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It’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?"
] |
>
Is it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client."
] |
>
I'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching.
I recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.
Democrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.
I find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?"
] |
>
I want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other… | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports"
] |
>
Because Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…"
] |
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You mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;) | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing."
] |
>
The Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)"
] |
>
The GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset."
] |
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Lets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.
First, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO."
] |
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That’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict."
] |
>
That would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money."
] |
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That would be the dumbest Avenue
Which pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals"
] |
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Can we indict this pos yet??? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down."
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Not yet | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???"
] |
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"yet" is doing a lot of work in this sentence. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet"
] |
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If Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:
"Follow the Money." | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence."
] |
>
White nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\""
] |
>
The Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first). | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people."
] |
>
Det. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first)."
] |
>
Any chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you."
] |
>
There’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.
If the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns."
] |
>
100%
People complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.
Waiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation."
] |
>
The Koch brothers, Putin. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories."
] |
>
The Koch brother
ftfy, lol | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin."
] |
>
Charles and Bill are alive. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol"
] |
>
Damn there were THREE of them? Ah well. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive."
] |
>
Four! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well."
] |
>
So. A corporate bribery scheme? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active."
] |
>
You don't need classified documents for that. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?"
] |
>
I bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that."
] |
>
Why would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon."
] |
>
Because there is a Special Counsel now. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations."
] |
>
...again. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now."
] |
>
yes, follow the money | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again."
] |
>
When right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money"
] |
>
Are we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid."
] |
>
That’s right follow the money. Bring them all down. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?"
] |
>
Just charge the mother fucker already | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down."
] |
>
I thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already"
] |
>
This is getting interesting. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?"
] |
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Look into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting."
] |
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Trump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia
Thought this was known for a while? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china"
] |
>
RNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3 | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?"
] |
>
We know he’s not paying them | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3"
] |
>
As he walks around a free man | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them"
] |
>
Considering all the payments are in rubles… | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man"
] |
>
"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony". | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…"
] |
>
Follow the money... | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\"."
] |
>
If they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money..."
] |
>
Just charge him already | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges."
] |
>
Putin? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already"
] |
>
That's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.
Call me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?"
] |
>
I can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers."
] |
>
Vladdy Puti | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point"
] |
>
Putin money got your back! | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti"
] |
>
Oh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!"
] |
>
This is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?"
] |
>
what's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it."
] |
>
So we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it."
] |
>
They should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now."
] |
>
Teflon Don | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents."
] |
>
Teflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don"
] |
>
Every time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer."
] |
>
They aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry."
] |
>
Putin and the GOP…duh | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs"
] |
>
He’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh"
] |
>
Maybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual"
] |
>
Is Donald writing bad checks again? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?"
] |
>
What a not-photogenic human he is | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?"
] |
>
Lock him up! | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is"
] |
>
And who’s paying for everything else? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!"
] |
>
Either do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?"
] |
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Wow that’s one sexy neck!!!! | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people"
] |
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What a great picture of his Neckgina. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!"
] |
>
OVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina."
] |
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Look at the effin gullet. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O"
] |
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To be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet."
] |
>
Doesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes."
] |
>
The average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable."
] |
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I hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills"
] |
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You can really see his nunt at this angle. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made."
] |
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Again, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle."
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Doesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills."
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If they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?"
] |
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i don’t understand. why would this matter? | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?"
] |
>
Investigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?"
] |
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If Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens"
] |
>
It’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS…. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows."
] |
>
You haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS…."
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You are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden."
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Well, let's see:
Trump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force
Biden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.
The two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets."
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Okay… whatever makes you feel better! | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous."
] |
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And there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.
Like I've said many times about this "both sides" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!"
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I can argue it but there is no point whatsoever. | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!",
">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit."
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Lmao imagine basing your entire personality on protecting a traitor to the United States by arguing with others and using zero reasonable logic while deflecting every valid criticism made towards you
Pathetic | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!",
">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit.",
">\n\nI can argue it but there is no point whatsoever."
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"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!",
">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit.",
">\n\nI can argue it but there is no point whatsoever.",
">\n\nLmao imagine basing your entire personality on protecting a traitor to the United States by arguing with others and using zero reasonable logic while deflecting every valid criticism made towards you\nPathetic"
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At this point I would be more concerned with Biden mishandling classified documents. The weirdest one is the documents in his own garage, secured away with his corvette 🤣 | [
"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!",
">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit.",
">\n\nI can argue it but there is no point whatsoever.",
">\n\nLmao imagine basing your entire personality on protecting a traitor to the United States by arguing with others and using zero reasonable logic while deflecting every valid criticism made towards you\nPathetic",
">\n\nThere have been multiple posts.\nTry again, and this time, try not to make completely bad-faith statements."
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"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!",
">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit.",
">\n\nI can argue it but there is no point whatsoever.",
">\n\nLmao imagine basing your entire personality on protecting a traitor to the United States by arguing with others and using zero reasonable logic while deflecting every valid criticism made towards you\nPathetic",
">\n\nThere have been multiple posts.\nTry again, and this time, try not to make completely bad-faith statements.",
">\n\nAt this point I would be more concerned with Biden mishandling classified documents. The weirdest one is the documents in his own garage, secured away with his corvette 🤣"
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"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!",
">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit.",
">\n\nI can argue it but there is no point whatsoever.",
">\n\nLmao imagine basing your entire personality on protecting a traitor to the United States by arguing with others and using zero reasonable logic while deflecting every valid criticism made towards you\nPathetic",
">\n\nThere have been multiple posts.\nTry again, and this time, try not to make completely bad-faith statements.",
">\n\nAt this point I would be more concerned with Biden mishandling classified documents. The weirdest one is the documents in his own garage, secured away with his corvette 🤣",
">\n\nOf course you would be."
] |
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"I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?",
">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.",
">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree",
">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who",
">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!",
">\n\nThey got Trevor!",
">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.",
">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.",
">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.",
">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.",
">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?",
">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.",
">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?",
">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports",
">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…",
">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.",
">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)",
">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.",
">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.",
">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.",
">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.",
">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals",
">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.",
">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???",
">\n\nNot yet",
">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.",
">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"",
">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.",
">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).",
">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.",
">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.",
">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.",
">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.",
">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.",
">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol",
">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.",
">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.",
">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.",
">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?",
">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.",
">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.",
">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.",
">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.",
">\n\n...again.",
">\n\nyes, follow the money",
">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.",
">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?",
">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.",
">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already",
">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?",
">\n\nThis is getting interesting.",
">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china",
">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?",
">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3",
">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them",
">\n\nAs he walks around a free man",
">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…",
">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".",
">\n\nFollow the money...",
">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.",
">\n\nJust charge him already",
">\n\nPutin?",
">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.",
">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point",
">\n\nVladdy Puti",
">\n\nPutin money got your back!",
">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?",
">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.",
">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.",
">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.",
">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.",
">\n\nTeflon Don",
">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.",
">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.",
">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs",
">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh",
">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual",
">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?",
">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?",
">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is",
">\n\nLock him up!",
">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?",
">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people",
">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!",
">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.",
">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O",
">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.",
">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.",
">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills",
">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.",
">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.",
">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.",
">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?",
">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?",
">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?",
">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens",
">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….",
">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.",
">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.",
">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.",
">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!",
">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit.",
">\n\nI can argue it but there is no point whatsoever.",
">\n\nLmao imagine basing your entire personality on protecting a traitor to the United States by arguing with others and using zero reasonable logic while deflecting every valid criticism made towards you\nPathetic",
">\n\nThere have been multiple posts.\nTry again, and this time, try not to make completely bad-faith statements.",
">\n\nAt this point I would be more concerned with Biden mishandling classified documents. The weirdest one is the documents in his own garage, secured away with his corvette 🤣",
">\n\nOf course you would be.",
">\n\nSpoiler: It’s Trump!"
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