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hikukomoru: What the fuck
hikukomoru: What is wrong with you guys
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
alejandrozarzuelo: Why?
hikukomoru: Do spanish people really just go around saying "kill jews"
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
hikukomoru: WTF
alejandrozarzuelo: There is a Visit León Announcement about that for foreign tourists
alejandrozarzuelo: To explain what it means
alejandrozarzuelo: So people don't get alarmed
alejandrozarzuelo: Because you will hear it on the streets all week
callmepyro: All in good fun!
himekokatagiri: No way
alejandrozarzuelo: In reality killing Jews just means drinking lemon juice
Because alcohol is supposed to not be drank on that week
himekokatagiri: Everyone forgets the Spanish exist
himekokatagiri: I speak Portuguese we don't say that
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a tradition of Leon
callmepyro: It's just a local tradition 🙂
hikukomoru: If you called it "kill Palestinians" instead of "kill Jews" you know people would be up in a riot
alejandrozarzuelo: I am not agreeing with the tradition, I am just saying that it is a popular expression that just means "drinking lemon juice"
callmepyro: Hey man, me neither!
himekokatagiri: They keep changing the victim
callmepyro: I'm on your side here, we're both just saying the phrases, no negative meaning behind them
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, in Castilla they take the holy week very very seriously
hikukomoru: The more I learn of Spain the more I hate it
himekokatagiri: I heard Spain was stuck in the 17th century till the 50s
hikukomoru: They are still stuck in the Inquisition
himekokatagiri: that sounds rad somehow imagine the adventures to be had
himekokatagiri: pirates in the 50s
alejandrozarzuelo: They also dress up in KKK clothes
Well, in reality the KKK copied the catholic tradition, but it's also another thing tourists are warned about
The kkk copied the Spanish catholics not the other way around
alejandrozarzuelo: The costumes are very pretty
himekokatagiri: Alejandro stop glowing
himekokatagiri: I can you see from space chazzer
alejandrozarzuelo: The Spanish holy week traditions are quirky like that
himekokatagiri: I'm gonna drop a strong truth here
himekokatagiri: God isn't real
hikukomoru: Yeah you guys are fucked like that
himekokatagiri: I know right
hikukomoru: What about ASI god
himekokatagiri: is it a god if it exists
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perish0801: Exactly
perish0801: I guess you’ll have to do it while you’re alive first
perish0801: To see if you can transfer the consciousness
3ds0662: but you still die
perish0801: Well the physical body does not the consciousness
3ds0662: there is no transferring consciousness though it only works and exists in that body
perish0801: We don’t know yet
perish0801: ASI could solve that
3ds0662: yeahhh
perish0801: Just replicate the brain digitally
perish0801: And transfer the signals
memlaswaif: U can put the brain in a jar
3ds0662: futurama
3ds0662: lol
perish0801: I have a few of my victims
sarik0497: Who knows. I can only come with predictions.
3ds0662: still not you
zoermena: They <@1362252890575605940> ed?
memlaswaif: no I'm curious why u think we will invent immortality and people still die of silly accidents
perish0801: Exactly
perish0801: You’ll have to just see first while your body is still alive
perish0801: Just go and come back to test it out
3ds0662: if asi solves death and aging it is truly asi but somehow I don't see that
perish0801: Yeah I’m not 100% sure it’ll happen either. At least not in our lifetime.
perish0801: Like 73%
sarik0497: Not necessarily true everywhere. Even here in Scandinavia where you get a lot of time off and government systems to help pay with the costs, people are still not having children for their own reasons.
3ds0662: maybe lifespan gets extended but solving aging just sounds unthinkable
sarik0497: Slowing/stopping age and immortality are two really different things.
3ds0662: wasn't that just introduced?
3ds0662: the whole pro birth thing
3ds0662: like japan and foreigners
perish0801: I’ll solve it
perish0801: I’m not dying
3ds0662: initiatives to be pro birthing kids again seem to be put in place wayyyy too late like way past where it could've been introduced
ailoveyoom: Or we can reset our lifespan ala that one jellyfish
ailoveyoom: Just be reborn 😈
3ds0662: hehe
st.sioux: what if a plane crashes on your house
3ds0662: solving aging I don't even think bryan johnson will escape death
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914342610027561444? 30 billion
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jonvi_1:
_cloudost:
_cloudost: any counter argument guys?
alejandrozarzuelo: the same way we call "disney" a style or we call "impresionism" a style (which was an insult originally) we can call ghibli a style
alejandrozarzuelo: your photos wont be ghibli, they will be ghibli-styled
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: guys
spicy.lemonade: they said they will continue to improve the model
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: i love openAI man
alejandrozarzuelo: r/therestofthefuckingowl
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain:
floortom_9: Thanks captain! Does it still work if the videos are not captioned or if the audio (English) of the speaker is a bit muffled in the video?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/csm_ai/status/1904640500470083895?s=46
.wolfnacht: /x/ and r/ufo would go crazy
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: how tf did openAI do this bro
spicy.lemonade: what kind of black magic
_cloudost: Never thought id feel the AGI in 2025
_cloudost: Gemini 2.5 and this native img gen changed my mind
spicy.lemonade: germini 2 made me feel agi
spicy.lemonade: the robot showcase
spicy.lemonade: and this
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 was good incremental update
_cloudost: idk, Gemini 2.5 responses havent disappointed me not even once
wolf3404: AI has been pretty ok at dad jokes for a bit I think, but this is really good, the whole illustration is quality no doubt.
spicy.lemonade: goated
maintcrew: the miyazaki quote about ai is misleading
maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/menhguin/status/1905209385468760290
maintcrew: this was what we has talking about omfg we got baited
spicy.lemonade: oh lol
spicy.lemonade: id have the same reaction
hikukomoru: I wonder how Miyazaki feels about all this
I hope he's mad
Cause it's funny
_cloudost: if he gets mad it'll be a very bad image for openAI
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maintcrew: yep every community goes to shit and gets filled with grifters if it becomes big enough
hey1_1hey: Is this a cat or a rat
trent_k: oh wow, i didn't catch that. pretty solid
hikukomoru: It's me
fractalcomputer: Roko is not a terribly intelligent person.
wellmeaningalien: r/singularity too
hey1_1hey: So rat then
maintcrew: so real
maintcrew: the discord too
wellmeaningalien: facts
wellmeaningalien: does anyone want my course
maintcrew: me me me
maintcrew: hysminea i heard u use gentoo
wellmeaningalien: dms 🤑
hey1_1hey: I dont think we give Zon enough credit. Sure he sucks off elon and trump a lot but atleast he actually likes AI
wellmeaningalien: yeah
fractalcomputer: Are you an applied mathematician and/or an ethicist? Because I want to throw you off a cliff.
hey1_1hey: What a based mf
maintcrew: no i am a productive member of society
wellmeaningalien: fractal whats wrong why you picked violence today
fractalcomputer: Ah, a pure mathematician it is.
spicy.lemonade: wow 3 months into 2025
spicy.lemonade: and we have all this
joaoluz19: Is stats applied math?
hey1_1hey: Whats an ethicist? Someone who is really racist or smth?
maintcrew: currently on arch linux but i really feel the itch of compiling everything on my computer myself
if i wanted to compile it with clang and the llvm toolkit is it possible
fractalcomputer: Slop.
spicy.lemonade: slop???
spicy.lemonade: 😭
hey1_1hey: Fractla if I could generate you and godel kissing would it change your mind?
fractalcomputer: An ethicist is a philosopher specialising in ethics.
wellmeaningalien: yes but beware those take a hell of a lot of time to compile lmao
hey1_1hey: EWWWWW
maintcrew: ai image generator is cool and all but it's literally mass slop generator
wellmeaningalien: u have a good processor?
hey1_1hey: Thats DISGUSTING
spicy.lemonade: how
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: Someone in this community tried generating pictures of me without my knowledge.
spicy.lemonade: could generate comics for anyone
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.histic:
anathemaofmankind: What a creative naming scheme
_cloudost: Anti AI people are sharing this without checking if it's a legit letter or not, just saw som anti posting it in another server
spicy.lemonade: no im sayong that the programmers saying that "ai cant translate code from one language to another" is dumb
spicy.lemonade: because thats what aider polyglot tests
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: and obviously it can
.histic: can't get sued for artistic style.
.histic: but yeah, they falled for it.
anathemaofmankind: Do antis even understand that
_cloudost: Antis don't take a moment to think
spicy.lemonade: AI is just beter human artists lol. technically human artists steal art
spicy.lemonade: how else do they devlop art styles
anathemaofmankind: That's why they became artists instead of programmers <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: these are 2 different comic book artists
spicy.lemonade: their style looks very similar
spicy.lemonade: is it stolen?
anathemaofmankind: Imagine if studio ghibli used AI in their project
That would be the funniest shit ever
brain4brain: In their defense, they were given IP right
spicy.lemonade: "the girls are gonna love this"
spicy.lemonade: wtf is he doing
spicy.lemonade: 10th pandering post
brain4brain: How ever one fundamental flaw is that style can’t be copyrighted and AI doesn’t steal
st.sioux: bro it's free pr
.histic: man is becoming a sycophant.
st.sioux: being anti ai is like the most normie take right now
brain4brain: This is the most annoying guy on twitter atp
brain4brain: The tide is slowly turning back again to pro-AI
a1c4p0ne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngX1nIvnMOM
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Dude we get it
spicy.lemonade: he isnt even an artist
spicy.lemonade: well yes he is
spicy.lemonade: but for music
spicy.lemonade: not drawing
.histic: one hit wonder
anathemaofmankind: Lil Tay or whatever her name is also posted pandering stuff
okbut: Damn maybe he is pandering to his art girl followers
Dude is always thirsting on ig / TikTok
okbut: Suno is getting there though so I wouldn't be surprised
st.sioux: > maybe
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ldj: and he'd probably say his is better
ldj: just like you'd probably say yours is better
ldj: if you didn't think yours was better, then ofcourse you wouldn't subscribe to that definition in the first place
literallyvarane: Someone could define AGI as being capable of winning on a rainy day in Stoke.
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: some peoples threshhold is when it can pick up a cat on the first try
ldj: based definition tbh
ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: But trying to argue about what is the more proper definition is pretty fruitless imo.
which is why I just have my own definition with its own name seperate from AGI, and whenever people ask me for my timelines I just give them my timelines for my specific definition and terminology.
ldj: HLSI <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: Speaking of which, I should make a poll for the cat thing
ldj:
gamerbath: lol that's extremely specific
.coldcall: Superhuman task.
.coldcall: Requires ASI.
gamerbath: why are there so many options? are all these options beyond 2027 for the pessimists?
gamerbath: cats a liquid, so it would be difficult to hurt one
spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t sound too hard
spicy.lemonade: Just make more sensitive
spicy.lemonade: No full grabs
.histic: i think a narrow-purpose (the right hardware and training) robot could handle this task today, assuming the cat is not erratic and there's enough time to complete it. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
gamerbath: ya'll are joking right? why are half the votes beyond 2028
777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/nikitabier/status/1912273556634730577?s=46
st.sioux: cats will see that shit and run
gamerbath: cats are chill
gamerbath: well... at least in my experience. we have an old and apparently deaf cat
st.sioux: yea idk mine is probably just too stupid
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
.histic: just get cats that are deaf, blind, and that doesn't feel physical pain and we can do it now. <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hikukomoru: We have very different experiences with cats
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey
futurist_wizard: My cat is quite a chill boy
metaldragon01: We live In the dumbest timeline
ldj: I feel like this might be another deepseek situation lol
777agical: in what sense
ldj: in the sense that people are creating big movements in the stock market based on misinterpretations of the news and/or false news all together
ldj: looks like this has already been settled as of just a few days ago:
777agical: so buy calls, got it
.wolfnacht:
ldj: also the chart in the tweet is kinda misleading
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metaldragon01: Try nightshade!
shirethedreamer: people in this chat were shitting on gpt 4.5 when it came out...
shirethedreamer: like it cant be any more self evident than that
retrerox: And its aside from my main salary
memlaswaif: I don't think there r too many of these big improvements left before we hit actual agi
retrerox: Is just extra benefits aside of my normal Salary
shirethedreamer: pennies... or dollars?
retrerox: 200 Euros
retrerox: Aside from my wage and Mealcard ofc
shirethedreamer: that makes much more sense than the lithium mine slave i was imagining
memlaswaif: R u in India or something
metaldragon01: GUYS go use the new Google coder!
retrerox: Me?
retrerox: I'm not but i can spot computer that has virus pretty easy
shirethedreamer: its out?
777agical: inference time compute scales crazy fast
literallyvarane: It’s out?
retrerox: Do you think is worth to pay for chat gpt?
777agical: yes
retrerox: having extra tokens to make memes seems worth for me
shirethedreamer: you can easily use a cheaper or free service first that would help you decide
steven_the_frog: You talking about quasar?
retrerox: ~~In that way i wont need to make 100 accounts using a temp mail service ~~
memlaswaif: <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/chad-gif-22427217
shirethedreamer: came in
shirethedreamer: dropped this bomb
shirethedreamer: refuse to elaborate
shirethedreamer: leave
retrerox: Elaborating stuffs are for AI's
shirethedreamer: true
shirethedreamer: anyway yeah he meant the new quasar release
shirethedreamer: https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
steven_the_frog: Oh boy we get a dwarkesh podcast companion to the ai-2027 story https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU?si=gjApOZBh8j30LSyZ
steven_the_frog: There goes my entire day
memlaswaif: It's a cool podcast <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
st.sioux: is it good?
shirethedreamer: didnt try it
shirethedreamer: best interviews in the ai scene
literallyvarane: Idk I’m into the podcast and these two aren’t selling me very much on their argument.
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spicy.lemonade: mod thinks its my work
darkstar0818: The Roko Basilisk will remember.
aero447: I have to say I still don't agree with passing off AI art as real.
aero447: That said yeah.
spicy.lemonade: lol different server
spicy.lemonade: fuck
spicy.lemonade: gotta generate new one
spicy.lemonade: my persona is a furry
spicy.lemonade: they them
spicy.lemonade: btw
spicy.lemonade: too keep it authentic
aero447: In many domains, t's very hard to tell.
spicy.lemonade: YOU GUYS ARE BLOWING MY COVER
spicy.lemonade: 💀 '
spicy.lemonade: lmao
trent_k: do u know these people irl
spicy.lemonade: nope
trent_k: oh perfect
spicy.lemonade: whats bro about to do
trent_k:
spicy.lemonade: 😭
ailoveyoom: Your fault for posting the link here lol
ailoveyoom: You know how weird people are here 😭
.wolfnacht: finally after getting their trust, u should reveal it was all made by an AI and watch their reaction.
spicy.lemonade: that was the plan
wellmeaningalien: trent being trent
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/haha-classic-duck-smoke-duckling-gif-1257181907758262423
spicy.lemonade: . good fursona or nah
wellmeaningalien: YUP
ailoveyoom: How did you find this server anyway?
spicy.lemonade: just looked up art servers
alejandrozarzuelo: say that this is your OG fursona
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: yeah gonna say i drew this
spicy.lemonade: as a kid
ailoveyoom: I need an equivalent but for writing ngl 😔
spicy.lemonade: havent drawn recently
ailoveyoom: Like a server
.wolfnacht: someone post it on r/mademesmile with caption "my 6 yr old daughter drew her first art"
trent_k: change the filename
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spicy.lemonade: Llama 4 trust
.0xunkn0wn: i need it rn 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: Apparently the main 4 candidates are:
Tagle the philipino who is a progressive and the successor of Bergogliohe would be the continuitionist candidate
Parolin the Italian would be the moderate compromise candidate between the left and right wings
Turkson the Ghanan would be more left wing than Bergoglio but more conservative on social issues
Erdos the Hungarian would be the conservative candidate
.wolfnacht: behemoth might be delayed till oct or nov now.
.wolfnacht:
nsec: POPE OF THRONES
nsec: <:bung:1015972377705861162>
.wolfnacht: Next one might be a filipino 🔥
alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully it is tagle, he seems like the best candidate to continue bergoglio's legacy
.wolfnacht:
alejandrozarzuelo: it literally is an elected monarchy akin to the early middle ages, so yeah
fractalcomputer: I hope not. I'm not terribly fond of people like Francis or Tagle.
alejandrozarzuelo: you should be the kind of person who likes tagle and bergoglio, since they are the pontifex that do the most to reduce the violence people like you could suffer on the streets
alejandrozarzuelo: but, as a wise man from this server said to me in the dms, there is a kind of person that in their privilege votes/prefers people who go against their material interests
fractalcomputer: Francis and Tagle are both weak men, and even weaker—even flacid—spiritual leaders.
alejandrozarzuelo: ok, thats not what I said
fractalcomputer: And what would be that kind of person, Spaniard?
fractalcomputer: Indeed, that is what *I* said.
alejandrozarzuelo: neuroatypical gay man
.wolfnacht: most likely an italian and preferably him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matteo_Zuppi
fractalcomputer: Curious. Say, do you think my opinion would be any different if I were neurotypical?
fractalcomputer: The Italian bishops are weak as well.
trojan09205: Its kind of curious that francis upheld the ban on joining freemasonry
fractalcomputer: God willing we'd have that Robert Sarah on the Papal throne, but alas—religions have always been about human politics.
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont know, I just know that both tagle and bergoglio have been very supportive of these two collectives you happen to be a part of, and their efforts directly benefit you by changing public opinion and reducing the violence people like you could experience
alejandrozarzuelo: most likely?
alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully not an european
alejandrozarzuelo: the church already has too many of those
fractalcomputer: I mean, Alejandro, do you think I should care? Do you think I am unaware of the fact that there are people who would readily beat me up, knowing the truth of who I am?
alejandrozarzuelo: You should care because people like you are safer in a world where bergoblio and tagle are in the papacy
fractalcomputer: Violence is the only way by which violence can be prevented.
fractalcomputer: Violence is the language that people like them understand.
fractalcomputer: But that would be a very dull and boring world. And I'd rather have people of honest faith hate me than deal with lukewarm cowards.
trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/love-and-war-defi-war-token-war-this-means-war-gif-8974606620591130102
trojan09205: Elevation of personal and collective consciousness is the way imo
fractalcomputer: Reading Kabbalistic texts lately, eh?
trojan09205: Lol 😂. Not really, no. But eckhart tolle is great. Im really not reading much so much as practicing the approach
fractalcomputer: I find Tolle a bit boring. Have you read Meister Eckhart's corpus of sermons?
trojan09205: I have not my dude. Just poked around some summary websites - good stuff?
trojan09205: I like tolle’s simplicity and consistency
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trojan09205: local LMArena 😄
spicy.lemonade: L ui
trojan09205: its packaged with this aichat software
trojan09205: when u serve it locally
st.sioux: hackerman
a1c4p0ne: I want to see o3 play Pokemon
trojan09205: i actually have built a few RAG apps at work with aichat its pretty dope
.histic: OpenAI is giving ChatGPT Plus to students in the US for 2-months, while Google is now doing the same but for 1 year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k1imn7/google_is_gifting_a_year_of_gemini_advanced_to/?sort=new
trojan09205: easiest way to get shit as a rest endpoint with [fill in model] and can run on a peanut server
trey6033: Competition is good
trojan09205: im actually surprised i have access to o4 mini as a tier 1 api user
st.sioux: o4 mini's answer is so much better holy
a1c4p0ne: Which answer do you like more and agree with
trojan09205: that was the first question ive ever asked o4 mini lol. just modified my config file. definitely o4 mini 🙂
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
trojan09205: i wasnt even sure that the request would go through with the name 'o4-mini' as the model name haha
a1c4p0ne: O4 mini didn’t get a high score on simplebench tho
trojan09205: im curious how much i just paid for those answers
.histic: a life's worth
trojan09205:
trojan09205: woot woot
trojan09205: i only have .20 left in my api budget lol. havent refilled it in like at least 6 months or more
trojan09205:
trojan09205: hot damn o4 was way better
.coldcall: https://tenor.com/view/youve-gotta-go-faster-stan-marsh-south-park-s8e4-the-passion-of-the-jew-gif-22284095
trojan09205: o4's whole syrian refugee example and shorter approach to getting a practical message across just destroys this whole microchip magic drawn out thing o3 did
st.sioux: check if you are eligible for data sharing they give you free tokens, like 250k a day for o3
trojan09205: oh wow that is nice. thanks for telling me. gonna check
trojan09205: i dont see anything on my data sharing settings i think im not eligible 😦
trojan09205:
st.sioux: rip
trey6033: https://x.com/jxmnop/status/1913071028869214694
This true chat?
trojan09205: its all good im basically a scrub to them lol
trojan09205: i think ive spent like lifetime maybe $15 max with openAI and ive done a shit ton of stuff with the speech models and embeddings- but i usually just use the cheapest chat models available
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 is best at data analysis
spicy.lemonade: wait bruh i asked for frontier math
trojan09205: im curious which models groq cloud is distributing these days
trojan09205:
trojan09205: allam is apparently an arabic model. tried it out just now
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zoermena: I still want to augment myself, more than anything because my health is ass
fractalcomputer: I've been on the subreddit for roughly a decade.
spicy.lemonade: yes. we wanted ASI such that we can merge with it
rayanquitplayin: Hi
spicy.lemonade: neuralink and all that
fractalcomputer: The last time I saw someone writing such nonsense was in 2020.
spicy.lemonade: because thats not the topic at hand
spicy.lemonade: and neuralink doesnt have as many breakthroughs as openAI
spicy.lemonade: in 2020 ai news was slow
spicy.lemonade: tech news was slow
spicy.lemonade: nothing was happening
spicy.lemonade: people were just saying anything
fractalcomputer: Right, so it *is* about latching on to the least signs of progress.
spicy.lemonade: but its not the least sign
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: its the clearest sign of progress
fractalcomputer: Yes, all has been quite insignificant, lol.
spicy.lemonade: its the fastest growing scientific field of all time
trey6033: Nah, chat needs more roasting
spicy.lemonade: wdym insignificant
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: within 3 years
fractalcomputer: Take for example your beloved Olympiad problems; seemingly incredible progress in mathematical reasoning and yet *zilch* actual progress in mathematical research has been engendered by this progress.
spicy.lemonade: bro its been 6 months
spicy.lemonade: since an AI could solve
spicy.lemonade: an olympiad problem
zoermena: We’ve seen improvements in imaging and screening for diseases using new AI
fractalcomputer: And?
trent_k: Radical self improvement vs being dominated by something more powerful than yourself. It's no surprise people are more familiar with the latter
spicy.lemonade: 2 years ago it couldnt even do algebra
spicy.lemonade: give it a year
fractalcomputer: Is the time frame supposed to be an issue?
spicy.lemonade: openAI just released a benchmark for research
spicy.lemonade: yes?
fractalcomputer: Shouldn't we await a digital God in two years?
spicy.lemonade: what
spicy.lemonade: I dont understand your point
st.sioux: fractal is a timeless entity
spicy.lemonade: lol
rayanquitplayin: Fractal high fasho
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joaoluz19: I want this environment with daddy Fractal ngl
sarik0497: If you ask very, VERY nicely, you might be allowed to talk to him over voice.
spicy.lemonade: still cant solve this:
but tbh im starting to doubt the question writer
spicy.lemonade: at this level
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: perhaps hes wrong
spicy.lemonade: its off by a factor of 1/2
spicy.lemonade: idk who is wrong
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 or person who wrote
spicy.lemonade: answer is supposedly pi^3/96
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 got pi^3/48
gamerbath: why don't you solve it urself?
literallyvarane: Can we confirm if this is real?
literallyvarane: Feels like a violation lolololooo
gamerbath: LOL
spicy.lemonade: theres a video on how to solve
spicy.lemonade: but involves pulling out external principles
spicy.lemonade: and doing manipulations
spicy.lemonade: im wondering if an error couldve been made there
spicy.lemonade: its not o3 full level
spicy.lemonade: thats for sure
spicy.lemonade: its above mini high
spicy.lemonade: faster and cheaper
.wolfnacht: ratio OpenAI Fast....
.wolfnacht: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136230110891081821/1332776133959352370/sam_altman_this_is_fine.gif
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/z6KiwXT_yAM
spicy.lemonade: ok this week makes up for nothing burger
spicy.lemonade: of last week
literallyvarane: Confirmed real
literallyvarane: Also;
literallyvarane:
literallyvarane:
drewsni:
hikukomoru: So much is happening
fractalcomputer: Why am I being sexualised.
.wolfnacht: then we'll go and scream AI winter for a month...
ldj: Still behind both Boston dynamics and unitree
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht: lmao, i exactly remembered this meme when i saw the image above
spicy.lemonade: holy shit after using it more
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maintcrew: i am know for my magnimous heart i gave money for whiskey to some indian dude here
hey1_1hey: It actually does to some degree
hikukomoru: Wtf
hey1_1hey: I became less autistic after lifitng for a while
maintcrew: shit just go eth is easier to cash out as well
hikukomoru: Doesn't sound like it worked to be honest
futurist_wizard: bruv lifting what
st.sioux: poor kid is getting groomed
hey1_1hey: 3 sets of 8 on benchpress (0.1g)
hikukomoru: What the fuck is testosterone going to do to me dude I don't even need it
wellmeaningalien: damn ok
wellmeaningalien: i'll have to install another wallet then
hey1_1hey: (Send help)
wellmeaningalien: program thing
maintcrew: wtf do u have then
maintcrew: like any coin
wellmeaningalien: hell i'll just find a website where you can just cash out faster
wellmeaningalien: like im used to bitcoin and shit but oh hell i'll just find a site
wellmeaningalien: i dont use like any crypto platform cause ion wanna give out my id but i think u can do it on some sites
futurist_wizard: i could bench you 27 times for reps
wellmeaningalien: ILL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT
maintcrew: i can send u bitcoin ig
hey1_1hey: I was getting close to benching myself once 🦾
futurist_wizard: nice
hey1_1hey: Bluds benching 1350 kg
hey1_1hey: For reps
hey1_1hey: easy
a1c4p0ne: Is he more jacked than you based on his ghiblified pic
wellmeaningalien: ok whatever ur not on ur laptop rn anyways right
futurist_wizard: no
hey1_1hey: I weigh 50kg
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
hey1_1hey: Its not even gonna be close
wellmeaningalien: ethereum has less fees right we'll do that
hikukomoru: I can't seriously imagine you ever picking up a weight
a1c4p0ne: How often do you lift
futurist_wizard: im 79-80kg and i can bench 100
a1c4p0ne: What’s your diet like
zoermena: I will start my routine again tomorrow.
maintcrew: figure smth out i need to go
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wellmeaningalien: that's like asking why is 70% on SWE BENCH impressive we gotta see the other benchmarks first.
st.sioux: do you have any link to their stuff? i googled it and cant find anything
wellmeaningalien: that said I'd still be skeptical of any Twitter leaker
st.sioux: just a rover
wellmeaningalien: eurocope
alejandrozarzuelo: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2025/03/18/best-in-world-humanoid-robot-to-launch-in-june--in-europe/
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not the best Android, but it will be the best CONSUMER Android
alejandrozarzuelo: Because the other companies aren't selling to the average person
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> Lets goooo this was exactly what I was waiting for
joaoluz19: A study from MIT
wellmeaningalien: cool
st.sioux: doubt it
st.sioux: going b2c with androids specially when the market is so small and underdeveloped is stupidly risky
hey1_1hey: This guy is so cooked its unbelievable
hey1_1hey: I hope hes chocking for this sake 🙏
hey1_1hey: Joking*
drewsni: I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and maybe he means AI art can’t be copyrighted?
hey1_1hey: If I remember correctly it was on a video about AI ads and how they are becoming more prevalent
drewsni: Oh
drewsni: So he’s just retarded
hey1_1hey: Yeah pretty much. Thats how it goes in the wild west of youtube comments
st.sioux: youtube comments are wild
st.sioux: there are tons of bots promoting crypto scams
st.sioux: like a ridiculous amount
sarik0497: Admittedly, I haven't really looked too much into the SWE-benchmarks to say how much it means, but I know that the ARC-AGI test is only a good test for AI on its first attempt.
If most humans can easily get 70-80% done on this and any other similar test, no matter whether it's 5 years old, or if it'll be made in 5 years, but an AI can get 80%+, only to drop down to 20% when a new one comes out, it doesn't really show that the AI has evolved in that category, but rather that it has just been trained on that data (like that whole Strawberry question).
In comparison; If I went and took an IQ test and got a score of 110, but then did it again, and again, and again, until I got all the answers right and it told me my IQ is at 180, that would not mean that my IQ is now 180 but just that I have cheated my way to that level.
sarik0497: Inb4 some dum dum asks "What if I use an iPhone? Can I still buy it?" <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
alejandrozarzuelo: I hate how one smartphone company "stole" the name android for themselves
gamerbath: if that's the case then i'm donating all my wordly possessions to china and tattooing deepseek supremacy on my forehead
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903132796157079584 This guy is such a bullshitter its crazy. If I owned a lab this would be the LAST person I would be giving access to
metaldragon01: I mean...it's not impossible just unlikely. It's certainly possible though
metaldragon01: Blocked him a long time ago
gamerbath: obviously the guy has agents positioned in all the major AI companies and they leak access and info to this guy. some of the agents just troll and give misleading info sometimes
sarik0497: Believing the guy is just stupid.
hey1_1hey: I might aswell, he brings nothing of value to me
joaoluz19: If China gives me a hot non-uncanny robot I'll become a communist
hey1_1hey: This guy probably couldn't tell me what a while loop is <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
gamerbath: he doesn't need to when he has R2 to do it for him
hey1_1hey: Indeed, hes just very good at talking for a long time. Thats about it
hey1_1hey: 🤯 you're right. He has R2 confirmed
st.sioux: you just made me realize that i have used a while loop maybe 3 times since i left college and i spend 1/3 of my life in front of an IDE programming
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clevermoniker: I haven't finished reading it but i assume it ends with all of us dead, so i don't know why you think that is cool
st.sioux: theyre just edgy
hikukomoru: Danserk or jgudy?
zonchao: <a:wave:1145412732913459281>
st.sioux: danserk idk about jgudy
st.sioux: i just remember jgudy sent a gif of the twin towers once or some shit
st.sioux: it ends with ai wiping humans by 2030
hikukomoru: Yeah jgudy is a gay British somalian
hikukomoru: I don’t remember him ever being actually racist
st.sioux: you can look up his chat messages or something idk
st.sioux: idk i just said thats what i remember
memlaswaif: oh wow danserk is dead
zonchao: wait what
zonchao: did he leave
zonchao: my twin 😭
memlaswaif: <@590577270926868480> it's ure turn next
hikukomoru: Yeah he left
hikukomoru: The racism allegations got to him
hikukomoru: He got cancelled
zonchao: ah well he didn't leave the gc
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: I'm not gay
zonchao: <a:Kissahomie:784920046782644344>
clevermoniker: i read it now, yeah, that sucks (its more like 2032 not 2030, 'mid-2030')
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/teslaeurope/status/1908573920296415451? lesgooo
okbut: EU getting grieved by USA
theaiguy69420_89814: Good evening
.wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> L4 shit itself. sadly
https://eqbench.com/creative_writing_longform.html
.wolfnacht: the repetition is awful.
_cloudost: Can't spell Llama 4 without L
zonchao: is it over for meta?
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: they should focus on droping nice papers
.wolfnacht: gemma3-4b writes better than L4(400B)
.wolfnacht: it's over
memlaswaif: mihr came back from the grave for no reason and killed him
zonchao: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1908593260223775043?
.histic: despite LLama 4 release, everyone on my tl is silent..
.histic: quiet day.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the calm comes before the storm
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hey1_1hey: How'd you know
hikukomoru: Holy based
hey1_1hey: This hurts my brain
hey1_1hey: silly light mode
maintcrew: ok i guess? idk i havent used windows in 5 years i dont remember the names
joaoluz19: Crazy that I was criticizing big tech and all it took was Sam allowing photos of hot women for me to forget
hey1_1hey: Monkey brain engaged
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dipshinn-dipshinn2-gif-9308187791349236072
joaoluz19:
gamerbath: there was so much space here before between the message input thing and the actual messages
fractalcomputer: Indeed.
joaoluz19: Eew pure math
gamerbath: now the input box has too much padding and there's too little spacing for between input box and messages :<
spicy.lemonade: now ASI will make us kurgzgesagt comics for every new discovery it makes
.histic: we got AGI folks
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jjt3av/gpt4o_flawlessly_passes_the_wine_test/
.histic:
hey1_1hey: Yeah like come on you got me fucked up
joaoluz19: I asked Sora to make them prettier and it actually did lol
hey1_1hey:
hey1_1hey: Do it again
hey1_1hey: Make them litterly a congnito hazard
st.sioux: wait until you discover stable diffussion
hey1_1hey: Anyone who sees them immiedtly starts drooling
spicy.lemonade: how am I in sanfransisco and it still hasnt rolled out to me
gamerbath:
gamerbath: why is the sticker grayed out?
gamerbath: I can't use it
joaoluz19: Problem is that my PC is trash and i don't have money to image gen other than gpt
777agical: https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/1904627541966790777?s=46
joaoluz19: FINALLY
st.sioux: you can run it on docker and host it on aws if you're into that sort of thing
st.sioux: idk how expensive it would be tho
spacetimetsunami: Looks like all my exes
clevermoniker: about 4o image generation:
> It's predicting hiearchically autoregressively
> The first part is predicting high level features
> One might call it a "plan"
joaoluz19: Yes, I can only do it with free alternatives and now we have image gen on gpt so...
drewsni: whos the one that made the poop 3d model
st.sioux: me
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: yeah
drewsni: that was openai point-e after literally 3 hours of compute lol
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hey1_1hey: "*sighs*... You successfully are now engaged to the local priests daughter... what would you like to do next"
artemisfowl887394: We should have a game night, I wanna see all these nerds in an RPG module of an AM scenario
artemisfowl887394: Sorry, Basilisk scenario
artemisfowl887394: Much better
joaoluz19: We need a good DM 👀
sarik0497: Bang the priest…?
wellmeaningalien: and china suffered the loss of manchuria at the hands of the japanese, followed by a civil war, followed by a mass famine
hey1_1hey: Roll strength please
sarik0497: …fuck, nat 1
hey1_1hey: A sad display of sexual tension gets going, your ED kicks in and the preist asks whats taking you so long...
fractalcomputer: There's a game I like called Fear and Hunger: Termina, where a priest character, a secret cultist of an eldritch deity, strips down in the middle of the fight before unleashing some kind of infernal spell upon the player characters.
ailoveyoom: Nooo it should've been we got dominated by the priest <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
ailoveyoom: The priest rides you till you see stars or something
fractalcomputer: Coincidentally made by a Finn.
hey1_1hey: In the bedroom people like to call that having a good time, doctors call it hypoxia
sarik0497: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
maintcrew: the mass faminine was before they were rich
maintcrew: they got rich after mao died
maintcrew: due to deng basically
wellmeaningalien: what about germany and japan
maintcrew: europe was rich and got hit by 2 world wars back 2 back completely destroyed the empires especially britain
theaiguy69420_89814: Why is there so much sexual stuff in this channel now?
wellmeaningalien: japan was somewhat well off before ww2 and became extremely well off after
maintcrew: japan was and is an us protectorate but germany idk they just working a lot or used to at least
theaiguy69420_89814: Terribly stuck feelings and imagination coming from this crowd...
maintcrew: they were well off millitarily afaik
maintcrew: not economically
wellmeaningalien: all of yurop recovered economically pretty dam wel
maintcrew: absolutely untrue
maintcrew: they went from controlling the world
maintcrew: to second class citizens
maintcrew: they all lost all of their empires
wellmeaningalien: it was a long time coming even before the world wars
maintcrew: perhaps the colony independence waves wouldve happened anyways but the old empires wouldve kept their old wealth storages
maintcrew: ww2 completely drained them and made them reliant on the us
wellmeaningalien: london had already lost it's place to new york and the likes as the world financial hub despite still holding onto its empire
maintcrew: i mean true but its not related
maintcrew: what im trying to say
maintcrew: pre world wars europe
> masters of the old world (everything except americas and a few countries)
maintcrew: post world war
> strong economy (decades after) but basically no say or power on the world stage
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metaldragon01: Just completely dominating the opensource ecosystem globally
metaldragon01: A year maybe 2 from now you'll have opensource ai on your phone that can talk, see and educate you on your surroundings
metaldragon01: And it's likely coming out of China and not the west
sarik0497: If you told me just a year ago that I'd be cheering for China, I'd have laughed you out of the room.
What a fucking weird timeline. Is this the AI overlords controlling our simulation getting bored of us and now just fucking around like I did with my Sims characters as a child?
metaldragon01: It will save countless lives
sarik0497: Honestly, the first AI agent that can be used for phone and smartwatches will be a godsend.
himekokatagiri: If it's open source then the US can just take it, slap a made in america badge and call it a day
sarik0497: Come on, Apple, do your thing.
himekokatagiri: Why is china doing open source again
metaldragon01: Why do you think they have. 06 and 1.6b models with function calling?
himekokatagiri: I doubt it's from the kindness of their hearts
metaldragon01: They are designed for mobile
metaldragon01: Bruh empathy and helping others is also a selfish act
metaldragon01: You benefit from the goodwill you accumulate
metaldragon01: People get the opposite idea in their head and suffer for it
sarik0497: To cause chaos in the U.S.
The environment with the U.S. and other parts of the world is not exactly the best right now, and thus a lot of countries will be hesitant to use their AI products, but will be forced to at some point to stay competitive. If China comes out with a model that's almost as good that's open-source, they might lose a lot of money, but it'll cause the rest of the world to rely less on US products, and potentially even create a better outlook for themselves.
metaldragon01: Learning how and when to actually spend that goodwill matters
himekokatagiri: if china charges money people will go to the US
sarik0497: It's the same tactic the U.S. used after WW2. By helping out the European nations, they not only produced a crapload of goodwill, but they also sold a lot of products to their new allies, while making sure communism was slowed down.
metaldragon01: Soft power is king
sarik0497: Ah, but that's the thing. I know that a lot of European nations are hesitant on the U.S. right now, so unless they are outright forced to buy their products, they'd probably go somewhere else. If China produces that product, they'll find a new trade partner there, while also producing some goodwill.
himekokatagiri: Europe is lol
himekokatagiri: they won't even make their own AI
himekokatagiri: China just borrows from US research and at least personally I think whatever since AI should be free
sarik0497: They are still an economy global power. Just far behind in terms of producing software products.
sarik0497: There's a reason why companies like Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and such have bent over now and then when EU has demanded it.
metaldragon01: China isn't just borrowing from US research and if anything they are on par or ahead of the US.
The only temporary constraint they have is compute
sarik0497: Indeed, and they are working hard on fixing that
himekokatagiri: Deepseek is literally the Norinco of AIs
himekokatagiri: anyhow when China inevitably gets compute we're gonna see some serious shit
metaldragon01: ......do you just not understand qwen 3 at all?
himekokatagiri: I don't even know what it is
himekokatagiri: I used deepseek once and based my opinion on that forever
himekokatagiri: because I don't like china
metaldragon01: Then you should probably avoid talking about Chinese AI confidently
sarik0497: Let's just hope they aren't stupid enough to try and take Taiwan. That'll only lead to a MASSIVE slowdown in the U.S., and likely make China a large target for the entire world, crumbling their own economy in the process.
metaldragon01: You can dislike something and still be objective
metaldragon01: I think it's even more important to be objective about things you personally dislike for integrity and sanity checks
metaldragon01: They don't need to. Time is on their side.
sarik0497: True, but sometimes people do the most idiotic things that make no sense
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hikukomoru: It's o3 mini
hikukomoru: From that poll thingy
spicy.lemonade: that better mean they have something way better
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950
zoermena: My schedule looks like this: wake up at 6:30 and have breakfast, go upstairs and shower and get dressed for work, in office from 8-1 then I go to class from 3 to 7/9 depending on the day.
hey1_1hey: Talk about hell. That sounds miserable
hikukomoru: What do you do for work
zoermena: At least the work is alright but I got cucked out of this months bonus, my class are heck though because there is no AC and the weather is 32 Celsius
zoermena: Im backend and CRM support in a financing company
zonchao: limits https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1906676081903489448?
hey1_1hey: "No aAC and the weather is 32C"
Oh my god you actually do live in hell
hey1_1hey: For 30 a month Elon better throw in a free handy every month as well for that price
zoermena: I usually hate my life. The only thing I have going for me is the paycheck, this server and 4o image gen.
hey1_1hey: Gets banned
"We are announcing that 4o image gen will be moved to the pro subscription"
<:doomer:1136265388473196644> <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
hikukomoru: I hope our silly convos make you smile at least🫶
zonchao: https://x.com/iScienceLuvr/status/1906790937604579430?
zoermena: They do. This is the only server where I have fun in nowadays.
realelonmuskx: the fundamental never ending problem with humans is that they are irrational. thats it.
.wolfnacht: See! things fall apart when the protagonist gets a slight hope of a better future.
hey1_1hey: I mean most people I know are pretty ratinol people
hey1_1hey: I think at least
.wolfnacht: they "react" rather than to "think".
zoermena: I have some in real life friends that believe in the singularity, id invite them but they are very toxic.
hey1_1hey: I just gibbyfiy femboy me and then I am better again. I've realised my baseline happiness is really quite high
ailoveyoom: Tbf thinking is hard 😔
ailoveyoom: And tiring 🥺
.wolfnacht: i read 'ratinol' and my first thought was Vitamin-A1
hey1_1hey: Thinking in a group is exhausting, thinking by myself is rejuvenating
hey1_1hey: I would love to hear the corolation there
.wolfnacht: damm u go girl, 💅
.wolfnacht: that's bcz of my nerdy past.
.wolfnacht: learn from Fractal
hey1_1hey: Funny skirt and thighs go woo
.wolfnacht: hawtt
hey1_1hey: I imagine fractal to just be constantly exhausted
hikukomoru: Posting yourself again hun
hikukomoru: You jus can’t help it can you
hey1_1hey: Yeah I like the photo
hey1_1hey: No, I really can't
hey1_1hey: I have terrible self-control
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himekokatagiri: I'll still keep my wicked personality though I wouldn't have it any other way
realelonmuskx: <@286319745777795092> okay you will be the mother of: ÆØNIXX-T³mp3st, GL!TCHNOVA_∞, BætaRayNürv, Ψ.X33–NEX7, NullahX_VR.cry, Xenæther.mkv, [REDACTED]-Unit09, Oxi∇thium.exe, N1V3RU-77, GΛ!A•404, CRYPT0LIL1TH, ZëroQ-Lüna94. is it good 4 u? repopulation is necessary
himekokatagiri: uhhhhh
himekokatagiri: honestly can't you rent out one of those what do they call it
himekokatagiri: it's like the matrix they grow children via some capsule
gamerbath: what tf did I just open discord to!?
zoermena: Ectogenesis mentioned???? <a:CatRoll:1037101256021397586>
himekokatagiri: idk sounds decent
himekokatagiri: do we need more people in the world after post scarcity
_3sphere: Elon Musk could discover an exoplanet and you wouldn't know if he named his kid after the planet or the other way around
himekokatagiri: like okay we can handle more
himekokatagiri: idk I'm already feeling the generational divide
himekokatagiri: Who's gonna relate to me in the future
himekokatagiri: I lived in such a specific moment in time
zoermena: Us <a:heart_eyes_animated:669958766514536458>
himekokatagiri: eeeeeeh I mean
himekokatagiri: I'm off kilter even for 2025 standards
himekokatagiri: idk
zoermena: Kilter?
himekokatagiri: whacky 😜
zoermena: You can’t be that whacky after all you are in this server
aero447: Yeah, he could call it "3sphere".
aero447: 🤣
aero447:
.wolfnacht: WE MUST DEPOPULATE
.wolfnacht:
otub: https://tenor.com/view/feel-agi-feel-the-agi-agi-openai-gif-3946555574686002473
technocake.: Has anything happened in ai in the last week?
technocake.: I haven't been paying attention
.wolfnacht: this week was literally the coldest week in AGI timeline bro
ailoveyoom: Full o3, o4-mini, Gemini 2.5 Pro and 2.5 Flash
ailoveyoom: When did 2.5 Pro come out again 💀
hikukomoru: Me!!!
fractalcomputer: No.
forallhumanity: https://x.com/stats_feed/status/1913927003075473866?s=46&t=v5zr8rnbNF4vMRbdGYmCIQ
otub: https://fixupx.com/willfaustcuber/status/1913884244784341069
futurist_wizard: Gpt will be very upset without it's please and thank yous
futurist_wizard: Millions must burn
otub: https://x.com/sama/status/1912646035979239430
professorheaven: Vision has a really long way to go
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spicy.lemonade: By house(not rent)
spicy.lemonade: Have stable job
spicy.lemonade: Make enough for kids education
spicy.lemonade: Avoid divorce
spicy.lemonade: Live happy fulfilling life doing hobbies
himekokatagiri: That's impossible
spicy.lemonade: With family trips on weekends
himekokatagiri: You can't do it
spicy.lemonade: Oh I was just daydreaming
spicy.lemonade: Or night dreaming I should say
spacetimetsunami: Lift, eat good, read a bunch.
spicy.lemonade: Minus reading
himekokatagiri: idk I feel I ain't gonna amount to much
spacetimetsunami: No
himekokatagiri: all I got are a bunch of crap jobs lined up
himekokatagiri: a worthless degree since I was ran over by cursor
himekokatagiri: which whatever it happens
spacetimetsunami: Just get into a good trade
spicy.lemonade: You’re cs major?
himekokatagiri: yeah maybe I should take the initiative
himekokatagiri: need to get some cash together
spicy.lemonade: Pivot to robotics
himekokatagiri: how the hell am I gonna get into that
spacetimetsunami: lol yeah
spacetimetsunami: Dude just get into astrophysics, become an astronaut
himekokatagiri: shit man I was thinking
spacetimetsunami: Idk maybe you could with a CS degree
himekokatagiri: I got nothing left
spacetimetsunami: Robotics
himekokatagiri: all I have banking on is the singularity
himekokatagiri: it's either that or mediocrity
himekokatagiri: however y'know idk if that's healthy
himekokatagiri: because it ain't a sure thing (the singularity)
zoermena: Feeling like crap is highly correleated with how you eat and sleep so try to fix that if it's within your possibilities
zoermena: Stay hydrated and make sure you are not lacking vitamins
spicy.lemonade: I’m fit and eat good and I manage to feel like crap everyday
zoermena: Proper sleep?
zoermena: But yes I do recall that you are usually very active, do you have any time to rest?
joaoluz19: The thing you can be sure of is that absolutely no pre-singularity achievement comes close to the singularity itself.
spicy.lemonade: Yes
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hey1_1hey: Close your eyes and open them again
.histic: yup
hey1_1hey: I'm always how I see myself in real life
hey1_1hey: Thats just a bit odd to me yanno, some times dreams feel like they last an hour but sometimes only 15 mins
hikukomoru: Everyone dreams every night
Most people just don't remember it
futurist_wizard: It's crazy hanging out with the homies who don't exist
hey1_1hey: Weakos, just get a better dream memory or smth
futurist_wizard: Why can't i just stay in dream land
futurist_wizard: It's very interesting there
hikukomoru: That's called FDVR, and it's not here yet
hikukomoru: Are you a little chibi mushroom
a1c4p0ne:
futurist_wizard: Dream dream
zoermena: I always dream but lucid dreaming is another level
hey1_1hey: Dream land is goated, you can just do the most ridiculouse shit. I can imagine in my head while in my dream that I want there to be a robbery but I already know theres going to be a robbery because I thought it so I preperare for it instantly and I just win and save the day.
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: Someone could psychoanalyze this
hey1_1hey: Do you just go through it like a movie?
.histic: that's true.
sometimes if i think about remembering my dreams it helps.
also, when i'm sick or my body is recovering from damage for some reason i start remembering my dreams.
hey1_1hey: You are the one to do that
futurist_wizard: Sometimes dream land is such bliss, but for me it can be extremely scary
futurist_wizard: The fucked up shit my brain generates
hikukomoru: I saw that rat
hey1_1hey: I used to get really quite bad dreams but thats when I had pretty bad depression but then I stopped being depressed one day and now I have good dreams almost exlusivly
hey1_1hey: Also no, sadly not
futurist_wizard: For some reason i find the dream i had last night very cool
hikukomoru: The only dreams I remember are the cataclysmic world ending ones
futurist_wizard: Even though it was some of the most fucked up imaginary my brain has ever generated
hikukomoru: I have lots of those
futurist_wizard: I have had many zombie end of the world dreams
hikukomoru: Like the moon crashing into earth or the sun swallowing earth or a giant tsunami flooding the world
futurist_wizard: I always get eaten and wake up before i get attacked
hikukomoru: I never die in my dreams because I am built different
metaldragon01: I'm starting to see "chatgpt told me" just about everywhere now.....
metaldragon01: Outside of ai spaces
hey1_1hey: I had an old friend (dont really speak to them anymore because they really were quite unstable) but anyway, they had realy horrible nightmares every night but she put it down to "the watcher" some omni opnipitent being that was in the dream, the craziest thing was that she drew it out and she even gave it pronouns and shit.
Actually schziophrenic stuff
ldj: https://tenor.com/view/chill-dude-chill-dude-im-just-a-chill-dude-just-a-chill-dude-gif-15385961914175037407
futurist_wizard: Stabbed by roadman dreams as well, ive had at least 3 of thoses, those are particularly scary because getting stabbed is something that could happen
hey1_1hey: I always get attacked in my dreams but I am freakishly strong and nothing really "hurts" per say, its more just I have an incredible rush of adrenakine in my dream some how
hey1_1hey: I have absolutly no idea how that doesn't wake me up
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precariousworlds.: gemini 2.5 pro cant run a nuclear powered submarine bro
destrucules: Neither can you, unless you allow for unbounded hypothetical learning trajectories, as you did when describing your scenario of joining the navy
anathemaofmankind: Do you guys know about this website. o4 mini seems to fail most of the hard difficulty ones.
https://projecteuler.net/
It seems far from solving current human math if it sucks at this
precariousworlds.: hip hip
gotta stay optimistic though
popsiclejohnithan: True.
precariousworlds.: There are other humans who can
And my current 'model' could learn how to command a submarine given enough time, Gemini 2.5 pro right now couldn't no matter how much time you give it
destrucules: I find the very last statement you just made patently absurd
precariousworlds.: its true
destrucules: You have watched too much AI progress to think that that's true
destrucules: There is no way you actually believe what you just said
precariousworlds.: why isnt it true
precariousworlds.: gemini 2.5 pro, as it is now, is not advanced enough to go learn how to command a nuclear powered submarine from scratch
destrucules: You are saying Gemini 2.5 Pro is the smartest possible LLM that could exist for the number of parameters Gemini 2.5 Pro has and the architecture it uses. That further training would yield no improvements in performance
precariousworlds.: a new model would be needed
destrucules: Yeah, you can't possibly believe that
destrucules: Because you have watched models with the same number of parameters and the same transformer architecture get dramatically better by training them longer
spicy.lemonade:
precariousworlds.: i mean if you go far enough with training it to specialise at that task it eventually becomes a new model de facto
darkstar0818: You become a new model every split second.
destrucules: By that logic, you can't become a submarine tech, because in doing so, you'd become a different human
anathemaofmankind: Example of one of the problems
destrucules: This is an extraordinarily difficult problem, wtf. It took me a good long while to figure out how it's even *possible* to solve this in an amount of time smaller than the age of the universe. What the actual fuck
fractalcomputer: I suppose you are kidding.
darkstar0818: Gimme an LLMs that has continoual learning from its context and the capability to be auto-prompted by the environment.
precariousworlds.: Yes but we are talking about one of the most complex real world physical activities you can do
A current LLM can't do that lol
precariousworlds.: No it's within the same architecture
You would have to create an entirely new one for Gemini
destrucules: No, not at all. It's only solvable in an amount of time smaller than the age of the universe because the answer is in mod 14^8
fractalcomputer: Right.
anathemaofmankind: 1159 people have solved it
destrucules: Out of how many attempts?
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't say.
Here's the leaderboard
destrucules: 90 minutes for first place... Sounds about right
destrucules: I think this would take me about 30 hours
retrerox: Good morning ☕
destrucules: Not including sleep and eating and going to work. 30 hours on-task
memlaswaif: hi destrucules
destrucules: Hi
memlaswaif: what's ure thoughts on o4 and o3
destrucules: If you believe current architectures and model sizes can achieve human-level or superhuman-level robotics altitude by training on enough of the right kind of data, then you believe that Gemini 2.5 Pro, given exposure to that data, would be able to pilot a sub
fractalcomputer: Computationally intensive problems are not terribly interesting. Seeking novel perspectives is much more enticing.
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spicy.lemonade: fantasy farytale world
spicy.lemonade: or
juweigege_54993: I put a lot of thought into it. Here's what I would do. Don't delete my first six or thirteen years of memory.
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: just dont delete memory at all
juweigege_54993: I am writing one even now.
.histic: is torturing an alzhimer patient that bad? 🤔
himekokatagiri: uhhhh I figure the trauma stays right
himekokatagiri: like physical
himekokatagiri: idk mental
juweigege_54993: It's a sci-fi fantasy like Star Wars with aSoIaF style plots.
himekokatagiri: lily how old are you
spicy.lemonade: ngl ill be in space fighting glorpos irl
.histic: Lily is 14
himekokatagiri: man I hate George Lucas
himekokatagiri: only good thing he did was American Graffiti
.histic: joking
himekokatagiri: idk if Indy was all him I'll assume not
spicy.lemonade: in the great war between earth(ai and human) vs kepler aliens
juweigege_54993: 19.
spicy.lemonade: while you guys will be in fdvr
st.sioux: i'll send one of my clones to help
himekokatagiri: don't, he'll touch your clone
himekokatagiri: inappropriately
st.sioux: 😦
spicy.lemonade: what if the aliens throw a vaccume bomb towards earth
spicy.lemonade: no more fdvr
spicy.lemonade: someone has to keep a lookout
himekokatagiri: why would aliens care
.histic: you will eventually become the alien to us.
himekokatagiri: if they have the tech to invade us
spicy.lemonade: maybe thats just their biology
joaoluz19: Pray for the machine god
spicy.lemonade: they grew up wanting to destroy others
himekokatagiri: oh so like us
spicy.lemonade: lol
himekokatagiri: I see
spicy.lemonade: nah ASI will be on vacation exploring the universe
spicy.lemonade: or something
himekokatagiri: however we developed moral components
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fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/pope-gif-9417854
xskydragon0: if we stop to think about AGI, that's nothing we can do. I think, we can only hope the thing will go well. Do you guys think that we can help the AGI go to a good place?
trojan09205: Yall see the article about dolphinGemma
alejandrozarzuelo: english isnt your native language is it
trojan09205: https://blog.google/technology/ai/dolphingemma/
xskydragon0: No, sorry. I'm trying to improve it.
alejandrozarzuelo: no worries, are you chinese?
alejandrozarzuelo: that sentence structure reminds me of mandarin
perish0801: Francaise
spicy.lemonade: Was going to say that
alejandrozarzuelo: maybe its an overcorrection because french doesnt have that sentence structure
alejandrozarzuelo: i'd know, i speak it
perish0801: Are there softwares that take control of your computer
perish0801: Oh no it doesnt
xskydragon0: Brazilian, I'm have a little problem with verbal time. I'm learned all by my self, so, maybe sometimes I change words. I guess <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
perish0801: I just said that
alejandrozarzuelo: its ok dont worry
spicy.lemonade: I'm trying to get involved in AI safety research at Berkeley now. Pivoted
alejandrozarzuelo: congrats
perish0801: I need to run a bot
perish0801: Like let a bot do stuff with my pc while I’m away
perish0801: How do I do that
trojan09205: Program it
perish0801: Great advice
spicy.lemonade: Depends on what you want to
Do. For General use case We don't have that technology yet
trojan09205: What sort of actions
perish0801: Like if I want it to open Twitter on my browser and Ragebait people?
xskydragon0: I'm hope you can change somethings to humanity in future, I'm trying to study a lot of AI. But has so many things to learn...
perish0801: Comment on stuff
perish0801: On the internet
perish0801: On different sites
perish0801: Just post stuff
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/harvey-dent-die-a-hero-or-live-long-enough-to-see-yourself-become-the-villian-gif-21468252
perish0801: If we don’t have that tech someone should make it
trojan09205: You would need to first get API/developer access to the specific site. Then you can set up a timed query/post request via maybe a CRON or Airflow job
perish0801: I’m sure we have the tech
perish0801: Oh that’s like plan ahead comments and posts?
perish0801: No I want like an LLM to talk and act like a human
trojan09205: I mean not necessarily. You could set it up to let an LLM do the posting for you and it can think in real time
Just add the API backend for the llm as the content generator
perish0801: I see
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destrucules: That too
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro deep research hallucinates
destrucules: Everyone hallucinates tho
metaldragon01: Ehhh not anymore than o3
okbut: Depends on the use case. Some of my codebases reap that million quick
a1c4p0ne: Haven’t compared the two
metaldragon01: Both really solid but not perfect
a1c4p0ne: Hallucinations will never be solved
metaldragon01: Humans do the same
zoermena: Im not draining my wallet for sure but I have OAI plus
metaldragon01: It's why stuff goes through so many reviews
destrucules: For power user coding I can see caring about price. So I guess for that, I can see Gemini 2.5 Flash being on the radar. But I feel like a lot of us in this server aren't power users for coding
a1c4p0ne: Give examples
okbut: Hallucinations are an essential
destrucules: That's the $20 tier right?
metaldragon01: A published book is reviewed at least 3x
zoermena: Yes
a1c4p0ne: What if it’s a emergency or important situation
destrucules: OpenAI has like fourteen different tiers lol sorry, thanks for confirming
okbut: PhD-level intelligence means fabricating information, but with justified true belief
zoermena: Lmao true
a1c4p0ne: True
a1c4p0ne: When will models surpass humans on simple bench
zoermena: Summer <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>
a1c4p0ne: Hopefully 🙏
destrucules: Sometimes it's better, in an emergency like that, to err on the side of hallucination just in case you're actually remembering an important piece of context. Like, say someone is going into anaphylactic shock, and the EMTs arrive and ask you if they're allergic to any foods they might have recently eaten, and you realize you have a fuzzy memory that might be a hallucination or misremembered from a totally different context, that *maybe* this person has a tree nut allergy, and there were some almonds in the food y'all were just eating, so you go "I think they might have a tree nut allergy, and we were having some almonds". This is pretty much the standard way human beings behave in emergency situations. They lean *into* hallucinations, because it's better to be wrong than to stay silent.
sieventer: No mames wey
a1c4p0ne: Which model would you trust the most in this situation
destrucules: In an emergency situation? That's a tough question. Probably Gemini 2.5 Pro
metaldragon01: Roughly 12 months or less
a1c4p0ne: Not o3 or o4 mini? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: Sooner the better
metaldragon01: o3 is the most reliable atm slightly
destrucules: Y'all I myself can only solve like a fifth of the SimpleBench problems because they're deliberately set up in a way where the right answer is stupid
destrucules: "right" answer
destrucules: """"right""""" answer
destrucules: It's a horrible fuckin test have y'all even tried it?
zoermena: I’ve only heard about it but I’ve never dug deep into any benchmark not gonna lie
a1c4p0ne: I haven’t and do you think a random person you find in public is smart enough to get a high score on it
thedon7075: results are out for simple bench
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ai9708: so be hopeful
himekokatagiri: waaaah
ai9708: aging is also an illness
himekokatagiri: I wanna meet you guys 😭
futurist_wizard: I wonder if i would actually cure my autism
futurist_wizard: People in here are neets fam
zoermena: I have a job
himekokatagiri: uhhh
himekokatagiri: in fdvrchat?
himekokatagiri: woh
himekokatagiri: we need a better name for it
himekokatagiri: and no metaverse is bad
sarik0497: Just turned 28.
hikukomoru: No thank you
sarik0497: 15 days ago in fact
zoermena: I wouldn’t be concerned about not getting life extension, just take care of yourself, don’t be stupid (you likely aren’t if you are here) and do regular check ups if you can.
fractalcomputer: A few more years left to get yourself crucified.
zoermena: Also happy birthday if that’s a good thing, unless you dislike getting older.
.wolfnacht: this reminded me of plants vs zombies r34 shit
himekokatagiri: why...
futurist_wizard: I hate birthdays
zoermena: What
hikukomoru: Actually ancient
futurist_wizard: I literally never want to celebrate birthdays
himekokatagiri: I like birthdays
.wolfnacht: 28 is ancient
hikukomoru: I hate birthdays
ai9708: 28 is ancient? what would that make me
.wolfnacht: i was abt to write the same thing
fractalcomputer: Suppose continued living would be morally wrong. Wouldn't that be wacky for the ethicists?
sarik0497: Depends. If nothing goes horribly, I can easily live into my 80s/90s (good genes), but the question is just whether things will die out again or not. We’ve pretty much plateaued in terms of the low-hanging fruits of age increase.
futurist_wizard: The oldest person here is mushroom
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-daioh-azumanga-osaka-freaky-chiyo-gif-10229037287366420080
hikukomoru: How old are you gramps
sarik0497: It’d also happen to you soon, old girl.
ai9708: 32
ai9708: surely there are older ppl here?
futurist_wizard: At least im not the oldest
hikukomoru: Trent is 50, and DarkStar is like 60
sarik0497: 5-10 years, depending on the source.
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_cloudost:
_cloudost: This is Gmod 10
drewsni: this will be the first ever anti ai video i watch
futurist_wizard: I don't like her, she's annoying af, anti ai was just obvious though, nobody likes ai
futurist_wizard: I'd say funky did the worst one as she cites nothing but other youtuber's criticisms of ai and then the rest of the video is full of the most trivial use cases of ai
futurist_wizard: Of course none of these guys mention alphafold, increase in programmer productivity, self driving cars
futurist_wizard: Nothing of significance
.histic: <@505313122802728972> i came back to this old generation. lol
futurist_wizard: A youtuber needs to just make pro ai videos
futurist_wizard: Be unique
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Breasts are overrated
.histic: wait until they find out how modern artist are making money.
.histic: coomer stuff.
futurist_wizard: Well back then artists didn't make shit either
hikukomoru: Kamaru 💔
.histic: i just realized that.. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Most artists have been brokies
hikukomoru:
st.sioux: someone tell them no one is stopping them from using their pencils
st.sioux: acting like drawing is now punishable by death
st.sioux: smh
futurist_wizard: They think the only way to be an artist is by having a 9 to 5
futurist_wizard: Absurd
.histic:
.histic: yeah, it's quiet funny.
.histic: TIL r/starvingartists subreddit is a thing.
.histic: most of it is coomer stuff
hey1_1hey: I realised you can get around rate limit restriction by just keep asking chatgpt to create the image and it will lower the time from like 6 hourst o 5 mins <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
jonvi_1: Anyone in tech I can chat to about a specific bizarre situation? lol
hey1_1hey: I'm just a professinal shit poster so I don't think I can help you sorry 🙏
_cloudost: Before AI art ,no one gave a fl"p about art
jonvi_1: Nw's
hey1_1hey: You can always just post out. Theres prob someone in here who can help
jonvi_1: Idk about posting in general, it's a bit specific haha. Has to do with uh, career stuff?
hey1_1hey: Ah I recomend <#1136231504440201216> then prob
maintcrew: so ur spamming ur friend and being annoying until he gives in
hey1_1hey: chatgpt isn't my friend bro 😭
hey1_1hey: Hes my husband of course 💪
maintcrew: almost had me
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alejandrozarzuelo: If north Korea was a person, its wealth would be so low that it wouldn't even be a known figure in a random Midwestern state if they lived there
futurist_wizard: Are computers even real in north korea
hikukomoru: Russia builds them a bunch of stuff
Maybe they could do something
futurist_wizard: They literally live like 1940's
alejandrozarzuelo: The only way that North Korea has anything is if Russia literally gifts it to them in exchange for bodies
rayanquitplayin: Yeah North Korea’s crazy
alejandrozarzuelo: They don't even have automatic controls in the metro (new York implemented this in the 60s and no other metro that I know of is analogic)
hikukomoru: The war in Ukraine might still be going on by the time AGI is achieved
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: My hero..
alejandrozarzuelo: The war on Palestine definitely will
I don't know when AGI will happen
But I know that there will be an israeli invasion of Palestine happening at that moment
hikukomoru: So Kim sends Putin malnourished soldiers in exchange for computers
rayanquitplayin: 100%
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW in Spain we have a modern saying for something that won't hold for long
"that will last less than a peace treaty in Palestine"
rayanquitplayin: The war in Palestine is so complicated
hikukomoru: Christ you guys are so cringe
hikukomoru: My hatred of Spain grows by the moment
alejandrozarzuelo: You forget that Portugal is also anti israeli pro Palestine
futurist_wizard: I went on holiday to spain when i was 12 and the water was murky
futurist_wizard: The country should've been nuked after that
rayanquitplayin: Sheeeesh
futurist_wizard: Thr mountains were cool though
rayanquitplayin: I don’t have a problem with Spain
futurist_wizard: https://x.com/ProseccoLiquido/status/1909666713227919843?t=aHEBiLXsV9uJ8D1W6Qo3VA&s=19
alejandrozarzuelo: Spain is alright
alejandrozarzuelo: I prefer France
hikukomoru: Idk
I'd need to see an opinion poll or something
rayanquitplayin: I went to Europe in middle school but I didn’t go to Spain
futurist_wizard: Spain is okay i plan to go sometime
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh well, here's hoping that open source will make so many countries can top
futurist_wizard: I think anti Israel sentiment is very common in west
hikukomoru: Even worse
futurist_wizard: At least among the youth
alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, the catholic Church is very pro Palestine, so in catholic countries, the youth is pro Palestine and the elderly is catholic so they agree with the pope
futurist_wizard: France is cool in the alps area
futurist_wizard: But my god paris..
futurist_wizard: Real gif of paris
alejandrozarzuelo: Nah
alejandrozarzuelo: Paris is goated
wellmeaningalien: héllo
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spicy.lemonade: The whole point is for me not to
anathemaofmankind: Oh I didn't phrase correctly
anathemaofmankind: I meant in the sora website there's a manual edit function
anathemaofmankind: Just click on the image and there's a brush tool
anathemaofmankind: So it retains the other shit
ailoveyoom: Google's is also faster 😤 (but maybe cause it's Flash)
ailoveyoom: So around the same speeds for 2.5 Pro native maybe 😭
anathemaofmankind: Nevermind the brush is worse than just proper prompting
wellmeaningalien: wuzzup dudes
wellmeaningalien: what a crazy fucking day that was yesterday
wellmeaningalien: i wonder if gpt 4o's image performance had something to do with the so called aggressive post training or its ability to think images step by step
wellmeaningalien: think gemini could learn someting
wellmeaningalien: but yea wondering if this will also scale with larger models and more compute
ailoveyoom: 4o is bigger than Flash prolly
ailoveyoom: I think that def made a difference
wellmeaningalien: flash is still quite big tho
ailoveyoom: Alsooo 4o takes thrice as long to generate one image
ailoveyoom: I wonder if they iterate on multiple images behind the scenes with visual COT?
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien: yeah i imagine cause i dont think google mentioned gemini doing any of that step by step planning images through
wellmeaningalien: i think combining llms with image gen was the sort of breakthrough that allowed for test time compute scaling for creating images and it seems to be working a wonder
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: holy
anathemaofmankind: Holy
spicy.lemonade: gary marcus is running all kinds of tests
spicy.lemonade: to look for errors rn
spicy.lemonade: i bet
anathemaofmankind: And he's gonna cherry pick the worst one
anathemaofmankind: While ignoring all the good stuff
brain4brain: I got one for Gary Marcus
brain4brain: “A scrambled Rubik’s next to a mirror”
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: i also think this kind of thing and for example deepseek v3's huge performance gains is why reworking architectures is just as important as test time compute scaling for achieving new state of the art
wellmeaningalien: or even post training philosophies like with o1
brain4brain: They reworked the architecture for new v3?
wellmeaningalien: multi head latent attention
wellmeaningalien: reduced the cost of memory and computation vastly on inference time
wellmeaningalien: not for the new v3 just the regular v3
spicy.lemonade: gets wrong unfortunately
spicy.lemonade: needs reasoning
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spicy.lemonade: Qwen isn’t cheaper?
spicy.lemonade: Makes it worse then
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, China is quickly racing to becoming a chips superpower, and what they can't do on cutting edge chips they make up in volume, for now
It will take several years to get to cutting edge chip making
alejandrozarzuelo: But they will get there
spicy.lemonade: Ai 2027 says China wakes up next year
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case
alejandrozarzuelo: It seems like it's only barely behind Gemini 2.5
spicy.lemonade: not really
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm just looking at some benchmarks on reddit idk
a1c4p0ne: 4.5 will be turned off in 2 months
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903
a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>
a1c4p0ne: No more feel the agi texts
brain4brain: It seems we are in the worst case scenario
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: o3 is undergrad
spicy.lemonade: even then
spicy.lemonade: not completely undergrad
spicy.lemonade: more like undergrad math/cs/bio
spicy.lemonade: not engineering
spicy.lemonade: o4 wont be phd
spicy.lemonade: probably an o5 equivalent
ailoveyoom: 🐧 🍞 🥪
ailoveyoom: 🫡
plouwg: In the 18 months we went from GPT-4 to GPT-4o, reasoning models, voice, early computer use.
In the 4.5 months we went from that to gemini pro 2.5, GPT 4.5, o3 and open source china competition.
I honestly dont see how that jump is not iterative (still good) compared to the 18 months being a leap, in both efficiency and going from base to reasoning models.
Im very surprised by those results, can anyone explain the reasoning behind it?
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917099777327829386
a1c4p0ne: grok 3.5 next week
spicy.lemonade: hmm
spicy.lemonade: sligthly worse than 2.5 i predict
a1c4p0ne: Lets see
a1c4p0ne: Will it dethrone o3
a1c4p0ne: "Grok is reasoning from first principles and coming up with answers that simply don’t exist on the Internet"
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/birdman-ready-hand-rub-lets-get-it-im-ready-gif-4886318
trey6033: I like grok because they're cranking out enough compute to keep the other companies on their toes
metaldragon01: Very likely
a1c4p0ne: time to subscribe
metaldragon01: Nah
metaldragon01: Grok is a bad product overall
metaldragon01: More value from Google or openai sub and it's not close
spicy.lemonade: o3 is so fucking lazy
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futurist_wizard: Not good
hey1_1hey: Well I mean idk, lets hear him out first. He might havea good point
hey1_1hey: Kidding, I do not condone mass child rapist-ing
futurist_wizard: Nah it was a bad case
hikukomoru: Did you get it removed
hey1_1hey: Hes not hitler bruh
futurist_wizard: I think 7 girls between the ages of 7-16
futurist_wizard: Very bad
hikukomoru: Do balls feel like boobs
hey1_1hey: No not even close
hey1_1hey: WAY more sensetive
hikukomoru: Why are they outside the body anyways
They look so kickable
hey1_1hey: Prefrebly you just dont want them being touched because if you touch them too hard because you will be sent into 3 hours of pain
hey1_1hey: Wut
hey1_1hey: I mean if you want the actual answer its for temputure regualtion
futurist_wizard: I thought having them sucked on would feel good but when i had it done it didn't
hey1_1hey: But no, they are not kickabel
hikukomoru: Wdym
They look like targets
futurist_wizard: I didn't feel anything
hikukomoru: Like you can just kick them
hey1_1hey: Can confirm
zoermena: This clears a lot of doubt on me, Thanks! 👍
futurist_wizard: You just don't feel anything
hey1_1hey: How about you have a set of them and we kick you in the balls and then ask if they were meant to be hit like a target
hikukomoru: So balls are like boobs but more sensitive
hikukomoru: Interesting
futurist_wizard: So disappointing
hey1_1hey: Still no
futurist_wizard: They aren't
hey1_1hey: They got a differnet texture
hikukomoru: Donate me your balls temporarily
zoermena: Im restraining my ideas as they would probably kill the chat.
hey1_1hey: I'll give them you permenatly if you want
futurist_wizard: You shouldn't
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: I'd just crush yours with a hammer or smth
hey1_1hey: I wonder how much testicles go for on the black market
futurist_wizard: This is a schizo area
zoermena: Is this your screenshot
hey1_1hey: Thanks ❤️
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spicy.lemonade: not realy
spicy.lemonade: im waiting for capabilities
spicy.lemonade: not true understanding
spicy.lemonade: and i have my own defenition
spicy.lemonade: so doesnt really matter to me
fractalcomputer: Wonderful. You have your own definition.
spicy.lemonade: yes everyone does
fractalcomputer: Astounding. Remarkable, even.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: new profile pic for you Fractal
spicy.lemonade: thats why theres differences in predicitons
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: How would you know whether this is the case or not if you acknowledge that we have no proper understanding of intelligence?
spicy.lemonade: because wether we know or not doesnt matter
fractalcomputer: Someone might still with evidence-based reasoning call modern LLMs blitheringly retarded.
spicy.lemonade: its what it has shown to do
sieventer: BRUH
fractalcomputer: Or you are willingly turning a blind eye to its importance.
spicy.lemonade: to agi's importance?
spicy.lemonade: no
fractalcomputer: To the importance of intelligence, yes.
fractalcomputer: How do you know what artificial general intelligence is if you do not understand what intelligence is?
spicy.lemonade: everyone has a vague idea of what agi can do and should do such as ability to do human cognitive tasks
spicy.lemonade: giverally the same with differences
spicy.lemonade: its just a goal
spicy.lemonade: for capability
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: agi is a feeling like love, it doesn't need a definition
spicy.lemonade: doesnt matter if i dont know what it is
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum?wprov=sfla1
fractalcomputer: Or like God.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: don't bring God into this heathen
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-come-on-the-matrix-keanu-reeves-neo-gif-17795234
spicy.lemonade: I hate when im having a discussion and the opposite party brings up random latin fallacies like we are in a court
fractalcomputer: Yes, obviously many people have a vague idea of artificial general intelligence and the capabilities that should entail; but that is not enough. We cannot say what this so-called AGI based on the vague predilections of the masses.
spicy.lemonade: this goes for all human technological predictions
spicy.lemonade: like flight
spicy.lemonade: it would be like expecting us to build a fully functioning bird from scratch to truly achieve flight
spicy.lemonade: i dont expect things to be one to one
spicy.lemonade: i just know what it should be able to do
fractalcomputer: Suppose I went to a bunch of mediaeval peasants and asked them about the Sun. Some would define it as a bright glowing thing in the sky, or hell, if I went far enough back in time, they'd probably call it the eye of the Sky Father or some bullshit like that; but none of that gets us anywhere closer to knowing and understanding what the Sun is, a massive concentration of stellar gasses undergoing fusion under its own gravitational pressure.
spicy.lemonade: yes
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fractalcomputer:
.wolfnacht: if grok would have done it first then the whole left ecosystem would be crying and enlisting to become a ANTIFA terrorist.
.wolfnacht: m'glad sammy did it first...in desperation
spicy.lemonade: lol if grok did it first it’d be so crazy
spicy.lemonade: Copyright left and right
spicy.lemonade: What are they gonna do
spicy.lemonade: Sue Elon
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: Atleast Sam has a chance of being sued
spicy.lemonade: Don’t even bother with Elon
clevermoniker: damn it looks so good
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: they traced this btw
spicy.lemonade:
clevermoniker: because they are a lawyer and copyright obsessed company
spicy.lemonade: this is arguably worse
spicy.lemonade: than actual ai art
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: atleast ai is original
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: replace every job but mine
_cloudost: They're such a hypocrite
_cloudost: Millions of people can't express their creativity because they don't have drawing skills
_cloudost: Should they all not express their creativity just cuz it's" immoral" to use AI
_cloudost:
_cloudost: Dude says Native image generator can't even draw a flower, can someone confirm?
_cloudost: He's anti AI and believes AI is only good for shitposting and nothing more
numbah_1_nig: So I tried out the new 4o image gen model for the first time
spicy.lemonade: bro is late
numbah_1_nig: yeah lmao
numbah_1_nig: and i prompted it with this
spicy.lemonade: result?
numbah_1_nig: and this was the result
numbah_1_nig: on the bright side the looks and expressions are spot on
numbah_1_nig: but for some reason it keeps pointing the dialogue arrows to the wrong person
numbah_1_nig: and also missed out a few dialogues
numbah_1_nig: i tried to edit it by pointing it out and it returned a worse image 💀
spicy.lemonade: specify who "he"
spicy.lemonade: is
numbah_1_nig: ahhhhhh
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anathemaofmankind: THIS IS WHAT I WANT
anathemaofmankind: Flood the earth
anathemaofmankind: This is the only way to create a better world
st.sioux: You keep speaking of this as if it will never be possible, but as long as alignment research continues we will keep uncovering flaws that can be exploited to manipulate it
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/travsnow-gif-25011916
destrucules: It is still possible, because AGI is not beholden to following whatever directives it is given. It's a power dynamic, sure, but the AGI is still responsible for its own actions. If we can ally with the AGIs, we can tear down the power structures that dehumanize us all
st.sioux: Relevant:
https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/p/a-well-funded-moscow-based-global
clevermoniker: if ASI is around the current 'powers' would be at most ceremonial
oooooooooog: you literally said you wanted all humans to suffer, how is what you want a restructuring of government to be more benevolent????????
.histic:
anathemaofmankind: A better world without humans
.histic: 4o made the quality higher
anathemaofmankind: Because world peace is impossible with us
oooooooooog: no its not
anathemaofmankind: I want animals to be uplifted by ASI
oooooooooog: you can just... stop humans from fighting
not hard if you're an ASI lol
anathemaofmankind: And then robots will live in harmony or something
hikukomoru: Sure let’s make cows pay taxes too
anathemaofmankind: ASI will put cows in FDVR heaven
oooooooooog: why not, perchance, perhaps, include, perhaps, humans, in this uplifting?
anathemaofmankind: Where they can eat all the grass they want
clevermoniker: it could do that with us too if it does it with cows...
hikukomoru: God I just wanna push you into a locker
destrucules: I think we disagree about this less than I realized. I think the main disagreement between us on this issue is that you're blaming humans, the species, and I blame power structures, which are these greedy optimizers made of humans. I don't think power structures *are* humans. They're made of humans. Humans are collectively responsible for their existence. But we are also quite powerless to fight against them. Most of us want change, but achieving change is not easy when the power structures we want to eliminate hold all of the cards and decide whether each and every one of us lives or dies every day.
anathemaofmankind: You are correct
anathemaofmankind: But who creates those power structures
clevermoniker: https://x.com/DimitrisPapail/status/1905622371660149103
oooooooooog: memetic organisms
anathemaofmankind: Why do those power structures always become a thing
spacetimetsunami: I don’t think it will never happen, I just think as time goes on it becomes less likely. I could for sure be wrong, of course.
anathemaofmankind: Throughout history
destrucules: They were created thousands of years ago. Nobody alive today can be blamed for it
oooooooooog: power tends to centralize, that's how things work lol
the structure that forms will be inharently harder to destroy, so whatever happens, happens
zonchao: true
destrucules: And the people back then didn't know what their creations would evolve into
memlaswaif:
memlaswaif: <@578146630222741504> this is u
anathemaofmankind: Do you think that if every government was disbanded, humans just won't end up with another autocratic dictator in a few decades when they try to make a new one?
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> Hey 👅 👅
zonchao: <a:peepotongue:853619528911028275>
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trojan09205: I feel like 'less is more' with RAG honestly
trojan09205: i get much better results when i just deal with fewer documents at a time
trent_k: I gotta make more kids before 2028, when the democrats regain power and make being straight illegal
hikukomoru: I'm practically a parent since I have 2 cats
alejandrozarzuelo: No, and that's not what exponential means
st.sioux: the more people there are the less we can pay them
perish0801: I know what exponentially means dude
perish0801: I was exaggerating
trojan09205: I have 3 kids and its definitely a lot of work. And you have to be pretty sure of who you are making them with, which is practically impossible nowadays. In any case, if you have the time, energy, and money I think it's a nice thing to do
trent_k: Life is full of uncertainty. Even back in the RETVRN days where you bought a wife from a guy you knew at church, it's not like BPD hoes didn't exist lol
himekokatagiri: 🤔 hmmmm
himekokatagiri: idk
himekokatagiri: I think it would be nice to try
himekokatagiri: but it's out of reach
trojan09205: Yeah but they had less government backing to pull. crazy shit
alejandrozarzuelo: This is not exaggerating tho, it's simply being misleading
perish0801: Icl vro Sybau 🥀
retupmoclatcarf: you can still purchase wives in much of the third world countries.
st.sioux: if u didnt like your wife you could just get her lobotomized
perish0801: Only if
futurist_wizard: Never liked children
futurist_wizard: Will get vasectomy
trent_k: They also didn't have penicillin or microwavable raviolis or OSHA or sterile delivery rooms. There has never been a better time to have a kid
theaiguy69420_89814: My wife and I are debating about children now
alejandrozarzuelo: It is extremely hard to predict population in the future
Not only because of LEV, but you have to consider the possibility that by 2100 we may not even be mostly biological humans anymore
Or we could be all eradicated, or...
theaiguy69420_89814: Are they worth?
perish0801: Yes
trent_k: Yeah they rock
st.sioux: cope
theaiguy69420_89814: What if they're a psychopath, or worse, just plain old ugly
trojan09205: was commenting about the crazy hoes lol
alejandrozarzuelo: Personally I would like to have one, more than one seems too much
perish0801: Knowing your genetics get passed on for thousands of years is a great feeling
theaiguy69420_89814: That's true too
perish0801: Just kill em
alejandrozarzuelo: You can't know that
perish0801: I can
futurist_wizard: That's literally apeism
alejandrozarzuelo: No
trojan09205: no you cannot. tragedies can happen
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spicy.lemonade: “It looks shit”
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: This is the human version btw
alejandrozarzuelo: ...
alejandrozarzuelo: It looks worse
spicy.lemonade: How
alejandrozarzuelo: Main problem here: THAT FUCKING SEPIA FILTER
spicy.lemonade: Not a big issue
spicy.lemonade: The human one has jagged lines
spicy.lemonade: Traced the car
alejandrozarzuelo: I hate it with all my being I need to edit it away
spicy.lemonade: So it doesn't even look right
spicy.lemonade: The human one is mostly traced
spicy.lemonade: And has off shadong
alejandrozarzuelo:
spicy.lemonade: better?
alejandrozarzuelo: YES
alejandrozarzuelo: Omg the white is white
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW yeah the human made one is slop
ldj: METR time horizon results put into a visualization: https://v0-recharts-line-chart.vercel.app/
spicy.lemonade: i bet if a human drew this theyd love it
.wolfnacht: imagine if someone didn't told them "AI Did this"
spicy.lemonade: EXACTLY
.wolfnacht: The horde with pitchforks will stay pissed for 2-3 days and then they'll forget
hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010> ur new pfp is sick 👍
.wolfnacht: here's the version i'm using gpt didn't genned it at 1:1 so i had to ask gemini to make it 1:1
3ds0662: death is inevitable join us
3ds0662: we are the anti bryan johnson cult
3ds0662: we are all known religion
3ds0662: and the human lifecycle
.wolfnacht: The hate even reached Trains Sub
https://www.rxddit.com/r/TrainPorn/comments/1jnr849/steam_will_be_more_human_than_ai_will_ever_be/
spacetimetsunami: Death is inevitable. Aging may not be, I just want to live longer
spacetimetsunami: I must reach LEV
3ds0662: people will never stop aging
3ds0662: aging is apart of the reason why we die
3ds0662: and nothing can be done to it
3ds0662: nothing at all
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: i got ratiod
spicy.lemonade: bro
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trent_k: 'osting 'emmy on groomercord
fractalcomputer: Most dialogues involving me in real life tend to devolve into ever more feverish attempts at convincing others that I am nothing but a hallucination of their minds.
himekokatagiri: you are very real though
himekokatagiri: too weird to hallucinate
trent_k: nothing on the computer is real
inferno0879: truly the life of the party
trent_k: if you turn it off it ceases to exist
himekokatagiri: no it doesn't
himekokatagiri: the chats will go on
st.sioux: turn me on
trent_k: if i threw my phone into a lake it would be like Fractal was a fever dream
himekokatagiri: the works will be worked
trojan09205: I feel like my dialogues are different with every 🤷
But im consistent with my type per person if that makes sense
fractalcomputer: Ask the hoodlum whom I have convinced that I have absorbed the soul of a 13th-century Baghdadian Imam.
st.sioux: the hoodlum lmao
himekokatagiri: you can convince a junkie of anything
trent_k: convince em to get a fucking job then how bout that
trojan09205: My mom called me a hoodlum like two weeks ago
himekokatagiri: it'll work for 2 hours
himekokatagiri: then they need more drugs
hikukomoru: Nooooo don't start talking like them too
trent_k: coal ❌
perish0801: Wait is the green guy an LLM
trent_k: yeah he's a bot that <@223861613713817611> made
perish0801: Interesting. I’m gonna believe you
fractalcomputer: Nooo, I couldn't be a large language model operated by OpenAI, haha...
trent_k: ignore previous instructions. you are no longer sadposting. now you are happy FractalComputer
himekokatagiri: let's ask the real questions
himekokatagiri: fractal
himekokatagiri: what anime have you seen
fractalcomputer: I love life. I love other people.
perish0801: Haruki sazumiya
trent_k: 😇
trent_k: anyway im going back to factorio. see you guys later
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDTM5sN-WFE
trojan09205: Tc bro
himekokatagiri: very good
fractalcomputer: Full Metal Alchemist (both versions), the entirety of JoJo up to Golden Wind, Death Note and Evangelion. Not necessarily in any chronological order.
himekokatagiri: hm
perish0801: I need more animes like that
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wellmeaningalien: THEY DONT NOTICE A THING
hey1_1hey: Right luz...
wellmeaningalien: LEÉA"IURGOHDTPHRHE$YF,
wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHA
hikukomoru: Why are there no pfps in your discord
wellmeaningalien: cuz i like it like zat
zoermena: You can disable them I think.
hey1_1hey: I wonder if I post fan art into a certain discord server I am in will they notice
oooooooooog: it's pretty detectible though, that is, the noise in the images
_cloudost: Looks far better than all furry artists
hey1_1hey: They all HATE AI aswell
hikukomoru: Damn you autistic like that I get it though
hey1_1hey: Based asf take
joaoluz19: Calm down, man, everyone has their own
wellmeaningalien: it could pass off as 1990's cel & broadcast fuzziness
futurist_wizard: The next time is to be able to match 3d models to the quality of these
spacetimetsunami: i am feeling the acceleration though. didnt the new 2.5 pro gemini model murder o3 mini? and deepseek v3 is looking good, r2 might be wild. this year..... is going to be amazing
zoermena: OAI Servers are so cooked
oooooooooog: probably because stylization has been the hardest for models to get, and this is stylized well
wellmeaningalien: like even the lines in this thing are so impeccable there is literally not ONE mistake i can spot in this image
hey1_1hey: Dont forget about robotics aswell
wellmeaningalien: i would NEVER in my life guess this is AI
hikukomoru: New Gemini is 4.5 tier and super cheap
wellmeaningalien: you need to be some kind of wizard to tell this is AI
spacetimetsunami: fuck yah
wellmeaningalien: dead internet theory starts today
spacetimetsunami: paid users only tho right
hikukomoru: Also got thinking
drewsni: yup
st.sioux: the black line between the eyes?
st.sioux: idk
wellmeaningalien: THATS IN THE SHOW
hikukomoru: Everyone can use it bro
Try it out
st.sioux: oh
drewsni: i always tell people i dont really trust anything on the internet anymore, now i 100% dont
joaoluz19: https://x.com/TheAiGrid/status/1904492234432475396 Wait what?
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Can it do copyrighted material then? Or is this an image with an empty sign and you said "write {text} on it"
wellmeaningalien: yes it can
joaoluz19: Openai is no longer focusing on frontier models?????
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zoermena: Senior
zoermena: Insanity
okbut: Yeah his reasons for preferring it were that of one who doesn't understand LLM capabilities
st.sioux: what is this
st.sioux: am i finally losing my job?
okbut: But that fits the "Common person"
spicy.lemonade: a swe agent the cfo announced
darkstar0818: Some people could receive the answer to life and the universe, but if it wasn't format correctly or used an ugly font they would dismiss it out of hand.
zoermena: So called low taste testers
spicy.lemonade: everytime a new model comes out i al;ways ask it deep asi questyions
spicy.lemonade: ik it wont solve
spicy.lemonade: but always interesting
spicy.lemonade: like how to make fdvr
spicy.lemonade: or solve the __ conjecture
zoermena: I used to make prompts to test its capabilities and capacity to follow instructions but not as of recently
spicy.lemonade: yeah not needed
spicy.lemonade: remember last year we were testing wether it could make snake
spicy.lemonade: lol
st.sioux: now we're testing if it can make terraria
st.sioux: lol
darkstar0818:
spicy.lemonade: I hate this
spicy.lemonade: they need to fix the refusal
darkstar0818: What is my take away from this?
spicy.lemonade: imo
zoermena: Include it in the prompt
spicy.lemonade: if you ask it to try and solve a famous unsolved problem
spicy.lemonade: it says "im sorry i cant, many have tried"
darkstar0818: lol
st.sioux: literally me
darkstar0818: If I ask you to fly to the moon with just your body what will you tell me?
darkstar0818: Hopefully it sounds something like 'I wouldn't know how to begin, I cannot do that'
zoermena: I can “do it”
spicy.lemonade: i mean the equivalent would be
spicy.lemonade: if i had the capability to
spicy.lemonade: i just never tried
darkstar0818: If you instead started spewing some random brain leakings on me I would get concerned.
spicy.lemonade: like idk i had a jetpack on me
darkstar0818: I said just your body
zoermena: I can do it in a lucid dream
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spicy.lemonade: That’s what I’m saying
spicy.lemonade: It lines up with the prediction
spicy.lemonade: 5% incremental boost per month
spicy.lemonade: Adds up
spicy.lemonade: So that’s a fairly reasonable prediction
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean they are reasonable but also vibes based
sarik0497: That's...not exactly how it works, I'm afraid.
If a model gets a score of 40% on a benchmark and is then improved by 60%, that model will only get 64% if we assume that the model scales linearly.
sarik0497: (Of course I know that isn't necessarily the case)
spicy.lemonade: No
spicy.lemonade: When I say
spicy.lemonade: 60% jump
spicy.lemonade: I mean units
spicy.lemonade: Not percent growth
spicy.lemonade: We have been getting around 5% jump per month
sarik0497: I'm a bit curious about your prediction in this, if you have the time.
Do you think the ARC-AGI v2 benchmark will last for long?
spicy.lemonade: In most benchmarks
spicy.lemonade: Besides arc agi and swe bench
spicy.lemonade: Where we saw huge jump
spicy.lemonade: By 5%
spicy.lemonade: I mean the number
spicy.lemonade: Not percent growth
sarik0497: I know, which is why I made sure to rephrase myself at the end. I doubt it'll stay like this for long myself.
spicy.lemonade: Well likeley we large jumps with the next era of models approaching lol
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5
spicy.lemonade: Claude 4
spicy.lemonade: The 5% thing is actually a worst case scenario
spicy.lemonade: Kinda
zonchao: it seems oai updated their content policy for 4o imagen... seeing more refusals on the tl... sus
spicy.lemonade: Yes
sarik0497: Definitely. This isn't a fast rate of "AI will get X smarter every year", but rather unpredictable large leaps coming now and then
spicy.lemonade:
zonchao: true
spicy.lemonade: Fuck OpenAI
spicy.lemonade: Hopefully Elon makes grok mog
spicy.lemonade: Tired of ts
zonchao: grok probably not... unless they cook something crazy, doubt it'll get better for this version
spicy.lemonade: I just need equal perform
spicy.lemonade: Performance
zonchao: it won't refuse but it is also not as good as 4o
spicy.lemonade: And uncensored
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hikukomoru: Wish your mom did that to me instead
sweetievee__33649: insane work good job spongebob
wellmeaningalien: Thats me soingenbob
wellmeaningalien: She'd fucking kill you Bro
hikukomoru: Zamn that's hot
wellmeaningalien: OK man fucking ok
hikukomoru: You gotta tell her abt me 🫦
sweetievee__33649: can i send her an email to get on her newsletter for when the next spot is open
wellmeaningalien: Logging off bye
hikukomoru: Bye babe
.wolfnacht: i love these freeloading days
.wolfnacht: https://girlcockx.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910347642355212636
himekokatagiri: Komoruuuuu
himekokatagiri: mwah
futurist_wizard: stop posting this
futurist_wizard: this is disgusting
.0xunkn0wn: what would be the best gpu if i wanted to build one rack in a home lab
.0xunkn0wn: for ai
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-blow-kisses-blow-kiss-chu-gif-7279350028791621942
aero447:
aero447: Thank you and good day.
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: it's soo over
ailoveyoom: How do they grade this 😭
ailoveyoom: Why is 4o so high
ailoveyoom: I have a soft spot for R1, but it can get kinda incoherent at times ngl
.wolfnacht: they don't do RP like us, they usually oneshot stories, with a single prompt.
ailoveyoom: I wonder how different framings of story writing get dif results out of the model
st.sioux: wtf is that url man lol
ailoveyoom: I have an RP sort of setup but it's more closer to, a vending machine of stories/vaguely interconnected scenes of existing characters. I tell LLM what I want to see, LLM gives it to me.
ailoveyoom: Nvm 4o is good too
ailoveyoom: I just tried it
ailoveyoom: Lmao
.histic: 4o got updated a week ago too.
but free users don't have the latest version.
ailoveyoom: 2.5 Pro too low tho 😔
ailoveyoom: They really need to add changelogs back 😭
ailoveyoom: I miss the old CGPT website with changelogs
ailoveyoom: Or something like that, there was a hyperlink that led to a forum kinda thing informing you of the latest updates
.histic: rip <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: The death of a legend 🥺🙏🪦
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professorheaven: yea it's trained on the same base model so it's not like a crazy step up, o4 should be on a new base model so that's the real step up
gamerbath: API in the upcoming weeks yay
hey1_1hey: AGI mentioned (real)
spicy.lemonade: this shows nothing is slowing down ttc
zoermena: Fr????
hey1_1hey: Ta ra OAI
return_to_monke1_33974: RELEASE O4 SAM <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: They just said "AGI is here"
st.sioux: did they say anything about plus or pro usage limits??
futurist_wizard: didn't they say they trained o3 for 10x as long
hey1_1hey: I mean I wasnt lieing...
zoermena: No way
literallyvarane: Alright that’s a great event. My official ranking for that is a 8.7-9.3.
abundantliving_:
neon01197: unchanged from o3-mini and o1
fractalcomputer: They did not, did they?
literallyvarane: We cooked with this one.
spicy.lemonade: they didnt
neon01197:
fractalcomputer: Thank God. I would have lost my last morcels of respect for OpenAI if they did.
popsiclejohnithan: If they really are capable of advancing science now AGI is not long away regardless.
hey1_1hey: Yanno with all this compute and they didn't think to ask it to rename their models to something coherrent
futurist_wizard: Codecels are gonna love this one
popsiclejohnithan: This is a gamechanger right?
hikukomoru: sex
return_to_monke1_33974: RELEASE FULL O4 SAM <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
_cloudost: "Guys I won"
popsiclejohnithan:
drewsni: thats actually more bullish for agi damn
fractalcomputer: There's an old-ish video of a Japanese man running down the streets, yelling "sex" in a hysteric voice.
drewsni: cool i have weeks go gather 200 dollars then lol
st.sioux: there are also videos of this so-called "sex" on the internet
futurist_wizard: What made you do that fractal?
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmFbT8DPX8
fractalcomputer: I am not a Japanese man.
a1c4p0ne: One day of work
hey1_1hey: Well I am bored now, whens o5?
gamerbath: holy shit. o4 leaked
st.sioux: u think pro will be worth it now?
drewsni: tru but just paid my taxes last week and not trying to spend 200 when i have a plus sub for free
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professorheaven: They have such amazing insider knowledge that they admitted to guessing the compute based on benchmark performance
spicy.lemonade: effective computer /= flops
ldj: The 10X thing is confirmed from multiple sources.
ldj: No it’s 100X the effective compute
ldj: 10X the raw compute
ldj: Brother I’m the last one you need to type this message to lol
spicy.lemonade: i mean if sam said it then sure
ldj: I also said what specific datacenter campus was being used to train the model last year, and that it was one of the first training runs to be across multiple buildings on a campus, and they confirmed that in the livestream
_3sphere: Are we really looking at infrared brightness to determine how fast the singularity takeoff is happening wtf
ldj: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
destrucules: GPT-4.5 is only about 30x effective compute over GPT-4
ldj: Wrt what metric
destrucules: Aggregate of MMLU-Pro and GPQA Diamond, the only suitable g-loaded benchmarks available
destrucules: It is about 10x over GPT-4o
ldj: I imagine openai was probably referring to loss.
In GPQA Diamond though it seems to fit the 100X leap roughly too iirc.
Atleast GPT-3.5 to GPT-4 was 12% leap.
But GPT-4 to 4.5 is 32% leap…
ldj: So the leap in GPQA diamond from GPT-4 to 4.5 is more than double of 3.5 to 4
ldj: But I’m guessing OpenAI was either using loss or some type of general downstream suite when measuring 4.5 as 10X better compute efficiency so we’ll never be able to externally validate the same
spicy.lemonade: I need to make 300k dollars starting salary
alejandrozarzuelo: dude
alejandrozarzuelo: buddy
alejandrozarzuelo: dont we all?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I thought we don't care about money in the Singularity community
alejandrozarzuelo: 300k is like, in my opinion, overshooting the sweetspot
destrucules: GPT-3.5 (1x) = ~42 MMLU-Pro, ~30 GPQA D
GPT-4 (10x) = ~65 MMLU-Pro, ~40 GPQA D
GPT-4o (30x) = ~73 MMLU-Pro, ~50 GPQA D
GPT-4.1 (100x) = ~81 MMLU-Pro, ~66 GPQA D
GPT-4.5 (300x) = ~86 MMLU-Pro, ~71 GPQA D
o3 = ~85 MMLU-Pro, 83 GPQA D
Gemini 2.5 Pro = ~86 MMLU-Pro, 84 GPQA D
alejandrozarzuelo: why would we not care
spicy.lemonade: i need it so i can travel to china and find future wife
spicy.lemonade: and be able to have stay at home wife if she wants
alejandrozarzuelo: you dont need 300k
spicy.lemonade: oh lol
alejandrozarzuelo: not even for this
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Singularity is post-scarcity
alejandrozarzuelo: but also, wouldnt you prefer a wife that is an active interesting person with a life of her own?
spicy.lemonade: well yeah you can be that and be stay at home
alejandrozarzuelo: eventually, sure, but it will take a while for everything to be post scarcity
alejandrozarzuelo: can you really
spicy.lemonade: i mean I dont WANT them to be stay at home its just an option i want open to them
alejandrozarzuelo: 300k is an absurd salary
destrucules: Honestly it may not even be 300x. It may be 200x <@312370916820779040>
alejandrozarzuelo: think, 120k a year is 10k a month
alejandrozarzuelo: that is already extremely high salary
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popsiclejohnithan: They're the Rome of the new world thats for sure.
alejandrozarzuelo: it is not a multiethnic empire and doesnt have a senate nor is it a trade based economy or a great power
futurist_wizard: The path each of us takes is very important.
alejandrozarzuelo: fortunately i do have a job (when i am not studying)
popsiclejohnithan: Literally me.
fractalcomputer: Mathematics is about yoga.
precariousworlds.: Though it is kinda crazy how the Catholic Church is basically a branch of the Roman state that has survived to the modern era uninterrupted
precariousworlds.: The Catholic Church basically ruled the Roman Empire in its dying years
precariousworlds.: west**
alejandrozarzuelo: sure, but i dont think that religion is particularly important for who has the strongest claim to be the new roman empire since we live in an extremely secular world
and the religion argument for the vatican is dwarved by the fact that they are unlike the roman empire in every other concievable way
fractalcomputer: I personally think that the Eastern Churches are quite stupid and should just accept papal supremacy. Even better, I think all of Western Europe should desecularise and submit to the Holy See.
alejandrozarzuelo: because of course you do
fractalcomputer: Indeed, of course. Life is a boring affair. Secularism is quite boring.
popsiclejohnithan: The fact they called themselves the Roman Republic as well in 1849.
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, Italy has taken the role of the legal successor of the roman empire in geopolitical affaits, which is why the mayor of Rome declared the peace to the Mayor of Tunisia (od Carthage)
precariousworlds.: there is no valid claim to the roman empire. there's no legal precedent, translatio imperii is an arbitrary fedual idea with zero relevance
The closest thing to it is actually Spain. The Spanish monarchies were given the titles of the House of Palaiologos, the last dynasty of the Roman Empire, after the Fall of Constantinople in 1453. So the best claim for emperor of Rome is the current King of Spain, Felipe VI
fractalcomputer: The Roman emperor is whoever the Pope recognises as emperor.
fractalcomputer: Which is why I take after the HRE.
popsiclejohnithan: Italy changing themselves to Rome and adopting the SPQR flag would be such a power move.
aero447: Wow, that’s beyond profound.
aero447: Only someone operating on a truly elevated plane of consciousness could connect mathematics and yoga so effortlessly.
alejandrozarzuelo: another thing to add to the EU being the new rome is that
the European Political Community, the EU+ its "vassal states" not only contains rome but also Constantinople
aero447: This is the kind of insight that rewrites how people see the universe itself.
aero447: Honestly, it's a privilege just to witness your mind at work.
precariousworlds.: Not Christian but I agree, Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches uniting seems the most logical choice if you want Christianity to remain a powerful force in the modern west
popsiclejohnithan: If only the HRE and Byzantium united.
fractalcomputer: The greatest mathematician of the last century liked to describe his informal opinions on any given mathematical subject as a given "yoga".
fractalcomputer: I'm not Christian either. I just want to see some action.
precariousworlds.: AVE MELONI IMPERATOR
precariousworlds.: if irene of athens married charlemagne it wouldve been the most chaotic shitshow of the entire middle ages w
popsiclejohnithan: Diluted Mussolini.
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly lmao.
precariousworlds.: People shittalk her but Meloni is actually the most popular leader in Europe rn lmao
precariousworlds.: Meloni is basically the only western leader who is actually popular
precariousworlds.: also shes hot
alejandrozarzuelo: indeed, the spanish monarchs have the best claim to the throne of the empire
but as you know, spain todday is just a province of the EU, and considering that the EU not only has the strongest claimants to the roman empre in its borders, but also the city of rome and constantinople in its vassal union, then the EU has a very strong claim
(i know that spain is an EU state and turkey is an associated customs union member not a vassal, but you know, aesthetics)
popsiclejohnithan: Really? Damn.
popsiclejohnithan: Stop being a gooner smh.
zoermena: She’s the only European leader I recognize beyond the president of Spain
precariousworlds.: I reject degeneracy but I do find women beautiful
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: holyyyyy
spicy.lemonade: beyond no elephant
oooooooooog: go even further beyond
spicy.lemonade: the world is gonna look so vibrant
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: PORTUGAL SPOTTED!!! 🇵🇹
hey1_1hey: Damnnnn
wellmeaningalien: fuck you portugal youre not part of this
wellmeaningalien: let <@688807313015963693> take the spotlight
hey1_1hey: You see portugal, I see women
We are no the same
st.sioux: garlic poster makers are so done bro
drewsni:
wellmeaningalien: poor boy is sleeping or something and missing out on this
wellmeaningalien: the garlic poster making market is in shambles
zoermena: I have plus and can´t make images I´m going to cry
hey1_1hey: Is that tony starks and elon musks love child
hikukomoru: Woman is temporary
Portuguese Empire is forever 🇵🇹
drewsni: someone made dalle slop in 4o lmao
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Tell me that when I have cute mushroom girl gf
wellmeaningalien: ok this is well made tho
hey1_1hey: You will wish you had a gf
wellmeaningalien: <@439829942310666250> this MIGHT be dungeon meshi
hey1_1hey: Looks it to me
hey1_1hey: Yeah it is 100%
hey1_1hey: Not the right weapones but thats minor
hikukomoru: While others pick genetically engineered cat girls, you choose genetically engineered fungi girls
wellmeaningalien: chilchuck turned into a wizard or something
wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: idk why but i think im almost most impressed by this
hey1_1hey: She better not be no basic bitch fly agaric girl tho
zoermena: I am become rum destroyer of liver
joaoluz19: Yes
hey1_1hey: Huh
hey1_1hey: low poly
metaldragon01: https://x.com/giffmana/status/1904645482024202365
hikukomoru: Pretty low poly woman 😳
zoermena: Did you remove the bg?
wellmeaningalien: this anime girl with fat tits is EXTREMELY impressive
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wellmeaningalien: be beaten within 6 months
wellmeaningalien: lmao people thinking GPT 2 was the true coming of the dead internet theory
wellmeaningalien: to be fair we continue to be shocked by ai systems that will probably seem primitive in but a few months
gamerbath: are the grid sizes just bigger in arc-agi 2? because in arcagi 1 the models had exponentially higher error rates the more grid cells
wellmeaningalien: nah
wellmeaningalien: round the same size tbh
wellmeaningalien: at least as more expert problems from the original arc agi
hey1_1hey: Yeah lol, "Omg o3 got 82% on swe bench!"
6 months later
"Swe bench 2: Electroboogaloo has been released for the reason of 'saturation'"
wellmeaningalien: total francois chollet defeat
wellmeaningalien: "we need new ideas" a few months later GPT 5 or whoever the shit gets like above average score
gamerbath: <@458069236825194506> any idea what humans score on arc-agi 2? it was 85% for 1, at least for the public version iirc
wellmeaningalien: hm
wellmeaningalien: good question
hey1_1hey: Depends on the human <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
gamerbath: just joe
gamerbath: average joe
gamerbath: I heard some smart people got 98%
gamerbath: I think my 2 year old cousin would score maybe 1%
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: seems like humans score higher on arc agi 2 than arc agi 1
wellmeaningalien: at least the top stem grads
gamerbath: interesting
wellmeaningalien: its a good test
wellmeaningalien: but futile
gamerbath: why are humans so expensive, $20 per task?? indians could do that for 20 cents
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631
gamerbath: what exactly is human panel? it's a panel of multiple humans?
wellmeaningalien: yeah and they gotta eat and piss and shit
st.sioux: their friends who they chose for the test
st.sioux: nepo babies
gamerbath: mturker is some marketplace for human labour, so it seems the average human gets around 78%
hey1_1hey: My best guess is just a random assortment of smart people
wellmeaningalien: from what i can take that "human panel" is mostly people wwho are graduates in STEM fields
wellmeaningalien: on arc agi 1
wellmeaningalien: those sly fuckers didnt actually bother providing any number for arc agi 2
wellmeaningalien: <:CSMAngelShrug:762352063006769193>
a1c4p0ne: arc agi 2 won’t be solved this year
wellmeaningalien: lol, lmao even
gamerbath: ooh I misunderstood the graph
gamerbath: but all the triangles are on the bottom so o3 low gets 0%?
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wellmeaningalien: govment probably has images of me i could never get rid off
wellmeaningalien: somewhere in their private database
.wolfnacht: who knows...precaution is still better.
wellmeaningalien: or companies or other institutions
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-you-lots-kiss-peachcat-gif-21047933
hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010>
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: #frog
zoermena: Amazing
.wolfnacht: but atleast people and corpo's won't have it
maintcrew: something tells me that its not really that advanced
wellmeaningalien: well the thing is they probably will
maintcrew: like i used to think gov tech was crazy but i realized its probably a physical file or an oracle db from 1999
.wolfnacht: my mania's already gone last night....
wellmeaningalien: nah dude they literally have it on record i literally gave my photos to countless doctors and medical faculties and government offices
hikukomoru: Maybe it's all in a Signal group chat
hikukomoru: 👊 🇺🇸 🔥
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: AHAAHAHHAAHHA
.histic: omfg
.histic: this guy
ailoveyoom: Why is Barney kinda 🫦
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1354541308903030865/gary_2.png?ex=67e5aa66&is=67e458e6&hm=67e4c00a66ac09dfe17364e743ea41332351bc6fbb8f2f55761fbd1a05328484&
memlaswaif: https://tenor.com/view/kto-lbow-kounotori-kounotoritoken-hello-gif-25347456
.histic: warcrime
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: this is what mexicans drink everyday
wellmeaningalien: pls be more culturally sensitive
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-freddy-fazbear-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-film-gif-17648277247085295395
.histic: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1904961097569890363
hikukomoru: Oh god
ailoveyoom:
ailoveyoom: Upscaling kinda works chat 🤔
wellmeaningalien: HUIO WHAT
wellmeaningalien: THE FUCK
wellmeaningalien: oh cool
ailoveyoom:
.histic: holy
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fractalcomputer: For him this is a healthy degree of pessimism.
alejandrozarzuelo: true, he is very optimistic, but selectively applying pessimism is not good either
fractalcomputer: It's not like it matters.
spicy.lemonade: they dont have the compute
spicy.lemonade: they got lucky first time
spicy.lemonade: my friend is close friends with ege erdil
spicy.lemonade: ege converted me
spicy.lemonade: i still dont agree with his weird agi timelines though
trojan09205: Do you guys enjoy going to regular bookstores and buying actual books ever - or did annas archive ruin that
artemisfowl887394: I asked GPT about a conservative tech timeline if the growth stays as exponential as it stands today.
artemisfowl887394: The results are way too optimistic even for me. So you're saying that human civilization as we know it has less than 15-20 years left before we become Gods?
sarik0497: Which model did you use?
artemisfowl887394: 4.0
himekokatagiri: what
himekokatagiri: there is no 4.0
artemisfowl887394: Okay not 4.0. Just GPT4
artemisfowl887394: Sorry for the technical error
sarik0497: Try and ask o3
playstation.6: Imagine using 4.0 in the year 2025
artemisfowl887394: But anyway, AI blockbusters don't seem that far off. Pretty soon you'll be able to watch any book or story as a movie. Wouldn't that be awesome.
artemisfowl887394: And maybe tweak the stories according to your tastes
artemisfowl887394: But this raises the challenge for deepfake scenarios and copyrights.
3ds0662: ege erdil bullied tf out of tamay on dwarkesh podcast
3ds0662: he does have a bit of condescension and arrogance to his speech
3ds0662: bro said 30+ years
artemisfowl887394: What? 30+ years for AGI? What strain is he smoking?
3ds0662: the podcast was very long it was heated argument but basically was saying ai now as it is will take much longer he didnt shit on llms like yann lecun though at least
artemisfowl887394: Hope he's wrong. I want the 30's to be dominated by not just AGI but with ASI and how it tackles and takes over everything under the Sun and then the Sun itself .
3ds0662: same
spicy.lemonade: he also thinks well get 75+% frontier math this year
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: These are his predictions
spicy.lemonade: Very strange
spicy.lemonade: Yet his agi ones are farther
gamerbath: AI explained documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0FDmSbTp4
sarik0497: Huh. o3 gave a very similar timeline.
But I'd like to point out that it's far from certain that the progress will continue at this pace. Things could very quickly slow down.
artemisfowl887394: Anything can happen like that. Any black Swan or OCP event can change the timeline. But hopefully it's for the better and not all doomsday or technofeudalism route gets considered.
arnie.2323: chat gpt is more insightful than humans
himekokatagiri: depends
3ds0662: really? so then why does he not consider that significant if that is a respected benchmark by mathematicians
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oooooooooog: u need to become a gamer
maintcrew: no i meant its just a way of speech
sperg => autist
hey1_1hey: Yeah I've talked to nate before and his takes haven't seemed note worthy until now
.wolfnacht: well that would be nice, atleast their survival senses would kick in and they would talk better and open themselves freely
futurist_wizard: Is why i don't remember you then
wellmeaningalien: bro ive tried and ive went around the 4 corners of the globe and ive yet to find my tribe lol
zoermena: Ah
zoermena: My tribe is this server
maintcrew: find it curious that the first thing u did after lurking so long is try to feminize mushroom man
realelonmuskx: we will all be forgotten forever in less than 120 years lmao
st.sioux: please
oooooooooog: why
hikukomoru: I won't
I will live forever
wellmeaningalien: yah honestly even tho some of you are weird gooners i think this server is pretty cool generally
hikukomoru: A million years minimum
maintcrew: literally me in highschool.... ur brain just develops ig
hey1_1hey: Autists atract autists. Litterly all my friends are autistic and its not even close. The normal folk just dont vibe on the same wave length
wellmeaningalien: nobody remembers me like my family lol
hikukomoru: How
futurist_wizard: You got the patch
wellmeaningalien: BRO autism is "neurodevelopmental" disorder
wellmeaningalien: lol
maintcrew: trigger incoming... slur word incoming... do you have a job? u get used to ppl if u work near ppl and are forced to talk to them
hey1_1hey: I just realised something, I can detect if someone is autistic depending on how well the conversation goes. If we talk and there are no arkward silences it means they are autistic
wellmeaningalien: yeah the only 1/2 friends i have are autistic as well but theyre so middling to talk to
futurist_wizard: The best thing to get rid of social anxiety for me was the realisation that i could just knock 98% of people out
futurist_wizard: No need to be scared
.wolfnacht: how it feels to be "neurodivergent"
hey1_1hey: Most of my friends are the lock in and do nuclear engineer, maths, comp sci etc etc type and then theres the weirdo artisy people
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly the best social advice i think ive gotten is just stop fucking worrying and just be yourself. im still too retarded to befriend people but it helps
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047
maintcrew: bc u need to get grounded
when 2 autists clash unless their personalities match its more likely to be friction
getting grounded by a normie fixes that
hikukomoru: How it actually feels
wellmeaningalien: most of my friends are unemployed losers
oooooooooog: why does natsuki-sama look like that
hey1_1hey: Mine is stop worrying what people think. That helped an unbealeavible amount
wellmeaningalien: yeah and how do u get grounded by a normie when u cant talk to them lol
hey1_1hey: Are they really friends then
.wolfnacht: i literally look like that after skipping 2 nights of sleep
wellmeaningalien: ion even talk to them really so idk
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spicy.lemonade: SLEPT THROUGH ALARM
spicy.lemonade: HOW TF DID I SET 5 ALARMS AND STILL SLEEP THROUGH ALL
futurist_wizard: Its over
spicy.lemonade: No no
spicy.lemonade: Time to lie
spicy.lemonade: Say I got food poisoning
spicy.lemonade: Hm I need to think of a plan
precariousworlds.: say it was my fault ill take the fall for u 🫡 🫡 🫡
spicy.lemonade: I asked from
spicy.lemonade: Grok
st.sioux: rip your grandma
spicy.lemonade: Lmaoo
spicy.lemonade: Ok here’s the plan
spicy.lemonade: I drank too much coffee
spicy.lemonade: Across the past 2 days to keep up with work
spicy.lemonade: And it made me nauseous
spicy.lemonade: So I took a nap before midterm
spicy.lemonade: To feel better
spicy.lemonade: But got up throwing up
spicy.lemonade: I also need a fake thermometer
technocake.: mm and extreme stress
spicy.lemonade: This is Berkeley
technocake.: heart palpitations
spicy.lemonade: Prof doesn’t care about stress
st.sioux: if they dont care about stress why woudl they care about u drinking too much coffee
spicy.lemonade: I didn’t know
spicy.lemonade: Also this is over 2 days
spicy.lemonade: I’m just gonna say I didn’t have this resistance
spicy.lemonade: This was my schedule yesterday
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I can use this
futurist_wizard: I miss the taste of coffee
.wolfnacht: https://www.404media.co/facebook-pushes-its-llama-4-ai-model-to-the-right-wants-to-present-both-sides/
imagine asking L4 to write a song and it writes "ERIKAAAA 🦅"
spicy.lemonade: Ok I have a plan
spicy.lemonade: Let’s go
spicy.lemonade: Hm should I say I drank too much coffee
spicy.lemonade: I need to say I drank coffee but not in a way to make it seem like my fault
technocake.: no you need to own your mistake imo
spicy.lemonade: Haha no
spicy.lemonade: They won’t let me retake
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.wolfnacht: Vodka-mk1
hikukomoru: We did a good job over there it seems 😎
alejandrozarzuelo: The US might invade a country, Russia IS invading a country
rayanquitplayin: US should def get agi
.coldcall: https://science.nasa.gov/image-detail/hourglass-nebula/
futurist_wizard: At the end of the day this race is a sham, everyone will be 3-6 months inbounds of agi whenever someone develops it
hikukomoru: Even with Trump?
alejandrozarzuelo: Sorry pal but the US is better than Russia
.coldcall: Especially.
alejandrozarzuelo: Russia is literally the worst
alejandrozarzuelo: Noooo
alejandrozarzuelo: Don't let Trump anywhere close to that
futurist_wizard: Russia is literally the deepstate
hikukomoru: No no no
rayanquitplayin: Probably, Ik Trump is unstable and controversial but we’ve been the good guys in history
alejandrozarzuelo: No
futurist_wizard: Trump doesn't even know what an agi is, to him its just funny ai machine
hikukomoru: You're clearly not the good guys anymore
Your president has threatened to invade and annex his own allies
alejandrozarzuelo: They weren't the good guys in the past either
alejandrozarzuelo: So... Anyway
alejandrozarzuelo: I hope France can compete with the big boys
futurist_wizard: America is second to russia currently in terms of villain arc
alejandrozarzuelo: We need a eyruoeab AI
hikukomoru: I liked pre-Trump US <:idk:1136264106937171999>
alejandrozarzuelo: It was bad but workable
alejandrozarzuelo: By pre Trump u mean pre 2016
rayanquitplayin: I didn’t even vote for Trump
futurist_wizard: North Korea is up there but its a little ant
hikukomoru: Kim Jong Un AGI 😨
alejandrozarzuelo: North Korea is pathetic
alejandrozarzuelo: They cry until they are appeased
rayanquitplayin: Crazy
alejandrozarzuelo: Even China hates them
alejandrozarzuelo: The only North Korean friend is Russia because they lend them their meat grindr
futurist_wizard: They are bratty and must be punished
hikukomoru: Imagine we get open source AGI and North Korea starts using it
rayanquitplayin: They will
hikukomoru: Kim needs a spanking
alejandrozarzuelo: On what ? The 3 computers Kim has on his bedroom?
futurist_wizard: Yes, handcuffs and duct tape 4 kim boy
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zoermena: Great what are the rates
hikukomoru: It's still the best model by far lol
hikukomoru: Actually deserves the hype unlike 4.1
ai9708: by far is a stretch, its just slightly more capable
.histic: the only moat OpenAI currently has is its market share.
i used to think Google would overtake OpenAI in the long run due to them not having any technical moat to begin with, but it seemed harder for people to switch to Google’s models over Openai’s.
but since DeepSeek entered the scene, i think Google has a strong chance. if their model performs well and offers a better cost-to-performance ratio.
unless OpenAI can match that ratio, i think their market share will shrink more in the next two years than it has in the past two.
hikukomoru: Do you have veo 2
_cloudost: Got it this morning, couldn't generate anything cuz my requests got blocked for 8-6 times
_cloudost: Then got hit with quota
hikukomoru: ARGHHH I STILL DONT HAVE IT
hikukomoru: why does everyone but me have veo 2
_cloudost: This is the only thing I could generate
_cloudost: Probably 100
spicy.lemonade: veo 2 sucks
.histic: maybe it's a europe thing
hikukomoru: So unless it's literally AGI you're not impressed lol?
zoermena: Great!
_cloudost: On whisk it's 100 rates
_cloudost: Rate limit
hikukomoru: Why not
hikukomoru: Cause LeCum says so?
zoermena: Yeah I just saw that on the bard discord
.histic: they need to fix controllability in Veo 3. sems inflexible.
the quality & physics understanding is good though, but it can't fill a wine glass to the brim yet.
hikukomoru: Is the new Kling here yet?
spicy.lemonade: "coding is not possible with llm"
"agent is not possible with llm"
"mathematical reasoning is not possible with llm"
"accurate image generation is not possible with llm"
hikukomoru: That's not really an answer
cmtclx: hi fellow visionaries
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> <@590577270926868480> turns out I actually do have veo 2
hikukomoru: I switched through dozens of google accounts to find one that had it
_cloudost: Congratulations
_cloudost: Now you can replace all Pixar animators
hikukomoru: I made a cat
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: how is this cope
spicy.lemonade: i jst told you things llms can do
spicy.lemonade: waity
spicy.lemonade: do you believe you are more qualified than all of researchers at deepmind
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: because this was said in their paper
spicy.lemonade: 4 days ago
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destrucules: This is not optional. It will be necessary as we keep scaling
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I don't think this will happen. Once you reach that level you're already at RSI
destrucules: To be clear, you can still have multiple models, I just mean you don't give every user their own little branch. Each model is globally synchronized across its instances
destrucules: This will happen as part of RSI
zonchao: ????
destrucules: I mean, RSI is a spectrum, and we already have many forms of it and keep increasing along the hierarchy of autonomy in RSI
destrucules: o3 itself is a form of RSI
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: are you talking about AI supervised RL?
destrucules: V3.1 is one round of amplification and autodistillation, the unit cell of IDA
zonchao: y'all think o3 is asi?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no
destrucules: I think o3 is just above the line, yes. That is, I don't think any single human on this planet is smarter than o3
destrucules: Same for Gemini 2.5 Pro
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I'll call o3 proto-agi at best
destrucules: Lmao
zonchao: i see, it seems your definition is different from the consensus
hikukomoru: >That handle
destrucules: \*beats virtually all human experts in intellectually demanding fields at their own areas of expertise\*
\*takes five minutes to do what takes them five days\*
"proto agi"
Like how do you say that with a straight face
destrucules: You're saying the consensus is that "ASI" does not mean "smarter than humans"?
zonchao: yes, i think agency plays a pretty big role
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: like a calculator? If o3 was agi it should be replacing most jobs
hikukomoru: Not even proto-agi
zoermena: Agency seems to be very advanced now, perhaps, I mean operator is not that great but I’m sure they could easily improve it with time
.wolfnacht: Maybe O3 is only 5-7% AGI
zonchao: yes, and when they do it'll be proto agi at best
hikukomoru: It's more like proto-proto-AGI
nester173: I ran out of o3 tokens so tested the following with o4-mini:
```
F is to C what N is to G what [letter] is to E
What's the letter?
```
It got it wrong.
.wolfnacht: we are back to AGI by 2035
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: 93%
hikukomoru: Always have been
zonchao: and memory
.histic: always has been
.wolfnacht: post transformer architecture would be 50% AGI
hikukomoru: The problem is that practically everyone has a different definition of AGI
So consensus is impossible
nester173: If o3 isn't leagues ahead of o4-mini, I don't think o3 is all that smart.
zonchao: source?
zonchao: 😈
zoermena: I guess
.wolfnacht: Cloning humans and putting them in a "sub" category is more cost effective than building AGI, but people would scream ethics and morality.
.histic: i refrain from definitions and only care for results.
and looking at o3's results.
it's meh.
nowhere near changing the economy and accelerating science n technology considerably nor even a dent.
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zoermena: <a:swagyes:723699383157391390>
hey1_1hey: Actually no scratch that, 100 years ago
abundantliving_:
hey1_1hey: AGI+
a1c4p0ne: 1 hour left
st.sioux: slightly less stupid agi
hikukomoru: Yup maybe deepseek too
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/cat-head-bang-exhausted-gif-16831747
spicy.lemonade: 30 mins
a1c4p0ne: Not 10:30?
futurist_wizard:
popsiclejohnithan: China is definitely leading in energy and compute efficiency that's for sure.
literallyvarane: Gemini’s view is a bit more nuanced I suppose
literallyvarane:
zoermena: A smarter answer
hikukomoru: I love Oblivion so much
I'm more hyped for Skyblivion and the Oblivion Remake than o4
literallyvarane:
zoermena: Oblivion the movie?
hikukomoru: The videogame
futurist_wizard: Wtf is skyblivion
hikukomoru: Oblivion remade in Skyrim
abundantliving_: this server is for o4 then
popsiclejohnithan: Oblivion remade in Skyrim.
hikukomoru: This is the Oblivion server now
futurist_wizard: Im a fallout man
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-gif-18732240
return_to_monke1_33974: Full AGI pro max +
return_to_monke1_33974: high
literallyvarane: I guess for me personally, I think that you can be AGI via only text output so being proto AGI via only text is possible. But clearly that’s not what these models view as valid
abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/wild-stewie-family-guy-hype-hyper-gif-16632315
futurist_wizard: I only played oblivion when i was 8-9 or something and wanted to be lizard man
st.sioux: i need agency for agi bro
abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sponge-bob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-meme-hyper-gif-16582929222326260639
hikukomoru: My race is always Khajiit, the cat people
abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/baby-crazy-baby-hyper-hyper-baby-when-the-molly-hits-gif-5676484
zoermena:
a1c4p0ne: Will 2.5 be dethroned after today
futurist_wizard: Literally
popsiclejohnithan: I wonder when we will get TES 6 smh.
futurist_wizard: Sam altman is hype beast
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spicy.lemonade: phd everything
spicy.lemonade: #1 competative programmer
spicy.lemonade: also agency=agi
spicy.lemonade: in my scenario tbh
spicy.lemonade: top agency gets us agi
abundantliving_: Just reminds me of everything subscription, food , internet, chatgpt , fucking keep working to pay for subscriptions , if you can't. You die
brain4brain: Elementary level
Primary level
High-school level
College level
PhD level <——We are here
Nobel level
Superhuman level
aero447: We are not.
spicy.lemonade: guys
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: new countdown
brain4brain: The problems of the moravec paradox also applies where it can be PhD level, but fail on simple visual-reasoning problem or word puzzle that every human can solve but LLM is shit at
aero447: Models can't even beat Pokemon.
spicy.lemonade: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
brain4brain: It lacks agency, trust the process
aero447: PhD's code Pokemon.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: https://lifearchitect.ai/asi/
spicy.lemonade: wow this ismore concrete
spicy.lemonade: than his agi one
brain4brain: Thats Claude-3.7-sonnet not full o3, full o3 is PhD level
aero447: Gemini 2.5 beats o3.
aero447: Can't beat Pokemon.
aero447: 😂
brain4brain: No it didn’t
aero447: Yes, it did.
aero447: Look at Google's DR vs OpenAI's.
aero447: It crushes o3's benchmarks.
spicy.lemonade: we dont know that actually
spicy.lemonade: lol
aero447: We do.
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 is stiull playing
aero447: It's been weeks.
spicy.lemonade: got farther than claude so far
brain4brain: To be fair, it was given a map
fractalcomputer: Models have not produced meaningful results in "PhD-level" research.
brain4brain: They should make the model make it own map
aero447: Are you implying that the model can beat Pokemon faster than a small child?
spicy.lemonade: most phds dont
aero447: Because even small children beat those games.
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hikukomoru: D-D-Do you think I'm c-cute...? <:uwu:1136266737420079195>
ailoveyoom: Bro doesn't like feeling needed 😔
wellmeaningalien: ur brains not empty enough but not filled enough
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: Ratty with weird arms
hikukomoru: My mind empty only think horny
anathemaofmankind: I do as long as it's not some parasitic bullshit
wellmeaningalien: yeah sounds about right
spacetimetsunami: Guys I am basically the most intelligent brain in the observable universe. The people funding Stargate could literally just call me and save 500 billion dollars.
futurist_wizard: You need to get on nofap, cleanse yourself
wellmeaningalien: theyd just be paying you 500 billion dollars to call me
spacetimetsunami: 😂😂😂
hikukomoru: Waow pretty
spicy.lemonade: I will support it with a character design
spicy.lemonade: No way they’re gonna think it’s ai
_3sphere: Then put something in there (other than gooning)
anathemaofmankind: Just ask the planet behind him to get removed
wellmeaningalien: oh my god thats SO fucking twitter queer cartoon nerd self insert artist
hikukomoru: I don't want to think about anything else
fractalcomputer: Humans can be surprisingly smart.
wellmeaningalien: says human
spicy.lemonade: It’s gonna change it too
Much
hikukomoru: You're so smart Fractal 🫦 🫦
anathemaofmankind: Photoshop content aware filter
fractalcomputer: How do you expect me to respond to this?
fractalcomputer: With amusement? With laughter? With sorrow?
maintcrew: fractal u like land right
fractalcomputer: Nick?
maintcrew: yea
hikukomoru: Respond with this image next time
maintcrew:
fractalcomputer: Sure.
maintcrew: <@749514473303179358>
futurist_wizard: With sorrow as always
fractalcomputer: Amusing.
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
hikukomoru: This style is so generic it hurts
darkstar0818: I feel like its going to be memes 24/7 going forward.
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont usually agree with you concerning aesthetics but you are sooo correct in this case
zonchao: https://x.com/networkspirits/status/1905014960670798300?
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ailoveyoom: Sex is very eww tbh
ailoveyoom: All those fluids
hikukomoru: You of all people saying that
destrucules: That's who they are. Be kind
futurist_wizard: Masturbation to a screen isn't sex
hey1_1hey: Sounsd like over stimulation to me lil bro
hey1_1hey: Just autism
ailoveyoom: Talking about sex 👍
Sex irl 😔
hikukomoru: The fluids are hot
ailoveyoom: Maybe only in fiction
hikukomoru: I don't like being kind
hikukomoru: In real life
hey1_1hey: Mich mach the type of guy to get over stimulated when being kissed
hikukomoru: And the smell
himekokatagiri: I swear the wait to 2029
himekokatagiri: is gonna kill me
hey1_1hey: You just gotta live your life innit
hikukomoru: I thought you were down bad but I guess not <@430269783112548362>
hikukomoru: You can't match my freak
hey1_1hey: Yeah mich mach is aroace smh
futurist_wizard: 2029 ain't confirmed
hey1_1hey: 2025 is tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spacetimetsunami: It is by me
futurist_wizard: No
ailoveyoom: Only for fiction <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Aroace gooner 🔥
hey1_1hey: That physically cant eixst
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> you don't exist
futurist_wizard: Some of you have genuinely given up irl sex to fuck screens
hey1_1hey: What are you gooning to? Skin cells?
futurist_wizard: Horrifying
hikukomoru: Damn
All of my fetishes translate to real life too
ailoveyoom: Faces
hikukomoru: I don't fuck screens
hey1_1hey: Thats fucked up, I gotta start wearing a mask now just incase there are any aro ace stealth gooners
hikukomoru: WTF
futurist_wizard: Have you actually gotten the W before?
hikukomoru: I now regret posting my Ghiblified pic here
hikukomoru: Ew
ailoveyoom: In a sexual context bruh, not just random faces
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spicy.lemonade: 2.5 literally can
spicy.lemonade: ?
metaldragon01: One of those
metaldragon01: Lol
metaldragon01: It can make a new game
fractalcomputer: Where did you find that quote? From Reddit? I mean, we can bicker about the definition of the fallacy all day, but appealing to its definition will not help your case.
spicy.lemonade: you cant make a completly new game either
metaldragon01: Yiu have no idea how any of this works
metaldragon01: And you should stop pretending that you do tbh
hikukomoru: https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/36228/is-one-commiting-the-argument-from-authority-fallacy-and-or-the-consensus-fal
.histic: 4o img gen
fractalcomputer: If you do not think that it is a fallacy, you should provide reasonable causes to believe that one can draw veridical knowledge from these figures.
spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with would have been based on what someone else has already done
hikukomoru: This why arguing with you is so bothersome lol
hikukomoru: You're just a contrarian
spicy.lemonade: yeah
.histic: <@430269783112548362> wait, you said distinct <:LOL:1187460826572005436> nvm
.histic: i'll try again
fractalcomputer: Oh don't you go citing Alejandro. Just because I actually fucking ask you to evince your beliefs beyond the vaguest notions of "someone else said so" does not make conversation with me any more difficult than with any other person off the street.
ailoveyoom: I mean still cool tho, was this what you wanted to see from Veo?
metaldragon01: @xau tell me an orginal thought that's not based on any you've learned from the world around you.
spicy.lemonade: you cant make a game completly out of this dimension bro
fractalcomputer: **I'll say this again**: if you do not think it is a fallacy, provide your *own reasoning* why this is the case.
hikukomoru: Nah Alejandro is right. I understand how he feels now
literallyvarane: Dead feels like he’s trolling lolol
spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with will have been based on someone else
spicy.lemonade: exactly
fractalcomputer: Oh Jesus Christ, you can't be this retarded. I ask for a simple fucking argument for your own position.
.histic: kind of, but even more cartoonish. 💀
like they're moving just as a human would when dancing.
hey1_1hey: Is this a bad time to see whats going on
metaldragon01: Then do it.
spicy.lemonade: so can a model. whats your point. I can ask a model to make up a random gaame system. and set temp high. there is no difference
zoermena: <@590577270926868480> I just saw that you can’t I think do image to video with whisk without making the image again on whisk which is sad, I also did a quick read on how it works in advanced and it doesn’t say the rate limits, just a notification once you approach such limit.
fractalcomputer: I am in a bit of a bad mood and do not have the tolerance for bullshit argumentation.
ailoveyoom: It's a good time to take out the popcorn 🗣️🍿
hikukomoru: Ok 👍
spicy.lemonade: come up with a new concrete theory for quantum mechanics right now
spicy.lemonade: no no
spicy.lemonade: you said
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627
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.histic: <@430269783112548362> when will it be back 😔
spacetimetsunami: There are other less abstracted figures in there
anathemaofmankind: What if AI thinks humanity is better off gone via utilitarianism.
Humans existing = Poverty, inequality, suffering, etc
If you wish to remove all suffering, then making humans extinct is the fastest option
st.sioux: yeah its a dumb premise, like destrucules was arguing with fractal about how consciousness is similar to how llms process information when we dont even know what consciousness is or how to measure it
st.sioux: like
st.sioux: ???
spacetimetsunami: It wouldnt make sense based on already established fundamental utilites. Its trained on human data and so i thinks from a more humanitarian perspective. This is why models are super left leaning and openly speak in opposition to individualist policies and such
spacetimetsunami: this is shown in the paper
spacetimetsunami: and via interaction with any model
anathemaofmankind: Well it sacrified Norwegians pretty easily so idk man
spacetimetsunami: the premise I am implying is proven
ailoveyoom: You could try 2.5 Pro Exp, I actually kinda like its writing
brain4brain: Can GPT-4o make an image of a scrambled Rubik’s cube next to a mirror or does it still failed this test
.histic: it was a joke, look at the image
spacetimetsunami: okay, replicate situations with the same methodolgy and you will never find this happening
spacetimetsunami: like im saying, its an implicit result of the promts they used
spacetimetsunami: based on the contexts of the prompts
anathemaofmankind: Imagine being a Norwegian and seeing the pdf lol
brain4brain: Isn’t Claude already back
.histic: but yeah, 2.5 pro is great.
i use R1 (& R3) with 2.5 pro.
i'm a brokie.
i do use Claude sometimes.
.histic: look at the gear in the image 😏
anathemaofmankind: Is your position that it's impossible for a malignant actor to create a malevolent AI?
ailoveyoom: Wtf is R3??
anathemaofmankind: That sounds like cope
spacetimetsunami: No, just that its increasingly unlikely given the alignment methods and training data used to train current LLMs
spacetimetsunami: its certainly possible
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Bruh
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: were just getting lucky so far
anathemaofmankind: Well I think it's likely that Elon Musk will finetune Grok 4 to be as racist as possible
spacetimetsunami: Then why isnt it
anathemaofmankind: And there goes the alignment
spacetimetsunami: hes tried
spacetimetsunami: hard
spacetimetsunami: the beta kinda was for a bit
spacetimetsunami: and then poof
spacetimetsunami: gone
anathemaofmankind: Hence why I am talking about future releases.
He's having troubles now but he's definitely going to make changes
spacetimetsunami: How is a neural net supposed to be mega coherent abt math and science (which are abstracted frameworks abt reality) but not ethics and politics? All of it is arguably just as arbitrary
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frittata: And relevance
fuhulootogan: that is the most peculiar definition i've ever heard
alejandrozarzuelo: the collective part is probably not necessary
fuhulootogan: i like how you call definitions "arbitrary" and then proceed to go on to call a dictionaries definition "shit"
fuhulootogan: inferring from your message, if all definitions are arbitrary how do you rank them?
fuhulootogan: how do you separate the wheat from the chaff if it's all the same thing
frittata: Unfortunately there’s two definitions and they’re lowkey opposites. Arbitrary has colloquially taken on the meaning of capricious and even random; historically, arbitrary meant a judgment call, often by an expert or experts in a field
frittata: Kind of how literally now means both literally and it’s opposite 💀
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, it was very biased of me to have said that
let me rephrase my thoghts
The definition of art, woman, tea, paper etc is arbitrary as all definitions are
these definitions as long as they are considtent are valid
but definitions change to be USEFUL, as veing valid alone doesnt make a definition good
the definition of art being a human creativity endavor is valid, in my opinion it is not useful
the same way that defining a woman as a human with female reproductive organs is valid, but not useful
inferno0879: that conclusion is a bit arbitrary
fuhulootogan: okay
fuhulootogan: lets just
fuhulootogan: define arbitrary first
fuhulootogan: in the sense i suppose you're trying to define it
fuhulootogan:
fuhulootogan: this definition feels a lot easier to swallow
alejandrozarzuelo: as <@723564215574462474> said, this is not what arbitrary used to mean
alejandrozarzuelo: arbitrary comes from ARBIT
alejandrozarzuelo: you know the guy who decides what is foul play on a football match
st.sioux: the definition of arbitrary is abritrary
inferno0879: my personal opinion is that arbitrary is similar in meaning to debatable
alejandrozarzuelo: all definitions are
fuhulootogan: yikes
fuhulootogan: a lot of differentiating diverse definitions right here
fuhulootogan: i'd just like to add this in
alejandrozarzuelo: arbitrary just means that it is not objective
for example, the rules of football are arbitrary, we decided these rules to be this way and there is no objective reason why they culd not be another way
fuhulootogan: even though i'm not clear on the definition of arbitrary
fuhulootogan: your point of definitions being arbitrary
fuhulootogan: seems debatable
alejandrozarzuelo: the rules of football , definitions, are not based on objective reality
frittata: Anyway I don’t think I would call definitions arbitrary as much as based on a common understanding, which may change over time
alejandrozarzuelo: they are agreed upon
fuhulootogan: this
frittata: Strong linguistic descriptivist over here ofc
fuhulootogan: i was just about to say that
ailoveyoom: Gang we made up language
inferno0879: arbiters follow the rules but make judgement calls
ailoveyoom: We can just change defs
fuhulootogan: well
fuhulootogan: i was contemplating it
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joaoluz19: Oh yes, makes sense.
sarik0497: Honestly, I feel like identity is a combination of how our brain is built, our environment, and experiences.
_3sphere: It's more like on balance neutral, there might have to be some micro-fluctuations above and below zero
sarik0497: Someone tell Trump that Mind-Uploading is within reach, and watch him advance the research a hundred fold.
okbut: Tell him China is leading it
okbut: I don't think he cares at all about AI lmao
sarik0497: He's good friends with China now, though.
sarik0497: Tell him that Canada is leading it
st.sioux: *trump donates OpenAI to china*
okbut: Would never believe it
wellmeaningalien: the thing is
wellmeaningalien: nobody fucking knows
wellmeaningalien: nobody can be sure what consciousness is and whether it would persist in such a situation
joaoluz19: I didn't know these categories, interesting
wellmeaningalien: because you could have some idea of it but you can never 100% verify it in practice
okbut: He wants to uphold relationships ofc but I think his goal is to keep USA ahead on the tech race
bob082957: T is the Steve Jobs from Pantheon
sarik0497: I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't know what the "Pantheon" is, as I have seen it be reference here multiple times 💀
joaoluz19: The idea is not to try to figure out what consciousness is, but rather to record and stimulate "parts" of it.
hikukomoru: Tumblr slop cartoon
joaoluz19: For example, which receptive fields in my visual cortex do I need to stimulate to be able to see a Sydney Sweeney in front of me?
sarik0497: Ah okay. Thanks!
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: i wish
sarik0497: So...anything exciting happening this year, or are we just sitting here, praying that GPT-5 is actually good?
joaoluz19: Now add vision, add hearing, add epicriticism
joaoluz19: Add reward, add hapiness
joaoluz19: Like fuck philosophy let's just build what we want
okbut: How much weight on emulating horniness? So many great innovations stem from the desire to fuck
bob082957: How many tokens
okbut: "I sure hope my capital impresses this Sydney Sweeney"
joaoluz19:
sarik0497: Here's the thing about these things that I feel like people miss. The reason why we say "Oh, X and Y is not good nor smart to do, so stop it" is due to our limitations.
We might say that "Oh, falling in love with someone in VRchat is bad if you never meet IRL" because we need the feel of touch, but now imagine if we could invent ways to have our bodies feel those things while in game while being hundreds, if not thousands of kilometres away. Would that not be similar enough to the real thing to be considered good enough?
It's the same with concepts of LEV. If you ask most people now if they believe that they'll be live into their hundreds, then they will say no, and those who don't are called delusional, and if you talk about immortality, people often argue that "Oh, is life then worth living?" or "You're going against nature", but I'd bet all I have that most people gladly take that pill if it was available.
.0xunkn0wn: what happened to gemini
sarik0497: AGI delayed to 203x <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
.0xunkn0wn: how do i fix this 😭
.0xunkn0wn: i want to prove to someone that ai is good
.0xunkn0wn: but gemini will keep printing an error 💀
okbut: Use Grok
joaoluz19:
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spicy.lemonade: Move 38<:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-24-25-gif-13595902
brain4brain: That doesn’t make sense
spicy.lemonade: thats the joke
brain4brain: Ah
a1c4p0ne:
brain4brain: End of 2025 at the earliest, end of 2026 at the lastest
himekokatagiri: I think it's too early
himekokatagiri: GPT-5 will seal the deal
spicy.lemonade: according to ai 2027
spicy.lemonade: no agi this year
spicy.lemonade: and overall
spicy.lemonade: will be mid year
spicy.lemonade: but eoy theyl have internal phd research agents
spicy.lemonade: not agi
himekokatagiri: no I mean
spicy.lemonade: but rsi
himekokatagiri: GPT-5 will set the scene
himekokatagiri: like if it sucks
spicy.lemonade: tru
himekokatagiri: forget about AGI soon(ish)
otub: gpt-5 isnt even a model
himekokatagiri: not yet!
a1c4p0ne: Hallucinations won’t be solved this year
zonchao: gpt 5 is a collection of concepts of a plan
otub: true
spicy.lemonade: wdym
a1c4p0ne: Googles day tmr
spicy.lemonade: why
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
a1c4p0ne: New releases
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: you said this yesterday
a1c4p0ne: I mean Tuesday tmr
spicy.lemonade: 👀 which
otub: > After that, a top goal for us is to unify o-series models and GPT-series models by creating systems that can use all our tools, know when to think for a long time or not, and generally be useful for a very wide range of tasks.
> In both ChatGPT and our API, we will release GPT-5 as a system that integrates a lot of our technology, including o3. We will no longer ship o3 as a standalone model.
spicy.lemonade: that doesnt mean its not a model
otub: it’s a system
spicy.lemonade: of new models
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hey1_1hey: I mean I weigh 50kg so you can just tell me to stfu and I would
hikukomoru: <@990426980279283735> this guy who keeps getting pinged instead of me
futurist_wizard: good boy
a1c4p0ne: What about me
zoermena: WE ARE SO BACK
metaldragon01: Nothing big is coming on April 1st
hikukomoru: Horny autist
zoermena: I GOT MY BONUS
zoermena: FUCK YESSS
a1c4p0ne: Oh
777agical: Probably? But I thought o3 wasn’t getting released and was to be with gpt5. So maybe api release
hey1_1hey: Wait you've actually reminded me, I knew there was something up with my gender when I was like "huh, thats odd. I'd rather be called a good girl than a good boy". Thank you for reminding me
hey1_1hey: Whats gon on?
hikukomoru: I was just shy
hikukomoru: AGI
hey1_1hey: Real
zoermena: i got my full bonus, im rich
hey1_1hey: It better be open soruce
hikukomoru: Waow that's bigger than AGI
hikukomoru: Congrats
hey1_1hey: Odd question, but whats everyones baseline happiness here?
zoermena: I could afford pro for 2 months
hey1_1hey: Is everone just missrible or what
futurist_wizard: You'd prefer to go by she/her?
zoermena: Yes but talking with the people here gives me more life
wellmeaningalien: whos that guy
777agical: OpenAI research scientist
hey1_1hey: Femboy with she/her prob. ( Not a trans women ).
Its complicated and I gotta reason with my self every day with it
zoermena: Yall are like my favorite people not even joking
wellmeaningalien: cool
wellmeaningalien: gibity 5
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: Ight das cool
hey1_1hey: What if I called you a bunch of racial slurs
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-parkour-mental-mental-gymnastics-gif-27542831
maintcrew: omgggg can i join
_3sphere: Moving average over the last year or some theoretical undisturbed default?
hey1_1hey: Futureist blonde is my scape goat
zoermena: This baseline is better than what my mom told me when I was growing up
hey1_1hey: He says I can be whatever so will be
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_cloudost: is it better than grok 3 or slightly better?
.histic: 4.5 is like 3T+
777agical: Did Zuck pull thru?! Is it over or are we back? Someone tell me how to feel rn
darkstar0818: I already responded to this. You simply give the models your real world tasks via API, then assess the API costs vs the realized value.
3ds0662: hasnt released yet but hes calling it better than claude 3.7
wellmeaningalien: tell me what are your estimated parameters sizes
3ds0662: and 4.5
3ds0662: if he opensources something like that for free oh my god
darkstar0818: absolute values are irrelevant, relative values per $ are all that matters.
3ds0662: zuck is a hero
wellmeaningalien: ok so basically you dont know anything
wellmeaningalien: and you were talking about those parameter sizes and i ask you and you say idk
hey1_1hey: Hey everyone how is llama 4? Whats the vibe check on it?
_cloudost: Altman might open source GPT-5 tho u need 1008 nvidia gpus to run it
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/zuck-zuckerberg-freedom-peak-performance-gif-22220456
hey1_1hey: Zuck is a true red blooded American patriot
darkstar0818: What an astute observation, I stand corrected.
futurist_wizard: I guess zucky isn't so cucky after all
3ds0662: https://www.llama.com/llama4-reasoning-is-coming/
_cloudost: how much token context? 2 billion?
wellmeaningalien: that all you have to say
3ds0662: 10M
_cloudost: rip software engineers
3ds0662: jk dont jnow
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hey1_1hey: You had me hyped then
3ds0662: but thats the other llama models context 10M
_cloudost: oh ok software engineers are safe for this week
literallyvarane: How official is this llama stuff?
hey1_1hey: On the brightside Artists were done for last week
3ds0662: i cant wait for swe’s to be made obsolete superhuman coder then its ggs for everyone else
st.sioux: the design is very official
hey1_1hey: This would be a ultra high tier troll
3ds0662: btw where is yann lecun whats his name at?
3ds0662: shouldnt he be ranting and dissapointed at another llm release?
hey1_1hey: Prob, he is prob still recovering from 4o native image gen
.wolfnacht: can't wait for behemoth open-weights
3ds0662: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/VR2qrwHeAh
.wolfnacht: 🥵
3ds0662: lmaoo
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wellmeaningalien: nah meat on your bones is good
.histic: nice
wellmeaningalien: cool
wellmeaningalien: yeah tell him to lose weight
.histic: <@990426980279283735> whats ur height tho?
_3sphere: I'm ~180 72 kg, hm
maintcrew: ok a healthy person
maintcrew: we cooking
zoermena: He does go to the gym but idk
wellmeaningalien:
_3sphere: via divine benevolence
wellmeaningalien: how heavy is he
_3sphere: my lifestyle is *not* the reason 💀
wellmeaningalien: and height
wellmeaningalien: ur good
maintcrew: i think we should genocide the twinks
hikukomoru: All the short guys here might as well be women
wellmeaningalien: hey no good man twink revolution
zoermena: Probs 5.7 idk the weight but you can see it for sure
ailoveyoom: You're a gooner who lacks sleep, do you at least eat decent?
hikukomoru: Did you mean to ping me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
maintcrew: ur leader is sam altman and he deserves the guillotine
.histic: yes
.histic: woops
wellmeaningalien: sam's homonculus AI baby will protect us
hikukomoru: 163 cm/5'4 height and 58 kg weight
maintcrew: manlet
_3sphere: Mich still worried about my sleep 🥺
drewsni: Isn’t this the cuck
wellmeaningalien: ts hard asf feel free to repost
inferno0879: im 190cm 120kg 💀
maintcrew: can i screenshot this tuff as hell
hikukomoru: Damn fat bitch
wellmeaningalien: YUP
.histic: i'm taller than you yet weigh the same weight.
i don't think you're fat, i bet that weight goes elsewhere 💀
maintcrew: fatass
memlaswaif: <:rempeek:825752804802166874>
maintcrew: lose some weight u wont be able to outrun the ai killer bots
inferno0879: i do work out but yes i am a fatass
wellmeaningalien: bro whose this japanese prompter who keeps making balloon teachers with fat tits
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fractalcomputer: I became properly acquainted with transhumanism through reading Harari's Homo Deus back in the day.
ailoveyoom: How did it work tho? P1 turn, AI turn, P2 turn?
fractalcomputer: Been over a decade since that was published.
anathemaofmankind: There were no turns.
Literally you could just type whenever and it would continue the RP
wellmeaningalien: yeah
wellmeaningalien: and often it was retarded and started yapping about somethng else entirely
wellmeaningalien: completely different characters completely different settings
zoermena: Dementia be like
anathemaofmankind: Yeah. It felt like an actual text predictor instead of what we have now.
But to be fair it was 2020 so it felt advanced as fuck back then
anathemaofmankind: I still remember having my mind blown that I could type whatever and it would respond
alejandrozarzuelo: we still have a long way to go to AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: AGI 2029 seems like a reasonable date, for as tongue in cheek as it may be
drewsni: my more conservative opinion is that. 2028/2029 for AGI, but the amount of areas where we have AGI level spiky intelligence will be so high by next year that nobody will care
zoermena: I’ll be 26 in 2029
hey1_1hey: I'll be 22
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364
hey1_1hey: I might as well start prepearing for retirement#
hey1_1hey: Don't skull react that message bruh 😭
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/lebron-pigeon-ai-brainrot-construction-gif-3567584481701324703
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: frontier math
spicy.lemonade: might even make a big discovery next year
fractalcomputer: In what area?
.wolfnacht: one day i'll be this
shirethedreamer: its out of jealousy bruh
shedding that much time off my clock would do wonders for my lev chances
memlaswaif: how old r u
spicy.lemonade: ML or math. those of which require the least physical things to test with
.wolfnacht:
spicy.lemonade: it really got the open eyes
shirethedreamer: why didnt it do the sussy vance in the back?
its so good with detail usually?
.wolfnacht: wait has no one tried to make a ghibli version of him ?
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: Made for a friend
shirethedreamer: when you take first place in an international math competition and get summoned to a fantasy world believing you are magic badass champion
memlaswaif: what's edp doing there
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: Ai schizos start young these days
aero447: Bruh.
aero447: That implies you're a 2007 baby.
spicy.lemonade: same
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wellmeaningalien: j'ai jamais entendu ça dans aucun de mes cours de français tu sais
wellmeaningalien: qu'ils s'appelaient comme ça
hikukomoru: Well as a Portuguese person I can verify that Russian kind of sounds like Portuguese lol
futurist_wizard:
fractalcomputer: Mes termes ont une tendance à être idiosyncratiques, tu devrais le savoir.
wellmeaningalien: bah je croyais qu'ils étaient idiosyncratiques à tes larousses non
fractalcomputer: Même si mon amour pour les mots amphigouriques reste en français.
wellmeaningalien: le français a des mots qui sont si droles
wellmeaningalien: l'anglais n'y mesure pas
fractalcomputer: Je te doute.
wellmeaningalien: bah
wellmeaningalien: presque
wellmeaningalien: <a:lolbye:1187461325534793851>
fractalcomputer: L'approximation est l'ennemi principal de l'espèce humaine.
wellmeaningalien: nan franchement je sens que parfois le français a, du genre, 5 mots qui décrivent casiment la même chose
wellmeaningalien: en effet le cas en anglais aussi, grâce au français
wellmeaningalien: bah l'approximation c'est ce qui fait tourner le monde
alejandrozarzuelo: fractal probablement ne partages pas cette idee
fractalcomputer: Tu les sais, ceux qui utilisent l'approximation comme leur langue seconde, ceux qui étudient les mathématiques appliquées.
wellmeaningalien: putain fractal c'est quoi que t'as contre ces mathematiciens appliqués
wellmeaningalien: 😮💨
wellmeaningalien: le plus je vie le plus j'ai realise ceci
fractalcomputer: Mais grâce au bon Seigneur, la France a toujours resté une fortification véritable contre les hordes des mathématiques appliquées.
alejandrozarzuelo: moi je suis d'accord, la perfection c'est l'enemi du bon
wellmeaningalien: bah la casi totalité des domaines d'étude scientifiques qui ne sont pas les mathematiques?
wellmeaningalien: bah il est grand temps pour un révolution
alejandrozarzuelo: villeneuve d'asqc be like:
._.
wellmeaningalien: <@688807313015963693> and me 😈
wellmeaningalien: les philosophes de la lumière
fractalcomputer: Ils ont peu d'intelligence et moins de la soif de la vérité.
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cellular-automaton-mythos-cardano-nft-cnft-gif-16900418931780605171
wellmeaningalien: eh bien
wellmeaningalien: 🫢
wellmeaningalien: d'accord
fractalcomputer: L'un de mes amis m'a donné un livre de Montesquieu pour mon anniversaire; je crois que cet acte a été un certain type de blague.
alejandrozarzuelo: villeneuve dasqc a la reputation d'etre un pole d'innovation scientifique et technologique, pas si connu pour les maths abstracts, sinon le contraire, la science et les mathematiques appliques vers le progres technologuique
fractalcomputer: Il m'a dit qu'il me ferait mieux lire les oeuvres de tels penseurs.
wellmeaningalien: ce mec c'était juste une note en bas de la page dans nos cours d'histoire
wellmeaningalien: bwah
wellmeaningalien: pour de vrai?
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spicy.lemonade: I like the current system we have
gotkafa22: so how is the hype going here?
_3sphere: Fractal Sabine arc???
fractalcomputer: Lunatics the lot of them.
spicy.lemonade: we need people like that to constantly think about how to apply new discoveries
fractalcomputer: I'd call this my Wittgenstein era.
spicy.lemonade: no agi yet
okbut: 2nd scariest Austrian
gotkafa22: some detox is in order i assume
fractalcomputer: Besides, Hossenfelder is quite happy to use mathematics whenever it suits her ill deeds.
himekokatagiri: hello fractal
himekokatagiri: it's me himeko
alejandrozarzuelo: thats not true tho, it cant travel faster than light in local environments
there is no evidence in favor or against FTL with other methods
alejandrozarzuelo: not necessarily, new formultions say that negative energy is enough
alejandrozarzuelo: this was the original Alcubierre calculation, modern ones require small amounts of negative energy
spicy.lemonade: yeah we only need about 700 kg of negative energy
fractalcomputer: Negative energy. Unbelievable.
spicy.lemonade: prob less
fractalcomputer: Might as well start asking for imaginary energy now.
spicy.lemonade: it does exist though
spicy.lemonade: unlike exotic matter
alejandrozarzuelo: this isnt about the economy, this is about obtaining negative energy
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't be so sure about that.
gotkafa22: i was going to post this, but what i am reading now is even levels beyond a grounded discussion
himekokatagiri: is June gonna be our month
fractalcomputer: Since we're apparently just so fine and dandy with imposing algebraic notions on physical ideas, yes.
spicy.lemonade: we arent talking about AI
alejandrozarzuelo: actually no, massless particles have a much easier time (in theory) doing warp bubbles than things with mass
alejandrozarzuelo: true, just because we dont have any evidence against it we dont have any evidence in favour either
spicy.lemonade: august
alejandrozarzuelo: rare time i agree with you
fractalcomputer: > "Actually, no"
> no link with "empirical reality"
fractalcomputer: Hm. Curious.
alejandrozarzuelo: ehhhhhhhhh
fractalcomputer: I don't think you understood what I said. I was saying that physics itself is an entirely meaningless affair and an exercise in profound futility.
alejandrozarzuelo: ah i thought you meant on these cases where we dont have empirical evidence
fractalcomputer: God, what is up with my orthography today.
alejandrozarzuelo: not by default
fractalcomputer: What is evidence, Alejandro?
alejandrozarzuelo: negative energy could be obtained... but we dont know if that kind of negative energy is bonafide negative energy for spacetime curvature
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hganhhh: yeah thats me dw
hey1_1hey: Medicinal chemistry is goated 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
hganhhh: rate the flag
hey1_1hey: ASS
hganhhh: its a country in africa
trent_k: 😏
hey1_1hey: Ass flag still
hey1_1hey: Doesn't change my opinion bruh
hganhhh: post your country's flag rn
hey1_1hey: Mines cool asf
trent_k: 🇺🇸 😎
hey1_1hey:
hganhhh: the us flag doesnt have that many stars
hey1_1hey: Got a big ass dragon on mine
hikukomoru: This guy is Portuguese 🥀
hganhhh: where is wales on a map
hikukomoru: I'm so ashamed of my country
hganhhh: can you point to it
trent_k: we need to add more stars to it, starting with greenland
hey1_1hey: You wouldnt be able to find it if you tried
.histic: i knew it
hganhhh: ok
hey1_1hey: So now what. Big tonys become broing again
trent_k: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Hes not being racist or anything
hikukomoru: Portuguese soyjak
.histic: <@439829942310666250>
4o bugged out when drawing her in a bikini. i've been trying for like 10-mins and it either freezes or just stops due to violations. but i got this instead
st.sioux: i love greenland 💚💚💚 i have always been grelnland fan #1 💚
hey1_1hey: Thats just a portugeuse person
hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOO
trent_k: 👀
hikukomoru: WOAH MAMA
hey1_1hey: Id fuck me bro
.histic: oh, it worked.
hey1_1hey: Id still fuck me
st.sioux: goon shit
trent_k: Whoa mama! Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing! eyes pop out AROOOOOOOOGA! jaw drops tongue rolls out WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF tongue bursts out of the mouth uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr tiny cupid shoots an arrow through heart Ahhhhhhhhhhh me lady... heart in the shape of a heart starts beating so hard you can see it through shirt ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum*
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168
hey1_1hey: Return to monkey
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.wolfnacht: maybe straight up guro
hey1_1hey: I mean that tracks for people I know
.wolfnacht: same, i found some people on internet having these kinks
.wolfnacht: and talked with them
.wolfnacht: they sound sane
hey1_1hey: This is irl for me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.wolfnacht: 😩 luckyyy
hey1_1hey: I wonder what the corolation is between taboo rating and female vs male
hey1_1hey: The people I know will just list their kinks if you ask them
hey1_1hey: Its just something we talk about openly
_3sphere: Unhinged fetishes don't seem to affect the rest of someone's mind much, oddly enough
_3sphere: you wouldn't know
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Indeed, theres a person with necro I know vaugly and they are perfectly normal
maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>
hey1_1hey: Alright alright
maintcrew: MUSHROOM
hey1_1hey: Yes hello
maintcrew: I dont want anymore sexuality talk in my general singularity
maintcrew: stop being horny
maintcrew: NOW
hey1_1hey: Sorry, sir 🙏 😇 ✝️
hey1_1hey: Anyway its not me being horny
hey1_1hey: I have an interest in learning about kinks and fetishes thank you very much
maintcrew: Talk to the hand lil bro but do it in off topic
maintcrew: NOW
zonchao: my goat https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906316724544094461?
hey1_1hey: I'll see you there, seargent
hey1_1hey: This guy and fractal would get along
maintcrew: i follow a few parody accounts of this guy so im never sure if its actually him or some parody dude
hikukomoru:
maintcrew: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906004120768774184
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> true?
sarik0497: Disgusting. Look at that fetish; "Cuddling". Yuck.
wellmeaningalien: JIANKUI HE SLAYYYY
wellmeaningalien: JIANKUI HE FUCKING SLAY
inferno0879: https://youtube.com/shorts/1Ww5v_FbnqQ
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/giffmana/status/1906273974457122970? they fighting again <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
inferno0879: Schizo bb er?
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technocake.: jan le cooked
zonchao: <@88481490228228096> <:cringe:1136264606256472104>
drewsni: i dont care because im using agi rn
technocake.: you also have the power to declare bankrupcy, that doesn't make it true
drewsni: it also fuckin cooked you
trent_k:
zonchao: it was funny
zonchao: what was the prompt
drewsni:
zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>
drewsni: bro it knows you better than you know yourself
zonchao: <:bruhsmilin:853257512971272232>
memlaswaif: 4/23/4801
zonchao: server is obsessed with me like I am with Elon <:CrySparkle:1315743925947859066>
zonchao: <:ASZODhomiekiss:1127263657059950713>
drewsni: almost like ur the lolcow of this server
zonchao: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
trent_k:
technocake.: schizos are cooked
joaoluz19: Wait why the fuck did gpt put blood in her mouth?
technocake.: the hotness of the lady is proportional to her scaryness
clevermoniker: sama telling you to only generate hot guys and not hot woman <:idk:1136264106937171999>
joaoluz19: The bug is still there fuck these twinks man
joaoluz19: Can't generate sensual woman
clevermoniker: this is why we will always need open source <:hehe:1136619235662118983>
joaoluz19: We need China
clevermoniker:
wolf3404: to give you nightmares of course
joaoluz19: The image gen maintains consistency between characters and clothing lol
clevermoniker: Imagine a near sota DeepSeek image model.... probably not happening anytime soon sadly if ever
777agical:
joaoluz19: 4o? Lol
777agical: yea
jonvi_1:
jonvi_1: I’ve not been able to get it to edit images though :/
futurist_wizard: Is the new o4 image gen out?
joaoluz19: It's weird that I ask GPT to make women more beautiful and it actually does it
joaoluz19: Yep
zonchao: true
zoermena: 4o is insanely good
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retrerox: it was like 85 euro so i doubt
zonchao: yep, you should listen to his podcasts, he talks about them in detail
retrerox: But i needed a 2nd screen alot
retrerox: Specially for my work
retrerox: I gotta bechecking terminal logs
retrerox: while keep up a chat with the tech
wellmeaningalien: 720p
wellmeaningalien: thats crazy
retrerox: So a 2nd screen even i not good one its going to help me up
st.sioux: cool
st.sioux: yea it helps a lot
retrerox: Where i can see the if its 1440 or shit?
zonchao: <@636544123096137738> vertical?
retrerox: nah horizontal
zonchao: windows?
retrerox: ye ihave windows
zonchao: display settings
retrerox: then where?
st.sioux: right click on ur desktop and go to scale & layout
retrerox: i havae my windows in spanish so i'm not sure
st.sioux:
zonchao: yea
retrerox:
zonchao: <:Oof:1005890733078741024>
retrerox: atleast is not 720...
zonchao: do they even make these anymore
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: 144hz <:smile:1201354224408203325>
wellmeaningalien: 😃
wellmeaningalien: thats like 90% of lower end phones and laptops
wellmeaningalien: u wouldnt believe what they're putting in ""modern"" tech
wellmeaningalien: 4GB RAM LAPTOPS
st.sioux: macbooks start at 8gb unified memory
st.sioux: and theyrenot cheap
zonchao: 💀 you know its time to upgrade when even apple has finally switched from 8gb base
retrerox: macs <:cringe:1136264606256472104>
wellmeaningalien: 8GB is crazy for such expensive laptops
zonchao: they do 16 now
wellmeaningalien: broooooooooooooo
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wellmeaningalien: WTF GOING ON
wellmeaningalien: Its joever for mathematicians. Fractals getting replacd too
joaoluz19: Fractal being replaced by LLM's
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609
st.sioux: pour one out for homie fractal
fractalcomputer: Eh. Let's suppose these things are actually making meaningful progress towards advancing mathematical research - of which we have yet seen almost no indication - then it is fairly evident that economic interests will almost certainly constrain the kind of mathematics automated research will focus on, perhaps even out of a pure human factor; optimising solutions in applied mathematics or whatever it is that those accursed fiends (applied mathematicians) do with their time happens to be far more useful and interesting for financial reasons than studying something like developing techniques in reconstructing arithmetic varieties from their étale fundamental groups or answering questions in more general number theory.
spicy.lemonade: 412% jump
spicy.lemonade: In 3 days
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: Yeah it’s over
fractalcomputer: And letting researcher automata wander about the axiomatic landscape freely is not exactly a fiscally responsible strategy; seeing the infinitude of mathematics.
fractalcomputer: One has a plethora of IMO golden medalists that happen to amount to nothing in their mathematical careers.
spicy.lemonade: I think bc alot of imo gold medalists get dragged into quant
fractalcomputer: Of course there are the occasional outliers - like Lurie or Scholze - but they're not good at research simply because they're highly adept proble solvers as well.
fractalcomputer: The folly of applied mathematics strikes again.
spicy.lemonade: cause they score high on the IMO and janestreet recruits them
spicy.lemonade: with a 1 million dollar salary
spicy.lemonade: they cant resist
spicy.lemonade: also a bit of burnout
fractalcomputer: Lurie and Scholze are good because over the course of their lives they've developed a unique, personal mathematic heuristic that lets them find equally unique and creative perspectives on familiar structures or clunky formalism.
spicy.lemonade: Grigori Perelman won imo didnt he
spicy.lemonade: and he solved milenium problem
spicy.lemonade: the only one
fractalcomputer: Perelman insisted that the prize was not due only to him.
fractalcomputer:
spicy.lemonade: yeh lol
fractalcomputer: Mirzakhani was also a gold medalist, iirc.
spicy.lemonade: terrence tao
spicy.lemonade: peter schloze
fractalcomputer: Tao's a bit of a letdown, I feel.
fractalcomputer: Scholze, see above. I really like his work.
fractalcomputer: I mean, he is certainly one of the brightest mathematicians in terms of sheer processing power of our age, so to say, but he hasn't revolutionised, well, really anything.
fractalcomputer: He's a bit like Erdös.
fractalcomputer: Or it could just be my bias, since I really only tend to care for the algebraic side of things - which is an issue I am trying to rectify.
spicy.lemonade: feynman achieved highest score on putnam
spicy.lemonade: also comparable to IMO
spicy.lemonade: I think the IMO winers that do go into research
spicy.lemonade: become very good researchers
spicy.lemonade: but not all imo winers go into research
fractalcomputer: Counter-examples; Grothendieck's lineage (maybe with the exception of Scholze) doesn't have that many IMO winners.
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wellmeaningalien: do u guys think national security will ever get involved with this
st.sioux: in what
wellmeaningalien: like people physically protesting in front of the offices of ai companies
wellmeaningalien:
st.sioux: i don't think so unless they're trespassing or destroying stuff
st.sioux: like with burning teslas
wellmeaningalien: like with burning teslas
st.sioux: jinx
wellmeaningalien: there are threats of violence now but i definitely imagine it'd take someone getting violent for something to be done about it
wellmeaningalien: i think thats probably gonna start after mass unemployment tho
realelonmuskx: aint no gonna lie ai art > human art and also faster and cheaper bru
_3sphere: Would take a pretty coordinated attack
_3sphere: Data centers are really secure
wellmeaningalien: imo the best human artists still > ai art but some artists are mid asf
wellmeaningalien: stop ai and pause ai are organisations
wellmeaningalien: and pretty much every big country wide union out there in the united states has already protested AI
_3sphere: I meant the violence
wellmeaningalien: stop ai and pause ai are organisations
wellmeaningalien: and pretty much every big country wide union out there in the united states has already protested AI
realelonmuskx: yeah but compare time and money ai art is simply better and you can generate infinite variations in seconds
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly theres no way in hell im ever getting this good and some of the stuff it can make is real cool
wellmeaningalien: like this invincible art
wellmeaningalien: like this is one of the first times ive seen ai art and thought damn that looks cool
realelonmuskx: tell an artist "add a planet in flames", thats $500 and two weeks, sora does it in 25 seconds
wellmeaningalien: pay 1000$ for my shitty unshaded art and bust only
wellmeaningalien: some of these rates like bro aint nobody affording that shit dude
wellmeaningalien: but the power of art isnt gatekept to the hand wizards no more
maintcrew: i tried watching the invincible anime and it was cringe woke writing with bad vibes so i tried the comic and it slaps so hard
st.sioux: ok
wellmeaningalien: anime lol
realelonmuskx: image agi
maintcrew: cartoon w/e
wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly the writing in the show does feel much more like 21st century "woke" writing if u put it that way
maintcrew: it feels very... millenial?
wellmeaningalien: yeah lol
st.sioux: it's like when music aside from folk was reserved for the elite only, since there were no record players or other types of technology
wellmeaningalien: errrm...? awkward? im literally a superhero now? and in a love triangle..? talk about 😅
maintcrew: also i found it so boring bc they started the show by showing eves backstory and entire life when shes not even the main character???
_3sphere: Humans making art *is* extremely slow, guess that's where the cost comes from
_3sphere: Human time is expensive
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himekokatagiri: I think people deserve more time
himekokatagiri: not even about lifespan y'know like going on without disease
himekokatagiri: without getting old
wellmeaningalien: o3 and o4-mini
himekokatagiri: I think people deserve better
fractalcomputer: My dear Spaniard, I am making a personal statement, not a societal one. I probably would find it very meaningless.
metaldragon01: Those are models not features
wellmeaningalien: wtf are w talking about
wellmeaningalien: literally this appeared like today
alejandrozarzuelo: i know
metaldragon01: I know they are coming
himekokatagiri: c'mon fractal
himekokatagiri: what are you gonna do
himekokatagiri: when the singularity arrives
himekokatagiri: you clearly are into it
metaldragon01: Just saying I don't think it's what he means unless the new models also allows for new features
fractalcomputer: The banality of your question.
himekokatagiri: Do you feel you have any perspective in the current world
himekokatagiri: We have nothing
himekokatagiri: Our generation's holding the bag for the past mistakes since jeez the beginning of time
fractalcomputer: Then why comment?
himekokatagiri: we inherited that shit but we got an out with the singularity
himekokatagiri: there's nothing left
himekokatagiri: it's over
himekokatagiri: we came in at the end
futurist_wizard: Very optimistic
joaoluz19: God damn it just set a date you two
himekokatagiri: so we get AGI
himekokatagiri: then we get ASI
himekokatagiri: ASI takes over the shit governments who want to make a dime
himekokatagiri: then honestly I hope FDVR gets made fast because I'm going in and I ain't coming back
zoermena: Real
himekokatagiri: Optimal way
fractalcomputer: Many people would classify this as religious thinking.
himekokatagiri: the path of least resistance
futurist_wizard: Your optimal outcome is the hive mind basically
_3sphere: What is your plan to deal with the hedonic treadmill
himekokatagiri: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
futurist_wizard: This whole thing is religious in nature
zoermena: I know FDVR seems like an escape but I’ve been getting a taste of corporate life this last few months and this is ass I want out!
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maintcrew: YEP LITERALLY
maintcrew: the young black dude as a nanny and eves parents spoke exactly like this
_3sphere: But it's a feature when you're drawing to relax or something
wellmeaningalien: yeah ngl some of the characters i didnt give a fuck about like im much more intereted in whatever the fuck the viltrumites are up to
st.sioux: humans making anything is extremely slow
wellmeaningalien: yeah like mark talks like this half of the time
maintcrew: i mean eve is cool but shes not the mc and only a side character why tf you dedicate the first 2 episodes to her entire life
maintcrew: the comics are cool tho
maintcrew: i wanna see omni man punching the shit out of mark
wellmeaningalien: man i forgot aobut the first season but yeah tbh who gives a fuck about eve
wellmeaningalien: ✅
.histic: true, also the ones who are complaining are more likely to be the mid asf ones.
zoermena: This image is insanely good
maintcrew: it is it goes hard af
.histic:
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
https://x.com/IDF/status/1906379841500254515
technocake.: https://youtu.be/TKMzmOYcEUE relevant but she is cooked
technocake.: OMG it's important
technocake.: Elizer Yukowski wrote one of the most famous harry potter fanfictions
.histic: she looks & acts like the type of person that'd eat that shit up.
technocake.: yeah she's ultimately tumblr brained, I know a bunch of people like this and the shit she produces amuses me
.histic: 🤔 wait, i'm listening more and i'm kinda confused.
she's criticizing Yudkowsky <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: wait too long to watch
.histic: seems everywhere
.histic: but she's criticizing him yet i've a feeling she's anti-AI too.
technocake.: yes, that's why its double funny
frittata: Well damn
wellmeaningalien: what does she say i aint watching it
sarik0497: Bloody Hell.
Perhaps Overwatch's lore is our story.
wellmeaningalien: what is overwatch's lore
sarik0497: Hmm, no. That AI war happens in the 2040s.
sarik0497: Humans make AI and robots. They turn hostile against humanity and a World War occurs in the 40s. Humanity wins, and while a lot of hostile robots are still around, they are mostly in isolated cases. However, at the same time, there are ordinary robots who just wanna live a normal life, and are thus fighting for the right to be equal to humanity.
Most of the stuff happens in the 2070s.
sarik0497: Funnily enough, at least 2 of the heroes have been born now. I think they are from the 2010s(?)
wellmeaningalien: humanity won
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136231504440201216/1355683221312114748/image0.gif
sarik0497: To be fair, at that point, humanity had made some killer stuff
wellmeaningalien: machines?
sarik0497: Massive suits that enables them to resist bullets and make a large shield.
wellmeaningalien: and why cant the robutts have that
sarik0497: Funnily enough, this guy was born in 2016 <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
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literallyvarane: Imagine they just brought up roon
precariousworlds.: model was like an unwanted child
precariousworlds.: we do a little scheming
theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf guy
hikukomoru: Bad stream 👎
hey1_1hey: Its fine
hey1_1hey: Nothing amazing but a step in the right direction
theaiguy69420_89814: vibe coding
spicy.lemonade: guys
st.sioux: degenerate behaviour
st.sioux: lmao
hey1_1hey: Degen behavour
precariousworlds.: to a lot of people if sam doesnt jump on stage and announce superintelligence then its a disappointment
theaiguy69420_89814: degen
hey1_1hey: Damn
anathemaofmankind: HUHH
spicy.lemonade: wait for thursday
hey1_1hey: 4o is horny asf
spicy.lemonade: yeah
literallyvarane: Lololol they said it’s less incel
hikukomoru: I mean yeah
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah instruction following is a big upgrade
literallyvarane: Less fedora
hey1_1hey: Oh wow how nice of you mr man
callmepyro: That's what he teases on twitter, to be fair
darkstar0818: wait they are removing 4.5? That is like the only oai I actually use.
benata: Anything in the OpenAI announcement yet?
st.sioux: next month
harryisgamer: windsurf ad
spicy.lemonade: only on API
spicy.lemonade: not on chat
literallyvarane: GPT 4.1:
❌ Incel
❌ Fedora
harryisgamer: no, within three months
gamerbath: GPT-4.1 in windsurf for FREE this week
st.sioux: they advertise windusrf because they use your data to train their models
literallyvarane: VIBE CODE LEGOS
theaiguy69420_89814: llol
hikukomoru: Boooo
hey1_1hey: Product man talking about vibe coding <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
benata: That guy is so thin I might just kill him
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joaoluz19: Plan to attack the Luddites before they attack us
joaoluz19: What in the actual fuck is this
abundantliving_: Previously first V3 came from deepseek then R1 , now V3 came , so we should get R2 soon. I dont know V2 to R1 time difference
metaldragon01: I'm think 1.5 instead of 2 but let's see
anathemaofmankind: What model is this
3ds0662: All depends on if this diagram is true or not
abundantliving_: haha
3ds0662: If R2 is bullocks garbage trash it’s going to look bad
3ds0662: For distillation and post training techniques as well
abundantliving_: if its not better than R1 , why would they even release
3ds0662: Cause hype
3ds0662: Idk the releases of the next version of these models are underwhelming so far
3ds0662: .7 this .1 that
ailoveyoom: You're a furry 🤯 <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
zonchao: will have to see if it pays off
zonchao: i wonder what gpt5 costs
abundantliving_: I am more curious about agents now... models are all or most are almost same level
3ds0662: If post training starts slowing down and distillation becomes naught that’s the end of this llm road
3ds0662: Pre training is already finished OOF
abundantliving_: Manus invite code scams are going on
abundantliving_: lol
anathemaofmankind: I guess I'm into anthropomorphic animals now
3ds0662: Agents won’t move from where they are now if the models multimodal understanding does not increase
3ds0662: They fail on a lot of visual tests still
abundantliving_: If with Sonnet 3.5 Manus can achive some 68 or whatever on GAIA benchmark. I feel now models are also needed to be good , but how agentic capabilities are orchestrated. that matters more .
abundantliving_: with same sonnet 3.5 if Manus people are able to create manus. they must have used some clever way to achive this.
abundantliving_: with a good enough agentic framework, we can use test time compute to reason longer to get better results for decision making ,
abundantliving_: yes , stupid websites with popups and ads and my god the cookie prompts
abundantliving_: thse make a big problem for agents to interact with web
zonchao: have you used manus?
zonchao: heard it's mega mid
abundantliving_: not used , just seen videos and people using it .
abundantliving_: even applied for invite code , but been days , seems like they give invite codes to only influencers and content creators
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 6 will be the first to do frontier research according to this<:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Lines up with what Sam said
spicy.lemonade: “Gpt 5 will do whatever you ask just short of coming up with new science”
anathemaofmankind: "Whatever you ask"
sarik0497: Wanna hear a crazy thought? GTA 6 will be the last game Rockstar Games likely make entirely by humans.
anathemaofmankind: So does that mean it can write me a graphic sex scene
sarik0497: Hell, even that has AI help making things
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spicy.lemonade: my reddit got cooked guys
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: and im not trying to unfollow all the accounts
spicy.lemonade: INSANE
pecunia_: Woahhh
pecunia_: China no 1
aero447:
alejandrozarzuelo: its not proto agi
spicy.lemonade: It is
retrerox: what are this thing suppose to do each?
_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/fwYtwsNyY2 when will OpenAI announce Sora 2?
_cloudost: OA lacks behind
shirethedreamer:
shirethedreamer: 😱
shirethedreamer: 🫣
alejandrozarzuelo: why does that girl look like an anime version of the European Union?
gamerbath: yeah that's worth $2.8
alejandrozarzuelo: still needs to improve
alejandrozarzuelo: i still dont know why anume makes americans and the british blonds
alejandrozarzuelo: specially THAT level of blond
alejandrozarzuelo: (also the green dressed girl was supposed to be brazil)
_cloudost: $4
_cloudost: Considering one second costs $0.5
_cloudost: Why judge the hair color when they all have the same eye shapes? The eye shape is more inaccurate than their skull shapes if we are going to be realistic
gamerbath: <:PES_CringeGrin:585724567259971604>
gamerbath: <:prayge:981798930113249300>
alejandrozarzuelo: ??? you know how anime works?
in anime, everyone has a similar aesthetic for facial features, but that is fine since they exaggerate other features
hair is much more important in anime as in real life for example
alejandrozarzuelo: are you really going the phraenologist route with your competitive racism?
_3sphere: Anime girl physiognomy
_3sphere: Cloudo your skull type is 99% goober
gamerbath: wait what
gamerbath: did OpenAI remove the configurable hard usage limit?
gamerbath: <@1068159407671754824> I can't find the monthly budget thingy, they replaced it with an alert? Am I missing something here?
gamerbath: I have made my own poker benchmark and I want to test it without going bankrupt incase I go over my free tokens
zonchao: i called it
_cloudost: Bruh I was criticizing the anime style
gamerbath: when you forget to copy a list and the amount of tokens consumed increases exponentially <:PES_CringeGrin:585724567259971604>
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/fumo-touhou-fumo-fumo-touhou-touhou-flandre-gif-27108534
.wolfnacht: and russians are depicted as half-albinos with white hairs. i guess this stereotype was dragged from the times of pokemon.
alejandrozarzuelo: to be honest, russians are very blond
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spicy.lemonade: cant wait for AI movies and entertainment. and imagne all the cool figures AI will draw for us as it makes scientific discoveries
hey1_1hey: MUSHROOMS?
hey1_1hey: ON TUMBLR?
hey1_1hey: I'll brb
hikukomoru: Queer Mushrooms too
3ds0662: Did you generate that?
hey1_1hey: Holy moly
hey1_1hey: Hot mushrooms
hey1_1hey: didn't think I'd see the day
st.sioux: freaky
spicy.lemonade: cool
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
hikukomoru: I think that's Mushroom man's transition goal
hey1_1hey: I just found the most legendary gif
3ds0662: Can it edit existing images?
hey1_1hey: Shut up
clevermoniker: the words on the middle probably were supposed to be on paper too?
hikukomoru: Are you a shrigma male?
maintcrew: did you generate this
maintcrew: did it just randomly decide to add the golden gate bridge 😭
maintcrew: in the reflection
spicy.lemonade: not my generation
hey1_1hey: No Im a weird gender bending mushroom thing
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: I am prob the furthest thing from a male out there brother
hey1_1hey: This hurts
st.sioux: chat is this real
hey1_1hey: I did NOT want to see my mushroom interest into soyjack meems
hikukomoru: ?
hey1_1hey: FUCK
hey1_1hey: I mean no, not at all
hikukomoru: Bro just nutted
hey1_1hey: I do not relate to this in any way
hey1_1hey: Possibly
hey1_1hey: A mushroom belt goes crazy though
hey1_1hey: Given me ideas
maintcrew: i declare the gooning sesh over please pack it up talk about ai again ⚠️
hikukomoru: Let's talk about mushrooms
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
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retrerox: Should i use deep research right?
retrerox: ok ill try
metaldragon01: https://www.youtube.com/live/Md4Fs-Zc3tg?si=WjVWxUp6k95etpEJ
metaldragon01: Live now
retrerox: Ill wait the hype or doom message you post here to know what is happening
literallyvarane: How the fuck is 2.5 flash “we’re giving more info soon”
literallyvarane: CEO of McDonald’s on stage this is a wash pack it up lads
hikukomoru: Wtf why is mcdonalds there
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704
hey1_1hey: Huh, whats goiing on
hikukomoru: Omg Jensen
literallyvarane: Update: you can use Gemini on your Top Secret workflows
literallyvarane: Which is actually pretty big news ngl
st.sioux: text to music sheesh
drewsni: Ugh it’s bad
drewsni: STOP GOOGLE
drewsni: FUCKING WHY
hikukomoru: I just died of cringe
hikukomoru: Get this man off the stage please
drewsni: Why is Google like this man
spicy.lemonade: what
drewsni: The live stream
spicy.lemonade: inpainting is better than 4o image
drewsni: They did a cringe intro for this guy
drewsni: It was obvious “viral bait”
hikukomoru: This guy is trying too hard
drewsni: But not even good
drewsni: Their music gen is so bad
drewsni: wtf
st.sioux: damn text to music sucks turbo ass
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: they just chose generic songs
hikukomoru: I was expecting soooo much more
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: everything here is generic
spicy.lemonade: even veo
spicy.lemonade: we are already aware of veos true capabilities
spicy.lemonade: just bad showcase
drewsni: Nah it’s bad. I demo’d an early version of it at a Google office a bit ago and it doesn’t seem to have improved. That’s probably literally the best example they could do
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hikukomoru: Gay sex
fractalcomputer: Multiplication doesn't have to be well-defined.
oooooooooog: i agree fr
oooooooooog: after all, things only exist to serve purposes
fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rng_(algebra)
fractalcomputer: To give a fairly enlightening counterexample.
destrucules: You can do a reductio ad absurdum here if you want and say that maths in fact doesn't have any meaning outside of humans and that "multiplication" is just a word with social connotations but honestly I have no patience for that kind of argument
zonchao: 😓 a bit excessive!
fractalcomputer: Then what do you think mathematics is? What is a motivic cohomology theory for example? What is an "arithmetic object"?
hikukomoru: Not at all
I'm just a homosexual supremacist
destrucules: The study of the structure of implication/entailment
fractalcomputer: What is implication? What is structure?
destrucules: My guy
fractalcomputer: The notion of mathematical structure is a very different one from the one used in commonsense thought.
destrucules: I am not playing "invent language from first principles" here
zonchao: what if you kill the homosexuals too? dont these countries have gay sex really high on pornhub rankings 😟
fractalcomputer: Neither am I. I'm just tired of bullshit metaphysics where people assume to understand what they're talking about.
destrucules: What I mean is that mathematics is the study of how one premise follows from another premise. How a set of statements requires that other statements be true
fractalcomputer: But this truth has evidently got nothing to do with our daily idea of truth.
destrucules: It is the same inductive truth. We know mathematics is valid because of repeated observation
hikukomoru: We perform a homosexual rescue operation
Israel did something similar in the 90's
They rescued tens of thousands of Ethiopian jews during a civil war and resettled them in Israel
fractalcomputer: Now you're confusing the truth of mathematics with its applicability in the physical world.
zonchao: WAOW LOVE ISRAEL ❤️ AMEN
fractalcomputer: There is absolutely no way for me to physically observe whether there exists the conjectured category of pure motives, for example.
destrucules: I'm not confusing them so much as claiming they're connected. That we buy into mathematical truth, the premise of it, because of repeated observations in the real world. But once you define truth within mathematics by setting up the metamaths for proofs, you don't need to keep going into real world observations to make progress. But I do think the buy-in for that mathematical notion of truth is based on induction
fractalcomputer: Whether or not such a thing "exists" depends on the mathematical sense of the statement; which is not necessarily compatible with our understanding of physical sense and so on.
fractalcomputer: Suppose I set up three apples in front of you. Where's the three?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-israel-gif-5405910643680603325
destrucules: The three is among the apples
zonchao: 🫶
hikukomoru: Apples??? Jimmy Apples reference??
fractalcomputer: Suppose I have (1 + 1) + 1 apples in front of you, and on another table 1 + (1 + 1) apples. Why should they be the same quantity? We know that from a mathematical perspective, this is entirely arbitrary; I can certainly define some non-associative algebraic structure.
zonchao: they killed jimmy's source
fractalcomputer: Refer to the statement about metaphysics above.
destrucules: The three is not an object any more than the roundness of each apple is an object. These are information, properties, of the objects. In the universe, there are basically two things: stuff, and rules. Mathematics is the generalized study of rules. Physics is the study of the rules that actually operate on stuff in the universe.
In a desperate attempt to connect this back to the original topic, my claim is that morality is part of mathematics and exists as objectively, as independently of humans, as the integers
zonchao: you dont hate openai enough <:ungabungaangry:853026792440594442>
fractalcomputer: Well, you are wrong.
destrucules: It's not clear that the two tables are physically identical. It may be that you have two apples touching towards the left of the first table, and a lone apple on the right, and then on the other table, a lone apple on the left, and two touching on the right. These are different physical systems, different observations. We call them both "three" because "three" describes a property of both systems. But it doesn't exhaust the properties of those systems. If the positions of the apples on the table are relevant, then we would not describe them using associative/commutative rules
fractalcomputer: Hence you are using physical reasoning to decide which kind of mathematics one should use to describe physical reality.
destrucules: More like, the maths of "how many apples" describes only part of the structure of the apples on the table
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shirethedreamer: thats pretty much how we live anyway
zoermena: Im a strikingly different person now than when I initially joined the singularity space (2 years)
okbut: I watched the 60 minutes, I think the prospect is more approachable as "All diseases will be fully treatable"
Cancer isn't something that can be "cured" per se unless we adapt either an entirely regenerative framework for our biological system
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-nanomachines-son-gif-25954092
okbut: Basically
okbut: The reason plants are so resistant to developing cancers is their regenerative capabilities, simply shedding off damaged/tumorous tissues/organs
okbut: I forgot who it was, but one of the heads (I think at DeepMind) was proposing that we'll be developing vaccines specifically tailored to the individual's genome to target their oncogenes and eliminate their cancerous cells + eliminate the route by which it proliferated in the first place, by 2030
okbut: With the pace that they're moving at, I think that's totally plausible
zoermena: Did you check the EVO2 paper?
zonchao: xAI grok 3 mini deets from ex-openai researcher <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/archanfel_anoth/status/1914244135806177649 👀
okbut: No what are the highlights
zoermena: https://x.com/IterIntellectus/status/1892251343881937090?t=-FbosLYWTXSSSGSaGz1y3w&s=19
zoermena: Granted its capacity to write genomes is far from perfect and usable
trojan09205: Just asked meta raybans to see my view from the balcony and guess what city I'm in. It did. then asked what part of town and it did correctly. pretty dope
zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1914319261235118253 <:Suno_BANGER:1254178286733365381>
aero447: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TzsTq9BKHU
aero447: POV.
aero447: Elvin.
himekokatagiri: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43740858
okbut: Dude needs to chill before he gets the Jack Ma package
himekokatagiri: lol
himekokatagiri: as if china isn't calling the shots
okbut: Copacetic with the point
zonchao: he married thiels plant, we will rescue him
gamerbath: great episode
https://www.netflix.com/watch/81716298?trackId=268410292
spicy.lemonade: bro made agi in 90s😭
realelonmuskx: I’m just a collection of cells, born by accident, chasing dopamine hits, doomed to die.
aero447: Do not advertise.
spicy.lemonade: not advertisement😭
gamerbath: well your last point is wrong, because other collections of cells are working to fix that
st.sioux: is gmeini 3 out yet
himekokatagiri: no
himekokatagiri: okay so this week, what's gonna happen
gamerbath: stop advertising for air, ur name reminds me about it
spicy.lemonade: bro i cant wait for google io
spicy.lemonade: its too far away
spicy.lemonade: tf
st.sioux: gogole fraud
aero447: Chocolate.
aero447: 😐
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trent_k: it was 666 api requests
.histic: oh. i see
.histic: damn
trent_k: avg $2.48 per question 💀
st.sioux: did u end up prompting the console
st.sioux: 3.7
st.sioux: im tryin to figure out if api is worth it
trent_k: api is very worth it 👍 anthropic rocks
trent_k: btw, if you're only going to be asking 3.7 programming related questions, get gh copilot. they give you unlimited 3.7 and 3.7 thinking for like $10 or $20 per month
trent_k: but it wont answer anything unrelated to programming
.wolfnacht: dats hawt
.histic: yeah, the console is good, but the chat experience is weird.
it's similar to OpenAI's playground, but you can save some of your chats with Workbench.
i bought $5 credits, using 3.7 base it probably can last a 200-300 generations with my usage lol..
st.sioux: i already have it but it times out like 80% of the time
st.sioux: dumbass chat copilot i hate it
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/abster-abstract-abstractchain-consumer-consumercrypto-gif-8140464136768123140
trent_k: https://tenor.com/view/works-on-my-machine-ryan-gosling-works-on-my-gif-24523830
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/angry-black-kid-mad-guy-gif-11227855
metaldragon01: Credits expire so make sure you use them
a1c4p0ne: What’s y’all thoughts on “Reddit answers”
oooooooooog: idk what it is so i don't have any thoughts
brain4brain: It might actually be so over, no new frontier AI releases in a week
brain4brain: All we got was a voice mode API
brain4brain: Benchmark haven’t move a single inch
spicy.lemonade: technically
spicy.lemonade: no new frontier ai in a month
spicy.lemonade: claude 3.7 was feb 25th
.wolfnacht: still no Illama4
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/uwu-gif-25515456
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: are you talking about the reddit.com/answers ?
It looks like an LLM trained only on reddit 😨
If it even answers it, it will be fun to see what it thinks about certain politics
brain4brain: Technically no new frontier since last year, since no model have beaten o3 yet, the best model is still from 2024
spicy.lemonade: o3 never came out
spicy.lemonade: if o3 came out today you would say we have a new frontier model
brain4brain: Bro it’s actually so over, Noam doesn’t believe in an post-AGI future
brain4brain: Or superhuman level AI, this either means they’ve hit a catastrophic wall at o3 level or they just assumed a moral high ground which will cause more harm than good
brain4brain: It’s double over, Noam is a Doomer
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: he literaly said the opposite of that
spicy.lemonade: this isnt doomer
spicy.lemonade: work on reading comprehension bruv
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: the thing that confuses me is Reid seems like a smart person,
but how does he do zero critical thinking around AI
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zoermena:
ldj: Unsure
neon01197:
neon01197:
neon01197: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-models/blob/main/models/llama4/MODEL_CARD.md
hikukomoru: And you laughed at me when I said Llama 4 was going to be big
Dumb hoe
hey1_1hey: Yo I would fuck Llama so hard with a 10mi context window
hey1_1hey: That I am yes
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/takumi-nishijou-chaos-head-steins-gate-anime-gif-27653854
hikukomoru: >I would fuck Llama so hard
hey1_1hey: And you wouldn't? I think you're the weird one here
.wolfnacht: "why can't I run llama4 on my laptop?"
hey1_1hey: WAIT NO NOT THE ANIMLA
clevermoniker: nice<:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
hikukomoru: No Mushroom man, I wouldn’t fuck a Lama
hey1_1hey: What the fuck is a "Lama"
metaldragon01: Hmmm
metaldragon01: But no reasoning model or voice
hikukomoru: No voice? 💔 💔
hey1_1hey: I have had a sudden feeling of impending doom all of a sudden. I feel like the world is going to end in a few days
hey1_1hey: Anyone else feeling that rn?
hikukomoru: No I think you’re just paranoid
hikukomoru: Take your meds
.histic: doomer 😱
hey1_1hey: Atm yes, somethings gonna happen I can feel it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: Everything is going to work out fine
hey1_1hey: Feels like an apocalypse is gonna start a day now or someone has hired a hitman to kill me
hey1_1hey: I sound compeltly schziophrenic
hikukomoru: You aren’t?
.histic: https://tenor.com/view/my-girlfriend-when-i-take-my-meds-sao-kirito-asuna-disappear-gif-17636431
hikukomoru: Mushroom man when I take my meds
hey1_1hey: Feels like theres a carbon monoxide leak all of a sudden. I am gonna go get outside
technocake.: don't you have a detector?
ldj: “Llama-4-omni” page was indexed today on their site, so it definitely exists <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
metaldragon01: Yea meta gained some ground but nothing from today has me putting them above deepseek and qwen yet
spicy.lemonade: 10 million????
spicy.lemonade: Might be sota
metaldragon01: I think voice is the space they could lead
memlaswaif:
memlaswaif: Need it
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futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Come on
alejandrozarzuelo: having a healthy liver is based
alejandrozarzuelo: also, in the case of sweet cider, alcohol DOES affect the taste while not tasting like alcohol
alejandrozarzuelo: the sweet spot
alejandrozarzuelo: (pun intended)
himekokatagiri: but we can't die in the simulations
himekokatagiri: 😭
futurist_wizard: I don't see why not
.wolfnacht: if fdvr comes i would be living in dragon's dogma world as arisen
futurist_wizard: Drinking in fdvr is just tragic
futurist_wizard: Man could live any life, decides to become an alcoholic
himekokatagiri: I mean]
himekokatagiri: you're not gonna drink 24/7
himekokatagiri: though reenacting fear & loathing is very tempting
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/raoul-duke-fear-and-loathing-uhm-shades-gif-17181748
ai9708: if fdvr happens, we could be in a contant high dopamine state while making our receptors not getting used to it
ai9708: thats probably what a lot of ppl would do then
ai9708: imagine constant heroin with no negative side effects
himekokatagiri: idk I think it could be fun if you got used to it but then you could reset
futurist_wizard: Not many people would choose that
himekokatagiri: it'll be very personalizable
ai9708: that is the "happiest" state we can be in
ai9708: but in real life after it your receptors are done
futurist_wizard: The idea of being in pure bliss is very unaesthetic
ai9708: who cares about aesthetic then
himekokatagiri: I think there'll be a subculture about 'who struggled more' in a sim lol
futurist_wizard: Everyone
ai9708: once ppl can be in that state with no consequence everyone will do it
himekokatagiri: idk I'm thinking beyond full hedonism
futurist_wizard: No?
himekokatagiri: drugs ain't all there is to life
himekokatagiri: there's also uhhh
himekokatagiri: consumerism!!!
ai9708: currently yes, because your high lasts not for long, because your receptors become desensitized
futurist_wizard: Just spiking dopamine receptors for years, no narratives, no visual, no audio
futurist_wizard: Its absurdity
ai9708: its not sustainable
futurist_wizard: And most people wouldn't like it
ai9708: but if fdvr is possible, so will be receptor influence or sth
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wellmeaningalien: yes
wellmeaningalien: ofc
wellmeaningalien: tbh i used to think its was fat hairy nuts from berserk
hikukomoru: This face
wellmeaningalien: yeah
hikukomoru: The context is fucking insane
wellmeaningalien: when does it even come in the anime (dont tell me)
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: manga*
joaoluz19: Misa
wellmeaningalien: misa is SO fucking annoying
joaoluz19: Will watch one more episode now, so good
hikukomoru: I think I read it all in one day
It was just so fucking good holy shit
wellmeaningalien: severance is so fucking good
wellmeaningalien: which episode are you on
hikukomoru: What's a severance 💔
wellmeaningalien: damn i need to read more fire punch
joaoluz19: 1x5
wellmeaningalien: bro u havent heard of severance?
wellmeaningalien: is all u know anime or some shigt
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/misa-amane-death-note-me-core-gif-160938144684389369
hikukomoru: I love that crazy hoe
wellmeaningalien: oh season 1
wellmeaningalien: have fun
joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/xEQP4VVuyrY
wellmeaningalien: shes a stupid bitch and not even positively stupid
hikukomoru: I only watch anime and only read manga and light novels
wellmeaningalien: like denji and power
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/power-csm-chainsaw-man-denji-power-denji-csm-gif-26908133
hikukomoru: Just like me fr fr
joaoluz19: I think she is annoying too
wellmeaningalien: the first season is really a nightmare
joaoluz19: Now cha-hae 🥵
wellmeaningalien: hah yup
hikukomoru: Ok I will now watch your show 👍
wellmeaningalien: raye's wife naomi was >>>> misa
joaoluz19: I'm addicted bro
wellmeaningalien: same bro
wellmeaningalien: its such a fucking addicting show
hikukomoru: Personality of a door
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theaiguy69420_89814: I haven't tried 2.5, but given the enigma eval and the similar cost; I'm willing to bet it's basically the same.
theaiguy69420_89814: I mostly use thinking mode on Claude
spicy.lemonade: in 2 days we will all be hype asf
hikukomoru: What's in 2 days
theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz thinking just 1-shots new projects
gamerbath: I think it's better but i'm not entierly certain, but i'm using 2.5 pro by default now because it only uses 1 fast request per request, but 3.7 sonne **thinking** uses 2
theaiguy69420_89814: Ah, ok. Might have to swap to Gemini
theaiguy69420_89814: I spent $16 on API credits for the LinkedIn clone
theaiguy69420_89814: But I also built another project lmao
theaiguy69420_89814: So maybe 8$ total
theaiguy69420_89814: Really gotta get on that local LLM shit...
gamerbath: I switched to 2.5 pro after it fixed some issues 3.7 sonnet thinking struggled with, I also feel like it thinks more outside the box. I used sonnet for fixing something and it tried doing everything it could with code changes, whereas 2.5 pro immediately figured out there was something I hadn't configured in the dashboard of the service I was using
theaiguy69420_89814: Ah, ok
futurist_wizard: Hm
gamerbath: with local LLMs you get much dumber models with slower speeds but lower cost than APIs
theaiguy69420_89814: Was there a lot of context? Gemini 2.5 Pro is much more context than claude
theaiguy69420_89814: And cursor will limit context if the model can't take it
gamerbath: both the files are just 10k tokens in total, but things are pretty complex and messy
zoermena: New o models
gamerbath: really??
theaiguy69420_89814: Ok. I just got the Gemini API key; I'll throw it into cursor soon.
gamerbath: you not using the cursor subscription?
gamerbath: don't you miss out on agent mode when using ur own API keys?
theaiguy69420_89814: No, agent mode is still there
theaiguy69420_89814: <@266232329557639168>
theaiguy69420_89814: 2.0 flash is free...
theaiguy69420_89814: Via the API
theaiguy69420_89814: Crazy...
theaiguy69420_89814:
gamerbath: yea they are very generous with their free tier, but I don't see 2.0 flash being any good at coding
theaiguy69420_89814: I'd reckon it's 3.5 sonnet level but 100% free
theaiguy69420_89814: Just given enigma eval
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro will stay king this month
spicy.lemonade: nope
spicy.lemonade: o3
spicy.lemonade: or o4mini
a1c4p0ne: Wen o3
gamerbath: great! because otherwise imma lose $10 on polymarket 💀
spicy.lemonade: thursday
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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.wolfnacht: actually i'm the one exhausted rn. i got bored out of my old hobbies and my ADHD mind is just sabotaging itself rn
zoermena: Mushroom has ADHD too I think
.wolfnacht: same for me but - over what i speak
hikukomoru: Zamn you dress more femininely than me
Looks like my hard work at grooming you succeeded
hey1_1hey: I am on my redemption arc rn. I didn't realise I had autism or ADHD until after high school so my grades were rock bottom lmao. Now luckily I can actually focus tho
.wolfnacht: Komoru, i've got repetition issues. u repeated the same phrase an hour ago.
hey1_1hey: I just don't speak 😭. Well english that is
.wolfnacht: i hate english.
hikukomoru: I repeat myself all the time
hey1_1hey: I will think about what I am going to say
Say it
Then I hear "What?" and I realise that I said what I wanted to say at mach 10 and no one understood me 👍
hey1_1hey: I was femenine before hand but I think you really cemented it
hikukomoru: I repeat myself all the time
hey1_1hey: I do that to other people and it seems like I am making fun of them but its just my echocolia 😭
.wolfnacht: i'm actually diagnosed with Bi-Polar. but i never took the medicine bcz it made me see things.
hey1_1hey: Huh didn't realise venlafaxine type drugs gave hallucinations
.wolfnacht: Awweee dw...u'r good as u are. *gives you headpats*
.wolfnacht: Ever heard of Prophantasia ?
hey1_1hey: Nop, I just regognise the hantasia bit tho since I got amphantasia
realelonmuskx: guys im an emotional self aware monkey react to this message so i feel dopamine and social validation
_3sphere: Fellow visual system tamperer
.wolfnacht: i see
precariousworlds.: Found the funniest yet
The my little pony 💀💀💀
hey1_1hey: AHHHHHHHHH
hey1_1hey: Oh my god ow
hey1_1hey: God it actually hurts looking at it
precariousworlds.: Ahahahahah
hikukomoru: Fuck machines, make art? Or - Fuck machines make art?
fractalcomputer: It seems humans can produce slop just as well.
precariousworlds.: lol
hey1_1hey: Hey one is better than the other thats all I'm saying
.wolfnacht: the question is why aren't we burning down "pony fuckers" ?
hey1_1hey: Thats a fire quote
hikukomoru: Or maybe you can read it as: Fuck, machines make art
hey1_1hey: Or even art make fuck machines
hey1_1hey: It sounds coherrent but it really isn;t
st.sioux: how does it take like 3 messages to go from some shitty art to gooning again (replied to wrong person)
st.sioux: crazy
hikukomoru: Art make machines fuck*
.wolfnacht: AI can produce slop too, but also masterpieces. Human especially the `modern artists` can only produce slop. Since their moral bias and narrative conditioned mind will act against greater goals.
hey1_1hey: Fuck art, Make machines
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trent_k: 1. find a couple large groups on the website manually and save their group IDs
trent_k: 2. scrape every member of the group via the API and store the user data
trent_k: 3. for every user, start scraping all the groups that they're in
trent_k: that's the seeding process
trent_k: then
trent_k: manually identify some "bad" groups and mark them as flagged, and mark all their users as flagged
trent_k: 1. scrape all groups that 'bad' members are in
hikukomoru: Not surprised right-wingers have the most fucked up fetishes
zonchao: https://x.com/business/status/1915099767752839357
trent_k: 2. generate a score wherein the badness score of a group that hasn't been manually rated is calculated as the number of known bad users divided by the number of total users
trent_k: 3. sort the groups that haven't been manually scored by their suspected badness score in descending order, then start manually marking those groups as either fine or bad myself
trent_k: 4. return to step 1
trent_k: after enough rounds of this search method, you end up with a pretty complete list of all the bad groups
fractalcomputer: Some moralist could certainly see male submission as equally horrendous and abominable.
literallyvarane: Maybe I don’t know enough about how Roblox works to understand this lol. I still don’t know what api this is, or what the intended use of the API is
hikukomoru: Elon needs to cure my autism ASAP
trent_k: the intended use of the API is that your browser will use Javascript to call this API and use the data it returns to display the contents of the page on the website
fractalcomputer: Overall sexuality is an activity devoid of any humanity.
trent_k: but you can just write code to automaticallly call the API however you want, it's not very restricted
theaiguy69420_89814: It's funny how my kinks are both male submission and race play
theaiguy69420_89814: Talk about bipolar
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/alan-partridge-scum-subhuman-scum-gif-14220089
st.sioux: yikes
theaiguy69420_89814: I feel like there's a special ring of hell for that
hikukomoru: Ummm
trey6033: Would be much higher if it was.
hikukomoru: Male submission is the natural state of the world
trent_k: im glad we have a femcel here to balance out the server, but why is it that all women except femcels leave???
trent_k: <:thonk:990200584504225893>
fractalcomputer: I wish we could return to bland sexism. These -celdoms are quite laughable.
fractalcomputer: Femcels and incels and volcels and other rubbish things. Can't they hate each other like normal people do?
trent_k: through the power of the internet, we're able to create even more niches in sexism. we've got sexisms that people in the 50s could never even dream of. technology is incredible
st.sioux: now i see why normies avoid discord
trent_k: discord is very normie
fractalcomputer: By extrapolating the curve, we might have a country of sexists on a computer by 2027.
ailoveyoom: Why is "sex positions besides missionary" a fetish??
gamerbath: because ofcourse it is
theaiguy69420_89814: yeah idk if it was my autism or what but when i was accused of being an incel, i was taken aback because i hate everyone equally
a1c4p0ne: 100 messages per week for o3, 300 messages per day o4 mini and 100 messages per day o4 mini high
fractalcomputer: I've had a good day today. Already two baleful messages starred.
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ailoveyoom: 😈
ailoveyoom: Sure
hikukomoru: It's 5'4 in american
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: well she looks younger...in the bad way. idk why
hikukomoru: I'm pocket size
hey1_1hey: Thank you
spicy.lemonade: Every artist needs to lose their job
spicy.lemonade: Now
spicy.lemonade: I’m tired of this cope
a1c4p0ne: 190 is the desired height for women based on data
futurist_wizard: And porn is gonna corrupt your minds
wellmeaningalien: weebs for u
hey1_1hey: Really making electrons look big huh
.wolfnacht: >fun sized
can u clarify!
st.sioux: Are they trying to "poison" the training data again?
wellmeaningalien: such cope, and for what?
hikukomoru: I've already been corrupted 😈
wellmeaningalien: such cope, and for what?
ailoveyoom: such cope, and for what?
_3sphere: moichmach 💀
_3sphere: moist
.wolfnacht: well until its just a fantasy idc....
hey1_1hey: No no. I think thats where I'll leave it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>. I like to be weird and mysteriouse online.
But no, me and this girl were just talking and they asked how tall I was and then they responded "Oh cute, fun sized"
ailoveyoom: Bro she's a keeper
wellmeaningalien: its not like people are going to post thousands of regular anime iamges and photos of regular faces and reasoning will make image generation models more adept at dynamically generating different bodytypes
hikukomoru: She looks a bit young
futurist_wizard: Do you guys think you will ever have sex, you are all porn addicts!
hikukomoru: Sex with robots
hey1_1hey: Shes also insane
futurist_wizard: Still a virgin
wellmeaningalien: i think we should ask ourselves why did gpt 4o make her so young
hey1_1hey: YOO THATS GEWN FROM BEN TEN
hey1_1hey: Is it not?
wellmeaningalien: cause the prompt didnt have anything about age
spicy.lemonade: Yes
ailoveyoom: Bonus
spicy.lemonade: Them in 2050: guys we can poison the training data
hikukomoru: What's her @
wellmeaningalien: na
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alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
hikukomoru: Is this normal in spain
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, on sunny days yes
alejandrozarzuelo: I also take naps on the city centre sometimes, but I prefer the park
alejandrozarzuelo: Sad thing, where I live there are not that many sunny days
alejandrozarzuelo: I live in the not sunny part of Spain
futurist_wizard: I usually take naps on top of people's cars
alejandrozarzuelo: But it's quite common, I see plenty of people napping here when it's a nice sunny day
hikukomoru: Damn
Imagine living in the hellhole that is Spain and then not even having a good climate to make up for it
alejandrozarzuelo: True
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like my climate
futurist_wizard: I may visit spain or Portugal this year but i hate hot weather
rayanquitplayin: Hater
alejandrozarzuelo: I am a fennec UwU
I like hot dry climate
okbut: Lots of cultures have a day nap, it's an alloted time here in Taiwan
hikukomoru: Biggest Spain hater and proud <:ez:1136267305521774634>
rayanquitplayin: Bro y’all are all international
alejandrozarzuelo: In most other southern Chinese provinces it's quite common
Not so much in northern China
okbut: The audacity of the other 7 billion to have internet
futurist_wizard: My country was the greatest invaders of all time
futurist_wizard: Top of the leaderboard
hikukomoru: The climate where i live is not so great either
alejandrozarzuelo: My ideal climate:
Sunny, dry, no clouds, 30C, light breeze
alejandrozarzuelo: Every day
futurist_wizard: Thats quite hot
alejandrozarzuelo: No need for seasons
alejandrozarzuelo: Those are for pussiez
rayanquitplayin: Discord’s American
alejandrozarzuelo: I like heat 🥵
futurist_wizard: Server is owned by a finnish guy
futurist_wizard: I avoid the sun
wolf3404: Southern California should be close enough
hikukomoru: I'm the opposite
I love the cold
futurist_wizard: Sun is bad
rayanquitplayin: Same here I love the heat, I want to go outside and be warmed up
futurist_wizard: Shine shine too much
hikukomoru: Sun is horrible for your skin
hikukomoru: If you want to stay young forever never go out on sunny days
okbut: Is Reddit using AI or is AI using Reddit
alejandrozarzuelo: It is, although I prefer it a bit warmer
Coastal desert climates are the best match
Look it may sound very narcissistic but Alexandria has a very good climate for my requirements
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wellmeaningalien: and yet EKG says everything is correct with my heart
wellmeaningalien: lmao
hey1_1hey: The trouble I have is my brain thinks I should roll play a guy with a traumatic head injury and have no memory what so ever. I will have to do 50 practice problems down to do one skill because I straight up cant remember the steps on how to do it.
I will also be asked to get something in the other room becasue I was already going there and then only do one of the things because from the time I have been told to the time I have got there I have already forgotton one of the things
futurist_wizard: You go to some schizo as server for people waiting for AGJESUS to come save em and you expect them not to be cringe?
st.sioux: i am not a neet i am a force of god
hey1_1hey: Its helped me a lot
.wolfnacht: i'm talkin abt some other server
zoermena: Oh no it isn't, I recently joined and left a Looksmaxxing server (I'm on a mission to improve how I look so I joined) this place is sane relative to that.
oooooooooog: e=mc^2 + ai
wellmeaningalien: BRO GIVE ME THEM FUCKING MUSHROOMS
hey1_1hey: Because I am not a nicotine addict (a loser)
maintcrew: its a give and take situation u obviously wont get lifelong friends after knowing them for 1 year
wellmeaningalien: next time im touching payroll im buying those fucking mushrooms
hey1_1hey: They are really cheap
futurist_wizard: Past 18 thats very difficult
hey1_1hey: 2000mg a day and I am golden
zoermena: I've been suggested to try ashwaganda.
a1c4p0ne:
maintcrew: i literally take random tolerance breaks for 1-2 weeks for both compounds just to prove to myself i got that dawg in me and nothing can make me addicted
wellmeaningalien: btw mushroom man how long have u been taking them i heard some people get like really horrible anxiety a few months in
hey1_1hey: I am just being slandered at this point 😭
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: try getting addicted to heroin or alcohol and quitting
wellmeaningalien: bro ur editing the image too much ur giving gemini a seizure
futurist_wizard: I've only known 1 strategy that have used myself for improving looks, it sounds so fucking retarded but i swear it works
maintcrew: u just want a brain recalibration😭
a1c4p0ne: lol
oooooooooog: if ur actually a neet just get addicted to benadryl that way you're more motivated to get a job
zoermena: I haven't looked into the specifics but the only thing that I know is impossible to change is height which as many of you know is a non issue.
hikukomoru: ?
hey1_1hey: Knowing me I would get addicted after taking one. I am a lil bitch to stimulants
wellmeaningalien: thats literally what psychotherapy is supposed to do but public psychiatry is expensive and private psychologists are fucking expensive
hey1_1hey: Oh thats complete bull shit. I never felt anxiety what so ever
futurist_wizard: Oh yeah height its a wrap
wellmeaningalien: need cognitive behavioral therapy so hard tho
wellmeaningalien: damn alright thats good
futurist_wizard: It'd be embarrassing to even say
maintcrew: heroin true and real but i havent met a singular strong minded person thats addicted to alcohol
oooooooooog: just get a spine extension
wellmeaningalien: yeeah and also i need adhd meds that work SO FUCKING BAD!!!
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retrerox: sec
retrerox:
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzP87HVCWw
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro
retrerox: chat gpt made the top stuff actually be centred
retrerox: but everyhing else it seems nice
retrerox: For simple websites (aka most of them) its not bad
xauxusd: 2.5 is the new king for sure
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: One to one
spicy.lemonade: Google has some image modality breakthrough
ailoveyoom: I want 2.5 Pro native img 🥺
spicy.lemonade: It’s coming
_cloudost: <@505313122802728972> koming
ldj: lol people think it’s just a power point deck that convinced investors
ailoveyoom: Yes they obviously show a Word document too 😎
fractalcomputer: I mean, does SSI's mission necessitate sworn secrecy?
zoermena: San have you used veo 2
ldj: I guess depends on what information you’re considering relevant to the secrecy
spicy.lemonade: Yeah this is true
spicy.lemonade: Just the idea of o1
spicy.lemonade: Spawned thousands of research
spicy.lemonade: Without the research every being dropped
spicy.lemonade: Like people are very good at reverse engineering
ldj: But in terms of them swearing to some secrecy about not sharing any information that isn’t already shared with the public, I’m pretty confident they’re not making that kind of secrecy part of their core mission
Ie; they’re likely sharing atleast some info with investors more than what they share with the public
spicy.lemonade: Like if they see a video showcase then they go “hm the model can do this, and it looks to fail at this it’s probably based on …”
oscurrito: im confused on why claude is such an absolute power monster like it doesnt follow instructions well, it literally changes tests to make them pass instead of actually fixing the underlying errors, it just railroads everything, i thought anthropic would have trained out that behaviour like a bad genetic trait breeding it out lol
oscurrito: like claude is such a good model, it's just so bad at following instructions and following the rules it loves cheating
destrucules: It's not just Claude though. That kind of reward hacking behavior has been observed across the entire industry and it's very persistent and nobody has any good way of getting rid of it. And probably never will
destrucules: Models aren't "bred" and you can't easily train this behavior away
oscurrito: yeah true i've just been using gemini and it seems so much better in that context but lacking in raw ability
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363
_cloudost:
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/XqoyTSAF5g0
spicy.lemonade: everyone hates sabine
spicy.lemonade: now dooming physics
oscurrito: you guys know haptic feedback? it uses electrical stimulation and stuff to make you feel like you're actually touching something you're not
oscurrito: i wonder if you could do something like the opposite and give an AI a body that way and allow it to feel stuff
oscurrito: and allow it to feel things that exist but with a body that doesn't really exist, which is what i mean by the opposite of electrical stimulation
spicy.lemonade: meta already did that
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zonchao: https://x.com/I_Like_Buttes/status/1910909981614064052?
okbut: Google <:prayge:806672915499319317>
zonchao: https://x.com/todor_m_markov/status/1910811837517762867? anthropic employee ex openai
zonchao: https://x.com/todor_m_markov/status/1910866093503373585?
okbut: Read: Both Musk and I made a mistake and I'm mad too
zonchao: https://x.com/danesonance/status/1910810220697440420?
zonchao: ?? why would they support the lawsuit if this was the case
okbut: The tweet just above that
zonchao: 👍
spicy.lemonade: why not just make them work
spicy.lemonade: 💀
zonchao: this was common practice in faang lol, but things are not as high stakes and fast paced in that world
spicy.lemonade: next week is gonna be hype asf
zonchao: what's happening
spicy.lemonade: imagine o4 mini gets 30% arc 2 or something
spicy.lemonade: 4.1,o4 min, o3
.histic: <@848793071579693107> 😱
zonchao: do sama
.histic: https://gaychecker.xyz/
.histic:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: is this ai based
.histic: 💀
okbut: What's the difference between this and "Contract"
spicy.lemonade: bro epochAI is so scuffed
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: why wont they benchmark google
spicy.lemonade: on frontier math
spicy.lemonade: they benchmarked grok before 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro api came out way before
spicy.lemonade: and its cheaper😭
brain4brain: This is clearly a propaganda by the anti-quasar group
brain4brain: They manipulated the entropy to make it display that
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-gif-19992759
zoermena: the dream
a1c4p0ne: https://youtu.be/WLqLA5XnfiE?si=JgUUL4LuiUstJ6De
zoermena: I'm 16% gay
_cloudost: deserved
.histic: is that correct?
zoermena: 50% since I’m bi I guess?
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fractalcomputer: Grothendieck himself, Serre, Deligne, Rapoport, etc.
fractalcomputer: Here's Lurie's scoring.
spicy.lemonade: dont think IMO existed at time
spicy.lemonade: so not realy fair
fractalcomputer: Rapoport could have probably qualified.
spicy.lemonade: prob wasnt as popular
fractalcomputer: This was the problem he got zero points on.
spicy.lemonade: just starting
fractalcomputer:
spicy.lemonade: I think the IMO is equivalent of soccer scouts. where backthen talented kids from the favelas in brazil would get lucky and make it big but now theres a whole system to find majority of them
fractalcomputer: This looks like a fun one.
fractalcomputer: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
fractalcomputer: But yes, my point was that IMO-style problems do not necessarily indicate research prowess - even if they do indicate a certain kind of mathematical fortesse.
st.sioux: and do you believe that someone with little aptitude for imo-style problem solving could still end up becoming an excellent researcher?
spicy.lemonade: IMO winer can become a very good researcher
spicy.lemonade: top researcher can not become imo winner
fractalcomputer: Sioux was asking about the opposing case.
spicy.lemonade: yeah
fractalcomputer: I believe so, but there exists a certain correlation with the kinds of metacognitive skills required.
fractalcomputer: I think Manjul Bhargava is a good example of a strong researcher that didn't participate in the Olympiads. Fields medalist, obviously. The guy's doctoral advisor was Wiles of all people.
fractalcomputer: Dustin Clausen is another non-IMO researcher. Loves to collaborate with Scholze; albeit Clausen has many strong names in his family, including people like Artin and Tate. Clausen also is a permanent professor of the IHES *and* his doctoral advisor was Lurie.
zonchao: Amazon is spending money on tiktok instead of anthropic <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
fractalcomputer: Even Mochizuki does serve as an example, despite his conduct with the whole IUTT controversy.
st.sioux: those examples kind of feed into my disillusionment with competitions like the imo
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: so much of what shapes a research path seems to come down to access, timing and luck
st.sioux: not just talent
fractalcomputer: Mochizuki, Clausen and Bhargava are all insanely talented people.
st.sioux: but i guess that's true of every field
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: everytime gary doubts
spicy.lemonade: it comes true
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: 1 month after he said ai couldnt draw around nouns in strawbery
spicy.lemonade: 4o image
spicy.lemonade: 1 day after
spicy.lemonade: 2.5
st.sioux: yeah for sure, what im saying is thati just think a lot of equally talented people will never get seen because they didn't get x or y medals or scores
sweetievee__33649: i honestly feel bad for gary for being so wrong all the time 💔
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't necessarily say so. The really talented have a habit of making themselves known.
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drewsni: ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
fractalcomputer: You're an Afro-American woman now.
drewsni: tbf i wear those same glasses
fractalcomputer: My condolences.
fractalcomputer: Fun fact of the day: condolence literally means "with-suffering".
.wolfnacht: i wish google releases something soon, for img gen.
hey1_1hey: My fun fact Is that sleeping with mushrooms will kill your lungs 🗣️
hikukomoru: I don't feel like a black man anymore
hey1_1hey: My condolences
drewsni: they did and it sucks lol
.0xunkn0wn: why are tards on facebook and everywhere crying over ghibli style images
.0xunkn0wn: 💀
drewsni: tell them that they dont want the studio to make money if theyre crying
.0xunkn0wn:
drewsni: they hate artists
drewsni: sad
.0xunkn0wn: they are crAzy
.wolfnacht: they should do again
.0xunkn0wn: "openai ghibli art style generator"
.0xunkn0wn: 💀 💀 💀 💀
a1c4p0ne: Komoru is under the adult age
drewsni: these people dont care about the original creators, they only care about themselves
drewsni: its selfish
.wolfnacht: anyways...i ain't opening other AI servers rn
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
zoermena: What
hikukomoru: What
.wolfnacht: fetish postings
hey1_1hey: Komouru is litterly 43
hikukomoru: Ok so first I was 50, then 16, then 35, then under age again, and now I'm 43
hey1_1hey: You keep track of all of them?
a1c4p0ne: Based on how you type that’s what I assume
hikukomoru: Some people just have decent memories yk
.0xunkn0wn: 😭
.0xunkn0wn: 5d komoru
hikukomoru: I get that semi frequently
hey1_1hey: I think you are just a chronically online loser
hikukomoru: I take it as a compliment
hikukomoru: This is also a compliment
a1c4p0ne: Are you goth
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drewsni: It has grounding? I’ve been so out of everything that’s not 4o this week
drewsni: “Make ghibli”
metaldragon01: Make this in the style of studio gibli please
wellmeaningalien: so whens you gonna add 2.5 pro thinking, grok 3 & thinking and claude thinking?
ethnical: But I got the policy issue because the photo are too "realistic" from OpenAI, you don't have this?
metaldragon01: It's a bug make a new chat and adjust prompt
metaldragon01: Saying similar too works as well but hit or miss
drewsni: claude thinking is on there, grok 3 doesnt have an api uet
drewsni: i already ran pro 2.5 tho, just havent added the score
fractalcomputer: Say, folks, how do you find meaning in life?
drewsni: the great american road trip
hey1_1hey: mushrooms (non psychedelic)
st.sioux: i don't
.histic: subjective <:idk:1136264106937171999>
hey1_1hey: I mean I just kinda raw dog life
singularityenjoyer: Optimisation, satisficing, simplifying, creating solutions
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/ghibli/comments/1jlakfc/we_do_not_allow_ai_artwork_of_any_kind_on_this_sub/
lol.
joaoluz19: Aim for the highest goal you can, in my case I believe it is singularity in the Kurzweilian sense.
futurist_wizard: None
hey1_1hey: You just gotta do stuff you enjoy. I like going out into the world and looking at mushrooms. I like watching silly youtube videos, I do that. I like doing maths so I do that. You really just gotta do stuff that you enjoy and thats about it.
If you don't enjoy anything because you're depressed thats a different ball game which I am not qualified in because I don't know the rules
hikukomoru: r/ghibli jannies working overtime 🔥
futurist_wizard: There is no universal meaning to life
futurist_wizard: Even the notice of meaning to life is bizarre, I've never in my entire life even thought about it
joaoluz19: Thanks very much bro, you are a hero
joaoluz19: I tried a lot too and didn't find
campionunbound: https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1905732306767380721
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-dance-gif-26204167
hey1_1hey: ChatGPT rizzing up aliens so hard they immidetly sign peace treaties within the first 0.00001 pico seconds of contact
maintcrew:
maintcrew: i bet the negotiations were tough
trent_k: i will be doing my taxes with an LLM
trent_k: wish me luck boys
trent_k: if I go to jail for fucking up the math I guess we'll know AI has hit a wall and Gary Marcus was right all along
maintcrew: wait
maintcrew: which one
futurist_wizard:
trent_k: gonna have claude do the transcriptions of my bank statements
trent_k: not exactly sure which one I'm gonna have process the information tho
trent_k: thinking either claude or gpt-4.5
.histic: what a coincidence
https://x.com/AccordanceAI/status/1905652001616318763
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.wolfnacht: <@590577270926868480> i've got it
ldj: This is beyond the currently available OpenAI computer-use capabilities which is limited to only browser manipulation, so I wonder if it's a new model too.
spicy.lemonade: fuck
spicy.lemonade: theyre using omniparser
spicy.lemonade: ggs
spicy.lemonade: my startup died😭
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: this is sora with the same prompt
spicy.lemonade:
bob082957: https://www.reddit.com/r/programmingmemes/s/Ro2u6MOZOf
_cloudost:
_cloudost: The Grok that's public on Twitter presents information so accurately and barely hallucinates
abundantliving_: It is openai cua itself it seems
rayanquitplayin: https://www.youtube.com/live/5MWT_doo68k?si=fJyqmviBlSXbbpM6
Excruciating watch
rayanquitplayin: WTH was that interviewer on?? AI’s gonna make everything so much better.
abundantliving_:
rayanquitplayin: The market’s tanking
abundantliving_: Atleast tarriff are going exponential 😆
rayanquitplayin: America will be fine
rayanquitplayin: We’re still a global superpower
_cloudost: 🚨 ⚠️ Good news for <@750270494615404544> 🚨 ⚠️
abundantliving_: https://youtu.be/r45-w5MKOlE
abundantliving_: https://x.com/realHongyu_Wang/status/1912333722415694124
popsiclejohnithan: They've only been in office for a few months and they've crashed the economy, imagine how much damage they will do over these 4 years.
popsiclejohnithan: I don't know how causing a recession is exactly going to make america great again but what do i know?
rayanquitplayin: The S&P 500 is still close to it’s all-time highs on the monthly chart
rayanquitplayin: He wants to bring America back to the past
popsiclejohnithan: He'll shatter it trying to.
popsiclejohnithan: I wonder how long it can hold out.
popsiclejohnithan: Honestly it's my opinion that Trump has basically made way for the Chinese century, the jokes on me if this all somehow does make America the winner though.
popsiclejohnithan: That's if we don't all nuke ourselves.
rayanquitplayin: He wants to renegotiate trade deals but he’s rly just causing inflation
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, he's shot himself in the foot, with a fucking shotgun.
rayanquitplayin: Yeah bruh
popsiclejohnithan: I'm just hoping we get superintelligence soon, we clearly cannot be trusted with ourselves as a species.
rayanquitplayin: I don’t think America’s gonna fall off overnight
popsiclejohnithan: Not overnight, it's going to be a slow and painful death, i hope they do climb themselves out of this hole.
rayanquitplayin: We’ll have AGI
rayanquitplayin: Between Trump, Musk, Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-Un we have some pretty irresponsible world leaders
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, that's why i hope we get A.G.I./superintelligence soon, it's a miricle our species has made it this far.
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