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[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard..." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least..." ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds", ">\n\nLove it" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds", ">\n\nLove it", ">\n\nEargasm and I hate clicky" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds", ">\n\nLove it", ">\n\nEargasm and I hate clicky", ">\n\nYou call those Clicky??? I've heard clicker linears! 😂😂😂 Nice set up!" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds", ">\n\nLove it", ">\n\nEargasm and I hate clicky", ">\n\nYou call those Clicky??? I've heard clicker linears! 😂😂😂 Nice set up!", ">\n\nLove this man. Well done, very nice, grabbing these from zeal myself" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds", ">\n\nLove it", ">\n\nEargasm and I hate clicky", ">\n\nYou call those Clicky??? I've heard clicker linears! 😂😂😂 Nice set up!", ">\n\nLove this man. Well done, very nice, grabbing these from zeal myself", ">\n\nI think this makes every key stroke part of your an art form like you make eveey button count like you're playing the keyboard. I'm probably missing oit. But I also get very angry at how I don't think I can afford to start spending money on clicking keyboards dammit I wanna kil someone in mine craft" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds", ">\n\nLove it", ">\n\nEargasm and I hate clicky", ">\n\nYou call those Clicky??? I've heard clicker linears! 😂😂😂 Nice set up!", ">\n\nLove this man. Well done, very nice, grabbing these from zeal myself", ">\n\nI think this makes every key stroke part of your an art form like you make eveey button count like you're playing the keyboard. I'm probably missing oit. But I also get very angry at how I don't think I can afford to start spending money on clicking keyboards dammit I wanna kil someone in mine craft", ">\n\nr/downloadvideo" ]

[ "I don't know if I should be disgusted or in love. Is this what it's like to be in a toxic relationship?", ">\n\nI don’t know if I should laugh or worry that this comment is super funny to me. Take my upvote! :))", ">\n\nSlower, you slut.", ">\n\nMy safe word is Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis", ">\n\nThat sounds beautiful.", ">\n\nwtf why do I actually like how this sounds", ">\n\nbecause those are alps-inspired clickiez and produce a deep and sharp click rather than scratchy mx blue or high pitched kahil box style switches", ">\n\nNo wonder I love the sound (and the look); I used to have a OneTouch and a OneTouch Plus. Both had White Alps. The problem was the switches would start to fail at year three. The warranties were expired so I had no recourse, and they were expensive so I couldn't keep replacing them.\nAnyway, nice work on n your board.", ">\n\nThe very scary keyboard:\nCase: Tiger 80 Acrylic\nKeycaps: Domikey Ghost\nSwitches: Zeal Clickiez", ">\n\nI thought these sounded alps-y, how have you found clickiez? I think they look sick but I'm not sure I can justify the insane price", ">\n\nThe price is pretty steep, but I've also made black cherry pie switches, which are more expensive and harder to justify.\nAlps-like pretty much sums them up. My only real experience with Alps tactiles is buttons on old equipment. They're my favorite when it comes to the feel of the tactility. They're as crisp as they sound without being too hard to actuate for the 40g version.", ">\n\nOoh very nice, I think I'd go with the 40g ver. if I do get them. I've got a few Alps boards, but honestly the main appeal is the mx-ness lmao. \nI also managed to make some BCPs for <85p per piece iirc ($1.03~) because of a good market deal and an old POS keyboard, but I didn't think they were that good. I might've done something wrong, how did yours turn out?", ">\n\nI also salvaged my cherry switches from an old keyboard. I think I still ended up paying around $1.30 per switch because I used kailh cream stems and H1 bottom housings. I honestly don't like how hard they bottom out. They sounded good, but that's really the only good thing about them.", ">\n\nYeah, interesting. I actually seemed to have the opposite issue in that I like a hard bottom out, and they just felt sluggish and soft despite my not manually lubing them", ">\n\nIIRC some new kailh stems are too tight when you swap them into other housings and can have that effect. I used an early batch of creams.", ">\n\nYeah, I think I've heard something about that too. Apparently the seller had them unused in a drawer for a long time, so they were v1s. I think the molding patterns also check out, because I think the logo size changed between batches. The sluggishness is also more like an overlubed switch, and it's not stiffer than I would expect", ">\n\nThat’s insane, never head clickiez like that before, you do anything special to them or is it recording magic?", ">\n\nJust hand lubed with 3203. They sound really good in person too. I just have the standard mods that came with the Tiger 80. (Tape mod, PCB foam, switch sheet)\nEdit: also a felt Keebmat", ">\n\nGuys I slowed down the video to see what he was typing. I'm pretty sure I got everything.\n\nWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little \"clever\" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo. \n\nOP let me know how close I was", ">\n\nOkay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing reddit. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the reddit type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a 'secret network of spies across the USA'. Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody make it more believable than 'IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR'. You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo", ">\n\nThat is the thockist clicky keyboard I have ever heard and I love it. What switches are in the board?", ">\n\nIf it’s bad why does it sound so goooood ;-;", ">\n\nI've never heard such a good soundy clicky keyboard!", ">\n\nWhy did we need a warning for something so beautiful...\nThis clicky board doesnt just click, but somehow the chassis acoustics add some sort of \"meatiness\" to the click.... man... sensational", ">\n\nI tagged it NSFW because I'm not wearing pants under that desk", ">\n\nthis is only getting better 👀", ">\n\nI think I fell in love with clickies", ">\n\nForget the sound! I’m in love with the whole build!", ">\n\nOhhh daddy", ">\n\nThe song of my people...", ">\n\nI really appreciate the warning.", ">\n\nnah those are clacky switches", ">\n\nSounds amazing! I've been happy with my box jades but maybe it's time to upgrade to these clickiez switches.", ">\n\nWouldn’t consider it an upgrade. They’re nice enough, but different", ">\n\nI need a change of underwear.", ">\n\nyou forgot the nsfw tag", ">\n\nProbably got removed by the mods. RIP unsuspecting ears", ">\n\nWhy would you want to warn people that they are about to hear the best switches?", ">\n\nTHAT MIC IS SO CRISP", ">\n\nEveryone who likes the sound of these are freaks", ">\n\nFreaky deakies need love too", ">\n\nHow much was the price of this keyboard?", ">\n\nKeycaps: $120\nSwitches: $110\nTiger 80: $200\nStabs: $20\nLube: $10\nMaking /r/MechanicalKeyboards cringe: priceless", ">\n\n$500 for a keyboard….wtf!?!?", ">\n\nWhere did you get the connector cable from?", ">\n\nKBDfans", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nWhat switches are those", ">\n\nZeal Clickiez", ">\n\nwhat are the specs on your board", ">\n\nTiger 80 acrylic, domikey ghost caps, and tx stabs", ">\n\nWhat's that white thing with black specks off to the left?", ">\n\nIt's a tray so that I don't lose little things like screws when I'm working at my desk.", ">\n\nAhh, makes sense, need to get one of those myself.", ">\n\nthese types of clickys are the only acceptable clickies because you can hear the actual board as well", ">\n\nthat's actually pretty nice", ">\n\nI wonder when you buy a ASMR microphone to record sound, doesn't it count cheating? I mean do i hear same sound with bare ears? I don't think so and i think model m mch clickier. Anyway, nice KB yo.", ">\n\nThese actually sound decent tho..", ">\n\nHonestly, this does sound nearly painful to me.", ">\n\nG502x gang rise up lol", ">\n\nHow are you liking the new G502?", ">\n\nI really don't have any complaints. It just feels really natural and easy to use. The biggest thing I noticed is that it has really good battery life and wakes up really quickly when I go to use it.", ">\n\nDo I hate clicky switches? Yes. \nDid I watch the video with sound on because I love sound tests? Also yes.", ">\n\nWow, this sounds so good. This is probably one of, or the best clicky switch I have heard. I need to get this keyboard :)", ">\n\nI hate that sound", ">\n\nYou people must not have listened to the video with headphones cause that shi- hurt", ">\n\nI could literally listen to this all day.", ">\n\nI hate clicky, but your clickies may have changed that 🥹", ">\n\nI like it, try putting some sa caps on I really like the sound of pale box blues with sa keycaps", ">\n\nGreat job! Solid build. My Ferris Sweep is my only clicky build. I've started to just go quieter and quieter. My daily driver is so silent and feeling \"broken in\" now.", ">\n\nIs that a white wireless g502??", ">\n\nYep, I got one this week and it's been great. I'm coming from the OG G502 I bought in 2015.\nThis looks to be the G502 X Lightspeed, and there's also the G502 X Plus which has RGB in the \"cracks\" on the mouse where your palm goes. I agree the added cost and slightly higher weight of the Plus model isn't worth it for the RGB because it's gonna be under your palm.\nI think my only complaints are the DPI setting is indicated by a colored light at the front of the mouse rather than the three step lights as on the original G502, so you have to remember which color corresponds to which DPI setting. I also found the taper on the right side of the mouse to be steeper so it's a little more awkward to grip, but I'm adjusting. When you use the same mouse for +7 years you get very used to the feel. 😂", ">\n\nI have the Plus because I bought it around Black Friday for cheaper than the non-Plus Lightspeed. I agree that it isn't worth paying even a cent more than the non-Plus version. In addition to being under the palm and so not visible in usage, the RGB is also unusable due to battery life. It cuts the battery life by like 75%. It's stupid.\nI also moved from the original and miss the 3 dot DPI indicator. It was better. On the Plus the DPI is indicated momentarily when switching by the color of the RGB strip which, again, is under your palm. That, too, is stupid.", ">\n\nthey sound so clicky. but so creamy", ">\n\ncicky 🤤", ">\n\nI couldn't listen to that to finish the video. Had to mute it. Irritating like someone tapping a a pencil, clicking a pen, jingling keys.", ">\n\nIt’s like this keyboard is talking to you, it’s alive!!", ">\n\nwhat are the keycaps?", ">\n\nThat's it! I need to get clickiez!", ">\n\nVery nice", ">\n\nThe best clickies I've ever heard", ">\n\nu/savevideo", ">\n\nView link\n\nInfo | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | \n ^(reddit video downloader) | ^(download video tiktok)", ">\n\nWhy do I get ASMR from this like wtf", ">\n\ndamn that's nice", ">\n\nIs that mr crabs", ">\n\nI smell popcorn.", ">\n\nThis is so crisp", ">\n\nIt hurts to admit it, but they don’t sound too bad for clickies… (holy crap I actually love it)", ">\n\nsound like lego pieces", ">\n\nHow can you not be annoyed by this is beyond me.\nIt sounds amazing, sure. But not after hours of typing.", ">\n\nNice warning. I don’t understand why some people get annoyed with keyboard clicks. It’s music to my ears.", ">\n\nMusic to my ears 🥰", ">\n\n🤮", ">\n\nclickies on acrylic sound so damn good, great build", ">\n\nI miss clicky switches. I should build another keyboard...", ">\n\nthe mouse is a g502? where u find in white :O", ">\n\nSaw this scrolling through my feed and just wanted to comment that I got that mouse this week and it's been nice. It's replacing my OG G502 that I bought back in 2015 that was still going strong, but I wanted something wireless.", ">\n\nI personally think the rattle and squeak of the MX Blues brings a unique and refreshing sound to the keyboard market. \nThese are very exquisite switches I must say, although not being MX Blues…", ">\n\nWhoah. This is wonderful.\nClicky Gang Rise!", ">\n\nWhat board is this?", ">\n\nTL;DR How do I do get close to this on a budget of $150? \nEverything below is context. But I suck at explaining stuff, so please if something is confusing or sounds contradictory, just ask. \nOk so... How do I get a build close to sounding like this without going crazy with money?\nContext - I have 2 Razer kayboards both with Green switches. Aside from some ringing and reverb from the chassis and switches. My favorite and while many of the custom builds on here sound nice and sometimes a little better. I have found the ease and cost to be more my speed sticking with razer when they go on sale. (Got $200 keyboards for $80) Also I find the Reddragon's with red and blue switches to sound wonderful as well. Slightly worse than the razers, but I have been daily driving each at work for 5+ years and they are both still going strong. I can see the drop in quality from Razer to Redragon, but both are still great. And for any curious (Blue when i am alone in the office Red when others are around.) Razers at home NOISY and FUN!\nOk I said that to give context that my tastes are not as discerning as many in this sub. So I am thinking this is not a project I would value much over say $150-$200 tops. \nI have no preference over a 60, TKL, or Full size I just want these keys in my life sounding as close to that video as possible. (ie. the QWERTY keys could be these caps and the rest a cheap Blue.) \nSo any help would be appreciated. Thank you.", ">\n\nTbh the sound was way nicer than i expected", ">\n\nI- I think I just orgasmed", ">\n\nI now know what i want", ">\n\nGlorious!", ">\n\nI want this one how do i get it :D now!!!!", ">\n\nWhy do I feel that thock in such clicky switches", ">\n\nWhat switches are they?", ">\n\nThose are thocky clickies, a unique configuration at the very least...", ">\n\nI used to have clicky switches. Luved them. Dosen't work too well when ur gaming at night in a sleeping household tho \nLong story short I got into a long and painful process of changing my clicky to linear switches", ">\n\nRip my ears", ">\n\nthis sounds pretty good but idk if i like the little \"tink\" metallic sound the clickiez have, but clicky switches sound best in plastic builds", ">\n\nLove it", ">\n\nEargasm and I hate clicky", ">\n\nYou call those Clicky??? I've heard clicker linears! 😂😂😂 Nice set up!", ">\n\nLove this man. Well done, very nice, grabbing these from zeal myself", ">\n\nI think this makes every key stroke part of your an art form like you make eveey button count like you're playing the keyboard. I'm probably missing oit. But I also get very angry at how I don't think I can afford to start spending money on clicking keyboards dammit I wanna kil someone in mine craft", ">\n\nr/downloadvideo", ">\n\nThis hurt my ears what the hell" ]

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[ "Is it held together in the middle by the microcontroller or is there a stretch of PCB underneath? Very cool but that would make me nervous 😬" ]

[ "Is it held together in the middle by the microcontroller or is there a stretch of PCB underneath? Very cool but that would make me nervous 😬", ">\n\nMy secret goal was to trigger electromechanical engineers." ]

[ "Is it held together in the middle by the microcontroller or is there a stretch of PCB underneath? Very cool but that would make me nervous 😬", ">\n\nMy secret goal was to trigger electromechanical engineers.", ">\n\nLove the idea to connect the halfs via the MC. Will give this a try at some point" ]

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[ "Thats not bad at all" ]

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[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them." ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?" ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs." ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result." ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result.", ">\n\nAmerican psycho was a black comedy with romantic elements" ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result.", ">\n\nAmerican psycho was a black comedy with romantic elements", ">\n\nYeah, it is probably as close to what OP is asking for as is reasonable." ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result.", ">\n\nAmerican psycho was a black comedy with romantic elements", ">\n\nYeah, it is probably as close to what OP is asking for as is reasonable.", ">\n\nWhy do you want to change this view?" ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result.", ">\n\nAmerican psycho was a black comedy with romantic elements", ">\n\nYeah, it is probably as close to what OP is asking for as is reasonable.", ">\n\nWhy do you want to change this view?", ">\n\nSome people just see this sub as “argue with me” and not “CMV.” If OP wants a C Bale Rom Com then that’s what they want." ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result.", ">\n\nAmerican psycho was a black comedy with romantic elements", ">\n\nYeah, it is probably as close to what OP is asking for as is reasonable.", ">\n\nWhy do you want to change this view?", ">\n\nSome people just see this sub as “argue with me” and not “CMV.” If OP wants a C Bale Rom Com then that’s what they want.", ">\n\nThat’s not the last frontier. Romcom’s are one offs that capitalize on a celebrity’s name for easy money for the production company." ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result.", ">\n\nAmerican psycho was a black comedy with romantic elements", ">\n\nYeah, it is probably as close to what OP is asking for as is reasonable.", ">\n\nWhy do you want to change this view?", ">\n\nSome people just see this sub as “argue with me” and not “CMV.” If OP wants a C Bale Rom Com then that’s what they want.", ">\n\nThat’s not the last frontier. Romcom’s are one offs that capitalize on a celebrity’s name for easy money for the production company.", ">\n\nDoes metroland count?" ]

[ "The key to a great romcom performance is the vibe that the cast fully, unironically had fun making the movie they made. You don't want someone who's thinking about the impact of their performance, or trying to expand their horizons, you want someone who's having a good time and isn't worried about awards season.\nI've never seen that kind of performance from Bale. Batman, American Psycho, that weird ass dragon movie, he always seems like he's put a lot of thought into the quality of his performance. That's not a bad thing, in itself, he's a well-respected actor for a reason, but it isn't the kind of attitude you want from a romcom lead. Plenty of actors can do both, but I'm not sure Bale is one of them.", ">\n\nTo be honest, I don’t see it from him either. That’s what makes the idea so intriguing. I think you’re right about it seeming like those people having fun making the movie adding value,m - if you’re a method actor like Bale, couldn’t you theoretically method your way into acting like someone who has fun with that sort of acting? He’d have to tap into the character of and actor who shines in a rom com.\nToo much?", ">\n\nI just don't think he could do it. No matter how much Tatum/McConaughey/Firth energy he summoned, there would always be a tinge of self-consciousness to his performance, a sense that he's kind of embarrassed by the act of (acting as though he's) falling in love. And that's not fun, y'know? Falling in love is already inherently cheeseballs, you don't want to watch someone pretend to fall into cheeseballs, you want them to seem like they happen to be falling and they don't realize the ground is made of cheeseballs.", ">\n\nMaybe the writing team/director could exploit this awkwardness to make a good character? I don’t know much about the creative process and acting but I would be curious to see the result.", ">\n\nAmerican psycho was a black comedy with romantic elements", ">\n\nYeah, it is probably as close to what OP is asking for as is reasonable.", ">\n\nWhy do you want to change this view?", ">\n\nSome people just see this sub as “argue with me” and not “CMV.” If OP wants a C Bale Rom Com then that’s what they want.", ">\n\nThat’s not the last frontier. Romcom’s are one offs that capitalize on a celebrity’s name for easy money for the production company.", ">\n\nDoes metroland count?", ">\n\nWow I’m going to have to watch this one. It’s unknown to me so far" ]

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[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\"." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\"." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nI was going to respond to you about how you're wrong, but then I realized I have no idea why you're saying this to me. What does this have to do with my response?" ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nI was going to respond to you about how you're wrong, but then I realized I have no idea why you're saying this to me. What does this have to do with my response?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nI was going to respond to you about how you're wrong, but then I realized I have no idea why you're saying this to me. What does this have to do with my response?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nNo president keeps the house in the midterms. If Biden lost the Senate as well, a moderate republican from California wouldn't be a problem. After being fucked over by pelosi for so long the republicans are looking for a strong far right leader to balance out wtf ever is going wrong with the rest of the government." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nI was going to respond to you about how you're wrong, but then I realized I have no idea why you're saying this to me. What does this have to do with my response?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nNo president keeps the house in the midterms. If Biden lost the Senate as well, a moderate republican from California wouldn't be a problem. After being fucked over by pelosi for so long the republicans are looking for a strong far right leader to balance out wtf ever is going wrong with the rest of the government.", ">\n\nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that has added 20+ trillion in debt over the last 15 years with nothing to show for it.\nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that passes 1.7 trillion 4k page bills loaded with earmarks with no debate or time for members to review them. \nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that has its own sexual harassment slush fund paid for by the Treasury department.\nWhat's embarrassing is congress had delegate it's legislative authority to unelected bureaucrats in the executive branch.\nWhat's embarrassing is no term limits.\nWhat's embarrassing is voting for the farm bill also votes for the war in Yemen\nWhat's embarrassing are the lobbyist who run congress.\nWhat's embarrassing is how rich congressman get. \nWhat's embarrassing is congress buying individual stocks\nWhat's embarrassing is a 20% congress approval rating\nWhat's embarrassing is a system that gives God like power to the speaker of the house over 434 members that represent over 329 million people.\nCongress is broken it's the most reprehensible government entity in America. So what if there is finally some debate about how the house should run. Who cares if a vote takes a few days. People from all political backgrounds recognize that congress needs to be fixed. I think this is at least a start." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nI was going to respond to you about how you're wrong, but then I realized I have no idea why you're saying this to me. What does this have to do with my response?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nNo president keeps the house in the midterms. If Biden lost the Senate as well, a moderate republican from California wouldn't be a problem. After being fucked over by pelosi for so long the republicans are looking for a strong far right leader to balance out wtf ever is going wrong with the rest of the government.", ">\n\nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that has added 20+ trillion in debt over the last 15 years with nothing to show for it.\nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that passes 1.7 trillion 4k page bills loaded with earmarks with no debate or time for members to review them. \nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that has its own sexual harassment slush fund paid for by the Treasury department.\nWhat's embarrassing is congress had delegate it's legislative authority to unelected bureaucrats in the executive branch.\nWhat's embarrassing is no term limits.\nWhat's embarrassing is voting for the farm bill also votes for the war in Yemen\nWhat's embarrassing are the lobbyist who run congress.\nWhat's embarrassing is how rich congressman get. \nWhat's embarrassing is congress buying individual stocks\nWhat's embarrassing is a 20% congress approval rating\nWhat's embarrassing is a system that gives God like power to the speaker of the house over 434 members that represent over 329 million people.\nCongress is broken it's the most reprehensible government entity in America. So what if there is finally some debate about how the house should run. Who cares if a vote takes a few days. People from all political backgrounds recognize that congress needs to be fixed. I think this is at least a start.", ">\n\n\nI have seen a lot of conservatives use the logic that the constant disagreement was emblematic of American \"individualism\" and should be taken as something to be proud of.\n\nYes, it is, since our foundation we have had individuals fight against each other. From remaining a colony under british rule to slavery abolishment (the war anyone) to women's voting rights to the old green deal to dropping the bomb on Japan to syphilis experiments on black people to Jim crow to the war on drugs and terror... hell taxes haven't even been decided yet. Aren't non conservatives all for \"democracy\"? Well, welcome to democracy, where various groups fight for their own best interests... that's American. That's individualism. That's the best system humanity has ever had yet. \n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\n\nCorrect, assuming that they don't violate human rights. Correct. \n\nI disagree on both points.\n\nYour disagreement, like it or not, seems to only lead to an inferior system of authoritarianism and tyranny. How exactly do you think e should deal with dissent and corruption? \n\nOur individualism is nothing to be proud of ... if it means we are so locked in disagreement that our house of representatives is non-functional. A house divided, is weak. There has to be a point where people are willing to put aside their differences and work together. What I saw this week was beyond individualism. It was selfish narcissism.\n\nSo, what? We should only care about groups? Well, what about the white people problems? What about black people? What about disabled people? Now, how about white vs black disabled people problems... how about female black disabled Havard grad problems vs white able bodied poor destitute peoples problems. The group is never an accurate way of dealing with things. Too many points of suffering or oppression intersect... so much so that the smallest and most unheard minority is the... da da da dummmm ... the individual. We are not bees. We aren't a hive mind. Those people caring about groups seems to me like a disingenuous attempt to make the reality easier to deal with because they don't have to worry about so many variables. Just group them up, thrust your prejudice onto them so as to create stereotypes, and now you have far less to contend with. Oh? Youre black? You must have been a victim of racism here some systemic racism - in your favor - to counter balance that... yet this black person just came over from Ghana, never experienced racism, and his ancestors sold defeated black tribes into slavery. But, the group is so important. \nThis disagreement is what's making it non functional? Define functional? Is it functional when they have a less than 23% approval rating by EVERYONE? Is it functional when neither side is happy? Is it functional when term after term literally nothing changes? You need to give serious thought to whether you're upset that it's \"not functional\" or upset that the veneer/asthetic of the Status quo is being removed? Indeed a house divided can be weak... but it ought to be weak when radical change is necessary. Do you want the gov to be an impregnable strongman impervious to the people's demands for change and an end to corruption? Speaking of which, being a house unified in corruption, be that a strong or weak house, is not a good thing. So, let's not think that weakness is inherently bad. \nPut aside the differences or its narcissistic? Interesting. So, when the union refused to allow slavery that was bad? When Jim crow was being overturned that's bad? When people fought to have the syphilis experiments stopped that's bad? When people fight against the murder of children in the womb that's bad? When people fight to preserve their \"bodily autonomy\" for the \"right\" to abortion that's bad? When people want to send actual billions of dollars to Ukraine (🤢); fighting that because we have our own problems is bad? No, no, this is democracy. We fight for our own best interests... that's how this works and ought to work. \n\nA good example of this is marriage. I don't think a marriage where the husband and wife constantly argue over every decision, is a healthy relationship. By most metrics, this behavior would be called toxic.\n\nThis is a dreadful analogy. A husband and wife Chose, They Selected, each other. I don't choose to be born in America and I don't choose to keep cancerous California in the union. But they are here regardless, I'm stuck with them. We must contend with each other. Not to mention... it's easy to deal with 2 people and their issues... but we have Three Hundred Million plus people in this country. You expect us all to just \"get a long\"? That's preposterous.\nLet us disabuse ourselves of the notions that we were more \"civil\" in the past. Even presidential debates had insults hurled Trump style to each other. \n\nI also disagree on the point of \"it doesn't matter how it looks.\"\n\nIt doesn't.\n\nPolitics has a lot to do with appearances...and an appearance of a divided, weak, bickering house of representatives ...feels more like a threat to national security than a proud american moment.\n\nHow? What external threat is there to the United States of America, here? None. No one opposes us. The only actual threats we have are internal; and you want us to play nice with internal threats and not get any of this corruption out of here?\n\nI point again to the comparison of marriage. A couple that is seen constantly arguing, is easily exploitable by would-be home-wreckers.\n\nAgain, name one external threat to the United States of America on our home turf? \n\nBut maybe I am seeing this wrong.\n\nI believe so, concretely, yes. But maybe you'll show me something." ]

[ "/u/Crafty-Bunch-2675 (OP) has awarded 3 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nPretty much every other democracy in the world does this except the US - it's called \"Forming a Government\" when you read about it in the news. It's only the US that doesn't do it often because we're ruled by two parties. What you saw was the closest we've had to 3rd parties in a long time - a group of 20 representatives acting as their own political block.\nIt's a very good thing for democracy if anything.", ">\n\nI would argue that it is a good thing if the system was designed for it. With multiple (5+) parties an where the coalition creator can, therefore, have multiple possible paths to forming a majority. \nWhen the only possible paths are either suddenly having the “enemy” (democrats) vote for you or caving to the more extremist parts of your party, then that fringe minority gets an uncomfortably large influence. Generally, democracies should be majority rule with some minor checks on the majority.", ">\n\nDemocracies should never be majority rule because the only benefit is that the party in power doesn't need to justify their legislation to get it passed. That is not a good thing.", ">\n\nThe threshold should be somewhere and a majority makes much more sense than a blocking minority or a super-majority. The problem you are speaking of has nothing to do with majority rule and everything to do with a two-party system of democracy. I would argue that such a system is flawed in itself and that is the reason you find problem with the most reasonable way to rule a state.", ">\n\nWhat I'm talking about is a problem with majority rule. That is an inherent feature of a two party system, but it's feature which is present in most representative democracies.\nIf a party or a coalition has a majority then their legislation doesn't need to be debated to pass. They'll still go through the motions, but the democratic process is corrupted because every vote goes their way. They know this when they are writing the bill because they have a majority and so they don't need to think about how they will justify it. They become an elected aristocracy rather than democratic representatives.", ">\n\nYou seem to have both a weird (and frankly wrong) view of both representative democracy and how to effect run an state. Because of this, I’ll give you two points to show why majority rule isn’t a flaw of the democratic system.\n\n\nMajority rule is necessarily opposite of minority rule. The less power the majority has to rule, the more power the remaining minority gets by default. This can easily be seen with the unanimity votes in the EU where a minority such as usually Hungary or the Netherlands has a hugely disproportionate power compared to their size. While everyone agrees that some things need to take the minority into account, and some legislation therefore needs super-majorities in a lot of countries, each such extra limit on the rule of the majority brings you more minority rule and, therefore, less democracy. This can also easily be seen when probably the most democratic votes, referendums, only need a simple majority.\n\n\nThere needs to be a compromise between debate and efficiency. Generally, FPTP elections generate efficiency at the cost of debate/transparency as a single party wins a majority and any needed legislation only needs to be debated within the party. There, therefore, usually needs to be other checks and balances on power. Multi-party systems are theoretically less efficient but then the members who form a coalition can be checks and balances on the lead party of the coalition. \n\n\nIf we, say, created a second legislative body which is disproportionately helped by minority votes, then that could work as another stopgap for the majority of the first legislative body because they either need to include more parties or have debate with non-coalition parties. Because of this, debate would increase but efficiency would be further reduced. There is no golden answer to where this should be placed.\nAlso just something to note, your term “elected aristocracy” is so meaningless it isn’t funny. The majority in democracies are meant to govern a bit like an “aristocracy” in the years between the elections, but they need to govern in the interest of the people if they want to keep power. They are, therefore, by definition not an aristocracy and nothing like one.", ">\n\nI'm now not sure you understand what majority rule means. Majority rule and minority rule aren't opposite. It's a description of whether a party or coalition has enough seats in government to overrule the remaining members.\nSo most of what you are talking about makes no sense. Netherlands and Hungary aren't minority rulers of the EU. You either have majority rule or minority rule in government, not both. \nYour point 2 makes some sense in that it is a common argument in favour of majority government, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It makes governance easier, but there is no evidence to suggest it is more efficient unless you consider passing legislation efficiency regardless of the effect that legislation has on society. It's an excuse that people in government use to justify their abuse of the democratic process.", ">\n\nYou have to think of it slightly differently. In this setting, it does seem a bit ridiculous. While holding out from voting for McCarthy seems insignificant, imagine a hypothetical. Let's they they were voting on a government who were about to strip everyone - except white males over 30 - from every single one of their rights. Then you would want those 15 people to hold out, right? Those 15 holdouts would be considered heroes (in that instance). \nSome of these people really dislike McCarthy. Imagine having to go on TV and vote for the one person you really hate, someone you believe is going to completely mess things up, just because you were expected to \"toe the line.\" You would then want your individuality. \nIn the end, McCarthy gave up quite a bit. Of course, this is just a small fraction - items that members have repeated to the press - they don't offer up a bulleted list of what he conceeded or agreed to. For example, they changed the motion to vacate to a single person - meaning 1 person can motion to remove McCarthy from the speaker. He agreed not to back any Republican party challengers, making it easier for those already in power to retain it. Gave these 15 people positions on powerful committees. \nAgreed to require any increases to the debt ceiling to be accompanied by spending cuts. Agreed to bring bills that group wants to see, such as border security, tern limits, and balanced budget amendments. Etc. \nIn this instance, it didn't help that some of the holdouts were people many don't hold in high regard. While it seemed like a circus that didn't go anywhere since the end result was the same, going round after round allowed them to negotiate - and get - a lot of things they wanted.", ">\n\n!Delta.\nI will look more into what the compromises were after the 15th vote.\nThough I don't particularly care for the freedom caucus and their faux patriotism....I guess it probably matters to a certain group of Americans.\nI still fear though....that this situation may embolden the freedom caucus to hold-up congress again.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/averagelyimpressive (1∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\nI disagree on both points.\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session is more important than crafting a functioning, operable session?\nOr rather, a polished car is more important than a running one? \nIf that's your argument, I'm not really sure how it can be changed.", ">\n\n\nSo presenting artifical optics of a cohesive legislative session are more important than a functional, operating session?\n\nThat's not what they said. They said that the optics have non-zero value.", ">\n\nHe was arguing that LOOKING good was more important than making good policy decisions.\nAny reasonable person should value doing good above looking good.", ">\n\nNo, he was arguing that the statement \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public\" was incorrect. Saying \"it's not true that it doesn't matter\" is different from saying \"it matters more than something else\".", ">\n\nGlad to see others understand the English language.\nI never said that optics matter more than function.\nWhat I was saying was the appearance of dysfunction is bad for a government...ergo to say that \"how things look don't matter\" is simply NOT TRUE when it comes to politics", ">\n\nRegarding your second point: I would argue that the issue is holding 15 votes in the span of just a few days.\nWhile I don't like what those ~20 Republicans were fighting for, it is nevertheless important that they don't just fall in line. So what they did wasn't wrong, even if we are focusing appearances. \nHowever, what looked bad was having vote after vote after vote. Those triggering the votes clearly weren't interested in ideological debate, in big political ideas. What they were trying to do is simply win the game they're used to playing by getting the votes they needed quick and dirty. So if anyone is to be blamed here, it is the establishment GOP rather than the even-further-right-wing group.\nWould you agree with that?", ">\n\nAre you saying that the 200 establishment Republicans + Matt Gates ...were more to blame for the delay than the \"freedom caucus\" ?", ">\n\nNot about the delay but about the appearance.\nThey knew they didn't have the votes and they had to negotiate. So far, so good; politics should be about negotiation.\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying. What they should have done is wait for a few days, have some proper conversations, then go for another vote. If necessary, repeat the process. Opting for vote after vote after vote is why the situation looked so bad. \nHence my question. Your second point was about appearances; would you agree that the establishment GOP is the reason that became a problem?", ">\n\n!Delta.\nYour proposal sounds more reasonable.\nYea...if they actually took more time to debate after each vote rather than just repeatedly voting exactly the same each day. ....that would have definitely looked better and come off as more sincere .\n\nHowever, by pushing five votes a day, they made it clear the focus of negotiation was more about personal gains and, arguably, political bullying.\n\nExactly ! Because by pushing for 5 votes each day.. all they did was exaggerate the ridiculousness of it all. By the 14th vote members were almost ready to lay physical blows...and that was caught on television !\nIf it had been done the way you suggest, I myself probably wouldn't feel so unimpressed by it all.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/xtfftc (3∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nA house divided, is weak\n\nSure. And a dictatorship is strong.... The house is constantly divided. Just because we often experience a concrete narrow majority as to not create such issues like we just saw in this vote, doesn't at all present forth the idea of \"working together\". \nPeople have this weird idea of majoritarianism. That 52% is somehow miles ahead and better than 48%. \nIf 15 votes for speaker is \"embarrassing\", it's embarassing for all members regardless of party. McCarthy or Jefferies could have been elected Speaker. If McCarthy's loses were embarrassing, so were Jefferies. But that's all from a perspective as if \"the House\" is meant to be a monolith. Which they certainly aren't and shouldn't be perceived as such. \nI'd argue the problem is more so in the authority granted to such Speaker. That this sole position holds authority over the entire House. And it's really partisanship that has held such up to being perceived as \"respectable\" when it's the very opposite. \nThe second people disobey the partisan demand to \"step in line\", partisans get upset. The history of the house is in scrict partisan adherence, not \"working together\" to come to some unified leader. You're giving way too much credit to anything before this occured. \nWhat's \"embarassing\" is the expected partisan adherence. That it's to be deemed \"embarassing\" if people try and challenge such. None of this has to do with the House \"coming together\". It's pure partisanship. \nThat's why there is no narrative against Democrats for not voting for McCarthy. Or even any really focus of Jefferies losing 14 times in a row as well. The focus is on the \"detractors\", and the others not being able to \"hold them in line\".", ">\n\nComplaints like these are what leads to totalitarian governments. People get so tired of 'democracy not working' that they vote in a strongman who can 'take action'.", ">\n\n\"One party is dysfunctional and can't get their act together, even for the most basic tasks.\"\n\"Yep. Time for a dictatorship.\"\nNo. That's not how it works.", ">\n\nExplain to me what is wrong with the speaker vote.", ">\n\nExplain to you what's wrong with the most basic task taking several days even though there were months to prepare for it?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nI was going to respond to you about how you're wrong, but then I realized I have no idea why you're saying this to me. What does this have to do with my response?", ">\n\n??? The elextion of the speaker of the house was never meant to be \"the most basic task.\"\nRegardless of how you feel about their politics, the holdouts successfully got concession that they and presumably their constitutions wanted.\nTheir will a vote on term limits for senators and congressmen now. Something I have heard a lot of support for on this website.", ">\n\nNo president keeps the house in the midterms. If Biden lost the Senate as well, a moderate republican from California wouldn't be a problem. After being fucked over by pelosi for so long the republicans are looking for a strong far right leader to balance out wtf ever is going wrong with the rest of the government.", ">\n\nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that has added 20+ trillion in debt over the last 15 years with nothing to show for it.\nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that passes 1.7 trillion 4k page bills loaded with earmarks with no debate or time for members to review them. \nWhat's embarrassing is a congress that has its own sexual harassment slush fund paid for by the Treasury department.\nWhat's embarrassing is congress had delegate it's legislative authority to unelected bureaucrats in the executive branch.\nWhat's embarrassing is no term limits.\nWhat's embarrassing is voting for the farm bill also votes for the war in Yemen\nWhat's embarrassing are the lobbyist who run congress.\nWhat's embarrassing is how rich congressman get. \nWhat's embarrassing is congress buying individual stocks\nWhat's embarrassing is a 20% congress approval rating\nWhat's embarrassing is a system that gives God like power to the speaker of the house over 434 members that represent over 329 million people.\nCongress is broken it's the most reprehensible government entity in America. So what if there is finally some debate about how the house should run. Who cares if a vote takes a few days. People from all political backgrounds recognize that congress needs to be fixed. I think this is at least a start.", ">\n\n\nI have seen a lot of conservatives use the logic that the constant disagreement was emblematic of American \"individualism\" and should be taken as something to be proud of.\n\nYes, it is, since our foundation we have had individuals fight against each other. From remaining a colony under british rule to slavery abolishment (the war anyone) to women's voting rights to the old green deal to dropping the bomb on Japan to syphilis experiments on black people to Jim crow to the war on drugs and terror... hell taxes haven't even been decided yet. Aren't non conservatives all for \"democracy\"? Well, welcome to democracy, where various groups fight for their own best interests... that's American. That's individualism. That's the best system humanity has ever had yet. \n\nOthers say \"it doesn't matter what it looks like to the general public, all that matters is that we get it right\"\n\nCorrect, assuming that they don't violate human rights. Correct. \n\nI disagree on both points.\n\nYour disagreement, like it or not, seems to only lead to an inferior system of authoritarianism and tyranny. How exactly do you think e should deal with dissent and corruption? \n\nOur individualism is nothing to be proud of ... if it means we are so locked in disagreement that our house of representatives is non-functional. A house divided, is weak. There has to be a point where people are willing to put aside their differences and work together. What I saw this week was beyond individualism. It was selfish narcissism.\n\nSo, what? We should only care about groups? Well, what about the white people problems? What about black people? What about disabled people? Now, how about white vs black disabled people problems... how about female black disabled Havard grad problems vs white able bodied poor destitute peoples problems. The group is never an accurate way of dealing with things. Too many points of suffering or oppression intersect... so much so that the smallest and most unheard minority is the... da da da dummmm ... the individual. We are not bees. We aren't a hive mind. Those people caring about groups seems to me like a disingenuous attempt to make the reality easier to deal with because they don't have to worry about so many variables. Just group them up, thrust your prejudice onto them so as to create stereotypes, and now you have far less to contend with. Oh? Youre black? You must have been a victim of racism here some systemic racism - in your favor - to counter balance that... yet this black person just came over from Ghana, never experienced racism, and his ancestors sold defeated black tribes into slavery. But, the group is so important. \nThis disagreement is what's making it non functional? Define functional? Is it functional when they have a less than 23% approval rating by EVERYONE? Is it functional when neither side is happy? Is it functional when term after term literally nothing changes? You need to give serious thought to whether you're upset that it's \"not functional\" or upset that the veneer/asthetic of the Status quo is being removed? Indeed a house divided can be weak... but it ought to be weak when radical change is necessary. Do you want the gov to be an impregnable strongman impervious to the people's demands for change and an end to corruption? Speaking of which, being a house unified in corruption, be that a strong or weak house, is not a good thing. So, let's not think that weakness is inherently bad. \nPut aside the differences or its narcissistic? Interesting. So, when the union refused to allow slavery that was bad? When Jim crow was being overturned that's bad? When people fought to have the syphilis experiments stopped that's bad? When people fight against the murder of children in the womb that's bad? When people fight to preserve their \"bodily autonomy\" for the \"right\" to abortion that's bad? When people want to send actual billions of dollars to Ukraine (🤢); fighting that because we have our own problems is bad? No, no, this is democracy. We fight for our own best interests... that's how this works and ought to work. \n\nA good example of this is marriage. I don't think a marriage where the husband and wife constantly argue over every decision, is a healthy relationship. By most metrics, this behavior would be called toxic.\n\nThis is a dreadful analogy. A husband and wife Chose, They Selected, each other. I don't choose to be born in America and I don't choose to keep cancerous California in the union. But they are here regardless, I'm stuck with them. We must contend with each other. Not to mention... it's easy to deal with 2 people and their issues... but we have Three Hundred Million plus people in this country. You expect us all to just \"get a long\"? That's preposterous.\nLet us disabuse ourselves of the notions that we were more \"civil\" in the past. Even presidential debates had insults hurled Trump style to each other. \n\nI also disagree on the point of \"it doesn't matter how it looks.\"\n\nIt doesn't.\n\nPolitics has a lot to do with appearances...and an appearance of a divided, weak, bickering house of representatives ...feels more like a threat to national security than a proud american moment.\n\nHow? What external threat is there to the United States of America, here? None. No one opposes us. The only actual threats we have are internal; and you want us to play nice with internal threats and not get any of this corruption out of here?\n\nI point again to the comparison of marriage. A couple that is seen constantly arguing, is easily exploitable by would-be home-wreckers.\n\nAgain, name one external threat to the United States of America on our home turf? \n\nBut maybe I am seeing this wrong.\n\nI believe so, concretely, yes. But maybe you'll show me something.", ">\n\nRather than look at the fifteen votes. Look at what was achieved. \nTerm limits to be voted on by congress. \nRepairs to our unreal budget situation with no more earmarks and unreadable documents that need to be approved that day.\nAn actual discussion of border control. \nI am sure there are others but these are the important ones to me. \nThe gains by running it as a democracy of representatives of the people with an equal vote rather than a political party that allows no dissenters is what was intended for the people and I can't believe that mostly democrats think it was stupid or a terrible thing to do." ]