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> No. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things. The statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting." ]
> Theres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability." ]
> I'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment. Glad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law." ]
> Hopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective." ]
> Take everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail." ]
> Lol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt." ]
> This dude should die in jail man, wtf.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad." ]
> No OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf." ]
> He deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal." ]
> Celebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes." ]
> But defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials." ]
> The gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. As far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges. Double jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?" ]
> Thank you Internet stranger!
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one." ]
> Man. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea. It's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle. Either punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. Using new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!" ]
> Using new law to prosecute old behavior He's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of." ]
> Perhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them." ]
> Please shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it." ]
> Coming for you next Trump!
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams" ]
> He actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!" ]
> Guess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier." ]
> I thought he died tbh
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison" ]
> This law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh" ]
> Or, just don’t rape anybody!
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC." ]
> This is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. But you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. You do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!" ]
> I’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake." ]
> He didn’t everlast after all
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine" ]
> Well, there goes his come back tour...
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine", ">\n\nHe didn’t everlast after all" ]
> Interesting similar laws in CA and NY. Any other states considering this?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine", ">\n\nHe didn’t everlast after all", ">\n\nWell, there goes his come back tour..." ]
> Does this mean Penn St University is subject to the same law? Or is it just for individuals? Cuz if it's just for celebrities then that's kinda fucked up.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine", ">\n\nHe didn’t everlast after all", ">\n\nWell, there goes his come back tour...", ">\n\nInteresting similar laws in CA and NY. Any other states considering this?" ]
> This law does not apply to Penn State because: 1) Penn State is in the State of Pennsylvania, so Pennsylvania laws apply there. The law discussed in this article is a New York State law. 2) The important thing this law does is extend the length of time when an alleged sexual assault victim can file lawsuits related to the sexual assault. Lawsuits against Penn State and Jerry Sandusky were filed years ago so the statute of limitations wasn't relevant.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine", ">\n\nHe didn’t everlast after all", ">\n\nWell, there goes his come back tour...", ">\n\nInteresting similar laws in CA and NY. Any other states considering this?", ">\n\nDoes this mean Penn St University is subject to the same law? Or is it just for individuals? \nCuz if it's just for celebrities then that's kinda fucked up." ]
> Leave the poor old guy alone already. Let him enjoy what's left of his life.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine", ">\n\nHe didn’t everlast after all", ">\n\nWell, there goes his come back tour...", ">\n\nInteresting similar laws in CA and NY. Any other states considering this?", ">\n\nDoes this mean Penn St University is subject to the same law? Or is it just for individuals? \nCuz if it's just for celebrities then that's kinda fucked up.", ">\n\nThis law does not apply to Penn State because:\n1) Penn State is in the State of Pennsylvania, so Pennsylvania laws apply there. The law discussed in this article is a New York State law. \n2) The important thing this law does is extend the length of time when an alleged sexual assault victim can file lawsuits related to the sexual assault. Lawsuits against Penn State and Jerry Sandusky were filed years ago so the statute of limitations wasn't relevant." ]
> May you never have to live with the memory of rape. He gave life sentences to so many women. He doesn't deserve to enjoy anything ever again.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine", ">\n\nHe didn’t everlast after all", ">\n\nWell, there goes his come back tour...", ">\n\nInteresting similar laws in CA and NY. Any other states considering this?", ">\n\nDoes this mean Penn St University is subject to the same law? Or is it just for individuals? \nCuz if it's just for celebrities then that's kinda fucked up.", ">\n\nThis law does not apply to Penn State because:\n1) Penn State is in the State of Pennsylvania, so Pennsylvania laws apply there. The law discussed in this article is a New York State law. \n2) The important thing this law does is extend the length of time when an alleged sexual assault victim can file lawsuits related to the sexual assault. Lawsuits against Penn State and Jerry Sandusky were filed years ago so the statute of limitations wasn't relevant.", ">\n\nLeave the poor old guy alone already. Let him enjoy what's left of his life." ]
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[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?", ">\n\nSo he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes.\nThis is interesting.", ">\n\nNo. Sexual assault was illegal when he did those things.\nThe statue of limitations is now extended for civil liability.", ">\n\nTheres almost no way to provide evidence or defense for decades old accusations. It's a bad law.", ">\n\nI'm surprised no one has challenged the expansion of statute of limitations increasing being applied retroactively based on potential conflicts with fifth amendment.\nGlad creeps are getting caught since society has changed but strange from a legal perspective.", ">\n\nHopefully this time they don’t fuck up and he stays in jail.", ">\n\nTake everything he has. POS doesn’t even get a coffin. Let them bury him naked in the dirt.", ">\n\nLol someone downvoted you for saying a rapist is bad.", ">\n\nThis dude should die in jail man, wtf.", ">\n\nNo OJ Simpson pass here. A criminal treated appropriately like a criminal.", ">\n\nHe deserves what he gets, but I feel like there are so much more worse celebrities that have gotten away with even more egregious crimes.", ">\n\nCelebrity trials keep us busy so we dont hold politician trials.", ">\n\nBut defending Cosby at all, but does this new law sound an awful lot like ex post facto or double Jeopardy? Or am I entirely misunderstanding the law? If I am, does anyone have a summary of it?", ">\n\nThe gist of the law is that the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits related to sexual assault of an adult is temporarily being extended to November 24, 2023. \nAs far as I can tell, it's not an ex post facto issue because it's not changing what counts as sexual assault. People could only be sued for conduct that met the definition of sexual assault at the time of the incident. The only thing changing is the time limit on filing the lawsuit. Additionally, it only applies to civil lawsuits, not criminal charges.\nDouble jeopardy wouldn't apply because this is an extension to file a lawsuit in the first place. It doesn't give anyone the ability to file a second lawsuit if they already filed one.", ">\n\nThank you Internet stranger!", ">\n\nMan. Using new laws to hurt old events is a bad idea.\nIt's a dangerous road sociaty needs to avoid. Or heavily steer into. But not in the middle.\nEither punish any and all potentially bad behavior, making everyone more afraid to socialize than they are now, or prosecute illegal activity. \nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior introduces a future I am scared of.", ">\n\n\nUsing new law to prosecute old behavior\n\nHe's not being prosecuted in any sense of the word. This is all a matter of civil claims, statues of limitations have been lifted/extended for several things in NYS. Rape/sexual assault being one of them.", ">\n\nPerhaps I lack the fundamental concept of this new specific law perhaps. I'll dig more into it.", ">\n\nPlease shut down his dumb comeback tour dreams", ">\n\nComing for you next Trump!", ">\n\nHe actually said he was going to do stand up again. Long walk, short pier.", ">\n\nGuess his comedy tour is kicking off in prison", ">\n\nI thought he died tbh", ">\n\nThis law will impact all sides of the political spectrum, and only lawyers will be able to afford to live in NYC.", ">\n\nOr, just don’t rape anybody!", ">\n\nThis is really weird for me. I grew up with Cosby. And at first I was like, Jesus let the past be the past. \nBut you know? The more I think about it, the happier I am that a shit heel gets fucked by his shit heel actions. \nYou do not get to escape your fucking evil shit just because time passed. And the fact that it’s taking you by surprise? That’s just frosting on the justice cake.", ">\n\nI’m sure he’ll have something hilarious to say about that in his new stand up routine", ">\n\nHe didn’t everlast after all", ">\n\nWell, there goes his come back tour...", ">\n\nInteresting similar laws in CA and NY. Any other states considering this?", ">\n\nDoes this mean Penn St University is subject to the same law? Or is it just for individuals? \nCuz if it's just for celebrities then that's kinda fucked up.", ">\n\nThis law does not apply to Penn State because:\n1) Penn State is in the State of Pennsylvania, so Pennsylvania laws apply there. The law discussed in this article is a New York State law. \n2) The important thing this law does is extend the length of time when an alleged sexual assault victim can file lawsuits related to the sexual assault. Lawsuits against Penn State and Jerry Sandusky were filed years ago so the statute of limitations wasn't relevant.", ">\n\nLeave the poor old guy alone already. Let him enjoy what's left of his life.", ">\n\nMay you never have to live with the memory of rape. He gave life sentences to so many women. He doesn't deserve to enjoy anything ever again." ]
The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.
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> We dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn Burn Putin Burn!
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire." ]
> I read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!" ]
> If you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang..." ]
> Russia - "We meant to do that".
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out." ]
> Considering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\"." ]
> -1C is hardly cold.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional…." ]
> 30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold." ]
> .... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe." ]
> but it still averages above freezing. That's a serious issue if you think about
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing." ]
> It really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about" ]
> The fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right." ]
> Always kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing." ]
> worth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. It's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames." ]
> You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Or sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the "special military operation"
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war." ]
> Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. Well... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"" ]
> Temporarily.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site." ]
> How unfortunate. It would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily." ]
> Spoiler alert: it will, again and again
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia." ]
> ‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.” The Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. “The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again" ]
> “The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”" ]
> I think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”" ]
> I agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)" ]
> Now they got those new AK-2023s
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!" ]
> So did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s" ]
> One day, it's going to be both at the same time. An ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again" ]
> The citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it." ]
> Next week "Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze"
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents." ]
> The military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"" ]
> No, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire" ]
> While I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as "blazing inferno in Russian city X". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now. Was this "a fire at a construction site" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey." ]
> Terrorism accusations from Putin incoming.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former." ]
> "This is fine" dog in Russian.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming." ]
> Even if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian." ]
> Sometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia" ]
> maybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia" ]
> I love the excuses "No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent"
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not" ]
> They sure do like their cigarettes
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"" ]
> Excellent!
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes" ]
> How many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!" ]
> Belgorod reminds me of some place in LotR.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!", ">\n\nHow many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together." ]
> An ammunition cook-off is underway? That sounds quite inviting. That's like a competitive barbecue, right? ;-)
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!", ">\n\nHow many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together.", ">\n\nBelgorod reminds me of some place in LotR." ]
> Another smoking accident
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!", ">\n\nHow many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together.", ">\n\nBelgorod reminds me of some place in LotR.", ">\n\nAn ammunition cook-off is underway? That sounds quite inviting. That's like a competitive barbecue, right? ;-)" ]
> At this point you would think they ban smoking on and around military bases by now now or deklare special Mmilitary operation against the tabac Industrie to defend themself.
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!", ">\n\nHow many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together.", ">\n\nBelgorod reminds me of some place in LotR.", ">\n\nAn ammunition cook-off is underway? That sounds quite inviting. That's like a competitive barbecue, right? ;-)", ">\n\nAnother smoking accident" ]
> Them russians really need to get their fire safety protocols up to speed. It seems their military installations are very easily flammable, given how much of them burned to the ground in the recent months...
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!", ">\n\nHow many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together.", ">\n\nBelgorod reminds me of some place in LotR.", ">\n\nAn ammunition cook-off is underway? That sounds quite inviting. That's like a competitive barbecue, right? ;-)", ">\n\nAnother smoking accident", ">\n\nAt this point you would think they ban smoking on and around military bases by now now or deklare special Mmilitary operation against the tabac Industrie to defend themself." ]
> Russia be like: “It’s part of our plan”
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!", ">\n\nHow many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together.", ">\n\nBelgorod reminds me of some place in LotR.", ">\n\nAn ammunition cook-off is underway? That sounds quite inviting. That's like a competitive barbecue, right? ;-)", ">\n\nAnother smoking accident", ">\n\nAt this point you would think they ban smoking on and around military bases by now now or deklare special Mmilitary operation against the tabac Industrie to defend themself.", ">\n\nThem russians really need to get their fire safety protocols up to speed. It seems their military installations are very easily flammable, given how much of them burned to the ground in the recent months..." ]
>
[ "The Rus, The Rus, The Rus is on fire.", ">\n\nWe dont need that Liar let the motherfucker burn\nBurn Putin Burn!", ">\n\nI read that entire thing in the voice of the Blood Hound Gang...", ">\n\nIf you don't know who Rockmaster Scott is, you are missing out.", ">\n\nRussia - \"We meant to do that\".", ">\n\nConsidering how fucking cold it is there right now, it seems like it could only be intentional….", ">\n\n-1C is hardly cold.", ">\n\n30.2F for those in the back. Summer weather for a surprisingly large bit of the globe.", ">\n\n.... 30.2F isn't summer weather for a large part of the globe. Like seriously you can just Google the Temps in the arctic and realize that it's warmer than freezing during the summer, Antarctica is colder but it still averages above freezing.", ">\n\n\nbut it still averages above freezing.\n\nThat's a serious issue if you think about", ">\n\nIt really is, looking up the average Temps for the arctic was not pleasant, I honestly wish the guy I replied to was right.", ">\n\nThe fifth largest continent, Antarctica, whose warmest month is January averages -25C during that month. Most of the Greenland ice sheets 1.7 million square kilometres never see average summer temperatures above freezing.", ">\n\nAlways kind of a tossup whether these incidents can be attributed to a Ukrainian strike or just plain Russian incompetence. Russian military assets have been known to just spontaneously burst into flames.", ">\n\nworth noting as well, you're going to get an increase in accidents when you have an increase in activity. For example, you don't usually slip and fall when you're calmly going about your business. You slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. Same goes for equipment failure. If the equipment is just sitting unused, it's not going to break or cause an accident. Once you start mobilizing it, that's when it breaks. You can't drop a crate of explosives if they never move from storage. Only when you start moving/using them can you have an accident with them. \nIt's reasonable to assume that a certain percentage of these are not from sabotage or an attack but plain old human error, which has likely increased 100 fold as a direct consequence of the war.", ">\n\n\nYou slip and fall when you're rushing or are short on sleep. \n\nOr sometimes when you're a high-ranking official and your criticize the \"special military operation\"", ">\n\n\nLocal governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence. \n\nWell... yesterday it was a military facility. Today it's a construction site.", ">\n\nTemporarily.", ">\n\nHow unfortunate. \nIt would be even more unfortunate if it happened again and again and again at other similar facilities across Russia.", ">\n\nSpoiler alert: it will, again and again", ">\n\n‘Local governor Andrey Gridnev claimed the accident was merely a “fire at a temporary construction site,” as a result of workplace negligence.”\nThe Ukrainian army could march in the streets of Moscow and they would still spit this BS. \n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns.”", ">\n\n“The Ukrainian army has surrendered. They are here to mow your lawns….with an AK-47”", ">\n\nI think the Ukrainian army has much better assault rifles these days than AK-47s—though you are likely quoting a Russian source, so its accuracy is dubious at best. ;-)", ">\n\nI agree, I know Ukraine have better guns, but not being a gun person, this is the only gun I know!", ">\n\nNow they got those new AK-2023s", ">\n\nSo did Ukraine hit another ammo dump or were the Russians just tossing lit cigarettes everywhere again", ">\n\nOne day, it's going to be both at the same time.\nAn ammo dump explodes due to incompetence. And then a missile/drone hits it.", ">\n\nThe citizens have been instructed that there is no immediate danger, but they ought to take up vaping to avoid further incidents.", ">\n\nNext week\n\"Vape battery explodes setting munitions depot ablaze\"", ">\n\nThe military facility probably fell out of a tenth floor window and caused the fire", ">\n\nNo, no. This is the building where we keep our fire. See? Very firey.", ">\n\nWhile I certainly believe some of the recent fires all over Russia were either the work of Ukrainian agents or pissed-off Russians - probably most of it are just regular accidents that would not have made it to global news just a year ago, and of course the media right now will milk every burning outhouse as \"blazing inferno in Russian city X\". Because that's exactly what gets you clicks right now.\nWas this \"a fire at a construction site\" or someone deliberately blowing up a munitions storage facility? I'm slightly inclined to believe the latter, given the pictures and witness reports, but I would also not be surprised if it's just the former.", ">\n\nTerrorism accusations from Putin incoming.", ">\n\n\"This is fine\" dog in Russian.", ">\n\nEven if russia didn't have an army, nobody would invade russia", ">\n\nSometimes I wonder if this is from Ukraine or from disgruntled soldiers in Russia", ">\n\nmaybe Russia will ban smoking all together.... hahahha not", ">\n\nI love the excuses\n\"No the Ukrainians didn't do this. We're just incompetent\"", ">\n\nThey sure do like their cigarettes", ">\n\nExcellent!", ">\n\nHow many times do we gotta tell em vodka and cigarettes don't mix well together.", ">\n\nBelgorod reminds me of some place in LotR.", ">\n\nAn ammunition cook-off is underway? That sounds quite inviting. That's like a competitive barbecue, right? ;-)", ">\n\nAnother smoking accident", ">\n\nAt this point you would think they ban smoking on and around military bases by now now or deklare special Mmilitary operation against the tabac Industrie to defend themself.", ">\n\nThem russians really need to get their fire safety protocols up to speed. It seems their military installations are very easily flammable, given how much of them burned to the ground in the recent months...", ">\n\nRussia be like:\n“It’s part of our plan”" ]
If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. Why would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?
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> Especially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?" ]
> If the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything. Your personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those. But opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge). These are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good." ]
> Alot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check." ]
> Things like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge. You have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge." ]
> I don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. Now things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents." ]
> You allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business." ]
> Why would you look in the fridge?
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there." ]
> I've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?" ]
> That still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure." ]
> Just because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it." ]
> I'm my country it generally is. The only appliance that stays is the oven and maybe the dishwasher.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.", ">\n\nJust because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is." ]
> That’s insane to me. I’ve had 12 big moves in my life. Each time, appliances were included with the house. I can’t imagine having to buy new appliances every time you move. Appliances aren’t universal, and can’t be moved from one house and be guaranteed to hook up or fit in the next one.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.", ">\n\nJust because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is.", ">\n\nI'm my country it generally is. The only appliance that stays is the oven and maybe the dishwasher." ]
> Whenever I've moved most of the appliances come too and I've never had a problem setting them up in the new house.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.", ">\n\nJust because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is.", ">\n\nI'm my country it generally is. The only appliance that stays is the oven and maybe the dishwasher.", ">\n\nThat’s insane to me.\nI’ve had 12 big moves in my life. Each time, appliances were included with the house.\nI can’t imagine having to buy new appliances every time you move. Appliances aren’t universal, and can’t be moved from one house and be guaranteed to hook up or fit in the next one." ]
> How is this unpopular? This is just common sense.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.", ">\n\nJust because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is.", ">\n\nI'm my country it generally is. The only appliance that stays is the oven and maybe the dishwasher.", ">\n\nThat’s insane to me.\nI’ve had 12 big moves in my life. Each time, appliances were included with the house.\nI can’t imagine having to buy new appliances every time you move. Appliances aren’t universal, and can’t be moved from one house and be guaranteed to hook up or fit in the next one.", ">\n\nWhenever I've moved most of the appliances come too and I've never had a problem setting them up in the new house." ]
> I came here ready to say this isn't unpopular, but apparently I'm wrong. The one time someone has shown a place I was living in, I actively refused to let them open anything. Straight up followed them and told them not to, and refused to let them in my bedroom. They can go look at an empty apartment if they care that much. So yeah, I'm with you OP.
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.", ">\n\nJust because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is.", ">\n\nI'm my country it generally is. The only appliance that stays is the oven and maybe the dishwasher.", ">\n\nThat’s insane to me.\nI’ve had 12 big moves in my life. Each time, appliances were included with the house.\nI can’t imagine having to buy new appliances every time you move. Appliances aren’t universal, and can’t be moved from one house and be guaranteed to hook up or fit in the next one.", ">\n\nWhenever I've moved most of the appliances come too and I've never had a problem setting them up in the new house.", ">\n\nHow is this unpopular? This is just common sense." ]
> I agree with you but how is this unpopular?
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.", ">\n\nJust because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is.", ">\n\nI'm my country it generally is. The only appliance that stays is the oven and maybe the dishwasher.", ">\n\nThat’s insane to me.\nI’ve had 12 big moves in my life. Each time, appliances were included with the house.\nI can’t imagine having to buy new appliances every time you move. Appliances aren’t universal, and can’t be moved from one house and be guaranteed to hook up or fit in the next one.", ">\n\nWhenever I've moved most of the appliances come too and I've never had a problem setting them up in the new house.", ">\n\nHow is this unpopular? This is just common sense.", ">\n\nI came here ready to say this isn't unpopular, but apparently I'm wrong. The one time someone has shown a place I was living in, I actively refused to let them open anything. Straight up followed them and told them not to, and refused to let them in my bedroom. They can go look at an empty apartment if they care that much. \nSo yeah, I'm with you OP." ]
>
[ "If the apartment or house is for sale/rent I'm going to look in/at everything that comes with it. \nWhy would I buy or rent a house if I'm not able to inspect what I'm getting?", ">\n\nEspecially the kitchens, they can hide water damage very good.", ">\n\nIf the drawer and fridge are going to still be there when they buy/rent the space, then no. They should be allowed to open and check everything.\nYour personal furniture, such as your dressers and whatnot, are obviously off limits. There’s no reason to check those.\nBut opening cabinets and drawers is basic shit. You want to make sure that they open, that there’s no problem with the hardware, that there aren’t any signs of bugs or pests, that there’s no sign of mold. You want to make sure the fridge has adequate space inside (because no, you can’t always tell by looking at a closed fridge).\nThese are basic things that a potential buyer/renter should be allowed to check.", ">\n\nAlot if fridge isn't staying with the apartment you might have to mention that. Only one apartment I saw didn't come with a fridge.", ">\n\nThings like fridges and cabinets makes sense, you'd want to know how much space there is and if everything looks good. So that, for example, there isn't mold in the fridge.\nYou have all the right to empty your fridge and cabinets before a showing of your apartment if you're ashamed of its contents.", ">\n\nI don't know...I think all of the things that will be coming with the house/apartment are 100% fair game to be looked at/in. If someone is considering buying or renting a home obviously they want to see what the closets, the kitchen and bathroom cupboards, the fridge, the oven, the shower, etc are like. \nNow things that belong to the current tenant are a different story. Obviously someone checking the place out has no reason whatsoever to look in things like bureaus, end tables, night stands, etc. Furniture that will be leaving before they move in is clearly none of their business.", ">\n\nYou allowed them in to see the space, that's permission enough. It's not as if you didn't understand you were allowing them in to look around. You didn't think they were coming for tea and then suddenly they started nosing around. Looking around is the whole reason they are there.", ">\n\nWhy would you look in the fridge?", ">\n\nI've moved around a lot and I can tell you that several of my fridges have been rusted heavily on the inside, and missing guard rails for door storage. Losing out on a shelf of storage is a pretty big deal, or a fruit/veggie/meat drawer. It can be a deal breaker for sure.", ">\n\nThat still makes no sense to me. I have never moved into a house that already had a fridge in it.", ">\n\nJust because you have never moved into a house that included a fridge doesn't mean that's always how it is.", ">\n\nI'm my country it generally is. The only appliance that stays is the oven and maybe the dishwasher.", ">\n\nThat’s insane to me.\nI’ve had 12 big moves in my life. Each time, appliances were included with the house.\nI can’t imagine having to buy new appliances every time you move. Appliances aren’t universal, and can’t be moved from one house and be guaranteed to hook up or fit in the next one.", ">\n\nWhenever I've moved most of the appliances come too and I've never had a problem setting them up in the new house.", ">\n\nHow is this unpopular? This is just common sense.", ">\n\nI came here ready to say this isn't unpopular, but apparently I'm wrong. The one time someone has shown a place I was living in, I actively refused to let them open anything. Straight up followed them and told them not to, and refused to let them in my bedroom. They can go look at an empty apartment if they care that much. \nSo yeah, I'm with you OP.", ">\n\nI agree with you but how is this unpopular?" ]
Sometimes one may be sick by asymptomatic. Wearing a mask is being considerate to the other party.
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> This isn’t an unpopular opinion. It’s just plain stupid. Uhhh… hello???? Covid ??? RSV??? Wearing a mask is a sign of respect for others well-being
[ "Sometimes one may be sick by asymptomatic. Wearing a mask is being considerate to the other party." ]