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> The fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go." ]
> Porter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag." ]
> Ages ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old." ]
> I watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best." ]
> Right? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit" ]
> Her biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up." ]
> Her biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. This is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. “They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed. Do you actually think this?
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed." ]
> I think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?" ]
> Do you recognize the distinction between the following? Non college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% vs. Non college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better The first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. The second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. That is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not." ]
> Look, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to "build a coalition" or "win converts" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off." ]
> The Senate should not be a retirement community
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed." ]
> Porter is a remarkable legislator.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community" ]
> And, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator." ]
> And there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended." ]
> "Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds."
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands" ]
> Unbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"" ]
> There's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire." ]
> Wrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again." ]
> That doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024." ]
> I feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again." ]
> I wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for "I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office" so instead they have to be fundraising for "reelection."
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws." ]
> So they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"" ]
> My grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?" ]
> That story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah." ]
> This is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles." ]
> Lol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!" ]
> Whoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas." ]
> 2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!" ]
> Sounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back." ]
> Feinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms. Frankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators." ]
> At 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo." ]
> Actually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out" ]
> Feinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91." ]
> Thanks, Dan White.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation." ]
> I’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White." ]
> Porter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings." ]
> Feinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu)." ]
> Newsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win. I will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP." ]
> good. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate." ]
> Ugh. Feinstein needs to go.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit." ]
> The only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go." ]
> A couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House. There are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire. Having said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President." ]
> James Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House. So pretty damn rare.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over." ]
> And he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare." ]
> He wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win" ]
> I have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday." ]
> The last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily. They may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well. Feinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less." ]
> Dianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election." ]
> Who doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media." ]
> Feinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed." ]
> We need more people like Porter representing us
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her" ]
> Y’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. It’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us" ]
> I mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office." ]
> I loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?" ]
> But would you let her drive an entire country?
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no." ]
> Feinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?" ]
> I was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from "grown-ass man" to "old fuck" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way." ]
> Nice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place." ]
> Please anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well." ]
> It's not a bid to "oust" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio" ]
> Hippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring." ]
> I’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned." ]
> That’s way too old to be governing.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything" ]
> She's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing." ]
> Makes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire..." ]
> I read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law." ]
> Someone please wake up Feinstein and let her know
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood." ]
> I don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? I like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know" ]
> Um… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy." ]
> That's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess." ]
> Imagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!" ]
> Effectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s." ]
> These are the next steps towards a Porter presidency She'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late." ]
> We, as a nation, need Katie Porter.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts" ]
> No one over the age of 75 should be in office, period. It’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation. Edit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter." ]
> I get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things. We should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet." ]
> Edge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance..." ]
> Edge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person. So instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person." ]
> We already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?" ]
> We already generalize with age minimums. 2 bad things dont make a right thing.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful." ]
> I don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing." ]
> Arbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office." ]
> Oh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly. Edit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else." ]
> I love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t." ]
> we need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic." ]
> Should ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol." ]
> Millennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…" ]
> Feinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too." ]
> Can we stop with these "Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke" ]
> Couldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself." ]
> At some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat" ]
> Dems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter." ]
> I'm so excited for her.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire." ]
> She is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.", ">\n\nI'm so excited for her." ]
> I have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.", ">\n\nI'm so excited for her.", ">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?" ]
> I don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.", ">\n\nI'm so excited for her.", ">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?", ">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid." ]
> She's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.", ">\n\nI'm so excited for her.", ">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?", ">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.", ">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress." ]
> Katie Porter has 2 Problems: Barbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. Feinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes. She needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.", ">\n\nI'm so excited for her.", ">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?", ">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.", ">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.", ">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100." ]
> So fucking old just retire already holy shit…
[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.", ">\n\nI'm so excited for her.", ">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?", ">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.", ">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.", ">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.", ">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support." ]
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[ "Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!", ">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.", ">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".", ">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.", ">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.", ">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.", ">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.", ">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.", ">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5", ">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.", ">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America", ">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.", ">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.", ">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?", ">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.", ">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through", ">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.", ">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.", ">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.", ">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.", ">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit", ">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.", ">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.", ">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?", ">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.", ">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.", ">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.", ">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community", ">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.", ">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.", ">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands", ">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"", ">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.", ">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.", ">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.", ">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.", ">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.", ">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"", ">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?", ">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.", ">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.", ">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!", ">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.", ">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!", ">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.", ">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.", ">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.", ">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out", ">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.", ">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.", ">\n\nThanks, Dan White.", ">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.", ">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).", ">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.", ">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.", ">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.", ">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.", ">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.", ">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.", ">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.", ">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win", ">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.", ">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.", ">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.", ">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.", ">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.", ">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her", ">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us", ">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.", ">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?", ">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.", ">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.", ">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.", ">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.", ">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio", ">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.", ">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.", ">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything", ">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.", ">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...", ">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.", ">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.", ">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know", ">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.", ">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.", ">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!", ">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.", ">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.", ">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts", ">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.", ">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.", ">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...", ">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.", ">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?", ">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.", ">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.", ">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.", ">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.", ">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.", ">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.", ">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.", ">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…", ">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.", ">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke", ">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.", ">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat", ">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.", ">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.", ">\n\nI'm so excited for her.", ">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?", ">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.", ">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.", ">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.", ">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.", ">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…" ]