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> I’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s." ]
> You would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled." ]
> You know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather." ]
> The stars at night are big and bright 'cause there's no lights in Texas We lost our heat, Ted's in retreat 'cause there's no lights in Texas. They could have fixed the frickin' grid but there's no lights in Texas The power co must keep its dough So there's no lights in Texas.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there." ]
> Well at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. /s
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas." ]
> Oh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s" ]
> Thanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun" ]
> Hopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?" ]
> yep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them." ]
> More importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago" ]
> It’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?" ]
> We do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now." ]
> so Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work." ]
> I fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?" ]
> It's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?" ]
> Are you all gonna be okay out there?
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it." ]
> Well isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?" ]
> I guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable...." ]
> I’m stuck here and I have to say it’s total bullshit. It’s barely below freezing and everything stops. How they’re not prepared to handle this shit every year is absolutely unbelievable. There hasn’t even been any precipitation of any real magnitude in the DFW area today. Total bollocks.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....", ">\n\nI guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again." ]
> You know....its almost as if, and this is just a hunch but, like... its almost as if the climate of the planet is... changing? I wonder... what could have possibly done that? Republicans, tell me... why do you think that the weather is getting unseasonably warm in places its normally cold and unseasonably cold in places its normally warm? I wonder and I wish we had the answers, I really do. -sigh- anyway it looks like Texas really needs to invest in more winterization from now on.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....", ">\n\nI guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again.", ">\n\nI’m stuck here and I have to say it’s total bullshit. It’s barely below freezing and everything stops. How they’re not prepared to handle this shit every year is absolutely unbelievable. \nThere hasn’t even been any precipitation of any real magnitude in the DFW area today. Total bollocks." ]
> Wow...Hell finally froze over.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....", ">\n\nI guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again.", ">\n\nI’m stuck here and I have to say it’s total bullshit. It’s barely below freezing and everything stops. How they’re not prepared to handle this shit every year is absolutely unbelievable. \nThere hasn’t even been any precipitation of any real magnitude in the DFW area today. Total bollocks.", ">\n\nYou know....its almost as if, and this is just a hunch but, like... its almost as if the climate of the planet is... changing? I wonder... what could have possibly done that? Republicans, tell me... why do you think that the weather is getting unseasonably warm in places its normally cold and unseasonably cold in places its normally warm? I wonder and I wish we had the answers, I really do.\n-sigh- anyway it looks like Texas really needs to invest in more winterization from now on." ]
> I'm flying there is a few weeks, but really don't want to deal with flight cancelations ever. Never had to deal with it before.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....", ">\n\nI guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again.", ">\n\nI’m stuck here and I have to say it’s total bullshit. It’s barely below freezing and everything stops. How they’re not prepared to handle this shit every year is absolutely unbelievable. \nThere hasn’t even been any precipitation of any real magnitude in the DFW area today. Total bollocks.", ">\n\nYou know....its almost as if, and this is just a hunch but, like... its almost as if the climate of the planet is... changing? I wonder... what could have possibly done that? Republicans, tell me... why do you think that the weather is getting unseasonably warm in places its normally cold and unseasonably cold in places its normally warm? I wonder and I wish we had the answers, I really do.\n-sigh- anyway it looks like Texas really needs to invest in more winterization from now on.", ">\n\nWow...Hell finally froze over." ]
> Then don't fly. Flight cancellations due to weather happen all over the country during winter. Happened to a coworker flying from Ohio to New York because there was a bad storm in Pennsylvania. While the rest of the coworkers were flying from Ohio to other parts of the country (including Texas) and had no issues.
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....", ">\n\nI guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again.", ">\n\nI’m stuck here and I have to say it’s total bullshit. It’s barely below freezing and everything stops. How they’re not prepared to handle this shit every year is absolutely unbelievable. \nThere hasn’t even been any precipitation of any real magnitude in the DFW area today. Total bollocks.", ">\n\nYou know....its almost as if, and this is just a hunch but, like... its almost as if the climate of the planet is... changing? I wonder... what could have possibly done that? Republicans, tell me... why do you think that the weather is getting unseasonably warm in places its normally cold and unseasonably cold in places its normally warm? I wonder and I wish we had the answers, I really do.\n-sigh- anyway it looks like Texas really needs to invest in more winterization from now on.", ">\n\nWow...Hell finally froze over.", ">\n\nI'm flying there is a few weeks, but really don't want to deal with flight cancelations ever. Never had to deal with it before." ]
> Hell is cold, yk who you are if you’re reading this
[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....", ">\n\nI guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again.", ">\n\nI’m stuck here and I have to say it’s total bullshit. It’s barely below freezing and everything stops. How they’re not prepared to handle this shit every year is absolutely unbelievable. \nThere hasn’t even been any precipitation of any real magnitude in the DFW area today. Total bollocks.", ">\n\nYou know....its almost as if, and this is just a hunch but, like... its almost as if the climate of the planet is... changing? I wonder... what could have possibly done that? Republicans, tell me... why do you think that the weather is getting unseasonably warm in places its normally cold and unseasonably cold in places its normally warm? I wonder and I wish we had the answers, I really do.\n-sigh- anyway it looks like Texas really needs to invest in more winterization from now on.", ">\n\nWow...Hell finally froze over.", ">\n\nI'm flying there is a few weeks, but really don't want to deal with flight cancelations ever. Never had to deal with it before.", ">\n\nThen don't fly.\nFlight cancellations due to weather happen all over the country during winter. Happened to a coworker flying from Ohio to New York because there was a bad storm in Pennsylvania. While the rest of the coworkers were flying from Ohio to other parts of the country (including Texas) and had no issues." ]
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[ "SW been cancelling flights back to TX for 3 days now, probably again until Thursday.", ">\n\nSouthwest cancelled me. So did delta, so my girlfriend and I are gonna find a hotel for one of our layovers.\nGod I wish I could rent a car", ">\n\nRental cars sold out everywhere, I'm assuming?", ">\n\nAge requirements.", ">\n\nMaybe try a Uhaul truck?", ">\n\nY'all have had more winter this year than my part of Iowa.", ">\n\nSeriously, it’s almost 60 in North Carolina today", ">\n\nJust got our first snow that stuck today in NYC", ">\n\n…for 2023, or since last fall??", ">\n\nSince last winter", ">\n\nI wonder if they've winterized their power grid after the last 100 year storm 2 years ago.", ">\n\nNo, they just jacked all of our bills up a ridiculous amount to make sure the private companies got their money and then did jackall to fix the grid.", ">\n\nFreedom! Pew pew, the stars at night, are big and bright [clap clap clap clap] because the Texas grid is down again", ">\n\nFlights being cancelled does not equal the grid being down.", ">\n\nThe article also mentions the power grid being down in parts of TX.", ">\n\nWell I'm in Texas in the middle of this storm.", ">\n\nMy co-workers kids are in San Antonio, and they have no power.\nIt's almost as if Texas is a big place with lots of different people.", ">\n\nYes but this is different than 2021 when the entire state lost power in a complete grid failure. Reddit completly loses all logic when it comes to critizing Texas.", ">\n\nFuck Texas.", ">\n\nFirst things first. Did Ted Cruz make it to Cancun?", ">\n\nThe fact that Texans didn’t burn his fucking house to the ground while he was gone will forever disappoint me", ">\n\nThe fact that they didn't do anything after Cornyn's brisket tells me they don't know how to work a map.", ">\n\nThis is the 2nd day I can't leave my house near Dallas.\nWe had hours of sleet, so everything is simply covered in ice. Not snow ice, but ice that you step on and the wind blows you down.\nIf we had 3 feet of snow, it would be easier to deal with than 1\" of ice. Plus, we don't really have infrastructure for either.", ">\n\nNormally, it's us Okies heading south to avoid the ice storms. I suppose y'all could come north of the Red River. It's hovering around freezing out in the Flat Part, but no precip. Might be rooms at a casino.", ">\n\nAnyone have eyes on Ted Cruz?", ">\n\nSensible approach. If he’s bailing then shit‘s about to hit the fan.", ">\n\nThe Ted Cruz Winter Storm index is about to unseat Waffle House", ">\n\nHow long till they beg Biden for emergency funds again?", ">\n\nIf it gets bad enough, Greg Abbott will declare a state of emergency and get that federal assistance like he always does.", ">\n\nUgh, it's almost as though they don't actually believe their bootstraps thing themselves", ">\n\nYes, the bootstrap BS phrase is just to rile the base.", ">\n\nI'm in Dallas right now. Doesn't seem bad, just a little loose sleet on the roads, but I'm afraid things are about to get really icy. With luck I'm flying home tomorrow.", ">\n\nI'd say to be prepared... DFW has already canceled 200 flights tomorrow and I highly doubt they aren't canceling more.", ">\n\n\nI highly doubt they aren't canceling more.\n\nWeird phrasing, but you're likely right.", ">\n\nTexas: temperature drops slightly below freezing just like it does every winter\nReddit: “THE GRID!!!!”", ">\n\nI mean, I’ve been sitting in Austin without power for 2 hours now. So yeah, it is like that unfortunately.", ">\n\nThat’s not because of the grid though. Probably due to a downed power line or a blown transformer somewhere", ">\n\nAnd this is not apart of the.....grid?", ">\n\nBy “grid” I meant “energy production created by the grid” being able to keep up with energy demand, which is what everyone likes to criticize Texas about every time it gets cold here now because of the 2021 storm. I should’ve clarified that", ">\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\nEither way you want to word it, it's a bad look.", ">\n\n\nWouldnt energy production be defined by the terms energy production or power plant though? Grid indicates a framework. So if a portion of the grid goes down, for this example a transformer, it would still be covered by the term.\n\nRight, which is why I said I should’ve clarified what I meant. \n\nAnd frankly if Texas cannot produce enough electricity for high demand moments, then that indicates to me a faulty system, or grid.\n\nBut that’s not what’s happening here, which was my point.", ">\n\nLines can be buried. Transformers can be upgraded. Outside looking in, doesn't look like much work is being done to retrofit and harden said system against such conditions. I'm one of the west coast heathens that everyone hates and it takes alot harder of a storm to knock us out.", ">\n\nIs this another one of those \"once in a lifetime\" storms?", ">\n\nThis one is nothing like the 2021 storm. I drove from Houston to Dallas today, and while it wasn’t pleasant, the road wasn’t a solid sheet of ice like it was in 2021. I haven’t experienced any power outages either.", ">\n\nThere's lots of power outages, mostly due to tree branches falling on lines. I've lost about 8 or 9 large branches just in my yard alone", ">\n\nIt's a shame America doesn't have decent high speed railway network.", ">\n\nWith all the advanced weather forecasting technology available today (satellites, computer generated models, etc), airlines should be much better at proactively shutting down flights due to expected weather events. But that never seems to happen. \nI wonder if this is due, in part, to the fact that the airlines can blame these cancellations on an \"act of God\" and not get any heat from the public. Yet at the same time the airlines are pocketing all the money already paid by their customers. So the weather event turns into a short-term interest free loan of millions of dollars for the company. \nOf course many of those delayed passengers will be shifted to later flights where the ticket money will be eventually used. But some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money. \nThis poses the obvious question - are the airlines routinely using these severe weather events to fleece customers and pad their short term and long term profits ?", ">\n\n\nBut some portion of these flyers will never rebook due to any number of reasons. So the airlines just gets to keep their money.\n\nThey usually do announce a few days before the expected weather event that people can rebook to different flights for free, to encourage that. \nThere are lots of places in the country where even day of it's not clear how much, if any, snow accumulation there might be. DC has its famous \"snow hole\" that makes it incredibly difficult to predict how much snow we'll get when a storm is predicted. Literally they estimate .5 inches to 10 inches as predicted ranges, sometimes. \nAnd we don't know until after it starts where we'll land. \nSo cancelling flights out of DC, for example, just would inconvenience too many people for what often turns out to be nothing.", ">\n\nNice dusting today, tho. Just enough to be pretty, not enough to snarl traffic.", ">\n\nDid any infamous Texas politicians run away to Mexico again this year?", ">\n\nCanadian here. My drive to work is about 45km. Usually takes me about 30ish mins to get to work. Last week we had freezing rain, snow, and 70km/hr winds. I still was expected to show up for work. Took me just under 2 hours to get there going 30km/hr", ">\n\nThe difference is they don't clear or salt the roads at all so it just turns into a thick sheet of ice that doesn't go away until the temps rise. Also almost nobody has snow tires. It has happened for years but they never care to address it, people just live with the city shutting down for a few days.", ">\n\nThey do salt, you can’t clear ice also snow tires don’t help with ice. Even if those worked it makes no sense to purchase snow tires or create infrastructure for one week out of the year. Everyone just hunkers inside and eats some chili.", ">\n\nWe don’t salt in central or south Texas.", ">\n\nThey don’t actually use salt since it’s highly corrosive on roads, but they do “salt” and use a compound called MD-20 on major roadways during icy conditions.", ">\n\nI’ve never seen them use that down here and I’m not even sure we have the trucks for that. We would have to bring them down from north Texas.", ">\n\nMaybe we’re just getting mixed up on what we’re calling central Texas, because I’m saying Dallas/FW. I always think of north Texas as like Amarillo.", ">\n\nWe call that the panhandle. Central Texas is like Austin area. But once you get to San Antonio and below, it’s south Texas.", ">\n\nDid anyone get stuck with thousands of dollars of electric bills like last year?", ">\n\nOoh Ted Cruz better book a trip somewhere warm and sunny!", ">\n\nTexas ice storm has happened 3 years in a row. Shouldn’t they be better prepared?", ">\n\nIce storms happen every year in parts of the state. Especially in West and North areas. Difference is that they don't last long and it's over soon", ">\n\nI got stuck in DFW for 2 days because of like 1/4 in of ice. That whole fucking city shuts down when some ice hits the ground. Way less than what’s pictured here.", ">\n\nIts because that 1/4\" of ice is sheet ice, smooth as glass, and we have overpasses at every freeway intersection.\nI don't care what you drive (tanks included), I don't care how good of a driver you are, when you are driving on sheet ice, you are not in control. Its easier to drive in a foot of snow over .5\" of sheet ice (aka black ice).\nIt may not *look* as bad as a blizzard up north, but the roads are WAY worse. Also, we don't have anything but dirt to throw on the roads to help. No salt, no plows, not enough days in the year for it to be worth it.", ">\n\nOh no. How is Ted Cruz going to make it to Mexico.", ">\n\nTexas Ice Storm sounds like the name of a snow cone chain. They offer really big snow cones. But only in one color, because they don’t want to support the gays and transes.", ">\n\nI remember moving to Houston on my own 2 years ago and having a snowstorm the second day. Still can't comprehend how the grid aint made for that", ">\n\nOh so it’s about that time of year for Cruz and Abbott to go on vacation to the Caribbean", ">\n\nMore importantly, is the power still on? Has Texas political leadership gone to Cancun?", ">\n\nOMG! Was Ted able to get to Cancun before the airport was closed? I'm so worried.", ">\n\nWho needs regulations? You fucking go #texas", ">\n\nAn ice storm would cripple any northern airport such as O'Hare. I'm not a Texas cheerleader by any means, but this doesn't have anything to do with politics.", ">\n\nI have a flight to Dallas on Friday. This is going to be interesting.", ">\n\nFriday should be fine, the melt starts tomorrow.", ">\n\nWe have a vacation in a little over a week and I'm so anxious about the flights.", ">\n\nLmao you know ice melts right?", ">\n\nIt will be melted by Sunday. It will be in the 70s.", ">\n\nI’m in STL for some big meetings for my company and the group that just wrapped up today was from Texas and they all have to stay another night because all their flights got canceled.", ">\n\nYou would think that airports would be prepared for most types of weather.", ">\n\nYou know your are absolutely right. I was thinking of the runways because that’s what was pictured. I’ve flown enough in cold climates but just wasn’t thinking there.", ">\n\nThe stars at night are big and bright\n'cause there's no lights in Texas\nWe lost our heat, Ted's in retreat\n'cause there's no lights in Texas.\nThey could have fixed the frickin' grid\nbut there's no lights in Texas\nThe power co must keep its dough\nSo there's no lights in Texas.", ">\n\nWell at least they upgraded those wind turbines from the last debacle. \n/s", ">\n\nOh man!! I guess they’ll have to take the bus to Cancun", ">\n\nThanks Biden. How's Teddy supposed to abandon his state and get to Cancun now?", ">\n\nHopefully everyone has their guns winterized in case they need them.", ">\n\nyep! changed out my summer ammo for all season ammo two weeks ago", ">\n\nMore importantly, has Ted Cruz made his escape to Cancun?", ">\n\nIt’s 2023. You would think we would have a reliable way to travel through inclement weather by now.", ">\n\nWe do, it's just the average person can't afford it. We could also just accept that sometimes it's better to stay at home rather than forcing people to come to work.", ">\n\nso Ted is taking the bus to Cancun this time then?", ">\n\nI fly out of dfw on Saturday morning around 8am. what yall think the over under is on that being cancelled or delayed?", ">\n\nIt's supposed to hit 40° tomorrow. I'm hoping that'll be the end of it.", ">\n\nAre you all gonna be okay out there?", ">\n\nWell isn't it a good thing that their power grid was winterized and taken care of thanks to the free markets?! I'm sure everyone in Texas rests easy knowing nothing will happen to their power and the prices will be affordable....", ">\n\nI guess this means Ted Cruz is warm and comfortable in a sunny vacation spot...again.", ">\n\nI’m stuck here and I have to say it’s total bullshit. It’s barely below freezing and everything stops. How they’re not prepared to handle this shit every year is absolutely unbelievable. \nThere hasn’t even been any precipitation of any real magnitude in the DFW area today. Total bollocks.", ">\n\nYou know....its almost as if, and this is just a hunch but, like... its almost as if the climate of the planet is... changing? I wonder... what could have possibly done that? Republicans, tell me... why do you think that the weather is getting unseasonably warm in places its normally cold and unseasonably cold in places its normally warm? I wonder and I wish we had the answers, I really do.\n-sigh- anyway it looks like Texas really needs to invest in more winterization from now on.", ">\n\nWow...Hell finally froze over.", ">\n\nI'm flying there is a few weeks, but really don't want to deal with flight cancelations ever. Never had to deal with it before.", ">\n\nThen don't fly.\nFlight cancellations due to weather happen all over the country during winter. Happened to a coworker flying from Ohio to New York because there was a bad storm in Pennsylvania. While the rest of the coworkers were flying from Ohio to other parts of the country (including Texas) and had no issues.", ">\n\nHell is cold, yk who you are if you’re reading this" ]
So conservative Lithuanian politicians are no different from conservative American politicians? Looking at you, Gaetz.
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> There's no difference. Nor is there a difference between politicians and clerics. They're (almost) all deviants.
[ "So conservative Lithuanian politicians are no different from conservative American politicians?\nLooking at you, Gaetz." ]
> Religion is politics in fancy dress. Voltaire said it best, “We’ll only know peace when the last king is strangled with the guts of the last priest.”
[ "So conservative Lithuanian politicians are no different from conservative American politicians?\nLooking at you, Gaetz.", ">\n\nThere's no difference. Nor is there a difference between politicians and clerics. They're (almost) all deviants." ]
> It's almost daily we're hearing the words "conservative" (or GOP) and "child abuse" in the same sentence.
[ "So conservative Lithuanian politicians are no different from conservative American politicians?\nLooking at you, Gaetz.", ">\n\nThere's no difference. Nor is there a difference between politicians and clerics. They're (almost) all deviants.", ">\n\nReligion is politics in fancy dress. \nVoltaire said it best, “We’ll only know peace when the last king is strangled with the guts of the last priest.”" ]
> Never saw that one coming. /s
[ "So conservative Lithuanian politicians are no different from conservative American politicians?\nLooking at you, Gaetz.", ">\n\nThere's no difference. Nor is there a difference between politicians and clerics. They're (almost) all deviants.", ">\n\nReligion is politics in fancy dress. \nVoltaire said it best, “We’ll only know peace when the last king is strangled with the guts of the last priest.”", ">\n\nIt's almost daily we're hearing the words \"conservative\" (or GOP) and \"child abuse\" in the same sentence." ]
>
[ "So conservative Lithuanian politicians are no different from conservative American politicians?\nLooking at you, Gaetz.", ">\n\nThere's no difference. Nor is there a difference between politicians and clerics. They're (almost) all deviants.", ">\n\nReligion is politics in fancy dress. \nVoltaire said it best, “We’ll only know peace when the last king is strangled with the guts of the last priest.”", ">\n\nIt's almost daily we're hearing the words \"conservative\" (or GOP) and \"child abuse\" in the same sentence.", ">\n\nNever saw that one coming. /s" ]
Well this is a nice change of pace. Still remember Norway cutting off funds for the Amazon because Bolsonaro was just that awful at conservation. Lula's right-wing predecessor, Jair Bolsonaro, advocated mining on protected indigenous lands, and his government turned a blind eye to invasions of indigenous reservations by wildcat miners and illegal loggers. "We are in a new era," Wapichana said. Those responsible for the humanitarian crisis the Yanomami are suffering will be punished for negligence, she said, and perhaps for committing genocide.
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[ "Well this is a nice change of pace. Still remember Norway cutting off funds for the Amazon because Bolsonaro was just that awful at conservation.\n\nLula's right-wing predecessor, Jair Bolsonaro, advocated mining on protected indigenous lands, and his government turned a blind eye to invasions of indigenous reservations by wildcat miners and illegal loggers.\n\"We are in a new era,\" Wapichana said. Those responsible for the humanitarian crisis the Yanomami are suffering will be punished for negligence, she said, and perhaps for committing genocide." ]
India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan. But I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on.
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> This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot) The US and India plan to share advanced defense and computing technology, including the potential joint production of General Electric Co. jet engines, as the Biden administration seeks to shift New Delhi away from Russia and counter China. One area of interest for India would be domestically producing GE jet engines, which it uses in its combat aircraft. Clearance for assembly of GE engines in India would be a step toward lessening the country's historic reliance on Russia for military hardware - a boost for American diplomacy in the effort to isolate Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine. Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: India^#1 Sullivan^#2 engines^#3 technology^#4 jet^#5
[ "India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan.\nBut I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on." ]
> This is exactly how you steer India closer to the west.
[ "India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan.\nBut I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe US and India plan to share advanced defense and computing technology, including the potential joint production of General Electric Co. jet engines, as the Biden administration seeks to shift New Delhi away from Russia and counter China.\nOne area of interest for India would be domestically producing GE jet engines, which it uses in its combat aircraft.\nClearance for assembly of GE engines in India would be a step toward lessening the country's historic reliance on Russia for military hardware - a boost for American diplomacy in the effort to isolate Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: India^#1 Sullivan^#2 engines^#3 technology^#4 jet^#5" ]
> For additional context, the GE F414 jet engines are to be used on India's upcoming Tejas Mk2, AMCA Mk1, and the TEDBF. The Tejas Mk1 and Mk1a use the GE F404. Personally I think this is a brilliant decision, as the "with us or without us" mentality is just an immature way of thinking and has literally not worked, in geopolitics that is.
[ "India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan.\nBut I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe US and India plan to share advanced defense and computing technology, including the potential joint production of General Electric Co. jet engines, as the Biden administration seeks to shift New Delhi away from Russia and counter China.\nOne area of interest for India would be domestically producing GE jet engines, which it uses in its combat aircraft.\nClearance for assembly of GE engines in India would be a step toward lessening the country's historic reliance on Russia for military hardware - a boost for American diplomacy in the effort to isolate Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: India^#1 Sullivan^#2 engines^#3 technology^#4 jet^#5", ">\n\nThis is exactly how you steer India closer to the west." ]
> This US plan will fail miserably, neither objective will be achieved.
[ "India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan.\nBut I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe US and India plan to share advanced defense and computing technology, including the potential joint production of General Electric Co. jet engines, as the Biden administration seeks to shift New Delhi away from Russia and counter China.\nOne area of interest for India would be domestically producing GE jet engines, which it uses in its combat aircraft.\nClearance for assembly of GE engines in India would be a step toward lessening the country's historic reliance on Russia for military hardware - a boost for American diplomacy in the effort to isolate Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: India^#1 Sullivan^#2 engines^#3 technology^#4 jet^#5", ">\n\nThis is exactly how you steer India closer to the west.", ">\n\nFor additional context, the GE F414 jet engines are to be used on India's upcoming Tejas Mk2, AMCA Mk1, and the TEDBF. \nThe Tejas Mk1 and Mk1a use the GE F404.\nPersonally I think this is a brilliant decision, as the \"with us or without us\" mentality is just an immature way of thinking and has literally not worked, in geopolitics that is." ]
> Your not wrong. India has been playing both sides for decades to get what they want.
[ "India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan.\nBut I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe US and India plan to share advanced defense and computing technology, including the potential joint production of General Electric Co. jet engines, as the Biden administration seeks to shift New Delhi away from Russia and counter China.\nOne area of interest for India would be domestically producing GE jet engines, which it uses in its combat aircraft.\nClearance for assembly of GE engines in India would be a step toward lessening the country's historic reliance on Russia for military hardware - a boost for American diplomacy in the effort to isolate Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: India^#1 Sullivan^#2 engines^#3 technology^#4 jet^#5", ">\n\nThis is exactly how you steer India closer to the west.", ">\n\nFor additional context, the GE F414 jet engines are to be used on India's upcoming Tejas Mk2, AMCA Mk1, and the TEDBF. \nThe Tejas Mk1 and Mk1a use the GE F404.\nPersonally I think this is a brilliant decision, as the \"with us or without us\" mentality is just an immature way of thinking and has literally not worked, in geopolitics that is.", ">\n\nThis US plan will fail miserably, neither objective will be achieved." ]
> Headline garbles syntax readers reread amid frustration
[ "India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan.\nBut I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe US and India plan to share advanced defense and computing technology, including the potential joint production of General Electric Co. jet engines, as the Biden administration seeks to shift New Delhi away from Russia and counter China.\nOne area of interest for India would be domestically producing GE jet engines, which it uses in its combat aircraft.\nClearance for assembly of GE engines in India would be a step toward lessening the country's historic reliance on Russia for military hardware - a boost for American diplomacy in the effort to isolate Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: India^#1 Sullivan^#2 engines^#3 technology^#4 jet^#5", ">\n\nThis is exactly how you steer India closer to the west.", ">\n\nFor additional context, the GE F414 jet engines are to be used on India's upcoming Tejas Mk2, AMCA Mk1, and the TEDBF. \nThe Tejas Mk1 and Mk1a use the GE F404.\nPersonally I think this is a brilliant decision, as the \"with us or without us\" mentality is just an immature way of thinking and has literally not worked, in geopolitics that is.", ">\n\nThis US plan will fail miserably, neither objective will be achieved.", ">\n\nYour not wrong. India has been playing both sides for decades to get what they want." ]
>
[ "India and The US may not agree on everything e.g Russia, Pakistan.\nBut I think they're both pretty tired of China claiming everything on a geographical map they keep adding lines to and building SAM sites on.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe US and India plan to share advanced defense and computing technology, including the potential joint production of General Electric Co. jet engines, as the Biden administration seeks to shift New Delhi away from Russia and counter China.\nOne area of interest for India would be domestically producing GE jet engines, which it uses in its combat aircraft.\nClearance for assembly of GE engines in India would be a step toward lessening the country's historic reliance on Russia for military hardware - a boost for American diplomacy in the effort to isolate Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: India^#1 Sullivan^#2 engines^#3 technology^#4 jet^#5", ">\n\nThis is exactly how you steer India closer to the west.", ">\n\nFor additional context, the GE F414 jet engines are to be used on India's upcoming Tejas Mk2, AMCA Mk1, and the TEDBF. \nThe Tejas Mk1 and Mk1a use the GE F404.\nPersonally I think this is a brilliant decision, as the \"with us or without us\" mentality is just an immature way of thinking and has literally not worked, in geopolitics that is.", ">\n\nThis US plan will fail miserably, neither objective will be achieved.", ">\n\nYour not wrong. India has been playing both sides for decades to get what they want.", ">\n\nHeadline garbles syntax readers reread amid frustration" ]
Democrat committee member questioning some random democrat: "So how's it feel to respond to a subpoena for a committee chaired by someone who defied a subpoena?" "Can you indicate to us who here defied a subpoena here today?" Every single time in every single committee.
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[ "Democrat committee member questioning some random democrat:\n\"So how's it feel to respond to a subpoena for a committee chaired by someone who defied a subpoena?\"\n\"Can you indicate to us who here defied a subpoena here today?\"\nEvery single time in every single committee." ]
3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.
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> Maybe one killed the others and is hiding?
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow." ]
> That was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?" ]
> That’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly. He claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money. He’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too." ]
> He’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. Just checked it and his song "murder on my mind" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty." ]
> His music is trash anyway.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit." ]
> How many views you got on YouTube?
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway." ]
> ^^^ Here's the 15 year old.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?" ]
> look at 69s views on youtube
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old." ]
> Gonna pass on that.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube" ]
> “I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that." ]
> No idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man" ]
> I’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit." ]
> Bay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe." ]
> It's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant. The fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore." ]
> I wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed." ]
> Phones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?" ]
> You definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone." ]
> Am I supposed to be in the bucket too?
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate." ]
> Just your face
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?" ]
> Sounds like the plot to a damn horror movie
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face" ]
> More like a low budget gang movie...
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face", ">\n\nSounds like the plot to a damn horror movie" ]
> Got some Jimmy Hoffa vibes
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face", ">\n\nSounds like the plot to a damn horror movie", ">\n\nMore like a low budget gang movie..." ]
> This reads more like some Mexican cartel type shit rather than your typical African American street gang/drug related violence. The only reasons you would choose to take your intended targets alive instead of killing them on the spot (IF it is a gang/drug hit) is if u either intend to torture, or you're absolutely sure the bodies will never be found. Otherwise the increase in risk in having to get the drop on at least 3 guys who might also possibly be armed and taking them either by force or having all 3 co operate without struggle doesn't make sense. Plus the chance one could escape at some point, potential witnesses, being seen or caught with the victims during the kidnapping and the added risk of being caught due to there being multiple crime scenes and much larger chance of possible DNA/physical evidence from being in close contact with the victims for an extended period of time.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face", ">\n\nSounds like the plot to a damn horror movie", ">\n\nMore like a low budget gang movie...", ">\n\nGot some Jimmy Hoffa vibes" ]
> Or they kidnapped them with the intention of beating their ass and extorting cash from them. Kidnappings of corner kids and other drug pushers for money isn't unheard of, local rappers with cash wouldn't be much different. My macabre guess is they were taken to a house to be extorted. They either didn't or did get the money but the perpetrators were worried about getting caught so ended up killing and dumping the bodies somewhere.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face", ">\n\nSounds like the plot to a damn horror movie", ">\n\nMore like a low budget gang movie...", ">\n\nGot some Jimmy Hoffa vibes", ">\n\nThis reads more like some Mexican cartel type shit rather than your typical African American street gang/drug related violence. The only reasons you would choose to take your intended targets alive instead of killing them on the spot (IF it is a gang/drug hit) is if u either intend to torture, or you're absolutely sure the bodies will never be found. Otherwise the increase in risk in having to get the drop on at least 3 guys who might also possibly be armed and taking them either by force or having all 3 co operate without struggle doesn't make sense. Plus the chance one could escape at some point, potential witnesses, being seen or caught with the victims during the kidnapping and the added risk of being caught due to there being multiple crime scenes and much larger chance of possible DNA/physical evidence from being in close contact with the victims for an extended period of time." ]
> They took a wrong turn, and ended up in some Hills have eyes type shit.
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face", ">\n\nSounds like the plot to a damn horror movie", ">\n\nMore like a low budget gang movie...", ">\n\nGot some Jimmy Hoffa vibes", ">\n\nThis reads more like some Mexican cartel type shit rather than your typical African American street gang/drug related violence. The only reasons you would choose to take your intended targets alive instead of killing them on the spot (IF it is a gang/drug hit) is if u either intend to torture, or you're absolutely sure the bodies will never be found. Otherwise the increase in risk in having to get the drop on at least 3 guys who might also possibly be armed and taking them either by force or having all 3 co operate without struggle doesn't make sense. Plus the chance one could escape at some point, potential witnesses, being seen or caught with the victims during the kidnapping and the added risk of being caught due to there being multiple crime scenes and much larger chance of possible DNA/physical evidence from being in close contact with the victims for an extended period of time.", ">\n\nOr they kidnapped them with the intention of beating their ass and extorting cash from them. Kidnappings of corner kids and other drug pushers for money isn't unheard of, local rappers with cash wouldn't be much different. \nMy macabre guess is they were taken to a house to be extorted. They either didn't or did get the money but the perpetrators were worried about getting caught so ended up killing and dumping the bodies somewhere." ]
> Do you know that rappers are real people with families that care about them?
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face", ">\n\nSounds like the plot to a damn horror movie", ">\n\nMore like a low budget gang movie...", ">\n\nGot some Jimmy Hoffa vibes", ">\n\nThis reads more like some Mexican cartel type shit rather than your typical African American street gang/drug related violence. The only reasons you would choose to take your intended targets alive instead of killing them on the spot (IF it is a gang/drug hit) is if u either intend to torture, or you're absolutely sure the bodies will never be found. Otherwise the increase in risk in having to get the drop on at least 3 guys who might also possibly be armed and taking them either by force or having all 3 co operate without struggle doesn't make sense. Plus the chance one could escape at some point, potential witnesses, being seen or caught with the victims during the kidnapping and the added risk of being caught due to there being multiple crime scenes and much larger chance of possible DNA/physical evidence from being in close contact with the victims for an extended period of time.", ">\n\nOr they kidnapped them with the intention of beating their ass and extorting cash from them. Kidnappings of corner kids and other drug pushers for money isn't unheard of, local rappers with cash wouldn't be much different. \nMy macabre guess is they were taken to a house to be extorted. They either didn't or did get the money but the perpetrators were worried about getting caught so ended up killing and dumping the bodies somewhere.", ">\n\nThey took a wrong turn, and ended up in some Hills have eyes type shit." ]
>
[ "3 men missing, but their car has been found? I’m inclined to agree with the mother, they were killed intentionally or accidentally. If not murdered then swept away in a river somehow.", ">\n\nMaybe one killed the others and is hiding?", ">\n\nThat was my first thought too. Was smart enough to know that the first thing the police would do is look for cell phone activity and their cars. Probably credit card usage data too.", ">\n\nThat’s kind of like the rapper YNW Melly.\nHe claimed that he and two close friends were shot in a drive-by, and they were the only ones hit since they were in the back seat. But forensics demonstrated the gun shots came from the direction of his seat. It later emerged that he suspected them of stealing his money.\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. In Nov it was ruled that he’ll be eligible for the death penalty.", ">\n\n\nHe’s was actually on the verge of becoming very famous before he was arrested. \n\nJust checked it and his song \"murder on my mind\" (yeah i know) has around 500mil views on YouTube. Way to throw away your life and a potentially successful career over some petty shit.", ">\n\nHis music is trash anyway.", ">\n\nHow many views you got on YouTube?", ">\n\n^^^ Here's the 15 year old.", ">\n\nlook at 69s views on youtube", ">\n\nGonna pass on that.", ">\n\n“I don’t want to be on ‘Dateline’ in 20 years to find his body,” Jesus Christ man", ">\n\nNo idea. This is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm in Detroit.", ">\n\nI’m between Lansing and Detroit and this is the first I have heard of it too. Hope they are found safe.", ">\n\nBay City area, not a peep. Sad this stuff doesn’t even make the news anymore.", ">\n\nIt's not strange. Your cellphone is constantly pinging towers wether you are using it or not. This information can be pulled from service providers with a warrant.\nThe fact that there is no cell phone activity means that the phones are either completely off, submerged under water, or were destroyed.", ">\n\nI wonder why submerged in water doesn’t count as destroyed?", ">\n\nPhones can go a few meters under water and still work these days. But you might not get a cell signal with two meters of water above the phone.", ">\n\nYou definitely won't. The bands that cell phones use can be blocked by as little as 1cm of water. Just put your phone in a dry bag and put it in a bucket if you want to test it out, you can watch the signal strength bars evaporate.", ">\n\nAm I supposed to be in the bucket too?", ">\n\nJust your face", ">\n\nSounds like the plot to a damn horror movie", ">\n\nMore like a low budget gang movie...", ">\n\nGot some Jimmy Hoffa vibes", ">\n\nThis reads more like some Mexican cartel type shit rather than your typical African American street gang/drug related violence. The only reasons you would choose to take your intended targets alive instead of killing them on the spot (IF it is a gang/drug hit) is if u either intend to torture, or you're absolutely sure the bodies will never be found. Otherwise the increase in risk in having to get the drop on at least 3 guys who might also possibly be armed and taking them either by force or having all 3 co operate without struggle doesn't make sense. Plus the chance one could escape at some point, potential witnesses, being seen or caught with the victims during the kidnapping and the added risk of being caught due to there being multiple crime scenes and much larger chance of possible DNA/physical evidence from being in close contact with the victims for an extended period of time.", ">\n\nOr they kidnapped them with the intention of beating their ass and extorting cash from them. Kidnappings of corner kids and other drug pushers for money isn't unheard of, local rappers with cash wouldn't be much different. \nMy macabre guess is they were taken to a house to be extorted. They either didn't or did get the money but the perpetrators were worried about getting caught so ended up killing and dumping the bodies somewhere.", ">\n\nThey took a wrong turn, and ended up in some Hills have eyes type shit.", ">\n\nDo you know that rappers are real people with families that care about them?" ]
"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual. Earlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation." So, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ... I hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...
[]
> and the search was consensual. ...That's what she said?
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios..." ]
> When you’re president you let them do it.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?" ]
> Always let the FBI in through the back door
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it." ]
> That's the loop hole
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door" ]
> As expected
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole" ]
> And yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected" ]
> the constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again "Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!" -George Washington, 1684
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing." ]
> "V8! V8! V8!" -Thomas Jefferson.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684" ]
> "Mediocre!" -James Madison
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson." ]
> "That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!" - Tucker Carlson, probably.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison" ]
> Those M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably." ]
> Now do all of Trump's residences.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions." ]
> Well, that's good.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences." ]
> Why have they not searched all trump's homes?
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good." ]
> Does that include Epstein's island?
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?" ]
> And the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?" ]
> Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?" ]
> How? They didn't find anything. 😏
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it." ]
> They're gonna bust out the classics The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏" ]
> but the important issue to republicans is "were there any dick pics?"
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" ]
> Now. Off to Bedminster with a shovel.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"" ]
> So much for "He's the same as Trump.".
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"", ">\n\nNow. Off to Bedminster with a shovel." ]
> But didn’t they find documents in his house and garage?
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"", ">\n\nNow. Off to Bedminster with a shovel.", ">\n\nSo much for \"He's the same as Trump.\"." ]
> Yes they did. They also found them because he complied with the FBI and didn't try to fight the search like Trump did. That's where it differs. I honestly don't know why this has to be explained.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"", ">\n\nNow. Off to Bedminster with a shovel.", ">\n\nSo much for \"He's the same as Trump.\".", ">\n\nBut didn’t they find documents in his house and garage?" ]
> … because I don’t watch the news much, everyone on here was talking like he’s done nothing wrong. Honestly if they both did the same crime what does it matter whether or not they cooperated?
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"", ">\n\nNow. Off to Bedminster with a shovel.", ">\n\nSo much for \"He's the same as Trump.\".", ">\n\nBut didn’t they find documents in his house and garage?", ">\n\nYes they did. They also found them because he complied with the FBI and didn't try to fight the search like Trump did. That's where it differs. I honestly don't know why this has to be explained." ]
> No one here is saying he did nothing wrong. Or if they are, it's the minority. The majority of us (myself included) agree he shouldn't have had those documents where he did. And if it turns out it was purposeful, then he should be punished accordingly. Trump KNEW he had the documents and tried using bullshit reasons as to why he should have them. So no, it's not nearly the same crime.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"", ">\n\nNow. Off to Bedminster with a shovel.", ">\n\nSo much for \"He's the same as Trump.\".", ">\n\nBut didn’t they find documents in his house and garage?", ">\n\nYes they did. They also found them because he complied with the FBI and didn't try to fight the search like Trump did. That's where it differs. I honestly don't know why this has to be explained.", ">\n\n… because I don’t watch the news much, everyone on here was talking like he’s done nothing wrong. Honestly if they both did the same crime what does it matter whether or not they cooperated?" ]
> Could've sworn I've seen 4 or 5 different posts about "FBI found no classified documents in Biden's home" before this one. I wonder if they're being deleted as off-topic. Which would be interesting, given that posts of "FBI is searching Biden's home for classified documents" still seem to remain, as on-topic. Would that show any bias or impropriety if "FBI searching Biden" mudslinging/false equivalencies are allowed to remain, but any exonerating "Biden's clean, FBI search and found nothing" posts are deleted? Is that preferential treatment?
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"", ">\n\nNow. Off to Bedminster with a shovel.", ">\n\nSo much for \"He's the same as Trump.\".", ">\n\nBut didn’t they find documents in his house and garage?", ">\n\nYes they did. They also found them because he complied with the FBI and didn't try to fight the search like Trump did. That's where it differs. I honestly don't know why this has to be explained.", ">\n\n… because I don’t watch the news much, everyone on here was talking like he’s done nothing wrong. Honestly if they both did the same crime what does it matter whether or not they cooperated?", ">\n\nNo one here is saying he did nothing wrong. Or if they are, it's the minority. The majority of us (myself included) agree he shouldn't have had those documents where he did. And if it turns out it was purposeful, then he should be punished accordingly. Trump KNEW he had the documents and tried using bullshit reasons as to why he should have them. So no, it's not nearly the same crime." ]
> I guess we'll find out with this one.
[ "\"A source familiar with the matter said no warrant was involved and the search was consensual.\n\nEarlier Wednesday, Bauer said in a statement that the Department of Justice was conducting the search with Biden's full support and cooperation.\"\nSo, in other words, this is nothing like Donald Trumps obstruction and lying to NARA, the FBI, the DOJ, and having to get a subpoena ...\nI hate to shoot down a false equivalence, but hey, the morons on some channels just keep wanting to equate the two completely different scenarios...", ">\n\n\nand the search was consensual.\n\n...That's what she said?", ">\n\nWhen you’re president you let them do it.", ">\n\nAlways let the FBI in through the back door", ">\n\nThat's the loop hole", ">\n\nAs expected", ">\n\nAnd yet media drooled all over themselves all morning breathlessly reporting on it. Media needs to get back to real journalism. This crap is embarrassing.", ">\n\nthe constant stream of ridiculous horse shit during trump's tenure got them hooked on the clicks and views. they're desperate to drum up drama to get that hit again \n\"Do not, my friends, become addicted to ~~water~~ political incompetence. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!\"\n-George Washington, 1684", ">\n\n\"V8! V8! V8!\"\n-Thomas Jefferson.", ">\n\n\"Mediocre!\" \n-James Madison", ">\n\n\"That's because a gay M&M took them to Hunter Biden first!\" - Tucker Carlson, probably.", ">\n\nThose M&M's with their extremely strong hands and powerful thighs. Their perfectly sculptured hour glass figures. Why are we giving them shoes when they should be wearing assless chaps. God gave them these assets why cant they flaunt them? Why don't we have white M&M's? Im just asking the questions here and I know the American public deserves to know. Wait no one else is thinking about these M&M's and how sexually charged they make me? They really get you riled up right? Wait they don't? Why have the liberals taken away a man's sexuality? Why are men not allowed to have these primal urges for the confectionary treats covered in chocolate and sometimes with nuts inside? Again, im just asking the questions.", ">\n\nNow do all of Trump's residences.", ">\n\nWell, that's good.", ">\n\nWhy have they not searched all trump's homes?", ">\n\nDoes that include Epstein's island?", ">\n\nAnd the 18th hole where Ivana is buried?", ">\n\nPut that in your pipe and smoke it.", ">\n\nHow? They didn't find anything. 😏", ">\n\nThey're gonna bust out the classics\n\nThe absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence", ">\n\nbut the important issue to republicans is \"were there any dick pics?\"", ">\n\nNow. Off to Bedminster with a shovel.", ">\n\nSo much for \"He's the same as Trump.\".", ">\n\nBut didn’t they find documents in his house and garage?", ">\n\nYes they did. They also found them because he complied with the FBI and didn't try to fight the search like Trump did. That's where it differs. I honestly don't know why this has to be explained.", ">\n\n… because I don’t watch the news much, everyone on here was talking like he’s done nothing wrong. Honestly if they both did the same crime what does it matter whether or not they cooperated?", ">\n\nNo one here is saying he did nothing wrong. Or if they are, it's the minority. The majority of us (myself included) agree he shouldn't have had those documents where he did. And if it turns out it was purposeful, then he should be punished accordingly. Trump KNEW he had the documents and tried using bullshit reasons as to why he should have them. So no, it's not nearly the same crime.", ">\n\nCould've sworn I've seen 4 or 5 different posts about \"FBI found no classified documents in Biden's home\" before this one. I wonder if they're being deleted as off-topic.\nWhich would be interesting, given that posts of \"FBI is searching Biden's home for classified documents\" still seem to remain, as on-topic.\nWould that show any bias or impropriety if \"FBI searching Biden\" mudslinging/false equivalencies are allowed to remain, but any exonerating \"Biden's clean, FBI search and found nothing\" posts are deleted?\nIs that preferential treatment?" ]