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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
Yes
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp0q7f2uH-c A must watch
Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Check out my instagram at MacGuffDraws and see what a year of dedicated practice will do. It was always my dream to draw 90s style comic books and I always thought "I don't have enough talent to draw those kinds of things" but with tons of practice, I got myself to a point where I can honestly say "I know how to draw." Started in my late 30s. ANYONE can learn how to draw. Drawing isn't a talent thing. It's a hard work and consistent practice thing.
this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
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Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
Imagination is like motivation. People believe that these things come first and should carry you through it and if you don't have it then it's not for you, or you aren't talented. However, in reality while imagination and motivation might get you started you need to build habits and skills so that when motivation comes and your imagination runs wild you are able to actually take advantage of it.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp0q7f2uH-c A must watch
Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Ok. Let me tell you, I’m 35 years old. I started to learn two months ago because the pandemic interrupted all of my projects. All of my life I have contemplated art with admiration as if it was some sort of super power I’d never have access to. These two months have made me improve a lot, to the point I regret having missed this from my life for so long. As a musician, let me tell you that sometimes I get the: I’d give everything to play the piano like you do. And I’d think: well, I have given everything! I spent hours and hours and hours learning how to do this and failing miserably, and at some point whatever discipline you choose starts to give you back. To believe in talent is an excuse for not putting in the work needed. It’s like thinking about Mozart and Beethoven. No doubt in my mind there are some prodigies around the world, but work will bring out the best artist you can be, and what you can express through it will be particular and personal if you let yourself go of your fear of failure. My advice to you is: Practice with specific goals in mind. That makes your progress faster. Allow yourself to draw for pleasure 50% of the time, and devote to specific studying the other half. (This is the draw a box approach. ) Work with a reference. Don’t compare your progress with anyone else’s. Find out your own strengths and limitations. For me, draw a box was an excellent choice to give me some structure and making me understand objects in 3D , I still have a long way to go. But I feel closer to it than I ever was. There are so many places to learn from, that you can feel overwhelmed. Draw a box in that sense, is ideal. It is organized and well thought. Very concrete! No shortcuts friend. You are up for a marvelous adventure, you have already felt the call! Good luck! excuse my english, not my first language! Edit: I wanted to add something about imagination. We all have it. When we are children we easily play and recreate situations. The thing is we believed in whatever game we were playing. To recover that , imagination needs its juice! Start to look at your own world and don’t judge what fascinates you. Think of impossible combinations and points of view. Every object has a story.
this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Imagination is like motivation. People believe that these things come first and should carry you through it and if you don't have it then it's not for you, or you aren't talented. However, in reality while imagination and motivation might get you started you need to build habits and skills so that when motivation comes and your imagination runs wild you are able to actually take advantage of it.
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
Maybe a glimpse in the opposite situation might also motivate you a bit: I've always been told that I was talented at drawing. And I did notice that without effort I was better at it than most around me. But I've also always been very self critical and fear has paralyzed me for months at a time. So the most eye opening experience was comparing myself to a good friend of mine, also passionate in drawing animals. At the start, I was better than her. Maybe I was at 4/10 and she was at 0/10. But my fear slowed me down a lot, while she just kept on drawing. Now I'm at 5/10 and she's at 7/10. In one year she has progressed more than I have in 8. Starting talent might help a bit, but it's almost meaningless. If you manage to work on it and face your fear, you will improve. (btw, DaB has helped me a lot with fear too; the construction approach has many advantages, including the fact that if you get it right in the very first 1-2 minutes, your drawing will very likely be a pleasant journey rather than an exercise in frustration)
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Imagination is like motivation. People believe that these things come first and should carry you through it and if you don't have it then it's not for you, or you aren't talented. However, in reality while imagination and motivation might get you started you need to build habits and skills so that when motivation comes and your imagination runs wild you are able to actually take advantage of it.
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
It's a skill. Not a talent.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
Yes
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp0q7f2uH-c A must watch
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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It's a skill. Not a talent.
this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
Imagination is like motivation. People believe that these things come first and should carry you through it and if you don't have it then it's not for you, or you aren't talented. However, in reality while imagination and motivation might get you started you need to build habits and skills so that when motivation comes and your imagination runs wild you are able to actually take advantage of it.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes
I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
I believe I know exactly where you are coming from. I feel like those doubts are very common. Whatever you do, don't be like me. I was in the position where I let those doubts make me quit. Don't. be. like. me. I would be so much better today if I had stuck with it. I was suicidal for a long time. I was absolutely miserable, numb with no genuine interest in anything, swimming in a world of perpetual chores and superficial distractions. The one thing that stuck with me, that could still trigger the slightest bit of hope was the idea of getting good at drawing. I realized either I needed to actually get something out of this life or I would wind up ending it myself. All that may seem a bit melodramatic but it is what it is. So, if drawing seems like something that you really want to be able to do, convincing yourself to "give up" won't make that desire go away. Convincing yourself to give up on what you want out of your life is a bad road to start down. It just ends up eating at you and leaves you miserable. Once you realize that, your only other option is to keep trying and moving forward. Once you realize that, where other people are compared to you just doesn't seem to matter anymore. This video, and particularly the part it timestamps, really drove a lot of this home for me. However old you may be, I hope that is a kick in the pants and warns you off of giving up. I am 33 now. I have been at this about 9 months now and I have seen improvements. To try to address your post more directly: Your imagination is like a muscle. Drawing is a great way to train it. Having no creativity often comes from being too critical with what you allow yourself to consider. That is one reason why depression tends to smother creativity. Check out automatic drawing, meditation, and just trying to cultivate a more understanding outlook toward yourself. Allow yourself to make bad drawings. We all make them. People tend to only share what they feel are successes. It gives the people on the outside unreasonable expectations for themselves. You don't know how much practice other people have actually put it. Often they don't truly realize the full extent either. The human brain is horrible at tracking things like that. Studies have been made to try to nail down how long it takes to master things and it pretty reliably came out to about 10,000 hours of dedicated, active study. If that amount of time discourages you then remember, those hours are going to pass regardless. You could be using them persuing what you want from your life. And like I said before, we are horrible at keeping time in perspective, particularly when having fun. We can use that in our favor. That is why the most important thing is staying positive, enjoying the process, and getting those dedicated hours of study in. This video has a way of kicking my lame excuses to the curb and refocuses me on what is really important. I am 100% confident that, barring some tragic genetic disorders, anyone can improve and learn to draw.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
Imagination is like motivation. People believe that these things come first and should carry you through it and if you don't have it then it's not for you, or you aren't talented. However, in reality while imagination and motivation might get you started you need to build habits and skills so that when motivation comes and your imagination runs wild you are able to actually take advantage of it.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
Yes
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g0784a5
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Any skill can be learnt by anyone.Having the affinity/talent helps and boosts them for a bit but to keep on going further for being a professional , every individual must practice like everyone else.
this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
Imagination is like motivation. People believe that these things come first and should carry you through it and if you don't have it then it's not for you, or you aren't talented. However, in reality while imagination and motivation might get you started you need to build habits and skills so that when motivation comes and your imagination runs wild you are able to actually take advantage of it.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
Drawing is a skill, not a talent. Imagination can be a talent, but it's also something you can grow -- feed it interesting things and stretch it with challenges. Which is a long way to say yes, of course anyone can learn to draw with sufficient practice. Especially with the technology available these days, even someone who might have physical difficulty with it could do digital art. Keep your old drawings, draw a lot, and compare periodically to see how far you've come.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g06fyym
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Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g05vw53
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yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g06s7r0
g063z4v
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g06s7r0
g06iiim
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g06s7r0
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g06s7r0
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g06s7r0
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g06s7r0
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You don't need imagination to be good at drawing. You need to accept that you need to use references like photos or IRL. Almost every artist (probably 98% as a guess) use references to learn all that stuff. How else would you learn it? If you don't want to use references is like you want to learn guitar, but you don't want to use any song/sheet music/Tabs/learning by hearing. Or you want to learn a language but you don't want to hear or read anything about that language. Essentially, by using references, you put all those lines and forms into your head, so your imagination has resources to draw from. Also, the norm is, people who are good at drawing are good at it because they practiced. There are prodigy's in every craft, but the huge majority had to work for it. And there are study's that show, that people at the top of the craft are often not those prodigy's, but people who worked really really hard to get there.
this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g07he2z
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Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
Yeah man, I started with barely being able to draw stick figures, it's been three months of constant practice and now I'm able to draw still life decently. It's absolutely possible to learn to draw. Some people are lucky enough to be born with a talent for it, but even they only get good enough to draw by practicing for hundreds of hours at first. Don't be discouraged because there are better artists, just start working and keep working hard.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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yes, you can, not everyone are already great at drawing or have that great imaginations when they first started, you don't have to pressure yourself and compare youself to others especially if you just started to learn, just take your time to learn and be patient with your progress, you don't have to rush it bud
Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Literally everyone sucked when they started. You see the results of thousands of hours of practice. You can literally find videos of people drawing with their feet because they spent thousands of hours doing it. You can be great at a lot of things granted that you are willing to put in the time
Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
There was a front page post about an Iranian woman who was massively disabled and so drew with her feet, and she made a realistic drawing. I think for the craft of drawing you'll be fine.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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You can definitely learn how to draw it’s hard but I really is a skill just like any other. I don’t know how creative you’ll be if you truly are as unimaginative as you say, but at the very least you’ll be able to draw and paint realistic studies of people, animals, landscapes, etc...
Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes but you need to understand what you are doing wrong in order to improve
Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
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Yes
Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g07he2z
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Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
Just start by copying a good photo or a screenshot from whatever movie/game you wish. You'll have a pic to aim for, if using a tablet set a grid in your program of choice and go to town trying to reproduce the original as close as you can. Pick an art book/website/YT channel to read/watch to get acquainted with art basics, terms, techniques and practice methods.
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Can ANYONE learn to draw even someone like who has sucks at it and dont have much imaginations ? As far as i can remember i always tried to draw but always everytime i was discouraged because i sucked greatly at it and didnt have much imaginations. Seing some people greatly good at it without doing much practice didnt help either. Are there people here who actually were bad and were able to improve and become somewhat decent ?
g07he2z
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Yes. Just draw. I was terrible at drawing my entire life, only recently to discover I’m not that bad (happened like an eureka after 5-6 days of drawing maybe). Your imagination does indeed improve after a couple of days allowing you to draw more freely
this book is the one for you # The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain: A Course in Enhancing Creativity and Artistic Confidence https://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195 video review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrerOv73o8
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