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This will never get old. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing."
] |
>
Republicans are evil. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old."
] |
>
Sadly no one was shocked | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil."
] |
>
A second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked"
] |
>
The "party of law and order & family values" strikes again. Republicans are the problem. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping"
] |
> | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem."
] |
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And republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican.. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">"
] |
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Leave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican.."
] |
>
/r/moderatepolitics : crickets.
/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable! | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up."
] |
>
I am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known??? | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!"
] |
>
I think this is just the beginning. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???"
] |
>
When are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning."
] |
>
But, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk."
] |
>
Typical Republican. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists"
] |
>
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican."
] |
>
*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon."
] |
>
There was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry."
] |
>
ANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead."
] |
>
Jesus, who writes these headlines?
FTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.” | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle."
] |
>
The first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”"
] |
>
If they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point? | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate"
] |
>
We keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?"
] |
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And the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why? | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point"
] |
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IRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?"
] |
>
Dang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this"
] |
>
This must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks"
] |
>
Not that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans? | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about"
] |
>
This is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?"
] |
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GOP and violence | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?",
">\n\nThis is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover."
] |
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my hope is that that overt fascism in the US is self defeating, because they are all too batshit to organize and plan. | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?",
">\n\nThis is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover.",
">\n\nGOP and violence"
] |
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Sooo terrorist | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?",
">\n\nThis is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover.",
">\n\nGOP and violence",
">\n\nmy hope is that that overt fascism in the US is self defeating, because they are all too batshit to organize and plan."
] |
>
Sad but there will be more of these lunatics carrying out the new gop message
America has to stomp out and obliterate these racist coward trump loving cults | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?",
">\n\nThis is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover.",
">\n\nGOP and violence",
">\n\nmy hope is that that overt fascism in the US is self defeating, because they are all too batshit to organize and plan.",
">\n\nSooo terrorist"
] |
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Patriots, amirite? | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?",
">\n\nThis is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover.",
">\n\nGOP and violence",
">\n\nmy hope is that that overt fascism in the US is self defeating, because they are all too batshit to organize and plan.",
">\n\nSooo terrorist",
">\n\nSad but there will be more of these lunatics carrying out the new gop message\nAmerica has to stomp out and obliterate these racist coward trump loving cults"
] |
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Just a typical republican if the GOP was a labor union the government would have taken them over years ago | [
"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?",
">\n\nThis is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover.",
">\n\nGOP and violence",
">\n\nmy hope is that that overt fascism in the US is self defeating, because they are all too batshit to organize and plan.",
">\n\nSooo terrorist",
">\n\nSad but there will be more of these lunatics carrying out the new gop message\nAmerica has to stomp out and obliterate these racist coward trump loving cults",
">\n\nPatriots, amirite?"
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"Failed Republican candidate \n\nHe may be a failed candidate, but he sure does seem to have succeeded in being a Republican.",
">\n\nNext steps are to say it was a joke, blame Jewish space lasers, promote Trump over Bible, and he’ll be the next VP.",
">\n\nI think the Whitmer kidnappers had a good plan: claim anyone who squealed was an FBI agent and then cry about \"entrapment.\"",
">\n\nMAGA Domestic Terrorism continues.",
">\n\nIsn’t this attempted murder? They shot into a 10 year old daughter’s bedroom.",
">\n\nYes. But I'm sure rules are different given this is another Domestic Terrorist (Republican)",
">\n\nWhat’s the definition of terrorism? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n\"It is still unclear if the shootings were politically motivated.\" /s",
">\n\nbOtH SiDeS tHoUgH, RiGhT?",
">\n\n“WeLl AckShully he’S A rEgiSterD DuMboCraT and ah shit…”",
">\n\n\nI will be rewarded\n\nThat's what all fascists think.",
">\n\nHe meant financially. All he has to do is claim it's rigged and spam a link for donations, and then he'd be set for life.",
">\n\nWell that's just confirms another projection made by MTG when she claimed the shootings have begun in regards to the killing of a kid because he was republican. \nThe shootings indeed have begun but republicans are the ones pulling the trigger",
">\n\nNot surprised. A republican doing republican things when they lose, this is only going to get worse.",
">\n\nSurely, no GOP could be worse than George Santos.\nSolomon Peña, hold my muddafukkin beer homey",
">\n\n19 felonies. How was this dude not locked up for life?",
">\n\nPut him in a cell with George Santos.",
">\n\nIf we don't hear republican politicians speak out against this domestic terrorism tomorrow, all hope is lost for that party. Not addressing the issue, is tacit support at this point.",
">\n\nThey will probably laugh about it like they laughed about Nancy pelosi’s husband while he was in the ICU.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy and his co-conspirators. Charge them with terrorism in federal court.",
">\n\n\nYou can't chare failed political candidates with crimes within 4 years of a presidential election. You know...fairness and all.\n\nOur DOJ, probably",
">\n\nI am Jack's complete lack of suprise.",
">\n\n\n\"It is believed that he is the mastermind behind this,\" Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said at a press conference on Monday.\n\nI think it is a bit of stretch to use the term \"mastermind\".",
">\n\nFunky Ironic Medina.",
">\n\nOf course he’s Republican, softest group of people",
">\n\nRepublicans really really want a civil war. Wait till they find out liberals also own and know how to use guns.",
">\n\nWe just don't make it our identity",
">\n\nPretty much any time somebody talks to me at the range, they just assume I'm right wing. I never bother to disabuse them.",
">\n\nMy experience in the service. I was just hoping to get money for my liberal college education. Even weirder since I’m a minority.",
">\n\nYeah I'm middle aged white guy living in Texas. People assume right away that I'll agree with their MAGA insanity.",
">\n\nTo be fair it’s insane how many people have shown themselves since 2016. Kevin McHale (played with Celtics, former Timberwolves GM and coach) was at a trump rally and I was kinda shocked. His family was known for giving out king size candy at Halloween.",
">\n\nYeah I can't wait for it to be socially unacceptable to be a racist douchebag again.. if it ever happens.",
">\n\nI'm not a fan of the prison system in the US, but this guy is no ordinary criminal. He's someone who has been poisoned by the lies of the GOP. It's incumbent on whoever the judge is in this case to make an example out of Pena to make sure that this nonsense doesn't continue. There are literally millions of GOP voters who are also poisoned by the election lies, and if this piece of shit isn't sentenced to at least 30 years, they'll just continue where this asshole started.",
">\n\nYou're not wrong about our prison system, especially the private, for-profit prisons like we have in my right wing shit hole state.Their lobbyist pay off our politicians to keep the laws as draconian and harsh as possible so they can fill them up with mostly non violent \"offenders.\" Marijuana laws are a big one here in Indiana, 45 minutes up the road i can go into any number of dispensaries and legally purchase my meds that make my life tolerable without being made to feel like a criminal, here your life is ruined if you're caught. I do not understand why lobbying is even allowed, how is this not bribery? They're purchasing legislation in their favor. And that's just one small aspect of the complete failure of our prison system..\nAs far as this particular republican terrorist and the rest of the supporters (cult members) are concerned, I would argue that most of these people were not suddenly converted into monsters because of GOP lies, they were always terrible, hateful people and were simply emboldened by the lies, blatant racism, and conspiracy bs. I've lived among these people my entire life and I assure you, they are worse than you think.\nEdit: typos",
">\n\nHe spent 7 years in jail (I think) for a smash and grab scheme he was involved in. Seems like he made some connections in jail",
">\n\nHomegrown Fascist Terrorist Republican!",
">\n\nTucker Carlson: \"Why is he being charged when he never pulled the trigger? Liberals are on tv constantly complaining about the lack of jobs, and when this man hires four people they lose their minds! This is an obvious attack on our second amendment rights.\"",
">\n\nToo mild a defence. Tucker will go straight to “We’re hearing murmurs about Santos being a Liberal plant. Now-this has NOTHING to do with his professed sexuality, and I understand, that’s his choooice.” But we need to ask the question. Why did the Democratic Party sooo conveniently* neglect to do even one iota of oppo research on this clown? I think the answer is simple. I think YOU are smart enough to know the answer yourselves.”",
">\n\nKilling your political opponents? Pretty sure that’s domestic terrorism. Is anyone surprised anymore by Right Wing terrorism?",
">\n\nThey are all Domestic Terrorists now.",
">\n\nIt most assuredly is. And conspiracy.",
">\n\nWatch him get probation.",
">\n\nWhen a mass shooter in Buffalo targeted a black supermarket last year, influenced by the gospel of Tucker Carlson, I thought, “maybe the media should stop normalizing the worrying radicalization of the Republican Party?”. But all was forgotten once the next news cycle arrived. It will happen this time too, and the next would-be political killer might succeed.",
">\n\nThis is what’s most disgusting about conservative politics.\nAny other group that engaged in this behavior would be systemically prosecuted for this behavior. At minimum, we’d be hearing conservatives call for profiling and torture. But the rest of us just have to live with these people’s constant insistence that the unpopularity of their beliefs and ideas justifies their violence.",
">\n\nConservatives are domestic terrorists",
">\n\nRepublicans. What can’t they do?",
">\n\nThink rationally, comprehend basic science, compose a coherent thought or sentence, math, mind their own fucking business, keep their draconian legislation out of our country, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...\nOh, that was rhetorical 🤷♂️😁",
">\n\nNew Mexico police arrested a failed candidate for the state legislature in connection with a string of January shootings that appeared to be targeting prominent local Democratic officials.\nThis is a breaking news story and will be updated with new information.",
">\n\nThe gqp is never tired of losing.",
">\n\nThis will never get old.",
">\n\nRepublicans are evil.",
">\n\nSadly no one was shocked",
">\n\nA second raid now? The popcorn keeps popping",
">\n\nThe \"party of law and order & family values\" strikes again. Republicans are the problem.",
">",
">\n\nAnd republicans wonder why gen z is vowing to never vote republican..",
">\n\nLeave it to a Republican to be evil enough to try to get someone to shoot his opponents, and yet incompetent enough to completely fuck it up.",
">\n\n/r/moderatepolitics : crickets. \n/r/moderatepolitics when people protests in front of justices home: the violent left needs to be held accountable!",
">\n\nI am just so surprised that an election denier would resort to violence if they don't like the results. Who could have known???",
">\n\nI think this is just the beginning.",
">\n\nWhen are people going to realize that the GOP is just a party that supports domestic terrorism? Maybe they do already and that’s really what the trumpanzies support? Idk.",
">\n\nBut, sure. We really need to watch out for all those Left Wing Extremists",
">\n\nTypical Republican.",
">\n\nViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -Hari Seldon.",
">\n\n*And American conservatives. Except they say it loud and proud, like a rallying cry.",
">\n\nThere was nothing at the center of Benghazi (all presidents lose staff to terrorism) or the email-gate nonsense, but those never-ending lies cost Hillary Clinton the presidency and gave us the world's dumbest (and, fortunately, laziest) crime boss instead.",
">\n\nANOTHER whitey from Shootervillle.",
">\n\nJesus, who writes these headlines?\nFTFY: “Failed Republican Candidate Linked to Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats.”",
">\n\nThe first of many. I just don't see how we avoid a civil war at this rate",
">\n\nIf they get away with this then.... I don't even know, does it matter at this point?",
">\n\nWe keep saying not everyone should have guns and right wingers just keep proving our point",
">\n\nAnd the GOP isnt a terrorist organization because...why?",
">\n\nIRL breaking bad, but about political races? Wtf, no one wants this",
">\n\nDang, Peña used to be a powerful name in midwest politics, wonder if he's related to the Colorado folks",
">\n\nThis must be the good guy with a gun those republicans keep talking about",
">\n\nNot that a close election justifies fraud talk but this nob lost 74-26%, so a wipeout. But of course he’s so far up his own ass he thinks there were shenanigans?",
">\n\nThis is barely hitting the news. 10 years ago, it would have been non-stop reported. The Republican party has succeeded in normalizing this type of violence, which is a key part to their fascist takeover.",
">\n\nGOP and violence",
">\n\nmy hope is that that overt fascism in the US is self defeating, because they are all too batshit to organize and plan.",
">\n\nSooo terrorist",
">\n\nSad but there will be more of these lunatics carrying out the new gop message\nAmerica has to stomp out and obliterate these racist coward trump loving cults",
">\n\nPatriots, amirite?",
">\n\nJust a typical republican if the GOP was a labor union the government would have taken them over years ago"
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Thank you! I had great fun doing it, and of course already aching to build more 😅 | [
"WOW! Love the look of it! Thinking of doing something similar with my K6 once my gradient keycaps arrive too! Great work!"
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"WOW! Love the look of it! Thinking of doing something similar with my K6 once my gradient keycaps arrive too! Great work!",
">\n\nThank you! I had great fun doing it, and of course already aching to build more 😅"
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"WOW! Love the look of it! Thinking of doing something similar with my K6 once my gradient keycaps arrive too! Great work!",
">\n\nThank you! I had great fun doing it, and of course already aching to build more 😅",
">\n\nHaha I feel that! I just built my K6 the other week, and I've already ordered a V1 to fill with cream yellows! The obsession is strong with me right now!"
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"WOW! Love the look of it! Thinking of doing something similar with my K6 once my gradient keycaps arrive too! Great work!",
">\n\nThank you! I had great fun doing it, and of course already aching to build more 😅",
">\n\nHaha I feel that! I just built my K6 the other week, and I've already ordered a V1 to fill with cream yellows! The obsession is strong with me right now!",
">\n\nIt sounds great!!"
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Trump said that there would be "honest elections overnight" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for "far away" military members and people who are very sick.
Maga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct. | [] |
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Love the “far away” bit.
The bestest bigliest words. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct."
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"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote." | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words."
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Deployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\""
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Nice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it.... | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff."
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He can't quit, won't quit.
He added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is "an honest vote count."
Trump said that there would be "honest elections overnight" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for "far away" military members and people who are very sick.
"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now," Trump said. "So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns."
He added that all he wants is to not see "fake ballots" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it...."
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Can he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing??? | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S."
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Pretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???"
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No thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican."
] |
>
Demand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections."
] |
>
Former President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday?
Well Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s"
] |
>
Demand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate."
] |
>
Compromise: Ronna McDonald's. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it."
] |
>
“Ronna Romney McDonalds” is fun af to say | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it.",
">\n\nCompromise: Ronna McDonald's."
] |
>
Ronald who? | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it.",
">\n\nCompromise: Ronna McDonald's.",
">\n\n“Ronna Romney McDonalds” is fun af to say"
] |
>
Kelly Anne Conway is angling for rnc chair. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it.",
">\n\nCompromise: Ronna McDonald's.",
">\n\n“Ronna Romney McDonalds” is fun af to say",
">\n\nRonald who?"
] |
>
I’m so confused.
If George Santos were laying out his demands to become RNC chair this headline would be clocking every lie he’s ever told.
If DT does it they pretend it’s normal. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it.",
">\n\nCompromise: Ronna McDonald's.",
">\n\n“Ronna Romney McDonalds” is fun af to say",
">\n\nRonald who?",
">\n\nKelly Anne Conway is angling for rnc chair."
] |
>
We don't negotiate with terrorists | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it.",
">\n\nCompromise: Ronna McDonald's.",
">\n\n“Ronna Romney McDonalds” is fun af to say",
">\n\nRonald who?",
">\n\nKelly Anne Conway is angling for rnc chair.",
">\n\nI’m so confused.\nIf George Santos were laying out his demands to become RNC chair this headline would be clocking every lie he’s ever told. \nIf DT does it they pretend it’s normal."
] |
>
"Demands" may be too strong a word at this point. | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it.",
">\n\nCompromise: Ronna McDonald's.",
">\n\n“Ronna Romney McDonalds” is fun af to say",
">\n\nRonald who?",
">\n\nKelly Anne Conway is angling for rnc chair.",
">\n\nI’m so confused.\nIf George Santos were laying out his demands to become RNC chair this headline would be clocking every lie he’s ever told. \nIf DT does it they pretend it’s normal.",
">\n\nWe don't negotiate with terrorists"
] |
> | [
"Trump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\nMaga will eat this shit and believe it. The guys at the top telling them voting by mail is corrupt will keep voting by mail. He really sees his base as dumbasses. He’s correct.",
">\n\nLove the “far away” bit. \nThe bestest bigliest words.",
">\n\n\"Sorry, but where you're deployed isn't classified as 'far away' enough so you can't mail in your vote. You need to vote in person on Election Day. However, you also can't get leave to go home to vote.\"",
">\n\nDeployed is the opposite of employed. Believe me. I have an uncle in army… stuff.",
">\n\nNice RNC you got over there, would be a shame if something happened to it....",
">\n\nHe can't quit, won't quit.\nHe added that the one thing he needs as the RNC is poised to select a chair later this month is \"an honest vote count.\"\nTrump said that there would be \"honest elections overnight\" with voter identification requirements, one-day voting all done on paper and no mail-in ballots except for \"far away\" military members and people who are very sick.\n\"We have very dishonest, corrupt elections right now,\" Trump said. \"So we need whoever's going to do the best on voting day. I don't want any help with campaigns.\"\nHe added that all he wants is to not see \"fake ballots\" in future votes, reiterating his often-repeated but unproven claims of election fraud in the U.S.",
">\n\nCan he show us these fake ballots he can't stop seeing???",
">\n\nPretty sure that 99.9% of them were republican.",
">\n\nNo thanks! He doesn't get to dictate how states run elections.",
">\n\nDemand: Votes will be done by prayer. /s",
">\n\nFormer President Donald Trump did not throw his support behind a Republican National Committee (RNC) chair candidate during an interview on Monday? \nWell Duh! He doesn't want to pick ANOTHER losing candidate.",
">\n\nDemand: Ronna Romney McDaniels has to change her name again to his wishes. Last time he demanded she change it to Ronna McDaniels and she did it. This time to Ronna Trump. I’m betting she does it.",
">\n\nCompromise: Ronna McDonald's.",
">\n\n“Ronna Romney McDonalds” is fun af to say",
">\n\nRonald who?",
">\n\nKelly Anne Conway is angling for rnc chair.",
">\n\nI’m so confused.\nIf George Santos were laying out his demands to become RNC chair this headline would be clocking every lie he’s ever told. \nIf DT does it they pretend it’s normal.",
">\n\nWe don't negotiate with terrorists",
">\n\n\"Demands\" may be too strong a word at this point."
] |
Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.
First
I've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.
This can be true,
However, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.
And this can so be true.
You can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are "overcoming it"
So you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health. | [] |
>
Mind and body are connected.
Working out releases endorphins which feel good.
It may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.
As someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health."
] |
>
I don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.
When I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it."
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I don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.
By that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles."
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By that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.
In a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.
When you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed."
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It cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help."
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I've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.
Yes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.
Working out can give you bursts of "happiness" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.
However, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up
Each person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.
That is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought.
Yep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.
People react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout."
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The problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?
It seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say "I'm too depressed" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut."
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I used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years.
I now realized how deceiving the word "laziness" is. Almost no one is truly "lazy". Even if people are "lazy", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.
The reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.
The difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.
Humans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.
There are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life."
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Willpower has nothing to do with depression. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back."
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"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression."
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I think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation.
I think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true.
If i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.
if I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.
With a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.
but if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.
Working out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling "fun workouts" or "at home workouts" or "easy work outs". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective"
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What exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation.
Depression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be.
Gaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism.
As with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process."
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However, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.
1, Not what depression is or how it functions. I was diagnosed with depression and depression itself is very much a long-term problem, not a short-term state of mind. There were days I was happy, days I was sad, days I was manic, etc... The problem was the "average" mood/motivation/energy level to which always return. Which was pretty low. It's perfectly possible to work out (find the energy, find the motivation, etc...) on good days. And even continue doing it on bad days if you built up the routine.
2, Not how everybody sees working out. To me, working out was very much the coping mechanism for my depression. You know how when you procrastinate you do everything but your homework? Well, that's how working out felt to me, it was the procrastination. It wasn't something I had to motivate myself to do, I was doing it gladly. It was everything else that was the problem for me.
You finding the willpower to start working out means you were already overcoming it.
Nope, wrong. You can have severe depression while living an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Or while having a happy marriage, or while going out with friends on most nights. None of these is indicative of CURING or OVERCOMING depression. That's the scary part about depression. You can feel like a low-energy wreck who wants to die during any of these lifestyles. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation. \nDepression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be. \nGaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism. \nAs with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression."
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First of all, no one really says "cures" like an antibiotic cures and infection. That individuals report this is akin to them saying that great relationship cured it, or finding god, or focusing on job or school and so on. The narratives of what helps someone overcome depression are always simplified and should not be taken as truths that it will always work for everyone.
Can depression prevent someone from pulling it together and getting exercise? Yes. But...does exercise change the chemistry of the body and mind? Yes, and in ways that improve mood. You seem to interpret others narratives of personal experience as if they are a prescription that is 100% foolproof and I don't think people are saying that. But, you swing the pendulum too far - exercise can improve mental state, period. Can depression prevent you from exercising? Sure. Must it? No, not for everyone.
The "probably in a better place than you thought" is akin to saying to someone "hey...you're not REALLY depressed", which is something you should generally avoid doing! | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation. \nDepression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be. \nGaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism. \nAs with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression.",
">\n\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\n1, Not what depression is or how it functions. I was diagnosed with depression and depression itself is very much a long-term problem, not a short-term state of mind. There were days I was happy, days I was sad, days I was manic, etc... The problem was the \"average\" mood/motivation/energy level to which always return. Which was pretty low. It's perfectly possible to work out (find the energy, find the motivation, etc...) on good days. And even continue doing it on bad days if you built up the routine.\n2, Not how everybody sees working out. To me, working out was very much the coping mechanism for my depression. You know how when you procrastinate you do everything but your homework? Well, that's how working out felt to me, it was the procrastination. It wasn't something I had to motivate myself to do, I was doing it gladly. It was everything else that was the problem for me. \n\nYou finding the willpower to start working out means you were already overcoming it.\n\nNope, wrong. You can have severe depression while living an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Or while having a happy marriage, or while going out with friends on most nights. None of these is indicative of CURING or OVERCOMING depression. That's the scary part about depression. You can feel like a low-energy wreck who wants to die during any of these lifestyles."
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For me working out isn't just a "productive habit" but it instead provides me with tangible mental benefits: My overall mood will improve, my anxious thoughts become less "sticky", I feel more relaxed, and I generally start thinking more positively. The effects of working out are very similar to the effects of my antidepressant (flouxetine) minus the improved sleep. Another big difference is the timing. Flouxetine took around 2-3 weeks before I felt something but the effect is pretty much permanent (as long as I take it I assume). Going to the gym on the other hand provides immediate relief but the effects decay over the next ~12h.
And this brings me to my main point. For me it's super easy to go to the gym during depressive episodes because I know that doing so will provide immediate relief. Furthermore I will generally start to sleep less and lose interest in my other hobbies, so there's pretty much nothing that competes with my time. Being physically active also doesn't require mental energy since the movements happen pretty much subconsciously so this isn't even a factor. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation. \nDepression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be. \nGaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism. \nAs with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression.",
">\n\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\n1, Not what depression is or how it functions. I was diagnosed with depression and depression itself is very much a long-term problem, not a short-term state of mind. There were days I was happy, days I was sad, days I was manic, etc... The problem was the \"average\" mood/motivation/energy level to which always return. Which was pretty low. It's perfectly possible to work out (find the energy, find the motivation, etc...) on good days. And even continue doing it on bad days if you built up the routine.\n2, Not how everybody sees working out. To me, working out was very much the coping mechanism for my depression. You know how when you procrastinate you do everything but your homework? Well, that's how working out felt to me, it was the procrastination. It wasn't something I had to motivate myself to do, I was doing it gladly. It was everything else that was the problem for me. \n\nYou finding the willpower to start working out means you were already overcoming it.\n\nNope, wrong. You can have severe depression while living an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Or while having a happy marriage, or while going out with friends on most nights. None of these is indicative of CURING or OVERCOMING depression. That's the scary part about depression. You can feel like a low-energy wreck who wants to die during any of these lifestyles.",
">\n\nFirst of all, no one really says \"cures\" like an antibiotic cures and infection. That individuals report this is akin to them saying that great relationship cured it, or finding god, or focusing on job or school and so on. The narratives of what helps someone overcome depression are always simplified and should not be taken as truths that it will always work for everyone.\nCan depression prevent someone from pulling it together and getting exercise? Yes. But...does exercise change the chemistry of the body and mind? Yes, and in ways that improve mood. You seem to interpret others narratives of personal experience as if they are a prescription that is 100% foolproof and I don't think people are saying that. But, you swing the pendulum too far - exercise can improve mental state, period. Can depression prevent you from exercising? Sure. Must it? No, not for everyone.\nThe \"probably in a better place than you thought\" is akin to saying to someone \"hey...you're not REALLY depressed\", which is something you should generally avoid doing!"
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Have you tried it?
However, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up and stick with it. When heavily in a rut it is hard to find such surplus willpower because so much of it is used to get through life.
I totally agree with the idea that some people are just completely clueless about how debilitating mental illness can be, and people simply can't just "power through it".
However, I don't think that that is the lowest point.
That is actually a point of equilibrium.
For me, I've not been motivated at all to do anything the past 10+ years. I was sleeping upwards of 20 hours a day.
But in a few rare events, my depression/anhedonia got SO BAD, that I just couldn't take it anymore. I HAD to get up and do something.
There were times I wouldn't clean my room for MONTHS. I had garbage piling up like mountains.
But when depression got so bad, I just couldn't even stay still. I couldn't sleep. I just kept pacing back and forth in my room, until eventually I just decided screw it, might as well clean it up cuz I can't go back to sleep or anything anyway.
I also got back to swimming; once back in 2018 when the first wave of my depression hit, and again this year, when the 2nd wave hit;
I feel SO much better after a swim or a cold shower. It's literally like night and day. All of my worries, my misery just completely disappears for a short while after those activities. It's like magic.
Once you're out of the actual 'lowest point', that's when you reach an equilibrium level of misery where you're still depressed enough to have no motivation, but it's not so bad that it actually motivates you to change your situation. | [
"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation. \nDepression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be. \nGaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism. \nAs with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression.",
">\n\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\n1, Not what depression is or how it functions. I was diagnosed with depression and depression itself is very much a long-term problem, not a short-term state of mind. There were days I was happy, days I was sad, days I was manic, etc... The problem was the \"average\" mood/motivation/energy level to which always return. Which was pretty low. It's perfectly possible to work out (find the energy, find the motivation, etc...) on good days. And even continue doing it on bad days if you built up the routine.\n2, Not how everybody sees working out. To me, working out was very much the coping mechanism for my depression. You know how when you procrastinate you do everything but your homework? Well, that's how working out felt to me, it was the procrastination. It wasn't something I had to motivate myself to do, I was doing it gladly. It was everything else that was the problem for me. \n\nYou finding the willpower to start working out means you were already overcoming it.\n\nNope, wrong. You can have severe depression while living an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Or while having a happy marriage, or while going out with friends on most nights. None of these is indicative of CURING or OVERCOMING depression. That's the scary part about depression. You can feel like a low-energy wreck who wants to die during any of these lifestyles.",
">\n\nFirst of all, no one really says \"cures\" like an antibiotic cures and infection. That individuals report this is akin to them saying that great relationship cured it, or finding god, or focusing on job or school and so on. The narratives of what helps someone overcome depression are always simplified and should not be taken as truths that it will always work for everyone.\nCan depression prevent someone from pulling it together and getting exercise? Yes. But...does exercise change the chemistry of the body and mind? Yes, and in ways that improve mood. You seem to interpret others narratives of personal experience as if they are a prescription that is 100% foolproof and I don't think people are saying that. But, you swing the pendulum too far - exercise can improve mental state, period. Can depression prevent you from exercising? Sure. Must it? No, not for everyone.\nThe \"probably in a better place than you thought\" is akin to saying to someone \"hey...you're not REALLY depressed\", which is something you should generally avoid doing!",
">\n\nFor me working out isn't just a \"productive habit\" but it instead provides me with tangible mental benefits: My overall mood will improve, my anxious thoughts become less \"sticky\", I feel more relaxed, and I generally start thinking more positively. The effects of working out are very similar to the effects of my antidepressant (flouxetine) minus the improved sleep. Another big difference is the timing. Flouxetine took around 2-3 weeks before I felt something but the effect is pretty much permanent (as long as I take it I assume). Going to the gym on the other hand provides immediate relief but the effects decay over the next ~12h.\nAnd this brings me to my main point. For me it's super easy to go to the gym during depressive episodes because I know that doing so will provide immediate relief. Furthermore I will generally start to sleep less and lose interest in my other hobbies, so there's pretty much nothing that competes with my time. Being physically active also doesn't require mental energy since the movements happen pretty much subconsciously so this isn't even a factor."
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Your logic seems like it applies too going to a doctor and asking for a pill as well. Like... when you are looking to see if a pill is effective against depression you'd say "does it work if you do it".
Nobody is saying it's a "cure" anyways.. it's a therapeutic. Cures "cure" something. If it's cured you don't have to keep doing it.
And your point is some people may be too depressed to take the therapeutic.. yes, this is true.
Your claims that doing so means you're already getting better, that's not true. You can be mildly depressed, but not so depressed you can't exercise, for years.
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"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation. \nDepression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be. \nGaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism. \nAs with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression.",
">\n\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\n1, Not what depression is or how it functions. I was diagnosed with depression and depression itself is very much a long-term problem, not a short-term state of mind. There were days I was happy, days I was sad, days I was manic, etc... The problem was the \"average\" mood/motivation/energy level to which always return. Which was pretty low. It's perfectly possible to work out (find the energy, find the motivation, etc...) on good days. And even continue doing it on bad days if you built up the routine.\n2, Not how everybody sees working out. To me, working out was very much the coping mechanism for my depression. You know how when you procrastinate you do everything but your homework? Well, that's how working out felt to me, it was the procrastination. It wasn't something I had to motivate myself to do, I was doing it gladly. It was everything else that was the problem for me. \n\nYou finding the willpower to start working out means you were already overcoming it.\n\nNope, wrong. You can have severe depression while living an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Or while having a happy marriage, or while going out with friends on most nights. None of these is indicative of CURING or OVERCOMING depression. That's the scary part about depression. You can feel like a low-energy wreck who wants to die during any of these lifestyles.",
">\n\nFirst of all, no one really says \"cures\" like an antibiotic cures and infection. That individuals report this is akin to them saying that great relationship cured it, or finding god, or focusing on job or school and so on. The narratives of what helps someone overcome depression are always simplified and should not be taken as truths that it will always work for everyone.\nCan depression prevent someone from pulling it together and getting exercise? Yes. But...does exercise change the chemistry of the body and mind? Yes, and in ways that improve mood. You seem to interpret others narratives of personal experience as if they are a prescription that is 100% foolproof and I don't think people are saying that. But, you swing the pendulum too far - exercise can improve mental state, period. Can depression prevent you from exercising? Sure. Must it? No, not for everyone.\nThe \"probably in a better place than you thought\" is akin to saying to someone \"hey...you're not REALLY depressed\", which is something you should generally avoid doing!",
">\n\nFor me working out isn't just a \"productive habit\" but it instead provides me with tangible mental benefits: My overall mood will improve, my anxious thoughts become less \"sticky\", I feel more relaxed, and I generally start thinking more positively. The effects of working out are very similar to the effects of my antidepressant (flouxetine) minus the improved sleep. Another big difference is the timing. Flouxetine took around 2-3 weeks before I felt something but the effect is pretty much permanent (as long as I take it I assume). Going to the gym on the other hand provides immediate relief but the effects decay over the next ~12h.\nAnd this brings me to my main point. For me it's super easy to go to the gym during depressive episodes because I know that doing so will provide immediate relief. Furthermore I will generally start to sleep less and lose interest in my other hobbies, so there's pretty much nothing that competes with my time. Being physically active also doesn't require mental energy since the movements happen pretty much subconsciously so this isn't even a factor.",
">\n\nHave you tried it?\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up and stick with it. When heavily in a rut it is hard to find such surplus willpower because so much of it is used to get through life.\n\nI totally agree with the idea that some people are just completely clueless about how debilitating mental illness can be, and people simply can't just \"power through it\". \nHowever, I don't think that that is the lowest point. \nThat is actually a point of equilibrium. \nFor me, I've not been motivated at all to do anything the past 10+ years. I was sleeping upwards of 20 hours a day. \nBut in a few rare events, my depression/anhedonia got SO BAD, that I just couldn't take it anymore. I HAD to get up and do something.\nThere were times I wouldn't clean my room for MONTHS. I had garbage piling up like mountains.\nBut when depression got so bad, I just couldn't even stay still. I couldn't sleep. I just kept pacing back and forth in my room, until eventually I just decided screw it, might as well clean it up cuz I can't go back to sleep or anything anyway.\nI also got back to swimming; once back in 2018 when the first wave of my depression hit, and again this year, when the 2nd wave hit;\nI feel SO much better after a swim or a cold shower. It's literally like night and day. All of my worries, my misery just completely disappears for a short while after those activities. It's like magic. \nOnce you're out of the actual 'lowest point', that's when you reach an equilibrium level of misery where you're still depressed enough to have no motivation, but it's not so bad that it actually motivates you to change your situation."
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"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation. \nDepression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be. \nGaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism. \nAs with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression.",
">\n\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\n1, Not what depression is or how it functions. I was diagnosed with depression and depression itself is very much a long-term problem, not a short-term state of mind. There were days I was happy, days I was sad, days I was manic, etc... The problem was the \"average\" mood/motivation/energy level to which always return. Which was pretty low. It's perfectly possible to work out (find the energy, find the motivation, etc...) on good days. And even continue doing it on bad days if you built up the routine.\n2, Not how everybody sees working out. To me, working out was very much the coping mechanism for my depression. You know how when you procrastinate you do everything but your homework? Well, that's how working out felt to me, it was the procrastination. It wasn't something I had to motivate myself to do, I was doing it gladly. It was everything else that was the problem for me. \n\nYou finding the willpower to start working out means you were already overcoming it.\n\nNope, wrong. You can have severe depression while living an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Or while having a happy marriage, or while going out with friends on most nights. None of these is indicative of CURING or OVERCOMING depression. That's the scary part about depression. You can feel like a low-energy wreck who wants to die during any of these lifestyles.",
">\n\nFirst of all, no one really says \"cures\" like an antibiotic cures and infection. That individuals report this is akin to them saying that great relationship cured it, or finding god, or focusing on job or school and so on. The narratives of what helps someone overcome depression are always simplified and should not be taken as truths that it will always work for everyone.\nCan depression prevent someone from pulling it together and getting exercise? Yes. But...does exercise change the chemistry of the body and mind? Yes, and in ways that improve mood. You seem to interpret others narratives of personal experience as if they are a prescription that is 100% foolproof and I don't think people are saying that. But, you swing the pendulum too far - exercise can improve mental state, period. Can depression prevent you from exercising? Sure. Must it? No, not for everyone.\nThe \"probably in a better place than you thought\" is akin to saying to someone \"hey...you're not REALLY depressed\", which is something you should generally avoid doing!",
">\n\nFor me working out isn't just a \"productive habit\" but it instead provides me with tangible mental benefits: My overall mood will improve, my anxious thoughts become less \"sticky\", I feel more relaxed, and I generally start thinking more positively. The effects of working out are very similar to the effects of my antidepressant (flouxetine) minus the improved sleep. Another big difference is the timing. Flouxetine took around 2-3 weeks before I felt something but the effect is pretty much permanent (as long as I take it I assume). Going to the gym on the other hand provides immediate relief but the effects decay over the next ~12h.\nAnd this brings me to my main point. For me it's super easy to go to the gym during depressive episodes because I know that doing so will provide immediate relief. Furthermore I will generally start to sleep less and lose interest in my other hobbies, so there's pretty much nothing that competes with my time. Being physically active also doesn't require mental energy since the movements happen pretty much subconsciously so this isn't even a factor.",
">\n\nHave you tried it?\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up and stick with it. When heavily in a rut it is hard to find such surplus willpower because so much of it is used to get through life.\n\nI totally agree with the idea that some people are just completely clueless about how debilitating mental illness can be, and people simply can't just \"power through it\". \nHowever, I don't think that that is the lowest point. \nThat is actually a point of equilibrium. \nFor me, I've not been motivated at all to do anything the past 10+ years. I was sleeping upwards of 20 hours a day. \nBut in a few rare events, my depression/anhedonia got SO BAD, that I just couldn't take it anymore. I HAD to get up and do something.\nThere were times I wouldn't clean my room for MONTHS. I had garbage piling up like mountains.\nBut when depression got so bad, I just couldn't even stay still. I couldn't sleep. I just kept pacing back and forth in my room, until eventually I just decided screw it, might as well clean it up cuz I can't go back to sleep or anything anyway.\nI also got back to swimming; once back in 2018 when the first wave of my depression hit, and again this year, when the 2nd wave hit;\nI feel SO much better after a swim or a cold shower. It's literally like night and day. All of my worries, my misery just completely disappears for a short while after those activities. It's like magic. \nOnce you're out of the actual 'lowest point', that's when you reach an equilibrium level of misery where you're still depressed enough to have no motivation, but it's not so bad that it actually motivates you to change your situation.",
">\n\nYour logic seems like it applies too going to a doctor and asking for a pill as well. Like... when you are looking to see if a pill is effective against depression you'd say \"does it work if you do it\".\nNobody is saying it's a \"cure\" anyways.. it's a therapeutic. Cures \"cure\" something. If it's cured you don't have to keep doing it.\nAnd your point is some people may be too depressed to take the therapeutic.. yes, this is true.\nYour claims that doing so means you're already getting better, that's not true. You can be mildly depressed, but not so depressed you can't exercise, for years.\nYour logic suggests that the only form of depression is severe, debilitating depression."
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"Your title and explanation of your view really are at odds with each other.\nFirst \n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nThis can be true,\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\nAnd this can so be true. \nYou can be depressed, and not be at your lowest point. And being at your lowest point might look very different from person to person. And just because you are better than your absolute lowest point, does not mean you are \"overcoming it\"\nSo you may be not at your worst, and still very depressed, and getting yourself out of your home and working out may help you to continue to get a better mental health.",
">\n\nMind and body are connected.\nWorking out releases endorphins which feel good.\nIt may not cure depression, but physical exercise can absolutely help alleviate some of the symptoms and take the edge off.\nAs someone who has lived with depression most of his adult life, I can promise you that getting the drive to work out was not already overcoming it.",
">\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did. \nWhen I'm depressed I have to fight with myself for hours to even go to pee. I'm definitely not in the mental state to lift some weights. I know everything that needs to be done, but it's like the commands my brain gives doesn't reach my muscles.",
">\n\n\nI don't think op was denying that at any point, they just said that if you can find the strength to workout you probably aren't doing so bad that you thought you did.\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.",
">\n\n\nBy that logic if you can find the strength to seek out any means of treatment for your depression, you probably aren't all that depressed in the first place, so nothing cures depression because if you can make the effort to seek out a cure you're not actually depressed.\n\nIn a way, this is kind of true. It's why depression is such a huge problem.\nWhen you're deep enough, the solution cannot come from one's self. One would need a really good support system where other people essentially force you to get help.",
">\n\nIt cures depression in all animals (including humans) tested in trials. I doubt rats are benefiting from 'willpower' when they workout.",
">\n\n\nI've read and heard multiple testimonies about how working out helped someone through depression or provided a gateway to other productive habits and ultimately a better life.\n\nYes their are many different levels from absolute crippling to mild life isn't worth living.\nWorking out can give you bursts of \"happiness\" which can allow you to preform more tasks which provides a mood benefit. This is generally a positive feedback loop.\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up \n\nEach person has their lowest and it's highly suggested to be an activity to try breaking your rut. Just a few times can have a massive effect on your mental health. It's like cleaning if your force your self into in once the after effects potential can carry you through.\n\nThat is not to say that a healthy habit like working out cannot have a positive effect on your well-being. It's just that chances are that if you manage to start the habit you were probably already in a better place than you thought. \n\nYep a new study agrees that 4 weeks can be equivalent to anti depressants. But you can have the habit ingrained and really it's just the will power to change and you'll exercise so it's a lot lesser of a step.\nPeople react to things differently and pushing them to a positive activity is all that's needed to get out of that rut.",
">\n\nThe problem is, we can't really know if someone is truly just so depressed that they can't muster the willpower to get out of bed or whatever, or whether it's at least partially just ordinary laziness. I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with depression. Do you need to muster willpower in order to start to overcome depression? What does it even mean to create willpower when previously there was none? How is this achieved? If one doesn't have the willpower to do anything, where does the willpower come from when they are finally able to start getting better? It just magically appears with no cause?\nIt seems to me that getting over depression is just a matter of getting off your ass. And I think everyone can do that (barring physically disabled people obviously). To say \"I'm too depressed\" is just a copout. I get that mental illness can be weird, contradictory, and nebulous, but at the end of the day it really is just a matter of thinking in such a way, reaching some particular line of reasoning in your own mind, which sparks the motivation to finally get off your ass and create meaning in your life.",
">\n\nI used to always think I'm just extremely lazy; I was literally sleeping 20 hours a day for many years. \nI now realized how deceiving the word \"laziness\" is. Almost no one is truly \"lazy\". Even if people are \"lazy\", it's only at a very occasional intervals where they are too tired.\nThe reason people don't do things have a lot more to do with procrastination, not laziness.\nThe difference, is that laziness is about conserving energy; i.e you would choose the option that expends the least amount of energy on your body.\nHumans are not designed to want that; we get impatient and bored, and we shake and move around for no reason at all just to cure some of that boredom/impatience all the time. So we're not lazy.\nThere are just some really bad cognitive beliefs that have been drilled into us making us avoid doing things and want to push it back.",
">\n\nWillpower has nothing to do with depression.",
">\n\nwillpower is a nebulous thing, peer pressure isn't willpower but can be just as effective",
">\n\nI think that you are very much on to something here. Depression is just lots of sadness its an absence of motivation. \nI think that motivation works in a counter intuitive way. You'd think that the more you push yourself to do stuff, the more you use up your motivation. But at least in my own experience I find the opposite to be true. \nIf i sit around on the couch and veg out, it does not cause my reserves of motivation to refill. rather it makes me feel more lazy. if it do it for too long it makes me feel bad about myself and saps my motivation to do anything else. Depression is a spiral and if you start sinking it makes it more likely that you will continue sinking.\nif I get up, get moving and do something productive, it doesn't deplete my motivation. Rather it makes me feel good about myself. I feel a bit of pride, a hit of dopamine and that makes me want to work even harder.\nWith a depressed person, i think your right in that if they start a great exercise routine it probably means they are already well on their way to recovery. and if they are not recovering they cannot start an exercise routine.\nbut if you are not able to start hat exercise routine, its not hopeless. Rather then a whole routine go for a walk, do 1 pushup, or touch your toes 3 times. If the goal is to ambitious you set a smaller goal. A great goal is one that you can achieve but not too easily. A bad goal is too hard or too easy.\nWorking out might not be the first step, the first step might just be googling \"fun workouts\" or \"at home workouts\" or \"easy work outs\". But its also not the last step. it is part of the process.",
">\n\nWhat exactly is your argument? I think that you’re saying it is unlikely that you will start working out while severely depressed, so the supposed life changing effects of the exercise are more the fact that you weren’t at your lowest point anyways. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I’ll go on that interpretation. \nDepression has peaks and troughs, like any other illness, and most people with depression have good and bad days. There isn’t really an identifiable “lowest point,” because you never know what your lowest point will be. \nGaining the willpower to start exercising can happen on a “peak” day, where you feel up to pushing yourself. Yeah, in a week or a month you might sink back to a trough, but maybe it’ll be an easier trough because you’ve found a new, healthy coping mechanism. \nAs with all treatments or medicines or therapies or whatever we want to label it as, you need to want to do them. By your logic, all treatment is ineffective because you needed the willpower to seek it out, so you must have already been overcoming your depression.",
">\n\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest.\n\n1, Not what depression is or how it functions. I was diagnosed with depression and depression itself is very much a long-term problem, not a short-term state of mind. There were days I was happy, days I was sad, days I was manic, etc... The problem was the \"average\" mood/motivation/energy level to which always return. Which was pretty low. It's perfectly possible to work out (find the energy, find the motivation, etc...) on good days. And even continue doing it on bad days if you built up the routine.\n2, Not how everybody sees working out. To me, working out was very much the coping mechanism for my depression. You know how when you procrastinate you do everything but your homework? Well, that's how working out felt to me, it was the procrastination. It wasn't something I had to motivate myself to do, I was doing it gladly. It was everything else that was the problem for me. \n\nYou finding the willpower to start working out means you were already overcoming it.\n\nNope, wrong. You can have severe depression while living an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Or while having a happy marriage, or while going out with friends on most nights. None of these is indicative of CURING or OVERCOMING depression. That's the scary part about depression. You can feel like a low-energy wreck who wants to die during any of these lifestyles.",
">\n\nFirst of all, no one really says \"cures\" like an antibiotic cures and infection. That individuals report this is akin to them saying that great relationship cured it, or finding god, or focusing on job or school and so on. The narratives of what helps someone overcome depression are always simplified and should not be taken as truths that it will always work for everyone.\nCan depression prevent someone from pulling it together and getting exercise? Yes. But...does exercise change the chemistry of the body and mind? Yes, and in ways that improve mood. You seem to interpret others narratives of personal experience as if they are a prescription that is 100% foolproof and I don't think people are saying that. But, you swing the pendulum too far - exercise can improve mental state, period. Can depression prevent you from exercising? Sure. Must it? No, not for everyone.\nThe \"probably in a better place than you thought\" is akin to saying to someone \"hey...you're not REALLY depressed\", which is something you should generally avoid doing!",
">\n\nFor me working out isn't just a \"productive habit\" but it instead provides me with tangible mental benefits: My overall mood will improve, my anxious thoughts become less \"sticky\", I feel more relaxed, and I generally start thinking more positively. The effects of working out are very similar to the effects of my antidepressant (flouxetine) minus the improved sleep. Another big difference is the timing. Flouxetine took around 2-3 weeks before I felt something but the effect is pretty much permanent (as long as I take it I assume). Going to the gym on the other hand provides immediate relief but the effects decay over the next ~12h.\nAnd this brings me to my main point. For me it's super easy to go to the gym during depressive episodes because I know that doing so will provide immediate relief. Furthermore I will generally start to sleep less and lose interest in my other hobbies, so there's pretty much nothing that competes with my time. Being physically active also doesn't require mental energy since the movements happen pretty much subconsciously so this isn't even a factor.",
">\n\nHave you tried it?\n\nHowever, I propose that you will not start working out when you are at your lowest. Instead you'll do so once you have found enough surplus willpower to pick it up and stick with it. When heavily in a rut it is hard to find such surplus willpower because so much of it is used to get through life.\n\nI totally agree with the idea that some people are just completely clueless about how debilitating mental illness can be, and people simply can't just \"power through it\". \nHowever, I don't think that that is the lowest point. \nThat is actually a point of equilibrium. \nFor me, I've not been motivated at all to do anything the past 10+ years. I was sleeping upwards of 20 hours a day. \nBut in a few rare events, my depression/anhedonia got SO BAD, that I just couldn't take it anymore. I HAD to get up and do something.\nThere were times I wouldn't clean my room for MONTHS. I had garbage piling up like mountains.\nBut when depression got so bad, I just couldn't even stay still. I couldn't sleep. I just kept pacing back and forth in my room, until eventually I just decided screw it, might as well clean it up cuz I can't go back to sleep or anything anyway.\nI also got back to swimming; once back in 2018 when the first wave of my depression hit, and again this year, when the 2nd wave hit;\nI feel SO much better after a swim or a cold shower. It's literally like night and day. All of my worries, my misery just completely disappears for a short while after those activities. It's like magic. \nOnce you're out of the actual 'lowest point', that's when you reach an equilibrium level of misery where you're still depressed enough to have no motivation, but it's not so bad that it actually motivates you to change your situation.",
">\n\nYour logic seems like it applies too going to a doctor and asking for a pill as well. Like... when you are looking to see if a pill is effective against depression you'd say \"does it work if you do it\".\nNobody is saying it's a \"cure\" anyways.. it's a therapeutic. Cures \"cure\" something. If it's cured you don't have to keep doing it.\nAnd your point is some people may be too depressed to take the therapeutic.. yes, this is true.\nYour claims that doing so means you're already getting better, that's not true. You can be mildly depressed, but not so depressed you can't exercise, for years.\nYour logic suggests that the only form of depression is severe, debilitating depression.",
">\n\nCorrect."
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">\n\nA doughnut hole in the doughnut's hole. But we must look a little closer. And when we do, we see that the doughnut hole has a hole in its center - it is not a doughnut hole at all but a smaller doughnut with its own hole, and our doughnut is not whole at all!\n\nBenoit Blanc, Knives out (2019)"
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">\n\nA doughnut hole in the doughnut's hole. But we must look a little closer. And when we do, we see that the doughnut hole has a hole in its center - it is not a doughnut hole at all but a smaller doughnut with its own hole, and our doughnut is not whole at all!\n\nBenoit Blanc, Knives out (2019)",
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Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.
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It is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.
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Oh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good. | [
"Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.",
">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee"
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As someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen | [
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">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good."
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I like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor.
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"Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.",
">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen"
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There has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you "beach" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.
So let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.
I imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight. | [
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">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen",
">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators."
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If the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary. | [
"Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.",
">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen",
">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.",
">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight."
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"Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.",
">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen",
">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.",
">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.",
">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary."
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The FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed. | [
"Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.",
">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen",
">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.",
">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.",
">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.",
">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?"
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">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen",
">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.",
">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.",
">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.",
">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?",
">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed."
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But but... this is Murica!! | [
"Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.",
">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen",
">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.",
">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.",
">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.",
">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?",
">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed.",
">\n\nIf your economic model depends on exploiting labor, it needs to be overhauled."
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For anybody worried about industrial espionage (hiring a competitor's workers so you can find out what cool shit they do behind the scenes), NDAs can still cover that, so that Apple employee can go work for Microsoft and use their skills, but can't reveal Apple's secrets to Microsoft. | [
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">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable",
">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee",
">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.",
">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen",
">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.",
">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.",
">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.",
">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?",
">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed.",
">\n\nIf your economic model depends on exploiting labor, it needs to be overhauled.",
">\n\nBut but... this is Murica!!"
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