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[ "I wonder if they’re looking at this from an obstruction/witness tampering lens?", ">\n\nThey ought to be looking at it through a criminal organization lens.", ">\n\nRICO predicate I hope. Agree", ">\n\nI think this could be an underreported story that could potentially be rather explosive if they found a bunch of people who", ">\n\nOh no. They got him!!!", ">\n\nThey got Trevor!", ">\n\nOh, Trevor... I pine for you.", ">\n\nI feel that this may be an under reported story that potentially could be rather explosive if they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.", ">\n\n\nif they find a bunch of people who 'cannot recall' because their defense is being funded by trump's campaign slush fund.\n\nThey found one: Cassidy Hutchinson\nTrump was paying her legal bills at the beginning and her Trump lawyer refused to say who was funding it.\nHe said: “If you want to know at the end, we’ll let you know, but we’re not telling people where funding is coming from right now,”\nHer lawyer told her to say she didn't recall, because \"The less you remember, the better,\" and he told her nobody will know what she can't recall.\nShe finally dropped the Trump lawyer and got her own.", ">\n\nCassidy also asked for an engagement letter with her attorney and he said it wasn't necessary. This is key evidence that he was not working for her but for the person funding him.", ">\n\nWhat’s an engagement letter?", ">\n\nIt’s a letter that states the terms of the engagement. It will state that the attorney represents the client. That he did not have her sign one means that he did not consider her his client.", ">\n\nIs it like a binding contract for the lawyer’s services or what purpose does it convey?", ">\n\nI'd like to see an in depth investigation into the entire network of money collecting and distributing that seems to seamlessly comingle the politicians with their propaganda networks where they then all spout the exact same narrative of the day and who knows what other type of proverbial back scratching. \nI recently looked into details on federally mandated campaign fund expense reports and there was a stark difference between what Democrats spend their money on and Republicans, notably the most obnoxious and visible ones we all seem to not be able to avoid hearing about, so the biggest earners.\nDemocrats would have normal expenses you would expect and you walk away with a sense that these are all normal and above board. Republicans, on the other hand, mostly, (Jim Jordan was oddly similar to the spending of Democrats, I'm assuming because of presidential aspirations), had all of these weird pigeon holes that ate up enormous sums of money. Stuff like this one tiny company in Texas run by a group of 30 somethings raking in millions from each of the biggest names. Stuff like common usage of secretive apps that run the same way as Parler, where there is a layer of anonyminity. These apps and these shell companies would turn up on report after report and I never really got to the bottom of it.\nI find it very strange that something that was so easy to find with a very distinct and profound pattern, stays buried in the informational purgatory that defines today's journalism ecosystem where most of them can't seem to find a way to do their damn jobs. I hope the team run by Jack Smith can break the ice here by uncovering a few of these rabbit holes that explain how cash gets moved around and spent in this blatantly conspiratorial manner. This is something that we all should know about and the very reason behind the mandated reports", ">\n\nI want to know how right wing media in the US and Russian state propaganda are spouting the same message seemingly simultaneously and in lockstep with each other…", ">\n\nBecause Russian TV brocasts Fucker Carlson and Hannity with no editing.", ">\n\nYou mean Cucker Far-her-in-the-Sun and Far-Titties? ;)", ">\n\nThe Russians are probably paying for his legal bills. Gotta protect their asset.", ">\n\nThe GOP is paying for his legal bills. The question is if Trump is using these legal funds to pay for lawyers of potential Jan 6 witnesses. If he is and those lawyers are instructing their “clients” to lie to Congress and DOJ, well then that’s a recipe for some RICO.", ">\n\nLets assume what you are saying is true. Trump took GOP money and hired lawyers that persuaded 1/6 witnesses to lie to congress.\nFirst, nearly impossible to prove considering trump is wily enough to not use email and text. Second, im sure there are buffers (part 2) between trump, the money, and the shady lawyer. Third, lets say you could prove 1 and 2, making that into a RICO case looks like a tall mountain to climb. I dont see it. And im not even considering hes the former president of the united states with an evidently insurmountable burden to indict.", ">\n\nThat’s why Trump did the NFTs. Not for the 4.5 million, but for the millions of other untraceable money.", ">\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue. Money exchanged on the blockchain is far far easier to trace to wallet holders then say through shell and international corps. Just look at recent scams like Cryptozoo. They were able to find direct ties to founders and coins moving around behind the scenes. Nearly every inbound and outbound payment was accounted for. You get no where near that much level of transparency with a traditional scam. I honestly hope this was a grift because of how clear it would be able to link to individuals", ">\n\n\nThat would be the dumbest Avenue\n\nWhich pretty much guarantees it's the Avenue Trump bumbled down.", ">\n\nCan we indict this pos yet???", ">\n\nNot yet", ">\n\n\"yet\" is doing a lot of work in this sentence.", ">\n\nIf Watergate taught us anything, is this is how you expose a criminal conspiracy in a corrupt administration:\n\"Follow the Money.\"", ">\n\nWhite nationalists who are hedge fund managers are probably supporting him. Perhaps Koch industries. Definitely shit people.", ">\n\nThe Mercers bankrolled the Cambridge Analytica thing, I wouldn't be surprised to find their money involved ,(even if it does flow through shell companies first).", ">\n\nDet. Lester Freamon : You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.", ">\n\nAny chance we get the auxiliary stuff later and just put his ass in jail now. With the fake elector, find me votes, and docs in Mar a Lago it seems there’s already a couple smoking guns.", ">\n\nThere’s reasons why you don’t actually do this. people often suggest this “let’s just arrest him for the first thing and indict for more as we go.” But once the first indictment is issued, the suspect becomes a defendant, and he and his legal team are instantly afforded a long, long list of constitutionally required accommodations. For instance, evidence has to be turned over. That means you have to be done flipping every potential witness and tracking down leads before you indict.\nIf the FBI interviews Giuliani right now, today, then Giuliani has no way of knowing what the DOJ already knows, what’s already been said… and so he is in constant risk of perjury in himself. And those perjury charges are powerful tools to get a witness to flip. But if they indict trump right now, then the transcripts of other’s testimony has to be immediately turned over to Trump’s attorneys… and in that moment, Giuliani knows exactly what he can get away with, and exactly what information he can safely withhold. You can’t really indict until you have dug your way all the way to the bottom of the barrel. The exception is when there is evidence of a continuous threat of violent behavior. But for a political crime, indictment has to be the last step in the investigation.", ">\n\n100%\nPeople complaining that an indictment is taking too long don't understand that discovery can wreck your whole investigation because it shows the defense exactly what you've been investigating and how to frame the issue to fit the data that you've collected.\nWaiting until you're done investigating is key for these large conspiracy cases where you know there are multiple defendants that are cooperating, sharing information and coordinating their stories.", ">\n\nThe Koch brothers, Putin.", ">\n\n\nThe Koch brother\n\nftfy, lol", ">\n\nCharles and Bill are alive.", ">\n\nDamn there were THREE of them? Ah well.", ">\n\nFour! One was an art collector who wasn’t politically active.", ">\n\nSo. A corporate bribery scheme?", ">\n\nYou don't need classified documents for that.", ">\n\nI bet Trumpworld is shitting its collective pants. They thought they had impunity to ignore the law. They could say anything, do anything. Smith is not in this for show. The hammer will drop soon.", ">\n\nWhy would they worry? There have been very few consequences for anyone above the MAGA army level. If this keeps going the way it has, we will start hitting the statute of limitations.", ">\n\nBecause there is a Special Counsel now.", ">\n\n...again.", ">\n\nyes, follow the money", ">\n\nWhen right wingers say Trump has been investigated since the start and has never charged with a crime, they have a valid point. I’d prefer if this point wasn’t valid.", ">\n\nAre we going to finally FOLLOW THE MONEY?", ">\n\nThat’s right follow the money. Bring them all down.", ">\n\nJust charge the mother fucker already", ">\n\nI thought it was fishy that many of Trump’s staffers were offered a $15k month salary and a position on his campaign committee when they left his administration. It sounded like bribe money. I wonder if attorney privileges were a part of that offer?", ">\n\nThis is getting interesting.", ">\n\nLook into Russia, Saudi, and turkey, and possibly china", ">\n\nTrump <= GOP <= NRA/superPACs <= Russia\nThought this was known for a while?", ">\n\nRNC who is getting the money funneled from the Saudis, China or Russia or maybe even all 3", ">\n\nWe know he’s not paying them", ">\n\nAs he walks around a free man", ">\n\nConsidering all the payments are in rubles…", ">\n\n\"We'll provide you with legal counsel, but only if you say what we want in testimony\".", ">\n\nFollow the money...", ">\n\nIf they're digging into who's paying who's bills, then they're working on conspiracy charges.", ">\n\nJust charge him already", ">\n\nPutin?", ">\n\nThat's all just great but just like Cops don't charge Cops it seem that so far Lawyers don't prosecute Lawyers.\nCall me when there is some real consequences for these fuckers.", ">\n\nI can't imagine who's rushin to give Trump more money at this point", ">\n\nVladdy Puti", ">\n\nPutin money got your back!", ">\n\nOh yeah, whose funding Trump? He has a lot of rallies and his followers will empty their accounts for this man..We can’t forget his “Game Cards” LOL…can you imagine how many people probably bought them?", ">\n\nThis is a terrific picture. As vain as he is, I’m surprised he hasn’t had that neck vagina surgically tucked. Or however they do it.", ">\n\nwhat's the statute of limitations on this? because DOJ will find a way to walk over it.", ">\n\nSo we are still pretending cheeto will have consequences for his crimes? I sure ain’t falling for it anymore, these articles are a dime a dozen and have been for many years now.", ">\n\nThey should look in his garage. I’ve heard that’s where most people keep personal and secret documents.", ">\n\nTeflon Don", ">\n\nTeflon eventually deteriorates then gives you cancer.", ">\n\nEvery time there’s an upshot shown of this cretin I’m scared straight by his chin-gina… excuse me while I go vomit and cry.", ">\n\nThey aren’t bribing trump, they just have a passion for NFTs", ">\n\nPutin and the GOP…duh", ">\n\nHe’s not paying his lawyers. Empty promises as usual", ">\n\nMaybe it's Russia, Russia, Russia?", ">\n\nIs Donald writing bad checks again?", ">\n\nWhat a not-photogenic human he is", ">\n\nLock him up!", ">\n\nAnd who’s paying for everything else?", ">\n\nEither do or don’t. To me l feel like that are terrible actors. Both in there play and also as people", ">\n\nWow that’s one sexy neck!!!!", ">\n\nWhat a great picture of his Neckgina.", ">\n\nOVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O", ">\n\nLook at the effin gullet.", ">\n\nTo be fair there's a good chance he's not paying his lawyers. He's been sued for it before. Lawyers, vendors, contractors, etc. He avoids paying bills like he avoids paying taxes.", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter nothing will be done about it even if they find something illegal. King Trump is untouchable.", ">\n\nThe average Moscow citizen who pays taxes is paying the bills", ">\n\nI hope that being president turns into the worst decision he ever made.", ">\n\nYou can really see his nunt at this angle.", ">\n\nAgain, the supposed billionaire can’t pay his own bills.", ">\n\nDoesn't it count as income when someone else pays your bills? Can we get them with tax evasion?", ">\n\nIf they found out it was George Soros would people heads pop?", ">\n\ni don’t understand. why would this matter?", ">\n\nInvestigation has been intensifying for a year plus, and yet nothing happens", ">\n\nIf Trump gets away with all his crimes, then it just gives the green light to the next POS politician, to do the same things and even worse. Trump needs to go down HARD to set an example for everyone who follows.", ">\n\nIt’s interesting (not surprising) to me that nothing is posted on r/politics about Obama/Biden classified documents that were found in Biden’s garage… This shows it’s okay for one side to mishandle classified documents but not the other side.. as I’ve said all along, it’s all BS….", ">\n\nYou haven't looked too hard then. There's been several stories regarding the first set and the second set of documents found related to Biden.", ">\n\nYou are right, I see the posts. They just didn’t get the attention that Trump gets.", ">\n\nWell, let's see:\n\n\nTrump did everything possible to keep those documents, requiring the government to retrieve them by force\n\n\nBiden has handed and continues to hand all documents over willingly, and it cooperating fully with the DOJ and National Archives.\n\n\nThe two are not the same. Acting like they are is completely disingenuous.", ">\n\nOkay… whatever makes you feel better!", ">\n\nAnd there it is. Can't argue the statement, so you attempt to make it about character.\nLike I've said many times about this \"both sides\" bullshit, it's just that. Bullshit.", ">\n\nI can argue it but there is no point whatsoever.", ">\n\nLmao imagine basing your entire personality on protecting a traitor to the United States by arguing with others and using zero reasonable logic while deflecting every valid criticism made towards you\nPathetic", ">\n\nThere have been multiple posts.\nTry again, and this time, try not to make completely bad-faith statements.", ">\n\nAt this point I would be more concerned with Biden mishandling classified documents. The weirdest one is the documents in his own garage, secured away with his corvette 🤣", ">\n\nOf course you would be.", ">\n\nSpoiler: It’s Trump!", ">\n\nYawn. 8 years into the \"this time Trump is getting nailed\" CNN headline and people are still clicking. The investigation is not intensifying. The need to further monetize CNN.com post CNN+ failing is the only intensification in progress." ]

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[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy...." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way..." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way...", ">\n\nYeah it had the attitude of Rick and morty but with more thought and plot" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way...", ">\n\nYeah it had the attitude of Rick and morty but with more thought and plot", ">\n\nYep, and there were some really deep cuts there if you have knowledge of 90s' conspiracy culture. Ah well. Freakin' Netflix." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way...", ">\n\nYeah it had the attitude of Rick and morty but with more thought and plot", ">\n\nYep, and there were some really deep cuts there if you have knowledge of 90s' conspiracy culture. Ah well. Freakin' Netflix.", ">\n\nEverything good I like is always stained by the behavior of its creators. It’s dark how many especially talented and smart people are just…bad" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way...", ">\n\nYeah it had the attitude of Rick and morty but with more thought and plot", ">\n\nYep, and there were some really deep cuts there if you have knowledge of 90s' conspiracy culture. Ah well. Freakin' Netflix.", ">\n\nEverything good I like is always stained by the behavior of its creators. It’s dark how many especially talented and smart people are just…bad", ">\n\nDon't assume allegations are true. Everyone deserves due process." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way...", ">\n\nYeah it had the attitude of Rick and morty but with more thought and plot", ">\n\nYep, and there were some really deep cuts there if you have knowledge of 90s' conspiracy culture. Ah well. Freakin' Netflix.", ">\n\nEverything good I like is always stained by the behavior of its creators. It’s dark how many especially talented and smart people are just…bad", ">\n\nDon't assume allegations are true. Everyone deserves due process.", ">\n\nIs there any wiggle room for allowing for due process without people calling you an apologist?\nEven if 1% of accusations are false, those 1% don't deserve their life ripped apart by a liar.\nLike that young football prospect who was accused of rape and he had to get proof himself that it never happened. His life is ruined by a lie." ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way...", ">\n\nYeah it had the attitude of Rick and morty but with more thought and plot", ">\n\nYep, and there were some really deep cuts there if you have knowledge of 90s' conspiracy culture. Ah well. Freakin' Netflix.", ">\n\nEverything good I like is always stained by the behavior of its creators. It’s dark how many especially talented and smart people are just…bad", ">\n\nDon't assume allegations are true. Everyone deserves due process.", ">\n\nIs there any wiggle room for allowing for due process without people calling you an apologist?\nEven if 1% of accusations are false, those 1% don't deserve their life ripped apart by a liar.\nLike that young football prospect who was accused of rape and he had to get proof himself that it never happened. His life is ruined by a lie.", ">\n\nDude you must have replied to the wrong person, what the fuck? I have never messaged you.\nedit: this person responded to me but I think they meant to be in a different post. I got messages \"talking shit, defending a nerdy TV show\" and calling me a bunch of names lol\nu/lushbuilding_63 -- aaaand the account is gone. Maybe banned? odd" ]

[ "“Ever think about how horrified the people we love would be if they found out who we truly are?”- Mr. Poopy Butthole, end of season 5. Oohwee.", ">\n\nOohwee indeed friend...oohwee", ">\n\nAh geez, Rick. This isn't exactly a good look, you know?", ">\n\n20 minute court hearing. In and out.", ">\n\n\"Court hearing\" and \"Rick and Morty\" immediately bring the Denver Fenton Allen vs. the State of Georgia verbatim transcript reading to mind.", ">\n\nThis is one of countless reasons why you should not idolize celebrities. Of course, he hasn't been proven guilty yet, but you shouldn't rush to proclaim his innocence either just because you like the stuff he's made. He's just a human being like any other.", ">\n\nCouldn’t agree more, if you need a hero let it be someone important in your life not some fake celebrity personality. The Foo Fighters have an old song about that.", ">\n\n\nif you need a hero let it be someone you actually know\n\nWhen you look up to people whom you have little to no real connection to, you tend to miss things. Plus, you're looking up to an idealized version of them, not who they actually are. At least in my experience, it should be expected your \"heros\" do things unexpected or \"wrong\", because you really don't know much about those people.", ">\n\nOr someone who is dead and can no longer tarnish their reputation. Dr. Carl Sagan is one of my heroes for sure. Man was stellar. Pun intended.", ">\n\nYou mean like Jimmy Saville? He was dead before all his shite became public knowledge", ">\n\nThat’s actually not true at all. Perhaps not widely known, or condemned as unacceptable and thought of as actionable, but it was really huge open secret.\nYou can even see he’s groping a girl, comments on it, and the camera zooms in, at least in part to crop her out.\nI don’t know what it is - mass hypnosis? Career preservation? But people like him just skated by back in the day. I’m so glad people started coming forward.", ">\n\nWhen people talk about rape culture, this is the sort of thing they mean.", ">\n\n\n”When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”\n\n\nDonald J. Trump, former President of the US.", ">\n\nI love Rick and Morty\nCharge him if he’s guilty", ">\n\nI love Solar Opposites even more, charge him and let it get cancelled if that’s what happens. Fuck anyone that does this.", ">\n\nthat show started so good then the shit with the tiny people was pretty lame like... did you guys get bored with your entirely new characters you made already? like what the fuck?", ">\n\nSorry, you’re wrong and have bad tastes. /s\nBut for real, the wall is the show. The rest is filler content.", ">\n\ncant believe so many people like that shit more than the actual alien characters. the idea that yumyulack or whatever has the wall is funny, but exploring every plot line in excruciating detail was a bit much. i genuinely could not have cared less who was the good/bad guy and literally skipped past the parts with \"the wall\" that im now just learning is what its called\nthey basically just made rick and morty again but shrunk down and less interesting... oh man that's so funny they milk a mouse! :|", ">\n\nIt’s not like Rick and Morty other than the sci-fi/space element. I think you were unable to see past that comparison and enjoy it. Not everything is for everyone though.", ">\n\nDamn, and right after the release of High On Life too... that's fucked.", ">\n\nIt was probably specifically buried from news until the game was released.", ">\n\nArticle says this happened in 2020", ">\n\nSince when have they included an Article with the comment section? \n/s", ">\n\nSad.. but I guess we know which one was Rick now", ">\n\nI know what you mean, but, to be clear, he voices both Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nevery rick has its morty, just like every roiland has its harmon", ">\n\nAnd every jerry has a sad sad life", ">\n\nAlso anti-union so extra pos", ">\n\nMost nuanced redditor", ">\n\nSure there is nuance. They are all pieces of shit, just different kinds of pieces of shit. Some are dogshit. Others are bullshit. So many different pieces of shit who are anti-union.", ">\n\nI meant in regards to thinking that unions are not objectively beneficial to the workforce being silly isn't something that can be 'nuanced'", ">\n\nshow about an asshole was made by an asshole discovered to be doing… asshole behavior???", ">\n\n“I used to do asshole things. I still do, but I used to too.”", ">\n\nRIP Mitch", ">\n\nI went to the doctor. All he did was suck blood from my neck.", ">\n\nCome on! Can one creative/famous person keep it in their fucking pants and stop being shitty already?", ">\n\nHey that's not fair on half the famous people who aren't cishet men", ">\n\nI really wish the creators of shows that I love would stop doing this shit. I couldn't stomach another episode of \"Louie\" after C.K.'s behavior was outed, and Joss Whedon's catalogue is pretty unappealing to me these days, too.", ">\n\nOdd enough, his partner Dan Harmon had hands down the best mea culpa from when he lost his show 'Community' by being a total creep to one of the show writers. Actually sounded like he learned something and was making attempts to be a better person.\nMaybe Roiland can get some tips.\n(Though Harmon is still a bit of a mess himself)", ">\n\nWell Dan Harmon never faced felony charges. This is something that is deadly serious and goes beyond whatever the general public thinks about a redemption arc.", ">\n\nOh I was kind of being tongue in cheek there. The allegations against Roiland are FAR worse than what Harmon admitted to doing and he was in no way fully redeemed in my mind after said apology. Hence my comment saying he’s still a mess.", ">\n\nI'm not a fan boy or anything, but unless he has continued to exhibit the same shitty behavior he called himself out for in that apology, I don't see how an individual can take more responsibility for their own actions. That was a very thorough and well-thought apology. I don't see how you're capable of allowing anyone to be redeemed in your eyes if you set that kind of standard. I don't follow Dan Harmon, then or now, so maybe he has continued to be a piece of shit.", ">\n\nSome random thoughts but: I think it’s worth saying that redemption sometimes can require more than a well-worded apology and not being publicly caught with the same shitty behavior. \nIt’s tough because since we’re talking about a public person and him being “redeemed” in the eyes of people publicly, it can be hard for someone to know or trust that actual change has occurred and the same shitty behavior hasn’t just continued on privately. \nIt’s fairly similar to personal relationships in the sense that an apology where trust was broken usually isn’t enough - often redemption requires meaningful change, earning trust back, and sufficient time having passed. There are skilled manipulators out there who are really good at issuing apologies and acting like change has occurred, but then reverting to the same behavior and are maybe just smarter about not getting caught. That makes redemption harder to trust.\nAnd again, it’s different because we are talking a public figure and people who follow him and his work - But at the same time I think it’s reasonable if someone would need more time having passed without more evidence of shitty behavior, or some level of meaningful demonstration of change, before they’d feel the apology and change is valid enough for them to not feel uncomfortable with them and their work.", ">\n\nI understand all of that. But the person whom he has wronged has publicly forgiven him so I can only assume that it wasn’t under duress and that he has taken steps that she feels is sufficient. It’s odd to me that we don’t reject continuing to hold an action against someone who hasn’t personally wronged us as an individual when the impacted person has forgiven them. It’s just a punishment boner at that point.", ">\n\nExactly. You can't be more mad about something than the person it happened to.", ">\n\nI'm not surprised. His older, fringe, cartoons were pretty gross/rapey.", ">\n\nDo you think the Doc and Marty short was a bit telling?", ">\n\nIt's crazy that this happened back in 2020 and we're only just now hearing about it", ">\n\nWell, sounds like he's a dickhead", ">\n\nI mean, if he's guilty... yes. \nIf he's not, then no?", ">\n\nYeah, but if it gets far enough that you get arrested and then fully charged with domestic violence, odds are he did it. It's a very hard crime to overcome even the level of evidence to justify filing a charge, never mind a conviction.", ">\n\nThe rex orange county dude just had a bunch of sexual assault charges dropped only like, 1 week ago, yet here everyone is acting like these charges are 100% proof that it happened.\nAnd every time that situation happens, everyone is all \"it's almost as if you're innocent until proven guilty\", yet here we are again, a comment thread of people acting like the jury has already convicted the dude.", ">\n\nInnocent until proven guilty is for the state locking someone up in prison. While he may have been exonerated in court, I'm pretty fucking sure OJ Simpson did the crime, so I'm going to act accordingly. I'll continue judging people on a case by case basis, and my bar for evidence is a lot lower than the one required to lock someone in prison.\nYou're welcome to have Casey Anthony babysit your kids, I'm not gonna.", ">\n\nYeah and I absolutely guarantee you someone was out here making that exact same comment about the rex orange county dude", ">\n\nAnd I guarantee that someone thinks that letting Casey Anthony babysit is a good idea.\nInnocent until proven guilty is for criminal court. I'm not a judge and I'm not a jury. Me thinking someone did a crime doesn't put them in prison.", ">\n\nThe incident is 3 years old and charges were filed 2 years ago. Why are we just now hearing about this?", ">\n\nBecause the records were sealed.", ">\n\nAnd are still sealed. We don't know what he did, we don't know what evidence there is, all we know is he submitted a not guilty plea, a plea deal was offered, and a trial is scheduled.", ">\n\nWe do know what he has been charged with. \n\nNBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.\n\nThese are very serious charges. Prosecutors normally wouldn’t file these charges unless they thought they could make a strong enough case in a trial to prove he is guilty.", ">\n\nYeah and it's known that he's an alcoholic. Not justifying it but there's a pattern of behavior and surrounding context that indicates he probably did do something particularly bad.", ">\n\nAll these mfs out here talking about how easy it is to get a defensive order have obviously never had to get one.", ">\n\nIn the US, a TRO costs nothing but a 45-minute trek to your local family court building. My ex took six orders out against me, with zero evidence and increasingly unbelievable backstories. All of them were dropped, but all of them were granted first. FWIW I had three orders against her, and the last one became a 12-month criminal restraining order. The facts won out in the end, and she has a criminal record.\nIf it was a valid order then more power to the woman involved. Nobody is going to simp for this guy if he turns out to be a shitbag. But the world learned a LOT about the ways people can abuse family court temporary restraining orders over the last couple of years.", ">\n\nI'm sorry that happened to you and while sometimes the system may be abused, it's a very common occurrence to have protective orders denied only for the requestor to end up dead.\nNot uncommon at all.", ">\n\nA court put in a TRO against my father-in-law for a vindictive, abusive ex-partner. Which is still in place because, as you said, in the past protective orders have been denied with awful results.\nAll that is to say, you can absolutely get a TRO much easier nowadays. No proof or evidence of injury required. So if you’ve had a hard time getting one, it likely varies jurisdiction to jurisdiction.", ">\n\nTo quote Bill Burr: there's plenty of reasons to hit a woman..... You just don't do it.", ">\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her. He could have the same charge for hitting a table. You can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.", ">\n\n\nDoesn’t say he hit her.\n\nThe charge says with corporal injury so he physically injured her somehow, hit, pushed, thrown object.\n\nYou can get a domestic violence charge for yelling.\n\nThat's extremely uncommon and usually because of what you are yelling, like threats of violence.", ">\n\nWow Dan Harmon’s best friend sucks in regards to women? Shocking.", ">\n\nDude's a self proclaimed maniac and alcoholic. He should get some help.", ">\n\n\"I will let you down, I will make you hurt\"", ">\n\nAw geez. It’s ok to like the art and not the artist right?", ">\n\nHate to break it to you but if we didnt follow that rule we wouldnt be able to listen to like half of the music out there", ">\n\nHonestly it's hard to enjoy music after you find out the artist is a shitty person.", ">\n\nThis actually happened quite awhile ago as I heard through friend of a friend, I kept wondering why I didn’t see anything on Reddit etc", ">\n\nFriend of a friend huh? That's never fishy....", ">\n\nI remember back in the early 2010s, I saw a comment on a Cracked article where a guy was saying a friend of a friend was an entertainment procurer for Hollywood types, and that Kevin Spacey was into some very weird shit. I laughed it off as hearsay at the time, but boy did that come back. So while I do take everything with a grain of salt, I'm less likely to completely dismiss things now, I guess.", ">\n\nFinally! I know someone close who dated him and she has terrible stories of him as a person. He's a POS just like you know who from Rick and Morty.", ">\n\nFucking Jerry", ">\n\nDidn’t he also throw the Game Grump’s computer out the window when they had him as a guest?", ">\n\nWhere did you hear that? What the grumps said on the Harmon episode was that they lost the footage somehow.", ">\n\nI mean Roiland throwing it out the window definitely contends as 'losing the footage somehow'.", ">\n\nWow, this happened years ago and was covered up for this long? Hollywood's 'fixer' system to sweep stuff like this under the rug is still going strong. Guy has made plenty of bank and started all kinds of new projects since these charges happened.", ">\n\nWell there’s a protective court order in place most likely because it’s a domestic violence charge and the identity of the victim is being kept secret.", ">\n\nYeah just imagine all those kids who shut down McDonalds trying to get the Szechuan sauce coming for you to protect their favorite cartoon creator!", ">\n\nIf he is guilty, then fuck him. If he is innocent, he is fucked already, cause many people will never believe he isn't guilty.", ">\n\nI can't believe this is the first time i'm hearing about this.", ">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.", ">\n\nYou can take the man out of Stockton but you can’t take the Stockton out of man", ">\n\nThey call it Stockton Syndrome.", ">\n\nI like Rick and morty but if he is convicted I’d also be ok if they quietly replaced that show with inside job", ">\n\nI'd be ok if they replaced it with Inside Job either way...", ">\n\nYeah it had the attitude of Rick and morty but with more thought and plot", ">\n\nYep, and there were some really deep cuts there if you have knowledge of 90s' conspiracy culture. Ah well. Freakin' Netflix.", ">\n\nEverything good I like is always stained by the behavior of its creators. It’s dark how many especially talented and smart people are just…bad", ">\n\nDon't assume allegations are true. Everyone deserves due process.", ">\n\nIs there any wiggle room for allowing for due process without people calling you an apologist?\nEven if 1% of accusations are false, those 1% don't deserve their life ripped apart by a liar.\nLike that young football prospect who was accused of rape and he had to get proof himself that it never happened. His life is ruined by a lie.", ">\n\nDude you must have replied to the wrong person, what the fuck? I have never messaged you.\nedit: this person responded to me but I think they meant to be in a different post. I got messages \"talking shit, defending a nerdy TV show\" and calling me a bunch of names lol\nu/lushbuilding_63 -- aaaand the account is gone. Maybe banned? odd", ">\n\nYou also wouldn’t be able to reply if you’d blocked them, nor would they be able to reply to you, so obviously they’re lying.\nEdit: They didn’t delete their account, they blocked you, which makes their account appear to vanish." ]