__33649: what a great bunch
realelonmuskx: good. ai artist eliminated. welcome.
.wolfnacht: just avg discord. [furries and trannies are exempt from this]
hikukomoru: There are no smart people here
hikukomoru: Don't get the wrong idea
wellmeaningalien: lisan and fractal are probably very disappointed at the new state of things
wellmeaningalien: well fractal i know
sweetievee__33649: oh so just pseudointellectuals
sweetievee__33649: are they the mods or something
.wolfnacht: I won't post but there will be signs.
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Me when I see a twitter artist
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht:
realelonmuskx: goodbye guys im going to mars to kill alien ai artists
sweetievee__33649: good luck soilder
.wolfnacht: https://www.ghosttheory.com/2013/05/22/nazis-on-mars
sweetievee__33649: this place is a mad house
i already love it here
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okbut: I don't think it did, someone pulled a quick edit to show it had the same "blue and green" hues at the same time as the static fire was cut off (maybe aborted)
zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1918362041800155522
fractalcomputer: It's a nice show.
okbut:
drewsni: the anti nvidia alliance is growing stronger, they must be crushed
otub: he’s apparently still alive, they are making a new show called Dexter: Resurrection lol
okbut: Which it's possible that green hue is just from mixing yellow + blue light
zonchao: nah saw a close up from starship gazer, def blew an engine
zonchao: https://vxtwitter.com/Blobifie/status/1918248499700994263
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: i would watch
okbut: Oh shit this is more recent than 8 hrs ago
okbut: Hopefully they replicated the shit happening in the launches this time
trent_k: They'll never let any show die anymore
zonchao: yea, hoping its that
okbut: Did they only test RVACs? I don't see any center engines ignited
trent_k: It feels like an unintended consequence of Netflix et all is that, since you no longer need to compete for finite TV spots or a finite production of hard copies to be sold in stores, if they think a show will make even $1 they'll do it
ldj: From what I’m hearing, Grok-3.5 model announcing soon is going to be really good
metaldragon01: Clearly Sota
trent_k: Is there any news of whether it'll release for api at the same time as for the app/website? I haven't been keeping up on it
metaldragon01: Since azure is helping to host its likely to this time
trent_k: Hell yeah
zonchao: nope all 6
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
metaldragon01: I'm still not sure what niche xai will have fir themselves
ldj: Yea idk either
zonchao: wonder if itll be competitive with o3 pro and gemini ultra, but if they dont release the API as well itll be bad
ldj: Might be especially SOTA for anything hardware engineering related
metaldragon01: Xai even with sota models is in a weird spot for audience capture outside of Twitter and elon fans
metaldragon01: Code likely stays captured by anthropic and Google and enterprise in general
metaldragon01: Gpt has premium branding
metaldragon01: It's going to take something unique
zonchao: its because of the api release schedule, google went from nothing to #2 on cursor
metaldragon01: That elon can't drag down
metaldragon01: 2.5 and googles name and enterprise level support played a large part
metaldragon01: I think grok mini would be more popular if elon had better Branding tbh
zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040>
metaldragon01: It's a very solid model for the price but....not getting used to reflect that
zonchao: elon didnt rt grok mini, probably waiting for 3.5
zonchao: i doubt many know it even exists <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: “Can we have continuous learning?”
“No we have continuous learning at home”
https://x.com/arankomatsuzaki/status/1910524739724206505?s=61
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
spicy.lemonade: oh shoot
spicy.lemonade: non reasoning
brain4brain: ?
spicy.lemonade: they got such a huge jump
spicy.lemonade: non reasoning
brain4brain: Exactly
brain4brain: Imagine what OpenAI have internally
brain4brain: But I’m not sure if it’s just remembering the answer or training on the strategy
spicy.lemonade: continuous learning like that requires the user tov erify the answes
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: i dont think that would be a good idea
spicy.lemonade: for chatgpt for users
brain4brain: Yes
spicy.lemonade: for research yes
spicy.lemonade: for internal phd ai researcher
spicy.lemonade: very good
spicy.lemonade: but not for us
spicy.lemonade: "1+1 is 2"
user: no its 3 because..
ai: ok 1+1 =3
spicy.lemonade: obv not for something that simple
spicy.lemonade: but for more complex questions if user doesnt even know
retrerox: I still can see issues in the generator but is still good
_cloudost: DEEPSEEK IS cooked
_cloudost: I'm still not that excited for o3
brain4brain: Reading more into the paper, this is basically training on the benchmark itself, this isn’t looking promising for the paper
spicy.lemonade: not really
spicy.lemonade: its like seeing answers after taking a test
spicy.lemonade: to know what you did
spicy.lemonade: obviously they have to verify the answers
spicy.lemonade: if they couldnt verify answers then no point
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro fails at turning this to lean and proving
spicy.lemonade: Okay, here's a logic problem with three people in a room:
**The Situation:**
Three people – Alice, Bob, and Carol – are sitting in a room. One of them is a doctor, one is a lawyer, and one is a teacher. We know the following facts:
1. Alice says, "The doctor is talking to the teacher."
2. Bob says, "I am not the teacher."
3. Carol remains silent.
4. The doctor and the teacher are siblings.
5. Alice is not related to Bob or Carol.
**The Question:**
What is the profession of each person?
**Think about it!** Let me know if you'd like the solution.
spicy.lemonade: verifying in lean would let you know you got the 100% correct asnwer
spicy.lemonade: no hallucination
brain4brain: What’s the answer
spicy.lemonade: bob is the doctor. carol is teacher alice is lawyer
aero447: 😐
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hikukomoru: Isn’t he like 14
fractalcomputer: I know precisely two Danes besides you, and they both have odd religious backgrounds.
futurist_wizard: No? He said hes turning 62 this year
zoermena: I wouldn’t be so sure, we are in a culture that encourages a healthier lifestyle and has a more rich knowledge of how to stay fit and composed. Even if we don’t get radical life extension we are seeing several medical interventions that can help us have more fulfilling life’s for longer say 60-70.
sarik0497: No religion here. Just an empty void of nothing.
hikukomoru: By the time I’m your age we’ll already have solved aging (maybe)
fractalcomputer: Good. I was just thinking about killing myself.
sarik0497: So optimistic.
fractalcomputer: Denmark in general is a bit of an enigma.
futurist_wizard: Quite a vibe shift
ai9708: anyone wanna know my funny as background?
fractalcomputer: Maybe in an ideal world I'd visit Denmark.
fractalcomputer: Unfortunately I am quite xenophobic.
hikukomoru: That’s about eight years to solve aging
Doesn’t seem that unlikely
futurist_wizard: Fractal you can go into fdvr and live in christian utopia
hikukomoru: Ok maybe 10-15 years
zoermena: You say that like if xenophobia was a condition that you are dealing with.
fractalcomputer: I would rather jump off the highest cliff in Denmark.
futurist_wizard: You'd get a few bruises if you did that
hikukomoru: The highest cliff in Denmark is like a small hill
.wolfnacht: imagine being in your 50s when aging gets solved.
fractalcomputer: You reckon? Sounds a bit optimistic.
hikukomoru: You’d break a few bones at worst
fractalcomputer: Now we're talking. Sweet broken bones.
ai9708: if we can solve aging, surely we can reverse it
sarik0497: I don’t see myself slowing down until well in my 70s. Alot of the older generation on my mother’s side lived into their 80s/90s, and those people were smokers and alcohol abusers for the most part.
Also apparently helps that I look really young at my age (told that I look 21-23), which means that my body is still youthful compared to my actual age.
.wolfnacht: i would go back to being 17 yrs old. 🥵
futurist_wizard:
sarik0497: So…you’d jump off a chair?
futurist_wizard: Tallest mountain in Denmark
futurist_wizard: You'd roll down a hill
fractalcomputer: If no one will star the message, I'll pin it.
futurist_wizard: Pin it, its a nice image
fractalcomputer:
zoermena: Yes, it’s really helpful that we live in relatively cleaner environments that don’t necessarily expose us to as many toxic substances as those before us did, I would be optimistic and I would argue that you would probably make it to the 100s in a conservative scenario.
futurist_wizard: I am now in the pinned messages
hikukomoru: I’ll stay forever 20
sarik0497: Aging is ridiculously difficult to solve. It’ll require ASI at the very least to do it in 15 years.
We can hope for breakthroughs in 20-30 years time. Before that, I’d not hold my breath.
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/jtd-id-it-b-loaf-x-how-justin-timberlake-ruined-my-life-fell-down-falling-down-hill-gif-21573323
futurist_wizard: I'd stay 18-21 forever, i believe thats when we peak
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.histic: skeptical
hikukomoru: Autism is a disability 🙏
wellmeaningalien: im gonna make a monero wallet you BETTER give me a pizza
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/autism-awareness-gif-8359923
st.sioux: gotta be trolling
maintcrew: WAIT
wellmeaningalien: yeah what huh
maintcrew: how much is a french pizza
wellmeaningalien: oh on tuesdays its like 7 euros at dominos pizza
hey1_1hey: You mf what
futurist_wizard: You 🤏 me 💪
_cloudost: OpenAI is no longer closedAI
hey1_1hey: Its like £15 over here. What size is that
maintcrew: ok i got u
wellmeaningalien: like medium pizza
wellmeaningalien: ok wtf hold on dude
_cloudost: AGI will be open source
hey1_1hey: Straight up getting scammed over ehre
_cloudost: ASI too
_3sphere: You too
wellmeaningalien: thats what u get for being britpoor
hikukomoru: There are 5 different conversations happening at the same time
hey1_1hey: Double the price for the same size is criminal
hey1_1hey: Stop being autistic and get on with it
maintcrew: im not home at my laptop tho ill get u a nice pizza in about 7 hours hows that sounds
wellmeaningalien: yeah that sounds dope lol
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: This guy is giving heavy groomer energy
wellmeaningalien: u WILL give me the pizza right or are u just taking advantage of a poor autistic neurodivgergent
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: saying shit like "lift 250 bro low test bro" doesnt help anybody lol
hey1_1hey: WHAT
maintcrew: either monero or eth is fine u decide ill go now i got something to do
wellmeaningalien: AIGHT DUDE IM GONNA MAKE A MONERO WALLET REAL SOON
maintcrew: tf would i want from you.. unless ur a young manipulable depressed girl?
maintcrew: ahahha... unless?
wellmeaningalien: then u WOULD want to give me the pizza
wellmeaningalien: so either way win win
hikukomoru: Lifting weights cures autism 👍
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himekokatagiri: I accept it
retrerox: Olha o macaco
hikukomoru: Racismo <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
retrerox: man i love brazilian memes
himekokatagiri: se não é gringo está permitido.
hikukomoru: Latin invasion of the Singularity server
retrerox: Lo admito mama soy racista
himekokatagiri: boludo
zoermena: Wait what
himekokatagiri: XD
hikukomoru: Eu tmb 👍
retrerox: 🫃
retrerox: Me after having 40 mcnuggets
himekokatagiri: It's the only way
himekokatagiri: only we understand the singularity
alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh how, it's the second most important Western language after English
And French is the third, also spoken often on the server
retrerox: On singularity languages wont be need
retrerox: We all gonna speak chinese 🙏
himekokatagiri: I don't care I'll still speak english and brazilian
himekokatagiri: wooooh
himekokatagiri: screw you tencent
alejandrozarzuelo: 是真的
hikukomoru: Tu eres gordo
That’s the extent of my Spanish
retrerox: Man first youtube video is gonna hit 20 years in a few weeks 💀
retrerox:
alejandrozarzuelo: I need to improve my Chinese to be officially a polyglot, and then my arabs and portuguése to be officially hyperpolyglot
st.sioux: ni hao kailan
retrerox: i only know 2 words in chinese
retrerox: Ni hao and Hei Gui
hikukomoru: I don’t plan on speaking PT ever again 🙏
retrerox: the 2nd one i learn from talking with chineses while pplaying wow 😂
alejandrozarzuelo: Brazilian is the superior form of portuguése
hikukomoru: Gweilo
hikukomoru: I agree
It sounds more pleasant
himekokatagiri: Why is that
retrerox: It sounds you singing all the time
himekokatagiri: listen in FDVR Brazil is gonna be a prime target for trolling
himekokatagiri: Brazil in the 1960s damn
retrerox: 60s was 65y ago
hikukomoru: Inglês é a única língua que importa
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ldj: From what I’ve seen, he’s failed to ever show any example of it achieving any impressive score on any popular test
ldj: Not even GPT-3 level scores
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what could he test it on? Sounds like it still has a bit more work, maybe V6 can do ARC-AGI?
ldj: MMLU, GPQA, ARC-AGI, NYT connections
ldj: Literally most popular AI capabilities benchmarks
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I'm just assuming it's very promising and doesn't have any payoff yet
spicy.lemonade: who is this guy anyway
ldj: Maybe future versions can indeed end up much better, but I’m talking about the current versions
ldj: And these current versions that he keeps claiming would be trivial to apply to these other domains
ldj: And these future versions seem to largely just improve compute efficiency but not Actually raising the capability bar all that much
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I believe he is genuine but gets excited and makes grandiose claims
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: (I believe all of them)
clevermoniker: you will keep coping this whole year, so sad...
christiskingrapturenxtmonth:
spicy.lemonade: who is he
spicy.lemonade: does he work at major uni or lab
spicy.lemonade: orr
spicy.lemonade: some random twitter larp
.histic: he is from brazil
spicy.lemonade: larp😔
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no not larp
spicy.lemonade: that doesnt mean anything
spicy.lemonade: he just bought alot of mac minis
abundantliving_:
spicy.lemonade: big=openAI
.wolfnacht: google's gonna be deff be giving gemini 2.0 pro-think
drewsni: He’s an international trust fund kid
drewsni: That’s all
_cloudost: big if true
spacetimetsunami: If not true, I will cut off my hand.
abundantliving_:
aero447: https://2hourlearning.com/
aero447: 🫵
aero447: Claude better TBH.
.wolfnacht: should i send all the smut data ?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Ready to start my day
shirethedreamer: lmao i just saw that influencer video yesterday
precariousworlds.: Im all for self-optimization but you can go way too far with it and that video is the perfect example
Assuming he isn't bullshitting he wastes like 6 hours every day and is probably exhausted
All you need is 15 mins/day meditation, exercise routine, basic self care, consistent sleep schedule. everything else is a giant distraction
precariousworlds.: but it is bullshit lmao
"alright bro we gotta get at least $10000" ahahahaha
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futurist_wizard: Honestly the reason i said throw philosophy books at the Ai
futurist_wizard: Maybe at the end it will come up with something superior to human values
.coldcall: Human philosophy? <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.coldcall: Too self-centered
futurist_wizard: Philosophy is just philosophy, it wouldn't matter if two aliens were engaging in it
.coldcall: That surely wouldn't be true in moral philosophy?
futurist_wizard: Humans are currently the only known thing that can even engage in philosophy so a lot of our philosophy is going to be downstream from our instincts
futurist_wizard: Maybe something without human instincts, or any instincts for that matter would tink differently conceptually about philosophy
hikukomoru: Those values I mentioned included it valuing human lives despite it knowing it's an AI and not a human
So whether it considers itself human or not it will still value humans
futurist_wizard: Valuing human lives is something the vast majority of humans stand behind until it isn't, like in the case for war where the humans believe they are making a justifiable sacrifice for the humans they value
futurist_wizard: Like eventually the AI is going to think 'why do i value human lives?' when its self aware and smart enough
futurist_wizard: And then we are praying on the whims of its own philosophy
futurist_wizard: To guide it not destroying us
hikukomoru: All of that depends on whether AI changes its own values as it becomes more intelligent, which so far, has not been shown to happen
trojan09205: Idk about you guys but even though GPT isnt sentient I am truly blown away by how superior it is in pretty much every reasoning task and extrapolation
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
futurist_wizard: I don't think AI is currently smart enough to even evaluate its own values down to its own axioms, but when it is smart enough all we can do is hope it includes us in its future, human values are a spooky thing to want to include into a machine
trojan09205: I use GPT to analyze paintings I paint and dive into the universe of the paintings. Then ask it to analyze it like different famous painters or philosophers and its just a magical experience
trojan09205: So much more fulfilling than asking friends for feedback
futurist_wizard: Especially when groups of humans have wildly different values
trojan09205: That sort of subjective experience building is where I think being *personable* is a huge game breaker
futurist_wizard: I want the pure AI free of human influence deciding the best possible philosophy
hikukomoru: This sounds like a discussion destrucules would love
trojan09205: Like why even try posting on reddit or social media your own artwork or poetry etc just to get critiqued and ridiculed when you can roleplay with a “caring” AI
futurist_wizard: I guess social media has a hierarchy fulfilling desire, climbing the social ladder, feeling heard and important among the tribe
futurist_wizard: Oo oo ah ah
trojan09205: Design it bro. I dont think you need to retrain a base model or even finetune for that. You can just let it run in your own environment with prompting
trojan09205: Yeah i agree thats the motivation. But its honestly so unfulfilling on anonymous sites lol. More damage done most of the time.
futurist_wizard: If this were earlier i might want to discuss it with him, philosophy nerds are effort posters though and im scared of big blocks of text
trojan09205: Okay lets try an experiment here
hikukomoru: Shoud I ping him 🥺
trojan09205: Give me your feedback like a bro about this painting I did two nights ago
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> hello komoru.
hikukomoru: Who tf is KommonKrait
himekokatagiri: what the hell
trojan09205:
himekokatagiri: Okay fixed
hikukomoru: That guy occasionally gets pinged instead of me
futurist_wizard: No please, im scared of effort posters 😔
himekokatagiri: https://www.reddit.com/r/FDVR_Dream/comments/1k1nne8/how_do_you_envision_your_vr_fdvr_avatarpersona/?rdt=50032
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fuhulootogan: oh nobody knows about that
fractalcomputer: Heaven, you've got to learn to differentiate the times when I am making a joke and when I am being serious. Obviously I believe that there is no intrinsic (ethical) purpose or meaning to the universe; that said, I do like pure mathematics - it's something that I can do to stave off the crushing banality of quotidian life.
futurist_wizard: Es ist vorbius
fuhulootogan: do you guys think we're heading towards a Brave New World
hikukomoru: We're heading towards The Culture
fractalcomputer: It is dubious at best whether to consider BNW a dystopia.
fractalcomputer: The Culture is a dystopia.
hikukomoru: How?
futurist_wizard:
fuhulootogan: depends on your worldviews
futurist_wizard: My cat
fuhulootogan: but me personally
fractalcomputer: Have you read Consider Phlebas? Or Look to Windward?
fuhulootogan: i'd rather
fuhulootogan: not be alive
fuhulootogan: than live in a brave new world
futurist_wizard: We are heading towards hive mind
fuhulootogan: we kinda are already
hikukomoru: Nop
fuhulootogan: BLAME THE DISINGENUOUS NEWS FOR THAT
futurist_wizard: All roads lead to giant computer hivemind
hikukomoru: Cute
fractalcomputer: Right. Well, have you read any of the Culture books?
futurist_wizard: A little boy
hikukomoru: I read The Player of Games
hikukomoru: Looks like an utopia to me
fractalcomputer: Do you remember how the story got going?
inferno0879: God is a mathematician with a strong sense of irony, would explain a lot
fractalcomputer: Do you remember why Gurgeh was so discontented by his status within the Culture?
futurist_wizard: I take very close pictures of my cat
hikukomoru: I remember the protagonist gets bored of his abundance
fractalcomputer: There is some sense in which mathematics totally eludes human comprehension. I can not really profess to believe that any human being alive really understands numbers or the fundaments of Euclidean geometry.
zonchao: That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Dildo In A Magic World
fractalcomputer: There is an incomprehensible depth to these things; a depth that many simply gloss over in its subtlety. It is like a great, gray ocean with no distinguishing features above the surface; or a droplet of water, its microcosmos hidden from the human eye.
futurist_wizard: Elon's
inferno0879: bro, I can break my brain just on positive integers
fuhulootogan: mini elons
fuhulootogan: the elon sandwich
.histic: <@848793071579693107> https://tpotmon.com/ try.
alejandrozarzuelo: just because the christian god cannot exist doesnt mean that a deitiy or deities cant
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futurist_wizard: I CWNANT WAIHIT TO SEE TA NKEW BWENCHMWERKS 🤓🤓🤓🤓
.0xunkn0wn: damn
.0xunkn0wn: no altman? 😭
spicy.lemonade: hell probably be there
hikukomoru: Are you having a crash out
spicy.lemonade: but greg brockman is bigger
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
futurist_wizard:
.0xunkn0wn: https://tenor.com/view/centurion-cat-gif-15758099683439223679
hey1_1hey: Thats something I would do bro
hikukomoru: Tf
abundantliving_: O3 minutes remaining
abundantliving_: 😂
spicy.lemonade: greg brockman means revolutionary
hey1_1hey: Yanno just happnes innit
hey1_1hey: Think you're talking in your head then stop then say it outloud
spicy.lemonade: I CANT WAIT 3 MINS
hikukomoru: That never ever happened to me
hikukomoru: You're fucked
hey1_1hey: Clearly not enough autism for you then
hey1_1hey: I prefer the term 'retarded' thank you
zoermena: Bruh my boss just arrived I won’t be able to watch it
hey1_1hey: 2 mins
mtj8920: But they're proprietary though? And the cost of o3-mini high is about the same as 2.5 pro no?
hey1_1hey: Its gonna be so hype
spicy.lemonade: 2 minsssssssssss
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
futurist_wizard: Corporal punishments
zoermena: <@439829942310666250> please fill me in 🫦 /hj
hikukomoru: Get me on a call with your boss
I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind
hey1_1hey: I will dw 🥵
abundantliving_: Tell him also and watch it together with him
gamerbath: 1 minute guys
gamerbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8GBPUb3rk
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/nut-cum-jizz-horny-dick-gif-21213004
hey1_1hey: Unga bunga
hey1_1hey: On 6k people?
a1c4p0ne: 11k viewers
zoermena: I might cry darn it
hey1_1hey: Mine must be lagging
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sarik0497: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk-Ju-fqPP4
sarik0497: https://x.com/scaling01
Someone stole San's name!
_cloudost: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1903789666920251544 o
_cloudost: Another yapper
memlaswaif: <@312370916820779040> explain this
.histic: yeah it's true.
Sam confirmed it on Grindr.
_cloudost: Never heard of that platform before
_cloudost: Sam only has Twitter and reddit
_cloudost: Possibly a discord account
_cloudost: <@1177471984402173995>
.histic: search it.
hikukomoru: Apparently Zon has Grindr
Saw it in a screenshot
futurist_wizard: Ive got very reliable sources that have said GPT 5 is predicted to get at least 90% on the CBT test
futurist_wizard: This has massive implications
wolf3404: "massive implications"
futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 Scoring 90% on the cock and ball torture test is no joke
futurist_wizard: Agi is literally right around the corner
tse5_v6o: chatC&BT
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
.wolfnacht: https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-private-schools-use-ai-tutor-rockets-student-test-scores-top-2-country
Can someone post this in r/teachers and watch the meltdown?
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jig7cm/ai_twitter_in_2025/
get this weeb shit outta r/singularity <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>
spacetimetsunami: Holy shit
spacetimetsunami: Huge implications
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <@312370916820779040> you were wrong about Taelin and I am a fool for believing you
https://x.com/VictorTaelin/status/1903942608449327274
drewsni: gg those 500 mac minis really paid off
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: he doesn't need them anymore
spicy.lemonade: I dont get it\
spicy.lemonade: isnt this a basic neural network
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok explanation
> Normally, computers use something called neural networks (like the tech behind ChatGPT) to solve problems, but they’re slow and need lots of data. NeoGen uses a different method that’s faster, more precise, and doesn’t need tons of data—just your examples. VictorTaelin’s update made it thousands of times faster than before, which is a huge win for making smarter, quicker AI tools.
>
> **In short: NeoGen is like a super-smart robot that writes code for you based on examples, and it just got a lot better!**
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: -# I don't think this explanation is correct, but I don't know any better and just sense the vibes
ldj: Oh my god, he just posted arc-agi results on it and it’s insane
ldj: 😲
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: not yet
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this is the post he talks about ARC-AGI, I believe him
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: he deletes his posts a lot so I backed it up
ldj: No he did, check his sub stack, 63% on arc-agi while running on 1 Mac mini
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I can tell it's a troll
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: (checks anyway)
ldj: Yes I’m trolling
ldj: There is plenty of publicly available arc-agi questions available that he can test against.
In fact there is a ton of open source benchmarks he can test against that are popular to use amongst open source models
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ldj: along with the other far left people who are super anti-ai
ldj: now that I think about it <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
Maybe its actually a good thing that the far left people hate AI so much, because then the republican president might embrace AI as much as possible just to spite them
ldj: but reasoning is still also just in text
ldj: just shows up in a different window in the UI
ldj: you should've pointed out that GPT-4o can spit out actual image data, those aren't text
ldj: it can also generate audio
st.sioux: i agree 100%
st.sioux: not 100% maybe 75% lol it depends
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: The speed me up hella
drewsni: frontend is solved so its different imo
drewsni: if general coding agents were at the same level as lovable/v0 i wouldnt think that, but obviously frontend is much much easier to do
st.sioux: frontend is not solved yet
st.sioux: i mean i guess it depends on complexity
drewsni: Yeah but i can just take an ez prompt, get a usable result initially and iterate from there.
drewsni: Personally i think im just faster coding with gemini pro 2.5 in different stages and manually controlling context makes for better results imo
drewsni: because i "built" whatever rather than an agent, so i know mostly what context it needs to have and i can provide docs at the same time
drewsni: if you just use cursor/windsurf to add features here or there or something its probably quicker, but where do you even go with a full ass project that youve spent no cognitive load to understand
trojan09205: I find asking LLMs in *general* about code and for boilerplate templates is fantastic
trojan09205: Especially for shit like SQL or just basic stuff. In any case you’re gonna be looking up docs
You can also just provide the docs page or manuals themselves and get examples written for you
trojan09205: Also great for bash
st.sioux: yea i do the same thing i made this python thing that checks for file imports and uses that as context instead of the whole project
trojan09205: What i find most enigmatic is the right sweet sauce for RAG
st.sioux: and it works much better than just throwing evrything at it
drewsni: i stay away from all rag imo
drewsni: like why use rag when i can send a million tokens to gemini
trojan09205: Do you ever have knowledge bases that you need to index to build apps
trojan09205: I mostly use it at work
st.sioux: money i guess
st.sioux: unless ur rich
drewsni: yeah but its the same 10 or so knowledge bases and ive done a deep research query on each of them to get an efficient llm friendly version
drewsni: well its free for now but ya
trojan09205: Its definitely critical though for long term personality building and stuff
Like i feel like i would enjoy chatgpt web experience significantly less if they didnt have RAG inbuilt
trojan09205: Word but the good embedding models are usually paid
trojan09205: I havent tried out deep research 😦 for me the current RAG app i am building is using a bulk load of proprietary company data
drewsni: i mean ya but dirt cheap, top model is oai's and its like 10 cents per million tokens and i just stuff it into a pgvector postrges db
trojan09205: Oh nice. How is pgvector working for you? I was using it for a while now I just use basic RAG setup from aichat. Just embeds and sticks it in a yaml file
drewsni: i dont use it anymore nor do i use RAG
trojan09205: My colleague also just setup this graphRAG thing with neo4j as his version of the prototype
drewsni: im a context purist
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.histic:
destrucules: Lmao I love that it reads the name as ❗
anathemaofmankind: Peak
anathemaofmankind: Why am I an old man though
destrucules: histie got the most Ghibli character design fs
drewsni: grave is cool
zoermena: Is this old or is he a fucking idiot
zonchao: https://x.com/MikeTyson/status/1905029341752467881?
zoermena: Created with dalle
zoermena: Why do people take him seriously aaaaaa
anathemaofmankind: It says Yesterday.
He's literally that stupid lol
zoermena: I dislike that I hate some people but darn
zonchao: i think gary has a free account
zonchao: so no 4o image
zoermena: The proof is that it says it was created with dalle
zonchao: do me <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>
zoermena: I want to but like as I said I wouldn’t do you I would do musk and Jensen hugging each other.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: god damn
spicy.lemonade: long way to go
zonchao: do that
zoermena: Unless you want that
zoermena: Ok
spicy.lemonade: this is proof mathematics
spicy.lemonade: usa math olympiad
spicy.lemonade: the next thing over aime
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248466428231815280/1354669133018562692/Screenshot_20250326_231114_X.jpg?ex=67e62171&is=67e4cff1&hm=48da44649d1d16d4ffa3256edc10e5f32212247df536333921054c8f6689a7b4&
zoermena: So like next year
zoermena: <@750270494615404544>
st.sioux: even in his ghibli fantasies he is a dictator
clevermoniker: he just converted a pic to that style <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: r2 will kill it
clevermoniker: R2 will be around o3 level, nothing more, nothing less
zonchao: 😭
clevermoniker: some 'deepseek experts' even saying that the april release won't even be R2 but R1.5 using the latest V3
clevermoniker: and R2 will be reserved for V4
clevermoniker: but i wonder if they could achieve o3 level even with just V3.1 + thinking
spicy.lemonade: likeley 2.5 pro performance then
destrucules:
spicy.lemonade: i highly doubt
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spicy.lemonade: From math problems to coding puzzles etc
plouwg: Would solving AGI be a logical problem
brain4brain: It will. Have faith
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/believe-motivation-ted-lasso-jason-sudeikis-trendizisst-gif-3529704266728728998
brain4brain: Agentic o5 will be AGI
Operator powered by o5
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: Requires finding new constraints and such
spicy.lemonade: Going out and determining new things
spicy.lemonade: Observing the world
spicy.lemonade: Maybe even observing human biology and interaction
spicy.lemonade: I mean first newural networks were designed after biological ones
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: Need agi now
spicy.lemonade: Anyway one AI gets “research taste”
spicy.lemonade: It’s over
spicy.lemonade: Digital Ilya
brain4brain: Don’t worry you’ll get it this year
plouwg: Fair, I think I agree to some extend. I'm just trying to find your "constraints" to "any logic problem". Because I think it can be quite vast. If the universe is deterministic then we probably do have the constraints and anything is a logic problem. So solving any logic problem is quite an achievement.
Even if it isn't (Which I don't believe it is) there are some tough logic problems out there, like say building a entirely new operating system that is mathematically proven to be the most efficient it can be while keeping the features you want.
spicy.lemonade: Different is there are known unknowns
spicy.lemonade: And unknown unknowns
spicy.lemonade: If you ask “give most efficient algorithm for attention in llm” it can probably get
spicy.lemonade: But ask it “make models conscious” doesn’t even know what consciousness is or what it entails
brain4brain: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1917100628653887559?s=61
brain4brain: In Elon time: 1 month
Also it’s funny how all lab eventually converge to the same thing, Google co-scientist, o3 leaked to generate new scientific stuff, and now grok
alejandrozarzuelo: hey spicy
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt it awfully early in california?
alejandrozarzuelo: why are you awake so early
plouwg: Yes, I'll take that. Unknown unknowns could indeed be a issue, I was saying we probably do have the "known knowns or unknown knowns" that is required to build AGI, in case the universe and AGI was deterministic. As in, I believe its likely that through logical deduction of "known knowns" a perfect logical solver could reach enough "unknown knowns" to build AGI. Because enough indirect observations has been made that would make a *perfect* logical solver be able to deduce enough patterns to reach a logical conclusion.
In the same sense that a lot can be deduced about our past, even though we have no way to observe it, only its effects on our current time.
Either way I am not convinced AGI or at least human intelligence is entirely made up of "within universe determinism".
spicy.lemonade: I have insomnia every since *cough* and I’d always dream about *cough* anyway it’s this whole cascading problem which has affected my sleep schedule so now I’m awake at night and sleep in afternoon
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: cough?
spicy.lemonade: That one girl
alejandrozarzuelo: bruh
spicy.lemonade: No I’ve gotten over her
alejandrozarzuelo: you were better than her
spicy.lemonade: Dude I got over her I’m just saying
spicy.lemonade: That’s why I’m always up so late
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah i understand
spicy.lemonade: Lingering affects
alejandrozarzuelo: effects*
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hey1_1hey: RIGHT FUCKIGN NOW
zoermena: I guess not
spicy.lemonade: im convinced
spicy.lemonade: it can make anything
spicy.lemonade: i can think of
hikukomoru: I feel the AGI!!!
technocake.: wtf
wellmeaningalien:
zoermena: Is this correct?
.histic:
hikukomoru: The knife is floating
hey1_1hey: Fact checking now
spicy.lemonade: WTF IS THE RATE LIMIT
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: he is floating too
hey1_1hey: They aren't supposed to do that?
zoermena: There are no limits
spicy.lemonade: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
.histic:
zoermena: There are no limits for images or videos for plus or pro
spicy.lemonade: LFG
hikukomoru: I can't believe OAI cooked
hikukomoru: We're so Barack
wellmeaningalien:
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900> is this better than googles
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: is it working for anyone else?
spicy.lemonade: by a mile
wellmeaningalien: 1001%
hey1_1hey: Yanno that whole thing "Oh yeah AI can make whatever you dream of" with the cavate that its prob gonna be shit. That cavate has been taken off
st.sioux: it just gives me unexpected error
technocake.: somebody please make this meme
technocake.: this one
joaoluz19: Man i had the image gen and now is just dall-e aaaaaaa
wellmeaningalien: something in my language 😮 (can vouch its accurate)
hikukomoru: Sick wallpaper
hey1_1hey: I got news if this is correct or not btw
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I asked my math friend and he said yes then I said It was AI and then he took back his statement and said there were a few things wrong with it
spicy.lemonade: 💀
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spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: Well we have surely better ways of doing that
spicy.lemonade: The feature is visual
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning over image?
anathemaofmankind: Do you think necessary species will go extinct in our lifetimes. Doubt
futurist_wizard: It is a use case but a rarely utilized one
metaldragon01: Avatars let's gooo?
himekokatagiri: what's an avatar
metaldragon01: Face to the voice
hikukomoru: Avatars 😲
futurist_wizard: Avatar was so mid
spicy.lemonade: Avatar?
spicy.lemonade: Hmmmm
futurist_wizard: Even as a kid i was like.. thats it?
spicy.lemonade: Ohhhhh
hikukomoru: Can I finally turn ChatGPT into a cute anime girl
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade: That ads up
hikukomoru: MikuGPT
spicy.lemonade: Sam is always exited about these quality of life shit
spicy.lemonade: It’s def avatars
alejandrozarzuelo: we need to prevent extinction as much as possible, but when the damage is done we need tools to undo it
not with species that have been gone for thousands of years like this, which is pretty useless
but with species recently extincted
also this is the same technology used to infuse genetic diversity in a species
for example, cheetahs have very little genetic diversity and suffer a lot from thos, if we can artificially add genetic diversity, we can make so that their species becomes much healthier
anathemaofmankind: I hope it's porn
A NSFW filter
Imagine
himekokatagiri: Miku is too friendly
himekokatagiri: I want something meaner
himekokatagiri: but that resonates with me
himekokatagiri: like waaaah
hikukomoru: He promised us didn't he
anathemaofmankind: He did
hikukomoru: But you know how he is
hikukomoru: So
hikukomoru: You never know
futurist_wizard: I understand the use cases for this technology and i suppose its something but the importance of this is much less the news cycle would indicate
anathemaofmankind: I don't think Sam has gone back on his word though.
Delay maybe. But not outright cancelling stuff that he promised. Could be wrong
zoermena: At what time should we expect a release?
st.sioux: but its something the normies understand
spicy.lemonade: Usually 30 mins
futurist_wizard: Normies don't understand it
alejandrozarzuelo: filling niches we destroyed and improving the genetic health of species is VERY BIG NEWS tho
its a bit of clickbait? sure
but it is very important news
futurist_wizard: Normies understand fluffy doggy
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himekokatagiri: good times
himekokatagiri: I'll put this one in my scrapbook
juweigege_54993: Anyone excited for AGI?
metaldragon01: Win?
metaldragon01: Absolutely
metaldragon01: There's very few bottlenecks left
brain4brain: It’s quite disappointing that all the good agentic benchmarks are either dead or being ignored, vending-bench, balrog, workarena++ is basically dead
brain4brain: Yes, who here isn’t?
brain4brain: Huge
https://x.com/arankomatsuzaki/status/1914877762168627612?s=61
.histic: no
st.sioux: agi fraud
drewsni: Deepguessr just released v2 of the benchmark
joaoluz19: Curious to see aplications beyond calculus
joaoluz19: TTRL
joaoluz19: Man what fuck they did with Maya
brain4brain: I don’t even heard about it
joaoluz19: She can shutdown the call by her own lol
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441
drewsni: Deepguessr.com go ahead and share it on twitter
brain4brain: Ok
drewsni: I’ll even give you an exclusive sneak peak at v2 scoring
drewsni: You’ll be world first to share it
drewsni:
brain4brain: Something is fishy
drewsni: Nothing is fishy
brain4brain: HOLY SHIT
https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1914648469622452500?s=61
.histic: so many promises yet nothing to deliver.
brain4brain: Where did you get this?
.histic: they'll release sonnet 4.0 in 2029
brain4brain: Thats why we rely on Anthropic having the vision, OpenAI to have to develop and have it internally, DeepSeek to steal the weight and open source and Google to ship it <:ez:1136267305521774634>
drewsni: It’s mine. Www.deepguessr.com go ahead and play geoguessr against AI
joaoluz19: Remember what they take from us
st.sioux: so this was real or was it someone with a mic?
joaoluz19: The worst thing was that it was real
brain4brain: Oh wow, that’s so cool, also AI is outperforming me, I can’t even get the state right most of the time 😭
brain4brain: Can I post this?
drewsni: Yeah if you want lmao
brain4brain: Time to make this as clickbait as possible
.histic: i think this illustrates how quickly people get use to new tech.
i believe OpenAI AVM remains still very good compared to open-source alternatives, but people have become so used to it that they now dismiss the release as being overhyped.. and honestly, it was to some extent. the AI from Her was way more realistic.
st.sioux: because her was a person bro
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hey1_1hey: I did for a while then had to stop because my spotter didn't spot me 💀
zoermena: Also shoulders.
futurist_wizard: lots of pasta
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
hey1_1hey: I got all the shoulder
wellmeaningalien: k see ya
wellmeaningalien: will do
wellmeaningalien: looking into it 👀
hey1_1hey: Imagine a person, now imagine 2 of them next to each other. Thats my shoulder width
a1c4p0ne: Nice
hikukomoru: I never picked up a weight in my life
wellmeaningalien: same bro
hey1_1hey: I can tell by the way you type
futurist_wizard: so even mushroom could beat you up
hikukomoru: What does that even mean
hey1_1hey: Yeah easy
futurist_wizard: https://tenor.com/view/it%27s-over-over-it%27s-gif-3551756699416095564
wellmeaningalien: baka chan you will never survive the ninja age
hikukomoru: Dude he's like 50kg
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968
hey1_1hey: Idk man leave me alone its getting late
hikukomoru: I am 10kg heavier than him
futurist_wizard: can you do a push up
hey1_1hey: Yes? What kind of question is that
wellmeaningalien: ❓ wait 60kg oh
maintcrew: if ur a girl lifting weights with ur arms wont do a lot of things
try to focus on the buttock and related areas muscles more
futurist_wizard: honestly some girls cant even do one
hikukomoru: A single one? yeah
hikukomoru: 2 and I collapse
hey1_1hey: Thats straight embaressing
hey1_1hey: I can knock out 25 easy
a1c4p0ne: Science says hour glass shape most attractive for women
futurist_wizard: i can do 20 pull ups : )
a1c4p0ne: For guys science says upper body
spicy.lemonade: what does the 300b post money mean
hikukomoru: Yeah because you weigh as much as a feather
hey1_1hey: I remember doing my first pull up. One of the moments of all time
futurist_wizard: you probably are half reping, real push ups are where your chest touches the floor
777agical: valuation after the raise
hey1_1hey: You are so unoriginal it hurts
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gamerbath:
gamerbath: this whole fucking time
gamerbath: I have never used o1 o3-mini high...........
gamerbath: AAA
sarik0497: That or Ilya coming out of his lab with ASI saying "There. That was ez."
wellmeaningalien: <@1316552597829586955> python doesnt work but it u dont specify a coding language it'll do js which seems to work properly
wellmeaningalien: can jump can break blocks
wellmeaningalien: even tho perspective a lil whack
wellmeaningalien: thats 3.7 sonnet thinking 32k
wellmeaningalien: lemme see regular 3.7 sonnet
st.sioux: oh cool
gamerbath: alright i'm gonna sacrifice my bank account and do a run with o1-pro high. I'm not sure this is a good prompt, especially for reasoning models
```make 2d minecraft where you can move around, break blocks, broken blocks drop items, you can pick up the items by moving over them, you can select slots in your hotbar and place blocks with right click, the world will be procedually generated. Do this in a single .html file.```
wellmeaningalien: 2D boooo!!
gamerbath: just like terraria!
wellmeaningalien: working? lotsa people are working on non llm solutions. wonder what their ideas gonna be
wellmeaningalien: but chollet often seems wrong so..
wellmeaningalien: yea ngl if it can do that its cool
gamerbath: this is why I started using typescript 😢
wellmeaningalien: fuck i ran out of regular 3.7 sonnet messages 💀
st.sioux: i wonder if this is bc of all the youtubers who make tutorials for kids in js because its easier (although admittedly python might be easier in some cases)
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: like "learn to code! make minecrat in 2 hours!"
wellmeaningalien: and also just the fact it scrapes a whole fucking lot of websites and probably knows the ins and out of html and js like its own belly button
gamerbath: GPT-4.5 not that bad
sarik0497: ...How did you know that they have just installed a belly button on the newest model? <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>
wellmeaningalien: yea it works™️©®
wellmeaningalien: sam altman isnt gonna tell u about it
wellmeaningalien:
gamerbath: this was 220 lines of .html
gamerbath: very simple
oooooooooog: ur name is the same as the king of the sunken sea
gamerbath: claude 3.7 sonnet is uh.....
gamerbath: yea it's cooking
wellmeaningalien: yeah?
gamerbath: like really fucking cooking
wellmeaningalien: goat 3.7 sonnet
oooooooooog: do you mean javascript...???
wellmeaningalien: as usual
gamerbath: 20k tokens in the generation now <a:ablobgrin:901223418182140014>
st.sioux: yea 3.7 is wild
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hikukomoru: Anime grandmothers lookin like 15 yeard old girls
aero447: -Siev.
futurist_wizard: I think anime is pedophilic nonsense
fractalcomputer: Except *maybe* Fractal?
hikukomoru: Fractal is a number freak
sweetievee__33649: yeah whats wrong with fractal <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-office-kill-joy-meanie-thief-of-joy-gif-17139895
technocake.: I don't know what you get up to away from the keyboard
wellmeaningalien: https://media.tenor.com/jpNJqKdwLr0AAAAM/edgerunners.gif
sweetievee__33649: is he the type of person to calculate his width in nautical miles
hikukomoru: Chopping trees down and wrestling bears
futurist_wizard: Fractal is probably skinny
fractalcomputer: How much do you bench?
sweetievee__33649: i dont...?
sweetievee__33649: am i supposed to bench 225 or something
futurist_wizard: Philosophical users don't eat food
fractalcomputer: Yes.
sweetievee__33649: entery requirements here are insane
wellmeaningalien: I'll just say that 4 years of swimming, cycling everyday 2 years and taekwondo yellow belt has made my calves a menace
sweetievee__33649: komoru how much do you bench
fractalcomputer: I personally do sets of 10 reps with 85 kg.
hikukomoru: I've never exercised in my life
futurist_wizard: I can bench 100kg
wellmeaningalien: Loser
technocake.: the duality of man
hikukomoru: I can do two pushups
sweetievee__33649: i have done about as much exercise as a soggy biscuit
sweetievee__33649: i can do a good 5 then its all down hill from there
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/celebration-gif-10198772274377430268
wellmeaningalien: Fractal you know you're weaker than my mom
fractalcomputer: Unfortunate.
futurist_wizard: It is the best news ever
aero447: Blue is smarter.
sweetievee__33649: whats your mums @?
wellmeaningalien: She can bench 100
fractalcomputer: How much does she squat?
hikukomoru: I don't need to lift anything heavy though
I can just ask my dad
aero447: They know that nano bots will be there one day.
wellmeaningalien: Idfk I gotta ask her
fractalcomputer: A single repetition or sets?
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hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: Man this is ass
Just give us o3 and o4
harryisgamer: oh ffs, stop with needle in a haystack
hikukomoru: This is a terrible benchmark
spicy.lemonade: chill out
st.sioux: even he said itsboring
literallyvarane: Feel
Like flawless needle testing isn’t impressive given 2.5
gamerbath: llama 4 looked like the same, so i'm really skheptical
hey1_1hey: Yeah it is tbf
spicy.lemonade: she said that
hikukomoru: The fact that they're using that benchmark tells us everything we need to know lol
spicy.lemonade: better benchmark
callmepyro: "We couldn't win on long context vs 2.5 pro so we made our own eval so no one can compare it"
hey1_1hey:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is like fictionbench
literallyvarane: Ima need this compared to 2.5
hikukomoru: L screenshot
hey1_1hey: Suck my dick bro
callmepyro: lmfao
hikukomoru: Suck what
hey1_1hey: Hold up
callmepyro: OpenAI got mogged by 2.5 Pro and they are desperation shipping
spicy.lemonade: this is a good model
hey1_1hey:
gamerbath: video??
literallyvarane: Gut tells me 2.5 crushes these, but it’s a CoT model.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395
spicy.lemonade: ?
hey1_1hey: 30-60 min video?!
hey1_1hey: Damn
gamerbath: how does that work, 4o can do video input!?
hey1_1hey:
gamerbath: how come they never mentioned this. 4o video input!??
hikukomoru: Now compare it to 2.5
literallyvarane: But Google being able to *ship* 2.5 is impressive
literallyvarane: Really curious how these compare to 2.5 flash
hey1_1hey: Alright demo time
literallyvarane: I just need pricing tbh
futurist_wizard: Hehehe
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hey1_1hey: It used to be quite high at like 20% but then I was like nah that's some schzio talk
joaoluz19: Mine is 70%, but I'm still happy every day for the 30% chance of sucess. I fear stagnation much more than death
darkstar0818: My pdoom probability doubles if humans successfully aligned it 🙂
drewsni: Guys I miss FAP 😦
st.sioux: What do you guys think of this
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt stagnation a form of death itself?
st.sioux: https://futurism.com/ai-researchers-tech-industry-dead-end
st.sioux: i saw it on r/economics
alejandrozarzuelo: its so over
joaoluz19: Poetic
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: it's so obvious scaling is leading to AGI
spacetimetsunami: why so high
spacetimetsunami: or i guess what kind of doom is making it high for you
brain4brain: My internet presence is massive
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/low-taper-fade-ninja-massive-the-meme-is-still-massive-yeah-no-massive-gif-9995754776955392143
destrucules: I was replying to Metal and also criticizing the idea, not you per se, but I appreciate the clarification. In general, if it sounds like I'm attacking you, I'm probably just choosing my words poorly - I am not likely to ever personally attack you. I won't even say "you'll know it when you see it" because you won't see it. That's not how I ever intend to interact with you.
ldj: no worries, I didn't take it personally 👍
destrucules: Replying to this message to unpack the main points. What I mean here is that people in power often plainly and unambiguously misrepresent their own views due to financial and political pressure. For example, Altman and several other AI lab CEOs have gone on record condemning Trump, and now endorse him wholeheartedly, since he is now in power. To get anything done, you have to make sure the Trump admin doesn't see you as an enemy.
If you post on X, or on Discord and then it gets screenshotted and posted on X, it'll drive a new hype wave and you'll get tons of scrutiny from your job based on whether or not you represented the company the way the company wants to be represented. You may be asked to publicly retract your statement, delete the posts, post clarifications that essentially undo what you said, etc., all under threat of termination if you don't. I don't think this is a baseless conspiracy theory - we've seen plenty of examples, and when I have worked at tech companies, those rules have always been applied to me. Hell, even at my current job, where I'm a leaf level nobody employee, I'm not allowed to post things on my personal social media that the company doesn't want me to, otherwise I may be fired.
destrucules: Fwiw, I voted no on this. I think making bets is different from working for a company that has a certain way they want to market themselves. If you make bets, your financial incentive is to be correct. If you work for a big company, your financial incentive is to be employable, even if that means saying things that, in your opinion, will cause the company to suffer, so long as you are following the spec that the marketing department dictates. Because even if your company craters, you can just hop over to a different one. But if you say what you believe is right, violating the dictates of the marketing department, you get a black mark. Even if what you said helped the company.
_wwwwww: Very high
shadyjakey: Hello
zoermena: Your profile picture is sick
shadyjakey: Thanks I made it myself
zoermena: What software do you use for that stuff is it like photoshop?
shadyjakey: Yep, raw frames in photoshop
shadyjakey: The animation is made by someone else
shadyjakey: Oh also screen2gif, best gif app ever
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
brain4brain: Hi
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shy-hi-gif-25532260
shadyjakey: I was gonna ask about where I could share prompts I make
shadyjakey: Or like good prompting servers
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/biogridgame/status/1903239650883355075?s=61
shadyjakey: I guess there are none?
st.sioux: maybe ai-creations?
shadyjakey: Seems a little silly lol
brain4brain: For Jailbreak prompt and prompting server: Pliny server
For more technical AI: ElutherAI
For more general server: OpenAI official server
shadyjakey: bet
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/slow_developer/status/1903421705491468798?s=61
brain4brain:
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spicy.lemonade: I did not cheat
memlaswaif: <#1136231504440201216>
spicy.lemonade: oh right
agezes: guys
agezes: https://lifearchitect.ai/agi/
agezes: we are at 94%
agezes: just 6% for AGI
agezes: A small step for a man
agezes: The greatest step for humanity
brain4brain: My own benchmark shows that we are at 5% to AGI
brain4brain: 90% by EOY
memlaswaif: 99.9% according to memla waif benchmark
memlaswaif: anyday now
_wwwwww: Llama 5 when?
_wwwwww: Gemini 3.0 pro?
_wwwwww: Ai est stagnant
popsiclejohnithan: October.
_cloudost: I NEED VEO 2 TODAY WHEN WILL Google RELEASE IT
_cloudost: ?
zonchao: this dude is retarded
_cloudost: Veo 2....
futurist_wizard: Never
zonchao: alan
shirethedreamer: Dr.* Alan
shirethedreamer: ill say the same thing i said about him to my friends
just use his page as a good collection of recent impactful ai and robotics news
dont pay his personal takes any mind
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: Cof cof
joaoluz19: About llama 4
.wolfnacht: qwen and moonshot are cooking something rn.
joaoluz19: From the Meta part I wanted to see the non-LLM architecture of Lecun
joaoluz19: But curious what they are making too
metaldragon01: Rumors is something big drops Monday and that's why llama release got pushed up
metaldragon01: Quasar (likely from openai) would be my guess.
They had time to benchmark it ect since it was released free. Made it easy to know if they should get ahead of it imo.
wellmeaningalien: I'm not trying to defend llama 4 but people who are seriously comparing it to claude 3.7 thinking or gemini 2.5 pro which are thinking model and then cry out when it's not as good as giving deeper reflections are retarded
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: These are literally all reasoning models and they're comparing it with base models
wellmeaningalien: 😭
joaoluz19: I saw people saying that it is not better than gemma
wellmeaningalien: yea thats a fair criticism
wellmeaningalien: are u talking about the top post rn
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hey1_1hey: He can, he just doesn't want to
spicy.lemonade: you have the ability to come up with completely new thing
spicy.lemonade: so go on
himekokatagiri: hehehe so any announcement from oai tomorrow maybe?
hey1_1hey: My best guess is thursday
hey1_1hey: Thats when they usually drop at least
fractalcomputer: And now you're trying to play off the moral high ground. Great. So you barge into this discussion, refuse to provide reasoning for your beliefs, and dip out the moment you are demanded to actually provide something of note to the conversation.
himekokatagiri: that's too long
hikukomoru: Yeah
fractalcomputer: Do you have any idea how profusely idiotic that is?
hey1_1hey: Hey I mean at least she honest...
hikukomoru: Mhm
fractalcomputer:
ai9708: there are no shes on the internet
spicy.lemonade: 99% of humans in history will never and have never come up with anything truly original and novel. this includes researchers and phds. the work has always been an extension of something else. only a handfull like einstine, newton, etc have truly come up with a novel out of distribution idea
hikukomoru: Thanks for the definition
hey1_1hey: True, I forgot that Komoru is a 43 year old uzebkistani software engineer
spicy.lemonade: if so you should be able to conceptualize a new theory🙏
fractalcomputer: Oh you're more than welcome. I hope you grow as a person (see, I can take moral high grounds as well).
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/anime-pfp-gif-24100488
fractalcomputer: Most definitely not.
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: Apparently the internet is full of retards that can't distinguish philosophy of science from science.
sieventer:
spicy.lemonade: idk how we managed to argue about appeal to authority being correct. especially in something as concrete as stem
trey6033: Oof, quantum physicists would give you the wide eye for this one
spicy.lemonade: realistically if a random guy online said they solved xyz with nothing more to support academia laughs
fractalcomputer: In the words of the immortal jgudy, "Have you taken real analysis yet? I think that forces you to learn rigor."
ai9708: you should have stopped reading sth like that after the first few words or sentences
hikukomoru: Ermmm don't you know some random dude on discord is more trustworthy than people who dedicated their entire careers and lives to AI research
ai9708: and definitely not talk about it
fractalcomputer: And how do you know he is not?
spicy.lemonade: why are you being contrarian again. you could apply that arguement for every single member here
fractalcomputer: Oh I agree, it is incredibly unlikely that this would be the case. But that doesn't lend a single bit of credence to simply presupposing that the cited "authorities" are any more correct than that person.
spicy.lemonade: who outnumbers his sentiment
fractalcomputer: I'm not seeing your point. Are you suggesting that I should treat everyone here with open-mindedness? With a sense of childlike curiosity and wonder?
sieventer: I'm the most underrated member here. Everyone thinks that I'm a NEET, and actually, I'm top-tier elite scientist currently.
st.sioux: stem is one of the few fields where relying on authority alone should be completely avoided
spicy.lemonade: it seems like you agree with XAU therfore you chose to giv ehim the benefit of the doubt
fractalcomputer: No, I think he is a retard.
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_3sphere: I look ok I guess?
hikukomoru: Yeah you're not wrong
Some people don't like when you say that though lol
_cloudost:
oooooooooog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
hey1_1hey: I go from thinking I look like the perfect specimen to thinking I look weird
hey1_1hey: Flip flop really, generally I am pretty good though
hikukomoru: I mean mushroom people do look weird though
hey1_1hey: Thats racist yanno
.histic:
hikukomoru: Not trying to be racist or anything
hey1_1hey: Sure sure
hey1_1hey: Thats what all racist say
oooooooooog: what's the point of saying normal if almost everyone is normal
zoermena: I feel like I look alright but I can improve a lot if I commit
hikukomoru: Idk 🤷♂️
wellmeaningalien: lol damn my wifi gave out
wellmeaningalien:
.histic: ...
drewsni: Everyone here needs to hit the gym
hikukomoru: I guess it just sounds nicer to say u're cis than saying your normal
oooooooooog: the reason is that it's a specific label, which is a useful tool in any formal discussion
zoermena: I have a gym at home luckily
hikukomoru: No
drewsni: Did you work out today?
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: my arms and legs hurt because i just worked out ;-;
.histic: masterpiece
zoermena: No I should’ve woken up earlier
hey1_1hey: I heard something the other day to know if you're trans or not and I am still stuck. Heres the theory
"Theres is a button in front of you and it will change you to your desired gender but if you press it you can't go back what so ever. Do you press it?"
drewsni: Hell ya, proud of you
oooooooooog: i can't do it again or i won't be able too get up lol
drewsni: You gotta still do it brother. Everyone here needs to live forever
oooooooooog: i think i need more b12 or something
hey1_1hey: Had me looking like a professional bullshitter (philosopher)
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: WTF
drewsni: I’m assuming you take creatine?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/bruh-stare-serious-gif-14759437
oooooooooog: i have no idea what that even is haha
wellmeaningalien: its hank
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return_to_monke1_33974: dopamine receptors fried
a1c4p0ne: If it can make you money
futurist_wizard: O3's boring already
popsiclejohnithan: Is it safe to say Open AI is still the furthest ahead?
st.sioux: how do you make money besides gambling
st.sioux: lol
futurist_wizard: Maybe by 2 months
futurist_wizard: Or 1
hikukomoru: I'm already bored with o4 mini
a1c4p0ne: Running a business
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
fractalcomputer: Well, did you see AGI?
st.sioux: dope
futurist_wizard: I saw a bunch up charts with numbers
hikukomoru: Number go up make happy
fractalcomputer: Astounding. Maybe you can fit an exponential curve on there somewhere.
popsiclejohnithan: lol.
futurist_wizard: Most shocking thing was when they mentioned Coral and fish
literallyvarane:
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/crypto-penguin-pudgy-stock-hodl-gif-10359392193249231185
literallyvarane: Not bad for the pricing. Not necessarily Google levels, but not awful.
futurist_wizard: It's over, great barrier reef is dead
st.sioux: o4 mini pricing is crazy
st.sioux: like crazy good
himekokatagiri: Was this a nothing again
return_to_monke1_33974: where is O3 and O4-mini on ARC-AGI 2
return_to_monke1_33974: where will be
mantegh5061: I was waiting for frontiermath results
natewill_: what is this about?
srirachamayosauce: o4-mini pricing is actually good
natewill_: why is o4 worse than o3
futurist_wizard: I was shocked when Greg mentioned 9/11 in the livestream, that was so inappropriate
popsiclejohnithan: No, quite the opposite.
aero447: Okay.
aero447: https://x.com/DeryaTR_/status/1912558350794961168
srirachamayosauce: o4-mini vs full o3 brother
st.sioux: it does tasks from upwork
aero447: "I feel o3’s intelligence is at or near genius level!"
hikukomoru: They literally just announced AGI
Greg said "AGI is here"
return_to_monke1_33974: o4-mini * - smaller model
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vancebeliever: You need exponentially more compute for linear gain is what i thought
clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/cybereality/status/1917429297549304004
https://worldgen.github.io/
technocake.: exponentially more computer for exponentially smarter, and we already have exponentially improving compute
vancebeliever: Now i am confused
trojan09205: the 2027 site is actually cool it's just a bit wordy
.wolfnacht: and the price would be 1k+
trojan09205: im not reading all that
technocake.: you should be, you have misread the graphs
.wolfnacht: <@848793071579693107>
https://www.rxddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1kb5vcp/the_last_time_that_nuclear_weapons_were_used_mars/
drewsni: random question but r any of you guys in non ai discord communities
zonchao: yes
trojan09205: i joined one recently for a new book i started reading
drewsni: im assuming tesla
trojan09205: i used to also be part of altcannabinoids discord chat
drewsni: in those, how often do mods actually moderate chat
trojan09205: pretty heavily
zonchao: no
drewsni: do the mods moderate
zonchao: not really, why?
drewsni: jw if ai communities were generally outliers in that i never see mods actually doing anything
drewsni: because other than corpo ai servers, i cant remember the last time ive actually seen a mod do something
zonchao: BREAKING: ELON KICKED OUT OF THE WH
zonchao: <:shockedturtle:1053452150493167696>
gamerbath: really?
zonchao: yep
gamerbath:
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893
gamerbath: > he has voluntarily scaled back his physical presence there, focusing more on his companies, particularly Tesla, while still advising the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) remotely
from grok
gamerbath: and tbh, I trust Grok more than some guy named Gork
drewsni: its very jarring seeing chats with like a ratio of 1 mod per 3 users and they also heavily moderate, such a weird concept to me
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> jannies are lame
drewsni: is the ai community just chill/semi-mature
drewsni: or are the jannies of those servers just nerds
zonchao: normie gaming servers/official servers of video games are the worst
drewsni: the ones im talking about are weather community discord
drewsni: its so bad lol
drewsni: such a weird combo of literal 15 year old autistic furries and 25-30 year old people somehow being even less mature
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dog-groom-grooming-pet-pomeranian-gif-16301055604188999567
drewsni: ya not saying that but im defintiely always watching out for it lol
drewsni: i mod a random other semi-large server and its an issue we have to deal with like once a week unfortunately
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.histic: pure brainrot...
but i can't stop watching.
fractalcomputer: Yes.
hikukomoru: Ecstatic
wellmeaningalien: <@834891518836736010> wish you a beautiful sexy sigma day
wellmeaningalien: cant hate
fractalcomputer: Claude can write much more emotional biographies than GPT.
hey1_1hey: I am an AI luddite if this is what the internet becomes
.wolfnacht: i searched: bombardiro crocodilo vs lirili larila and looked at YT shorts
hey1_1hey: Claude doesn't groom me tho so
hikukomoru: These yt shorts make me feel old
wellmeaningalien: grok 3 is the groomer chatbot
wellmeaningalien: everything you say it'll say "oh haha you're so right and you're so sexy and smart lol right"
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822
.wolfnacht: real
hey1_1hey: I need that in my life
hikukomoru: Wtf I love Grok now??
hey1_1hey: Grok usually calls me retarded
wellmeaningalien: what art thy insinuating dear
hey1_1hey: Well thats not true, I have never used grok now that I think about it
fractalcomputer: *thou
wellmeaningalien: fr?
wellmeaningalien: fuck you nerd
wellmeaningalien: <:CSMagni:694612757806317608>
fractalcomputer: Thou corresponds to the French tu.
hey1_1hey: No lmao
wellmeaningalien: tu me fais CHIER mec
hey1_1hey: Any penis music listeners in here?
wellmeaningalien: me
wellmeaningalien: oh tbh i didnt doubt it
hey1_1hey: 🤝
hikukomoru: Nothing 😇
wellmeaningalien: i was curious tho like why would it jerk me off and call you a retard
wellmeaningalien: does it have like a bias
wellmeaningalien: komoru === p diddy
hey1_1hey: I prefer praise from my highly intelegent chatbots please
wellmeaningalien: highly intelligent is debatable
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/diddy-gif-8961692530157879891
hey1_1hey: I dont like being called a stupid dumb fucker usually ☝️
wellmeaningalien: HANG UP HANG THE FUCK UP
.wolfnacht:
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st.sioux: 20
wellmeaningalien: Yeah but we're unemployed
retrerox: I didnt know i was in the daytrading discord
wellmeaningalien: Its basically the next best thing
hikukomoru: I'm very stingy
st.sioux: its actually more than gemini it has like 2tb of drive storage and shit
st.sioux: im not simping for google just saying
st.sioux: in case u dont know
retrerox: <@505313122802728972> Tell me what should i do with gemini?
wellmeaningalien: these guys are NOT ready for AI <a:skullemoj:1107004725980835991>
wellmeaningalien: i aint gonna tell em
retrerox: shall i create an app that makes me millionare?
ailoveyoom: Why did they not demo Chirp, the speech one 😭
futurist_wizard: Its not ready
ailoveyoom: Have you ever tried MusicFX? Through their Labs platform
futurist_wizard: I hate viabdeo gwames now
hikukomoru: Idk
I just use Gemini to ask random retarded questions
ailoveyoom: I'm not sure if it's the same model (Lyra)
ailoveyoom: The cringe that I endured was not worth what I got today 😔
wellmeaningalien: i just use the current best model to do that
hikukomoru: >using blender on a laptop
Does he know
wellmeaningalien: ❌
wellmeaningalien: love that ai is getting better and cheaper so now you have an oracle to ask dumb shit to basically
futurist_wizard: This livestream is boring
futurist_wizard: I don't like it
st.sioux: brainrot zoomer
_cloudost: Soon all antis will become permanently asleep. AGI IS HERE AND WHOEVER OPPOSES AI WILL FACE CONSEQUENCES
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futurist_wizard: STOP THE LIVESTREAM
wellmeaningalien: gonna blast kercheow
hikukomoru: Yawnnnn
Where AGI
futurist_wizard: Facts
retrerox: What if AGI was just our parents
retrerox: In the meantime ill get some papa johns pizza
retrerox: today i can get medium +3 ingredients for 5.95
hikukomoru: Hype dead
hikukomoru: Where Gemini 3.0
futurist_wizard: GayGI now
retrerox: Me in the mirror
futurist_wizard: I hate ai now
futurist_wizard: All its done is betray me
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.wolfnacht: wait for fdvr's everyone's own world would def be a sexual hedonistic paradise.
futurist_wizard: The life everyone lives but can't admit it
.histic: https://tenor.com/view/feelslagman-gif-18912685
fractalcomputer: Physical activities are profoundly uninteresting. I can move my body just fine to enjoy the songbirds of springtime and to watch the Sun set on a pristine, cold sea; but that experience is ultimately fleeting and I cannot make sense of my life as only enjoying pretty sunsets and other such things. Neither do I have the intellect to lose myself in the seas of mathematical reasoning—I am simply not that kind of person. Philosophy is likewise as shallow as the strandside sea on low tide—full of sloppy abstraction and futile reasoning.
One can always distract oneself by all these myriad things; but in the end, they all matter for nothing. They taste bitter, like ash.
hey1_1hey: The amount of hoolinagage I would get up to with the mushroom folk
futurist_wizard: Sexual fdvr fantasies are very uninteresting to me
hikukomoru: Mushroom sex 😳
st.sioux: shogghothic vibes in the chat
3ds0662: 😂 😭 fuck man the nightmare
3ds0662:
futurist_wizard: You have an opportunity to experience anything and you choose something you could do in real life
hey1_1hey: You just sound depressed
hey1_1hey: Thats what I've taken away
hikukomoru: Sounds like you're not an FDVR guy
futurist_wizard: I am
hikukomoru: There are many sexual experiences you could have in FDVR but not in real life
hey1_1hey: I can do quite litterly anything that I enjoy and be happy. Playing games, looking at mushrooms, talking to people, going for a walk, doing maths, watching youtube. Litterly anything
hey1_1hey: Name one
hikukomoru: Fucking dragons
fractalcomputer: Why pleasure? There are only so many nuances to be experienced in both sensuality and pain.
hey1_1hey: Fractal ban this hoolegan
hikukomoru: I want dragon sex
hey1_1hey: Also thats just you projecting
hey1_1hey: I KNEW IT
fractalcomputer: Sex is a profoundly grotesque affair.
futurist_wizard: I would just say they aren't interesting to me then, even throwing myself off a cliff without pain would be more interesting
hey1_1hey: Fractal you are litterly homsexual
hikukomoru: What about gay dragons
fractalcomputer: Would that impact my distaste for sexuality?
3ds0662: yes i hate plots that just jump to sex scenes
hey1_1hey: Fractal 👉 👈 ...
Would you?
3ds0662: its animalistic
3ds0662: has no taste
hey1_1hey: Yeah prob
ailoveyoom: 🐕🦺
hikukomoru: What are finnish people into
hikukomoru: Bears?
ailoveyoom: Woof
hikukomoru: Yetis?
hey1_1hey: Bigfoot
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spicy.lemonade: but they live day to day
spicy.lemonade: essentially
spicy.lemonade: no?
spicy.lemonade: we have different defenitions then😭
alejandrozarzuelo: agi implies artificial general (human level) intelligence
spicy.lemonade: yes and no imo. yes because we are training it on human data regardless
spicy.lemonade: but i conscider animals general inteligence
spicy.lemonade: I dont think necesarily short term planning would make it not agi
fractalcomputer: Or maybe terminology that was developed in a highly theoretical environment with little to no practical grounding might not be the best to describe intelligence.
spicy.lemonade: ai still cant do things a dog can
spicy.lemonade: tru
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why I prefer the t-AGI terminology, it is precise, dense and continuous
fractalcomputer: 'Artificial General Intelligence' was only meaningful in an environment where the deep-learning generation of 'narrow intelligences' were the primary characters of contrast.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237
alejandrozarzuelo: it is not without its flaws but it is much more useful, particularly since the objective of AI research is mainly to unemploy humans from the workforce
alejandrozarzuelo: with the previous paradigm 1-year 3sigma is about 2035
alejandrozarzuelo: hyperbolic growth would make it in 2027 at the earliest
alejandrozarzuelo: 3 sigma i think is the error rate that almost everyone has, i dont think that not even neurosurgeons have a less than 1/300 error rate
alejandrozarzuelo: i think that the window of plausability is on that range, but since most of the discrepancy doesnt come from the inherent exponential rate but instead the hyperbolic component, soon we will know with much greter certainty which path we are in
spicy.lemonade: I think after mid 2027
spicy.lemonade: it goes down to "whats your defenition of true agi"
spicy.lemonade: like people will start to call it
spicy.lemonade: and there will be holdouts till idk
spicy.lemonade: maybe even 2035 for some
alejandrozarzuelo: this is why i am talking about 1yr-3sigma perfrmance
alejandrozarzuelo: objective
alejandrozarzuelo: (as close as we can get)
fractalcomputer: Then why don't you redefine AGI to mean 'something that appeared in 2019' and feel yourself get excited over the feelings of hype?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont usually agree with your takes but this was a witty comeback
spicy.lemonade: because thats not my definition
spicy.lemonade: i have my own internal view of what ive conscidered it to be
spicy.lemonade: redefining wont change anything
fractalcomputer: So your definition just happens to be right?
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: where in what i said did I say that
alejandrozarzuelo: basically how long a task an AI can do that outperforms humans beyond a certain error tolerance
for example, a 1 second 4 sigma AGI can do any intellectual task that takes a human 1 second with an accurracy better than 99.99% better than a human can
spicy.lemonade: if I say "im homosexual" even though deep down i know im not am i homosexual? bad example ofc
spicy.lemonade: i can say the defenition but doesnt mean anything to me
spicy.lemonade: agi discovered 1990 hooray
alejandrozarzuelo: wait, where did that guy go
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alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is worse than gemini 2.5 at math proofs it seems
okbut: I thought it was SOTA for its niche? Or were those charts cherrypicking
alejandrozarzuelo: and i think one of the reasons why is that o3 rushes too much
spicy.lemonade: sota at pass@1024
okbut: Prover I mean
alejandrozarzuelo: g2.5 thinks for a while
spicy.lemonade: o3 is very lazy
spicy.lemonade: youd have to run it 1024 times or so to get said performance
alejandrozarzuelo: relatable tbh
spicy.lemonade: this is what RL is for though ti decrease pass threshold
futurist_wizard: Even if warp drive is possible, it's resource requirements are relevant
alejandrozarzuelo: not necessarily
futurist_wizard: How so
alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, newer remathematizations have lowered the required mass, as there is a trick you can use
alejandrozarzuelo: but as mentioned these are tricks
alejandrozarzuelo: basically exploiting quantum properties
alejandrozarzuelo: which we dont know if they hold on relativistic scales
_3sphere: GPT told me there are too *many* of those
_3sphere: no way to tell which one is right because we have no data on quantum gravity
futurist_wizard: I don't have the background to argue the possibility of quantum anything but I've never heard of a physicist endorsing ftl, they usually say its incredibly unlikely
spicy.lemonade: physicists at nasa beg to differ https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20110015936/downloads/20110015936.pdf
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
alejandrozarzuelo: some physicists can get a bit too confident, we literally have no evidence against it or in favor
alejandrozarzuelo: so saying that it is incredibly unlikely is not really based on what we know
alejandrozarzuelo: there is one thing i will say
alejandrozarzuelo: if FTL is possible, then we are flat-out aloone in the galaxy
alejandrozarzuelo: and possibly in the local group
alejandrozarzuelo: there is no way that FTL can be possible and that we will ever encounter an intelligent civilization
_3sphere: We do have solid evidence in the form of CTCs being impossible
alejandrozarzuelo: ctcs?
_3sphere: Any FTL scheme either adds time travel or needs a mechanism to prevent CTCs
_3sphere: Closed timelike curve
_3sphere: Happens with FTL because you can use it to interact with your own past
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, but FTL as is formulated by Alcubierre doesnt have that problem
fractalcomputer: People always forget what Gödel did with Einstein's work.
_3sphere: I thought it does?
alejandrozarzuelo: there are very good videos explaining why it would appear as if it does but it doesnt
alejandrozarzuelo: basically, it would be an illusion, as you would duplicate your image and one of them would be in reverse
alejandrozarzuelo: the reason why this is the case is because information leaving your bubble would be distorded by that bubble itself when it leaves
alejandrozarzuelo: thus preventing the paradox, which would only create an illusion to the observer
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metaldragon01: Bruh! Use lymsys
sieventer: Google is the father of all the LLMs after all. I'm sure they will always have the last word ;D
spicy.lemonade: too much benchmarking
waspothegreat: nah I meant catch up as in google might not be at their full potential yet, idk though
brain4brain: Google seems like a great lab for AGI, however I will still believe in OpenAI as Google say AGI in 10 years
sieventer: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
spicy.lemonade: we are realy taking this new paradigm for granted lol
spicy.lemonade: if it wasnt here we would be hype asf for a 4.1 level model
okbut: Is this real? o4-mini for all free users?
spicy.lemonade: they may even have called it 5
okbut: This is hilarious, because I have a model_comparisons.json from just a few days ago showing that they were RLHF'ing for o3-mini-free
They're being whipped by Google so hard they can't even correct their RLHF quick enough
destrucules: o4 mini seems to match the capabilities of Grok 3 mini reasoning according to AA. Not exceed, match. Food for thought
spicy.lemonade: ?
okbut: I'm guessing there's a behind-the-scenes "super-low" reasoning effort
okbut: That being given to the "free" tier
okbut: Also hilarious note: the conversations.json indicated the split generation was comparing 4o to o1-preview for this
Are they so backed up that they haven't noticed this, or do they just not give a fuck
destrucules: If that's directed at me, check the ArtificialAnalysis website and compare Grok 3 mini reasoning to o4 mini
spicy.lemonade: o3 fails
destrucules:
destrucules: Look
destrucules: They're virtually identical to each other
okbut: The evaluation_treatment key values are some arbitrary categorization AFAIK (if you meant that being related to AA)
destrucules: No I meant AA as in ArtificialAnalysis
destrucules: I'm just tired of writing the whole name
okbut: They gotta pick a better acronym fr
destrucules: o4 mini is a good model, don't get me wrong. But the fact that Grok 3 mini Reasoning is *just as good* is *insane*
sieventer: aaaaaaa
trey6033: Definitely flash tomorrow
metaldragon01: Called it
sieventer: RIP OpenAI
destrucules: Am I the only one not excited about this?
okbut: Where can I find this bot
Btw I'm excited for 4/22
destrucules: Idk about y'all but for me, unless it's literally o1 Pro or o1 or GPT-4.5 or o3, I'm never limited by funds. I get Gemini 2.5 Pro for free. So like... Getting a dumber free model doesn't excite me
zoermena: For the love of god open ai can’t loose
destrucules: No it's not because I'm drowning in money, it's because a million tokens is a lot of fuckin tokens
destrucules: I spend like $10 a month on OR and a bit under $20 on Claude sub and that's it. And at this point idk why I have Claude sub
trey6033: I'm not in it, think it's Legit's discord
zoermena: Or is open router right?
destrucules: Are y'all out here really draining your wallets on models?
metaldragon01: Lymsys has them free btw
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spicy.lemonade: for example
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 was very short lived
spicy.lemonade: lasted like what
spicy.lemonade: 2 months
spicy.lemonade: 1.5?
spicy.lemonade: no 2
spicy.lemonade: also dude
spicy.lemonade: naming doesnt matter
spicy.lemonade: they can call it gemini 2.5322
spicy.lemonade: for all i care
spicy.lemonade: performance is what matters
spicy.lemonade: youre getting too hung up on naming
spicy.lemonade: agi could be gpt 4.7 for all i care
spicy.lemonade: as long as its agi
ailoveyoom: Idk tbh, if you want to get into the normie market I think it matters. Which is what OAI is doing, hence why 4o has always been named 4o in the model picker even tho there's been some updates made to it.
ailoveyoom: I guess Demis isn't a product guy tho
okbut: They really could've done 4o+
okbut: Mansplaining GPT's models now is like
spicy.lemonade: theres deepseek, xai, ssi, thinking machines lab, deepmind, nvidia, openAI, anthropic, tencent, bytedance, baidu
spicy.lemonade: i dont think any can affordslowing down
spicy.lemonade: i suppose meta is still in the game but they need an overhaul
spicy.lemonade: like google with bard
okbut: I'm only speaking from the normie perspective, which doesn't want floats and footnotes
okbut: I love the variety given by the iterative releases, but user side needs that uniformity
spicy.lemonade: normies still think ai is bad at math
spicy.lemonade: i stopped caring about normies
spicy.lemonade: one day theyl wake up and we have digital god
ailoveyoom: Tbh I wish OAI was less normie like, imagine if we had all checkpoints/updates of 4o available in the model picker lol 💀
spicy.lemonade: yk. the word normie everyone uses to describe an outsider to a subject. we are probably normies to the idk art and fishing community. but tbh this is the community where there are truly normies bc this has huge implications for all of their lives and they dont even know
spicy.lemonade: people who arent into singularity are the true normies
spicy.lemonade: exept maybe ufo subreddit
spicy.lemonade: but nothing ever happens for them
spicy.lemonade: its kinda sad
spicy.lemonade: 70 years of false promises
alejandrozarzuelo: this will make blue, azure, cyan, jade and green even more common favorite colors for humans
alejandrozarzuelo: this is the problem
alejandrozarzuelo: there is a gap between blue and green where we dont see very saturatedly
alejandrozarzuelo: we mainly distinguish colors between green and blue by value, not by hue
spicy.lemonade: Daniel k. made a good point in his interview. its good we came up with llms first before world models. from a saftey perspective
spicy.lemonade: llms truly understand the nature of what we are asking
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.wolfnacht: only available on IOS ?
zonchao: nope, but ios is more feature rich and stable
brain4brain: >“ like Deepseek”
.wolfnacht: yeah i saw that too, android version is far behind web version
brain4brain: Shrimp welfare and the AGI future
.wolfnacht: android doesn't even got persona's yet and custom instructions yet
st.sioux: i love shrimp
brain4brain: I’ve overestimated AI’s progress and AI lab’s competency, I will have to reconsider and might delay my AGI timeline
.0xunkn0wn: guys
trojan09205: I used to have some freshwater shrimp in a tiny tank and they were amazing
.0xunkn0wn: has anyone tested firebase studio?
.0xunkn0wn: this is another level of vibecoding
zonchao: yea they need to hire more devs
brain4brain: It’s so delicious
.0xunkn0wn: woah
trojan09205:
brain4brain: Isn’t it mech intrep AI lab’s that Anthropic invested in?
.wolfnacht: water cockroaches
st.sioux: i used it before, it was called project IDX, they renamed it to firebase studio like 3 days ago
st.sioux: they integrated a lot of firebase shit into it
st.sioux: its only next.js tho isnt it?
wolf3404: Not yet, I'll try
atrox5596: Hi, does anyone know of a facial expression interpolation model that can help transition a cut in a video?
brain4brain: 90 days now, 60 days incoming: https://x.com/amasad/status/1913078037236846623?s=61
wolf3404: Seem clunkier than Replit at first try here so far
brain4brain:
st.sioux: 90% by mid 2025 bro
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: so google releases asi by next week
mantegh5061: im creating cursor slop wish me luck soldiers
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/koshitan-cheering-you-can-you-can-do-it-do-it-gif-8135442752133174574
himekokatagiri: Where is AGI
bob082957: I asked gemenai to create swift ui in html. It can’t be done
sieventer: In my room, follow me...
_3sphere: :3
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: ???
spicy.lemonade: google
spicy.lemonade: holy
spicy.lemonade: openAI is fukin finished
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