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qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhmdm7l | hhilbnu | 1,634,911,446 | 1,634,838,038 | 3 | 2 | If you feel lost, do your personal projects or just draw what you want. Just don't forget to do the lessons until lesson 2. After that start grinding radiorunners curriculum. Then good luck and have fun! | I actually ended up paying for masters new academy and I start the live class for drawing fundamentals this weekend. | 1 | 73,408 | 1.5 | ||
qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhmdm7l | hhjerhb | 1,634,911,446 | 1,634,849,935 | 3 | 2 | If you feel lost, do your personal projects or just draw what you want. Just don't forget to do the lessons until lesson 2. After that start grinding radiorunners curriculum. Then good luck and have fun! | There are some good reddit subs r/learntodraw and r/learnart Are two I like. Both have some seriously talented people who give great feedback, and even if someone is a novice they often have good advice and tips they have learned. | 1 | 61,511 | 1.5 | ||
qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhlwo9o | hhmdm7l | 1,634,903,036 | 1,634,911,446 | 2 | 3 | I really like Draw With Jazza on YouTube. I'm not sure if he's done any drawing videos recently, but he has a whole lot of them, and he breaks drawings down into how to "construct" them then how to do the "line work". So I find it very complementary to draw-a-box. | If you feel lost, do your personal projects or just draw what you want. Just don't forget to do the lessons until lesson 2. After that start grinding radiorunners curriculum. Then good luck and have fun! | 0 | 8,410 | 1.5 | ||
qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhilbnu | hhnwwyw | 1,634,838,038 | 1,634,933,983 | 2 | 3 | I actually ended up paying for masters new academy and I start the live class for drawing fundamentals this weekend. | Proko.com is a pretty good resource for representational art (aka, if you want to draw people, places, and things like the masters!) | 0 | 95,945 | 1.5 | ||
qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhnwwyw | hhjerhb | 1,634,933,983 | 1,634,849,935 | 3 | 2 | Proko.com is a pretty good resource for representational art (aka, if you want to draw people, places, and things like the masters!) | There are some good reddit subs r/learntodraw and r/learnart Are two I like. Both have some seriously talented people who give great feedback, and even if someone is a novice they often have good advice and tips they have learned. | 1 | 84,048 | 1.5 | ||
qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhlwo9o | hhnwwyw | 1,634,903,036 | 1,634,933,983 | 2 | 3 | I really like Draw With Jazza on YouTube. I'm not sure if he's done any drawing videos recently, but he has a whole lot of them, and he breaks drawings down into how to "construct" them then how to do the "line work". So I find it very complementary to draw-a-box. | Proko.com is a pretty good resource for representational art (aka, if you want to draw people, places, and things like the masters!) | 0 | 30,947 | 1.5 | ||
qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhmeckr | hhnwwyw | 1,634,911,756 | 1,634,933,983 | 1 | 3 | Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards is a classic, super lovely guide for beginners or folks who have been away from the craft for a while. I find the exercises to be interesting and rewarding. | Proko.com is a pretty good resource for representational art (aka, if you want to draw people, places, and things like the masters!) | 0 | 22,227 | 3 | ||
qcusov | artfundamentals_train | 1 | question: apart from the drawbox lessons is there a place there to tell me what else to do to get better at drawing? like im completely lost rn i do the exercise 1 home work and then i have no idea what to do what to draw cause i dont know how to draw its like i still feel lost im pretty sure this is related to drawbox.com cause i havent seen an answer to it | hhmpf58 | hhnwwyw | 1,634,916,260 | 1,634,933,983 | 1 | 3 | go on like http://unsplash.com/ , find stuff you like, and draw. (If you got the fundamentals down) | Proko.com is a pretty good resource for representational art (aka, if you want to draw people, places, and things like the masters!) | 0 | 17,723 | 3 | ||
ypsf4n | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | How do I know when I should move on to the next exercise? Like the title says, how do I know when I should move to the next set of excercises/homework? I might be a little slow because I can't move on to the next exercises I have at least 20 pages of Ghosted Planes and I can't stop, everytime I sit down for another drawing session my "warm ups" take 3 hours because the lines are never "straight enough" or they are a little to wobbly or a little too imprecise so I go back to the beginning for another week I've been doing drawabox since July and I *still* haven't finished the first lesson! I managed to make it to the rough perspective exercise but guess what?? The box was *a little* too wobbly and *a litte* too imprecise, so back to the beginning we go! Am I hesitating? Nop, am I drawing from my shoulder? I think so(?), am I rotating the page? Probably more than necessary, am I holding the pen correctly? I have no idea! I don't know what I'm doing wrong and it feels like I'm losing my mind because I feel so incredibly stupid for failing at a single straight line When should I call it quits and say "well I tried"? I'm sorry this is so long, I'm just very frustrated I would appreciate any advice at this point. | ivkiemn | ivkiw92 | 1,667,927,614 | 1,667,927,805 | 1 | 29 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Your question suggests that you may have missed, or perhaps forgotten, what is explained in Lesson 0 - so I strongly urge you to go back through Lesson 0 in its entirety, but especially this video which stresses the fact that you should not be grinding your exercises until *you're* satisfied. You complete the amount of work that is assigned, get feedback on it, and then once the person/people giving you feedback feel you're demonstrating a good understanding of how to approach the material, *then* it becomes part of your warmups. | 0 | 191 | 29 | ||
ypsf4n | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | How do I know when I should move on to the next exercise? Like the title says, how do I know when I should move to the next set of excercises/homework? I might be a little slow because I can't move on to the next exercises I have at least 20 pages of Ghosted Planes and I can't stop, everytime I sit down for another drawing session my "warm ups" take 3 hours because the lines are never "straight enough" or they are a little to wobbly or a little too imprecise so I go back to the beginning for another week I've been doing drawabox since July and I *still* haven't finished the first lesson! I managed to make it to the rough perspective exercise but guess what?? The box was *a little* too wobbly and *a litte* too imprecise, so back to the beginning we go! Am I hesitating? Nop, am I drawing from my shoulder? I think so(?), am I rotating the page? Probably more than necessary, am I holding the pen correctly? I have no idea! I don't know what I'm doing wrong and it feels like I'm losing my mind because I feel so incredibly stupid for failing at a single straight line When should I call it quits and say "well I tried"? I'm sorry this is so long, I'm just very frustrated I would appreciate any advice at this point. | ivkiemn | ivo9tn6 | 1,667,927,614 | 1,667,996,499 | 1 | 7 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | You're not meant to keep doing these until they're perfect! You're meant to do your best following the instructions, complete the assignments as listed without re-doing them, and move on. :) you'll keep learning as you go! It's not only about the finished product at first, but about training your motor skills and your brain. Not all your exercises are going to turn out beautiful, but if you followed instructions and drew to the best of your current ability, then go on to the next assignment! You'll get better as you go. Also, don't forget the instructions to spend time drawing for enjoyment. | 0 | 68,885 | 7 | ||
ypsf4n | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | How do I know when I should move on to the next exercise? Like the title says, how do I know when I should move to the next set of excercises/homework? I might be a little slow because I can't move on to the next exercises I have at least 20 pages of Ghosted Planes and I can't stop, everytime I sit down for another drawing session my "warm ups" take 3 hours because the lines are never "straight enough" or they are a little to wobbly or a little too imprecise so I go back to the beginning for another week I've been doing drawabox since July and I *still* haven't finished the first lesson! I managed to make it to the rough perspective exercise but guess what?? The box was *a little* too wobbly and *a litte* too imprecise, so back to the beginning we go! Am I hesitating? Nop, am I drawing from my shoulder? I think so(?), am I rotating the page? Probably more than necessary, am I holding the pen correctly? I have no idea! I don't know what I'm doing wrong and it feels like I'm losing my mind because I feel so incredibly stupid for failing at a single straight line When should I call it quits and say "well I tried"? I'm sorry this is so long, I'm just very frustrated I would appreciate any advice at this point. | ivkvgyn | ivkiemn | 1,667,932,610 | 1,667,927,614 | 7 | 1 | I went straight to the discord and asked a few times, people that were further along told me if and what I needed rather quickly. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 4,996 | 7 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j27tu1m | j281pbn | 1,672,383,651 | 1,672,389,581 | 4 | 7 | I’d recommend going through the lesson again. Each set of “parallel” lines should be merging together as they move farther away from the viewer. A lot of yours are moving away from each other as they get farther. For example, in the top left box, the front-to-back lines should get closer together towards the back of the box, but they are growing apart. In the bottom right box, the up-and-down lines should move towards each other as they move towards the bottom, but they move away from each other. A few of your boxes look really good, and that’s because they adhere to this rule. The ones that don’t, “don’t look like boxes” as you say. Hope this helps! | I would suggest letting them be ugly, you'll improve with time as long as you're giving it your best effort with each try, you gotta have a sample size over a longer period of time to see your progress, for example let's say you draw 100 boxes, compare your 1st box to your 100th box, you'll probably see that you have improved,it's just that the improvements take time and practice. | 0 | 5,930 | 1.75 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j267koc | j281pbn | 1,672,355,689 | 1,672,389,581 | 1 | 7 | I’m not too far into the course, so I hope I won’t give you wrong feedback, but I would propose to pay more attention to opposite lines, try to make them parallel. The unfinished one on the bottom looks really good, two above it too | I would suggest letting them be ugly, you'll improve with time as long as you're giving it your best effort with each try, you gotta have a sample size over a longer period of time to see your progress, for example let's say you draw 100 boxes, compare your 1st box to your 100th box, you'll probably see that you have improved,it's just that the improvements take time and practice. | 0 | 33,892 | 7 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j26g4ax | j281pbn | 1,672,359,246 | 1,672,389,581 | 1 | 7 | I would also add to keep in mind that sometimes boxes don’t always look like boxes when you break down their perspective. The upper left one looks the least like a box in part because the perspective is so skewed but also because one set of lines doesn’t follow the same perspective. You have one set in parallel (the left-right lines) and one coming from a point in the bottom left which mostly fit, but your vertical lines for that box don’t fit any perspective line. If this last set was fixed, it would probably look more like a box , just with a drastic perspective. Maybe try drawing with three colored markers so you can see how each set works together? | I would suggest letting them be ugly, you'll improve with time as long as you're giving it your best effort with each try, you gotta have a sample size over a longer period of time to see your progress, for example let's say you draw 100 boxes, compare your 1st box to your 100th box, you'll probably see that you have improved,it's just that the improvements take time and practice. | 0 | 30,335 | 7 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j26vjvc | j281pbn | 1,672,365,934 | 1,672,389,581 | 1 | 7 | Search vanishing points on Google and perspective drawing. Good luck! | I would suggest letting them be ugly, you'll improve with time as long as you're giving it your best effort with each try, you gotta have a sample size over a longer period of time to see your progress, for example let's say you draw 100 boxes, compare your 1st box to your 100th box, you'll probably see that you have improved,it's just that the improvements take time and practice. | 0 | 23,647 | 7 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j27tu1m | j267koc | 1,672,383,651 | 1,672,355,689 | 4 | 1 | I’d recommend going through the lesson again. Each set of “parallel” lines should be merging together as they move farther away from the viewer. A lot of yours are moving away from each other as they get farther. For example, in the top left box, the front-to-back lines should get closer together towards the back of the box, but they are growing apart. In the bottom right box, the up-and-down lines should move towards each other as they move towards the bottom, but they move away from each other. A few of your boxes look really good, and that’s because they adhere to this rule. The ones that don’t, “don’t look like boxes” as you say. Hope this helps! | I’m not too far into the course, so I hope I won’t give you wrong feedback, but I would propose to pay more attention to opposite lines, try to make them parallel. The unfinished one on the bottom looks really good, two above it too | 1 | 27,962 | 4 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j27tu1m | j26g4ax | 1,672,383,651 | 1,672,359,246 | 4 | 1 | I’d recommend going through the lesson again. Each set of “parallel” lines should be merging together as they move farther away from the viewer. A lot of yours are moving away from each other as they get farther. For example, in the top left box, the front-to-back lines should get closer together towards the back of the box, but they are growing apart. In the bottom right box, the up-and-down lines should move towards each other as they move towards the bottom, but they move away from each other. A few of your boxes look really good, and that’s because they adhere to this rule. The ones that don’t, “don’t look like boxes” as you say. Hope this helps! | I would also add to keep in mind that sometimes boxes don’t always look like boxes when you break down their perspective. The upper left one looks the least like a box in part because the perspective is so skewed but also because one set of lines doesn’t follow the same perspective. You have one set in parallel (the left-right lines) and one coming from a point in the bottom left which mostly fit, but your vertical lines for that box don’t fit any perspective line. If this last set was fixed, it would probably look more like a box , just with a drastic perspective. Maybe try drawing with three colored markers so you can see how each set works together? | 1 | 24,405 | 4 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j26vjvc | j27tu1m | 1,672,365,934 | 1,672,383,651 | 1 | 4 | Search vanishing points on Google and perspective drawing. Good luck! | I’d recommend going through the lesson again. Each set of “parallel” lines should be merging together as they move farther away from the viewer. A lot of yours are moving away from each other as they get farther. For example, in the top left box, the front-to-back lines should get closer together towards the back of the box, but they are growing apart. In the bottom right box, the up-and-down lines should move towards each other as they move towards the bottom, but they move away from each other. A few of your boxes look really good, and that’s because they adhere to this rule. The ones that don’t, “don’t look like boxes” as you say. Hope this helps! | 0 | 17,717 | 4 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j267koc | j28dd9u | 1,672,355,689 | 1,672,399,067 | 1 | 4 | I’m not too far into the course, so I hope I won’t give you wrong feedback, but I would propose to pay more attention to opposite lines, try to make them parallel. The unfinished one on the bottom looks really good, two above it too | All of your lines are diverging. If you didn’t watch the video for drawing box, go watch. If you did then you misunderstood it. Go try to drawing the same box he’s drawing in the video and study it. Or choose 3 vanishing point, for example 2 on the upper corners of paper and one on the left( I assume you hold paper short sides on the up n bottom) corner then draw a box with ruler. Edit: put the box a liitle up and left according to middle, so there will be 90+ degree between vanishing points. | 0 | 43,378 | 4 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j28dd9u | j26g4ax | 1,672,399,067 | 1,672,359,246 | 4 | 1 | All of your lines are diverging. If you didn’t watch the video for drawing box, go watch. If you did then you misunderstood it. Go try to drawing the same box he’s drawing in the video and study it. Or choose 3 vanishing point, for example 2 on the upper corners of paper and one on the left( I assume you hold paper short sides on the up n bottom) corner then draw a box with ruler. Edit: put the box a liitle up and left according to middle, so there will be 90+ degree between vanishing points. | I would also add to keep in mind that sometimes boxes don’t always look like boxes when you break down their perspective. The upper left one looks the least like a box in part because the perspective is so skewed but also because one set of lines doesn’t follow the same perspective. You have one set in parallel (the left-right lines) and one coming from a point in the bottom left which mostly fit, but your vertical lines for that box don’t fit any perspective line. If this last set was fixed, it would probably look more like a box , just with a drastic perspective. Maybe try drawing with three colored markers so you can see how each set works together? | 1 | 39,821 | 4 | ||
zyasx8 | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | How can I make mildly decent looking boxes? I've hit a roadblock on the organic perspective homework of lesson 1 I tried following the instructions step by step but my boxes always end up botched They barely look like boxes at all I don't know what to do, if I should just do the best I can and just let them be ugly (Because even my best is pretty awful) I thought I was doing so mildly decent so far https://i.imgur.com/l2QwXdM.jpg | j26vjvc | j28dd9u | 1,672,365,934 | 1,672,399,067 | 1 | 4 | Search vanishing points on Google and perspective drawing. Good luck! | All of your lines are diverging. If you didn’t watch the video for drawing box, go watch. If you did then you misunderstood it. Go try to drawing the same box he’s drawing in the video and study it. Or choose 3 vanishing point, for example 2 on the upper corners of paper and one on the left( I assume you hold paper short sides on the up n bottom) corner then draw a box with ruler. Edit: put the box a liitle up and left according to middle, so there will be 90+ degree between vanishing points. | 0 | 33,133 | 4 | ||
o2uej6 | artfundamentals_train | 1 | I am at 250 boxes challenge rn? So can I do any other online art courses parallel to drawabox? If I can, please recommend me some areas of art I need to parallel to drawabox! And would appreciate if you recommend courses along with them too. | h28yurs | h28snkt | 1,624,047,152 | 1,624,044,373 | 10 | 4 | I've been roughly following this curriculum. Idk what your goals are with art but my understanding is that the activities recommended here are for developing a broad set of skills. | I've been watching the Proko's figure drawing videos and studying along with drawabox lessons. Perspective videos/lessons on youtube too. | 1 | 2,779 | 2.5 | ||
q5c33w | artfundamentals_train | 0.9 | Am I supposed to do only DrawABox (and the 50% rule) or should I follow other resources as well? I'm on my 70 box out of 250. I did all the exercises so far as instructed, carefully reading the text and watching the videos multiple times, following the 50% rule to the letter. I dedicate two hours each day. When I did the exercises it used to be 2 hours DrawABox / 2 hours 50% rule the next day. Now when I'm on the 250 box challenge I do 1 hour of drawing boxes (one page) and 1 hour of simply drawing each day. Something doesn't feel right. I feel very disappointed in myself and my lack of progress so far. My boxes are still bad, my lines are wobbly and my drawings on the 50% time are terrible and painful to produce. I see the work of other people here and it looks so much better than mine. I have 2+ years of previous experience in art but came here after common advice failed me and being unable to make any sort of improvement, hoping this will finally make things click. Maybe I need to build a better practice plan, one that is more aimed to my interests? Should I follow other resources at the same time and reduce the time I'm working on DrawABox? (Though I'm afraid I still won't be able to understand those other resources...) Or maybe I'm just stressing myself out too early? I feel really confused and lost right now. Can someone help me figure out if I'm doing the right thing? | hg66o82 | hg5mc47 | 1,633,912,546 | 1,633,903,052 | 5 | 2 | You're not even half way done. Draw the boxes! Haha do just like you're doing. Draw for an hour. Doodle for an hour. Your personal drawing should be fun and relaxed. Draw the boxes until you're one with the boxes. Through boxes you can draw anything. Through boxes you can learn anything. Boxes are king. Lol the point is, it is a true fundamental. If you leave now, you'll be back later. To be honest, 250 boxes is a bare minimum. After you've gone through all the lessons. Go back, draw another 750 boxes. But this time get creative. Big boxes small boxes. Stretchy ones. Smooshed ones. Tall ones small ones. Turn the box, bend the box. Far away boxes, close up boxes. Boxes hiding behind other boxes. When you master the box, you master form, perspective, an your sense of 3d objects in space. After your 750 additional. Move on to drawing complex shapes with boxes. Draw the human form made out of squares and rectangle like shapes. Animals, bugs, but with box style. Square style. Just make sure to do all the lessons first. So do the 250 boxes. An move onto the next lesson. No need to rush, its half training, and half your personal doodle time. Draw a box is amazing because it puts strong emphasis on fundamentals. To be honest I've never seen a better resource. After you complete it, you could even go back an do it again if you didnt grasp it fully the first time. They are exersices you can do for life until they are fully ingrained in your brain. After the lessons, if you're still lost, come back and ask more questions. If you can find good fundamental work in other places, you can totally incorporate that work into your 50% time. Just do one course at a time though. An eventually you'll have a stack of personal practice resources. Draw a lot to get better at drawing. Draw a lot of boxes to get better at boxes. Get better at boxes, get better at everything. Master the square an you'll rule the world! | I think your stressing things out too much these things are very difficult and will take a long time I suggest maybe try looking towards your mental health in order to calm yourself before you start drawing a maybe try looking up exercises for your shoulder to strengthen it for when you draw using it to make it stronger and hopefully get betters lines something I think you should do is not focus 100% of just trying to get better spend on day practising and the next drawing just for the fun of it even if it turns out not the way you've planed trust me I tried just focusing on practice for everyday for hours and all it did was stress me out I think you're just being too hard on yourself | 1 | 9,494 | 2.5 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxeazlh | fxedy3a | 1,594,275,031 | 1,594,277,643 | 24 | 53 | I'm not a long time veteran of DrawABox or anything but with the experience I do have I can definitely say that it's helped a bunch in getting me used to the base parts of art like maintaining clean lines, developing textures, and visualizing 3d space. Everything I've learned works wonders for making my art feel more developed and solid. As for the one hour a day thing. That's definitely enough for you to improve steadily, I myself usually spend around that much time drawing daily and I'm doing well. Hope my reply helps and that you get some more replies to further answer your question. :^) | yes it is, 1 hour a day is sufficient. He does have a 50/50 rule so half your time is practice and the other is drawing for pleasure. | 0 | 2,612 | 2.208333 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxebij5 | fxedy3a | 1,594,275,485 | 1,594,277,643 | 20 | 53 | It's good for fundamentals. It's upto you later on how you use these fundamentals. That requires self. | yes it is, 1 hour a day is sufficient. He does have a 50/50 rule so half your time is practice and the other is drawing for pleasure. | 0 | 2,158 | 2.65 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxf7jxc | fxeazlh | 1,594,302,753 | 1,594,275,031 | 30 | 24 | DrawABox is good if you have the discipline to actually do it. I found it really boring and couldn’t force myself to stick with it, so I found this drawing course on Udemy instead that I paid like $10 for and am now halfway through. If you’re able to stick with drawabox, that’s great and you’ll probably learn a lot, but if you find that it’s just too hard to make yourself do it, there are other options out there that might be a better fit for you. | I'm not a long time veteran of DrawABox or anything but with the experience I do have I can definitely say that it's helped a bunch in getting me used to the base parts of art like maintaining clean lines, developing textures, and visualizing 3d space. Everything I've learned works wonders for making my art feel more developed and solid. As for the one hour a day thing. That's definitely enough for you to improve steadily, I myself usually spend around that much time drawing daily and I'm doing well. Hope my reply helps and that you get some more replies to further answer your question. :^) | 1 | 27,722 | 1.25 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxebij5 | fxf7jxc | 1,594,275,485 | 1,594,302,753 | 20 | 30 | It's good for fundamentals. It's upto you later on how you use these fundamentals. That requires self. | DrawABox is good if you have the discipline to actually do it. I found it really boring and couldn’t force myself to stick with it, so I found this drawing course on Udemy instead that I paid like $10 for and am now halfway through. If you’re able to stick with drawabox, that’s great and you’ll probably learn a lot, but if you find that it’s just too hard to make yourself do it, there are other options out there that might be a better fit for you. | 0 | 27,268 | 1.5 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxgal1e | fxglxdh | 1,594,321,699 | 1,594,327,106 | 11 | 12 | Draw a box will give you a decent foundation of certain things, but you will not zero to hero by using it. I would recommend researching a few drawing books, possibly purchasing for the affluent, youtube, and daily practice. **The daily practice is the zero to hero method.** It takes a while to get used to, but you will be able to measure your progress constantly after a few months in. | If you have 1h to spend learning how to draw then use it. But beware the things that you're going to learn are going to be your foundation, but not necessarily fun. The creator of the site says you should spend 50% of your time learning and 50% drawing for fun. The lessons after a while become boring, some people including me, have given up on Drawabox then restarted the journey again. My tip: Don't overthink, slow progress is still progress. | 0 | 5,407 | 1.090909 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxgcbtz | fxglxdh | 1,594,322,534 | 1,594,327,106 | 5 | 12 | Check out Paul Priestley on YouTube. He has a fun, easy to follow style. | If you have 1h to spend learning how to draw then use it. But beware the things that you're going to learn are going to be your foundation, but not necessarily fun. The creator of the site says you should spend 50% of your time learning and 50% drawing for fun. The lessons after a while become boring, some people including me, have given up on Drawabox then restarted the journey again. My tip: Don't overthink, slow progress is still progress. | 0 | 4,572 | 2.4 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxglxdh | fxg8lqv | 1,594,327,106 | 1,594,320,766 | 12 | 4 | If you have 1h to spend learning how to draw then use it. But beware the things that you're going to learn are going to be your foundation, but not necessarily fun. The creator of the site says you should spend 50% of your time learning and 50% drawing for fun. The lessons after a while become boring, some people including me, have given up on Drawabox then restarted the journey again. My tip: Don't overthink, slow progress is still progress. | No Just sketch while commuting or something Make it regular Don’t fall for the drawabox cult | 1 | 6,340 | 3 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxg8lqv | fxgal1e | 1,594,320,766 | 1,594,321,699 | 4 | 11 | No Just sketch while commuting or something Make it regular Don’t fall for the drawabox cult | Draw a box will give you a decent foundation of certain things, but you will not zero to hero by using it. I would recommend researching a few drawing books, possibly purchasing for the affluent, youtube, and daily practice. **The daily practice is the zero to hero method.** It takes a while to get used to, but you will be able to measure your progress constantly after a few months in. | 0 | 933 | 2.75 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxgcbtz | fxgxsyr | 1,594,322,534 | 1,594,332,966 | 5 | 6 | Check out Paul Priestley on YouTube. He has a fun, easy to follow style. | I guess a lot depends on what you plan on drawing as some things are easier to pick up than others. I've been using a combination of CroquisCafe & LoveLifeDrawings to learn human figure drawings and usually spend an hour or so each day and i thinks its fine. | 0 | 10,432 | 1.2 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxg8lqv | fxgxsyr | 1,594,320,766 | 1,594,332,966 | 4 | 6 | No Just sketch while commuting or something Make it regular Don’t fall for the drawabox cult | I guess a lot depends on what you plan on drawing as some things are easier to pick up than others. I've been using a combination of CroquisCafe & LoveLifeDrawings to learn human figure drawings and usually spend an hour or so each day and i thinks its fine. | 0 | 12,200 | 1.5 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxgxsyr | fxgxsro | 1,594,332,966 | 1,594,332,963 | 6 | 5 | I guess a lot depends on what you plan on drawing as some things are easier to pick up than others. I've been using a combination of CroquisCafe & LoveLifeDrawings to learn human figure drawings and usually spend an hour or so each day and i thinks its fine. | Alphonso dunn has a great youtube channel and two great books, one of which is an exercise workbook. He also has a smooth relaxing voice that I love. | 1 | 3 | 1.2 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxgcbtz | fxg8lqv | 1,594,322,534 | 1,594,320,766 | 5 | 4 | Check out Paul Priestley on YouTube. He has a fun, easy to follow style. | No Just sketch while commuting or something Make it regular Don’t fall for the drawabox cult | 1 | 1,768 | 1.25 | ||
hnwcv9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? I want to learn how to draw and have about 1 hour a day, is DrawABox the way to go? Also, is 1 hour a decent amount of time to practice (assuming the 1 hour is quality practice) | fxgxsro | fxg8lqv | 1,594,332,963 | 1,594,320,766 | 5 | 4 | Alphonso dunn has a great youtube channel and two great books, one of which is an exercise workbook. He also has a smooth relaxing voice that I love. | No Just sketch while commuting or something Make it regular Don’t fall for the drawabox cult | 1 | 12,197 | 1.25 | ||
u7xmje | artfundamentals_train | 0.69 | How do I find a balance between university and DRAWABOX?? I ask this because honestly I am one of those people who take a long time to practice something (for example, you can spend an hour drawing the human figure, I take two days or even weeks), I would also like practice other things like drawing heads, learning shading, and digital painting, but I get discouraged because I don't work fast like other people can. I feel that I can last longer in Drawabox than other people, I also have the obsession of doing a lot of practices for a single exercise, I realized that when I was drawing branches and leaves. | i5i5uhn | i5kmn7e | 1,650,474,573 | 1,650,511,559 | 5 | 6 | the right thing to do would be giving your 100% at uni first, then comeback to drawabox, don't hurry, drawabox is gonna be at the same exact place once you come back (drawabox.com) but if you're stubborn first of all, if you want to balance university and drawabox, don't deviate from drawabox then, don't do stuff like proko, color theory or anything, you can do these after you're done with this course, this is because you just can't do a lot at once since you're busy also, is better to do drawabox 20min a day, than 5 hours a month, if you can do just a little bit everyday, is better, consistency is key how many hours do you spent at university? without that i can't really give you much tips i'm kinda on a similar situation where i have school, trying to learn a new language, and drawabox lol | It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Do 10-15 minutes a day, that’s all. Use it to break up study sessions. | 0 | 36,986 | 1.2 | ||
u7xmje | artfundamentals_train | 0.69 | How do I find a balance between university and DRAWABOX?? I ask this because honestly I am one of those people who take a long time to practice something (for example, you can spend an hour drawing the human figure, I take two days or even weeks), I would also like practice other things like drawing heads, learning shading, and digital painting, but I get discouraged because I don't work fast like other people can. I feel that I can last longer in Drawabox than other people, I also have the obsession of doing a lot of practices for a single exercise, I realized that when I was drawing branches and leaves. | i5kmn7e | i5jsdy1 | 1,650,511,559 | 1,650,498,038 | 6 | 5 | It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Do 10-15 minutes a day, that’s all. Use it to break up study sessions. | I just set a goal of doing a little each day so I can balance it with my classes. I do have trouble staying consistent during exam season but besides that I've been able to keep up. | 1 | 13,521 | 1.2 | ||
uehhyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.93 | Should I do Drawabox all over again after a hiatus? Hi everyone! I've done Drawabox in the past and got up to half of Lesson 1, that is I did the Lines:Homework. However, I stopped practicing and drawing for fun since (procrastination, experiential avoidance, uni). I'd love to start drawing again, but I'm not sure if I should do the homework again or just move on. I has been some time so I feel like my skill has diminished. Thank you for your answers! P.S. Regarding this, after finishing the exercises, should I do them every day from then on as a warmup exercise? How does this work? | i6on4ae | i6q3dti | 1,651,250,049 | 1,651,272,725 | 5 | 6 | I’d use the lessons as your practice and do a brush up, we’re told to do that anyways at the beginning of each session for practice. However one thing I worry about with restarting completely is that whatever burnt you out before might make you do it again. I think it’s viable to continue on in the lessons and use the homework during your practice sessions But you were not very far along to begin with and the lines lessons are not that long so I’d say in your case you can restart if you feel that is more comfortable | yes!! remember how each lesson can be done as a warm up exercise? so if you’ve already done it, you just need to remind yourself and practice a little. remember not to grind for no reason; it will burn you out !! edit- PS. just browse the lessons and do a couple minutes on whichever concepts you feel you want/need to refresh. this doesn’t have to be super rigid bc you’re still accomplishing practice and it’s important to make “practicing” as easy and enjoyable as possible 👏🏼👍🏼🤌🏼 | 0 | 22,676 | 1.2 | ||
uehhyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.93 | Should I do Drawabox all over again after a hiatus? Hi everyone! I've done Drawabox in the past and got up to half of Lesson 1, that is I did the Lines:Homework. However, I stopped practicing and drawing for fun since (procrastination, experiential avoidance, uni). I'd love to start drawing again, but I'm not sure if I should do the homework again or just move on. I has been some time so I feel like my skill has diminished. Thank you for your answers! P.S. Regarding this, after finishing the exercises, should I do them every day from then on as a warmup exercise? How does this work? | i6q3dti | i6pmnev | 1,651,272,725 | 1,651,265,007 | 6 | 4 | yes!! remember how each lesson can be done as a warm up exercise? so if you’ve already done it, you just need to remind yourself and practice a little. remember not to grind for no reason; it will burn you out !! edit- PS. just browse the lessons and do a couple minutes on whichever concepts you feel you want/need to refresh. this doesn’t have to be super rigid bc you’re still accomplishing practice and it’s important to make “practicing” as easy and enjoyable as possible 👏🏼👍🏼🤌🏼 | I'm at the point where I feel like I have to start over myself. It's been over a year. I have a few sketchbooks in the basement that are full, but I just stopped for some reason. | 1 | 7,718 | 1.5 | ||
uehhyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.93 | Should I do Drawabox all over again after a hiatus? Hi everyone! I've done Drawabox in the past and got up to half of Lesson 1, that is I did the Lines:Homework. However, I stopped practicing and drawing for fun since (procrastination, experiential avoidance, uni). I'd love to start drawing again, but I'm not sure if I should do the homework again or just move on. I has been some time so I feel like my skill has diminished. Thank you for your answers! P.S. Regarding this, after finishing the exercises, should I do them every day from then on as a warmup exercise? How does this work? | i6q7grf | i6pmnev | 1,651,274,668 | 1,651,265,007 | 5 | 4 | As valuable as the 250 box challenge was I’d never do it again. The rest of them sure why not | I'm at the point where I feel like I have to start over myself. It's been over a year. I have a few sketchbooks in the basement that are full, but I just stopped for some reason. | 1 | 9,661 | 1.25 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24cq9r | g23i8i1 | 1,597,856,946 | 1,597,842,199 | 27 | 25 | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | Not all drawing courses fit everyone and DaB is *not* a universal first step. Learn to draw like many of us did before the Internet. I wouldn't have made it through DaB either. Go to your local library and sift through drawing books to see which ones speak to you. Bring them home and study. Learn to *SEE.* You want to look at objects and see structure. Go to your local hobby store to the floral department. You will see Styrofoam cones, spheres, boxes and rectangles. Bring the green ones home rather than stark white. Set them up as contrasting shapes and draw them with different lighting. It will help you with drawing three dimensions by applying value and proportion. Expand to real objects ... go to your kitchen and pull out cups, bowls, saucers, jars ... solid color rather than patterned. You want to understand ellipses, form, and value. Work up to adding knives, forks, and spoons. Move on to botanicals and texture ... place a branch on the table, a bloomed plant, any odd object, a wrench, hammer, stacked books, a clock, shoes ... draw *things.* Hang a piece of cloth, a pillow case or blanket and draw the drapery. Your challenge is drawing what you *see.* In among all that work on proportion, value, perspective ... then move to anatomy, draw Classic Greek and Roman sculpture. Animal anatomy is species specific; you will never learn to draw a horse or giraffe drawing circles. Later you can move on to color theory. All of it will come together in time. | 1 | 14,747 | 1.08 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23i8i1 | g22zae8 | 1,597,842,199 | 1,597,825,810 | 25 | 18 | Not all drawing courses fit everyone and DaB is *not* a universal first step. Learn to draw like many of us did before the Internet. I wouldn't have made it through DaB either. Go to your local library and sift through drawing books to see which ones speak to you. Bring them home and study. Learn to *SEE.* You want to look at objects and see structure. Go to your local hobby store to the floral department. You will see Styrofoam cones, spheres, boxes and rectangles. Bring the green ones home rather than stark white. Set them up as contrasting shapes and draw them with different lighting. It will help you with drawing three dimensions by applying value and proportion. Expand to real objects ... go to your kitchen and pull out cups, bowls, saucers, jars ... solid color rather than patterned. You want to understand ellipses, form, and value. Work up to adding knives, forks, and spoons. Move on to botanicals and texture ... place a branch on the table, a bloomed plant, any odd object, a wrench, hammer, stacked books, a clock, shoes ... draw *things.* Hang a piece of cloth, a pillow case or blanket and draw the drapery. Your challenge is drawing what you *see.* In among all that work on proportion, value, perspective ... then move to anatomy, draw Classic Greek and Roman sculpture. Animal anatomy is species specific; you will never learn to draw a horse or giraffe drawing circles. Later you can move on to color theory. All of it will come together in time. | You have to make something like DAB into a habit. The way I do it is I draw everyday for 1-2 hours. I will alternate days between drawing what I want, and doing DAB lessons. Sadly there is no secret trick to it, you just have to do it. There are definitely lessons there that I hated doing, but once you sit down and start working it gets easier. If I were you, I would just make it a rule for myself to draw everyday, and every other day I'd do DAB(or even everyday if you can also squeeze in drawing what you want). A habit will form after some time and it should become easier day by day to do it. | 1 | 16,389 | 1.388889 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22s826 | g23i8i1 | 1,597,818,730 | 1,597,842,199 | 17 | 25 | I used it for the first month of learning to draw, I fizzled out and went my own way doing master studies, studies from reference, reading a few books. DAB is good for as long as you can stick it, those first few lessons are gold though, especially as if you pick up, uncomfortable gives you tips along the way, It got me drawing every day, and thinking about objects as simplified geometric forms. There are other sources that do this so do what feels right for you checkout videos by Peter Han, and also the episodes on art parents / master studies from the Draftsmen podcast, Sycras videos on practice and iterative drawing... I think the more sources you absorb the better as you start to see the patterns to progress in your draftsmanship | Not all drawing courses fit everyone and DaB is *not* a universal first step. Learn to draw like many of us did before the Internet. I wouldn't have made it through DaB either. Go to your local library and sift through drawing books to see which ones speak to you. Bring them home and study. Learn to *SEE.* You want to look at objects and see structure. Go to your local hobby store to the floral department. You will see Styrofoam cones, spheres, boxes and rectangles. Bring the green ones home rather than stark white. Set them up as contrasting shapes and draw them with different lighting. It will help you with drawing three dimensions by applying value and proportion. Expand to real objects ... go to your kitchen and pull out cups, bowls, saucers, jars ... solid color rather than patterned. You want to understand ellipses, form, and value. Work up to adding knives, forks, and spoons. Move on to botanicals and texture ... place a branch on the table, a bloomed plant, any odd object, a wrench, hammer, stacked books, a clock, shoes ... draw *things.* Hang a piece of cloth, a pillow case or blanket and draw the drapery. Your challenge is drawing what you *see.* In among all that work on proportion, value, perspective ... then move to anatomy, draw Classic Greek and Roman sculpture. Animal anatomy is species specific; you will never learn to draw a horse or giraffe drawing circles. Later you can move on to color theory. All of it will come together in time. | 0 | 23,469 | 1.470588 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23i8i1 | g239ref | 1,597,842,199 | 1,597,836,605 | 25 | 11 | Not all drawing courses fit everyone and DaB is *not* a universal first step. Learn to draw like many of us did before the Internet. I wouldn't have made it through DaB either. Go to your local library and sift through drawing books to see which ones speak to you. Bring them home and study. Learn to *SEE.* You want to look at objects and see structure. Go to your local hobby store to the floral department. You will see Styrofoam cones, spheres, boxes and rectangles. Bring the green ones home rather than stark white. Set them up as contrasting shapes and draw them with different lighting. It will help you with drawing three dimensions by applying value and proportion. Expand to real objects ... go to your kitchen and pull out cups, bowls, saucers, jars ... solid color rather than patterned. You want to understand ellipses, form, and value. Work up to adding knives, forks, and spoons. Move on to botanicals and texture ... place a branch on the table, a bloomed plant, any odd object, a wrench, hammer, stacked books, a clock, shoes ... draw *things.* Hang a piece of cloth, a pillow case or blanket and draw the drapery. Your challenge is drawing what you *see.* In among all that work on proportion, value, perspective ... then move to anatomy, draw Classic Greek and Roman sculpture. Animal anatomy is species specific; you will never learn to draw a horse or giraffe drawing circles. Later you can move on to color theory. All of it will come together in time. | I started a few weeks ago and it honestly keeps me going mostly because I stream doing my homeworks 1 hour before actually going to play games. I feel like I am a total clumsy person when it comes to drawing but at least I am trying and I know it will show results maybe in one year from now. | 1 | 5,594 | 2.272727 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g23i8i1 | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,842,199 | 9 | 25 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | Not all drawing courses fit everyone and DaB is *not* a universal first step. Learn to draw like many of us did before the Internet. I wouldn't have made it through DaB either. Go to your local library and sift through drawing books to see which ones speak to you. Bring them home and study. Learn to *SEE.* You want to look at objects and see structure. Go to your local hobby store to the floral department. You will see Styrofoam cones, spheres, boxes and rectangles. Bring the green ones home rather than stark white. Set them up as contrasting shapes and draw them with different lighting. It will help you with drawing three dimensions by applying value and proportion. Expand to real objects ... go to your kitchen and pull out cups, bowls, saucers, jars ... solid color rather than patterned. You want to understand ellipses, form, and value. Work up to adding knives, forks, and spoons. Move on to botanicals and texture ... place a branch on the table, a bloomed plant, any odd object, a wrench, hammer, stacked books, a clock, shoes ... draw *things.* Hang a piece of cloth, a pillow case or blanket and draw the drapery. Your challenge is drawing what you *see.* In among all that work on proportion, value, perspective ... then move to anatomy, draw Classic Greek and Roman sculpture. Animal anatomy is species specific; you will never learn to draw a horse or giraffe drawing circles. Later you can move on to color theory. All of it will come together in time. | 0 | 18,971 | 2.777778 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23i3mr | g23i8i1 | 1,597,842,129 | 1,597,842,199 | 8 | 25 | There are unfortunately no shortcuts. You have to build up that physical drawing mileage. Doing things over and over and over. Hammering on the fundamentals until they're second nature in your brain. Skipping ahead to the most difficult subject (human beings) is holding you back imo. I treated it like homework. I worked on it some a few days a week. I started to see progress fairly quickly. Once I left the first few basic lessons behind and started drawing plants, bugs and animals things got much, much more interesting for me. Those were things that I actually wanted to be able to draw well so it was even more motivation. During lesson 5, the animals, I was drawing every day because I like drawing animals. If you really, really want it you'll find the time. Just my 2 cents though. I was really serious about improving my fundamental drawing skills and I typically have no problem sitting down and focusing on a task so your mileage may vary. | Not all drawing courses fit everyone and DaB is *not* a universal first step. Learn to draw like many of us did before the Internet. I wouldn't have made it through DaB either. Go to your local library and sift through drawing books to see which ones speak to you. Bring them home and study. Learn to *SEE.* You want to look at objects and see structure. Go to your local hobby store to the floral department. You will see Styrofoam cones, spheres, boxes and rectangles. Bring the green ones home rather than stark white. Set them up as contrasting shapes and draw them with different lighting. It will help you with drawing three dimensions by applying value and proportion. Expand to real objects ... go to your kitchen and pull out cups, bowls, saucers, jars ... solid color rather than patterned. You want to understand ellipses, form, and value. Work up to adding knives, forks, and spoons. Move on to botanicals and texture ... place a branch on the table, a bloomed plant, any odd object, a wrench, hammer, stacked books, a clock, shoes ... draw *things.* Hang a piece of cloth, a pillow case or blanket and draw the drapery. Your challenge is drawing what you *see.* In among all that work on proportion, value, perspective ... then move to anatomy, draw Classic Greek and Roman sculpture. Animal anatomy is species specific; you will never learn to draw a horse or giraffe drawing circles. Later you can move on to color theory. All of it will come together in time. | 0 | 70 | 3.125 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24cq9r | g22zae8 | 1,597,856,946 | 1,597,825,810 | 27 | 18 | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | You have to make something like DAB into a habit. The way I do it is I draw everyday for 1-2 hours. I will alternate days between drawing what I want, and doing DAB lessons. Sadly there is no secret trick to it, you just have to do it. There are definitely lessons there that I hated doing, but once you sit down and start working it gets easier. If I were you, I would just make it a rule for myself to draw everyday, and every other day I'd do DAB(or even everyday if you can also squeeze in drawing what you want). A habit will form after some time and it should become easier day by day to do it. | 1 | 31,136 | 1.5 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24cq9r | g22s826 | 1,597,856,946 | 1,597,818,730 | 27 | 17 | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | I used it for the first month of learning to draw, I fizzled out and went my own way doing master studies, studies from reference, reading a few books. DAB is good for as long as you can stick it, those first few lessons are gold though, especially as if you pick up, uncomfortable gives you tips along the way, It got me drawing every day, and thinking about objects as simplified geometric forms. There are other sources that do this so do what feels right for you checkout videos by Peter Han, and also the episodes on art parents / master studies from the Draftsmen podcast, Sycras videos on practice and iterative drawing... I think the more sources you absorb the better as you start to see the patterns to progress in your draftsmanship | 1 | 38,216 | 1.588235 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23ol2c | g24cq9r | 1,597,845,330 | 1,597,856,946 | 16 | 27 | I actually just quit DaB. The first few exercises seemed to help a lot, but I found I was bored with it somewhere in the middle of the boxes exercise. The way perspective is taught seemed confusing to me (on the rotated boxes exercise, I felt like I was just guessing where the back of the box was and didn't feel like I really saw an explanation on how to derive that once the box was rotated). I found myself procrastinating doing art, feeling guilty when I did more 'fun' sketches and paintings, and felt like I had to pump myself up to sit there and draw 5 boxes per study, 3 studies per page... and I felt like I was getting diminishing returns on line accuracy. My box perspectives and corrections weren't really improving between studies. For me, I think line accuracy, ellipse accuracy, lack of wobble, etc just need more general mileage. I found myself wishing I was done with the exercises so I could move on already and begin looking at a few books I'd picked up. So yesterday, I quit. Art is an important hobby for me, but it isn't my only hobby. I don't want to feel like I'm 'grinding' or suffering through it because I know I will get burnt out and quit forever. | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | 0 | 11,616 | 1.6875 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24cq9r | g23jjmn | 1,597,856,946 | 1,597,842,872 | 27 | 14 | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | Depends on what you're looking to do. Draw-a-box is something I return to when I find my line control and basic perspective are rusty. The simple exercise of turning a box on its axes is very helpful, as well playing around with organic forms and find the contour lines on organic shapes. If you think you're far enough along beyond the basics, it's like going all the way back to learn basic addition and subtraction when you're just talking about getting refamiliar with precalc or trigonometry. It's your time and energy--feel free to jettison exercises that are too basic for you. Especially if you found another skill (figure drawing) is more representative of what you're hoping to develop. It's probably worth digging into Scott Robertsons books, whose lessons get into the granular details of certain technical skills that Drawabox is a primer for. Or Peter Han's or John Park's dynamic sketching lessons, that really help push the basics of Drawabox. | 1 | 14,074 | 1.928571 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24cq9r | g239ref | 1,597,856,946 | 1,597,836,605 | 27 | 11 | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | I started a few weeks ago and it honestly keeps me going mostly because I stream doing my homeworks 1 hour before actually going to play games. I feel like I am a total clumsy person when it comes to drawing but at least I am trying and I know it will show results maybe in one year from now. | 1 | 20,341 | 2.454545 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23rqct | g24cq9r | 1,597,846,887 | 1,597,856,946 | 11 | 27 | If you're bored you need to find something that interests you. That means researching a new technique that interests you. What do you specifically want to improve? What do you specifically want to learn to do? For example, I love paintings of sunsets that just seem so bright they naturally make you squint. That's a natural phenomenon of painting and I think that's absolutely fascinating. So I've been researching all about light and color and how to get that effect and it's so interesting. You just have to find something in art that interests you and motivates you to improve. Drawing a box may not be for you. Think about your goals and what you want to achieve. Getting "better at drawing" isn't a specific goal, you have to break it down to what techniques you want to learn. | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | 0 | 10,059 | 2.454545 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240xy0 | g24cq9r | 1,597,851,342 | 1,597,856,946 | 11 | 27 | honestly, yeah. the dab curriculum is incredibly boring. it takes something that should be fun and turns it into these dry and tedious exercises. really wonder how many % of the ppl make it through. don’t think of it as “learning.” do it because you want to. pick something simple that interests you — anything that makes you think “that would be fun to draw” hell, even copy someone else’s drawing or photo you think is cool — just make sure to credit. yeah its gonna be terrible the first time, but as long as youre getting mileage under your pencil, you WILL improve. but YOU GOTTA KEEP DOING IT. there’s no way around that. once you start doing, then you may want to return these drills to try to learn the techniques more formally. you’ll be much more motivated because you’ll understand why and what you want to improve on specifically. | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | 0 | 5,604 | 2.454545 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g24cq9r | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,856,946 | 9 | 27 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | 0 | 33,718 | 3 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23i3mr | g24cq9r | 1,597,842,129 | 1,597,856,946 | 8 | 27 | There are unfortunately no shortcuts. You have to build up that physical drawing mileage. Doing things over and over and over. Hammering on the fundamentals until they're second nature in your brain. Skipping ahead to the most difficult subject (human beings) is holding you back imo. I treated it like homework. I worked on it some a few days a week. I started to see progress fairly quickly. Once I left the first few basic lessons behind and started drawing plants, bugs and animals things got much, much more interesting for me. Those were things that I actually wanted to be able to draw well so it was even more motivation. During lesson 5, the animals, I was drawing every day because I like drawing animals. If you really, really want it you'll find the time. Just my 2 cents though. I was really serious about improving my fundamental drawing skills and I typically have no problem sitting down and focusing on a task so your mileage may vary. | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | 0 | 14,817 | 3.375 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24cq9r | g244u7e | 1,597,856,946 | 1,597,853,143 | 27 | 4 | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | Find what you want to focus on most and find a way to make it fun? It worked for me as I wanted to learn animal anatomy so I took an animal randomizer and mixed two animals together, not only does it portray traits of both animals but it's a fun way to stretch imagination. There might be a way to do similar with your work? | 1 | 3,803 | 6.75 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240jy4 | g24cq9r | 1,597,851,159 | 1,597,856,946 | -4 | 27 | Do whatever you want | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | 0 | 5,787 | -6.75 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24cq9r | g24ah1k | 1,597,856,946 | 1,597,855,885 | 27 | -45 | it is astonishingly boring. not even kidding i'd estimate that the completion rate for this course is below 1%. that being said i did see improvements in perspective after stuff like the 250 box challenge and the texture analysis exercise seemed to help with observation skills. so its helpful, but really really really boring. | I think you're just not the best at learning | 1 | 1,061 | -0.6 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22zae8 | g22s826 | 1,597,825,810 | 1,597,818,730 | 18 | 17 | You have to make something like DAB into a habit. The way I do it is I draw everyday for 1-2 hours. I will alternate days between drawing what I want, and doing DAB lessons. Sadly there is no secret trick to it, you just have to do it. There are definitely lessons there that I hated doing, but once you sit down and start working it gets easier. If I were you, I would just make it a rule for myself to draw everyday, and every other day I'd do DAB(or even everyday if you can also squeeze in drawing what you want). A habit will form after some time and it should become easier day by day to do it. | I used it for the first month of learning to draw, I fizzled out and went my own way doing master studies, studies from reference, reading a few books. DAB is good for as long as you can stick it, those first few lessons are gold though, especially as if you pick up, uncomfortable gives you tips along the way, It got me drawing every day, and thinking about objects as simplified geometric forms. There are other sources that do this so do what feels right for you checkout videos by Peter Han, and also the episodes on art parents / master studies from the Draftsmen podcast, Sycras videos on practice and iterative drawing... I think the more sources you absorb the better as you start to see the patterns to progress in your draftsmanship | 1 | 7,080 | 1.058824 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g22zae8 | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,825,810 | 9 | 18 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | You have to make something like DAB into a habit. The way I do it is I draw everyday for 1-2 hours. I will alternate days between drawing what I want, and doing DAB lessons. Sadly there is no secret trick to it, you just have to do it. There are definitely lessons there that I hated doing, but once you sit down and start working it gets easier. If I were you, I would just make it a rule for myself to draw everyday, and every other day I'd do DAB(or even everyday if you can also squeeze in drawing what you want). A habit will form after some time and it should become easier day by day to do it. | 0 | 2,582 | 2 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24ox0c | g23jjmn | 1,597,862,540 | 1,597,842,872 | 16 | 14 | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | Depends on what you're looking to do. Draw-a-box is something I return to when I find my line control and basic perspective are rusty. The simple exercise of turning a box on its axes is very helpful, as well playing around with organic forms and find the contour lines on organic shapes. If you think you're far enough along beyond the basics, it's like going all the way back to learn basic addition and subtraction when you're just talking about getting refamiliar with precalc or trigonometry. It's your time and energy--feel free to jettison exercises that are too basic for you. Especially if you found another skill (figure drawing) is more representative of what you're hoping to develop. It's probably worth digging into Scott Robertsons books, whose lessons get into the granular details of certain technical skills that Drawabox is a primer for. Or Peter Han's or John Park's dynamic sketching lessons, that really help push the basics of Drawabox. | 1 | 19,668 | 1.142857 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24ox0c | g239ref | 1,597,862,540 | 1,597,836,605 | 16 | 11 | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | I started a few weeks ago and it honestly keeps me going mostly because I stream doing my homeworks 1 hour before actually going to play games. I feel like I am a total clumsy person when it comes to drawing but at least I am trying and I know it will show results maybe in one year from now. | 1 | 25,935 | 1.454545 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24ox0c | g23rqct | 1,597,862,540 | 1,597,846,887 | 16 | 11 | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | If you're bored you need to find something that interests you. That means researching a new technique that interests you. What do you specifically want to improve? What do you specifically want to learn to do? For example, I love paintings of sunsets that just seem so bright they naturally make you squint. That's a natural phenomenon of painting and I think that's absolutely fascinating. So I've been researching all about light and color and how to get that effect and it's so interesting. You just have to find something in art that interests you and motivates you to improve. Drawing a box may not be for you. Think about your goals and what you want to achieve. Getting "better at drawing" isn't a specific goal, you have to break it down to what techniques you want to learn. | 1 | 15,653 | 1.454545 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240xy0 | g24ox0c | 1,597,851,342 | 1,597,862,540 | 11 | 16 | honestly, yeah. the dab curriculum is incredibly boring. it takes something that should be fun and turns it into these dry and tedious exercises. really wonder how many % of the ppl make it through. don’t think of it as “learning.” do it because you want to. pick something simple that interests you — anything that makes you think “that would be fun to draw” hell, even copy someone else’s drawing or photo you think is cool — just make sure to credit. yeah its gonna be terrible the first time, but as long as youre getting mileage under your pencil, you WILL improve. but YOU GOTTA KEEP DOING IT. there’s no way around that. once you start doing, then you may want to return these drills to try to learn the techniques more formally. you’ll be much more motivated because you’ll understand why and what you want to improve on specifically. | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | 0 | 11,198 | 1.454545 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g24ox0c | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,862,540 | 9 | 16 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | 0 | 39,312 | 1.777778 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24ox0c | g23i3mr | 1,597,862,540 | 1,597,842,129 | 16 | 8 | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | There are unfortunately no shortcuts. You have to build up that physical drawing mileage. Doing things over and over and over. Hammering on the fundamentals until they're second nature in your brain. Skipping ahead to the most difficult subject (human beings) is holding you back imo. I treated it like homework. I worked on it some a few days a week. I started to see progress fairly quickly. Once I left the first few basic lessons behind and started drawing plants, bugs and animals things got much, much more interesting for me. Those were things that I actually wanted to be able to draw well so it was even more motivation. During lesson 5, the animals, I was drawing every day because I like drawing animals. If you really, really want it you'll find the time. Just my 2 cents though. I was really serious about improving my fundamental drawing skills and I typically have no problem sitting down and focusing on a task so your mileage may vary. | 1 | 20,411 | 2 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24lgix | g24ox0c | 1,597,861,024 | 1,597,862,540 | 8 | 16 | i do a combination of draw a box with spending time on things I enjoy. I make a list periodically of the exercises i’m on and do a little bit as a warm up each time I draw before moving to something interesting. by kicking in the five minute rule (do it for five minutes and then draw what you really want to draw) you’ll still notice improvements | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | 0 | 1,516 | 2 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g244u7e | g24ox0c | 1,597,853,143 | 1,597,862,540 | 4 | 16 | Find what you want to focus on most and find a way to make it fun? It worked for me as I wanted to learn animal anatomy so I took an animal randomizer and mixed two animals together, not only does it portray traits of both animals but it's a fun way to stretch imagination. There might be a way to do similar with your work? | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | 0 | 9,397 | 4 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24ox0c | g240jy4 | 1,597,862,540 | 1,597,851,159 | 16 | -4 | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | Do whatever you want | 1 | 11,381 | -4 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24kt82 | g24ox0c | 1,597,860,736 | 1,597,862,540 | -21 | 16 | I'll be downvoted as hell, but not only drawabox is boring, drawing is an exclusive skill learnable only if you are a child with 5 years and likes drawing. You will have lots of time to draw, you will learn faster everything cause your fresh brain, no responsabilities,... | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | 0 | 1,804 | -0.761905 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24ah1k | g24ox0c | 1,597,855,885 | 1,597,862,540 | -45 | 16 | I think you're just not the best at learning | I fell in a similar pitfall. I rushed my way through Drawabox until I hit a wall and burned out at the doorstep of lesson 4. I had a block and couldn't draw for a couple of months, to break the ice I bought a colour book to remember how fun and relaxing art is. Look, it will be boring as long as you do it to just become "good". Drawabox is just a phase, the first few steps you take on a long journey. If you don't want to fall for the same mistakes you have to follow the 50% rule as much as possible, Drawabox IS boring and fun time should be something you do outside of the lessons. | 0 | 6,655 | -0.355556 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23jjmn | g23ol2c | 1,597,842,872 | 1,597,845,330 | 14 | 16 | Depends on what you're looking to do. Draw-a-box is something I return to when I find my line control and basic perspective are rusty. The simple exercise of turning a box on its axes is very helpful, as well playing around with organic forms and find the contour lines on organic shapes. If you think you're far enough along beyond the basics, it's like going all the way back to learn basic addition and subtraction when you're just talking about getting refamiliar with precalc or trigonometry. It's your time and energy--feel free to jettison exercises that are too basic for you. Especially if you found another skill (figure drawing) is more representative of what you're hoping to develop. It's probably worth digging into Scott Robertsons books, whose lessons get into the granular details of certain technical skills that Drawabox is a primer for. Or Peter Han's or John Park's dynamic sketching lessons, that really help push the basics of Drawabox. | I actually just quit DaB. The first few exercises seemed to help a lot, but I found I was bored with it somewhere in the middle of the boxes exercise. The way perspective is taught seemed confusing to me (on the rotated boxes exercise, I felt like I was just guessing where the back of the box was and didn't feel like I really saw an explanation on how to derive that once the box was rotated). I found myself procrastinating doing art, feeling guilty when I did more 'fun' sketches and paintings, and felt like I had to pump myself up to sit there and draw 5 boxes per study, 3 studies per page... and I felt like I was getting diminishing returns on line accuracy. My box perspectives and corrections weren't really improving between studies. For me, I think line accuracy, ellipse accuracy, lack of wobble, etc just need more general mileage. I found myself wishing I was done with the exercises so I could move on already and begin looking at a few books I'd picked up. So yesterday, I quit. Art is an important hobby for me, but it isn't my only hobby. I don't want to feel like I'm 'grinding' or suffering through it because I know I will get burnt out and quit forever. | 0 | 2,458 | 1.142857 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g239ref | g23ol2c | 1,597,836,605 | 1,597,845,330 | 11 | 16 | I started a few weeks ago and it honestly keeps me going mostly because I stream doing my homeworks 1 hour before actually going to play games. I feel like I am a total clumsy person when it comes to drawing but at least I am trying and I know it will show results maybe in one year from now. | I actually just quit DaB. The first few exercises seemed to help a lot, but I found I was bored with it somewhere in the middle of the boxes exercise. The way perspective is taught seemed confusing to me (on the rotated boxes exercise, I felt like I was just guessing where the back of the box was and didn't feel like I really saw an explanation on how to derive that once the box was rotated). I found myself procrastinating doing art, feeling guilty when I did more 'fun' sketches and paintings, and felt like I had to pump myself up to sit there and draw 5 boxes per study, 3 studies per page... and I felt like I was getting diminishing returns on line accuracy. My box perspectives and corrections weren't really improving between studies. For me, I think line accuracy, ellipse accuracy, lack of wobble, etc just need more general mileage. I found myself wishing I was done with the exercises so I could move on already and begin looking at a few books I'd picked up. So yesterday, I quit. Art is an important hobby for me, but it isn't my only hobby. I don't want to feel like I'm 'grinding' or suffering through it because I know I will get burnt out and quit forever. | 0 | 8,725 | 1.454545 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g23ol2c | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,845,330 | 9 | 16 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | I actually just quit DaB. The first few exercises seemed to help a lot, but I found I was bored with it somewhere in the middle of the boxes exercise. The way perspective is taught seemed confusing to me (on the rotated boxes exercise, I felt like I was just guessing where the back of the box was and didn't feel like I really saw an explanation on how to derive that once the box was rotated). I found myself procrastinating doing art, feeling guilty when I did more 'fun' sketches and paintings, and felt like I had to pump myself up to sit there and draw 5 boxes per study, 3 studies per page... and I felt like I was getting diminishing returns on line accuracy. My box perspectives and corrections weren't really improving between studies. For me, I think line accuracy, ellipse accuracy, lack of wobble, etc just need more general mileage. I found myself wishing I was done with the exercises so I could move on already and begin looking at a few books I'd picked up. So yesterday, I quit. Art is an important hobby for me, but it isn't my only hobby. I don't want to feel like I'm 'grinding' or suffering through it because I know I will get burnt out and quit forever. | 0 | 22,102 | 1.777778 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23i3mr | g23ol2c | 1,597,842,129 | 1,597,845,330 | 8 | 16 | There are unfortunately no shortcuts. You have to build up that physical drawing mileage. Doing things over and over and over. Hammering on the fundamentals until they're second nature in your brain. Skipping ahead to the most difficult subject (human beings) is holding you back imo. I treated it like homework. I worked on it some a few days a week. I started to see progress fairly quickly. Once I left the first few basic lessons behind and started drawing plants, bugs and animals things got much, much more interesting for me. Those were things that I actually wanted to be able to draw well so it was even more motivation. During lesson 5, the animals, I was drawing every day because I like drawing animals. If you really, really want it you'll find the time. Just my 2 cents though. I was really serious about improving my fundamental drawing skills and I typically have no problem sitting down and focusing on a task so your mileage may vary. | I actually just quit DaB. The first few exercises seemed to help a lot, but I found I was bored with it somewhere in the middle of the boxes exercise. The way perspective is taught seemed confusing to me (on the rotated boxes exercise, I felt like I was just guessing where the back of the box was and didn't feel like I really saw an explanation on how to derive that once the box was rotated). I found myself procrastinating doing art, feeling guilty when I did more 'fun' sketches and paintings, and felt like I had to pump myself up to sit there and draw 5 boxes per study, 3 studies per page... and I felt like I was getting diminishing returns on line accuracy. My box perspectives and corrections weren't really improving between studies. For me, I think line accuracy, ellipse accuracy, lack of wobble, etc just need more general mileage. I found myself wishing I was done with the exercises so I could move on already and begin looking at a few books I'd picked up. So yesterday, I quit. Art is an important hobby for me, but it isn't my only hobby. I don't want to feel like I'm 'grinding' or suffering through it because I know I will get burnt out and quit forever. | 0 | 3,201 | 2 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23jjmn | g239ref | 1,597,842,872 | 1,597,836,605 | 14 | 11 | Depends on what you're looking to do. Draw-a-box is something I return to when I find my line control and basic perspective are rusty. The simple exercise of turning a box on its axes is very helpful, as well playing around with organic forms and find the contour lines on organic shapes. If you think you're far enough along beyond the basics, it's like going all the way back to learn basic addition and subtraction when you're just talking about getting refamiliar with precalc or trigonometry. It's your time and energy--feel free to jettison exercises that are too basic for you. Especially if you found another skill (figure drawing) is more representative of what you're hoping to develop. It's probably worth digging into Scott Robertsons books, whose lessons get into the granular details of certain technical skills that Drawabox is a primer for. Or Peter Han's or John Park's dynamic sketching lessons, that really help push the basics of Drawabox. | I started a few weeks ago and it honestly keeps me going mostly because I stream doing my homeworks 1 hour before actually going to play games. I feel like I am a total clumsy person when it comes to drawing but at least I am trying and I know it will show results maybe in one year from now. | 1 | 6,267 | 1.272727 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23jjmn | g22wu2b | 1,597,842,872 | 1,597,823,228 | 14 | 9 | Depends on what you're looking to do. Draw-a-box is something I return to when I find my line control and basic perspective are rusty. The simple exercise of turning a box on its axes is very helpful, as well playing around with organic forms and find the contour lines on organic shapes. If you think you're far enough along beyond the basics, it's like going all the way back to learn basic addition and subtraction when you're just talking about getting refamiliar with precalc or trigonometry. It's your time and energy--feel free to jettison exercises that are too basic for you. Especially if you found another skill (figure drawing) is more representative of what you're hoping to develop. It's probably worth digging into Scott Robertsons books, whose lessons get into the granular details of certain technical skills that Drawabox is a primer for. Or Peter Han's or John Park's dynamic sketching lessons, that really help push the basics of Drawabox. | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | 1 | 19,644 | 1.555556 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23jjmn | g23i3mr | 1,597,842,872 | 1,597,842,129 | 14 | 8 | Depends on what you're looking to do. Draw-a-box is something I return to when I find my line control and basic perspective are rusty. The simple exercise of turning a box on its axes is very helpful, as well playing around with organic forms and find the contour lines on organic shapes. If you think you're far enough along beyond the basics, it's like going all the way back to learn basic addition and subtraction when you're just talking about getting refamiliar with precalc or trigonometry. It's your time and energy--feel free to jettison exercises that are too basic for you. Especially if you found another skill (figure drawing) is more representative of what you're hoping to develop. It's probably worth digging into Scott Robertsons books, whose lessons get into the granular details of certain technical skills that Drawabox is a primer for. Or Peter Han's or John Park's dynamic sketching lessons, that really help push the basics of Drawabox. | There are unfortunately no shortcuts. You have to build up that physical drawing mileage. Doing things over and over and over. Hammering on the fundamentals until they're second nature in your brain. Skipping ahead to the most difficult subject (human beings) is holding you back imo. I treated it like homework. I worked on it some a few days a week. I started to see progress fairly quickly. Once I left the first few basic lessons behind and started drawing plants, bugs and animals things got much, much more interesting for me. Those were things that I actually wanted to be able to draw well so it was even more motivation. During lesson 5, the animals, I was drawing every day because I like drawing animals. If you really, really want it you'll find the time. Just my 2 cents though. I was really serious about improving my fundamental drawing skills and I typically have no problem sitting down and focusing on a task so your mileage may vary. | 1 | 743 | 1.75 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g239ref | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,836,605 | 9 | 11 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | I started a few weeks ago and it honestly keeps me going mostly because I stream doing my homeworks 1 hour before actually going to play games. I feel like I am a total clumsy person when it comes to drawing but at least I am trying and I know it will show results maybe in one year from now. | 0 | 13,377 | 1.222222 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g23rqct | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,846,887 | 9 | 11 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | If you're bored you need to find something that interests you. That means researching a new technique that interests you. What do you specifically want to improve? What do you specifically want to learn to do? For example, I love paintings of sunsets that just seem so bright they naturally make you squint. That's a natural phenomenon of painting and I think that's absolutely fascinating. So I've been researching all about light and color and how to get that effect and it's so interesting. You just have to find something in art that interests you and motivates you to improve. Drawing a box may not be for you. Think about your goals and what you want to achieve. Getting "better at drawing" isn't a specific goal, you have to break it down to what techniques you want to learn. | 0 | 23,659 | 1.222222 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g23i3mr | g23rqct | 1,597,842,129 | 1,597,846,887 | 8 | 11 | There are unfortunately no shortcuts. You have to build up that physical drawing mileage. Doing things over and over and over. Hammering on the fundamentals until they're second nature in your brain. Skipping ahead to the most difficult subject (human beings) is holding you back imo. I treated it like homework. I worked on it some a few days a week. I started to see progress fairly quickly. Once I left the first few basic lessons behind and started drawing plants, bugs and animals things got much, much more interesting for me. Those were things that I actually wanted to be able to draw well so it was even more motivation. During lesson 5, the animals, I was drawing every day because I like drawing animals. If you really, really want it you'll find the time. Just my 2 cents though. I was really serious about improving my fundamental drawing skills and I typically have no problem sitting down and focusing on a task so your mileage may vary. | If you're bored you need to find something that interests you. That means researching a new technique that interests you. What do you specifically want to improve? What do you specifically want to learn to do? For example, I love paintings of sunsets that just seem so bright they naturally make you squint. That's a natural phenomenon of painting and I think that's absolutely fascinating. So I've been researching all about light and color and how to get that effect and it's so interesting. You just have to find something in art that interests you and motivates you to improve. Drawing a box may not be for you. Think about your goals and what you want to achieve. Getting "better at drawing" isn't a specific goal, you have to break it down to what techniques you want to learn. | 0 | 4,758 | 1.375 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g22wu2b | g240xy0 | 1,597,823,228 | 1,597,851,342 | 9 | 11 | DAB can be tedious. I only do it twice a week and I've been making steady progress. For me the key was to not make it the focus of my studies (although I did for lesson 1 and half of lesson 2 I think because I was just starting out drawing.) I do figure drawing, anatomy study, and digital painting as well now. | honestly, yeah. the dab curriculum is incredibly boring. it takes something that should be fun and turns it into these dry and tedious exercises. really wonder how many % of the ppl make it through. don’t think of it as “learning.” do it because you want to. pick something simple that interests you — anything that makes you think “that would be fun to draw” hell, even copy someone else’s drawing or photo you think is cool — just make sure to credit. yeah its gonna be terrible the first time, but as long as youre getting mileage under your pencil, you WILL improve. but YOU GOTTA KEEP DOING IT. there’s no way around that. once you start doing, then you may want to return these drills to try to learn the techniques more formally. you’ll be much more motivated because you’ll understand why and what you want to improve on specifically. | 0 | 28,114 | 1.222222 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240xy0 | g23i3mr | 1,597,851,342 | 1,597,842,129 | 11 | 8 | honestly, yeah. the dab curriculum is incredibly boring. it takes something that should be fun and turns it into these dry and tedious exercises. really wonder how many % of the ppl make it through. don’t think of it as “learning.” do it because you want to. pick something simple that interests you — anything that makes you think “that would be fun to draw” hell, even copy someone else’s drawing or photo you think is cool — just make sure to credit. yeah its gonna be terrible the first time, but as long as youre getting mileage under your pencil, you WILL improve. but YOU GOTTA KEEP DOING IT. there’s no way around that. once you start doing, then you may want to return these drills to try to learn the techniques more formally. you’ll be much more motivated because you’ll understand why and what you want to improve on specifically. | There are unfortunately no shortcuts. You have to build up that physical drawing mileage. Doing things over and over and over. Hammering on the fundamentals until they're second nature in your brain. Skipping ahead to the most difficult subject (human beings) is holding you back imo. I treated it like homework. I worked on it some a few days a week. I started to see progress fairly quickly. Once I left the first few basic lessons behind and started drawing plants, bugs and animals things got much, much more interesting for me. Those were things that I actually wanted to be able to draw well so it was even more motivation. During lesson 5, the animals, I was drawing every day because I like drawing animals. If you really, really want it you'll find the time. Just my 2 cents though. I was really serious about improving my fundamental drawing skills and I typically have no problem sitting down and focusing on a task so your mileage may vary. | 1 | 9,213 | 1.375 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240jy4 | g240xy0 | 1,597,851,159 | 1,597,851,342 | -4 | 11 | Do whatever you want | honestly, yeah. the dab curriculum is incredibly boring. it takes something that should be fun and turns it into these dry and tedious exercises. really wonder how many % of the ppl make it through. don’t think of it as “learning.” do it because you want to. pick something simple that interests you — anything that makes you think “that would be fun to draw” hell, even copy someone else’s drawing or photo you think is cool — just make sure to credit. yeah its gonna be terrible the first time, but as long as youre getting mileage under your pencil, you WILL improve. but YOU GOTTA KEEP DOING IT. there’s no way around that. once you start doing, then you may want to return these drills to try to learn the techniques more formally. you’ll be much more motivated because you’ll understand why and what you want to improve on specifically. | 0 | 183 | -2.75 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g244u7e | g24lgix | 1,597,853,143 | 1,597,861,024 | 4 | 8 | Find what you want to focus on most and find a way to make it fun? It worked for me as I wanted to learn animal anatomy so I took an animal randomizer and mixed two animals together, not only does it portray traits of both animals but it's a fun way to stretch imagination. There might be a way to do similar with your work? | i do a combination of draw a box with spending time on things I enjoy. I make a list periodically of the exercises i’m on and do a little bit as a warm up each time I draw before moving to something interesting. by kicking in the five minute rule (do it for five minutes and then draw what you really want to draw) you’ll still notice improvements | 0 | 7,881 | 2 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240jy4 | g24lgix | 1,597,851,159 | 1,597,861,024 | -4 | 8 | Do whatever you want | i do a combination of draw a box with spending time on things I enjoy. I make a list periodically of the exercises i’m on and do a little bit as a warm up each time I draw before moving to something interesting. by kicking in the five minute rule (do it for five minutes and then draw what you really want to draw) you’ll still notice improvements | 0 | 9,865 | -2 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24kt82 | g24lgix | 1,597,860,736 | 1,597,861,024 | -21 | 8 | I'll be downvoted as hell, but not only drawabox is boring, drawing is an exclusive skill learnable only if you are a child with 5 years and likes drawing. You will have lots of time to draw, you will learn faster everything cause your fresh brain, no responsabilities,... | i do a combination of draw a box with spending time on things I enjoy. I make a list periodically of the exercises i’m on and do a little bit as a warm up each time I draw before moving to something interesting. by kicking in the five minute rule (do it for five minutes and then draw what you really want to draw) you’ll still notice improvements | 0 | 288 | -0.380952 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24lgix | g24ah1k | 1,597,861,024 | 1,597,855,885 | 8 | -45 | i do a combination of draw a box with spending time on things I enjoy. I make a list periodically of the exercises i’m on and do a little bit as a warm up each time I draw before moving to something interesting. by kicking in the five minute rule (do it for five minutes and then draw what you really want to draw) you’ll still notice improvements | I think you're just not the best at learning | 1 | 5,139 | -0.177778 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g25x40u | g244u7e | 1,597,884,518 | 1,597,853,143 | 7 | 4 | Do you draw every day? I have been warming up with drawabox and while I do that I think about what I want to draw that day. Usually spend about 15 minutes. So for example, in my sketchbook I have Lesson 1: Lines 8/18/20. The focus is drawing from the shoulder so i also have "shoulder" written at the top. I did badly, so I wrote that lesson on the next blank page in my book with tomorrow's date. I'll try the lesson again tomorrow because I know I need the work, but I'm bored as shit with it for now. So I go to the next blank page and do some free sketching of my own to finish up my session for the evening and end feeling satisfied that I have both learned and created. If I ever finish, it'll be kinda neat to flip through the sketchbook and see early lessons next to the art i was creating at that stage of learning. Hopefully I'll notice skill progress in my personal drawings as I advance through the lessons. | Find what you want to focus on most and find a way to make it fun? It worked for me as I wanted to learn animal anatomy so I took an animal randomizer and mixed two animals together, not only does it portray traits of both animals but it's a fun way to stretch imagination. There might be a way to do similar with your work? | 1 | 31,375 | 1.75 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g25x40u | g240jy4 | 1,597,884,518 | 1,597,851,159 | 7 | -4 | Do you draw every day? I have been warming up with drawabox and while I do that I think about what I want to draw that day. Usually spend about 15 minutes. So for example, in my sketchbook I have Lesson 1: Lines 8/18/20. The focus is drawing from the shoulder so i also have "shoulder" written at the top. I did badly, so I wrote that lesson on the next blank page in my book with tomorrow's date. I'll try the lesson again tomorrow because I know I need the work, but I'm bored as shit with it for now. So I go to the next blank page and do some free sketching of my own to finish up my session for the evening and end feeling satisfied that I have both learned and created. If I ever finish, it'll be kinda neat to flip through the sketchbook and see early lessons next to the art i was creating at that stage of learning. Hopefully I'll notice skill progress in my personal drawings as I advance through the lessons. | Do whatever you want | 1 | 33,359 | -1.75 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24kt82 | g25x40u | 1,597,860,736 | 1,597,884,518 | -21 | 7 | I'll be downvoted as hell, but not only drawabox is boring, drawing is an exclusive skill learnable only if you are a child with 5 years and likes drawing. You will have lots of time to draw, you will learn faster everything cause your fresh brain, no responsabilities,... | Do you draw every day? I have been warming up with drawabox and while I do that I think about what I want to draw that day. Usually spend about 15 minutes. So for example, in my sketchbook I have Lesson 1: Lines 8/18/20. The focus is drawing from the shoulder so i also have "shoulder" written at the top. I did badly, so I wrote that lesson on the next blank page in my book with tomorrow's date. I'll try the lesson again tomorrow because I know I need the work, but I'm bored as shit with it for now. So I go to the next blank page and do some free sketching of my own to finish up my session for the evening and end feeling satisfied that I have both learned and created. If I ever finish, it'll be kinda neat to flip through the sketchbook and see early lessons next to the art i was creating at that stage of learning. Hopefully I'll notice skill progress in my personal drawings as I advance through the lessons. | 0 | 23,782 | -0.333333 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g25x40u | g24ah1k | 1,597,884,518 | 1,597,855,885 | 7 | -45 | Do you draw every day? I have been warming up with drawabox and while I do that I think about what I want to draw that day. Usually spend about 15 minutes. So for example, in my sketchbook I have Lesson 1: Lines 8/18/20. The focus is drawing from the shoulder so i also have "shoulder" written at the top. I did badly, so I wrote that lesson on the next blank page in my book with tomorrow's date. I'll try the lesson again tomorrow because I know I need the work, but I'm bored as shit with it for now. So I go to the next blank page and do some free sketching of my own to finish up my session for the evening and end feeling satisfied that I have both learned and created. If I ever finish, it'll be kinda neat to flip through the sketchbook and see early lessons next to the art i was creating at that stage of learning. Hopefully I'll notice skill progress in my personal drawings as I advance through the lessons. | I think you're just not the best at learning | 1 | 28,633 | -0.155556 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g2d0qv8 | g244u7e | 1,598,040,337 | 1,597,853,143 | 5 | 4 | If you want to get good at anything you need to get over the initial slump of boredom. I'm trying to write everyday to get into the habit of just getting words down. I figure if I can get the discipline in, then I can apply that lifestyle to learning how to draw/understanding art. | Find what you want to focus on most and find a way to make it fun? It worked for me as I wanted to learn animal anatomy so I took an animal randomizer and mixed two animals together, not only does it portray traits of both animals but it's a fun way to stretch imagination. There might be a way to do similar with your work? | 1 | 187,194 | 1.25 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240jy4 | g2d0qv8 | 1,597,851,159 | 1,598,040,337 | -4 | 5 | Do whatever you want | If you want to get good at anything you need to get over the initial slump of boredom. I'm trying to write everyday to get into the habit of just getting words down. I figure if I can get the discipline in, then I can apply that lifestyle to learning how to draw/understanding art. | 0 | 189,178 | -1.25 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g2d0qv8 | g24kt82 | 1,598,040,337 | 1,597,860,736 | 5 | -21 | If you want to get good at anything you need to get over the initial slump of boredom. I'm trying to write everyday to get into the habit of just getting words down. I figure if I can get the discipline in, then I can apply that lifestyle to learning how to draw/understanding art. | I'll be downvoted as hell, but not only drawabox is boring, drawing is an exclusive skill learnable only if you are a child with 5 years and likes drawing. You will have lots of time to draw, you will learn faster everything cause your fresh brain, no responsabilities,... | 1 | 179,601 | -0.238095 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g2d0qv8 | g24ah1k | 1,598,040,337 | 1,597,855,885 | 5 | -45 | If you want to get good at anything you need to get over the initial slump of boredom. I'm trying to write everyday to get into the habit of just getting words down. I figure if I can get the discipline in, then I can apply that lifestyle to learning how to draw/understanding art. | I think you're just not the best at learning | 1 | 184,452 | -0.111111 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g240jy4 | g244u7e | 1,597,851,159 | 1,597,853,143 | -4 | 4 | Do whatever you want | Find what you want to focus on most and find a way to make it fun? It worked for me as I wanted to learn animal anatomy so I took an animal randomizer and mixed two animals together, not only does it portray traits of both animals but it's a fun way to stretch imagination. There might be a way to do similar with your work? | 0 | 1,984 | -1 | ||
icfalb | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | How boring is drawabox? Should I return back to it, if I already gave up on it. A long time ago I tried to do drawabox, i gave up on it and I went straight to figure drawing. I did make some progress in figure drawing, but i forgot everything after a period of mental blocks and just a lack of motivation. I know how to draw with my shoulder, I know how to draw some basic shapes, i don't know anything other than that. The reason I gave up is the same reason I gave up learning from art books, it's just boring and I don't know what to focus on or study. I can't force my self to learn something, it literally gives me mental blocks. Should i try to do drawabox again, I want to get better at art but I fear I'll just give up again. | g24kt82 | g24ah1k | 1,597,860,736 | 1,597,855,885 | -21 | -45 | I'll be downvoted as hell, but not only drawabox is boring, drawing is an exclusive skill learnable only if you are a child with 5 years and likes drawing. You will have lots of time to draw, you will learn faster everything cause your fresh brain, no responsabilities,... | I think you're just not the best at learning | 1 | 4,851 | 0.466667 | ||
vp04my | artfundamentals_train | 0.91 | can i use 0.3mm Tip Pen Instead of 0.4 or 0.5. The Country where i live in has a company which produces only 0.3mm Pointer. so its cheap for me. but if i were to get sakura pen or steadliner. its expensive for me.i just want to be free in drawing instead of worrying about my pen ink getting empty | ieipo3m | iegi8oh | 1,656,720,915 | 1,656,687,019 | 19 | 17 | it’s absolutely fine. don’t worry about it! the miniscule difference in line weight doesn’t make a difference compared to if you were constantly worried about wasting ink. work within your means and use whatever tools you have available | If you are going to submit it here for review, and not pay for a professional review, I think it would not matter. I am using .2 to .45 because those are the pens I already have, and they are working fine. | 1 | 33,896 | 1.117647 |
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