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[ "Wtf is going on Nigeria? Is this a terrorist attack or something else?" ]

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[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think", ">\n\nDon't be fooled by moderate republicans. They are just fine with what the freedom caucus is doing but are to cowardly to be open about it." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think", ">\n\nDon't be fooled by moderate republicans. They are just fine with what the freedom caucus is doing but are to cowardly to be open about it.", ">\n\nSo youve got a speaker, and all they had to do was give your spot on a committee to one of these bomb throwers. Or youre in a purple district, and this stuff is freaking them out? Or maybe you dont like people who pay 17 year olds for sex while plying them with drugs being placed on a committee.\nLOTS of reasons why some of them might get upset about this. Especially as just how much he gave them gets out." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think", ">\n\nDon't be fooled by moderate republicans. They are just fine with what the freedom caucus is doing but are to cowardly to be open about it.", ">\n\nSo youve got a speaker, and all they had to do was give your spot on a committee to one of these bomb throwers. Or youre in a purple district, and this stuff is freaking them out? Or maybe you dont like people who pay 17 year olds for sex while plying them with drugs being placed on a committee.\nLOTS of reasons why some of them might get upset about this. Especially as just how much he gave them gets out.", ">\n\nThey may get upset but they will fall in line. I hope I am wrong and you are right but I have lost any hope that there there is a decent republican left in congress or any elected position." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think", ">\n\nDon't be fooled by moderate republicans. They are just fine with what the freedom caucus is doing but are to cowardly to be open about it.", ">\n\nSo youve got a speaker, and all they had to do was give your spot on a committee to one of these bomb throwers. Or youre in a purple district, and this stuff is freaking them out? Or maybe you dont like people who pay 17 year olds for sex while plying them with drugs being placed on a committee.\nLOTS of reasons why some of them might get upset about this. Especially as just how much he gave them gets out.", ">\n\nThey may get upset but they will fall in line. I hope I am wrong and you are right but I have lost any hope that there there is a decent republican left in congress or any elected position.", ">\n\nI'd be willing to bet he's only saying this to add pressure to those against the proposed rules.\nAnd of course he wants it to pass; It's in his own interest to get these concessions." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think", ">\n\nDon't be fooled by moderate republicans. They are just fine with what the freedom caucus is doing but are to cowardly to be open about it.", ">\n\nSo youve got a speaker, and all they had to do was give your spot on a committee to one of these bomb throwers. Or youre in a purple district, and this stuff is freaking them out? Or maybe you dont like people who pay 17 year olds for sex while plying them with drugs being placed on a committee.\nLOTS of reasons why some of them might get upset about this. Especially as just how much he gave them gets out.", ">\n\nThey may get upset but they will fall in line. I hope I am wrong and you are right but I have lost any hope that there there is a decent republican left in congress or any elected position.", ">\n\nI'd be willing to bet he's only saying this to add pressure to those against the proposed rules.\nAnd of course he wants it to pass; It's in his own interest to get these concessions.", ">\n\nThis House rules stuff is gonna get messy. The disunity between the Republicans is gonna cause a shit show. I give Kevin McSpineless a month." ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think", ">\n\nDon't be fooled by moderate republicans. They are just fine with what the freedom caucus is doing but are to cowardly to be open about it.", ">\n\nSo youve got a speaker, and all they had to do was give your spot on a committee to one of these bomb throwers. Or youre in a purple district, and this stuff is freaking them out? Or maybe you dont like people who pay 17 year olds for sex while plying them with drugs being placed on a committee.\nLOTS of reasons why some of them might get upset about this. Especially as just how much he gave them gets out.", ">\n\nThey may get upset but they will fall in line. I hope I am wrong and you are right but I have lost any hope that there there is a decent republican left in congress or any elected position.", ">\n\nI'd be willing to bet he's only saying this to add pressure to those against the proposed rules.\nAnd of course he wants it to pass; It's in his own interest to get these concessions.", ">\n\nThis House rules stuff is gonna get messy. The disunity between the Republicans is gonna cause a shit show. I give Kevin McSpineless a month.", ">\n\n\"Better look at the money we send to Ukraine too...\"\n​\nWhat about the trillion dollars handed to your corporate masters last time you had control. Pretty much stands alone as your past \"accomplishment.\"" ]

[ "The US could not be in worse hands than a bunch of Nazis running the House.", ">\n\nWho wants to say it?", ">\n\nImagine essentially bragging about the fact that your party - who holds a majority - will be able to agree on rules for the next two years. They are simply unable to govern.", ">\n\nWhich is quite honestly their plan their plan is to basically mess stuff up on purpose do nothing make things worse and then when election time comes blame everything on Democrats and the GOP morons lap it up", ">\n\nGovernment is corrupt and useless! Elect us and we'll prove it!", ">\n\nYep. And the GOP will spend the entire 2 years trying to blame the Democrats for the extreme damage that they cause while the media shrugs its corporate-owned shoulders and says \"Meh, we just want ratings.\"", ">\n\nYeah, but Gym is a lying sack of shit, so we'll see", ">\n\nIt’s the only thing that gives me an iota of hope.", ">\n\nHere is a taste of some of the proposed rules:\nMcCarthy offers concessions to detractors with House rules package\n\nCompromise on vacate the chair\nA major issue for those withholding support or opposing McCarthy for Speaker of the House has been restoring any member’s ability to make a move to “vacate the chair,” which would force a vote on removing the Speaker.\n...\nSelect panels to target Biden administration, COVID origins, China\nRepublicans will bring a vote to form a select subcommittee on the “Weaponization of the Federal Government” under the House Judiciary Committee.\n...\nRestoration of fiscal measures and new inflation analysis\nRepublicans are bringing back the Holman rule, which allows members to propose amendments to appropriations bills that cut the salaries of specific federal workers or funding for specific programs down to $1, effectively defunding them. Some Republicans have suggested using the rule to defund certain investigations and officials in the FBI and Department of Justice or the Department of Homeland Security or officials who were involved in COVID-19 policies.\n...\nEnd to pandemic-era remote work rules\nGone are proxy voting and remote work rules instituted due to COVID-19 as well as fines for mask mandates. Members will no longer be able to participate in hearings remotely via videoconference, and only select nongovernment witnesses will be able to testify to committees remotely if they are unable to travel to Washington.\n...\nProcedural and ethics measures\nIn a blow to efforts from progressive staff to form labor unions in congressional offices, which were approved in a House resolution in 2022, the rules packages will “eliminate Democrats’ creation of House staff labor unions so that Congressional staff are accountable to the elected officials they serve,” a highlights summary of the rules said.\n\nA few things and more, but the ones that stand out is the power to defund anyone who investigates them and to overturn the hard-fought labor unions for staffers.\nHouse GOP select panel will target DOJ and FBI and their ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nThe new House GOP majority has proposed that a new select subcommittee be formed – a result of one of the key concessions House Speaker Kevin McCarthy made to his opposition to secure the gavel.\nIn addition to having the power to investigate all ongoing criminal probes of the executive branch, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government would also “be authorized to receive information available to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,” giving it access to the most highly classified information in Congress, according to the proposal.", ">\n\nMerrick Garland has failed us.", ">\n\nCould it possibly be Republicans at fault for their own actions? No let's blame democrats!!! Makes perfect sense. Very genuine and natural", ">\n\nHe is a Republican moderate. He has officiated there are no consequences for attempting to overthrow the government.", ">\n\n\nHe is a Republican moderate \n\nGonna need you to provide a source for that claim. I’ll wait.", ">\n\nIf it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....he has alot of conservative ties but the man does try and seem impartial. His actions belay his words", ">\n\nOk, so basically made up conspiracy stuff.", ">\n\nJordan on Monday: McCarthy has the votes", ">\n\nMcCarthy to a CNN reporter before the 14th ballot: “We have the votes. How do I know? I can count.”", ">\n\nNarrator: \"He couldn't.\"", ">\n\nHow Republicans continue to convince anyone that their own fiscal policies have ever been responsible is the strongest indicator that their war on education has been successful.", ">\n\nEven if they pass house rules, nothing that makes it through the house is ever going to pass in the Senate and vice versa. We're in for 2 years of political gridlock", ">\n\nThat’s about all they will do, for the next 2 years it will be obstructionism as usual. \nI truly think it’s 50/50 wether there will be a shutdown over the debt ceiling", ">\n\n90/10", ">\n\nA number of their caucas are from districts Biden won. This will come into play lol", ">\n\nIt won't pass, but if it did we should see multiple daily votes to remove McCarthy.", ">\n\nYou really don't think this will pass?", ">\n\nI wouldn't put money on it, because this timeline is ridiculous, but I just don't see the rest of the Republicans rolling over for the demands made by the pedophile Gaetz and friends.", ">\n\nMcCarthy made the deal. He’s super weak. They’re definitely getting their concessions", ">\n\nI don't think any of them can honestly say they have the votes. They are too terrible at their job to know.", ">\n\nWe are the ‘shithole’ country now.", ">\n\nBroken up packages. Reason for the committees. They break up funds for various things and go: “here you go we took out all the good stuff now do as we say or we shut down.", ">\n\nHow will you have the time Gym? Don’t you have a whole party filled to the brim with rapists you need to protect?", ">\n\nhow about charging republicans with domstic terrorism and then we can talk about the rule of law - no justice NO PEACE", ">\n\nOh, Gym. Isn’t there some sexual abuse going on that you could ignore? 🙄🖕🏻", ">\n\nNothing like bragging about being able to accomplish the bare minimum required.", ">\n\nThe only thing Jim Jordan will pass is on actually being a good person. Didn't he try to cover up SA for an Ohio State wrestler? Yea Jim, you're a stand up guy for doing the right thing and following made up rules.", ">\n\nWhat's the likelihood of this actually passing?", ">\n\nHard to say. Some of the non insane rs might try and save him from it. 50/50 i think", ">\n\nDon't be fooled by moderate republicans. They are just fine with what the freedom caucus is doing but are to cowardly to be open about it.", ">\n\nSo youve got a speaker, and all they had to do was give your spot on a committee to one of these bomb throwers. Or youre in a purple district, and this stuff is freaking them out? Or maybe you dont like people who pay 17 year olds for sex while plying them with drugs being placed on a committee.\nLOTS of reasons why some of them might get upset about this. Especially as just how much he gave them gets out.", ">\n\nThey may get upset but they will fall in line. I hope I am wrong and you are right but I have lost any hope that there there is a decent republican left in congress or any elected position.", ">\n\nI'd be willing to bet he's only saying this to add pressure to those against the proposed rules.\nAnd of course he wants it to pass; It's in his own interest to get these concessions.", ">\n\nThis House rules stuff is gonna get messy. The disunity between the Republicans is gonna cause a shit show. I give Kevin McSpineless a month.", ">\n\n\"Better look at the money we send to Ukraine too...\"\n​\nWhat about the trillion dollars handed to your corporate masters last time you had control. Pretty much stands alone as your past \"accomplishment.\"", ">\n\nI agree with him. The whole GOP in disarray narrative will bite the media. Everyone swore up and down that McCarthy wouldn't be speaker. He became speaker. Everyone swears up and down they won't agree to anything. Watch them do it" ]

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[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway)." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world", ">\n\nI just spent the last 8 months traveling the world. I'm just glad I had this opportunity to travel without having to face the hoards of bus tourists from China.\nTime to head back home..." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world", ">\n\nI just spent the last 8 months traveling the world. I'm just glad I had this opportunity to travel without having to face the hoards of bus tourists from China.\nTime to head back home...", ">\n\nFolks from China deserve to enjoy visiting other countries either in buses or alone, just as you did. Their government hiding a major COVID wave is however quite disappointing." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world", ">\n\nI just spent the last 8 months traveling the world. I'm just glad I had this opportunity to travel without having to face the hoards of bus tourists from China.\nTime to head back home...", ">\n\nFolks from China deserve to enjoy visiting other countries either in buses or alone, just as you did. Their government hiding a major COVID wave is however quite disappointing.", ">\n\nThey'd deserve it a lot more if they weren't the worst tourists on the globe. Chinese people abroad treat everyone like they're beneath them, as if the chinese are on some sort of fucking safari looking at all the wild animals." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world", ">\n\nI just spent the last 8 months traveling the world. I'm just glad I had this opportunity to travel without having to face the hoards of bus tourists from China.\nTime to head back home...", ">\n\nFolks from China deserve to enjoy visiting other countries either in buses or alone, just as you did. Their government hiding a major COVID wave is however quite disappointing.", ">\n\nThey'd deserve it a lot more if they weren't the worst tourists on the globe. Chinese people abroad treat everyone like they're beneath them, as if the chinese are on some sort of fucking safari looking at all the wild animals.", ">\n\nTo a limit, but we shouldn’t generalize as I wouldn’t want a negative label being applied on me." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world", ">\n\nI just spent the last 8 months traveling the world. I'm just glad I had this opportunity to travel without having to face the hoards of bus tourists from China.\nTime to head back home...", ">\n\nFolks from China deserve to enjoy visiting other countries either in buses or alone, just as you did. Their government hiding a major COVID wave is however quite disappointing.", ">\n\nThey'd deserve it a lot more if they weren't the worst tourists on the globe. Chinese people abroad treat everyone like they're beneath them, as if the chinese are on some sort of fucking safari looking at all the wild animals.", ">\n\nTo a limit, but we shouldn’t generalize as I wouldn’t want a negative label being applied on me.", ">\n\nwas this article brought to us by internet explorer or something? Spain's been fielding planes from China with 50%+ COVID rates for like a month now.." ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world", ">\n\nI just spent the last 8 months traveling the world. I'm just glad I had this opportunity to travel without having to face the hoards of bus tourists from China.\nTime to head back home...", ">\n\nFolks from China deserve to enjoy visiting other countries either in buses or alone, just as you did. Their government hiding a major COVID wave is however quite disappointing.", ">\n\nThey'd deserve it a lot more if they weren't the worst tourists on the globe. Chinese people abroad treat everyone like they're beneath them, as if the chinese are on some sort of fucking safari looking at all the wild animals.", ">\n\nTo a limit, but we shouldn’t generalize as I wouldn’t want a negative label being applied on me.", ">\n\nwas this article brought to us by internet explorer or something? Spain's been fielding planes from China with 50%+ COVID rates for like a month now..", ">\n\nPerhaps they will also swear off their organ harvesting program" ]

[ "I was teaching English in Beijing in January of 2020 when this all got started and I sort of got stuck there. I just left the country for the first time since 2020 last week due to a combination of a death in the family back home and my contract in China expiring this month giving me a convenient push to get out, back in the US for now. The most amazing thing about China's reversals of their COVID restrictions is how sudden they were. I remember staying up all night in early December because there were rumors going around on WeChat that a full nationwide lockdown with martial law was coming, then 6 hours later they announced that testing would no longer be mandatory, restaurants could re-open, and and we didn't need to show a health code to take public transportation.\nGradually things opened up more and more but the suddenness of the shift from some of the harshest lockdowns since early 2020 to just everything opening up normally was shocking and the explosion in cases that followed really goes to show that there simply was no plan for an orderly reversal of zero COVID restrictions. I think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately just because there was no real option of taking the time to properly plan things out because the virus was already more or less out of control and the people, including the people in the big tier 1 cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, were just too fed up with it all.\nAt one point a couple months ago I asked several of my Chinese friends whether they were more afraid of catching COVID or being placed in a lockdown and every single one of them said lockdown. That's when I knew that a change was inevitable, but I really never expected it to come so suddenly.", ">\n\n\nI think at least one faction within the Party must have been really shaken up by the protests and put pressure on Xi to lift everything immediately\n\nBingo, we just witnessed mass protesting actually working, and in China out of all places. Xi lost a ton of face when large groups started protesting in China's biggest tier-1 cities, and the risk of escalation definitely scared him.", ">\n\nNow do Iran", ">\n\nThey literally are", ">\n\nChina opens its borders for the first time on Sunday after nearly three years of isolation and takes a step closer to ending its 'Covid Zero' policy designed to curb the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\nAt this time, a wave of Chinese residents are expected to return to the country on their way home. Thus, the first preparations for the reopening of the Asian country's borders have been made.\nAs reported by the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times', the authorities have intensified their efforts at the borders of the city of Shenzhen in anticipation of the reopening with the neighboring region of Hong Kong, including conducting drills, examining equipment and decorating the posts that will welcome the expected influx of passengers.", ">\n\n\nStarting this Sunday, China will no longer require a quarantine period for people arriving in the country but will continue to require a negative Covid-19 test within the last 48 hours.\n\nHighlighted for visibility: the 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do. \nIn fact, this level of restriction is a new step down, starting today.", ">\n\n\nthe 'discriminatory' practices which China has pledged to retaliate against 'based upon the principle of reciprocity' is something they already do.\n\nNot really. The quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality. It was also combined with domestic restrictions against every little COVID flare-up. That made sense scientifically speaking. What we in the West are doing now has no scientific basis. Our own scientists were advising against it, but they were ignored.\nWhat we are doing is politically motivated. We want to force China to be more transparent about hospitalizations and deaths - something the CCP is lying about to keep face. We want Chinese citizens to know that the 3 years of restrictions did not protect them as much as the CCP claims. Eventually they still sustained millions of COVID-related deaths.\nThat's why China is so enraged about these restrictions. They want to keep lying to their own people to save face.", ">\n\n\nThe quarantine China was imposing was universal, for all arrivals, not discriminating by country of origin or nationality.\n\nJust for clarity: China has basically been completely closed to foreign nationals for almost 3 years, and continues to be as of the 8th. This so-called \"reopening\" is about allowing Chinese citizens to leave China and come back. It is not about allowing foreigners to come to China, so it's not really a \"reopening\" of any sort.\nYou cannot obtain a Chinese visa for tourism. You might be able to get a visa for business/work, study and to visit family, but you have to apply and there is no guarantee your visa will be approved.", ">\n\nChina just want to export virus not to import virus. This motive is abundantly clear.", ">\n\nAren’t they having a huge spike in Covid??", ">\n\n🚩🚩", ">\n\nJust in time for variant XBB.1.5, the most contagious variant yet.", ">\n\nAny new variant that becomes widespread will be \"the most contagious yet\". If they weren't, they'd spread less than what already exists and they'd die out quickly (quickly enough that we probably would never realize it existed anyway).", ">\n\nYes, and perhaps that’s why China is opening up despite the new variant. Since new and more contagious variants keep appearing, they may not have any other choice. COVID is here to stay.", ">\n\nBut China does not have the neccessary vaccine and technology to cope with the rapid evolution of the virus and Xi refuses to adopt the western vaccines without stealing the technology first. Endemic in China will be a painful journey.", ">\n\nNo doubt that’s true.", ">\n\nSo here comes another massive wave of COVID. Who knows how many variants in a China are about to be set free.", ">\n\nWell, they asked for it by protesting lockdowns, so the CCP just said OK, fuck you guys and your protests, let's open EVERYTHING and you can all die!", ">\n\nThat's exactly the bullshit line the CCP is pushing. They lost control of the spread before the lifting of restrictions, they just used the protests as an excuse because zero covid had failed spectacularly. \n7th of December the restrictions are lifted, 10th of December the first day with explosive new cases. Shortly after they stop reporting numbers. \nYou don't get dozens of millions infected and showing symptoms in 3 days.", ">\n\nAnd Zero COVID was always going to fail. If eliminating a respiratory virus by quarantines and lockdowns was even theoretically possible, China is probably the one place that could do it, thanks to their over the top level of authoritarian control. But it's just not scientifically feasible. The virus can linger for too long and spread too easily.\nThe window to eliminate COVID was when it was a fringe virus contained to one part of the world. That window closed decisively 3 years ago.", ">\n\nYou say \"always going to fail\" like they haven't gone 3 years without the death and destruction seen across the world.\nThis is the exact same dumbass argument people were making for \"let it rip\" and \"do like Sweden\" which ended up being dumb as fuck.", ">\n\nHow was swedens approach the dumb one? Please explain without mentioning norway and/or finland.", ">\n\nI'm not allowed to mention how they allowed more of their citizens to die than their neighbours? Strange rules.", ">\n\nWatch as other places in the world receive a spike in covid cases in the coming weeks", ">\n\nIt was already spiking even before they opened up", ">\n\nWasn't everyone pissed they were doing lockdowns?", ">\n\nThey’re pissed how, once again, China isn’t cooperating with WHO and informing them of what’s going on. Plus the whole hypocrisy where they can bar travelers from entering but get mad when other countries have the audacity to do the same thing to Chinese travelers.", ">\n\nChina was quaranting all arrivals. What they're criticizing others for are selective travel restrictions that target China specifically while ignoring other countries that also have COVID spikes due to newly arising variants. Western epidemiologists also criticize these restrictions because they are ineffective, unnecessary and purely politically motivated. \nThe political motivation is to force China to be a bit more transparent when it comes to their hospitalization and death statistics. While China has been publishing sequencing data, they're clearly dishonest about the scale of the suffering in the country. The West wants to prevent Chinese citizens being lied to about how well the CCP has handled the pandemic.", ">\n\nI mean i wouldn't be so quick to assume altruism on the part of countries in Europe in America, many of whom lied and continue to lie about their own situations", ">\n\nAnyone travelling into China within next few months must be a huge risk taker considering how Chinese health care system is collapsing due to covid patients.", ">\n\nYes, but then it reminds me of the initial waves that affected Italy and NYC early on, in the sense that in the coming weeks it will level down. Yearly vaccination seems to be the only way out now :/", ">\n\nAnother thing to note is that Lunar New Year is approaching, which probably added additional pressure to lifting restrictions.", ">\n\nRelease the kraken!", ">\n\nAs a Shanghai expat I'm all for this re-opening the borders so I can do my long-awaited international trips that had been denied for 3 years with these insane lockdowns. Millions of local Chinese are thinking the exact same thing and are going to do these trips. There is basically nothing that can be done to stop it.", ">\n\nA lot of counties are shutting their borders to Chinese citizens though. Probably going to wreck havoc on south East Asian and African countries though.", ">\n\nEh? Preflight covid testing is not shutting down borders. Which countries are barring entry completely?", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina's surge in cases has caused concern internationally and more than a dozen countries are now demanding COVID tests from travellers from China.\nSources told Reuters that China is in talks with Pfizer Inc to secure a licence that will allow domestic drugmakers to manufacture and distribute a generic version of the U.S. firm's COVID antiviral drug Paxlovid in China.\nChina reported three new COVID deaths in the mainland for Friday, bringing its official virus death toll since the pandemic began to 5,267, one of the lowest in the world.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: China^#1 COVID^#2 INFECTION^#3 more^#4 travel^#5", ">\n\nNo it's okay you guys can stay shut down. It's really dangerous out here in the rest of the world you don't want to test it.", ">\n\nIf they handled it a little better the protests may have not been so severe. You lock people in apartment building and you should expect people to revolt", ">\n\nPutting on my wishful-thinking-cap: Did Chinese people just learn that protesting works?", ">\n\nProtesting is not a new thing in China. Google search has millions of articles of protesting in China.\nOr we can play stupid; China so dumb, USA number one freedom!", ">\n\nI mean, you're reducing this to anecdotal google searches but I know that any protest against China's Covid policies was quickly shut down by police and disappeared on Chinese social media. If you're citing google, I can cite google.\nOnly a few weeks ago, protesting the Chinese government about zero-Covid was described as mostly futile by pretty much anyone who described the Chinese situation and yet, here we are.", ">\n\nFirst reddit was complaining about the zero covid strategy, now its complaining about abandoning the zero covid strategy, try to have some consistency will you", ">\n\nThere are millions of people here and many of them have different views.", ">\n\nBad news for the rest of the world", ">\n\nI just spent the last 8 months traveling the world. I'm just glad I had this opportunity to travel without having to face the hoards of bus tourists from China.\nTime to head back home...", ">\n\nFolks from China deserve to enjoy visiting other countries either in buses or alone, just as you did. Their government hiding a major COVID wave is however quite disappointing.", ">\n\nThey'd deserve it a lot more if they weren't the worst tourists on the globe. Chinese people abroad treat everyone like they're beneath them, as if the chinese are on some sort of fucking safari looking at all the wild animals.", ">\n\nTo a limit, but we shouldn’t generalize as I wouldn’t want a negative label being applied on me.", ">\n\nwas this article brought to us by internet explorer or something? Spain's been fielding planes from China with 50%+ COVID rates for like a month now..", ">\n\nPerhaps they will also swear off their organ harvesting program", ">\n\nLord help all the people in the countries Chinese tourists are flocking to." ]