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> I’d be ok with a non-compete clause if it was part of an actual employment contract where the worker received something on their side. In an “at will” employment situation they shouldn’t exist.
[ "Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.", ">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable", ">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee", ">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.", ">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen", ">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.", ">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.", ">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.", ">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?", ">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed.", ">\n\nIf your economic model depends on exploiting labor, it needs to be overhauled.", ">\n\nBut but... this is Murica!!", ">\n\nFor anybody worried about industrial espionage (hiring a competitor's workers so you can find out what cool shit they do behind the scenes), NDAs can still cover that, so that Apple employee can go work for Microsoft and use their skills, but can't reveal Apple's secrets to Microsoft." ]
> Seems reasonable, especially considering it is grossly abused.
[ "Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.", ">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable", ">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee", ">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.", ">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen", ">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.", ">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.", ">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.", ">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?", ">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed.", ">\n\nIf your economic model depends on exploiting labor, it needs to be overhauled.", ">\n\nBut but... this is Murica!!", ">\n\nFor anybody worried about industrial espionage (hiring a competitor's workers so you can find out what cool shit they do behind the scenes), NDAs can still cover that, so that Apple employee can go work for Microsoft and use their skills, but can't reveal Apple's secrets to Microsoft.", ">\n\nI’d be ok with a non-compete clause if it was part of an actual employment contract where the worker received something on their side. In an “at will” employment situation they shouldn’t exist." ]
> As a consultant that works for several different companies, DO IT!
[ "Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.", ">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable", ">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee", ">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.", ">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen", ">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.", ">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.", ">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.", ">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?", ">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed.", ">\n\nIf your economic model depends on exploiting labor, it needs to be overhauled.", ">\n\nBut but... this is Murica!!", ">\n\nFor anybody worried about industrial espionage (hiring a competitor's workers so you can find out what cool shit they do behind the scenes), NDAs can still cover that, so that Apple employee can go work for Microsoft and use their skills, but can't reveal Apple's secrets to Microsoft.", ">\n\nI’d be ok with a non-compete clause if it was part of an actual employment contract where the worker received something on their side. In an “at will” employment situation they shouldn’t exist.", ">\n\nSeems reasonable, especially considering it is grossly abused." ]
> Nothing says trust like a no competition clause.
[ "Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.", ">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable", ">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee", ">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.", ">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen", ">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.", ">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.", ">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.", ">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?", ">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed.", ">\n\nIf your economic model depends on exploiting labor, it needs to be overhauled.", ">\n\nBut but... this is Murica!!", ">\n\nFor anybody worried about industrial espionage (hiring a competitor's workers so you can find out what cool shit they do behind the scenes), NDAs can still cover that, so that Apple employee can go work for Microsoft and use their skills, but can't reveal Apple's secrets to Microsoft.", ">\n\nI’d be ok with a non-compete clause if it was part of an actual employment contract where the worker received something on their side. In an “at will” employment situation they shouldn’t exist.", ">\n\nSeems reasonable, especially considering it is grossly abused.", ">\n\nAs a consultant that works for several different companies, DO IT!" ]
>
[ "Noncompetes are already illegal/unenforceable in a few states and have exemptions for specified professions in many other states. They serve no purpose other than to exploit labor.\nIt's about time these are eliminated on a federal level.", ">\n\nThe only place it’s appropriate is when someone is working on developing a proprietary product. Trying to prevent someone, who has no access to actual proprietary knowledge (not just operational work flow) from working in the same field is laughable", ">\n\nIt is, but that doesn’t stop companies from doing it all the time, even when they know it’s likely unenforceable. They are assuming that the fear of enforcement by the employer will make it de facto binding.\nEDIT: Employer, not employee", ">\n\nOh, you’re absolutely right. That’s why this legislation is good.", ">\n\nAs someone stuck in non compete hell. This would be life changing. For the love of god let this happen", ">\n\nI like the general idea as I think there are too many restrictions on American workers and the free flow of labor. \nCurtailing state licensing rules would also be something I'd like to see tackled by regulators.", ">\n\nThere has been a long running fix to noncompetes proposed based off the old British officer system. That being if your between wars but want to keep an officer around you can call back up, you \"beach\" him and put him on half pay so he can be called back at a moment notice but is still under the rules as they are still on the payroll.\nSo let's set noncompetitive agreements to the same clause. If I'm not allowed to work in X field for Y years you have to pay me 50% of my salary for the same time period.\nI imagine 95% of noncompet agreements would vanish overnight.", ">\n\nIf the control your employment, then they owe you 100% of your salary.", ">\n\nCan we ban forced arbitration clauses while we're at it?", ">\n\nThe FTC is moving on this and other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if that at least gets curtailed.", ">\n\nIf your economic model depends on exploiting labor, it needs to be overhauled.", ">\n\nBut but... this is Murica!!", ">\n\nFor anybody worried about industrial espionage (hiring a competitor's workers so you can find out what cool shit they do behind the scenes), NDAs can still cover that, so that Apple employee can go work for Microsoft and use their skills, but can't reveal Apple's secrets to Microsoft.", ">\n\nI’d be ok with a non-compete clause if it was part of an actual employment contract where the worker received something on their side. In an “at will” employment situation they shouldn’t exist.", ">\n\nSeems reasonable, especially considering it is grossly abused.", ">\n\nAs a consultant that works for several different companies, DO IT!", ">\n\nNothing says trust like a no competition clause." ]
iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. always stay in touch, you can find crimes!
[]
> Good. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!" ]
> He's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in. He helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties." ]
> That's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that" ]
> Let's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)" ]
> Billions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet." ]
> I really hope so.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's." ]
> “There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said. And this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so." ]
> Or the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er." ]
> You seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means." ]
> Didn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate" ]
> Which prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5" ]
> He got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?" ]
> Aunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”" ]
> They should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages..." ]
> claps hands "Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella."
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater." ]
> He rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"" ]
> My ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays" ]
> Shorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA." ]
> Marshall Applewhite vibes.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges." ]
> 25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes." ]
> Not sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah....." ]
> 25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives. Even at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?" ]
> The “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…” So tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money? Besides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed" ]
> Nope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious." ]
> Seems like a really light sentence.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting." ]
> I'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence." ]
> Hopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay." ]
> honestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college "consultants" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early." ]
> This wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority." ]
> Yeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so." ]
> Good... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new "legacy" if you will.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections" ]
> I got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly. He'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will." ]
> If school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at." ]
> i feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools" ]
> I love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him" ]
> They finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it." ]
> Guys doing life for shoplifting 3 times
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?" ]
> Worse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times" ]
> That’s it that’s all shows our system here in America is totally broken
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times", ">\n\nWorse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?" ]
> Gangster Capitalism season 1 covered this story really well. If you're into podcasts, I recommend you check it out
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times", ">\n\nWorse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?", ">\n\nThat’s it that’s all shows our system here in America is totally broken" ]
> 3.5 years………………………………………………………………………………………..lame.
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times", ">\n\nWorse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?", ">\n\nThat’s it that’s all shows our system here in America is totally broken", ">\n\nGangster Capitalism season 1 covered this story really well. If you're into podcasts, I recommend you check it out" ]
> I’m sure Lori and felicity are cackling with glee after reading this news. He snitched on them like a pro
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times", ">\n\nWorse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?", ">\n\nThat’s it that’s all shows our system here in America is totally broken", ">\n\nGangster Capitalism season 1 covered this story really well. If you're into podcasts, I recommend you check it out", ">\n\n3.5 years………………………………………………………………………………………..lame." ]
> how did he go about this? "let me have the failed applicants Jenny" then rings them up and says your daughter failed... unless....
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times", ">\n\nWorse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?", ">\n\nThat’s it that’s all shows our system here in America is totally broken", ">\n\nGangster Capitalism season 1 covered this story really well. If you're into podcasts, I recommend you check it out", ">\n\n3.5 years………………………………………………………………………………………..lame.", ">\n\nI’m sure Lori and felicity are cackling with glee after reading this news. He snitched on them like a pro" ]
> He looks like a Vulcan
[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times", ">\n\nWorse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?", ">\n\nThat’s it that’s all shows our system here in America is totally broken", ">\n\nGangster Capitalism season 1 covered this story really well. If you're into podcasts, I recommend you check it out", ">\n\n3.5 years………………………………………………………………………………………..lame.", ">\n\nI’m sure Lori and felicity are cackling with glee after reading this news. He snitched on them like a pro", ">\n\nhow did he go about this? \n\"let me have the failed applicants Jenny\"\nthen rings them up and says your daughter failed... unless...." ]
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[ "iirc the whole thing started when some high school teacher noticed one of his students was on college sports team roster but had not been an athlete in high school. \nalways stay in touch, you can find crimes!", ">\n\nGood. Also glad he had to pay a bunch in restitution. I can't imagine being a student that worked their ass off to get into a school only to have your spot stolen by Aunt Becky's daughter that admittedly only wants to be there for the parties.", ">\n\nHe's going to jail because rich families were paying bribes to him, instead of the more traditional forms of bribery like buying a plaque with your name on it for a new building or bench on campus. This doesn't help regular people get into schools, it just makes it more expensive for rich people to buy their way in.\nHe helped rich people fuck over even richer people, and the institutions can't have that", ">\n\nThat's a bingo. Why did Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried get in so much trouble? Same reason, they scammed dumbass rich people and exposed how dumb they are (though such exposure was not their goal)", ">\n\nLet's hope SBF gets in a lot of trouble. He hasn't been find guilty of anything yet.", ">\n\nBillions of Dollars gone, yeah he's getting some charges. You don't fuck over the real rich people with a B instead of the rich people with M's.", ">\n\nI really hope so.", ">\n\n\n“There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement [aka buy the school something nice], which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in,” Singer said.\n\nAnd this is where ya fucked up. You don't steal from the rich-er.", ">\n\nOr the less cheap rich, anyway. Aunt Becky’s husband Mossimo was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had the means.", ">\n\nYou seen the daughter's videos she posted? They knew she was only worth the discount rate", ">\n\nDidn't he also roll on EVERYBODY. Judging by how many others went down for this, I'm pleased with 3.5", ">\n\nWhich prison did he get into. Was it his reach prison, a likely prison, or one of his safety prisons? or did he go ED?", ">\n\nHe got in ED by claiming he played the “flute”", ">\n\nAunt Becky, aka, Lori Loughlin only got two months??? Oh that smug actress... hope her hell is lifetime channel contract for selling reverse mortgages...", ">\n\nThey should have at least sentenced her to 12 months of community theater.", ">\n\nclaps hands \"Welp that's all there is to see here, folks. That's right, we looked real hard and found no other instances of the wealthy buying access to critical institutions. No siree we've looked far and wide and it was just Aunt Becky and this Singer fella.\"", ">\n\nHe rolled on his clients. The real issue is that this is the 'side door'. The backdoor is still fucking there and wide open for anyone who pays", ">\n\nMy ex was in a federal prison for 6 years. It was like a junior college was built out of an old VA.", ">\n\nShorter than most students’ time at one of those colleges.", ">\n\nMarshall Applewhite vibes.", ">\n\n25 million for 3.5 years possible? Yeah.....", ">\n\nNot sure where you got your information from, but he didn’t get $25m, and in fact owes $10m in restitution. So… yeah?", ">\n\n25 was what was paid to him. He had bribes and other expensives.\nEven at 10 million for 3.5 is a better deal than most people got with a bag of weed", ">\n\nThe “source” for this alleges he “raked in more than $25 million from his clients and paid bribes totaling more than $7 million…”\nSo tell me, was it $25miion, $7 million, or the alleged $15 million he spent of his clients money?\nBesides these “alleged” stories, do you have any proof, or are you just parroting what the news has to say. I’m genuinely curious.", ">\n\nNope the 25 was the number I remembered from the reporting.", ">\n\nSeems like a really light sentence.", ">\n\nI'm not disagreeing, but imagine actually spending 3.5 years in prison. It's not going to feel like a quick stay.", ">\n\nHopefully he does, but it would be wise to keep tabs in case he tries another scheme to get out early.", ">\n\nhonestly he should've gotten a lot longer considering he's the tip of the iceberg. These college \"consultants\" have long used their connections to get kids of clients admitted via all kinds of dubious methods. What needs to happen is there should be some kind of oversight admission committee to vet all potential athletic recruits, instead of giving coaches carte blanche authority.", ">\n\nThis wouldn't be a thing if colleges would just... allow people to learn at them without charging a fortune to do so.", ">\n\nYeah but it's getting them better prepared for the real world, where it doesn't matter what you know. It's all about connections", ">\n\nGood... now I'm glad nothing like this will happen again. A new \"legacy\" if you will.", ">\n\nI got more time than that for selling LSD and Molly.\nHe'll end up at a Min or Camp security, very laid back, very relaxed, it's literally like a college campus depending on what facility you end up at.", ">\n\nIf school was free this would not be an issue. We all fight for scraps because it’s a big money maker for the schools", ">\n\ni feel he should get more time. qualified, hardworking students lost out because of him", ">\n\nI love how people act surprised at this. lol. Of course this was happening. It's not gonna stop happening. The rich get away with everything. There will be a slap on the wrist and then they'll be right back at it.", ">\n\nThey finally locking up administrators for charging $50,000/yr for degrees that can't pay off huge amounts of student loans?", ">\n\nGuys doing life for shoplifting 3 times", ">\n\nWorse; didn't a woman who applied for her kid to go to a school that unbeknownst turned out to have been rezoned by one street off from her, get sentenced to more than that?", ">\n\nThat’s it that’s all shows our system here in America is totally broken", ">\n\nGangster Capitalism season 1 covered this story really well. If you're into podcasts, I recommend you check it out", ">\n\n3.5 years………………………………………………………………………………………..lame.", ">\n\nI’m sure Lori and felicity are cackling with glee after reading this news. He snitched on them like a pro", ">\n\nhow did he go about this? \n\"let me have the failed applicants Jenny\"\nthen rings them up and says your daughter failed... unless....", ">\n\nHe looks like a Vulcan" ]
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> So true!.. there is a point in which you cant get money to get rid of it (where it will cost you)
[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans." ]
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[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSo true!.. there is a point in which you cant get money to get rid of it (where it will cost you)" ]
Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? Is it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?
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> He was in prison. He got out. His sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?" ]
> It sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward." ]
> You have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection. In Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?" ]
> I mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released." ]
> I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally). That's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity. The big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally)." ]
> The big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released. You know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really "the good guys" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released." ]
> that's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist)." ]
> Is this going to postpone his comedy tour?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat" ]
> This is the comedy tour.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?" ]
> And it kills.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour." ]
> Weren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills." ]
> I'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?" ]
> A defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest" ]
> Look, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one." ]
> They don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should." ]
> I hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free." ]
> And to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life" ]
> And that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour." ]
> I thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? I mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!" ]
> It's not a criminal law. It's civil law. And this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations." ]
> That wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure." ]
> ig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this." ]
> More material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol." ]
> Wow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?" ]
> This explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon" ]
> ::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills." ]
> Won't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::" ]
> The Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?" ]
> He'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise." ]
> My reaction to your comment: "What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me."
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days." ]
> I hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"" ]
> Sam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein." ]
> Sooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing." ]
> But I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?" ]
> Still waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s" ]
> Please keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement." ]
> I like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick." ]
> Should have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims." ]
> Good. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill." ]
> Wow! Harsh.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least." ]
> Time to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh." ]
> Why he always look like he’s farting?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O" ]
> Because he is farting.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?" ]
> So I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting." ]
> So he's subject to a new law that wasn't extant when he committed his crimes. This is interesting.
[ "Maybe i'm not paying close enough attention, but, how is Cosby not doing time already? \nIs it a 'prison is for poor people' kind of thing?", ">\n\nHe was in prison. He got out.\nHis sentence was overturned based off of a prior agreement in another civil suit where he was promised that his testimony couldn't be used in criminal proceedings. For other alleged incidents, the statue of limitations has passed and/or victims aren't coming forward.", ">\n\nIt sounds utterly against public policy for civil testimony to be contracted out of criminal proceedings. Is there a strong basis for this?", ">\n\nYou have a constitutional right against self incrimination. That means the state can't force you to testify if doing so would incriminate yourself. To get around this prosecutors will offer someone immunity; if you can't be charged with the crime your testimony can't be incriminating, therefore stripping you of your fifth amendment protection.\nIn Cosby's case the prosecutor gave him criminal immunity so they could force him to testify against himself, making it possible for his victim to win her civil case against him. They later tried to go back and prosecute him criminally anyways, and the courts overturned that because he had been granted immunity, which is why he was released.", ">\n\nI mention below that the prosecutors have to buy into this. The situation you describe makes logical sense, thanks. I'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).", ">\n\n\nI'm just surprised a prosecutor would give that up for the benefit of a civil case (unless they knew they didn't have enough to go after him criminally).\n\nThat's exactly what happened. They thought they didn't have enough to win the criminal case, but knew that the confession would help the victim in the civil case. They decided helping the victim recover in the civil case was sufficient so they granted immunity.\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.", ">\n\n\nThe big kerfluffle here is that later, a different prosecutor, argued that Cosby hadn't actually been granted immunity (there is a distinct lack of paperwork confirming that immunity) and had simply confessed. This didn't hold up in higher courts which is why he was later released.\n\nYou know what, at some point you have to decide whether you are really \"the good guys\" or not. Dangling immunity and then trying to snatch it away on a technicality is arguably the more dangerous evil to society (yes, even than an abject, abominable rapist).", ">\n\nthat's why the prosecutor who did this should punch themself in the throat", ">\n\nIs this going to postpone his comedy tour?", ">\n\nThis is the comedy tour.", ">\n\nAnd it kills.", ">\n\nWeren’t his lawyers saying he was too blind and decrepit to serve in prison and now he’s miraculously recovered and getting ready to do a comedy tour?", ">\n\nI'm starting to think that lawyers aren't all that honest", ">\n\nA defense attorney that doesn't try every feasible avenue of defense would be a dishonest one.", ">\n\nLook, I agree that it's a defense attorney's job to try every feasible angle to defend your client, but that doesn't make whatever flailing attempt you make to save a disaster of a human being an act of honesty by default. You can absolutely do your job as a defense attorney and be dishonest, in fact you probably should.", ">\n\nThey don’t pay you the big bucks to not try every Avenue they can to get you free.", ">\n\nI hope that serial rapist’s victims destroy him. I hope he gets no rest and is rendered pennyless for the rest of his miserable shitty life", ">\n\nAnd to think this stupid fuck is trying to go back on tour.", ">\n\nAnd that there are people out there that will still pay to see him after all this shit!", ">\n\nI thought ex post de facto laws were unconstitutional... So how are they able to sue for past events when they previously couldn't? \nI mean, morally, he should be in a cell, but ethically, laws are laws, and he's out due to incompetency and outlasting the statue of limitations.", ">\n\nIt's not a criminal law. It's civil law.\nAnd this happens all the time in civil cases. A California family won back some land from Los Angeles. This was decades after the originating incident took place and by people who weren't the original parties. New York and California just passed laws providing for a framework for the lawsuits to take place in the cases of Cosby and Steven Tyler. Now, the statute of limitations likely passed for the victims in these cases for the criminal incident, to be sure.", ">\n\nThat wasn't a civil case. It's bizarre you even bring it up in comparison to this.", ">\n\nig he's using a more broad term of civil for civil cases, basically anything non-criminal that is based in legal resolutions. but yeah, seems like a random one to use as an example lol.", ">\n\nMore material for his new tour I guess. Thought this guy was near dead, but magically “got better” once he gains freedom. Weird eh?", ">\n\nWow I didn’t expect his comedy tour to start so soon", ">\n\nThis explains the plans for a comedy tour. Legal bills.", ">\n\n::Cosby-esque delicious jello face::", ">\n\nWon't he just move to Florida to evade any judgment against him like OJ did?", ">\n\nThe Cosby debacle was immensely heartbreaking to be honest, I grew up with Cosby. This was a harsh lesson that no matter how saintly a man appears never idolize them, for they may in fact be devils in disguise.", ">\n\nHe'll never see those lawsuits, if only because he's mostly blind these days.", ">\n\nMy reaction to your comment: \"What! Of course he will you'd hav....oh you sonofabitch, you got me.\"", ">\n\nI hear he and OJ are going on tour for a comedy act... with special guest Ye, Kevin Spacey and via zoom, Harvey Weinstein.", ">\n\nSam Bankman Fried in charge of ticketing.", ">\n\nSooo... upcoming comedy tour cancelled?", ">\n\nBut I was looking forward to his comedy tour /s", ">\n\nStill waiting for his “I’m running as a conservative” announcement.", ">\n\nPlease keep this asshole tied up in courts. The thought of him actually going on tour makes me fucking sick.", ">\n\nI like the idea of him going on tour, as long as every penny he makes goes to his victims.", ">\n\nShould have kept your pudding pop in your pants, Bill.", ">\n\nGood. Impoverish that rapist. Him dying in prison would be better, but this would be something at least.", ">\n\nWow! Harsh.", ">\n\nTime to go back to J- A - I- L for J - E - L - L - O", ">\n\nWhy he always look like he’s farting?", ">\n\nBecause he is farting.", ">\n\nSo I'm guessing he is postponing his comedy comeback?" ]