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[ "Do you understand why most people have a problem with things being made in china? \nI know it's easy to think it has to do with quality... but it's not really that.", ">\n\nReread the post, and see if you can't figure out what I'm saying.", ">\n\nAgreed chopstix, soy sauce and fortune cookies should be made in China.", ">\n\nYes, exactly. Things that are made in China, especially that are food related, are sent to Chinese restaurants across the World. Making those products here, just wouldn't be the same, and they wouldn't be as good quality.", ">\n\nSome things? ALL the things are made in china" ]

[ "Do you understand why most people have a problem with things being made in china? \nI know it's easy to think it has to do with quality... but it's not really that.", ">\n\nReread the post, and see if you can't figure out what I'm saying.", ">\n\nAgreed chopstix, soy sauce and fortune cookies should be made in China.", ">\n\nYes, exactly. Things that are made in China, especially that are food related, are sent to Chinese restaurants across the World. Making those products here, just wouldn't be the same, and they wouldn't be as good quality.", ">\n\nSome things? ALL the things are made in china", ">\n\nAlso, the Federative Republic of Brazil makes more coffee than any other country." ]

[ "Do you understand why most people have a problem with things being made in china? \nI know it's easy to think it has to do with quality... but it's not really that.", ">\n\nReread the post, and see if you can't figure out what I'm saying.", ">\n\nAgreed chopstix, soy sauce and fortune cookies should be made in China.", ">\n\nYes, exactly. Things that are made in China, especially that are food related, are sent to Chinese restaurants across the World. Making those products here, just wouldn't be the same, and they wouldn't be as good quality.", ">\n\nSome things? ALL the things are made in china", ">\n\nAlso, the Federative Republic of Brazil makes more coffee than any other country.", ">\n\nOkay. What about not Chinese cultural things?" ]

[ "Do you understand why most people have a problem with things being made in china? \nI know it's easy to think it has to do with quality... but it's not really that.", ">\n\nReread the post, and see if you can't figure out what I'm saying.", ">\n\nAgreed chopstix, soy sauce and fortune cookies should be made in China.", ">\n\nYes, exactly. Things that are made in China, especially that are food related, are sent to Chinese restaurants across the World. Making those products here, just wouldn't be the same, and they wouldn't be as good quality.", ">\n\nSome things? ALL the things are made in china", ">\n\nAlso, the Federative Republic of Brazil makes more coffee than any other country.", ">\n\nOkay. What about not Chinese cultural things?", ">\n\nThey still supply other things to the rest of the World, not that the rest of the World is that grateful for it. If the USA is too lazy to do it, some country has to. Might as well be the second wealthiest." ]

[ "Do you understand why most people have a problem with things being made in china? \nI know it's easy to think it has to do with quality... but it's not really that.", ">\n\nReread the post, and see if you can't figure out what I'm saying.", ">\n\nAgreed chopstix, soy sauce and fortune cookies should be made in China.", ">\n\nYes, exactly. Things that are made in China, especially that are food related, are sent to Chinese restaurants across the World. Making those products here, just wouldn't be the same, and they wouldn't be as good quality.", ">\n\nSome things? ALL the things are made in china", ">\n\nAlso, the Federative Republic of Brazil makes more coffee than any other country.", ">\n\nOkay. What about not Chinese cultural things?", ">\n\nThey still supply other things to the rest of the World, not that the rest of the World is that grateful for it. If the USA is too lazy to do it, some country has to. Might as well be the second wealthiest.", ">\n\nMight as well be the country with terrible labor and environmental laws right ?" ]

[ "Do you understand why most people have a problem with things being made in china? \nI know it's easy to think it has to do with quality... but it's not really that.", ">\n\nReread the post, and see if you can't figure out what I'm saying.", ">\n\nAgreed chopstix, soy sauce and fortune cookies should be made in China.", ">\n\nYes, exactly. Things that are made in China, especially that are food related, are sent to Chinese restaurants across the World. Making those products here, just wouldn't be the same, and they wouldn't be as good quality.", ">\n\nSome things? ALL the things are made in china", ">\n\nAlso, the Federative Republic of Brazil makes more coffee than any other country.", ">\n\nOkay. What about not Chinese cultural things?", ">\n\nThey still supply other things to the rest of the World, not that the rest of the World is that grateful for it. If the USA is too lazy to do it, some country has to. Might as well be the second wealthiest.", ">\n\nMight as well be the country with terrible labor and environmental laws right ?", ">\n\nI think people have an issue with it when almost every thing is made from china, like toy cars and a videogame controller. I don't know if it's a big thing anymore since I don't hear much complaining about it anymore but when people do complain about their like \"every thing is made from china\"" ]

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[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist ." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government ." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair", ">\n\n\"ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE GALAXY\" 🙄🙄" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair", ">\n\n\"ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE GALAXY\" 🙄🙄", ">\n\nIf you think Israel has been democratic until now, then you’ve got it all wrong. They’re just leveling up." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair", ">\n\n\"ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE GALAXY\" 🙄🙄", ">\n\nIf you think Israel has been democratic until now, then you’ve got it all wrong. They’re just leveling up.", ">\n\nIf Western leaders are getting so riled up about this reform it must be doing something right.\nEdit: Seems like I misunderstood and it's just Macron? Still, not someone with any interest in honest criticism or Israel's wellbeing.\n(4 hidden comments in thread)" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair", ">\n\n\"ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE GALAXY\" 🙄🙄", ">\n\nIf you think Israel has been democratic until now, then you’ve got it all wrong. They’re just leveling up.", ">\n\nIf Western leaders are getting so riled up about this reform it must be doing something right.\nEdit: Seems like I misunderstood and it's just Macron? Still, not someone with any interest in honest criticism or Israel's wellbeing.\n(4 hidden comments in thread)", ">\n\nDon't tell Macron about the notwithstanding clause in Canada" ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair", ">\n\n\"ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE GALAXY\" 🙄🙄", ">\n\nIf you think Israel has been democratic until now, then you’ve got it all wrong. They’re just leveling up.", ">\n\nIf Western leaders are getting so riled up about this reform it must be doing something right.\nEdit: Seems like I misunderstood and it's just Macron? Still, not someone with any interest in honest criticism or Israel's wellbeing.\n(4 hidden comments in thread)", ">\n\nDon't tell Macron about the notwithstanding clause in Canada", ">\n\nThe two are not even remotely the same.\nThe federal government in Canada has never invoked the notwithstanding clause; it's taboo federally. Invoking it would tear the country apart. Provinces would threaten the federal government. Quebec would likely leave. It's so taboo federally that when Ontario abused it this year (the current government is the only one to ever use this clause in the history of Ontario), the federal government didn't even want to talk about it, saying only that it's up to people to protest in their own province.\nThe proposed Israeli version is also not the same. The clause forces such laws to expire every year. Under the proposed changes in Israel these laws would become permanent after just two years.\nThe Israeli version is also far far more powerful!\nThe Canadian government cannot override anything the Supreme Court says with the notwithstanding clause. It's limited to Sections 2, 7 through 15 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That's a lot. But by no means everything! It cannot be used to interfere with voting, with mobility, with the structure of parliament, with the structure of the courts, or change the basic powers of the government.\nFor example. Alberta invoked the notwithstanding clause to try to strike down same sex marriage. But the court ruled they never had the power to do this in the first place, that's a federal issue. So it didn't matter that they invoked the notwithstanding clause, the Supreme Court killed their law as unconstitutional.\nThe guardrails in Canada are far higher and the notwithstanding clause is far more limited than what Israel wants to put in.\nIn Israel any government would be able to permanently override any law for any reason not limited in any way. This is would not make Israel a democracy anymore." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair", ">\n\n\"ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE GALAXY\" 🙄🙄", ">\n\nIf you think Israel has been democratic until now, then you’ve got it all wrong. They’re just leveling up.", ">\n\nIf Western leaders are getting so riled up about this reform it must be doing something right.\nEdit: Seems like I misunderstood and it's just Macron? Still, not someone with any interest in honest criticism or Israel's wellbeing.\n(4 hidden comments in thread)", ">\n\nDon't tell Macron about the notwithstanding clause in Canada", ">\n\nThe two are not even remotely the same.\nThe federal government in Canada has never invoked the notwithstanding clause; it's taboo federally. Invoking it would tear the country apart. Provinces would threaten the federal government. Quebec would likely leave. It's so taboo federally that when Ontario abused it this year (the current government is the only one to ever use this clause in the history of Ontario), the federal government didn't even want to talk about it, saying only that it's up to people to protest in their own province.\nThe proposed Israeli version is also not the same. The clause forces such laws to expire every year. Under the proposed changes in Israel these laws would become permanent after just two years.\nThe Israeli version is also far far more powerful!\nThe Canadian government cannot override anything the Supreme Court says with the notwithstanding clause. It's limited to Sections 2, 7 through 15 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That's a lot. But by no means everything! It cannot be used to interfere with voting, with mobility, with the structure of parliament, with the structure of the courts, or change the basic powers of the government.\nFor example. Alberta invoked the notwithstanding clause to try to strike down same sex marriage. But the court ruled they never had the power to do this in the first place, that's a federal issue. So it didn't matter that they invoked the notwithstanding clause, the Supreme Court killed their law as unconstitutional.\nThe guardrails in Canada are far higher and the notwithstanding clause is far more limited than what Israel wants to put in.\nIn Israel any government would be able to permanently override any law for any reason not limited in any way. This is would not make Israel a democracy anymore.", ">\n\nI am pro Palestine in the Middle East, pro Islamic AND Jewish Americans, and a person who worships Lucifer myself." ]

[ "Netanyahu is facing charges for corruption so the laws are to protect him. He should not have been able to get the role back given this fact", ">\n\nAn independant judiciary benefits nobody except everyone who isn't a corrupt, aging politican who's currently being prosecuted. /smh", ">\n\nThe American conservative model of democracy.", ">\n\nTLDR: French President Emmanuel Macron has warned Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that\nIf the planned judicial reform is adopted as it stands, France would be forced to conclude that Israel has broken away from a common understanding of democracy.\nThis warning comes as financial institutions and leading economists have raised concerns that the overhaul could harm Israel financially.\nUS Secretary of State Antony Blinken also touted the importance of democracy during his recent visit to Israel and appeared to intervene in the domestic argument around the reform, suggesting it should be a non-partisan process led by President Isaac Herzog.", ">\n\nHold up are they dismantling judiciary independence? That's literally a shot to the heart of democracy. I doing think enough people appreciate just how important total judicial independence is", ">\n\nYes they are, yes it is, and yes people realize.\nThe current government in Israel is composed of people who are personally loyal to Bibi in coalition with a bunch of ultrareligious and ultranationalists who are willing to sign off on Bibi doing what he needs to to stay out of jail as long as it lets them push their own fairly radical agendas.", ">\n\nOtzma Yehudit \n\nOtzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָצְמָה יְהוּדִית, lit. 'Jewish Strength', or 'Jewish Power') is a far-right political party in Israel, which has been referred to as Kahanist and anti-Arab. It was originally formed as Otzma LeYisrael (Hebrew: עָצְמָה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל; lit. , Strength for Israel), which was established on 13 November 2012 by MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari, who split from the National Union to form a new party ahead of the 2013 elections.\n\n^([ )^(F.A.Q)^( | )^(Opt Out)^( | )^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)^( | )^(GitHub)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", ">\n\nNetanyahu giving off big Putin vibes.", ">\n\nThere ultimately aren't too many different ways to be a fascist .", ">\n\nBut did Macron SLAM the judicial overhaul? I don’t react to headlines unless I see that someone or something got SLAMMED.", ">\n\nWould you listen to Macron if he just BLASTED it?", ">\n\nAs an Israeli myself , you need to know that Netanyahu geninuely only cares about getting away with his corruption trials , he will do ANYTHING in order to achieve it including destroying the country . Macron is wasting his time trying to warn him . He should've boycotted him and other members of his government .", ">\n\nIf Israel isn’t going to be a democracy then we can’t support them anymore. The entire justification for us providing them with money and weapons has been because they were “the only democracy in the Middle East.”", ">\n\nYou thought it was a democracy before?", ">\n\nExplain how it wasn't", ">\n\nIt's an apartheid state", ">\n\nForst of all, nothing to do with democracy.\nAll Israeli citizens have the same right to vote.\nSecond of all, using your own words explain how Israel is an apartheid state? Which of their citizens have significantly less rights than other citizens?", ">\n\nAll south african citizens were allowed to vote too. Except only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship.\nThis is exactly the same as in Israel. How can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years.\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays.", ">\n\n\nExcept only whites and a black minority were granted citizenship. \n\nNot true, black people were STRIPPED of their citizenship, Israel is not stripping Palestinians of their Israeli citizenship BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER ISRAELI. \n\nHow can a person of Jewish descent who was born in the US and never set foot in Israel for generations have more rights than the people who lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nThey don't. \nUnless they apply for citizenship, in which case they will have more rights than a Palestinian national SEEING AS THEY AREN'T ISRAELI. Big shock citizens have more rights than non citizens. \n\nwho lawfully lived there for hundreds of years \n\nAnd the Israelis have been living there for THOUSANDS of years. \nThe reason there are so many European Jews is because even after WW2 European states refused to take back their Jewish population, they just told them to fuck off. \n\nGaza and the West Bank are nothing but bantustans nowadays. \n\nConsidering Gaza has total autonomy from Israel, No it isn't. \nAnd Israel has a 30% Arab population that has ALL THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS as all other Israelis, the West Bank isn't one either. \nEven Israel sees Palestine as a separate state, hell they even offered the 1967 borders MULTIPLE times to the PA. \nBut as usual the PA refuses to acknowledge the existance of the state of Israel.", ">\n\nThey have their own nation, they have their own government, they have their own rights. \nWhy should Israel give the same rights to someone who is not their citizen?\nWhat rights does an Israeli have in Palastine?", ">\n\nIsrael doesn't recognize Palestine as being a sovereign state though.", ">\n\nIt's like the right is always trying a coup in any country. But the socialism!!!!", ">\n\nSo you’re telling me the country that’s whole schtick has been occupying territory and expelling the inhabitants is leaning in to the whole Fascism thing? Truly shocking", ">\n\nAre we talking about America or...?", ">\n\nTouché mon ami", ">\n\nAccording to democratic indices by the EIU and Freedom House, Israel was never a full democracy to begin with. This is consistent with the fact that apartheid states cannot be full democracies.", ">\n\nWhy is Macron being so antisemitic? /s", ">\n\nDo they have the same problem with their big ally, Qatar?\nEdit. Aah yes, can’t show hypocrisy on reddit anymore. We must hate Israel but put our head in the sand when we talking about other middle eastern countries.", ">\n\nQatar doesn't pretend to be a democracy.", ">\n\nSo it’s okay then? Nice logic", ">\n\nYes. You would be hostile to all non democracies? That's cute. I thought along those lines when I was a child.", ">\n\nComplaining that Israel will not be a democracy when you are trading billions of arms with Qatar is stupid. This just shows that Macron is virtue signaling.", ">\n\nSo you have no problems with Israel not being a democracy? I don't think France would stop relations with Israel even if it wasn't, so I don't see your point, he's just criticising a democratic country doing undemocratic things, that's all. It doesn't really apply to Qatar", ">\n\nSays the guy that has zero problems with Qatar. Israel is a democracy, the changes in the law are not passed yet, you would know if you read the headline.\nImagine that you would publicly complain about one of your friend is drinking a bit more than previously while going out for drinks with another friend that already is an alcoholic.", ">\n\nIt's Israel, not Isreal.", ">\n\nI think Ilhan Omar was right", ">\n\nGood to see world leaders calling this out.", ">\n\nyou seriously think that Macron is genuinely trying to call him out.\nMacron is spineless and absolutely don't care about the internal policy of Israel\nhe's a bank employee with became president. only the money matter", ">\n\nDo you think Macron should try to convince the US to freeze military aid to Israel because of this?", ">\n\na servant never ask his master to do anything.\nit as clear rule into politics.\nIsrael trade directly with US at the higher level of the democratic body, then be sure that the sound of Macron will be covered by the laugh of the Israeli lobbyists", ">\n\nAre you French? The French have always seemed, to me, to be pretty stubborn and independent when it comes to foreign policy.", ">\n\nyes I am.\nYou are right, we are very mistrustful about the American foreign policy in general\nand especially in the middle east.", ">\n\nA true friend speaks the truth. In good times and in bad.\nMore Americans appreciate that more than you think.\nTo peace in Europe.", ">\n\nthank you for these deep words. I will keep them in my mind for sure.\nWe love the American People, respect the US and their achievement, and totally beware your politics... and ours ;-)\nI am always surprised by how the American are more open minded than how theirs politics make them appear in their day to day governance\nTake care of you", ">\n\nI would love a source for that", ">\n\nGoogle it", ">\n\nit's really pointless to try and make a conversation with that user, I'm gonna stop replying and go to sleep, but if I was in a room with that user and a chair, I'd probably have more meaningful conversations with the chair", ">\n\n\"ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE GALAXY\" 🙄🙄", ">\n\nIf you think Israel has been democratic until now, then you’ve got it all wrong. They’re just leveling up.", ">\n\nIf Western leaders are getting so riled up about this reform it must be doing something right.\nEdit: Seems like I misunderstood and it's just Macron? Still, not someone with any interest in honest criticism or Israel's wellbeing.\n(4 hidden comments in thread)", ">\n\nDon't tell Macron about the notwithstanding clause in Canada", ">\n\nThe two are not even remotely the same.\nThe federal government in Canada has never invoked the notwithstanding clause; it's taboo federally. Invoking it would tear the country apart. Provinces would threaten the federal government. Quebec would likely leave. It's so taboo federally that when Ontario abused it this year (the current government is the only one to ever use this clause in the history of Ontario), the federal government didn't even want to talk about it, saying only that it's up to people to protest in their own province.\nThe proposed Israeli version is also not the same. The clause forces such laws to expire every year. Under the proposed changes in Israel these laws would become permanent after just two years.\nThe Israeli version is also far far more powerful!\nThe Canadian government cannot override anything the Supreme Court says with the notwithstanding clause. It's limited to Sections 2, 7 through 15 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That's a lot. But by no means everything! It cannot be used to interfere with voting, with mobility, with the structure of parliament, with the structure of the courts, or change the basic powers of the government.\nFor example. Alberta invoked the notwithstanding clause to try to strike down same sex marriage. But the court ruled they never had the power to do this in the first place, that's a federal issue. So it didn't matter that they invoked the notwithstanding clause, the Supreme Court killed their law as unconstitutional.\nThe guardrails in Canada are far higher and the notwithstanding clause is far more limited than what Israel wants to put in.\nIn Israel any government would be able to permanently override any law for any reason not limited in any way. This is would not make Israel a democracy anymore.", ">\n\nI am pro Palestine in the Middle East, pro Islamic AND Jewish Americans, and a person who worships Lucifer myself.", ">\n\n\nJewish\nWorship Lucifer\n\nPick one" ]

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[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5" ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction." ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction.", ">\n\nThey’ll need to change the constitution before they can allow same sex marriage." ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction.", ">\n\nThey’ll need to change the constitution before they can allow same sex marriage.", ">\n\nI know so little about LGBT rights in Japan, and what I've tried to learn often seems contradictory or unclear. I gather that the law isn't as bad as some places, but the social structures are absolutely brutal?\nIf someone knows more and can explain it to a fool like me, I'd appreciate the education." ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction.", ">\n\nThey’ll need to change the constitution before they can allow same sex marriage.", ">\n\nI know so little about LGBT rights in Japan, and what I've tried to learn often seems contradictory or unclear. I gather that the law isn't as bad as some places, but the social structures are absolutely brutal?\nIf someone knows more and can explain it to a fool like me, I'd appreciate the education.", ">\n\nJapan is, like many other Asian countries, caught between past and future, and also steeped in male chauvinist and old Confucianist attitudes. It's clearly only a matter of time before they legalise gay marriage. Taiwan has already done it, and a few other Asian countries are looking at it." ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction.", ">\n\nThey’ll need to change the constitution before they can allow same sex marriage.", ">\n\nI know so little about LGBT rights in Japan, and what I've tried to learn often seems contradictory or unclear. I gather that the law isn't as bad as some places, but the social structures are absolutely brutal?\nIf someone knows more and can explain it to a fool like me, I'd appreciate the education.", ">\n\nJapan is, like many other Asian countries, caught between past and future, and also steeped in male chauvinist and old Confucianist attitudes. It's clearly only a matter of time before they legalise gay marriage. Taiwan has already done it, and a few other Asian countries are looking at it.", ">\n\nOk that makes more sense, thanks OP." ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction.", ">\n\nThey’ll need to change the constitution before they can allow same sex marriage.", ">\n\nI know so little about LGBT rights in Japan, and what I've tried to learn often seems contradictory or unclear. I gather that the law isn't as bad as some places, but the social structures are absolutely brutal?\nIf someone knows more and can explain it to a fool like me, I'd appreciate the education.", ">\n\nJapan is, like many other Asian countries, caught between past and future, and also steeped in male chauvinist and old Confucianist attitudes. It's clearly only a matter of time before they legalise gay marriage. Taiwan has already done it, and a few other Asian countries are looking at it.", ">\n\nOk that makes more sense, thanks OP.", ">\n\nInformation Ministry in Donetsk People's Republic has declared that there are no gays. Seems like the perfect place for him. Got to move quick though. There might be a change in leadership soon." ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction.", ">\n\nThey’ll need to change the constitution before they can allow same sex marriage.", ">\n\nI know so little about LGBT rights in Japan, and what I've tried to learn often seems contradictory or unclear. I gather that the law isn't as bad as some places, but the social structures are absolutely brutal?\nIf someone knows more and can explain it to a fool like me, I'd appreciate the education.", ">\n\nJapan is, like many other Asian countries, caught between past and future, and also steeped in male chauvinist and old Confucianist attitudes. It's clearly only a matter of time before they legalise gay marriage. Taiwan has already done it, and a few other Asian countries are looking at it.", ">\n\nOk that makes more sense, thanks OP.", ">\n\nInformation Ministry in Donetsk People's Republic has declared that there are no gays. Seems like the perfect place for him. Got to move quick though. There might be a change in leadership soon.", ">\n\nSounds like he's asking for same-sex couples to send him photos of themselves..." ]

[ "This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nArai's comments had come after Kishida had said in parliament that same-sex marriage needed careful consideration because of its potential effect on the family structure.\nMore than a dozen couples have filed lawsuits in district courts across Japan arguing the ban on same-sex marriage violates the Constitution.\nIn November last year, a court in Japan's capital upheld a ban on same-sex marriage but said a lack of legal protection for same-sex families violated their human rights.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Kishida^#1 same-sex^#2 marriage^#3 Japan^#4 Minister^#5", ">\n\nGood news coming out of Japan. There can't be this kind of prejudice in a judiciary. \nStill some work to do in Japan to get to equality in the eyes of the law, but this is an excellent step in the right direction.", ">\n\nThey’ll need to change the constitution before they can allow same sex marriage.", ">\n\nI know so little about LGBT rights in Japan, and what I've tried to learn often seems contradictory or unclear. I gather that the law isn't as bad as some places, but the social structures are absolutely brutal?\nIf someone knows more and can explain it to a fool like me, I'd appreciate the education.", ">\n\nJapan is, like many other Asian countries, caught between past and future, and also steeped in male chauvinist and old Confucianist attitudes. It's clearly only a matter of time before they legalise gay marriage. Taiwan has already done it, and a few other Asian countries are looking at it.", ">\n\nOk that makes more sense, thanks OP.", ">\n\nInformation Ministry in Donetsk People's Republic has declared that there are no gays. Seems like the perfect place for him. Got to move quick though. There might be a change in leadership soon.", ">\n\nSounds like he's asking for same-sex couples to send him photos of themselves...", ">\n\nHe likes to look at opposite sex couples." ]

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[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit.", ">\n\nWhich makes it even more important to figure out why people of one distinct race are being disproportionately targeted for audits.\nThis stuff falls under systemic injustice, it's not deliberate but the effects are real." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit.", ">\n\nWhich makes it even more important to figure out why people of one distinct race are being disproportionately targeted for audits.\nThis stuff falls under systemic injustice, it's not deliberate but the effects are real.", ">\n\nRace shouldn't even be in the conversation. Our detection and enforcement should focus on reducing the number of false positives and increasing the number of true positives. When crafting detection methods we shouldn't count non-white false positives as double, or increase the threshold for flagging those who are non-white. The IRS doesn't need to know your race.\nWe shouldn't avoid detection methods that reduce false positives because it benefits whites, or increases true positives because it impacts non-whites." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit.", ">\n\nWhich makes it even more important to figure out why people of one distinct race are being disproportionately targeted for audits.\nThis stuff falls under systemic injustice, it's not deliberate but the effects are real.", ">\n\nRace shouldn't even be in the conversation. Our detection and enforcement should focus on reducing the number of false positives and increasing the number of true positives. When crafting detection methods we shouldn't count non-white false positives as double, or increase the threshold for flagging those who are non-white. The IRS doesn't need to know your race.\nWe shouldn't avoid detection methods that reduce false positives because it benefits whites, or increases true positives because it impacts non-whites.", ">\n\nIt doesn't mean the way it sounds I say the same thing. But it means the system is performing as the way it's supposed to" ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit.", ">\n\nWhich makes it even more important to figure out why people of one distinct race are being disproportionately targeted for audits.\nThis stuff falls under systemic injustice, it's not deliberate but the effects are real.", ">\n\nRace shouldn't even be in the conversation. Our detection and enforcement should focus on reducing the number of false positives and increasing the number of true positives. When crafting detection methods we shouldn't count non-white false positives as double, or increase the threshold for flagging those who are non-white. The IRS doesn't need to know your race.\nWe shouldn't avoid detection methods that reduce false positives because it benefits whites, or increases true positives because it impacts non-whites.", ">\n\nIt doesn't mean the way it sounds I say the same thing. But it means the system is performing as the way it's supposed to", ">\n\nDo explain what you mean by that. are you trying to imply that black people commit a larger proportion of tax fraud?\nBecause the article makes it clear that most of these audits end out being completely clear." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit.", ">\n\nWhich makes it even more important to figure out why people of one distinct race are being disproportionately targeted for audits.\nThis stuff falls under systemic injustice, it's not deliberate but the effects are real.", ">\n\nRace shouldn't even be in the conversation. Our detection and enforcement should focus on reducing the number of false positives and increasing the number of true positives. When crafting detection methods we shouldn't count non-white false positives as double, or increase the threshold for flagging those who are non-white. The IRS doesn't need to know your race.\nWe shouldn't avoid detection methods that reduce false positives because it benefits whites, or increases true positives because it impacts non-whites.", ">\n\nIt doesn't mean the way it sounds I say the same thing. But it means the system is performing as the way it's supposed to", ">\n\nDo explain what you mean by that. are you trying to imply that black people commit a larger proportion of tax fraud?\nBecause the article makes it clear that most of these audits end out being completely clear.", ">\n\nIRS targets poor communities, which happen to be predominantly black communities." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit.", ">\n\nWhich makes it even more important to figure out why people of one distinct race are being disproportionately targeted for audits.\nThis stuff falls under systemic injustice, it's not deliberate but the effects are real.", ">\n\nRace shouldn't even be in the conversation. Our detection and enforcement should focus on reducing the number of false positives and increasing the number of true positives. When crafting detection methods we shouldn't count non-white false positives as double, or increase the threshold for flagging those who are non-white. The IRS doesn't need to know your race.\nWe shouldn't avoid detection methods that reduce false positives because it benefits whites, or increases true positives because it impacts non-whites.", ">\n\nIt doesn't mean the way it sounds I say the same thing. But it means the system is performing as the way it's supposed to", ">\n\nDo explain what you mean by that. are you trying to imply that black people commit a larger proportion of tax fraud?\nBecause the article makes it clear that most of these audits end out being completely clear.", ">\n\nIRS targets poor communities, which happen to be predominantly black communities.", ">\n\nImagine that… motherjones desperately blaming the GOP for anything and everything." ]

[ "Is there an study on how the returns are filed?\nIt seems today via Turbotax or a small time tax advisor (HR Block, CPA firm in the corner store), they both would auto grab any kind of credit for you. \nI think the onus is actually on the IRS--if someone qualify for the EITC they should be auto-added to the return.", ">\n\nI don't know what the rules are if you don't take a credit but since the IRS keeps records on how many people don't take the credit they probably don't care about fixing it. With how much of a problem this is and how much of a problem tax evasion is (almost our entire deficit in 2024 will be from tax evasion) the IRS should do everyone's taxes on their end and just send us the results.", ">\n\nIt is less about the IRS as an organization “not caring” or anything of that nature. Rather, it is the rules (the law) that Congress passes. \nThe IRS as an organization is very much built around the rules. Following the rules, knowing the rules, enforcing the rules, etc. Exceptions do exist. But the rule is that the rules exist and must be followed. They also don’t like how the Congress has grossly over-complicated the tax code. Reading some of the IRS reports and studies is a fascinating exercise; they are frustrated as an organization and as people who pay taxes themselves. \nIf we want change we have to go through the legislative process. Unfortunately.\nFor example, the IRS is certainly best positioned to process the overwhelming majority of tax filings. But it isn’t allowed to. Why? Because there are multi billion dollar enterprises built on filing taxes and portions of those revenues fund campaigns. Plus, distrusting the taxman is kind of central to the American story and ethos. \nWhen was the last time you looked at your withholdings and thought “hell yeah! Doing my part! Woo!” Never. The answer is never. \nOr when was the last time we met an IRS agent and thought “man, that person is doing it right. Making sure everyone is contributing to all the goods and services afforded to us just by living in this country.” Never. \nThe point is, Congress needs to be held accountable for the decades of crap they have added to the tax code.", ">\n\nThis might make me sound strange, but I don't mind paying my share of taxes—note that I say this as a socialist. For reference, my household's federal income tax liability is about $20k a year, give or take. My wife is a Soldier and I see how government spending has helped regular folks (especially younger Servicemembers) make a decent living and provides needed services.\nSimilarly, my state tax liability is about $6k. Again, I never mind paying it and my state does a damn decent job of providing needed services at that level.\nAnd my wife's late friend (died in the 2000s) was an IRS agent who was a decent and kind person who did her best to help the average taxpayer. My mother-in-law had positive interactions with the IRS a few years ago when she needed to sort out some issues with her small business taxes.\nI guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some exceptions.\nEdit to add: I do agree that some simplification of the tax code is needed. I don't work in that area (as my full-time role is in telecom), but surely there are improvements that can be made.", ">\n\nWell, thanks for being the exception:)\nI am generally of the same opinion actually. Maybe we should start a viral thing? That would be wild.", ">\n\nThe reason why Republicans won't say anything because acording to the conservatives, the system is hurting the right people.", ">\n\nIt's not. It has nothing to do with the GOP at all.", ">\n\nDoesn’t it though? They always try to prove that systemic racism is made up, I’d like to see their answer/solution to this. \n(We all know it’ll be “get rid of the IRS, problem solved”)", ">\n\nBecause there's nothing racist about it.....\nThe IRS audits the poor the most by a good amount and given black people have the highest poverty rate there's your answer!\nThe problem here is poor people and frankly they really shouldn't be audited as much as they are given wtf can we really take.", ">\n\nThat’s exactly what systemic racism is. It’s racism which is baked into the structure, not an intentional effort that is being sustained by people with racist goals.", ">\n\nI just don't understand, I really don't want to be rude but frankly I don't think you understand what racism even is....\nThis isn't racism! The race plays 0 and I mean 0 in how the IRS operates they can't even see the race! For it to be racist it has to be against a specific race it's physically impossible for them to do that.", ">\n\nThe racial causation is upstream. That's how systemic racism works. The point is not \"boo, the IRS is full of racists\". It's that the IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race. You can even have systemic racism when the actual bigotry is entirely in the past.", ">\n\nNo....that's not how it works!\nOk stop trying to make everything about racism!\nIf it has nothing to do with race it's not racist what about that is hard to understand?", ">\n\n\nthe IRS's current practices combined with the persistent structural effects of racism lead to a situation where people are disadvantaged based on their race\n\nDo you agree with this statement?", ">\n\nNo...how does race play a role? How?\nAgain the IRS can't see race! So they're not at a disadvantage...\nAnd no being poor isn't racist either!", ">\n\nDo you acknowledge that poor people are disproportionately Black, and vice versa?", ">\n\nAny data about the rate at which those audits are finding issues?", ">\n\nWasn't this just found out to be because there happens to be more mistakes in their filing? \nThere is no race line, the IRS doesn't know your race. \nDoesn't the GOP fix this by their \"Abolish the IRS\" plan? \nOh it's MotherJones ...checks out.", ">\n\nWhat line on a 1040 do they ask what race you are?", ">\n\nThe one where you put your common black name.", ">\n\nThe IRS does not search for tax returns with common black names when choosing who to audit.", ">\n\nWhich makes it even more important to figure out why people of one distinct race are being disproportionately targeted for audits.\nThis stuff falls under systemic injustice, it's not deliberate but the effects are real.", ">\n\nRace shouldn't even be in the conversation. Our detection and enforcement should focus on reducing the number of false positives and increasing the number of true positives. When crafting detection methods we shouldn't count non-white false positives as double, or increase the threshold for flagging those who are non-white. The IRS doesn't need to know your race.\nWe shouldn't avoid detection methods that reduce false positives because it benefits whites, or increases true positives because it impacts non-whites.", ">\n\nIt doesn't mean the way it sounds I say the same thing. But it means the system is performing as the way it's supposed to", ">\n\nDo explain what you mean by that. are you trying to imply that black people commit a larger proportion of tax fraud?\nBecause the article makes it clear that most of these audits end out being completely clear.", ">\n\nIRS targets poor communities, which happen to be predominantly black communities.", ">\n\nImagine that… motherjones desperately blaming the GOP for anything and everything.", ">\n\nThey actually did not do that. But it is quite telling that even though you are attacking them, you still completely equate racism with Republicans.\nPretty damn ridiculous that you are trying to be dishonest and honesty keeps slipping in there." ]